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Speaker 2: into us. This is our scar tissue episode, Daniel. This show,

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Speaker 2: So scar tissue and I want to paint a picture

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Speaker 2: Yes, the earthquake weather. Yeah, as you look through your

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Speaker 1: Possibly the godfather of let down look ahead right, Oh,

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Speaker 2: It was a huge letdown loss for Notre Dame in

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Speaker 2: But even still, Notre Dame should have won that game.

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Speaker 2: It was an obvious letdown spot they end up losing.

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Speaker 2: The second was Navy, Like, let's be real about this.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame lost twenty eight twenty seven to Navy, and

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Speaker 2: about how playing Navy is weird. They're tough to game

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Speaker 2: It can be physical, especially if you're playing Navy after

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Speaker 1: BC Navy and Pitt. Yeah, I was gonna say Pitt yep.

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Speaker 2: Pitt is the ultimate scar tissue team for Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there are other schools that feel

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Speaker 1: But I think Pitt actually is secret. They might be

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Speaker 3: I am the danger. I am the one who.

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Speaker 1: Knocks because of Clemson, because of Penn State, because of

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Speaker 2: Continue, Pitt and Notre Dame have played fourteen times since

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Speaker 2: the year two thousand. Ten of them have been one

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Speaker 2: If you want to get real specific with scar tissue,

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Speaker 2: split stats. He had more yards, more catches against Notre

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Speaker 2: an average of seventeen point eight per grab. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: just like this game shouldn't be closed, especially not now

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Speaker 1: It actually brings up a good subtopic to the scar

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Speaker 1: If you constantly bring a ton of guys blitzing, it

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Speaker 1: like I have that with Stanford tight ends and giant receivers.

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Speaker 2: ARTHEGA white side. By the way, of course, you know

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't look it up. You have it in

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Speaker 2: Fourteen catches, three hundred and two yards and five touchdowns

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Speaker 1: That's that guy, Seriously, and you know it was super

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup had like two hundred and forty seven yards receiving.

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Speaker 2: Penn State's Iowa. I mean, yeah, let's be honest about this.

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Speaker 2: For me, the origin of this was the game on

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Speaker 2: October twenty third, two thousand and four, the infamous six' four.

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Speaker 2: GAME i was. THERE i was in the student. SECTION

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Speaker 2: DUTY i guess at that point At Penn state super,

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Speaker 2: ALL i remember thinking is that this is like watching

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Speaker 2: that game from the. Stands Penn state's offense was so.

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Speaker 2: Bad this Is Zach mill's Era Penn state.

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Speaker 1: Offense how bad was.

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Speaker 2: It Penn state's offense was so bad That iowa was

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Speaker 2: going to move against their, defense and they. Didn't just

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Speaker 2: a terrible. Game there were five turnovers For Penn state

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Speaker 2: in that, game seven in. Total offenses were so bad

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Speaker 2: Playing Di. Vorgac we'd have been talking it through on

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Speaker 2: this show and poking fun at. It even though this

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Speaker 1: Prior to our.

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Speaker 2: Show But iowa right now currently on a two game winning.

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Speaker 2: Streak they did win the game this past. Season you

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Speaker 2: recall that was the one Where Sean clifford got, Hurt

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Speaker 2: iowa came, back they won twenty three to. Twenty this

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Speaker 2: is ever the game For Penn state ever. Since for

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Speaker 2: me that two thousand and four, game Whenever iowa was

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Speaker 2: on the. Schedule doesn't matter what the points spread, is

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Speaker 1: Me you gotta throw the records.

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Speaker 2: Out you have To. Iowa, yeah AND i saw other

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Speaker 1: Well but even the, wins like the what year was

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Speaker 1: leaving that experience, happy just relieved it's. Over just oh my, God, okay,

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Speaker 1: THAT i need to stop living inside of the energy

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Speaker 2: I don't recall, it, well.

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Speaker 1: That was was that on the road In? Iowa the

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Speaker 2: Believe SO i, think, well ALL i know is all

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Speaker 2: just happy to get out of. It you don't care

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Speaker 1: State that six or four. GAME i think is akin

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Speaker 1: Say it's still college, football but there is such a.

431
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: Thing NOW i can appreciate comical type cheese at bowl

432
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: situations in which we're getting crazy turnovers the offense like

433
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: it's a bowl. Game it doesn't have the same. BAGGAGE

434
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: i get appreciating things that are so comically. Weird it's snow,

435
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: game a monsoon, game when you were watching your, team

436
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: LIKE i think that actually might be the. Answer might

437
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: not be the. Opponent it's the game in which your

438
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: offense was run by some combination of an inept offensive

439
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: line in nept quarterback and nept offensive coordinator, time where

440
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: a three hour football game takes seventeen and a half

441
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: in your.

442
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: MIND i just remember vividly being in the stands and

443
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: looking around and everybody had this shell shocked look on their,

444
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: face partially like being at a game where someone's throwing

445
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: a no, hitter where you realize in the moment that

446
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: you're witnessing something truly, remarkable something that people most people

447
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: don't get a chance to see with their own.

448
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: Eyes have you been to a no hitter? GAME i?

449
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: Have, ACTUALLY i THINK i saw a Roy holiday. GAME

450
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: i Saw Royal halliday throw a no. Hitter, no, no

451
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: was it?

452
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: Fun it was? Great, yeah it was. INCREDIBLE i Saw

453
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: Dennis martinez for The Montreal expos throw a perfect game

454
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: In Dodger. Stadium that's how long ago, Now Presidente nice of,

455
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: course but there was part of that to the experience

456
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: where you couldn't believe you were seeing this. Live and

457
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: then the other part of this, was, wait what we

458
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: have one hundred and seventy yards of offense late in

459
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and five turnovers and we're losing by

460
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: two and we still have no confidence that we're going

461
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: to be able to drive the field. WIN i Think,

462
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: iowa just to branch off of, That iowa's scar tissue

463
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: seems to Be. Northwestern it appears they've lost six of

464
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: eight to The, cats which both is understandable and horrifying

465
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: at the same time Given northwestern's recent one year, in

466
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: one year, out one year, in one year out kind of.

467
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: History but, yeah you look back and the scar tissue

468
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: That iowa randomly has not just With, northwestern but just

469
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: running backs deciding to be A heisman caliber back either

470
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: forever or just for that one. Week that one week

471
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: was Like Justin jackson And Clayton thorson teamed, up like

472
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: there was An iowa game in Which iowa lost thirty

473
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: eight to thirty one To. Northwestern do you know how

474
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: inconceivable that appears to my? Brain do you know to

475
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: combine for my math, says sixty nine points nice in

476
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: a game seems not of this universe in twenty twenty.

477
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Two happened relatively, recently and so there are those instances

478
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: like for whatever, reason and this you can go back

479
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: a couple decades, Now Kirk farents can't figure Out. Evanston

480
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: you just. Can't AND i don't know what that. Is

481
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: i'm not talking about like high Flying Randy, walker spread Offense.

482
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: Northwestern we're still talking about, fits great, defense not a

483
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: lot of offense year over. Year whatever reason fits Owns Kirk,

484
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: farens and it's, wild and it's something that is glorious

485
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: about this. Sport, also you can say For, iowa randomly

486
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: excellent running backs really, shining Like christian McCaffrey And Saquon

487
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: barkley sort of Circled iowa and said this would be

488
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: a great time to pop in front of the. Universe

489
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: this is. Great my, team specifically The Oregon. Ducks it's

490
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: so very CLEAR i MENTION i alluded to The stanford tight.

491
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: Ends So stanford Keeps oregon out of the national championship

492
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: both in two thousand and one and twenty. Twelve the

493
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and one team was not especially. Good twenty

494
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: twelve was a good not Great stanford probably peaked in

495
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: about twenty Ten stanford. Team so there's this past year

496
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: Where stanford was got awful And oregon managed to lose that.

497
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: Game Granted Joe morehead had emergency surgery and was not

498
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: able to coach in that. Game that was a, rough rough.

499
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: Loss stanford's just always hanging around there ready to spoil

500
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: things For. Oregon and then The Arizona. Wildcats The Arizona,

501
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: wildcats The desert is haunted for whatever reason For, oregon

502
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: especially going To. Arizona so in two, THOUSAND i want

503
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: to say Six Chris henry looked like a Random heisman

504
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: running back and ran like two hundred yards In eugene

505
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: for a pretty Bad oregon. Team that was A Brady

506
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: leaf Early dynastics and Flip Floppin' oregon. Team But arizona

507
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: through the Years house of. Horrors Kellen clemens shatters his

508
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: ankle in The. Desert Dennis dixon had already torn HIS,

509
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: acl but emphatically tore HIS acl Against arizona in The.

510
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: DESERT i want to say Bj denker completely tore apart

511
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: Of Mark elfrich team in twenty. Thirteen that's the sort

512
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: of skinny lefty who's probably leading a life doing something

513
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 1: not related to sports at this. Point but there are

514
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: Random arizona games that no matter WHERE i, am no

515
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: matter What i'm thinking, about With, Oregon i'm never Taking

516
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: oregon has blown Out arizona in. Games they shut out

517
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: A ritrod, team they demolished in An arizona team in

518
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: THE pac Twelve, championship doesn't, matter doesn't. Matter arizona is always,

519
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: lurking AND i hate. IT i hate The, cats Hate Willie,

520
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: TATAMA i Hate Nick, GRIGGSBY i hate all of these.

521
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: Guys khalil what was his, name The Khalil, kakerry, Well Khalil.

522
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: Tate they Actually oregon did well Against Klil, tate but

523
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: kuadeem carry all of these. GUYS Jj. TAYLOR i hate

524
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: Seeing oregon on the field With. Arizona And i've ring

525
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: this up too.

526
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: Much i've got in front of me the box score

527
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: from the twenty eighteen game Where arizona one forty four to.

528
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: Fifteen that was that Was mario's first.

529
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: YEAR i think it Was mari's first. Year, yeah it

530
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: was Justin, herbert, right Justin herbert had an ok. Day

531
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: he led the team in rushing with thirty one. Yards

532
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: oregon couldn't get anything going on the. Ground Khalil tate three,

533
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: touchdowns he was.

534
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: Sensational, yeah they did do well Against.

535
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: And that was A Jj taylor game, too where he

536
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: went over two, hundred had two. Scores just not a

537
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: good look in that game for The Oregon. Docs, YEAH

538
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: i remember that one pretty.

539
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: Vividly we talk, about you, Know pullman Or, lubbock you,

540
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: know things that are sort of far removed from not,

541
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: society but far removed from bigger. Places In tucsons what

542
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: a couple hours From. Phoenix but you go To, hucson

543
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: you plan night. GAME i don't. Know you can talk

544
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: to usc, fans you can talk TO ucla. FANS i

545
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: Think ucla had at some point like a crazy charm

546
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: season And arizona blew the doors off of.

547
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: Them In.

548
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: Tucson they're just, Ready they're always there's a hunger To

549
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: arizona in the desert at night THAT i hate but

550
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: respect so. Thoroughly but that is that Is it's the scar.

551
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Tissue it's that SO i hate.

552
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: IT i hate.

553
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: IT i hate, it And i'm let's let's go other,

554
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: places BECAUSE i can't talk about this any.

555
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: Longer all, right what else do we have?

556
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: Here?

557
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 2: Dan that jumped out to? You So.

558
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: Syracuse we had a sound for this For syracuse and

559
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: when it was called The Carrier. Dome just like a

560
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: randomly very Good louisville team loses a randomly good, Uh

561
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: Eric dungee probably did this to like seventeen, teams but

562
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: a randomly Good clemson team who's down a quarterback or

563
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks and going to the CARRIER i just, LIKE

564
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: i just earthquake weather is happening in Western New york right.

565
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: Now it just exists over The Carrier dome at all.

566
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Times and Like Virginia tech And syracuse is one that

567
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: like twenty, SIXTEEN i want to, Say Virginia tech was

568
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: a good. Team that was when they had Oh Gerard,

569
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: Evans oh wow for an early Flent a. Team was

570
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: that twenty? SIXTEEN i think it was somewhere in. There

571
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: pull it up And Eric dungey's, Like i'm gonna just

572
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: put a four hundred and fifty total? Yards is that

573
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: cool with? Everybody And Virginia tech And syracuse is LIKE

574
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: i AM i am positive that if A hoky is

575
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: listening to this right. Now they're nodding, along possibly hitting,

576
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: stop possibly throwing their phone into a reservoir because there

577
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: is too much baggage there For. Hokies and they haven't

578
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: played a whole.

579
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: Lot they've only played nineteen times in the history of that,

580
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: series And syracuse is actually one the last two they.

581
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: Won last. Year they played that one In, blacksburg, right

582
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: that was After fluente was relieved of. Command and then

583
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: the game you're referencing was back in twenty. Sixteen that

584
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: was Early fluente played that one In syracuse and The

585
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: orange one thirty one to.

586
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: Seventeen, yeah it was a dungee. GAME i look that

587
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: up and it was a dungeon game and it was

588
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: not FUN i. Have by the, way this is something

589
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: that almost makes me. Angry Florida auburn that they've played

590
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: once since twenty. Eleven, yeah that's WHY i need the, Pods,

591
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: baby give me the. Pods we need that those pods

592
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: because THE sec is so large and The big ten's

593
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: about to be so large that we just we need

594
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: better organization to get teams playing each other because this

595
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: is a definite scar tissue matchup For florida. FANS i

596
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: think they've won, recently But auburn has. Won according to

597
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: my numbers or Wins apedia's, Numbers florida's lost four of

598
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: their last six To. Auburn two thousand and, Seven florida

599
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: is in the top. Five That's Tim Tebow's heisman winning.

600
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Year And Wes byrom makes not one but two field

601
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: goals at the end of the game Because urban my

602
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: tries to ice, them makes the forty three, yarder has

603
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: to kick it, again makes it. Again That's Brandon. Cox

604
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: that's you, know An aubury team that wasn't all that.

605
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: Good And Wes, biram WHO i want to, say, also

606
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: just speaking Of oregon's car, tissue he hits that game

607
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: winning field goal at the end of The National championship

608
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: three years. Later but West biram does The gator chomp

609
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: To florida to The florida sideline after winning that, game

610
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: And florida, fans we got this from a number of

611
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: people On twitter And. Instagram so they Just auburn leaves

612
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: a taste in their mouth that they have not been

613
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: able to. Shake and SO i guess good For florida

614
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: for not having to play them all that. Often but

615
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: that is that is definitely a matchup THAT i Think

616
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: gator fans are all too happy to leave in the rearview.

617
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Mirror it's wild that they haven't played more now That

618
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: i'm look at, it, Right isn't that?

619
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: Crazy there was, like a we had this conversation With

620
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: georgia And TEXAS a AND m that since joining they've

621
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: only played once or. Something yea, that, yeah we need

622
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: to figure out scheduling on a better. Level but, Yeah

623
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: auburn for whatever, reason look in their. Chops yeah The.

624
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: Florida florida won the last matchup by the, way twenty

625
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: four to, thirteen but that was back in twenty. Nineteen

626
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: they played that one In. Gainesville but you're right before,

627
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: that you got to go all the way back to twenty.

628
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: Eleven there was a matchup in twenty two thousand and,

629
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: seven two thousand and, six two thousand and two, one

630
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 2: and then two THOUSAND.

631
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: Usc And Oregon. State SO usc had won four in a.

632
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: Row and then was it who was The Oregon state

633
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: quarterback last? Year Sam, Noyer Chance nolan one of those

634
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: guys You Oregon, STATE i mean behind mostly a rushing,

635
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: attack but they take DOWN. Usc but if you go

636
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: back to the two thousands WHEN usc was really, hitting

637
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: this is what we. Have two thousand and, six thirty

638
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: three thirty one In. CORVALLIS i want to, say midweek

639
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty one In, corvallis two thousand and,

640
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: eight thirty six to seven in twenty, Ten Oregon state OVER.

641
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: Usc where if by some, miracle see gets back to

642
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: that nationally elite, place it won't matter TO sc fans

643
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: If Oregon state is that week's, game because there's just

644
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: two and at some point Either james Or Quiz rogers

645
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: is going to have a, kid if they haven't, yet

646
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: who will be a football playing. Age and even if

647
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: that kid does not play For Oregon, state if he

648
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: plays For San Diego, state if he plays For, purdue

649
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: if he plays for whatever CONFERENCE usc is in in twenty,

650
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: years there's fear there is something that's going to be

651
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: in the air about the last Name rogers AND.

652
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: Usc what's wild about this? Matchup so they've played a

653
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: lot over the, years, RIGHT i, mean the series is

654
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: CURRENTLY usc at sixty three, Wins Oregon state at twelve,

655
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: wins with four ties kind of mixed in. There Oregon

656
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: state won last year by the, way by about eighteen

657
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: points or. So but before two, thousand there was a

658
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: thirty year stretch between nineteen sixty seven and nineteen ninety

659
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: nine WHERE usc won every single matchup and they played

660
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: just about every, Year so there was a lot of

661
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: baggage there For Oregon state folks before that matchup in

662
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: two thousand when they took DOWN usc And, corvallis and

663
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: then there have been a couple since. Then, obviously over

664
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: the last twenty years or, So Oregon states knocked them

665
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: off a handful of other, times but have been some odd.

666
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: Matchups for.

667
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: SURE i have another team that appears to BE i

668
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: am the.

669
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: DANGER i am the one who knocks.

670
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: The Tulsa Golden.

671
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: HURRICANE i saw the suggestion from a bunch of.

672
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: FOLKS ucf is on a very active losing streak To.

673
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: Tulsa whether It's Dane, evans whether It's Zach, smith whether

674
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: It's tulsa Giving cincinnati and putting the fear Of god

675
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: into The bearcats seemingly every. Season sure there is something About,

676
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: tulsa AND i know somebody just hired their their defensive.

677
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: Coordinator they fielded some good defenses. Randomly they've been really

678
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: good on. Offense, obviously go back To Gus mel's on

679
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: At tulsa with you know whoever herb hand, like they

680
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: always do something scarily. Well and whether it's Again, CINCINNATI,

681
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: yucf whoever it is that's popping up in The american

682
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: or whatever iteration of whatever, Conference tulsa is In tulsa

683
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: is just college, football lime, disease just the tick that

684
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: you don't. Expect and a pretty good program for, sure

685
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: but somebody who's just ready to ruin somebody's.

686
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: Autumn that's What tulsa. Is, Yeah AND i think if

687
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: you're A tulsa, fan by the, way you have a

688
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: little bit of scar tissue on your. Own because WHAT

689
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: i noticed About tulsa is they've got a lot of

690
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: one score. Games, yeah a lot of games where they're in,

691
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: IT i mean are they would definitely rise to the

692
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: level of WHAT i would consider plucky where they're just

693
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 2: in every. Game if you're A tulsa, fan how about

694
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: a little breathing. Room, yeah how about we win a

695
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: game by like fourteen points and we're not on pins

696
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: and needles going into the fourth quarter AGAINST Uc.

697
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: Davis you, know, YEAH i don't know how many people

698
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: listening to the show are Diehard tulsa, People but The

699
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: tulsa football experience is, trying is What i'm. Guessing that

700
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: you're either winning those close games losing those close, games

701
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: and there's never really a breakout random eleven win season

702
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: or two win. Season you're just, like, yeah it's gonna

703
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: be a twenty eight to twenty seven. Game who. Wins

704
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: who's to? Say that's The tulsa, experience which is pretty

705
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: terrifying if you're anybody, else but also terrifying if you

706
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: are A tulsa fan. Yourself so, Yeah tulsa absolutely is

707
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: that thorn is the danger is the one who knocks

708
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: for probably far too many.

709
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: Teams i'm looking at their schedule from last. Season, yeah

710
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: seven and six was their fin'll tally one, two, three, four, five, six,

711
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: seven eight nine one score. Games they're Like.

712
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: Nebraska yeah, no they are in the, end by the.

713
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Way MORE sec, Teams, yeah who? Else we see matchups

714
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: LIKE lsu fans are, Saying, arkansas even though they'll win

715
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of those, games you, know you still have

716
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: The darren McFadden's scar. TISSUE i saw a COUPLE lsu

717
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: fans Mentioned troy that even though you, know they lose the.

718
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: GAME i think it was the The Matt canada Coach

719
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: oh year they lose To, troy but there were close

720
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: calls in the two, Thousands. Yep that there are just those.

721
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Matchups oregon has it a little bit by the way

722
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: With Boise state as well AS i think back there

723
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: were you, know two or three of those matchups and

724
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: they made.

725
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: Those are Good boise teams, though you, know but.

726
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: Those are good and there is like it's not a,

727
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: rivalry but Because oregon has taken a bunch Of boise

728
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: coaches And boise now has Taken Andy, avlos like there

729
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: is this weird symbiotics not sister, school but the there

730
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: is a relationship between those two, schools you, know with you,

731
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Know Chris peterson going To washington and you know having

732
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: coaching At. Oregon there's like that there's a lot of

733
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: weird overlap Between oregon And Boise, state the overlap between

734
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: The Garrett blunt And Byron hout's.

735
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: Fist, yeah it's also true is.

736
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: Something, there but, yeah you're you're not wrong that there

737
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: is something. There but, YEAH Lsu arkansas there was you

738
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Know Alabama arkansas has even Though arkansas hasn't gotten over

739
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: The tide had gotten one over on. Them they're just, like,

740
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: yeah they lost fourteen. Thirteen oh, yeah they were in

741
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: the game near the end of the fourth quarter last.

742
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: Year there is something there with The, hogs and they'll

743
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: lose a game fifty two to three for. Sure that

744
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: is also going to be in the cards in this.

745
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Matchup BUT i don't, Know South carolina sort of Had

746
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: alabama's not their. Number Ole. Miss of, course Under Hugh

747
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: freeze Had alabama sort of scared in on the ropes

748
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: for two or three.

749
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: Years there were a lot of a lot Of alabama

750
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: people who wrote in so Old. Miss, yeah of course

751
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: you get a lot of answers where it actually ends

752
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: up being that they're more afraid of the.

753
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: Coach but, Yeah.

754
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: Ole miss in this case is one that kind of

755
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: goes across. Generation, right we had The Hugh freeze, era

756
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: we've had the last couple of years now With Link.

757
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: Kiffin, yeah THE acc is so wide open by the,

758
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: way to shift a little bit more, EAST i don't

759
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: even like you could talk About, Louisville. Syracuse but then

760
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: Like Lamar jackson sort of Stomped syracuse THAT i think

761
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: shook a little bit of the fear in cobwebs that

762
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: are probably occupying the minds Of louisville. Fans, yeah there's

763
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: a lot in the acc just because of how crazy

764
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: the coastal has been that it's hard to say that

765
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: like this one dominant team has always struggled with, this

766
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: but maybe we're forgetting. Something is there anybody else across

767
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: the sport where we saw responses where you're, like oh my, god,

768
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: yes that's. RIGHT i, mean it's all over THE pac

769
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: twelve because that's been a pretty open. Conference you, Know

770
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: oregon has a weird history With Utah, utah With. Wazoo

771
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: like Those Mike leech, Teams oh, yeah were always like

772
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: they're just gonna put the fear Of god into somebody every,

773
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: week even if they, lose just because they're so specific

774
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: with what they, did and even the defenses a couple

775
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: of years of those defenses were pretty. Scary anybody else

776
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: within the sport that meets That Ohio State purdue.

777
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: Standard by the, way before we go any, FURTHER i

778
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: did see we got a comment from one guy Named Aaron,

779
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: okay just to close the loop on THE acc he,

780
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: Said miami fan here holds up picture of the rest

781
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: of the coastal. Divisions oh, Yeah miami's definitely had a

782
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: love hate relationship with other teams in.

783
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: Conference it always had felt like during The miami the

784
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: Better miami. Teams during THE acc, era they're, like, yeah

785
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: they had a pretty good. Year they went nine to,

786
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: three dig, up blown out By. Duke that is the

787
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: thing that. Happened they did lose TO, fiu they did

788
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: lose To Georgia. Tech that there's always going to be

789
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: Like miami's, baggage their scar tissue is going to be

790
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: an inexplicable loss to a largely terrible opponent that's always

791
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: just gonna be creeping Up miami's. Radar.

792
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: Yeah the one that THAT i got the biggest kick

793
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: out of was The northwestern reference that you pulled, earlier

794
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 2: Because northwestern is one of those teams, that, now let's

795
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: not look at what they did last, season for, sure but.

796
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: Right Michigan state fans are nodding and have some tears

797
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: streaming down their. Cheeks.

798
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: YEAH i threw Out northwestern as a team that gave

799
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: ME odja About Penn state a couple of weeks. Ago

800
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: on this. Show, yeah, right not necessarily the scar, tissue

801
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: but Just evanston for whatever, Reason, DAN i don't know

802
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: what kind of energy you're picking up in the. Vicinity

803
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: seems like a place that opponents have had a difficult

804
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: time figuring.

805
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: OUT i mean it is sort of an ephis experience

806
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: where it's not overwhelmingly. Loud it's not At Ryan, field isn't,

807
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: huge it's sort of right in the middle of Downtown.

808
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: Evanston whatever that is that you're used to in The Big.

809
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: TEN a lot of these programs, have even the programs

810
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: that aren't, great have these big, stadiums and you, know

811
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: football so important in The midwest And saturday tradition and

812
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: really everything about. It it's a different energy In evanston

813
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: For northwestern. GAMES i know they had That they had

814
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: the night, GAME i think A friday night game Against

815
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: Ohio state when they're pretty, good and there was some excitement.

816
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: There Maybe Game day came To, evanston so there was

817
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: there was some energy for that. One but it's a different.

818
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: Place it's a different place than you're used to when

819
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: you go Into West lafayette Or State college Or lincoln

820
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: or any of these. Places AND i don't. KNOW i.

821
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: THINK i think players Visiting evanston are used to a

822
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: certain obnoxious road crowd and the hornet's. Nest that is

823
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: a lot of these, places and you're just not getting that.

824
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Field you're just. Something it's it's the earthquake weather embodied

825
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: in the. Stadium all.

826
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: Right, well, look soliverbo at gmail dot com is the

827
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: email address right, in let us know who we. Missed, Well,

828
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: also as we've grown accustomed to, doing we'll be posting

829
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: clips out to social Media, Instagram, Facebook, twitter TikTok. Wherever right,

830
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: in let us know what your thoughts, are who we,

831
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: missed what? Players WHAT i want to hear from people

832
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: is specifically the, players because you AND i enjoy very

833
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: much the old exercise of going through and talking about

834
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: old baseball players or old college football. Players there have

835
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: to be just a small army of guys that fit this.

836
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: Mold The Jonathan, baldwins the JJ, R Thega White, Sides

837
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: chris Hen Justin, jackson who you, Met Clayton, thorson you

838
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: can go, Back Dan persa, like let's talk about some

839
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: of these random college football guys from a bygone era

840
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: and which one specifically gave you and your team scar.

841
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: Tissue that's What i'd like to.

842
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: Get who else is it for? You who other Than

843
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: John baldwin For Notre dame where you're just like f

844
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: that GUY i hate that he decided to eat super

845
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: weedies this morning for the first time in eleven, weeks

846
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: and now he's decided to do it Against Notre dame

847
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 1: Or Penn. State i'm putting you on the. Spot, yeah

848
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: to be guys, though when you, LOOK i Mean Notre

849
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: dame has such like a very Like tate Four cia

850
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: he randomly decided to be good this.

851
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: Week What tate for is gonna be my? Answer, Yeah TATE.

852
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: FORCI i remember that. GAME i happen to remember WHERE

853
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: i was for a lot of these scar tissue, games.

854
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Of, course and that's what gives you the scar. Tissue

855
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: it's what gives.

856
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: You the scar, tissue, Right, YEAH i REMEMBER i was

857
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: at a friend's step parents house and watching That tate

858
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: FOUR cia, game just on all, fours pounding the floor

859
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: like stop, him stop? Him how can you not Stop tate?

860
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: For who is this Guy Tate fourier out of any

861
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: others for you With, orton Oh sony.

862
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: Others so THERE'S i have a scar tissue get. LOSS

863
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: i Mentioned Washington. STATE i want to say twenty, Fifteen

864
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Vernon adams is. Hurt Royce freeman rushes for nine hundred

865
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: and forty seven yards Against wazoo in a losing effort

866
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: like an all time recent college football in a losing effort,

867
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: moment But oregon starts back up. QUARTERBACK i want to

868
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: Say Jeff, walckeye who also played AGAINST tcu And Vernon,

869
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: adams went down later in the year in The bowl,

870
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: game And oregon managed to lose a game with a

871
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: running back who averaged LIKE i don't, know eleven yards of.

872
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: Carry like the degree of difficulty loss will stay with me.

873
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: FOREVER i remember watching that game on a laptop in

874
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: a hotel In dallas with you know old you know

875
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: was shooting a video, there and the crew was in

876
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: the hotel room with, me and they they're, like, okay is,

877
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: Everything like let's just let's go to outback. Steakhouse let's

878
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: just go let's. Leave and so there are those, games

879
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: but specific, players, YEAH i, mean they're always going to

880
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: be guys who randomly Pop that WEEK i mentioned and

881
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: The Chris henry thing With. ARIZONA i Remember Chauncey washington

882
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: absolutely Buried oregon in. EIGHT i want to say in

883
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: the coliseum something somewhere in, there because there's always been

884
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: like excellent players Like Reggie bush had a really good

885
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: game In. EUGENE i, Remember, okay who was give me

886
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: a last? Name cal quarterback two thousand and six?

887
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: Long?

888
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: Oh, No Nate? Longshore Maybe Nate? Loe was he the

889
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: quarterback in two thousand and six For? CAL i remember

890
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: he Destroyed oregon Long shore two thousand and five to

891
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and, Eight Nate. Longshore that that did me in.

892
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: EMOTIONALLY i was in the stadium for that. One gronk

893
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: had a huge game and a losing. Effort that was

894
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: a terrifying game to. Watch we're, Like oregon's gonna throw

895
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of five eleven two and ten pound linebackers

896
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: At Rob. Gronkowski let's see how. This, Nope, nope he.

897
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916
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934
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: Month two final, items BECAUSE i totally forgot something About.

935
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: Pitt Notre dame twenty twelve was a very contentious year for.

936
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: Us that was the first YEAR i. Moved not contentious,

937
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: personally but there was a lot of adjeta between us

938
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i Thought oregon should be national championship. WORTHY i

939
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: Thought Notre dames rode through twenty twelve when they go

940
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: undefeated was kind of fraudulent and that sort of bore

941
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: itself out Against. Alabama but win the. Games that's the

942
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: POINT i want to. Say Notre dame was taken to

943
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: three overtimes By pitt that. YEAR a pit team that

944
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: was taken to overtime by The penguins Of Youngstown. State

945
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: so that was sort of a thing in the back

946
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: of my head That Notre dame Was Youngstown state ish

947
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: by proxy of the transitive. Property, YEAH i remember that

948
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: being a, Thing AND i don't remember How Notre dame

949
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: pulled that game. Out it appears it was twenty nine

950
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: to twenty, six so it was not a high scoring

951
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: affair if it went three.

952
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: Overtimes, well that was a game where they were down.

953
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 2: LATE i think they were down two scores going into

954
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter And Everett golson had remember Ever, golson

955
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: that was another guy who probably jumped to the Top Florida. State,

956
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: yeah Ever golsen threw two touchdown passes in the fourth.

957
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: Quarter i've got it up in front of me, now

958
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: and they converted a two point conversion with like two

959
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: minutes left in order to send that one to. Ot

960
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: Kyle brinza kicked like eight field goals this game for

961
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: not for, me that was how they ended up. Winning so,

962
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean so much scar tissue With. Pitt it's

963
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: a very mind.

964
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: Matchup my other item is are you A Chili peppers?

965
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Guy just BECAUSE i, mean this is a great turn a, Phrase.

966
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: I'm down with The Chili. Peppers, Yeah i'm down with

967
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 2: The Chili. PEPPERS i DON'T i don't celebrate their entire

968
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: library or anything of that, ilk but, Yeah i'm Pro Chili.

969
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: Peppers, SURE i like The Chili. Peppers i've never been

970
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: to A Chili pepper. SHOW i don't know IF i

971
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: own Any Chili peppers. ALBUMS i don't THINK i, do

972
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: but especially around the two, thousands, like they have more

973
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: hits than you, remember and they're an all time great

974
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: behind the music.

975
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: BAND i was gonna, say if you've ever seen interviews With, Flea.

976
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah super Super laker, Fan dodger.

977
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: Fan, Yeah flea's given some interesting.

978
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: Interviews, yeah, Oh flea's. Great you got the old picture

979
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: of them wearing nothing but. Socks you've got all the

980
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: stories From Blood, Sugar Sex, magic where they recorded in

981
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: a Hunted there's so many good extra nuggets about The

982
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: Red Hot Chili, peppers extra nuggets boom about The Red

983
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: Hot Chili. Peppers some story was they were given like

984
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: a five thousand dollars budget by the record label for

985
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: incidentals while recording one of their, albums and they estimated

986
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: that they spent two thousand dollars of that on heroin

987
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: And coke' just like that's a hearty percentage of incidental. Costs,

988
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: yeah The Chili, PEPPERS i mean guys coming in and

989
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: out of the. Band the drummer chad looks Like Will,

990
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: Ferrell John fraschonte is. Great you, Know Anthony keidas has a,

991
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: mustang like there's just like this ongoing appeal to me

992
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: of The Chili. Peppers and sometimes you'll hear a New

993
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: Chili peppers song and you're, like did they just improvise?

994
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: That right? Now it makes no, Sense like they didn't

995
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: even talk about it before, playing and they're just jam

996
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: like what is? This and then they'll play another song

997
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: where like this just. Bangs this is. Great, YEAH i

998
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: love that element to The, Peppers and So i'm A

999
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: Chili peppers.

1000
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,240
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