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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. A little reunity

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Speaker 1: and when we're talking about the NCAA tournament and all

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Speaker 1: that kind of chaos, Dan Byer to my left. Here

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Speaker 1: the excitement in my voices, you know, a familiar face,

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Speaker 2: We could have since it's Jordan Anniversary time of year,

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Speaker 2: a huge day of college hoops and yeah, I'm good

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Speaker 1: Lots of stuff on the horizon here. What is old

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, sometimes time off isn't the greatest thing.

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Speaker 2: That first day of work after a ten day vacation

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Speaker 2: sometimes is a rough one, Mike, And that sure seemed

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Speaker 2: to be the case for the Lakers last night. But hey,

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Speaker 1: Kind of curious, curious, right? We love Scoragami in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We had that Josh Giddy with the stat line nobody

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Speaker 1: kind of that. Kobe White, your favorite players, favorite player

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Speaker 1: having himself another night, buddy. That's what I loved last night.

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Speaker 1: I texted you, guys, did you start throwing paper towards

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Speaker 3: He's been great.

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Speaker 2: I wondered how great he would be transferring, not transferring,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, he's been a huge bright spot for the BA.

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Speaker 1: Bit by bit starting to get his game rounded out.

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Speaker 1: keeping an eye on all things NCAA tournament, Duke and

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Speaker 1: Oregon getting after it. On the women's side, we've got

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Speaker 1: men's getting ready to tip up. Like there's so much

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Speaker 1: going on obviously everything else in our sporting universe as

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Speaker 1: we get ready towards opening day of Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah really, and I'm waiting on updates from my kids'

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Speaker 1: soccer game in Arizona. So lots of activity going on

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Speaker 1: here as Dan Bayer and I bring you for the

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Speaker 1: next two hours at Dan Byro on Fox where you

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Speaker 1: find and find me over at Swollen Dome, but one

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Speaker 1: of the storylines and I found a delicious theater. As

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Speaker 1: the week war on, you know how many people jumped

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Speaker 1: on board the Saint John's bandwagon. I think it was

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Speaker 1: betting public because they were still twenty five to one

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Speaker 1: I talking this out a little bit before we came

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Speaker 1: on air, Dan Is like, I think we just loved

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Speaker 1: Patino with all of his transgressions with the big Star

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Speaker 1: And so it's well, I mean, they just had a

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Speaker 2: So to your point, yeah, there is something about the

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Speaker 2: your other point, you mentioned Brownie James in a seventeen earlier.

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Speaker 2: would have been much more popular if it was in

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Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament, whether it be at Duquine, whether it

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Speaker 2: I mean and Patino. I don't even feel bad about

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Speaker 2: Mike because of the run that they had this year,

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Speaker 2: didn't get it done in the NCAA tournament. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: to your point, I think I think everybody became melancholy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets us one of those storylines to grab

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Speaker 1: Ovechkin takes far right? I mean, hey, Conter Bedard with

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: my garment Dan Byer with you as we get ready

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Speaker 1: for another huge day of the NCAA tournament. They're hitting

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I want to talk about soccer today,

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Speaker 2: Hey, I always thought, is it is it when he

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Speaker 1: it's Haucker Report, World of Soccer, the World of Soccer

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Speaker 1: as part of the Bernie Fritto Show here on Saturday

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Speaker 2: Well along that it was jump. It wasn't even Panama.

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Speaker 2: It was in John. That's what I just sang.

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Speaker 2: Delaware coming up in the fall. Would you rather go

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Speaker 2: see the Delaware game or would you maybe see what

433
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: this spring game is all about? I actually think that

434
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Speaker 2: it could add value in a time where people when

435
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Speaker 2: they're looking at their season tickets and renewing season tickets,

436
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: and Colorado's we had a lot of buzz. So maybe

437
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: they're not the greatest example, but I know friends of

438
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: mine who have season tickets to college football teams and

439
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: they're like, you know what, we don't play anybody good.

440
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: Our conference is mediocre. We don't have teams coming to

441
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Speaker 2: our stadium. I'm not sure I'm going to renew. And

442
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: maybe you won't need an Alabama or you need an

443
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Speaker 2: LSU or a Notre Dame to come to your stadium

444
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Speaker 2: to make it that package worthwhile. I think that this

445
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: could only add value if you could even put it

446
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Speaker 2: in terms of a package sort of deal. So I'm

447
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. When everybody else is digging, there's zagging.

448
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out, you know, And I'm

449
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Speaker 1: sure this is the thought process for the Colorado Brass

450
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Speaker 1: of all right, how do we keep the heat? Right?

451
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: Hunter's gone, Chador is gone. We have no idea what

452
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: this next iteration is. You can talk about all the

453
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Speaker 1: guys that are transferring in, but does that electricity remain

454
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Speaker 1: because part of the juice for better or for worse,

455
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: because oftentimes it's been worse in our business, and certainly

456
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Speaker 1: in the message boards. Is Dion with his son and

457
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: now it's deon the coach. Right. The kid's gone. He's

458
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: got to go do his own thing, whether he goes

459
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Speaker 1: to the Giants or the Steelers or whatever whatever team

460
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: he ends up with. You know that part of that

461
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: chapter's closed on the Dion Sanders coaching playbook. So I'm

462
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: the interested observer of all right, what do you do

463
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: now that the kid that obviously have a lifelong relationship

464
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Speaker 1: with you can talk to however you need to talk

465
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Speaker 1: to you know, a heart brass tax get down to it.

466
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Speaker 1: Uh and who grew up watching you take heat at

467
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Speaker 1: every turn, so he learned to deal with that. And

468
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Speaker 1: you know we we have all those reports because he's

469
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Speaker 1: threatening Dione, I know who called him arrogant? Like Eric,

470
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a bad thing. And to be ahead,

471
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Speaker 1: to be a quarterback and of any level of success,

472
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Speaker 1: it's like being in our business, you got to have

473
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Speaker 1: some level of arrogance sure to you to decide, Hey,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna open up a microphone, do you need to

475
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Speaker 1: carry it and keep you know, reminding people of stuff.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: But for for Shador Sanders, the fact that only one

478
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Speaker 1: guy said that I'm a little concerned on that side,

479
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Speaker 1: and it's like that that he didn't come off as

480
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Speaker 1: you know that that confident and whatever, because that's the

481
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Speaker 1: way he's carried himself. But the point is for Dion

482
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Speaker 1: Sanders trying to innovate and go to this next step,

483
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Speaker 1: it's like, all right, how do you innovate and keep

484
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Speaker 1: the game moving? And to your point, this is an

485
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Speaker 1: opportunity for folks to maybe come see I mean, he

486
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: has ce Syracuse too, wherever this gets played. But you

487
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: get to come to the stadium, you're gonna get to

488
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Speaker 1: see the new toys, the new players, probably do some

489
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: meet and greets, and that next generation of fans you've

490
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: sucked them in. Because that's the challenge for every sport,

491
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: for every business, right except for fast food places, every

492
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Speaker 1: place else is how do we get the eyeballs, hearts, minds,

493
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Speaker 1: and wallets of the next generation.

494
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Speaker 2: And that it's it's a different way to do it,

495
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: and it's not gonna it's not gonna be earth shattering,

496
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: but I sure like it better than we're not gonna

497
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Speaker 2: do it at all. And if you go to one

498
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Speaker 2: of those games, or if you were to go to

499
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Speaker 2: say a Delaware Colorado game, maybe in the second half

500
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: you're seeing more of more of the reserve players. And

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Speaker 2: I'm using Delaware as an example because Delaware is on

502
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Speaker 2: Colorado's schedule this upcoming fall. It's a spring game where

503
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Speaker 2: if you don't want to play your starters, mic or

504
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: your stars, because everything is set, at least you're watching

505
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Speaker 2: your guys compete against another now power five school or

506
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Speaker 2: power four school. And in Syracuse, and I just I'm

507
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: all for that to see two different sets of uniforms

508
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: on the field, I think is great. What's tricky is

509
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Speaker 2: the NCAA is gonna hear this petition on April tenth.

510
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 2: Syracuse's spring game is scheduled the twelfth, and Colorado's is

511
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Speaker 2: the nineteenth, So I don't know what. Maybe Syracuse would

512
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Speaker 2: still go through their operation two days later, maybe lighten

513
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: it up if they were to compete against Colorado. So

514
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: the window is tight to do it. But I actually

515
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: just like how Deon brings it up. Fran Brown responds,

516
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: they do something about it and this could actually happen.

517
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Speaker 2: That's like getting stuff done.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask, do Colorado or Syracuse have anybody on

519
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Speaker 1: the steering commission?

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 1: North Carolina?

522
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Speaker 3: Man, Hey, you can do.

523
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Speaker 1: A hard knock on anybody named Buddy that you.

524
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Speaker 3: Can get Gosh, yeah, seriously, But you're right.

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Speaker 1: You can do a whole off season of programming if

526
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Speaker 1: other schools did this as well. Right, how do you

527
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Speaker 1: approach it? What do you show? How do you build this?

528
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: But I'm also looking at it like revenue, where you're

529
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Speaker 1: trying to figure, like Eve, even if the tickets are

530
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Speaker 1: five bucks, you sell fifty thousand of them there's more

531
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Speaker 1: for your whatever whatever facilities, whatever auxiliary staff to get

532
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Speaker 1: a little more juice.

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Speaker 2: Think if it was the other way around, And think, Mike,

534
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: think if Colorado went to Syracuse. You don't think there

535
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: would be a buzz in Syracuse that Deon Sanders is

536
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: bringing his team. Take any other top college program, Say

537
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Speaker 2: you're Texas A and m okay, they're old ad is

538
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: now at Ohio State. Hey let's do a spring game

539
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: sort of thing. Ohio State goes down to college station

540
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: to do a that would be amazing, Like how many.

541
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Speaker 3: People would get involved and be excited about that.

542
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: To have that school just come on down, even if

543
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: it was for a spring practice. I think it can

544
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: only add value instead of taking it away and trying

545
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: to protect what's yours.

546
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: The other opportunity and this flips on the on its

547
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: head the old concept of bowl games to a degree,

548
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: because now you can make this a big event. Yeah,

549
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: and the travel and the tourism of hey, we're going

550
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: to hold a couple of workouts culminating in this this game.

551
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Whatever it becomes, whatever you agree to, whatever the NCAA

552
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: and the last vestiges of power and struggles that they

553
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: have there try to hold on to that they allow

554
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: you to do. I think there's a whole other cottage

555
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: industry that helps build momentum long long into a season.

556
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it just it gives you another reason to do it.

557
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: Teams will be scheduling UNLV so then their fans can

558
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: maybe travel go have a vacation in Las Vegas. It

559
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: may not be like it was a real game, but

560
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: I just think that it adds value to it. And

561
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 2: kudos to Dion and frand Brown for trying to make

562
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Speaker 2: it work.

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Speaker 1: Shake it up. I dig it at Dan Byron Fox

564
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Speaker 1: where you find and find me over at Swollen Dome

565
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: coming up as we get ready, the family is together.

566
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Speaker 1: I gotta go suit up because you gotta look nice

567
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Speaker 1: when you play a game of this magnitude. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really terribly on Idean.

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Speaker 2: You're doing okay, you're not doing Steve Hartman, well, who's

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Speaker 2: on top of the brackets, but you're doing okay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's the mention. So the challenge is for his

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Speaker 1: entire show. He can't say a damn word about it.

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Speaker 1: All right now, Dan, I turned the Giants stick microphone

587
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Speaker 1: back over to you.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 2: It's great to be here, and it's great to be

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Speaker 2: surrounded by friends or should I say family, more specifically

591
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Speaker 2: the foxfamily. As we play the feud, Mike Carmen, Chris Purfett,

592
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: Bo Benson, and Isaac Longcron make up the Foxfamily. Always

593
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Speaker 2: trying to make these topics not Steve Hartman timely irrelevant. No,

594
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Speaker 2: Shae got a lifetime ban because of Steve Hartman.

595
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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: But then I had to peel back on it. He

597
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Speaker 2: had to apply for reinstatement because otherwise my other games

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Speaker 2: couldn't be played without Shay. But it was originated by

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Speaker 2: uh so Shay was like Barry Bonds and Steve Hartman

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Speaker 2: was victor CONTI because he was supplying Yeah.

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Speaker 3: With the set.

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Speaker 7: If I remember, he fed him the Saint Louis Hawks.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it did, that is correct.

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Speaker 5: Good.

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Speaker 2: Steve is leaving the building. Top seven answers on the board.

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Speaker 2: Try to make these relevant or timely. I thought this

607
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Speaker 2: was a fun one because I want to know the

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Speaker 2: seven Division one basketball schools that come from the state

609
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Speaker 2: of Utah. All right, the seven Division one basketball schools

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Speaker 2: that come from the state of Utah. Bo bent In

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Speaker 2: an hour ago is like, I'm not a huge into

612
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: college basketball, so this is just going to but but

613
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Speaker 2: it doesn't have to all be college basketball if you

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Speaker 2: really think about it.

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Speaker 3: Mike Carmen, your first up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just take by you and runolfs.

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00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: All right, show me BYU. There we go.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say number one answer because I

619
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Speaker 2: think that could offend the other six one.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Now you're ranking the schools. That's the number

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Speaker 1: one answer.

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Speaker 2: Dance not fight the BYU Cougars in provo. There is

623
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Speaker 2: a pass available, a pass available.

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Speaker 3: If we need.

625
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: If you don't know the answer, I'll reveal one of

626
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: the correct answers. Let's go over to Chris Perfett.

627
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we'll just make this easy.

628
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Speaker 2: Utah University of Utah show me the Utes there. They

629
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Speaker 2: are obviously based in Salt Lake City. Now is where

630
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Speaker 2: the fun begins.

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Speaker 1: Bo Benson, Utah State.

632
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: Utah State. Show me the Aggies of Utah State.

633
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: They were a ten seed in the NCAA Tournament, lost

634
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Speaker 2: to UCLA in the first round of the Midwest Region,

635
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Speaker 2: but they were in the dance over to Isaac Lohenkross.

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Speaker 8: I broadcast games at two of the harder schools in

637
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Speaker 8: this one.

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Speaker 7: So let's go with the Wolverines. Utah Valley.

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Speaker 2: Show me Utah Valley and beautiful Orum Utah Correct Isaac

640
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: got him Orham got him?

641
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: All right? Mike back around to you.

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00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: Pass is available Utah Valley.

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00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: Utah Valley is off the board.

644
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: We're looking for the top the seven Division one basketball

645
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Speaker 2: schools that are based in the state of.

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Speaker 1: Utah because I probably have no idea. I'm just gonna

647
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Speaker 1: go down the Utah. Uh, just use Utah as my base.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

649
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: And how about a tech show me Nickel College, show

650
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Speaker 1: me Utah Tech.

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Speaker 2: There they are the Trailblazer formerly Dixie State, changed their

652
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Speaker 2: name recently based in Saint George, Utah.

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Speaker 3: Utah Tech is correct.

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Speaker 1: But they were Dixie State. Yes, that's that's interesting. They

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Speaker 1: gave themselves a tech that is an interesting.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Twitch here in the tire rat.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I.

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Speaker 2: Love Mike's way of thinking because it was one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons why I'm like, oh, maybe this could work

661
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Speaker 2: if we go down that road. By the way, the

662
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Speaker 2: tease of sting. Utah is the Beehive state. So that's

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Speaker 2: why we are we are talking about the stead of Utah.

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Speaker 1: I'm learning so much about Utah.

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Speaker 3: All right, Chris Purfet.

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Speaker 6: Now I want to make this clear. I only know

667
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Speaker 6: this because I am in absolute degenerate when it comes

668
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Speaker 6: to college football and watch the FCS playoffs, and I

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Speaker 6: would like to shout out Weber State.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the judges. Are we going to

671
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Speaker 2: allow that? Show me Weber State? Weber Yes, weber home

672
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Speaker 2: of Damian Lillard. Yes, there you go, Ogden, Utah, Ogden, Utah,

673
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Speaker 2: home of the Weber State Wildcats. The pass is off

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Speaker 2: the board. Sorry, Bo Benson. Oh, no answer, one answer left,

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Speaker 2: no strikes. Perfect game. Nobody talked to Bo Benson. Right

676
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Speaker 2: now we have a perfect game on the line. Can

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Speaker 2: you give us the final answer?

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Speaker 1: Well, that perfect game is over. There's game. There's gotta

679
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Speaker 1: be a Loyola in Utah or something.

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Speaker 3: Christianity.

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Speaker 2: All right, show me Loyola of you No, actually is

682
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Speaker 2: it Loyola of Utah.

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Speaker 3: No, it is not.

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Speaker 2: I love the effort, though, going down the harmon way

685
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: of thinking Isaac Low and cron.

686
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Speaker 7: Well again, I've actually broadcast a game.

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Speaker 8: Yes, here we go the Thunderbirds of Southern Utah.

688
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Speaker 3: Show me s u U the Cedar City, Utah, Utah School.

689
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Speaker 7: They have a really good arena by the way.

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Speaker 2: Actually yeah, yes, past Cedar City, north of Saint George

691
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Speaker 2: by I don't know exactly how far it is. I

692
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Speaker 2: have a buddy who lives like in a town called Hurricane,

693
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Speaker 2: which is right before you go into Zion National Park.

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Speaker 2: But Cedar City is just north of there. You drive

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Speaker 2: past it as you go on your way to Salt

696
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Speaker 2: Lake City. So there it is your top seven answers.

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Speaker 2: You got them all. I just found it. I did

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Speaker 2: it on the heels of BYU's win last night against

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin in the second round of the NCAA Tournament, playing

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Speaker 2: in Denver. But I also think, Mike, it's one of

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Speaker 2: those schools that are one of those states that you

702
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Speaker 2: wouldn't think that there would be seven.

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Speaker 1: So seven Division one. I mean, this is where we

704
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Speaker 1: as you gave one of the clues though, right, you

705
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Speaker 1: start thinking about other sports, yes, and extrapolating from there

706
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Speaker 1: that it's not all we always default to football and basketball.

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Speaker 2: And Utah Tech like to think of Utah Obviously Chris

708
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Speaker 2: did one of the answers that was obvious, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: Utah Tech.

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Speaker 3: Weaber state Utah State.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we had the Valley Dan, That's where

712
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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, now, we're just gonna put

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Speaker 1: word association with Utah as a base I.

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Speaker 2: Will also say, because I do know Isaac's background of

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Speaker 2: calling games, that I felt that if push came to shove,

716
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Speaker 2: he also would know a couple of these Utah Valley

717
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Speaker 2: The Wolverines lost in the championship game to Grand Canyon

718
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Speaker 2: in the Whack Tournament, So I think Utah Valley actually

719
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Speaker 2: is in the NIT if they've already played.

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Speaker 7: But Mark Pope used to be their head coach by

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Speaker 7: the way.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, then obviously b YU and now at Kentucky.

723
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Speaker 1: Mark Pope getting his run because old shots of him

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Speaker 1: shooting free throw.

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Speaker 2: Tonna Harman's pull of Utah Tech was amazing, So job

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Speaker 2: well done.

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Speaker 1: Just think to Illinois. We got plenty of texts running around.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to hear a Utah A and m That's

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Speaker 3: what I wanted to hear.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe there's one still out there that we just

731
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Speaker 1: haven't ferreted out. All right, back into the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 1: in earnest with Dan, I'm Mike. This is Fox Greetings,

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Speaker 1: and welcome in hour two of the program. Today, a

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Speaker 1: beautiful Fox Sports Sunday with you action all over the

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Speaker 1: hard court from sun up to sundown, mixing some NBA,

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Speaker 1: mixing some preseason spring training baseball. I think the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: play again today.

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Speaker 3: They play real games, and then they come back and play.

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Speaker 1: Now they gotta play the Angels in one of those.

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Speaker 3: I suppose they need something they'll do until Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Give them a couple of days to stretch out. They

742
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Speaker 1: should have gotten back on the proper time zone and

743
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Speaker 1: all of that stuff at this point starting the season

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Speaker 1: two and zero. And you know me, with all my

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Speaker 1: South Side Chicago gear, watching the Cubs start zero and

746
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Speaker 1: two is always warms the heart for me. Dan Byer,

747
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Speaker 1: wait over under for the White Sox is fifty three

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Speaker 1: and a half, So every I'm taking, every Cub's loss

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Speaker 1: is a win for me as well. At dan Byer

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Speaker 1: women's side, we got Duke and Oregon getting after at

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Speaker 1: one point game eight minutes left in the third quarter.

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00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: It still is always jarring to see three Q up

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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: on a board, but we're talking college sports. And then

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Speaker 1: the one that we're keenly observing here and rapped attention

762
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Yukon and Florida go to the break tied at thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Danny Hurley we talked earlier last hour. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: right back into Rick Patino here in a minute, but

765
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Speaker 1: we talk about coaches and how they capture our attention.

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Speaker 1: And Danny Hurley one of those guys that is like

767
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: a WWE superstar, you don't know how to feel about him,

768
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: is a heel is you know face because if you

769
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Speaker 1: want to embrace the villain, because we're still in the

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Speaker 1: anti hero phase. I think of life, whether it's the

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift song or just television and movies. A guy

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Speaker 1: who you know, with Creighton at the end of the year,

773
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Speaker 1: was doing in the ring gesture of ah got Tune

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Speaker 1: and Blake you I'm the greatest coach there ever was,

775
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Speaker 1: And then they beat him.

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Speaker 3: He runs hot, yes he does, which is.

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Speaker 1: Kind of fun. I mean, I love the fiery nature

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Speaker 1: of it. But I also called on them to lose.

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Speaker 1: So I needed them to lose in Gonzaga, to lose

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Speaker 1: because then I look like I actually might know something.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the interesting thing is I actually think and

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm misremembering. But it was a week

783
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Speaker 2: ago when the bracket came out and when we were

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Speaker 2: talking about eight to nine seeds, I almost, in a

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Speaker 2: way felt we kind of just pushed Yukon to the

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Speaker 2: side a little bit. I don't think we were talking

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Speaker 2: about this matchup with Florida as much as we were

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Speaker 2: saying Louisville.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be playing.

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Speaker 2: In their backyard in Lexington, just down the road, an

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Speaker 2: hour and fifteen minutes away. Man, they could give Auburn

792
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Speaker 2: a run for their money. Well, they didn't even make

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Speaker 2: it past Creighton. And then to your point about Gonzega,

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00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: there are a lot of arguments that experts saying, Man, Gonzega.

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Speaker 2: I had them as a five seed, They won the

796
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: West Coast Conference tournament, playing really well metrics wise, there,

797
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Speaker 2: numbers look great, and they come in as an eight seed.

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Speaker 2: And when you talked about those eight to nine matchups,

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Speaker 2: I don't think we were talking about Yukon as much.

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Speaker 2: We were talking more about Louisville. We're talking about more

801
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Speaker 2: about Gonzaga. Now, neither of those schools in the tournament anymore.

802
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Speaker 2: Yukon has an opportunity to make it to a Sweet

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Speaker 2: sixteen again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I Gonzaga gave a nice late effort to get

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Speaker 1: you your push if you had them plus five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a chance to tie it at the end,

807
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Speaker 2: just couldn't they. Well, they got a shot off, it

808
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: just went right back into their face and then in

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Speaker 2: the hands of the Houston defense.

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Speaker 1: There you have it. But yeah, we're talking Hurley and

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Speaker 1: watching him, waiting to see, you know, the next explosion

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Speaker 1: on the official or if he get to a post

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Speaker 1: game at post loss, certainly there Florida second half five

814
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: and a half is your number for that one. As

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Speaker 1: the interested observers trying to figure out, you know, halftime

816
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Speaker 1: adjustments and what it all means as you flow through

817
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Speaker 1: last night. Obviously you know a lot coming off of

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Speaker 1: the Rick Patino John Caliperi matching matchup, and we got

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Speaker 1: to do the build up. We had the back page

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Speaker 1: of the New York Post and we gave it names

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Speaker 1: like we're putting together celebrities in a relationship and all

822
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Speaker 1: of those things. And we watched because here's thirty five

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Speaker 1: years of coaching, right, here's the names that we know

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Speaker 1: for this tournament. Look, a lot of celebration of Cooper

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00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: flag Duke and what they did round one, Like I

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Speaker 1: would have had him play in the layup line and

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Speaker 1: then sat him back down. But that's fine. You got

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Speaker 1: proof of concept that he's healthy and ready to go

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Speaker 1: as they get ready to advance, and a lot of brackets.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, it was like a quarter of

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Speaker 1: brackets had Duke winning it when it's all said done.

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Speaker 1: But Caliperi and Hurley and Patino or the three stars

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00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: along with tom Izzo and some of the old guard

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Speaker 1: that are still around, and we're learning some of these

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Speaker 1: new names, but also how they deal with stuff. Patino

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00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: helped I think a lot by some of the little

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Speaker 1: vignettes from the TV show that we're making the round,

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Speaker 1: and as we talked about last hour, check out the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you get your podcasts, you know a little bit

840
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Speaker 1: of nostalgia and knowing the names, knowing the history. Suddenly

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00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: in a new college age, we want the warm and

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00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: fuzzy feel of a familiar friend.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Mike and listen. It has been a great story,

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Speaker 2: and it's been a great story out of New York.

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Speaker 2: I will also say this, I think it is one

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00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: hundred percent fair. They're not cheap shots for people to

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00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: be critical of Patino, considering the background what happened at Louisville. Sure,

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Speaker 2: and now him back.

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Speaker 3: In the game. Now you can't.

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00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: You can't sit there and always talk about it. I

851
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: think like at some point you do have to move on.

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00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: But I think there was a little bit of when

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00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: they won the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference at IONA and

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Speaker 2: he got to the tournament, there was a little bit

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Speaker 2: of that. And then when I look at what happened

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00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: at Saint John's, this is the first real big success.

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00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: So it's fair if you wanted to go back and criticize.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I would say, though, is sometimes we

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00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: give Rick Patino maybe too much leeway. And I think

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00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: it was evidence in his postgame press conference yesterday when

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Speaker 2: he was asked about r J Lewis and Lewis not

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Speaker 2: playing what the final five minutes?

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Speaker 1: Five minutes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you missed it, this was the exchange

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Speaker 2: with the reporter after the game.

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Speaker 9: You had RJ on the bench, you know for a

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Speaker 9: pretty long stretch at the end.

868
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: Was that just because he just wasn't making him or

869
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: was there something more to it?

870
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 9: Played thirty minutes. It's a long time, so he was tired. No,

871
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 9: played thirty minutes and I went with other people.

872
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 4: You already know the answers. Roger, you're asking leading questions.

873
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 4: You already know it, So don't ask leading questions. Geordy

874
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: know why he didn't play?

875
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 9: Was there one play with RJ that made you sit

876
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 9: him the last five minutes?

877
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: You know he was three seventeen, You know he was

878
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 4: over three, So you're answering your home.

879
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna knock one of my players.

880
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: Okay, you did without doing it, but I would have

881
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: just kept leading him. Eventually you're getting a Colonel jessup

882
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: on the stay in moment.

883
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: I love it.

884
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: He was three for seventeen. I'm not gonna knock one

885
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: of my players. I kind of feel like you just did.

886
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: As soon as you gave the stat.

887
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 5: Lie.

888
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some question well about the way that

889
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: r J Lewis was handling himself. Get he's the star

890
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: player for Saint John's. But it's also the point of

891
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: Patino and I'm using air quotes to Mike here not

892
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: taking the bait and taking the high road of not

893
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: criticizing his player.

894
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: How soon we.

895
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: Forget this was February of twenty twenty four, Yes, last season,

896
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: just a season ago. Rick Patino talking about his team

897
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: after a loss.

898
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: We are so non athletic that we can't guard anybody

899
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 4: without fouling. I don't think they move well laterally. I

900
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: don't think they're gonna pick it up in the next week.

901
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 4: I take this slow laterally. I mean on Conway gives

902
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 4: you everything he can. He's slow laterally. About five guys

903
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: of slow laterally. Even even the Celtics when we lost,

904
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: I've enjoyed every minute being a bus and Celtic coach

905
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: didn't like the fact that we lost in that following year.

906
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 4: But this has been the most unenjoyable experience I've had

907
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: since I've been coaching.

908
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 9: Do you have any second thoughts of taking this job. No,

909
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 9: not at all. It's not Saint John's my team.

910
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: I think they're very respectful they here, but they don't

911
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: It's taken me a month to get them to throw

912
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: bounce passes, actually two months to throw bounce passes. Just

913
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: thinking of getting ready for Georgetown because George Young could

914
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: definitely beat us.

915
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 9: I'm not even thinking of the future at all.

916
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of the next game and the next game,

917
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: in the next game, and that's it.

918
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: Oh so rich.

919
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 2: So that was thirteen months ago, So like, let's let's

920
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: be real of Patino, not of taking the high road.

921
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: Considering I also think he threw R. J. Lewis under

922
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 3: the back.

923
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he really did Dan. I think he

924
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: goes back to door fans.

925
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 9: Kevin McHale's not walking through that door, and Robert Parrish

926
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 9: is not walking through that dog.

927
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: I think he took a line from the nineteen eighty

928
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: eight classic by the great Keith Whitley. Now, a lot

929
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: of it is a love and a hug and whatever.

930
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: But you say it best when you say nothing at all.

931
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: And he didn't say nothing. He gave you the three

932
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: for seventeen, so he gave you just a little nugget.

933
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: He didn't go full on the stand screaming yeah I

934
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: ordered a Code red, but he did. Now the curiosity,

935
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: and this is where if I'm the reporters, I don't

936
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: let it go because I want to know it's like,

937
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: is it because he's a ball stopper and at this

938
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: point he's become a chucker. So you're not getting the

939
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: extra passes and creating more offensive There's a guy that

940
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: averaged eighteen points for you a game.

941
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's and it's also a scenario where everything's

942
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: gone right for them this year. Sure, and now you

943
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 2: have a bit of adversity, and maybe the young kid

944
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: doesn't respond in the way that you would hope. It's

945
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: a coaching moment, and I think that I think that

946
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: there was some coaching in that. It's just funny. I'm

947
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: not calling Patino a hypocrite, but I am calling him

948
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: a hypocrite, at least in that sort of realm. Because

949
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: it was just thirteen months ago when we found out

950
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: Sean Conway can't move laterally, and five other guys on

951
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: the Saint John's team at that time also could not

952
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: move laterally. So that was fine, That was fine in

953
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: saying that this was the most miserable you've been coaching basketball.

954
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: That was fine a year ago. But yesterday he wasn't

955
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 2: gonna throw his players under the bus.

956
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: Okay?

957
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: Is it because a year ago, maybe only a few

958
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: of us would have really paid attention to what Rick

959
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: had to say.

960
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, and it.

961
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: Didn't matter because they weren't playing for any high stakes.

962
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: They didn't have the heart's minds and imagination. Spike Lee

963
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: didn't get all that brand new gear. Yeah, they gifted

964
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: to them a year ago.

965
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: Didn't make the tournament. Last year, we're on the outside

966
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: looking in of the bubble. The bubble burst for them

967
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: last year. So yeah, I think all of that is

968
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: all of that is fair. It was a great run

969
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: this year, regular season champions, Big East Tournament champions, all

970
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: of that. But NCAA tournament comes to an end, and

971
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: I think you saw r J. Lewis react like that

972
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: because yeah, everything went right for them this year, it

973
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: just didn't yesterday against starting.

974
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: It's funny, you know, you look at it at different levels,

975
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: and not to make it about you know, kids and

976
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: youth sports, but you know, my kids on a soccer

977
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: club and they've had a change of a coach, hadn't

978
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: experienced that. So some are handling it really well. Some

979
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: are not, right r J. Lewis getting some tough coaching

980
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: or and we watched this at all levels, right. That

981
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: was part of the conversation of Kyler Murray, part of

982
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: the conversations of like, all all the guys that have

983
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: great success get all sorts of awards and then all

984
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, wait a minute, this is hard. This

985
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: is different, right, the kid who gets all straight a's

986
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: and then suddenly calculus kicks his ass, yes, and they

987
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: don't handle it well, or they go into a pressure

988
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: situation like a standardized test, when everything else is completely

989
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: dependent on did I study enough versus here's a giant

990
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge. Let's see how you do when you

991
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: can't really study for something pacifically. And you know with

992
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray obviously the video games and all the

993
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: jokes that rant with that, but look at top ten

994
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: pick in baseball, number one pick in the NFL, and

995
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: suddenly it doesn't translate and it becomes a well, you

996
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: got to change how you approach games and how you're

997
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: doing things if you don't have that hard game. And

998
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: for Saint John's, it was a pretty easy slug, right,

999
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: pretty easy run. And that's where some of the metrics

1000
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: I guess bore out. If you really dove deep into

1001
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: the y, I shouldn't pick Saint John's.

1002
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 2: Yes, it was there for you, Yes, I know it. Yes,

1003
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: And I didn't believe in Saint John's. I actually had

1004
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: Kansas beating Saint John's in the second round. It ended

1005
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: up being Arkansas. Kansas said there another another The opposite

1006
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: of the Saint john season is what happened to camp I.

1007
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: Didn't get sucked into him this year, though self didn't

1008
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: get me this time.

1009
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: Dab oh Man, I think he's glad the season is over,

1010
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and I think that some

1011
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: of what Patino was probably dealing with yesterday was also

1012
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: that for as great as it was, it is now over.

1013
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: So let's take the thirty thousand foot view. You watch

1014
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: this closely, live and die with some of the forty

1015
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: minutes of hell. So through three days of this tournament.

1016
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: I find it interesting and we're hearing this narrative that

1017
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: I believe is one hundred percent correct, and.

1018
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: It is the.

1019
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: Power conferences, the nil rich schools having great success in

1020
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: this tournament, and it's why the tournament was not or

1021
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 2: has not lived up to the Cinderella billings that were

1022
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: usually accustomed to. For those that may have missed it,

1023
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: this is after the first round. Multiple bid leagues. This

1024
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: is their record. Big Ten eight, NO, Big twelve, six

1025
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: and one, SEC eight and six, Big East four and two,

1026
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: ACC two and three, West Coast Conference two and O

1027
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: Mountain West two and two. I think I got everyone there,

1028
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: So that's seven multi bid leagues. The Big ten was

1029
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 2: eight no, and the Big two twelve was six and one.

1030
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: The SEC won eight of their fourteen games. The wins yesterday,

1031
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: Mike on the brackets from the SEC, the Big Ten,

1032
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: the Big twelve, the SEC, the Big twelve, the Big twelve,

1033
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: the Big ten and the SEC. And everybody's right, Yes,

1034
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: mid majors are getting killed because of NIL and the

1035
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: transfer portal, and they're better players moving up. That is

1036
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: one hundred percent correct. But the damning part about this

1037
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: and why this should be a situation where sirens go

1038
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: off in everyone's head. We're on the verge of expanding

1039
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: this tournament, and the conversation and expanding the tournament to

1040
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: seventy six is let's have more at large bids, eight

1041
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: more at large bids and then we can have a

1042
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: mix of schools. Well, when you see these records, why

1043
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 2: in the world would you have a mix of schools?

1044
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that's most damning to me and

1045
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: killing Cinderella. It's not only and everybody is correct and

1046
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: saying that NIL and the transfer portal is weak in

1047
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: the mid majors. It's now the fact of why would

1048
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: the committee ever give them a bid?

1049
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 3: Again?

1050
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: In terms of if you're on the borderline of a

1051
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 2: North Carolina and say a UC Irvine. When you see

1052
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: the success of these schools, Heck, the Big Ten when

1053
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 2: eight to zero in the first round of the NCAA Tournament,

1054
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: and they had two schools who were two of the

1055
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: three that were on the outside looking in, So it

1056
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: could even have been maybe better. And that's the part

1057
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: where I think it's it's so tricky is when you're

1058
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: looking at, you know, a Mountain West team and saw

1059
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 2: Utah State or get crushed by UCLA like they did.

1060
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: They only have New Mexico and Colorado State still remaining.

1061
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: When you're looking at the bracket and where they are,

1062
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: like why would the San Diego State gets killed by

1063
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: North Carolina in the first four, You're like, Okay, why

1064
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: are we giving four bids to the Mountain West Conference

1065
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: right now when obviously the strength of college basketball is

1066
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: in these other leagues. That's what I find more damning

1067
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: is as if this league expands, it's just going to

1068
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: be eight power conference schools. And that's what's really gonna

1069
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: kill Cinderella is they're not going to be getting bids

1070
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: anymore because of this lack of success.

1071
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: All Right, I have two things off at first, Look,

1072
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: I want more TV shows. Yeah, so give me more games,

1073
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: more more players. And I referenced it last hour, and

1074
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: I think it's appropriate. Here is you know, we're we're

1075
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: talking about Cinderella and trying to find those upsets anything else,

1076
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: and then we're watching the top heavy women's side where

1077
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: the games are so non competitive, like you don't even

1078
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: have a five minute spurt where you're like, hey, they

1079
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: were able to stay with them on the court. Right

1080
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: for Yukon, for I mean, Iowa won by what thirty

1081
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: eight or something like that. That's after Kate Martin and

1082
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark are gone left. Right, so like a juju,

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00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: Watkins is playing with a hurt ankle, a hurt wrist

1084
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: and everything else, and the USC still bludgeons.

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00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 2: USC one seventy one to twenty five yesterday, right your point,

1086
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: Yukon one one oh three to thirty four.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't try to play really in the fourth quarter.

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00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's yes, but I.

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Speaker 1: Mean just talking about the disparity. And on the men's side,

1090
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: we're watching that chasm grow. Now in the end, it's

1091
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: all about how many butts in seats and what you

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00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: can do TV wise, more true, TV more, more opportunity,

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00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: So you'll take that. I think, even if it's a

1094
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: shell acking, to just get the opportunity to be part

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00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: of the program.

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00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: I think everybody loves Cinderella, and I think I don't

1097
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: want to speak for you, but I I sure do.

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00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: I love to see these upsets. I love to see

1099
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: buzzer beaters. Unfortunately, the close games we've seen guys misshots.

1100
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: You see San Diego, you know yesterday Wisconsin BYU same thing.

1101
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: We haven't seen so many make a shot outside of

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00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: the first four in Dayton with Alabama State. But it's

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00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: the fact of if you're the committee, because I felt

1104
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: that the committee a few years ago actually favored the

1105
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: Mountain West and we're giving them. We're getting five and

1106
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: six schools from the Mountain West, and then they weren't

1107
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 2: fit well in the tournament. So you're wondering, well, how

1108
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: really strong is that league? And I think when you

1109
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: have a big ten, go eight to no in your

1110
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: first round games, that tells you that the landscape has changed.

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00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: Nil and transfer portal are absolutely reasons. And then you're

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00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: saying yourself, well, then why would I give a school

1113
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: a benefit of the doubt just because you and I

1114
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: love Cinderella, they're gonna be like, we need to give

1115
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: it to the worthy schools. And I think you saw

1116
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: that with like Indiana and Ohio State being the second

1117
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: team out and the third team out of the tournament.

1118
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: And I think that's what you're going to see more of.

1119
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe you would see U see Irvine getting that,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the field of seventy six, because they're

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00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: going to say, guess what, there's three other schools in

1122
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 2: the Big twelve that maybe we could have put in.

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00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: And that's what's really going to change college basketball.

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00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: So next year, sixteen SEC teams it. Mike, Yeah, yeah,

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00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: sounds crazy. But you also mentioned killing Cinderella. You know,

1126
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: there's a whole subculture of horror films based on in

1127
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: an intellectual property that's kind of gone and gone south.

1128
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: So you got a Winnie to Pooh or franchise, you

1129
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: got you know, Mickey Mouse and Steamboat Willie. I guess

1130
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: we can have a Killing Cinderella. Maybe we're making a

1131
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: murder Mystery full season event. How about that. I'm down

1132
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: there you go at Dan Byron Fox where you find

1133
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: and find me over at Swollen Dome. As we continue

1134
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: here it's Fox Sports Sunday, we take a turn to

1135
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: the National Football League. When you have a meeting for

1136
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: six hours, do I just assume at the end we

1137
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: had a good time, or did we really just exhaust

1138
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: everything and go our separate ways. We'll talk about what

1139
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: transpires going forward in the National Football League as we

1140
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: continue on Fox Sports Sunday. I don't know that they count,

1141
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: but maybe Cinderella still has a slipper you gon thirty

1142
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: eight thirty two early moments of the second half. Hey man, desperation.

1143
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes we need a champion, We need a hero to

1144
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: rise up. He's Dan Byer, I'm by Carbon. It's Fox

1145
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,759
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1146
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1148
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1149
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1150
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,839
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1151
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1152
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00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app

1154
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: and it'll always pop up at the top of your screen.

1155
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: Remember that makes us a global entity. Here Dan Byer

1156
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: evangelizing to the world.

1157
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: I love it. We can hear there, it everywhere. I

1158
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: had a buddy who's listening to us in Iowa this morning.

1159
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: They think they could be on the verge of getting

1160
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: a new men's basketball coach. We shall see.

1161
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: And now you've got family in the Midwest. I've got

1162
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: family in the Midwest. I've got a.

1163
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: Buddy that can hear us stationed overseas in Japan. So

1164
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: that's pretty awesome.

1165
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it continues to grow, And obviously we appreciate you evangelizing.

1166
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: We appreciate you being part of the network, the extended

1167
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: family here at Fox Sports Radio, all the shows, all

1168
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: the personalities, all the opinions and fights that come through

1169
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: over the twenty four to seven cycle that we have here.

1170
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: But it is not lost all the options that you

1171
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: have out there, audio, video, et cetera. So thanks for

1172
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: taking us with you wherever you're going on a Sunday

1173
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: to and from services walking the dog, maybe you're sitting

1174
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: down to a nice brunch, maybe you've got a nice

1175
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: mimosa that's coming out for the second half. I don't know,

1176
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: it could be one of many things. Wherever and however

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Speaker 1: you're listening, we thank you and we appreciate your time

1178
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I was there last week, dan Byer, wandering around.

1179
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: I got to go walk past Acre sure and hang

1180
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: out a little bit. And no, I don't no, no,

1181
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: I kept its curious. Well, you know, it was a

1182
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: trip for the kid for potential future schooling, so just

1183
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: kind of getting the lay of the land and driving

1184
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: around the area. But for Pittsburgh being one of the

1185
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: hotbeds this week because we were still in the silly

1186
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: season of this NFL offseason, waiting on the draft and

1187
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: starting to see more and more mock drafts. Now guys

1188
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: are getting out to four and five rounds. It's really

1189
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: an enterprise that has changed. It used to be the

1190
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: one round, yes, and here we'll do our best dart

1191
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: throwing down and now we're up to four.

1192
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

1193
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: Bete Schrager, who a lot of people know from Good

1194
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: Morning Football way back when for foxsports dot Com when

1195
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: he wrote for them, would do a seven rounder. He

1196
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: would do a seven rounder. But I knew very few people.

1197
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: He was the only one that actually I remember back

1198
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: then doing a seven rounder. And now it's more and

1199
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: more second third round picks because draft has become that

1200
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: more popular. Heck, when the Seahawks made a deal with

1201
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers to trade them DK Metcalf, they picked up

1202
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: a second round pick. So I am now all in

1203
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: on the second round, Mox because they've got two second rounders.

1204
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: Add that extra second rounder, maybe you decide to wheel

1205
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: and deal, turn that into more picks and multiply like

1206
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: the Gremlins, if you got him wet. I do remember

1207
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: that movie, there you go. It was scarier when I

1208
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: was older. Oh, it's a terrifying film. Now they're making

1209
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: another one, but terrifying. And then you go watch the

1210
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: knockoff Ghoolies, which had a whole other again think churchy

1211
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: thoughts the opposite. It's kind of side to it, really creepy.

1212
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Speaker 2: I also felt like Gremlins had a side deal with

1213
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: whether it was like heart E's or Carls Junior or

1214
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: like another fast food chain back in the day where

1215
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: you could get Gremlins stuff.

1216
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Speaker 1: I don't remember that.

1217
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: Remember what I'm gonna have to go back and remember

1218
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: when movie franchises would team up with like a national children.

1219
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I felt. I felt that Gremlins was one

1220
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 3: of them.

1221
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Speaker 1: One of my favorites was The Batman returns. And then

1222
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: they realized how dark the Tim Burtons second one was

1223
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: with the Catwoman and the penguin. Uh, the toys weren't

1224
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: in the McDonald's. Let's change it to something happier and fuzzier.

1225
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: This is too dark, this is too weird. She's wearing that. Yeah, yeah,

1226
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: just they're own Hamburgler stuff. But even go back to

1227
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: the seventies of that. I've been posting some some of

1228
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: those commercials showing up from the seventies on my Instagram

1229
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: at smalling' dome, Like that's a whole other world. It's

1230
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: like hr puffin stuff come to your local McDonald's for advertising.

1231
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: But all that to say so Pittsburgh, they didn't have

1232
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: me in for a meeting for their quarterback job, but

1233
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: evidently talked to Aaron Rodgers for some six hours about

1234
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: the job the opportunities. Look, I think you mentioned DK

1235
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: metcalf showing up there. Doesn't it smack if Arthur Smith

1236
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson can coexist at all? Doesn't that look

1237
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: like the team you want? If Pickens and DK Metcalf

1238
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: are running deepot.

1239
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it sure tells us. I think it

1240
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: tells us more about their feelings about Russell Wilson than

1241
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. In fact, I wonder if that's six hour meeting,

1242
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: if five hours of it were just ripping on Russell Wilson,

1243
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: because we know Aaron Rodgers doesn't like him. It doesn't

1244
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: seem to be warm up to him or buy into

1245
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's stick. So I wonder if that was the case.

1246
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: But if that was in the case, I actually think

1247
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: it's a sad state of affairs for the Pittsburgh Steelers, right.

1248
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: This is a proud franchise, and I get letting Ben

1249
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger play out the final years of his career for

1250
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: what he did for that organization for the previous what

1251
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: fifteen years prior. I mean, Ben couldn't throw the ball

1252
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: ten yards down the field, but they were still throwing

1253
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: them out there.

1254
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: I get it.

1255
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: That's Loyalty's that's maybe out well, Hey, that's the Steelers,

1256
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: that's how they do things. But for them to I

1257
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: don't know, acquiesce to Russ, to Aaron Rodgers in a

1258
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: way where he flirts with the Vikings. Then the Vikings

1259
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: tell him they don't want him. So then he calls

1260
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: the Steelers for you know, a late night stand, and

1261
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, come on over, Like, what are we

1262
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: doing here?

1263
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 3: Steelers have some you know what?

1264
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the final roundtable with these veteran quarterbacks, including one

1265
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: who's not even on the radar, who's being dragged back

1266
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: into the radar after sitting out twenty twenty four, when

1267
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: we talk about the Vikings, the Browns, and the Steelers,

1268
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,479
Speaker 1: where we say the giants are in their own little

1269
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: holding pattern over here, bringing in Jamis Winston and you

1270
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: know Tommy Cuttlet's still there and potentially Shadoor Sanders, Like

1271
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: all the bluster for weeks of all these quarterbacks are

1272
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: gonna fall. It's like you just decided you needed copy.

1273
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: We know quarterbacks are going at the top of the

1274
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: draft now, it's just a question of whether Jackson Dart

1275
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: joins them or not. Teams are going to trade up,

1276
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: Teams are gonna go get quarterbacks. That's it's nature's law

1277
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: at this point. It's as we joke about on the

1278
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: evening show Smith and I with our producer Justin Prosberg,

1279
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: it's science that's just the way it works. People go

1280
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: get their quarterbacks. But looking at these veteran options, and

1281
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill's name has been brought out now from Minnesota

1282
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: as a potential stop gap if JJ McCarthy's not ready.

1283
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: I remind folks that you had the Brett Farv arriving

1284
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: to Minnesota didn't happen un till mid August. So any

1285
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: of the we're out on Aaron Rodgers. I think all

1286
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: these teams are just kind of trying to play a

1287
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: game of poker with each other. Of all right, we're

1288
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: trying to force a move here, but we really is

1289
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: there any reason that they need to be in the

1290
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: building right now? No, there's no activity you need to

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Speaker 1: know by the end of a yerl.

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Speaker 2: In Minnesota for their you know, for all intents and purposes.

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Speaker 2: They also said that they are going to add that veteran.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they completely closed the door on Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Tannehill was was sure, odd, you're smeck dead on right

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Speaker 2: with the Giants and what they're going to do. But

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Speaker 2: just I just to bring it back to Pittsburgh, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I just don't get it. They so they don't like

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson so much that they aren't bringing him back,

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Speaker 2: when they had said all offseason they're not going to

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Speaker 2: bring both Fields and Wilson back, but they may bring

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Speaker 2: one back. They brought back Mason Rudolph, who led them

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Speaker 2: to that late playoff surge in twenty twenty three, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a surge. He just

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Speaker 2: they ended up making the playoffs that year and Mason

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Speaker 2: Rudolph was the quarterback down the stretch. But they're telling

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Speaker 2: me that that went better in twenty twenty three than

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Speaker 2: what happened in twenty twenty four, and it's it's just

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Speaker 2: it's a damn and indictment. I think they'd like to

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Speaker 2: have Rogers. I think that they would also be okay

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Speaker 2: with having Mason Rudolph. They don't want Russell Wilson. But

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Speaker 2: it's just it's sad to me to see Pittsburgh go

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Speaker 2: the route of again having Aaron Rodgers over for a

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Speaker 2: one night stand after the girl that Rogers wanted to

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Speaker 2: be with.

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Speaker 3: They don't want.

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Speaker 2: Him, and it's it's just it's sad to see the

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Speaker 2: Steelers get to that level.

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Speaker 1: But that's where we've been, you know, running in place,

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Speaker 1: just good enough to be on the fringe of a playoff,

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Speaker 1: but not really ever a contender. When when was the

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Speaker 1: last time we considered them a contender? Like I'm real contender, yes,

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Speaker 1: Like even the towards the end when Roethlisberger had that

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Speaker 1: run when twelve oh or.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, nobody bought it no correct.

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Speaker 1: Right, and all these years, I guess it's the devil

1327
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: you know and the devil you don't, right. You know

1328
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: what Russell Wilson is with Arthur Smith, Aaron Rodgers, you know,

1329
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 1: the reputation, you know whatever. Ex teammates don't speak ill

1330
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: of him, just has run ins with management and says

1331
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: some things on talk shows and podcasts, and look there's folks,

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Speaker 1: I mean Michael Keaton again. Batman comes back up big,

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01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: big and political things in Pittsburgh. But he's also asking

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01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: questions about old interviews with Rogers, like if we're going

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: to bring this guy in, like I don't want him

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Speaker 1: representing us with unless he clarifies this view, that view,

1337
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: the other view. You guys can all go into it.

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01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: It's a political thing, but it's just interesting. You've got

1339
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: celebrity fans raising their hand going forget about him being

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01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I may not want this guy for the

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Speaker 1: guy he is, yes, which is a different way of

1342
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: looking at things.

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Speaker 2: If the day that Aaron Rodgers is released by the Jets,

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01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: if the Steelers have a meeting with him and visit

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01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: with him and he wants to be there, I'm all

1346
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: good with it. It's everything that has transpired afterwards, and

1347
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: for them to almost almost might seemingly be begging for

1348
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers to come play for them, and I just

1349
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: think that that's a sad state of affairs.

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01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: No question about it. Hey, be sure to check out

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Speaker 1: Search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube see a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: we look in and torment each other in the studios,

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Speaker 1: and of course all the great hot takes that flow

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Speaker 1: from the mouths of these Fox Sports Radio hosts at

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Speaker 1: Dan Byron Fox where you find them find me over

1363
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Speaker 1: at Swollen Dome coming up. We'll wrap things up with

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01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: a little look at the day ahead for college buckets

1365
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: and maybe a little more NFL. But first it's Isaac

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Speaker 1: Lowen chrome to give us an update of what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Cinderella still at the ball.

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Speaker 8: Cinderella is thriving in Round two of the NCAA Tournament

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01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 8: because the defending champion Yukon Huskies somehow, despite starting three

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Speaker 8: out of seventeen from the field today, they've got a

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Speaker 8: forty three to forty one lead over one seed Florida

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Speaker 8: with fourteen oh one remaining in the second half.

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Speaker 7: Despite as I said.

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Speaker 8: Opening the game shooting three out of seventeen from the field.

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Speaker 8: Florida's Elijah Martin leeds all scores in the contest, with

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Speaker 8: fourteen points coming up after that at twelve excuse me,

1377
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 8: at two to forty Eastern time, it will be one

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01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 8: seed Duke going up against nine seed Baylor. And we

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 8: have some breaking college basketball news. Multiple outlets just reporting

1380
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 8: that Texas has fired head men's basketball coach Rodney Terry

1381
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 8: after two and a half seasons, three NCBLEA Tournament appearances,

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 8: including the Elite eight in twenty twenty three. This season,

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 8: Texas lost in the first four to Xavier on Wednesday.

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01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 8: Also round two in the NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament. Right now,

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 8: three seed Notre Dame leading six seed Michigan thirty four

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01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 8: to twenty five and a half left to play in

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Speaker 8: the second quarter, and two seed do holding on to

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01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 8: a one point lead over ten seed Oregon forty nine

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Speaker 8: to forty eight with four point fifty seven remaining in

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Speaker 8: the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Guys, back to you, thanks so much. And Isaac Lohan

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01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: cron where you find him as you roll through at

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01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 1: dan Byer on Fox Find me over at Swollen Dome. Also,

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Speaker 1: we've got all the other socials, but Texas making a

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: big move. We can to see the coaching carousel not

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Speaker 1: in here.

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily shocked, curious to see if this will put

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01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: a pause on other hirings, because the Texas job will

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: likely rise to the occasion above all of the other vacancies.

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Speaker 2: It also tells you this, Remember Chris Beard was let

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Speaker 2: go by Texas because of what was a domestic instance

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01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: at that time. Ended up moving on from him at

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01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 2: that point, and I don't think anything came of that

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Speaker 2: domestic incident. He was also in a time where a

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01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: lot of stuff was sensitive. Chris Beard's playing for a

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: spot on the Sweet sixteen today for Ole Miss against

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Speaker 2: Iowa State. So in just when you're looking at the

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01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 2: timing of things, Chris Beard is probably gonna win at

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01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: Texas and it ended up not turning out. Now he's

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01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: at ole Miss and could be advancing in the tournament

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Speaker 2: while Texas is looking for Terry's replacement.

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Speaker 1: The mad world of college athletics will keep an eye

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01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: on the coaching carousel. You mentioned the Iowa story. I'm

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01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: seeing that showing up in the Twitter timeline as well,

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: so we'll keep an eye on that. But as we

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Speaker 1: wrap things up, we've got a little more on the

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01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 1: nc DOUBLEA Tournament and the week ahead. He's Dan, I'm Mike,

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: and this is Fox Sports Sunday. Hey, welcome back in.

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Hartman and VJ

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01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: coming up in about ten minutes as we're getting ready

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01:10:55,560 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: for a big day of NZAA basketball action, some spring

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: training baseball still out there, some NBA and we got

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Speaker 1: some golf rolling on.

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Speaker 2: What is the Valvespar val SPA Championship. Yes, Tampa area.

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: Xander Schoffley putting together a heck of a round. Justin

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: Thomas in contention a group of players at seven under,

1427
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 2: including Victor Hovland who's.

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 3: Always working on his game. And it comes in streaks

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01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 3: at times with Victor.

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01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 2: And it's a very tough course. I've never played it,

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01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: but by all accounts very difficult. That's why you only

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01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: see scoring right now seven under after three rounds.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I have to head down there. My folks

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01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: are just outside Tampa. Yeah, and you can go. I

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01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: can go watch you play, because nobody wants me on

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Speaker 1: a golf course right now. Hey, Tractor Supply knows that

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Speaker 1: a few acres, our team members will help you succeed

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Speaker 1: with that twenty five hundred is buried in what I

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Speaker 1: just said, Chicken Coop, It's time you see the price

1450
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: of eggs. Dan Fires filled that chicken. All right, So

1451
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: let's let's look at this game right here. Let's close

1452
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: right here with the game. We've talked about Danny Hurley

1453
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, and over the course of the season

1454
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: we've certainly look he's been one of the few stories

1455
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 1: that cut through in the college basketball world, right a

1456
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: lot of Koper Flag, a lot of NCAA and the Stars,

1457
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: Hannah Hildalgo and Juju Watkins and Page Becker's and some

1458
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 1: of those, But for the men's side, it then would

1459
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: get right to Danny Hurley. And then eventually Rick Patino

1460
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: became this thing as the season went on, and for

1461
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: Danny Hurley, it wasn't always positive because this is a

1462
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: team that is not like all those other iterations where

1463
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, they're a powerhouse and they're going

1464
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: to run through and here they are this year. Some struggles,

1465
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: a lot of outbursts at officials, at fans, everything else.

1466
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: But now he's got Florida on the ropes to the

1467
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: eight seed, Husky's fifty forty four, still ten minutes to play,

1468
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: a lot of basketball to be played. But you want

1469
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: to talk about a resume building potential, run here right

1470
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: for Danny Hurley, a guy and a couple of titles,

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 1: and this a year where I was like, all right,

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01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: let's see how far he can take them and can

1473
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: they overachieve? Not often you have a two time defending

1474
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: champion where it's like, can they overachieve the squad that

1475
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: he's put out this year?

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: And some people even felt that the eighth seed was

1477
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 2: overachieving for what they put on no Art and what

1478
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: they ended up achieving with. Now, maybe some of the

1479
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: metrics would be different, but yeah, Yukon was a team

1480
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: that I think we all expected more from and Mike,

1481
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 2: I find it funny because it doesn't happen with all

1482
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 2: of these coaches. But Danny Hurley is a great coach

1483
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: and can show us two national championships and even said

1484
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: when they lost in the first round in twenty twenty two,

1485
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: it basically turned on a light bulb in his brain

1486
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: of what he needed to do with his team and

1487
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: the results since then have been magnificent. But isn't the ultimate,

1488
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: the ultimate test of a coach to do it when

1489
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: you don't have the best talent, And he's had the

1490
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 2: best talent the last two years and this team isn't

1491
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: that case. And I think that it's if he gets this,

1492
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: this may be a win over Florida, and a deep

1493
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 2: run in this tournament could be more important to his

1494
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 2: legacy than even one of those national championships. I look

1495
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: at Tom Izzo like we think, like Izzo is amazing,

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01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: and he's got a national championship. His best team was

1497
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: that national championship team in two thousand.

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 3: They were awesome.

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Speaker 2: They mop Yes, Charlie Bell, Yeah, absolutely a great, great squad.

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: But I also think what made Izo iso is that

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01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: even when he was a two seed or a seven

1502
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: seed or whatever, you didn't want to face him because

1503
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: you knew he was gonna be able to do something.

1504
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 2: And I kind of feel like this could this could

1505
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: be a Dan Hurley sort of moment. I Meanzo still

1506
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 2: only got the one champion tick, and they would make

1507
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: it the final fours, ton of final fours, and they

1508
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: would have good players. But I think that for sometimes

1509
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 2: what they did with less helps solidify who they were

1510
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: because we always felt Callum Patino got the best players.

1511
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: But now this would be quite quite a resume builder

1512
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: for Danny Hurley, if if he even needs a resume building.

1513
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: It's funny because you bring back coach cal right because

1514
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: that was always it. Well, he had the best players

1515
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: and didn't finish, so the reputation as a coach didn't

1516
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: match the level of respect we had as a recruiter

1517
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: while questioning what was behind door number two with every

1518
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: recruiting class that came in. Let's just be honest about it,

1519
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: which is why you know the sudden redemptive arc for

1520
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: him and to Rick Patino is really a curiosity. Izzo

1521
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: still trading on the one title kind of reminds us

1522
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: of the Steelers to a degree. It just keeps going

1523
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be good enough to be competitive and

1524
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: maybe we break through. But for Danny Hurley, you get

1525
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: a third title or a Final four run, even it's

1526
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: a whole next level for him.

1527
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 3: We brought a full circle in today's show.

1528
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: There you Go, feel like I'm standing still. There you go.

1529
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: Jeff Healy Band at Dan Byron Fox at Swollen Dome

1530
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: enjoy the games, folks. We'll talk to you during the week.