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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Thursday, April ninth, and well,

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Speaker 1: I guess we saw this one coming. Woman falls off

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Speaker 1: my wife went overboard. And when you know that husband

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Speaker 1: has now been arrested, and with that, welcome to this

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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 2: Robes. This has been days and days of building.

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Speaker 1: You hear the story, you hear the details, and we

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Speaker 1: all thought, yeah, this is a true crime story episode

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Speaker 1: waiting to happen, and sure enough, here we are.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this unfortunately wasn't too hard to see coming, especially

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Speaker 3: when you have the daughter of the missing woman speaking

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Speaker 3: out about her stepfather and getting very specific about her

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Speaker 3: suspicions based on past behavior where she claims he had

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Speaker 3: been violent towards his mother and even had threatened to

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Speaker 3: throw her overboard. So yes, she on a media campaign

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Speaker 3: of sorts, which honestly very commendable and brave of her.

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Speaker 3: She just once her mom went missing, she actually showed

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Speaker 3: and let a lot of folks listen to this voicemail

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Speaker 3: from her stepdad and said, yeah, this I don't believe

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Speaker 3: is an accident, and she actually called for the investigation

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Speaker 3: that had taken place and now, yes, it looks like

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Speaker 3: her stepfather is officially under arrest.

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Speaker 1: So we'll take you back here. What we talking about

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Speaker 1: is Lynnette Hooker. This is a fifty five year old

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Speaker 1: woman from Michigan who has been missing since last Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And the story was that she had gone out with

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Speaker 1: her husband, Bryant. They'd gone out in a dingy eight

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Speaker 1: foot dingy, so a small boat, but hard bottom boat.

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Speaker 1: And this was both of them experienced folks who are

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Speaker 1: out there on the sea. They are experienced at doing this.

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Speaker 1: So she goes missing. He comes back and claims she

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Speaker 1: fell over some kind of way. She had the keys

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Speaker 1: to this dingy with her in her pocket. So the

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Speaker 1: engine shuts off, he can't control it and he has

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Speaker 1: to paddle his way back some hours later. And that's

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Speaker 1: the story he told Robes when he got back. Everybody

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Speaker 1: heard that story and immediately called bullshit on that story.

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Speaker 1: But who didn't do so were authorities who took him

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Speaker 1: at his word, and at least Robes publicly, we're saying

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Speaker 1: this is a search and rescue operation and he was

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Speaker 1: not a suspect.

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Speaker 3: That's true. This all happened. Think about it. We're now

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Speaker 3: here on Thursday morning. This happened Saturday night. They took

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Speaker 3: off at seven thirty pm. I believe by the time

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Speaker 3: he paddled his way back to shore it was around

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Speaker 3: four am on Sunday. So yeah, we're talking four full

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Speaker 3: days of yes, searching for Lynnette, who they still have

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Speaker 3: not found somewhere in the Caribbean Sea, and saying that yes,

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Speaker 3: Brian was not a suspect, that they were not looking

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Speaker 3: at him. He was not considered in any way a

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Speaker 3: part of this investigation until now where he has been

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Speaker 3: officially arrested. And I have to think that this woman,

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Speaker 3: Lynette's daughter, had to play a significant role. She filled

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Speaker 3: in so many holes in the story because if it

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Speaker 3: weren't for her, what do they have to go on.

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Speaker 3: You got a guy who claims something happened where there

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Speaker 3: is no other version to compete with his.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can't arrest the guy just because the daughter

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Speaker 1: is pissed. They must have something or know something the

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Speaker 1: daughter's suspicions or even they could have had the most explosive, violent,

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Speaker 1: volatile relationship leading up to this, and that is not

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Speaker 1: evidence that he killed the woman. So I am they

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Speaker 1: have to have something, and I'm curious to know what

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Speaker 1: it is because they don't have our body.

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Speaker 2: Correct, I've seen no where they.

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Speaker 3: Have that as of this recording, they do not have

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Speaker 3: Lynette Hooker's body. We do have a statement, however, from

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Speaker 3: Brian's attorney upon his arrest, So here is what he

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Speaker 3: is claiming at this moment.

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Speaker 4: I maintain the positions stated by my client.

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Speaker 3: He categorically denies the allegations made against him, and he

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Speaker 3: said that he had advised his client to refrain from

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Speaker 3: any other public comments to ensure the integrity of the

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Speaker 3: legal process. But we had just we did a podcast

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Speaker 3: on this yesterday and we heard from Brian. On Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: he put out this heartfelt statement on social media talking about,

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Speaker 3: you know, thanking all of the different Bahamian entities and

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Speaker 3: organizations police search and rescue helping him find his Soulmate.

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Speaker 3: That was the name of their yacht by the way,

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Speaker 3: that they were going back to. Their boat's name was Soulmate,

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Speaker 3: and they had been documenting all of their travels on

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Speaker 3: So yes, he put out the statement basically just saying

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Speaker 3: apparently police weren't buying any of it, or at least

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Speaker 2: I was surprised, I have to tell you.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised when you and I Happy to be

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Speaker 1: out alert started coming through on our phones. I was

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Speaker 1: surprised to hear that an arrest had been made. Now

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Speaker 1: the announcement that they made ropes and there was some

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there was much confusion, but the

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Speaker 1: authorities weren't specific in who they arrested. But you could

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Speaker 1: read between the lines here. But I think other outlets

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Speaker 1: were able to confirm, but they would only say that

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Speaker 1: a fifty nine year old American male, Yes, was arrested

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Speaker 1: in connection.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: That was a little confusing at first, because we thought,

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Speaker 3: how could there be another man and around the same

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Speaker 3: age of her husband involved in some way where he's

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Speaker 3: arrested potentially for the murder or at least the disappearance

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Speaker 3: of Lynette.

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Speaker 4: Turns out Yes, in fact, it was her husband.

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Speaker 3: He was claiming that he was heartbroken and he called

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Speaker 3: it the recent boat accident. I just think, Look, I

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Speaker 3: don't know how they're going to go about proving this.

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Speaker 3: They have the boat, If there are any forensics in

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Speaker 3: short of having her body be recovered, or that's my point.

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Speaker 4: You make a good point. Her daughter may have.

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Speaker 3: Really valid historical evidence that this or something similar to this,

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Speaker 3: or a threat of this existed, but that does not

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Speaker 3: rise to the level of arresting somebody.

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Speaker 4: You have to have some sort of other evidence connecting

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Speaker 3: And right now all we know is what he told us,

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Speaker 3: that she fell overboard in rough seas, that the current

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Speaker 3: pulled the two of them away too far from one another.

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Speaker 3: His boat was unable to move or operate because she

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Speaker 3: had the keys, and so he couldn't go get her

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Speaker 3: or save her on the boat. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: other like And you've made the point. And her daughter

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Speaker 3: did say this was a strong swimmer. Lynnette knew how

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Speaker 3: to kill her if he did before throwing her overboard,

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Speaker 3: if that's what happened, and if that did happen, is

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Speaker 3: there any evidence of that on the boat.

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Speaker 2: It was short of her body.

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Speaker 1: If there has to be something on the boat, there

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Speaker 1: has to be something. He told somebody, this has to

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Speaker 1: be based on something to make this arrest. So I'm

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Speaker 1: fascinated to hear what that thing. Maybe I was, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know. The step daughter is one thing to be

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Speaker 1: half suspicions rose, but she described a pretty volatile relationship

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Speaker 1: altercations between these two, as she almost talked about it

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Speaker 1: like it was just a part of their recent history.

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Speaker 4: That is true. She said that they had been drinking lately.

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Speaker 3: And fighting a lot, and she even pointed out that

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Speaker 3: there was a prior incident where he had she used

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Speaker 3: the words choked her out, So had choked his choked

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Speaker 3: her mom and then threatened to throw her overboard, so

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Speaker 3: she claimed, and she told police. She told members of

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Speaker 3: the media that this was a couple who looked beautiful

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Speaker 3: and happy and adventurous on Instagram and on their social

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Speaker 3: media pages, I think mostly Facebook, but that actually if

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Speaker 4: Off this boat. She was immediately suspicious.

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Speaker 1: Well, we did hear from the man who is now

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Speaker 1: a suspect, the man who is now under arrest, before

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Speaker 1: he became officially a suspect, before he was put under arrest,

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Speaker 1: he actually put a message out for all of us

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Speaker 1: to hear about this case, about his soulmate, about his wife,

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Speaker 1: about this accident. We'll tell you what he had to say,

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Speaker 1: word for a word, and you know what, see what

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Speaker 5: Stay here, all right?

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Speaker 1: We continue here on Amy and TJ. Ropes, Brian right,

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Speaker 1: Brian Hooker, Brian Hooker, Brian Hookers is his name? Look,

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Speaker 1: he was speaking. I think you saw the video as well.

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Speaker 1: There were camera I can't remember which I think was CBS.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they caught up with him in the Bahamas. He

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Speaker 1: on social media. Won't you know what? Not going to

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Speaker 1: give an opinion about it? We'll read you have it

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Speaker 3: I can pull it up in just a second. Because

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Speaker 3: also remember we also got to hear that. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: we'll get into this too. He left a voice message

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Speaker 3: what you would expect someone to leave a message for

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Speaker 3: the daughter of your wife who has gone missing. But yes,

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Speaker 3: I do have his official statement that he put out

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Speaker 3: wrote this on Wednesday. I am heartbroken over the recent

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Speaker 3: my beloved Lynette to fall from our small dinghy near

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Speaker 3: the winds and currents drove us further apart. We continued

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Speaker 3: Our family is deeply grateful for the Behavian people's assistance.

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Speaker 3: He talks about the fire and rescue teams Behave, the

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Speaker 3: He says, everyone who's worked tirelessly in an ongoing effort

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Speaker 3: to bring Lynette back to us. Thank you to everyone

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Speaker 3: for keeping Lynette in your thoughts and for your support.

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Speaker 4: Of our family during this difficult time.

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Speaker 3: That was just hours ago that he put this statement

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Speaker 3: out and now he is under arrest.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, right, this is an innocent man. Remember that

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Speaker 1: about our justice system. Excuse me, this is not our

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Speaker 1: justice system.

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Speaker 4: This is the behavian justice system.

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Speaker 1: Pumped the brakes there, Hey, this is not our justice system.

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Speaker 1: So will there be I'm actually not sure, Robes, as

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Speaker 1: I speak to you, I don't think it would be

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Speaker 1: that much of a huge disparity between our two justice systems.

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Speaker 1: But there have to be some level of evidence against

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Speaker 1: this man, and right now all it is is a

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Speaker 1: right now the evidence is come on, man. But that's

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Speaker 1: the extent of this story. Like who you think? You

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Speaker 1: can obviously that, but that doesn't hold up in court.

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Speaker 1: What do they have? They must have something. This statement here,

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Speaker 1: first line of it is just peculiar, Robes, How do

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Speaker 1: you say, I'm heartbroken the recent boat accident in unpredictable

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Speaker 1: seas and high winds.

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Speaker 3: It's just not how people talk. And if you just

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Speaker 3: had gone through something that traumatic. Where he is claiming

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Speaker 3: he saw his wife, oh my lovedy the words, fall off.

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Speaker 4: A boat in front of him.

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Speaker 3: He could do nothing to save her, according to him,

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Speaker 3: how you would describe that. It wouldn't be clinical.

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Speaker 4: And look, I guess I do want to and you.

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Speaker 3: Always say this whole space for the fact that we

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Speaker 3: But there's no emotion there.

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Speaker 4: It just feels very performative. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And then we heard the voicemail that he left his

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Speaker 4: It all felt.

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Speaker 1: Again, what you're saying makes perfect sense based on us

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Speaker 1: seeing this movie time and time again. This story is

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Speaker 1: so familiar to us all that it's bizarre that you

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Speaker 1: And then you pointed out to me, well, you go

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Speaker 4: She's not here to say anything.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So, but this the story and the story he's

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Speaker 1: telling robes and the words he's using. I leave space

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Speaker 1: Strange and unpredictable season high.

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Speaker 4: Ends, so strange.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But I just I always want to try to

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Speaker 2: leave a little space.

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Speaker 1: But every step along the way of this, including everything

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Speaker 3: And look, we will see what happens going forward, because

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Speaker 3: again this is in the Behavian jurisdiction, but you've got

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Speaker 3: I don't know how this works exactly, because, yeah, you've

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Speaker 3: got two US citizens, one missing, presumed dead, and one

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Speaker 3: now arrested in connection with her disappearance. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know if US authorities step in take over. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what happens next, but we shall see and it

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Speaker 3: will be interesting, and we of course will be following

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Speaker 3: it for all of you, but we always appreciate you

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Speaker 3: listening to us.

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Speaker 4: As always, I may be rove off alongside TJ. Holmes.

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Speaker 4: We will talk to you soon