1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: back with you. Buck. How you doing, man, man, I'm good. 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Got a couple of Thursday night games 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: that I'm excited about. One we have the Miami Dolphins 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: in Baltimore Ravens that we will be on the call, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Amazon and Twitch you can check us out. But the 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: tar Heels get a chance to take down the pit Panthers. 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: You know that's a big one. That would be just 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: coming off a big win now. I mean, yeah, I 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: have to be tricked off a bunch of games early. 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: But anyway, it's it's how you started, how you finished, 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: and so if we get a chance to finish it 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: the right way. But really, DJ will have this one 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: on record because the two quarterbacks playing in the game 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: are getting a little bus Sam, how can you pick it? 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: Let's kind of begin to see and assess what quarterback 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: class could look like. M Yeah, I want to get 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: to that a little bit later too. I watched pick 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: it on the plane uh this last week. Actually, we 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: can just kind of get one to just jump to 22 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: it right now. I I need him Buck, there's some 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: buzz building on him. I liked him. He's a good player, 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: he reminded me. Um, I said, kind of like a 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: more athletic Matt Hasselbeck. Um, but he's just got he's 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: he can he plays with confidence. Um, he's got you 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: know the things. He's got, smaller hands and what everybody 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: tells you that goes in there. He wears the two 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: gloves like Bridgewater did coming out. But he's got good 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: arm strength. I don't I mean, there's nothing wrong there. Um. 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: He can play, make a little bit, he can create, 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: make some things happen. For the most part, really good 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: decision maker. You know, some people have said kind of 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow light is the comp from some of the 35 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: scouts that have gone through there. I just thought, you know, 36 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: with with Matt Hasselbeck, just you know, real efficient, quick 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: processor balls out where it needs to be. He's a 38 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: good player, Like he doesn't have an outstanding trait, like 39 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: there's no superpower as you like to say, but just 40 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: a good, really good, solid overall player. It's funny because 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with being 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: a really good player. I think the trick to quarterback 43 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: evaluation is being able to know exact actually who the 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: guy is. And as you and I begin to present 45 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: the player is and here's what the players and here's 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: what he needs. I think we've done this before, we 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: talked about this. It's almost like Christmas time and you 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: get the toy. Let's make sure we give the instructions 49 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: so you know how to operate it. How to operate 50 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: the toy. And I feel like with Kenny Pickett, uh, 51 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: certainly you want to make sure that you have a 52 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: cast to playmakers around him and all the other stuff. 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: You want to make sure that the system allows him 54 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: to play to his strengths, which is get the ball out, 55 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: do some of those things he can play, make and 56 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: make some things happen. So all those things are good. 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this because I've obviously watched Sam Howell 58 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: more being a tar heel. I think Sam Howell, like 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: the slow start, has kind of maybe turned people off 60 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: of Hour, but I think they need to go back 61 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: and watch the tape of Late because he is really 62 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: having a very strong year, a solid year, and what 63 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: he has done is very reminiscent to what Baker Mayfield 64 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: did his last year Oklahoma. He's running a little more 65 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: then you would think like DJ just dude is running 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: the ball and having success as a runner. I'm not 67 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: saying that he comes to the league and does that 68 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but I think he has shown more 69 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: athleticism and mobility then maybe we thought based on how 70 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: he played the first couple of years, and I think 71 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: that may add a little to the game. That said, 72 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: I think the Baker Mayfield kind of think you gave 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: him that camp early. I think that's a very solid 74 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: comp and I think whoever takes him, if you take 75 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: him and you put him in the same system like 76 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: Baker's in, I think Sam Howell can have that kind 77 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: of success because he's very accurate, he does have a 78 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: pretty good arm, and the mobility would allow him to 79 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: play in a system like that that he could have 80 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: the same level of success that I would say that 81 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: we've seen the Jimmy Garoppolos, the Baker Mayfields, the Kirk 82 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Cousins and those guys having that system where if it's 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: set up for him, they can deal and they can operate. 84 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll ever be a superstar, but 85 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I think he could be a high functioning starter in 86 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: the right system, no doubt. Um. I want to, Uh, 87 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I want to. I'm really looking forward to watching that game, 88 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: especially when it comes out on tape of study those 89 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, because I think you brought up a good point. 90 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Sam since some of the early games 91 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: this year. I want to say with Virginia Tech, you 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: not play well in that game. So I'm anxious kind 93 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: of come back and watch some of that. I'm gonna 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: show you. I'm gonna pull up on my computer here 95 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: real quick, Buck, because this is the fun stuff when 96 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: you're when you're doing one of these things, one of 97 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: these podcasts, and then this this picture, hold on so 98 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: I can show it to you. It gets posted right there. 99 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: That's Cam and and Temper. Cam Newton is back with 100 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Man, I know, we we've got some 101 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: stuff we want to get to. I've got the top 102 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: twenty five rookies. We want to talk about this Thursday 103 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: night game with with Baltimore and the Dolphins. But um, 104 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: we gotta hit this. It just went down. Cam Newton 105 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: is back with the Carolina Panthers. Your thoughts, um man, 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: I think they had to go a long way to 107 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: pass that relationship, but right because there was some some 108 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: hard feelings when Kim left the Carolina Panthers. Kim more 109 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: so the mad world just saying, hey, man, maybe didn't 110 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: feel like he had a fair shake um at the 111 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: end of that deal. But you know, man, distance and 112 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: time all that stuff can make everything work out. I 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: think what makes the heart fond? Yeah, this is makes 114 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 1: heart go fond or whatever it is. I think, however 115 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: you want to said, Um, I think here's the thing. 116 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: He is the icon for the franchise. I would say 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: he's probably the most famous player. Um. He accomplished then 118 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: m VP. He took the team to the Super Bowl. UM. 119 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: I think the time apart probably has led to a 120 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: great appreciation from both parties in terms of who he 121 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: is in the organization. Kim probably realized that the Panthers 122 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: were probably the best place for him to kind of 123 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: do his deal because he appreciated him and they kind 124 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: of understand who he is and they kind of got 125 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: him in that area. And then I think the Panthers 126 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: now may realize, like, know, maybe he wasn't so bad. 127 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: Maybe there's some stuff that we could do, maybe some 128 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: stuff we could do to help him. That stuff, and 129 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: I think it just kind of like the perfect storm 130 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: Sam Sam Donald getting hurt probably being out for a 131 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: long time, gives him an opportunity to kind of walking 132 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: back into the building and see what can they do 133 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: for the latter part of the season, to kind of 134 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: see how this works out and what it looks like. 135 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: Because I like p J. Walker, but I don't think 136 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: they see p J Walker as a future starter for 137 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: the team. So at least if you can bring somebody back, 138 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: bring someone who knows the landscape the fans norm and 139 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: he can't play a little bit, even though he didn't 140 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: play great last year for the Patriots. Okay, this is uh, 141 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: this is right in your wheelhouse because this is kind 142 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: of right there in your era. Um, we're in the 143 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: same area. But I know you remember this. How bad 144 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: do you want to see Cam walk into the facility 145 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: and go straight? Dion? This is this is my house 146 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 1: I built. I built this place, even a private, private 147 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I know, I know, yes, yes. When he came back 148 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: to the Georgian Home, had the infamous fight with Andre 149 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Risen at a Fix six when he was playing with 150 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: the forty Niners and all that his return, I do 151 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: think it'd be great because you know, by the way, 152 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: by the way, let's get let's give it the bill homework, 153 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: the bill in post. So we're recording this now you 154 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: have to insert that right now. So go find that 155 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: clip at your homework and you do assert it right now. 156 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: This is my house and this will always be my house, 157 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: and let's continue. How great. So so look, he can't 158 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: even really say it's his house because they have a 159 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: new facility now in Rockio because they moved their operations 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: from Charlotte to Rockio. So he has to go to 161 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: a new address to nassay as my house. But when 162 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: he walks back into the stadium I think it's still 163 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: called Bank American Stadium, he still can he can do 164 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: it when he walks out. Um, it's the pause by 165 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: the way, with the it's the pause between this is 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: my house. That's that's that pregnant pause right there that 167 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: makes that whole sound. But man, so so great. But no, look, 168 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: I think this is this is great. It's great. I 169 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: think the team is is better constructed this year than 170 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: it was when we last saw cam Uh in the mix, 171 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: and so he have an opportunity to kind of do 172 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: some of those things that Um, he's again. They still 173 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: can running with christ McCaffrey. They have playmakers on the outside. 174 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: I would say that offensively, it's a better group that 175 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: he's playing with and he played within New England and 176 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: so now it's a matter of him learning the offense 177 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: and Joe Brady doing some stuff to kind of help 178 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: him get going. But it should be fun to see it. 179 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we all like to reminisce. I just think 180 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: it's funny all those people that get rid of the 181 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: cam jerseys now they kind of rummed in through the 182 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: garage and the trash. My son has one. My son 183 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: has on a super Bowl jersey. Super Bowl. It's that 184 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: thing out of the closet back so us you never know. 185 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: But DJ, that's why we always talked about in this business, 186 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: the way that leave, don't burn bridges. Bridges, yeah and 187 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: come back. Um, all right, I want to on the 188 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: subject of the Panthers before we move on to some 189 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: other stuff. Um, there's like rumblings you hear. You know, 190 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: l s U job is open and they have a 191 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: rather large budget to do whatever they want to do 192 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: and go after whoever they want to go after. I mean, 193 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: obviously you've seen stuff of Fisher. We all know what 194 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: he's making at A and M and what it would 195 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: cost to go get him. But one of the names 196 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: you hear kind of on the periphery, and I think 197 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: people just kind of, you know whatever, that's just that's 198 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: a pipe dream. As you hear Matt Rules named a 199 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: little bit with L s U. And I know you know, 200 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: and I don't want Matt to get offended like Mike 201 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Tomlin got offended that we could talk about a pro 202 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: coach with a college job. But I want to ask 203 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: just a simple question. Okay, I'm not trying to get 204 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: you in trouble with your former employeer employer here, but 205 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: better job Carolina Panthers head coaching job or the L 206 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: s U Tiger's head coaching job. M hmmm. That L 207 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: s U job is really intriguing. Na. It's a head 208 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: knocker because of the division that you and you have 209 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: to deal with Nick Save and you gotta deal with 210 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: jimbo Uh. I mean, you do with some heavyweights in 211 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: that thing. But dj appro job is only as good 212 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: as your quarterback. And if you don't have a quarterback, 213 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: or if you don't have a pass to get a 214 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: high end quarterback it's a hard job in the pros. 215 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: You can't win without a quarterback. I mean that's what 216 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: we're seeing. And so if I'm at Rule, I'm gonna 217 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: have to look at my roster and see a do 218 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: I have a quarterback on the roster? B Is there 219 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the off season that I can get, 220 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback that's going to shake loose, that I 221 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: can get that immediately make us a playoff contended. I mean, 222 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: they guaranteed Sam's fifthier options so next year or whatever. 223 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: So so he's there and in three is there a 224 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft that can immediately reverse your fortunes 225 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: as a franchise and give you hope that you can 226 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: get it done? And right now, there's no, no, no, 227 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: Like I just don't I just don't know if they 228 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: if they have those things. So then when I think 229 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: about l s U and going to college, man, that's 230 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: like those It's like putting on the slippers the bar 231 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: room loafers. Like he goes right back. He used the 232 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: same thing that he's used at Temple, Baylor and whatever, 233 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: but he's doing it with a better product. I mean, 234 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Temple and Baylor were in the dumps when he showed up. 235 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: He goes to l s U. There are a couple 236 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: of years removed from winning in national championship. We understand 237 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: the recruiting footprint that is there. You ain't gotta go 238 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: far for players. Everyone in Louisiana wants to play at 239 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: l s U. And so if you're mad Rule, you 240 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: just kind of look around and say, hey, we kind 241 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: of get the program going and kind of make him tough, 242 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: kind of fixed this, fix that you're right back in 243 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: the mix. Because DJ think about this. As bad as 244 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: it's been for Ato Geron, right, they're still very competitive. 245 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Alabam am I down to the wire, right. I watched 246 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: him play at the Batman. I'm looking at that guys, 247 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, they got some players. And so 248 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're met Rule and you fancy 249 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: yourself maybe as more of a college coach than an 250 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: NFL coach, man, you jump at the opportunity to go 251 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: to l s U. With the brand behind you, the 252 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: recruiting footprint that's right there, and all the bills and 253 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: whistles that come with coaching an elite team in the SEC. 254 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: That's a much better job than the previous college jobs 255 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: that he said, and we saw the success that he 256 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: had there. Yeah, I'm not saying that he will do it. 257 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm I mean, we just got That's what I'm saying. 258 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: It's some of them are I roll hang up right? Hey, 259 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: uh you know Matt rules, I roll hang up the phone. 260 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: L s U. It's like it's three o'clock. Good does 261 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: that work for you? Okay, block a little time off there. 262 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: We'll discuss this a little bit around the corner. We 263 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna slide in there and just gonna talk 264 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: a biscuit with that ham biscuit movie. See, we can't 265 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: work this thing out. A little biscuit is some mice 266 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: tea we just gotta talk about and just see what 267 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: it looks like. It's a I mean, I know the 268 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: sec you said it. It's you've got You've got Georgia 269 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: and Baman you've got to deal with. But L s 270 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: U is a that's a brand man. And you could 271 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: throw a rock and hit enough players to hit the 272 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: guys you need to come in there and win a 273 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: national championship. And when you walk into a living room, 274 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: L s U means something, especially down there in Louisiana, Texas. So, um, yeah, 275 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: you've got a chance to go be a perennial national 276 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: championship contender. And by the way, I know he's making 277 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: a ton of money and uh and Carolina has a 278 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: long term security that's a blank check down there in 279 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: Baton rouge man that they'll they'll write you whatever you need, 280 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: blank check man. And you make that bio so significant 281 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: that no matter what they say, and when the tide turns, 282 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: they don't have to stroke a huge check with a 283 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: lot of commas and zeros and so I am I 284 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: think you have to. I think you have to. I 285 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: think you have to do that and DJ. The other 286 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: thing that happens is when uh, the word about l 287 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: s U gets out there, you know who else place 288 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: as a phone call USC in the USC's like hey whoa, whoa, hey, hey, yeah, 289 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: we want to get it. I don't think it's a 290 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: better fit for him. I think the l U job 291 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: is a better fit because I think you can I mean, 292 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: I think you win national titles are both, but I 293 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: think it's different beause of how you build it. I 294 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: think the l s U is probably more like the 295 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: way that he likes to build as opposed to SC thing. 296 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: It's hard for me and is We've talked about this before, 297 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: but SC has always been, you know, a premier job, 298 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: and the history that they've had there and and the 299 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, the potential on the upside. The longer I 300 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: pay attention to this college football season, the more I'm 301 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: beginning to think football is not so relevant out here 302 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: on the West Coast, to think that it's it's different. 303 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: And I would say it because we've both spent time. 304 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: I grew up in the in the South. You played 305 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: in the South at a few different schools, so you 306 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of understand the lad and land. Uh. Out west 307 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: it's funny right out west, is it's cute, It's football 308 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: season that's great or whatever. DJ In the South, particularly 309 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: in SEC country, there are two seasons. There's football season 310 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: and and then I mean, I mean, if you just 311 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: think about, particularly down there, the fact that Alabama and 312 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: those schools get ninety folks. Tennessee was getting a hundred 313 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: in there when they were terrying for a spring game, 314 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: like it is unbelievable. And just the recruiting access because 315 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: when you we talked to these coaches, right, we talked 316 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: to the coaches in the Pact. Not only we were scouts, 317 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: but now in this part of the business, defensive linemen 318 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: are just in your backyard in the SEC. And that 319 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: is the biggest difference between the SEC and the rest 320 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: of the conferences is in that part of the country, 321 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: those as we talked about, there's not many that walk 322 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: the face of the earth that are like that. They 323 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: all happen to be in those areas and you get 324 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: them big athletic feels, and it's not a coincidence. Just 325 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: look at the offensive and defensive lines in that conference. 326 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: When you look at Georgia, you look at Bam, when 327 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: you look at the way Texas and them is constructed, 328 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: even down L. S U team and all of those others, 329 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: they look different. Then when we look out here on 330 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: the West Coast, it's different, and so the priorities, so 331 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: West Coast is just different. This is what I was 332 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: just looking at. Um so in somebody else brought this 333 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: up the other day, they said, hey, do you think 334 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: that uh um, oh gosh, who were you talking about? Game? 335 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: Um Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. There's like, do you think 336 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: if L s U calls Lincoln Riley and throws all 337 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: kinds of money at him. Do you think he would 338 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: do it? And the immediate other person said, you know, 339 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: there's no way he's at Oklahoma. He's been a playoff, this, that, 340 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: and the other. I'm like, well, that's getting ready to 341 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: go on the SEC. Now, that's not gonna be It's 342 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: not gonna be a cake walk to get in there. 343 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: I said, here's the difference, and I just looked this 344 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: up because I wanted to be sure. Um, Oklahoma, as 345 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: great as they've been, you think about the number one 346 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: overall pick quarterbacks they've had, they've had the white outs. Um, 347 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: they've had some linebackers. When you get into the games 348 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: against the big boys, your defensive line is what matters. 349 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: They've had offensive lineman, Right, we've seen some good offensive 350 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: lineman second round picks, you know, good players. Uh. So, 351 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: you know when the last time they had a defensive 352 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: lineman that was drafted in the first two rounds was 353 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen Jordan Phillips in the second round. So 354 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: since Lincoln Riley has been there, they haven't had a 355 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: defensive lineman go in the first round. I don't think 356 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: he didn't get there was after that, right, So we 357 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: hasn't even had a defensive lineman get picked in the 358 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: second round. Guess what you go to L s U 359 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: you get first and second round defensive lineman. That's the 360 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: biggest difference, DJ, That's the biggest difference in all those 361 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: teams when you look at those teams. As much as 362 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: we talked about the offensive stuff, is the D lineman 363 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: is the D line play. We talked about Clemson winning 364 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: national titles but not having the offensive linemen to get 365 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: drafted in the first round, but you look at their 366 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: defensive line lineage, they've been able to produce defensive linemen 367 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: they get drafted this top pics. Look, that's the bed rock. 368 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: If you want to win a national title, that's where 369 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: it starts. It starts in the trenches, and it starts 370 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. You have to 371 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: have some war daddies to be able to get it done. 372 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that we're talking about Georgia is 373 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: not because of their offense, is because when you look 374 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: at their defense, one, they're rolling in like a hockey 375 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: hockey line change, and they are big, they are fast, 376 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: and they are real physical and I think there's a 377 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: article in the Athletic where they were talking about like 378 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: the demise of Florida, and Kirby Smart was just kind 379 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: of talking about like how you have to build a 380 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: program and how you have to love the recruiting part 381 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: of it. And they are bringing players in left in right, 382 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: and they're stacking five stars on top of five starts, 383 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: and they're telling them a man, two dogs, one bone 384 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: got figured out. You know you gotta you gotta figure 385 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: it out. And that's and that's what it is. And 386 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: the beautiful thing about like watching the way that it 387 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: plays out. Uh, And we always talked about this, DJ 388 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: has no different in National Football League. We can talk 389 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: about all the shiny stuff and the bells and whistles 390 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, but you better be able to get 391 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: it done up front, D line and old line. And 392 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: that's why it's so great that you did that little 393 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: thing on the Browns the other day, because it's funny 394 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: right when we talk about the Browns and this not 395 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: necessarily the smoothest transition, but I will say this, basically, 396 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: what the Cleveland Browns did, they swapped out a shiny 397 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: toy on the outside and Odell Beckham Jr. For foundational 398 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: pieces on the inside. And what they did to me 399 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: is Andrew Burry and Kevin Stefanski let the football world 400 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: know what their brand is and what they're about. I 401 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: now know exactly what the Cleveland Browns are about. The 402 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns about rock and sock and football, smash mouth football, 403 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: and they're building with the bigs up front, and it 404 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter about the auxiliary pieces. When you commit two 405 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: guards on back to back days on three and four 406 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: year extensions, you're telling your team it all starts right 407 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: here up front. And to me, that is impressive because 408 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: it is suggesting to the word, hey, this is how 409 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna build a team. I think it also sends 410 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: a message to your quarterback, Hey, man, if you do 411 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: this thing the right way, we're always gonna keep you protective. 412 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna have all the stuff around you. Because everyone 413 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: is signed Nick chub Kareem Hunt, the offensive line. You 414 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: just gotta play your part, and playing your part maybe 415 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: mean taking a little less so you can do a 416 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: little more, because it's in place for the Browns to 417 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: be okay, no doubt. Um, I thought it was fastening 418 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: the timing of that one goes out and then take 419 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: care of two of their own. Um, interesting statement that 420 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: was made by the and I don't think it's a coincidence. 421 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: I gotta go back in fact check myself here, so 422 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: I mentioned that thing about Oklahoma right going back to 423 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: since this shocked me when I looked this up. L 424 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: s U has only had two defensive linemen since in 425 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: the first or second round. One of them is with 426 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: the Jags and Caleb and Chasan who's done nothing. Uh. 427 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: And the other one, obviously is a home run in 428 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: dail Hunter. He no, sorry, Daanil Hunter was a third 429 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: round pick um. Yeah, that's so they've only had one 430 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: good night, How is that possible? Well, Alabama Georgia taking 431 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: them all maybe, But you know, you gotta love, you 432 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: gotta love the recruiting product. That's interesting. That's shocked me, 433 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: don't you know what it also does? That speaks to 434 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: why they've been so many consistent in terms of being 435 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: able to compete and by for the title you can 436 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: see to see that you've seen in the SEC has 437 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: been Alabama and Georgia, and Alabama and Georgia have I mean, look, 438 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: it's like building a house. They built a house on 439 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: the solid foundation. The D line is always going to 440 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: produce that. I mean, just thinking about Alabama, Alabama Quinnin 441 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: Williams couldn't get on the field the next year. The 442 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: next year he goes and he plays a ton and 443 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: it's every year there's a story like that. I mean, 444 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: who's this, where's this guy come from? He was there, 445 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: he was just rotating in kind of this is this 446 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: year the start he starts, it becomes a top pick um. 447 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: It's the machine on both sides. Interesting, Ohio State is 448 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: the one who's cleaning up on all these offense, on 449 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: all these defensive linemen. Michigan has had a bunch of 450 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: defensive linemen to those two Big Ten schools have done 451 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: a really nice job with the Interesting. So here's here's 452 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: the thing about Michigan, right, because I kind of feel 453 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: bad for Harbor and the narrative that is out there 454 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: about Michigan, right because they can't knock off Ohio State. 455 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: But historically Ohio State has always been the Big Ten 456 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: power and a Michigan Like if you go back and 457 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: look through the animals, it has always been Ohio State 458 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: kind of dominating the conference, not Michigan. They are building 459 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: it the right way. They just have the problem that 460 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: they have Ohio State in their side of the Big Like, 461 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: that's it. If they went a different side and they 462 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: played in the championship game, then we wouldn't have it. 463 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: But because the road to the Big Ten championship game 464 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: goes through Ohio State, they can't get there. No, that's 465 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: fairly interesting, man, when you look at that Ohio State, 466 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: hats off to them. They recruited their butts off on 467 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: the defensive line. Um, all right, I want to get 468 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: some of these other topics here, So let's let's take 469 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: a quick break. Uh, and we'll back right after this. 470 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: All right, buck, We've hit on Cam Newton, We've hit 471 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: on the Carolina thing and uh and the l s 472 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: U job opening. We've touched on the Browns a little bit. Um. 473 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: I thought that was fascinating as well. Let's let's jump 474 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: through these top twenty five rookies real quickly. I want 475 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: to get to this Thursday night game. Aren't you ready? Um? Okay, 476 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: So I did my halfway point ranking of these top 477 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: twenty five rookies, which I believe it or not, some 478 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: people didn't agree with on on social media. Yeah, people, 479 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: A couple of couple of people. Um, so I want 480 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons one. I just I mean, to me, he's 481 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: like borderline defensive player to your conversation. He's not gonna 482 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: win that award obviously, but he's inserted himself into that. 483 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: He's an elite player with all that he's done, a 484 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: dominant player. Uh. The two three debate is a good 485 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: one to have. Um, you've got Jamaar Chase and Rashawn Slater, 486 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: who have both been elite at their positions. Um, I 487 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: think they're both Pro Bowl players. To me, it's a 488 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: flip flip a coin. I ended up going with Chase 489 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: because he's had some of those big games here recently. 490 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: But him and Slater, that's that's a fair discussion. Kyle 491 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Pitts launched all the way up to fourth. Mac Jones 492 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: has been the most consistent rookie quarterback. He's five. Javonte 493 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: Williams your tar heels six. The running back has been 494 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: really really coming on. Creed Humphrey has been an outstanding center. 495 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: He's seven. Uh. Naji Harris guy, you love Buck. We've 496 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: seen him catch the ball a bunch o'daf o way. 497 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna see him tonight in the Thursday game for 498 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: the for the ravens um his leads them in pressures. 499 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: He's been excellent. DeVante Smith I moved or he's sitting 500 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: here at the number ten spot. Saw him last week 501 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: he had five for one sixteen against the Chargers. He's 502 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: he's been impressive. So that's the top ten, no man 503 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: it and it's been a really solid group. DJ I think. 504 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: I think what's really impressive is we've had a bunch 505 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: of different guys come in different walks, meaning not just 506 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: first round of guys that have come and made contributions. 507 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: You talked about Javonte Williams well talking about Creed Humphrey, 508 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: guys that have been able to get right on the 509 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: field and have immediate success. And to me, it just 510 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: is about the quick developmental process, the quick understanding that 511 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: they have of the National Football League, a great job 512 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: of the coaches putting those guys in positions to succeed, 513 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: and then it's just man in college football is really 514 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: providing NFL guys with some plug and play players, maybe 515 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: more so than any other time in the history of 516 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: the draft, that we're getting plug in plays at all 517 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: levels of the draft. So I think people are benefiting 518 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: from that. All right, I'm gonna go eleven through twenty 519 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: and then let you pick out a name you think 520 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: it's interesting here eleven Trevor Lawrence, twelve, Patrick Surtan the second, 521 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: thirteen Elijah Mitchell running back for the Niners, fourteen, Nick 522 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: Bolton with the Chiefs, fifteen Jalen Waddle with the Dolphins. 523 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: Sixteen Christian Barmore he's been outstanding with New England. UH 524 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: seventeen Tray Smith, the big guard with the Chiefs. So 525 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: they've got two rookies on two rookie offensive lineman j 526 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: O k Jeremiah Wisu Coromoa is eighteen. He's missed a 527 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: couple of games. He's missed three games where he'd be 528 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: much higher on this list. Nineteen Elijah Vera Tucker for 529 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: the Jets, who's come on. And twenty justin Field. So 530 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: you've booke ended by quarterbacks there. Fields comes into the 531 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: list for the first time at twenty. UM, and then 532 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: you also look at Trevor Lawrence. He's there at number eleven. Yeah, 533 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I think the big thing is in staying with the quarterbacks. UM. 534 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Young quarterbacks are really beholden to the guys that they 535 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: have around him. Trevor Lawrence and justin fields respectively, don't 536 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: necessarily have I would say, the right environment around them 537 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: to allow them to flours. But what they've done is 538 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: they've shown us enough flashes to feel good about what 539 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: they could be and if their teams do it right 540 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: over the next year or two, those guys should really 541 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: have major pops year two, year three. UM. I think 542 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: the Elijah Mitchell uh discovery and revelation is one that 543 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: what kind of feed to debate when it comes to 544 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: running backs. Uh do you need to uh spend big 545 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: draft capital to get one or can you find one 546 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: uh anywhere in the draft or after the draft to 547 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: kind of put on the field and have success. The 548 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: Niners have done it successfully time after time, as a 549 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: lot of people that employ the system has done. But 550 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: I think Elijah Mitchell will be kind of like that 551 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: test case. He'd be another example a you can find 552 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: them anywhere. You just got to know what you're looking for. 553 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: You have to have the right system in place. Yeah. No, 554 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: he's really you know, speed and power. He's brought that 555 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: to the table. He saw that in college and it's 556 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: come up in a big way. UM. The last five 557 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: here in Nate Hobbs with the Raiders are Buddy Rhet's 558 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: favorite player in the league. Interesting has been outstanding at 559 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: the nickel. Michael Carter, the running back for the Jets, 560 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: um who's done it running and receiving. Kind of by 561 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: the way at the thirty two. He's not as strong 562 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: as MJD. But just wearing the number thirty two out 563 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: there looks like a little like m j D. Darius Tony, 564 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: real explosive players come on for the Giants. Another Giant 565 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: follows him up as he's ollari he's got a bunch 566 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 1: of sacks. And then Pat Friarmouth, the tight end from 567 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: the Steelers, rounds at a Firmouth has been everything they needed. 568 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: They haven't had to kind of tied in since Miller 569 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: and I and I would actually say that he's a 570 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: a more polishing, refined route running in Heath Miller. Heath 571 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: Millard was a really good pass catcher. But I felt 572 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: like Heath Millard was kind of like that old school 573 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: traditional sixth offensive line. Feel like, yeah, I feel like 574 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: Farnmouth is more of a wide receiver, but he really 575 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: is a tighten because he can block and do those things. 576 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: But he has come on and I don't think it's 577 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: a coincidence that the Stealers have played better as their 578 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: rookies have started to make more contributions. Uh, the two 579 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: guys on the offensive line for him with a tight 580 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: end and the Nagia Harris, they've kind of become the 581 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: bedrock of that offense. And as they continue to get better. 582 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Whoever is the next quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's 583 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: gonna benefit from having some solid weapons around them. Yeah, 584 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: they've got a pretty good foundation built for the next 585 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: guy to come in there. So and maybe they just 586 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: stay stay local. They ended up getting Picket all right 587 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: across the street and bring him in. Maybe it's it's 588 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: time to when we get a quarterback, we'll see if 589 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: they can get one. Yeah, that'll be easy. Um, all right, 590 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: let's take another quick break and we're gonna come back 591 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: and talk about this Thursday night game. All right, Buck, 592 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: We've got we've got Ravens, We've got Dolphins. Just from 593 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens standpoint, what are you looking at in this game? Uh, 594 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm really looking to see, like how Lamar Jackson kind 595 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: of sustains the success that he's had. It's really funny, 596 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: DJ like he's rating in the top ten as a 597 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: rusher and as a passer. And you know the thing is, 598 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: your eyes tell you that he's playing better, even though 599 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: the numbers don't necessarily reflect that. Like his completion rate 600 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: is only at like sixty five UM. His passer rating 601 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: his sub one, which isn't bad, but it's sub one 602 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: hundred when we're seening a ton of guys over that mark. 603 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: He has with thirteen touchdowns and seven or eight and 604 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: six interceptions, and so it hasn't been terrific, but man, 605 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: he leaves the league and fourth quarter comebacks and game 606 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: winning drives and the thing that was viewed as his 607 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: achilles hell, he's kind of resolved that this year by 608 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: showing people that he can come back. And I would 609 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: say that what's scary about the Baltimore Ravens is they 610 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: have absorbed a ton of injuries to the point we 611 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: don't even talk about all the injuries that they suffered. 612 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: But yet and still they're still sitting here at six 613 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: and two and in the mix. That's scary knowing that 614 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: they haven't played I would say great football, but they 615 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: found the way to win enough games to kind of 616 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: be in the position two maybe back door into a 617 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: number one. See when it's all setting up, you know, 618 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it's fascinating about Baltimore. This is 619 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: you know that old line people use winner some land 620 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: losers lose. Like they just kind of find their way 621 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: to winning football games that I don't know that necessarily 622 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: they should win. Last week was a great example of 623 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: that against Minnesota. But they just it's in their d 624 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: n A. They just kind of have a feel for 625 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: finishing games and making things happen. But I was thinking about, like, 626 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: look inside this division. Um, we're just talking about Cleveland 627 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: Brown's offensive line earlier. There's not one as it's when 628 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: they're all healthy, there's not one Baltimore Raven offensive lineman 629 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: that would start for Cleveland. Not one. Cleveland's better across 630 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: the whole board. The running back situation, obviously, especially due 631 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: to injury. Cleveland's probably got three that are well I 632 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: know for sure too, that are much better. We're probably 633 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: three that are better than anybody that Baltimore has, you know, 634 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: tight ends. Okay, I'll give Andrews, you can give Andrews 635 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of the edge there, but Cleveland's got 636 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: three good tight ends. Baltimore's got their guys too. So 637 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: let's say that's a slight advantage to Baltimore and then 638 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: receiver wise, Holly Hollywood's really come on, I didn't even 639 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: give them a slight edge. But then you flip it 640 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: over to the defensive side of the ball. Outside of 641 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: maybe Calais Campbell Um, I mean that's Clariss Campbell is 642 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: the only one where you're like, okay, absolutely, he starts. 643 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: He starts for Cleveland. I don't know that there's another one. 644 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: We're like, oh, for sure, he's better than what Cleveland has. Mary, 645 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: Marlin Humphrey, maybe Denzel Warin Denzel Awards going well, r 646 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: Humphrey's giving up some plays now, and so just saying 647 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: you could say, okay, maybe Marlin Humphrey, but it's not 648 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: a not a no doubt, so so think about that. 649 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: But they just win. So that's what we're saying. Uh. 650 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: And some of this happens is it's the mystique, right 651 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: like sometimes when the Ravens run out the tunnel. In 652 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: your mind you can't help it, but you think about 653 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: the ad read the ray Lewis, is that the world, 654 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: all the great players that are put on that uniform 655 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: and the way that they play what I admire about 656 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and you work there. To me, they 657 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: hang their head on toughness and grit and resiliency in 658 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: that hey man, we might not have the most skilled, 659 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: but we certainly can hit you in the mouth and 660 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: make it a street fight, and we don't know if 661 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: you can last four quarters of us just throwing haymakers 662 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: at you. And they win games like that. And I 663 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: give John Harbor a ton of credit. Um, I had 664 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: to do a thing where I said he's my coach 665 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: of the year because all the injuries that they've had, 666 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: they could have easily fallen apart, and he somehow kept 667 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: them together. And I think some of the stuff that 668 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: he does makes him the ultimate players coach in just 669 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: terms of his belief and his guys and two guys 670 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: really his belief in number eight. I believe that we 671 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: talked about we're talking about the Dolphins tonight. I believe 672 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: that Brian Flores could take a page from what John 673 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: Harbord does in terms of pumping life into his quarterback. 674 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: There has never been any doubt when any time a 675 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: question is asked about Lamar Jackson where he's playing well, 676 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: whether he's playing poorly. He always celebrates that guy as 677 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: if he's a superhero. And then the way that he 678 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: believes in Justin Tucker, the way that he is like Andy, 679 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: you've made it, yep, go get it. Yeah, and they 680 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: do it. I believe there's something that you can learn 681 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: from that. The belief that you pump into your players. Man, 682 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: it can just spread throughout a team, and a team 683 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: that should not be six and two is in the 684 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: six and two, and a lot of it is just 685 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: because of toughness and the self belief that they have 686 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: a months. Then individually and collectively, Lamar Jackson has passing 687 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: yards and six hundred rushing yards. Right now, this offense 688 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: in terms of total offense is second in the league. 689 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: And we've just told you the offensive line is not 690 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: very good. Um, the running backs are not very good. 691 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: You've got a good receiving group has been better than advertised. 692 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: They're all starting to come on and play well. The 693 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: tight end groups solid. But there's nobody else to point 694 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: to for credit like Lamar Jackson's make the whole thing go. 695 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: It's been incredible what he's done. I mean, their fourth 696 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: in red zone, UM, their third in the league. And rushing. Obviously, 697 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: he's the he's the he's the guy when it comes 698 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: to that. So everything they're doing there is because of him. 699 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: Then you flip it over on the defensive side of 700 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: the ball. This is twenty one ranks scoring defense their 701 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: thirty first against the past. Um. I mean like this 702 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: is this is a quarterback carrying a football team. But 703 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: it goes back to your point, which and I kind 704 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: of wrote these down looking at this game, like the 705 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: Ravens built a team that supports Lamar Jackson. You know, 706 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: especially initially, they built up his skills, developed him so 707 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: made him, you know, make him make individual improvements. But 708 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: more importantly, they built this confidence. They just they've filled 709 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: that dude with so much confidence and he and it. 710 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: He's he's brimming with with confidence. And now you're seeing 711 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: it now and maybe there's some deterioration in some of 712 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: the supporting cast. He just he's making it all, making 713 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: it all work. And that's a franchise quarterback when you 714 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: can kind of make the stink go away. That's what 715 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: he does. He makes you go away. And that's the 716 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: definition of a franchise quarterback. Because you read off the numbers, 717 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: they're not playing great DJ when you look at them 718 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: and say, be like, man, how they surviving? But they 719 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: make a handful of plays. And it's the belief not 720 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: only that Harbor has in his players, but then when 721 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about franchise quarterback, I sincerely believe that the 722 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: Ravens feel like when number eight has the ball, he's 723 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna figure out a way to get it done. And 724 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: that is the only thing that you want when it 725 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: comes to a franchise quarterback. If we give our guy 726 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: of the ball, that he will find a way to 727 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: get us to the winner circle. He does it. Okay, 728 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: I want to give you yes or no questions. We're 729 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: gonna flip it over to the Dolphins. Okay, yes or no, 730 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: quick quick answers. We just talked about that with Lamar 731 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: and the Baltimore Ravens. Have the Miami Dolphins built the 732 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: right team around to a Tunga Byloa Nope? Have the 733 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins developed his skills and improved him as a 734 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 1: football player. No? Have the Miami Dolphins filled him with confidence? No? Poor, 735 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: opposite complete look at how to do it on one 736 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: hand and how not to do it on the other. Yeah, 737 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: and and and it's band and people wonder why he 738 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: isn't playing well? I mean, how can you, like since 739 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: he stepped in the door DJ, there's always been conversations 740 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: about is he good enough? Ryan Fitzpatrick being there, the 741 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: yo yoing of Fitzpatrick and then he's in, and then 742 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: he's out, and then he's in, and oh, we're gonna 743 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: start you, but then we're gonna finish with Fitzpatrick, Like, 744 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: how can you ever develop confidence? And that I know that, Uh, 745 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: there's there's a part of our fan base and and 746 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: even obviously he has to be tough enough to do that. 747 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: But man like man, when you have your young quarterback, 748 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: we talked about like just building putting a bubbled around him, 749 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: trying to protect him. It's your biggest investment. You want 750 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: him to grow and flourish and all that stuff. Then 751 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: you talk about the weapons around it. Hey, you're one 752 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: of seeing what he can do. Your two is making 753 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: sure he has enough around him to thrive well. Jenny 754 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: Waller was a nice addition, but I would say they 755 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: could use even more. Will Fuller is great when he's there, 756 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: but he's not always available. You know those things, And 757 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: then finally, just man just the con line thinks that's 758 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: the problem. Protection play callers, playmakers, and so I would 759 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: give him, I would actually give him a B in 760 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: terms of some of the playmakers, like you've got you've 761 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: got Waddle and get SICKI those are good players. Um, 762 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, I Davante Parker's healthy, he's a solid player. 763 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: You know that They've got some decent guys. It's not bad. 764 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: M I'll give him a B for their for their 765 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: but their offensive lines a D or an F like terrible. Yeah, 766 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: so like when you start out initially, if you like, 767 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens had a good offensive line. Now their offensive 768 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: line is deteriorated. They've got injuries, Ronnie Stanley hadn't been 769 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: out there obviously, Rando Brown's no longer there. You know, 770 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: Villanueva has not been good, but they had Lamar early 771 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: years with a good offensive line. Build up his confidence, 772 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: build up his skills. Then he can cover up some 773 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: of the offensive line issues. But to come in as 774 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: a baby into the league and to be playing behind 775 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: a sieve basically, um, that's that's a challenge. And yeah, 776 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: so anyways, that's uh, that's kind of the take there 777 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: on the Dolphins, they've got a they're gonna have a 778 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: tough one of this one. If they win this game, 779 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: that this is this would be Exhibit nine thousand, four 780 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: d six. While anybody that gambles on NFL games is crazy. Yeah, 781 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: they haven't to win this one, and they they're playing better, 782 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: but if they win this one, it would be a 783 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: major surprise. It just doesn't seem like a team that 784 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: is heading in the right direction. No, I want to 785 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: encourage everybody to hang out with this tonight though we 786 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: call this game this is Thursday as we're recording this, 787 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: So Thursday night, go to twitch dot tv slash move 788 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: the Sticks, Joey Taylor, Bucky Brooks, myself, Um, we will 789 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: have the chat is open. We interact with you guys 790 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: on there. It's a fun hang It's a good way 791 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: to watch the game, especially you know, when the game 792 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: gets out of hand. I think it's when we're at 793 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: our best because we can have fun scouting stories. Uh, 794 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: we can do crossover talk. Hopefully hopefully we'll get out 795 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: of here. Well we'll see. We'll see anything else you 796 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: wanna have before we got here. But no, it was 797 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: always a great show. It was good to chop it 798 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: up and they have some those topics to stuff. A 799 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: lot to kick around, a lot to kick around. In 800 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: the football world, L s U is not not done 801 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,479 Speaker 1: well with defensive lineman who knew, Um, you learned something 802 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: every day, all right, that's gonna do it for us. 803 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys hanging with us. We'll catch you next time. 804 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: Right here on, move the sticks.