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Speaker 1: Plans With Amy Wells, I'm Mike Keith and our special
Speaker 1: guest for part two, Coach Brian Callan. Hey, thanks for
Speaker 1: sticking around or coming back or however we're trying to
Speaker 1: sell this hanging. We're continuing the conversation with the coach.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you first and foremost, what does Brian
Speaker 1: Callahan do for fun during this four or five week period.
Speaker 2: Generally, in most years, I'll play a little bit of golf.
Speaker 2: I'm not very good at it, but it's my one
Speaker 2: one hobby I have that I enjoy playing. I haven't
Speaker 2: played any golf this year, obviously, I've been a little busy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then my in laws for the last they've had
Speaker 2: a house up in Lake Georgia, New York for about
Speaker 2: twenty plus years, and so every summer since I've met
Speaker 2: my wife, we spend some time up there. So I'm
Speaker 2: a big pull the boat on the lake and be
Speaker 2: on the lake and not do much of anything.
Speaker 3: Is that one of the finger lakes?
Speaker 2: No, it's actually it's just south of Lake Champlain, So
Speaker 2: it's Vermont, New York board. Okay, so right up just
Speaker 2: straight north of Albany, about forty five minutes and we've
Speaker 2: learned something. Yeah, at the OTP, Well, it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 2: It gets up in Adirondack, so it's it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of hilly and it's really pretty.
Speaker 4: Oh it sounds just fantastic. How in the world do
Speaker 4: you turn your brain off of all of this stuff?
Speaker 4: Think about all the details that are just living in
Speaker 4: your head right now?
Speaker 3: You don't, you know, you do try to get either
Speaker 3: from it.
Speaker 2: But I would just say there's it's sort of a
Speaker 2: constant thing when as I'm learning, when you're in in
Speaker 2: in the head coaching role, is you're always thinking about something.
Speaker 2: It might be as simple as you know, the schedule
Speaker 2: for an off day in training camp, it might be
Speaker 2: the roster thought, but you're always there's always something going on.
Speaker 2: What how do I want to message this part of training?
Speaker 2: You know, all those things are sort of always churning.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think it ever really shuts off.
Speaker 2: It's probably the best way to put it. There's no
Speaker 2: real break. My mind is always moving, but I would
Speaker 2: say there is. You know, this time of year particularly,
Speaker 2: you get a chance to at least step back and
Speaker 2: maybe focus on some things that you know, like your family.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, at the point, so we met your
Speaker 1: family when you came in after you'd accepted the job. Nora, yep,
Speaker 1: and she's nine, be turning nine in July, so nine.
Speaker 1: And then Ronan, who we really met. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: you think he's rolling man. You think he owns the
Speaker 1: place well, and he think I think he did so.
Speaker 1: From January to now, roughly six months, how has he
Speaker 1: reacted to dad being the head coach full time? What
Speaker 1: new developments have gone on with him?
Speaker 2: You know, I think that not much. I don't think
Speaker 2: they really they get it. I think that they love
Speaker 2: coming to the office. That's their favorite thing to do
Speaker 2: for whatever reason. That's just that's like all they want
Speaker 2: to do is come here. I'm like, guys, I don't
Speaker 2: really want to go there right now, but they just
Speaker 2: they they think it's like the coolest thing in the world.
Speaker 2: And that's how I grew up too, is playing around
Speaker 2: in football facilities, forever, So that part's fun. I think
Speaker 2: they don't really get it though. I don't think they
Speaker 2: really understand. Probably until the season starts, I think they'll
Speaker 2: they'll have a better picture for what that looks like.
Speaker 2: But and they think they're more just excited and they
Speaker 2: just want to come color on the whiteboards and run
Speaker 2: around the building. That's great, that's their that's their that's
Speaker 2: their main goal.
Speaker 1: We're going to work with dad, regardless of what dad does.
Speaker 1: It's cool, it's cool. Yeah, it's a great thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a cool thing to do. Well, speaking of dads,
Speaker 4: now that you work with your father. When when you
Speaker 4: have kids, especially when you have free time, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of going to visit the grandparents, especially during off times.
Speaker 4: And for the longest time, you and your dad kind
Speaker 4: of had competing schedules and they lined up perfectly, and
Speaker 4: so this was the time that you had to go
Speaker 4: see each other. Do you have to vacation with your
Speaker 4: parents anymore? Or is the show kind of over?
Speaker 2: In that funny thing is actually all my my brothers
Speaker 2: and sisters are all coming here, which is great because
Speaker 2: we normally we would take like a week vacation as
Speaker 2: a family. Someone we'd meet somewhere in the summertime, and
Speaker 2: so it's convenient because they all have to come to
Speaker 2: Nashville for a couple for a couple of days. But
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's going to look like in
Speaker 2: the you know future. You're like, I will say this
Speaker 2: other for all the day, like we're together all the time,
Speaker 2: and for all the time we spend together, there's definitely
Speaker 2: I might go two or three days without even like
Speaker 2: seeing my dad, if that makes like just in but
Speaker 2: we're all we're kind of all working, and so there's
Speaker 2: it's not like I'm you know, constantly with him all
Speaker 2: the time, and so there's like all of a sudden yesterday,
Speaker 2: I think it had been like three days since I
Speaker 2: sat down and talked to him, and I just went
Speaker 2: and sat in his office and I was, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, go talk to my dad, not not go
Speaker 2: and talk to coach, you know. And so it's I
Speaker 2: don't think it's it's really hard to articulate, I think,
Speaker 2: but there is still like a work relationship, and then
Speaker 2: there's you know, father son, grandparents, and so future wise,
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll still do something. But my kids are
Speaker 2: the ones that are way more excited about it because
Speaker 2: Grandma and Grandpa right down the street and huge for
Speaker 2: my daughter and my daughter and my my mom and
Speaker 2: my daughter have like a really kind of cool relationship,
Speaker 2: and so she's fired up.
Speaker 3: She can't wait too.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the ten minutes from Grandma's house, like fired up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of cookies, Yeah, yes, a lot of cookies,
Speaker 1: A lot of fun, a lot of fun. So in
Speaker 1: watching your dad at practice, I think the thing that
Speaker 1: I enjoy most is how all the coaches and former
Speaker 1: coaches who come to practice have to go watch your
Speaker 1: dad work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing they have to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: they don't want to watch the quarterbacks and the receivers
Speaker 1: and the defensive backs. They'll get to them. They're excited,
Speaker 1: but they have to go watch Bill Callahan coach. Not
Speaker 1: necessarily watching the offensive line per se. They have to
Speaker 1: watch him coach. What a compliment.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty incredible. He's earned that, right, you know,
Speaker 2: over the years, and he's he's garnered a lot of
Speaker 2: respect in the coaching community people eliz them as strange
Speaker 2: as that sounds to me, but but he's he's deserving
Speaker 2: of it. I mean, he's he's he's one of the
Speaker 2: there's there's guys that get to certain points in their
Speaker 2: careers and and we've always I've always defined him as
Speaker 2: sort of like master coaches, and all these guys that
Speaker 2: that are are so good at what they do and
Speaker 2: and done it for so long at such a high level,
Speaker 2: they become almost it's like a legendary, legendary almost in
Speaker 2: a sense. And and more so just because everyone watches
Speaker 2: and they just have so much respect for for what
Speaker 2: he's done in his career. And so all these guys
Speaker 2: come in and visit and come seeing former coaches, they
Speaker 2: just want to go watch them coach because he's he's
Speaker 2: got such a reputation as that as a coach that's
Speaker 2: worth watching, you know. And I think that's an incredible
Speaker 2: compliment that guys in our profession feel that way about
Speaker 2: him and look up to him that way, that that's
Speaker 2: the that's what they want to go see, is they
Speaker 2: want to go see him coach. And it's a huge compliment.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So when the huge family comes into town, are you
Speaker 1: going down to like Broadway to the honky tonks?
Speaker 3: Are you Broadway Broadway? You don't know. No, I'm sure
Speaker 3: my younger sister and I don't know if I'll be out.
Speaker 3: Would you get recognized yet? A little bit? Okay, so
Speaker 3: that not a lot.
Speaker 2: I still can run, you know, relative I'm relatively anonymous.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm I'm like anonymous looking too. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's I don't know if I'm like it's not.
Speaker 2: I've not had it.
Speaker 3: We haven't done your TV show yet, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 3: not like real forward yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't played a game on television yet, which
Speaker 2: is which is good. I'm enjoying that part. It's not
Speaker 2: crazy people. I feel people look at me. It's like
Speaker 2: they like recognized. I'm not sure where like why so
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like I feel vision sometimes like
Speaker 2: it's really it's a very new thing for me and
Speaker 2: it's sometimes very awkward. But I feel people looking at me,
Speaker 2: but they don't say anything, and it's almost I'd almost
Speaker 2: rather someone like say something because they think.
Speaker 1: Here, here's what they're thinking. They're thinking now, is he
Speaker 1: our new pastor?
Speaker 3: Is that the weather goud channel whatever? Seen him look
Speaker 3: like somebody on the plane with me the other day.
Speaker 3: That's what it is. That's what it feels like is.
Speaker 1: But the best thing about being here is that people
Speaker 1: will come up to you in the grocery store and
Speaker 1: they'll just say, I just want to want to let
Speaker 1: you know I'm behind you.
Speaker 2: You know what I've had. I've had a few of those,
Speaker 2: and that's part's really cool. I mean, the welcome, the
Speaker 2: respect people show has been pretty phenomenal. Every everything that
Speaker 2: I would have I've heard about, you know that the
Speaker 2: Southern hospitality and the and the friendliness and the kindness,
Speaker 2: all those things have have shown up in most of
Speaker 2: the interactions I've had.
Speaker 3: And you know, and people don't.
Speaker 2: People have been very respectful, very complimentary, and they sort
Speaker 2: of say alone, kind of keep it moving. And I
Speaker 2: think that's that's pretty cool. They're kind yeah, and polite. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say all those things are true. The random
Speaker 2: one the other day, I was I went to a
Speaker 2: coffee shop over by my house and I walked in
Speaker 2: and Taylor the Long in there, and you recognize him
Speaker 2: because he stands out Yeah, And I and I had
Speaker 2: just done their their their podcast a couple of weeks back,
Speaker 2: and I just said, hey, Taylor, what's up man, And
Speaker 2: like nobody else, he took him a second to recognize
Speaker 2: me to you know, he's like, oh, hey, hey, hey, uh,
Speaker 2: but you know, the place was pretty crowded and nobody
Speaker 2: else really setting, you know, so I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: he's like, you're just kind of moving around town, huh,
Speaker 2: pretty anonymously. I was like, I guess. And so that's
Speaker 2: that's kind of what my experience has been so far.
Speaker 2: I haven't had a whole lot of interaction that's you know, uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Have you actually been able to do things in town?
Speaker 4: Have you seen any of Nashville outside of Ascension, Saint
Speaker 4: Thomas Sports?
Speaker 2: I have not a lot, but I have some. I've
Speaker 2: been out of camp full of times, a couple of restaurants.
Speaker 2: I mean, the food here is fantastic. Everywhere I've been
Speaker 2: has been an excellent meal. A little bit of that
Speaker 2: I've I've been.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: Haven't been a couple of Preds games, of I want to.
Speaker 2: I still looking forward to going to the baseball stadium
Speaker 2: watching some baseball, which is kind of one of the
Speaker 2: summer pastime go watch some baseball. But it's a really
Speaker 2: good park, that's what I've heard. I've heard it's a
Speaker 2: really good park. And then I've been. I've been to.
Speaker 2: We've been up to the twelve thirty Club a few
Speaker 2: times because Rand had gone there.
Speaker 3: Ran.
Speaker 2: That's kind of RAN's spot. He was at a bunch
Speaker 2: and so I've been there a few times. I have
Speaker 2: not really like dove down into the Broadway honky tonk
Speaker 2: scene much.
Speaker 3: You've got to do a concert at the Ryman. That's
Speaker 3: on the list. You've got to do the list. I've
Speaker 3: heard that. And you've got to go to the Grand
Speaker 3: Ole Opera. Yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 1: It is so special that it has the history and
Speaker 1: tradition and when you're there, you're like, I am so
Speaker 1: glad I'm here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get it. When you're there, you feel it.
Speaker 2: That's is it kind of like I feel like the
Speaker 2: Ryman and that and the Grand Opera like Red Rocks,
Speaker 2: and it's like Red Rocks is a place so you
Speaker 2: just you just need to go experience. Doesn't matter who's playing, right,
Speaker 2: you just got to go experience it. And it's it's
Speaker 2: it's just that it's an experience. It's one of the
Speaker 2: I feel like those are the same type of place
Speaker 2: as that you got to check them off the list
Speaker 2: exactly to the Station Inn then at the Goulds, which
Speaker 2: is like this old yeah, old, like it's a bluegrass place, okay,
Speaker 2: And it was one of the coolest. I mean it was.
Speaker 2: We just ramly walked in there one night and really
Speaker 2: a good band was playing, and my wife's a big
Speaker 2: bluegrass fan, and we sat there for like two hours. Yes,
Speaker 2: so I kind of sat off in the corner just
Speaker 2: watch these these guys play blue grass.
Speaker 3: Was phenomenal.
Speaker 4: It was, and you can do that anyway.
Speaker 1: But you know what, that's my biggest disappointment with myself
Speaker 1: is every time I go hear live music, I think,
Speaker 1: why don't I do this more?
Speaker 4: H It's one of my favorite things about this city.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna I mean, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do quite a bit of it because I love I
Speaker 2: love watching music, So I mean I'm all in on
Speaker 2: the music.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love it.
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Speaker 3: So Titans fans, let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Too about how you're going to play the preseason. How
Speaker 1: do you in your coaching philosophy from an evaluation standpoint,
Speaker 1: see preseason games.
Speaker 2: Preseason is important. I think I've learned some lessons over
Speaker 2: the years. We you know, we kind of adopted that
Speaker 2: La Rams mentality when when we got to Cincinnati where
Speaker 2: we didn't play our starters at all, we had some
Speaker 2: injuries with with Burrow.
Speaker 3: Last year.
Speaker 2: We were going to play our starters more because we've
Speaker 2: we had been a kind of slow starting team out
Speaker 2: of the gate, and that was one of the things
Speaker 2: we felt like might help us as playing in the
Speaker 2: preseason more. And obviously we weren't going to put our
Speaker 2: guys out there in Cincinnati without Joe with them. It
Speaker 2: just didn't make sense. So I believe in those guys
Speaker 2: playing time in the preseason. I think it helps. It
Speaker 2: helps you get ready for the opener. So the opener
Speaker 2: is not the first time you've been tackled or the
Speaker 2: first time you hit a game speed, and even the
Speaker 2: preseason game speeds that's the same as the regular season.
Speaker 2: It's still playing live football, and I think starters playing
Speaker 2: a little bit in those games I think is going
Speaker 2: to go a long way. The joint practices will be
Speaker 2: important where we get a ton of work against a
Speaker 2: team in a more controlled environment, but you'll see our
Speaker 2: starters play in the preseason.
Speaker 4: With that mindset, how quickly do you want to establish
Speaker 4: kind of who those fifty three are going to be?
Speaker 2: You know, every year your roster, you probably know who
Speaker 2: let's call it forty something. You know, you got a
Speaker 2: pretty good idea, but then there's a handful of battles
Speaker 2: at some spots, some of the depth spots, some of
Speaker 2: the special team spots that are are truly up for
Speaker 2: grabs that somebody could take. And so you've got a
Speaker 2: pretty good idea of what you're going to look like
Speaker 2: around most of your starting positions. But then it's just
Speaker 2: a matter of what is the those those last couple
Speaker 2: of pieces of the roster that people are fighting for.
Speaker 2: But you certainly want to have a you know, when
Speaker 2: you're having competition up front, for example, offensive line, you'd
Speaker 2: like to get that solidified sooner than later, because you
Speaker 2: want those guys to bank reps and play together. So
Speaker 2: that's when you talk about that. Certainly, you'd love to
Speaker 2: have your five starters pretty solidified sooner than later. But
Speaker 2: I think a lot of our battles are going to
Speaker 2: go probably well to the wire and training camp. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of opportunity for guys
Speaker 2: to compete and have a chance start to earn themselves
Speaker 2: a job.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the five starters on the offensive line. Do
Speaker 1: you feel the same way about the twenty two starters
Speaker 1: overall getting them established as quickly as possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hope.
Speaker 2: So there's also the other part of it is that
Speaker 2: you hope that you know there's there's guys that are
Speaker 2: still even though their starters, are still preparing and fighting
Speaker 2: like they have a job that's up for crabs because
Speaker 2: that competition makes your team better. And so you hope
Speaker 2: that there's enough competition across the board for spots that
Speaker 2: I'm really pis those guys to not be complacent either,
Speaker 2: to know that you know, the minute you show up
Speaker 2: here and you think you got it all, you know, usually.
Speaker 3: You get beat out by somebody.
Speaker 2: But the competition is good, and so I hope that
Speaker 2: you want to play guys together, but you also want
Speaker 2: the same mentality of guys that are trying to earn
Speaker 2: them selves spots, even if their spot is solidified, you know,
Speaker 2: by contractual status or how much they've played. But I
Speaker 2: hope that we get a bunch of really good competition.
Speaker 1: At fifty three guys on the active roster. When you
Speaker 1: go to Chicago, you'll certainly have the ability to call
Speaker 1: up people from the practice squad. But I wonder this
Speaker 1: being a first time head coach, do you already have
Speaker 1: in your mind how the game day forty eight will
Speaker 1: fit together, or do you have to wait and see
Speaker 1: how the roster is set before you can make your
Speaker 1: mind up about that.
Speaker 2: I have an outline of what I think it'll look like,
Speaker 2: and then there's going to be those weekly decisions that
Speaker 2: come up. A lot of it's going to be in
Speaker 2: in the special team's realm. Where who's going to contribute there,
Speaker 2: and what's their value on the roster as the third
Speaker 2: running back or the fourth and fifth receivers or you know,
Speaker 2: where where are those guys playing roles? And that to
Speaker 2: me is usually where that gymnastics comes into play before
Speaker 2: you get to the injury part, which hopefully there's not
Speaker 2: too many of those. Will knock Hoover playing wherever you
Speaker 2: can knock, Yeah, you should have been around.
Speaker 4: Here the last three years, well knock anything.
Speaker 2: And so that hopefully is you know, when you get
Speaker 2: to that point where you're you're juggling injuries and rosters,
Speaker 2: that that part will kind of solve itself. But the
Speaker 2: special teams part is really where the unknowns are at
Speaker 2: this point and then where those guys are going to
Speaker 2: fit in what roles?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: And then do you take You got to take some
Speaker 2: guys that maybe are really good Special Tams players but
Speaker 2: maybe not going to help you on either in any position,
Speaker 2: but their their role as a four phase best teams
Speaker 2: player is going to be critical, and so you may
Speaker 2: have to take that guy over a guy you think
Speaker 2: is you know, on game day, you might have to
Speaker 2: sit one guy down that's not going to help you
Speaker 2: as much because they're only going to play seven to
Speaker 2: ten snaps when those other guy's going to play you know,
Speaker 2: twenty special team snaps for you too. So it kind
Speaker 2: of goes there's a lot of juggling when it gets
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned the special teams component, and there have
Speaker 4: been some changes to what special teams is going to
Speaker 4: look like in twenty twenty four in a variety of
Speaker 4: different ways. How does that impact the calculus of what
Speaker 4: you are trying to put together and maybe who you
Speaker 4: choose to put where.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, the kickoff obviously is going
Speaker 2: to be a huge change. I don't know what that's
Speaker 2: going to look like yet, you know, I think we
Speaker 2: have to get pads on and play and experiment. I
Speaker 2: think the preseason will be fun to watch and see
Speaker 2: what people do. They won't show you everything, but I
Speaker 2: do think as we get more comfortable with what that
Speaker 2: kickoff rule looks like, you can start making maybe some
Speaker 2: personnel changes. I know Cole has messed with some lineups,
Speaker 2: but you know, the types of guys you might use
Speaker 2: in that spot might be different now than they used
Speaker 2: to so hard to know for sure, but I think
Speaker 2: we're kind of open to the possibility that may change
Speaker 2: how you can figure some of your roster because those
Speaker 2: spots are different now than maybe they used to be
Speaker 2: on the kickoff and kickoff return, so that part will
Speaker 2: be exciting. I'm not a you know, I'm an offensive
Speaker 2: guy in the quarterback guy, so I spent most of
Speaker 2: my time there and the special teams never really intrigued
Speaker 2: me much. But the new kickoff, to me, is intriguing.
Speaker 2: That PARTI really fun to kind of see what that's
Speaker 2: going to look like.
Speaker 1: Well, who are your returners? Do you go with a small,
Speaker 1: quick guy or a bigger guy who can break a tackle,
Speaker 1: and go who needs to be on the kick cover team?
Speaker 1: Who needs to be on the return team because you
Speaker 1: actually have a real chance to block somebody now, which
Speaker 1: as before it was very hard to get a real
Speaker 1: block on somebody. And then the discussion of who the
Speaker 1: kicker needs to be based on the fact that, as
Speaker 1: they played this out in the UFL and overall, the
Speaker 1: actual kicker had to make a lot of tackles, a
Speaker 1: lot more than than normal. And some teams are even
Speaker 1: talking about using a safety who has had kickoff experience,
Speaker 1: maybe in high school, as the kicker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure we have one
Speaker 2: of those. I'm not sure we have a guy that
Speaker 2: can kick and cover, I know, but there is some
Speaker 2: guys out there that head I think their especially coordinator
Speaker 2: might have came out and and even said they've practiced
Speaker 2: with him in that role because you gain an advantage.
Speaker 2: You know, you gain an extra tuckler, and the kicking
Speaker 2: is a little bit less about the distance now and
Speaker 2: so you don't have to have one's got a big leg.
Speaker 2: You can just as long as they can get the
Speaker 2: ball in the air and put in the landing zone.
Speaker 2: You've now gained an extra cover player. So I would
Speaker 2: venture to guess there's a handful of teams that will
Speaker 2: do that. And maybe that's you know, now all the
Speaker 2: scouts are on the road this fall looking at safety kickers,
Speaker 2: you know, you know guys, that's guys got some flex,
Speaker 2: some roster value the full Yeah, but I don't think
Speaker 2: it's that far fetched. I think if you if you
Speaker 2: found one that could kick it well enough, it's certainly
Speaker 2: an advantage. And I think the teams are gonna that
Speaker 2: have one of a guy that could do that, well,
Speaker 2: that'll work out, you know, to a small advantage for them. Brian,
Speaker 2: how much of that do you think you'll learn about
Speaker 2: in the preseason? Will anybody show much?
Speaker 3: No? Okay, no, I don't think they'll just kick it. No.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to show I think people want
Speaker 2: to see I think the the general concessus that I've
Speaker 2: gathered is that most teams want to see it be
Speaker 2: played out and and in in its most basic form
Speaker 2: in the preseason. There's not going to be a bunch
Speaker 2: of scheme, but I think just to see what it
Speaker 2: looks like live, because you're not practicing that live at
Speaker 2: any point during practice. I think that it'll be fun
Speaker 2: for the joint practices to see that against the opponent.
Speaker 2: But I don't know what that's gonna I think I
Speaker 2: think you'll see a lot of returns. I don't think
Speaker 2: you'll see the the schematics that some of the you know,
Speaker 2: whatever the wrinkles people are going to have. I think
Speaker 2: you'll see a lot of just kick and cover so
Speaker 2: people can just watch it play out and see what
Speaker 2: it's going to look like.
Speaker 3: The pundits who love the geekery like I.
Speaker 1: Do, the geeky, I mean, I mean it's a I
Speaker 1: mean it truly is, because I think in listening to them,
Speaker 1: they may be right that early in the season we're
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of returns, and as people
Speaker 1: start to see the returns become the first offensive play
Speaker 1: of the game, for real that by mid season people
Speaker 1: just be kicking in the end zone and giving you
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 3: At the thirty. I think there's going to be.
Speaker 2: A risk reward, and I think there's gonna be teams
Speaker 2: that maybe become really good at it, and you become
Speaker 2: concerned about that and say, well, we're better off. The
Speaker 2: chance of them getting to the forty five or the
Speaker 2: fifty on the kickoff is pretty good because there they
Speaker 2: got a dynamic returner, or they have a their scheme
Speaker 2: is really good. Whatever that may be, you're gonna see
Speaker 2: a lot more. I would venture to guess teams that
Speaker 2: maybe not feel as confident in what what they have
Speaker 2: versus what the other team has. And you may just
Speaker 2: say this, they're going to conceive the ball at thirty
Speaker 2: and just kicking an end zone. That wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 2: at all. Can I ask one more kicking question?
Speaker 3: Amy? Oh? Please?
Speaker 4: Okaya kicking here?
Speaker 1: So Folk is back and he's almost forty the young
Speaker 1: man from NC State and Harvissen is here and he
Speaker 1: appears to have quite a leg. Is that going to
Speaker 1: be something we need to watch when preseason starts in
Speaker 1: a few weeks.
Speaker 3: No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think Nick's at any any real risk of
Speaker 2: losing his job. I think that it's good to have
Speaker 2: two kickers in camp, and I think obviously Nick has
Speaker 2: kicked for a long time, and so you are in
Speaker 2: for us as organizationally, you always want to have the
Speaker 2: succession planning in place for guys that that have played
Speaker 2: as long as as Nick has and and Morgan Cox
Speaker 2: two is they you know, these guys have They're very
Speaker 2: established and they've been great players for a long time
Speaker 2: at their jobs, and you always want to have a
Speaker 2: in the back of your mind, Okay, well, what what
Speaker 2: happens next year of Nick DESI this is it for him?
Speaker 2: Or if you you know what I mean. That's you
Speaker 2: always have to plan for that. And so having and kickers,
Speaker 2: I've generally felt like young kickers need, you know, the
Speaker 2: exception of a handful, they need time, they need to
Speaker 2: learn how to kick. In the NFL, a lot of guys,
Speaker 2: you know, you see these guys kicking camps for two
Speaker 2: three years and they finally getting the opportunity. So you're
Speaker 2: sort of always having that almost training ground for the
Speaker 2: next guy. So I think that's going to be a
Speaker 2: part of having two kickers in camp too.
Speaker 1: Coach Brian Callahan, enjoy the rest of your offseason. Thank
Speaker 1: you for both parts of this. We have enjoyed having
Speaker 1: you with us so much. Always a pleasure for Amy
Speaker 1: Wells and hit Coach Brian Callahan, Mike Keith, thanks you
Speaker 1: for listening and watching the O t P.
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