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We're continuing the conversation with the coach. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.720 Let me ask you first and foremost, what does Brian 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.840 Callahan do for fun during this four or five week period. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.800 Generally, in most years, I'll play a little bit of golf. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:00.880 I'm not very good at it, but it's my one 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.520 one hobby I have that I enjoy playing. I haven't 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.600 played any golf this year, obviously, I've been a little busy. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:08.840 Yeah. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.520 And then my in laws for the last they've had 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.520 a house up in Lake Georgia, New York for about 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.360 twenty plus years, and so every summer since I've met 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.360 my wife, we spend some time up there. So I'm 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.720 a big pull the boat on the lake and be 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.400 on the lake and not do much of anything. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.640 Is that one of the finger lakes? 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.640 No, it's actually it's just south of Lake Champlain, So 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.039 it's Vermont, New York board. Okay, so right up just 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.480 straight north of Albany, about forty five minutes and we've 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.840 learned something. Yeah, at the OTP, Well, it's a beautiful place. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.039 It gets up in Adirondack, so it's it's you know, 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.760 it's kind of hilly and it's really pretty. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.080 Oh it sounds just fantastic. How in the world do 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.360 you turn your brain off of all of this stuff? 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.640 Think about all the details that are just living in 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:54.440 your head right now? 0:01:54.480 --> 0:02:00.320 You don't, you know, you do try to get either 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:00.760 from it. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.360 But I would just say there's it's sort of a 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.079 constant thing when as I'm learning, when you're in in 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.760 in the head coaching role, is you're always thinking about something. 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.320 It might be as simple as you know, the schedule 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.079 for an off day in training camp, it might be 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.400 the roster thought, but you're always there's always something going on. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.600 What how do I want to message this part of training? 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.640 You know, all those things are sort of always churning. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.519 So yeah, I don't think it ever really shuts off. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.800 It's probably the best way to put it. There's no 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.360 real break. My mind is always moving, but I would 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.720 say there is. You know, this time of year particularly, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.040 you get a chance to at least step back and 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.920 maybe focus on some things that you know, like your family. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.400 So yeah, yeah, at the point, so we met your 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:57.080 family when you came in after you'd accepted the job. Nora, yep, 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.919 and she's nine, be turning nine in July, so nine. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.560 And then Ronan, who we really met. I mean, he's 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.640 you think he's rolling man. You think he owns the 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.200 place well, and he think I think he did so. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:17.800 From January to now, roughly six months, how has he 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.680 reacted to dad being the head coach full time? What 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.360 new developments have gone on with him? 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.480 You know, I think that not much. I don't think 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:31.799 they really they get it. I think that they love 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.359 coming to the office. That's their favorite thing to do 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.560 for whatever reason. That's just that's like all they want 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.119 to do is come here. I'm like, guys, I don't 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.400 really want to go there right now, but they just 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.240 they they think it's like the coolest thing in the world. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:46.960 And that's how I grew up too, is playing around 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.040 in football facilities, forever, So that part's fun. I think 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.200 they don't really get it though. I don't think they 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:57.360 really understand. Probably until the season starts, I think they'll 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.200 they'll have a better picture for what that looks like. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.280 But and they think they're more just excited and they 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.680 just want to come color on the whiteboards and run 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.360 around the building. That's great, that's their that's their that's 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:08.880 their main goal. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.080 We're going to work with dad, regardless of what dad does. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.480 It's cool, it's cool. Yeah, it's a great thing. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.960 Yeah, it's a cool thing to do. Well, speaking of dads, 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.520 now that you work with your father. When when you 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.520 have kids, especially when you have free time, there's a 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.840 lot of going to visit the grandparents, especially during off times. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.120 And for the longest time, you and your dad kind 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.080 of had competing schedules and they lined up perfectly, and 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.479 so this was the time that you had to go 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.039 see each other. Do you have to vacation with your 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.479 parents anymore? Or is the show kind of over? 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.240 In that funny thing is actually all my my brothers 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.440 and sisters are all coming here, which is great because 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.560 we normally we would take like a week vacation as 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.200 a family. Someone we'd meet somewhere in the summertime, and 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.960 so it's convenient because they all have to come to 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.839 Nashville for a couple for a couple of days. But 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:56.560 I don't know what that's going to look like in 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.400 the you know future. You're like, I will say this 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.840 other for all the day, like we're together all the time, 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:03.960 and for all the time we spend together, there's definitely 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.720 I might go two or three days without even like 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.840 seeing my dad, if that makes like just in but 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.600 we're all we're kind of all working, and so there's 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:18.040 it's not like I'm you know, constantly with him all 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.040 the time, and so there's like all of a sudden yesterday, 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.360 I think it had been like three days since I 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.280 sat down and talked to him, and I just went 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.000 and sat in his office and I was, you know, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.360 it's like, go talk to my dad, not not go 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.880 and talk to coach, you know. And so it's I 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.800 don't think it's it's really hard to articulate, I think, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:40.920 but there is still like a work relationship, and then 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:48.560 there's you know, father son, grandparents, and so future wise, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.680 I'm sure we'll still do something. But my kids are 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.480 the ones that are way more excited about it because 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.720 Grandma and Grandpa right down the street and huge for 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.039 my daughter and my daughter and my my mom and 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.640 my daughter have like a really kind of cool relationship, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.400 and so she's fired up. 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:03.159 She can't wait too. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.680 Oh that's the ten minutes from Grandma's house, like fired up. 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:07.640 Yeah. 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.279 A lot of cookies, Yeah, yes, a lot of cookies, 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.279 A lot of fun, a lot of fun. So in 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.039 watching your dad at practice, I think the thing that 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.800 I enjoy most is how all the coaches and former 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.640 coaches who come to practice have to go watch your 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:28.239 dad work. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:29.279 Yeah, that's. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.560 That's the first thing they have to do. I mean, 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.000 they don't want to watch the quarterbacks and the receivers 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.480 and the defensive backs. They'll get to them. They're excited, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.040 but they have to go watch Bill Callahan coach. Not 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.560 necessarily watching the offensive line per se. They have to 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.240 watch him coach. What a compliment. 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:53.120 I think it's pretty incredible. He's earned that, right, you know, 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.320 over the years, and he's he's garnered a lot of 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:01.599 respect in the coaching community people eliz them as strange 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.360 as that sounds to me, but but he's he's deserving 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.279 of it. I mean, he's he's he's one of the 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.040 there's there's guys that get to certain points in their 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.160 careers and and we've always I've always defined him as 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.560 sort of like master coaches, and all these guys that 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.520 that are are so good at what they do and 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.600 and done it for so long at such a high level, 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.840 they become almost it's like a legendary, legendary almost in 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.160 a sense. And and more so just because everyone watches 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.280 and they just have so much respect for for what 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.840 he's done in his career. And so all these guys 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.040 come in and visit and come seeing former coaches, they 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.240 just want to go watch them coach because he's he's 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.000 got such a reputation as that as a coach that's 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.920 worth watching, you know. And I think that's an incredible 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.400 compliment that guys in our profession feel that way about 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.120 him and look up to him that way, that that's 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:47.400 the that's what they want to go see, is they 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.240 want to go see him coach. And it's a huge compliment. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:50.920 It's pretty cool. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.160 So when the huge family comes into town, are you 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.720 going down to like Broadway to the honky tonks? 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.880 Are you Broadway Broadway? You don't know. No, I'm sure 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:06.760 my younger sister and I don't know if I'll be out. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.720 Would you get recognized yet? A little bit? Okay, so 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:12.600 that not a lot. 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:17.840 I still can run, you know, relative I'm relatively anonymous. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.880 Maybe I'm I'm like anonymous looking too. I don't know 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.120 if it's I don't know if I'm like it's not. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:24.600 I've not had it. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.440 We haven't done your TV show yet, I'm not. I'm 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:29.560 not like real forward yet. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.920 Yeah, we haven't played a game on television yet, which 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.960 is which is good. I'm enjoying that part. It's not 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.920 crazy people. I feel people look at me. It's like 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.200 they like recognized. I'm not sure where like why so 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.680 I feel I feel like I feel vision sometimes like 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.520 it's really it's a very new thing for me and 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.880 it's sometimes very awkward. But I feel people looking at me, 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.760 but they don't say anything, and it's almost I'd almost 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.600 rather someone like say something because they think. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.320 Here, here's what they're thinking. They're thinking now, is he 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.800 our new pastor? 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:06.480 Is that the weather goud channel whatever? Seen him look 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.160 like somebody on the plane with me the other day. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.080 That's what it is. That's what it feels like is. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.080 But the best thing about being here is that people 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.080 will come up to you in the grocery store and 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:18.920 they'll just say, I just want to want to let 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.120 you know I'm behind you. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:21.719 You know what I've had. I've had a few of those, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.600 and that's part's really cool. I mean, the welcome, the 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.760 respect people show has been pretty phenomenal. Every everything that 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.200 I would have I've heard about, you know that the 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.480 Southern hospitality and the and the friendliness and the kindness, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.480 all those things have have shown up in most of 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:37.360 the interactions I've had. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.240 And you know, and people don't. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:44.920 People have been very respectful, very complimentary, and they sort 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.440 of say alone, kind of keep it moving. And I 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.280 think that's that's pretty cool. They're kind yeah, and polite. Yeah, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.640 I would say all those things are true. The random 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.160 one the other day, I was I went to a 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.120 coffee shop over by my house and I walked in 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.880 and Taylor the Long in there, and you recognize him 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.560 because he stands out Yeah, And I and I had 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.520 just done their their their podcast a couple of weeks back, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.920 and I just said, hey, Taylor, what's up man, And 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.439 like nobody else, he took him a second to recognize 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.040 me to you know, he's like, oh, hey, hey, hey, uh, 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.960 but you know, the place was pretty crowded and nobody 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.439 else really setting, you know, so I was like, Oh, 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.600 he's like, you're just kind of moving around town, huh, 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.559 pretty anonymously. I was like, I guess. And so that's 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.240 that's kind of what my experience has been so far. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:35.240 I haven't had a whole lot of interaction that's you know, uncomfortable. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.000 Have you actually been able to do things in town? 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.040 Have you seen any of Nashville outside of Ascension, Saint 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:42.960 Thomas Sports? 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.800 I have not a lot, but I have some. I've 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.600 been out of camp full of times, a couple of restaurants. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.160 I mean, the food here is fantastic. Everywhere I've been 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.200 has been an excellent meal. A little bit of that 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:54.880 I've I've been. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:56.160 I want to. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.680 Haven't been a couple of Preds games, of I want to. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.920 I still looking forward to going to the baseball stadium 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.880 watching some baseball, which is kind of one of the 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.240 summer pastime go watch some baseball. But it's a really 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.560 good park, that's what I've heard. I've heard it's a 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.880 really good park. And then I've been. I've been to. 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.320 We've been up to the twelve thirty Club a few 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.880 times because Rand had gone there. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:18.200 Ran. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.680 That's kind of RAN's spot. He was at a bunch 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:21.880 and so I've been there a few times. I have 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.680 not really like dove down into the Broadway honky tonk 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:26.280 scene much. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.959 You've got to do a concert at the Ryman. That's 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.760 on the list. You've got to do the list. I've 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.480 heard that. And you've got to go to the Grand 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.000 Ole Opera. Yeah, I mean it is. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.920 It is so special that it has the history and 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.960 tradition and when you're there, you're like, I am so 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:42.800 glad I'm here. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.000 Yeah, you get it. When you're there, you feel it. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:47.920 That's is it kind of like I feel like the 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.880 Ryman and that and the Grand Opera like Red Rocks, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.240 and it's like Red Rocks is a place so you 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.600 just you just need to go experience. Doesn't matter who's playing, right, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.719 you just got to go experience it. And it's it's 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.960 it's just that it's an experience. It's one of the 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.200 I feel like those are the same type of place 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.240 as that you got to check them off the list 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:09.120 exactly to the Station Inn then at the Goulds, which 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:13.400 is like this old yeah, old, like it's a bluegrass place, okay, 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.640 And it was one of the coolest. I mean it was. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.600 We just ramly walked in there one night and really 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.400 a good band was playing, and my wife's a big 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.800 bluegrass fan, and we sat there for like two hours. Yes, 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.040 so I kind of sat off in the corner just 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.240 watch these these guys play blue grass. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:27.880 Was phenomenal. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.480 It was, and you can do that anyway. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.320 But you know what, that's my biggest disappointment with myself 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.280 is every time I go hear live music, I think, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:36.680 why don't I do this more? 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.480 H It's one of my favorite things about this city. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.199 I think I'm gonna I mean, I think I'm gonna 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.200 do quite a bit of it because I love I 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.720 love watching music, So I mean I'm all in on 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:46.080 the music. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.560 Oh yeah, I love it. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.360 We're all in on seat Geek. Seat Geek is now 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.720 the official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.760 That's what I'm supposed to do that it's called sick. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.880 It was a good one, whether you're bid to not really, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.760 whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans games or 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.240 any live event in Nashville. Like live music, Seat Geek 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.600 is the place to do it. Seat Geek the new 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.960 official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.760 So Titans fans, let me ask you. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.320 Too about how you're going to play the preseason. How 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:22.959 do you in your coaching philosophy from an evaluation standpoint, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.240 see preseason games. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.360 Preseason is important. I think I've learned some lessons over 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.600 the years. We you know, we kind of adopted that 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.199 La Rams mentality when when we got to Cincinnati where 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.679 we didn't play our starters at all, we had some 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.440 injuries with with Burrow. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:39.520 Last year. 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.280 We were going to play our starters more because we've 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.520 we had been a kind of slow starting team out 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.320 of the gate, and that was one of the things 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.040 we felt like might help us as playing in the 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.280 preseason more. And obviously we weren't going to put our 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.600 guys out there in Cincinnati without Joe with them. It 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:59.560 just didn't make sense. So I believe in those guys 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.400 playing time in the preseason. I think it helps. It 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.560 helps you get ready for the opener. So the opener 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.760 is not the first time you've been tackled or the 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.000 first time you hit a game speed, and even the 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.160 preseason game speeds that's the same as the regular season. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:17.079 It's still playing live football, and I think starters playing 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.760 a little bit in those games I think is going 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.200 to go a long way. The joint practices will be 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.440 important where we get a ton of work against a 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.080 team in a more controlled environment, but you'll see our 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.360 starters play in the preseason. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.680 With that mindset, how quickly do you want to establish 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.080 kind of who those fifty three are going to be? 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.360 You know, every year your roster, you probably know who 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.840 let's call it forty something. You know, you got a 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.440 pretty good idea, but then there's a handful of battles 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.680 at some spots, some of the depth spots, some of 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.080 the special team spots that are are truly up for 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.720 grabs that somebody could take. And so you've got a 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.280 pretty good idea of what you're going to look like 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.640 around most of your starting positions. But then it's just 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.240 a matter of what is the those those last couple 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.160 of pieces of the roster that people are fighting for. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.880 But you certainly want to have a you know, when 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.520 you're having competition up front, for example, offensive line, you'd 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.440 like to get that solidified sooner than later, because you 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.920 want those guys to bank reps and play together. So 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.920 that's when you talk about that. Certainly, you'd love to 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.880 have your five starters pretty solidified sooner than later. But 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.200 I think a lot of our battles are going to 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.160 go probably well to the wire and training camp. I mean, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.120 there's going to be a lot of opportunity for guys 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.760 to compete and have a chance start to earn themselves 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:32.080 a job. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.760 You mentioned the five starters on the offensive line. Do 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.960 you feel the same way about the twenty two starters 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:42.080 overall getting them established as quickly as possible. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:43.080 Yeah, you hope. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.400 So there's also the other part of it is that 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.800 you hope that you know there's there's guys that are 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.200 still even though their starters, are still preparing and fighting 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.720 like they have a job that's up for crabs because 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.480 that competition makes your team better. And so you hope 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.920 that there's enough competition across the board for spots that 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.960 I'm really pis those guys to not be complacent either, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.080 to know that you know, the minute you show up 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.320 here and you think you got it all, you know, usually. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.240 You get beat out by somebody. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.520 But the competition is good, and so I hope that 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.880 you want to play guys together, but you also want 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.520 the same mentality of guys that are trying to earn 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.720 them selves spots, even if their spot is solidified, you know, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.400 by contractual status or how much they've played. But I 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.560 hope that we get a bunch of really good competition. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.600 At fifty three guys on the active roster. When you 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.280 go to Chicago, you'll certainly have the ability to call 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:35.000 up people from the practice squad. But I wonder this 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.480 being a first time head coach, do you already have 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.840 in your mind how the game day forty eight will 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.320 fit together, or do you have to wait and see 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.720 how the roster is set before you can make your 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:50.640 mind up about that. 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.600 I have an outline of what I think it'll look like, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.440 and then there's going to be those weekly decisions that 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.040 come up. A lot of it's going to be in 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.800 in the special team's realm. Where who's going to contribute there, 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.000 and what's their value on the roster as the third 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.480 running back or the fourth and fifth receivers or you know, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:12.679 where where are those guys playing roles? And that to 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.520 me is usually where that gymnastics comes into play before 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.119 you get to the injury part, which hopefully there's not 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.159 too many of those. Will knock Hoover playing wherever you 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.920 can knock, Yeah, you should have been around. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.959 Here the last three years, well knock anything. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.040 And so that hopefully is you know, when you get 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.840 to that point where you're you're juggling injuries and rosters, 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.720 that that part will kind of solve itself. But the 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.439 special teams part is really where the unknowns are at 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.159 this point and then where those guys are going to 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:44.000 fit in what roles? 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:44.879 Uh? 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.679 And then do you take You got to take some 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.520 guys that maybe are really good Special Tams players but 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.280 maybe not going to help you on either in any position, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.639 but their their role as a four phase best teams 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.640 player is going to be critical, and so you may 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.280 have to take that guy over a guy you think 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.320 is you know, on game day, you might have to 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.119 sit one guy down that's not going to help you 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.080 as much because they're only going to play seven to 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.480 ten snaps when those other guy's going to play you know, 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.920 twenty special team snaps for you too. So it kind 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:12.760 of goes there's a lot of juggling when it gets 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:13.000 to that. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.600 Well, you mentioned the special teams component, and there have 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.119 been some changes to what special teams is going to 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.919 look like in twenty twenty four in a variety of 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.440 different ways. How does that impact the calculus of what 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.320 you are trying to put together and maybe who you 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:29.440 choose to put where. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.080 Yeah, I think you know, the kickoff obviously is going 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.520 to be a huge change. I don't know what that's 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.040 going to look like yet, you know, I think we 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.760 have to get pads on and play and experiment. I 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.680 think the preseason will be fun to watch and see 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.280 what people do. They won't show you everything, but I 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.240 do think as we get more comfortable with what that 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.560 kickoff rule looks like, you can start making maybe some 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.080 personnel changes. I know Cole has messed with some lineups, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.959 but you know, the types of guys you might use 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:56.640