1 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Far Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: dot com. That's FBHP dot com for Farm Bureau Health 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Plans With Amy Wells, I'm Mike Keith and our special 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: guest for part two, Coach Brian Callan. Hey, thanks for 7 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: sticking around or coming back or however we're trying to 8 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: sell this hanging. We're continuing the conversation with the coach. 9 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Let me ask you first and foremost, what does Brian 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Callahan do for fun during this four or five week period. 11 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: Generally, in most years, I'll play a little bit of golf. 12 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm not very good at it, but it's my one 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: one hobby I have that I enjoy playing. I haven't 14 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: played any golf this year, obviously, I've been a little busy. 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: And then my in laws for the last they've had 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: a house up in Lake Georgia, New York for about 18 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: twenty plus years, and so every summer since I've met 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: my wife, we spend some time up there. So I'm 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: a big pull the boat on the lake and be 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: on the lake and not do much of anything. 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: Is that one of the finger lakes? 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: No, it's actually it's just south of Lake Champlain, So 24 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: it's Vermont, New York board. Okay, so right up just 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: straight north of Albany, about forty five minutes and we've 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: learned something. Yeah, at the OTP, Well, it's a beautiful place. 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: It gets up in Adirondack, so it's it's you know, 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: it's kind of hilly and it's really pretty. 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: Oh it sounds just fantastic. How in the world do 30 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 4: you turn your brain off of all of this stuff? 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: Think about all the details that are just living in 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: your head right now? 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: You don't, you know, you do try to get either 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: from it. 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: But I would just say there's it's sort of a 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: constant thing when as I'm learning, when you're in in 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: in the head coaching role, is you're always thinking about something. 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: It might be as simple as you know, the schedule 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: for an off day in training camp, it might be 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: the roster thought, but you're always there's always something going on. 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: What how do I want to message this part of training? 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: You know, all those things are sort of always churning. 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think it ever really shuts off. 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: It's probably the best way to put it. There's no 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: real break. My mind is always moving, but I would 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: say there is. You know, this time of year particularly, 47 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: you get a chance to at least step back and 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: maybe focus on some things that you know, like your family. 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, at the point, so we met your 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: family when you came in after you'd accepted the job. Nora, yep, 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: and she's nine, be turning nine in July, so nine. 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: And then Ronan, who we really met. I mean, he's 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: you think he's rolling man. You think he owns the 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: place well, and he think I think he did so. 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: From January to now, roughly six months, how has he 56 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: reacted to dad being the head coach full time? What 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: new developments have gone on with him? 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: You know, I think that not much. I don't think 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: they really they get it. I think that they love 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: coming to the office. That's their favorite thing to do 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: for whatever reason. That's just that's like all they want 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: to do is come here. I'm like, guys, I don't 63 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: really want to go there right now, but they just 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: they they think it's like the coolest thing in the world. 65 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: And that's how I grew up too, is playing around 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: in football facilities, forever, So that part's fun. I think 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: they don't really get it though. I don't think they 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: really understand. Probably until the season starts, I think they'll 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: they'll have a better picture for what that looks like. 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: But and they think they're more just excited and they 71 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: just want to come color on the whiteboards and run 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: around the building. That's great, that's their that's their that's 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: their main goal. 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: We're going to work with dad, regardless of what dad does. 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: It's cool, it's cool. Yeah, it's a great thing. 76 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a cool thing to do. Well, speaking of dads, 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: now that you work with your father. When when you 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: have kids, especially when you have free time, there's a 79 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: lot of going to visit the grandparents, especially during off times. 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: And for the longest time, you and your dad kind 81 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: of had competing schedules and they lined up perfectly, and 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 4: so this was the time that you had to go 83 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 4: see each other. Do you have to vacation with your 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 4: parents anymore? Or is the show kind of over? 85 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: In that funny thing is actually all my my brothers 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: and sisters are all coming here, which is great because 87 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: we normally we would take like a week vacation as 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: a family. Someone we'd meet somewhere in the summertime, and 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: so it's convenient because they all have to come to 90 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: Nashville for a couple for a couple of days. But 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what that's going to look like in 92 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: the you know future. You're like, I will say this 93 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: other for all the day, like we're together all the time, 94 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: and for all the time we spend together, there's definitely 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: I might go two or three days without even like 96 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: seeing my dad, if that makes like just in but 97 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: we're all we're kind of all working, and so there's 98 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: it's not like I'm you know, constantly with him all 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: the time, and so there's like all of a sudden yesterday, 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: I think it had been like three days since I 101 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: sat down and talked to him, and I just went 102 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: and sat in his office and I was, you know, 103 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: it's like, go talk to my dad, not not go 104 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: and talk to coach, you know. And so it's I 105 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: don't think it's it's really hard to articulate, I think, 106 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: but there is still like a work relationship, and then 107 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: there's you know, father son, grandparents, and so future wise, 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll still do something. But my kids are 109 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: the ones that are way more excited about it because 110 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: Grandma and Grandpa right down the street and huge for 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: my daughter and my daughter and my my mom and 112 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: my daughter have like a really kind of cool relationship, 113 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: and so she's fired up. 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: She can't wait too. 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's the ten minutes from Grandma's house, like fired up. 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 117 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: A lot of cookies, Yeah, yes, a lot of cookies, 118 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: A lot of fun, a lot of fun. So in 119 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: watching your dad at practice, I think the thing that 120 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: I enjoy most is how all the coaches and former 121 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: coaches who come to practice have to go watch your 122 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: dad work. 123 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's. 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: That's the first thing they have to do. I mean, 125 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: they don't want to watch the quarterbacks and the receivers 126 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: and the defensive backs. They'll get to them. They're excited, 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: but they have to go watch Bill Callahan coach. Not 128 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: necessarily watching the offensive line per se. They have to 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: watch him coach. What a compliment. 130 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty incredible. He's earned that, right, you know, 131 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: over the years, and he's he's garnered a lot of 132 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: respect in the coaching community people eliz them as strange 133 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: as that sounds to me, but but he's he's deserving 134 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: of it. I mean, he's he's he's one of the 135 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: there's there's guys that get to certain points in their 136 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: careers and and we've always I've always defined him as 137 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: sort of like master coaches, and all these guys that 138 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: that are are so good at what they do and 139 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: and done it for so long at such a high level, 140 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: they become almost it's like a legendary, legendary almost in 141 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: a sense. And and more so just because everyone watches 142 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: and they just have so much respect for for what 143 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: he's done in his career. And so all these guys 144 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: come in and visit and come seeing former coaches, they 145 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: just want to go watch them coach because he's he's 146 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: got such a reputation as that as a coach that's 147 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: worth watching, you know. And I think that's an incredible 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: compliment that guys in our profession feel that way about 149 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: him and look up to him that way, that that's 150 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: the that's what they want to go see, is they 151 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: want to go see him coach. And it's a huge compliment. 152 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. 153 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: So when the huge family comes into town, are you 154 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: going down to like Broadway to the honky tonks? 155 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: Are you Broadway Broadway? You don't know. No, I'm sure 156 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: my younger sister and I don't know if I'll be out. 157 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: Would you get recognized yet? A little bit? Okay, so 158 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: that not a lot. 159 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: I still can run, you know, relative I'm relatively anonymous. 160 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm I'm like anonymous looking too. I don't know 161 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: if it's I don't know if I'm like it's not. 162 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: I've not had it. 163 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: We haven't done your TV show yet, I'm not. I'm 164 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: not like real forward yet. 165 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't played a game on television yet, which 166 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: is which is good. I'm enjoying that part. It's not 167 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: crazy people. I feel people look at me. It's like 168 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: they like recognized. I'm not sure where like why so 169 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: I feel I feel like I feel vision sometimes like 170 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: it's really it's a very new thing for me and 171 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: it's sometimes very awkward. But I feel people looking at me, 172 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: but they don't say anything, and it's almost I'd almost 173 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: rather someone like say something because they think. 174 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: Here, here's what they're thinking. They're thinking now, is he 175 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: our new pastor? 176 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: Is that the weather goud channel whatever? Seen him look 177 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: like somebody on the plane with me the other day. 178 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: That's what it is. That's what it feels like is. 179 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: But the best thing about being here is that people 180 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: will come up to you in the grocery store and 181 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: they'll just say, I just want to want to let 182 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: you know I'm behind you. 183 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 2: You know what I've had. I've had a few of those, 184 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: and that's part's really cool. I mean, the welcome, the 185 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: respect people show has been pretty phenomenal. Every everything that 186 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: I would have I've heard about, you know that the 187 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: Southern hospitality and the and the friendliness and the kindness, 188 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: all those things have have shown up in most of 189 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: the interactions I've had. 190 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: And you know, and people don't. 191 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: People have been very respectful, very complimentary, and they sort 192 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: of say alone, kind of keep it moving. And I 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: think that's that's pretty cool. They're kind yeah, and polite. Yeah, 194 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: I would say all those things are true. The random 195 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: one the other day, I was I went to a 196 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: coffee shop over by my house and I walked in 197 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: and Taylor the Long in there, and you recognize him 198 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: because he stands out Yeah, And I and I had 199 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: just done their their their podcast a couple of weeks back, 200 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: and I just said, hey, Taylor, what's up man, And 201 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: like nobody else, he took him a second to recognize 202 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: me to you know, he's like, oh, hey, hey, hey, uh, 203 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: but you know, the place was pretty crowded and nobody 204 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: else really setting, you know, so I was like, Oh, 205 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: he's like, you're just kind of moving around town, huh, 206 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: pretty anonymously. I was like, I guess. And so that's 207 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: that's kind of what my experience has been so far. 208 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: I haven't had a whole lot of interaction that's you know, uncomfortable. 209 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: Have you actually been able to do things in town? 210 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: Have you seen any of Nashville outside of Ascension, Saint 211 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: Thomas Sports? 212 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: I have not a lot, but I have some. I've 213 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: been out of camp full of times, a couple of restaurants. 214 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the food here is fantastic. Everywhere I've been 215 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: has been an excellent meal. A little bit of that 216 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: I've I've been. 217 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: I want to. 218 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: Haven't been a couple of Preds games, of I want to. 219 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: I still looking forward to going to the baseball stadium 220 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: watching some baseball, which is kind of one of the 221 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: summer pastime go watch some baseball. But it's a really 222 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: good park, that's what I've heard. I've heard it's a 223 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: really good park. And then I've been. I've been to. 224 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: We've been up to the twelve thirty Club a few 225 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: times because Rand had gone there. 226 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: Ran. 227 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: That's kind of RAN's spot. He was at a bunch 228 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: and so I've been there a few times. I have 229 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: not really like dove down into the Broadway honky tonk 230 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: scene much. 231 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 3: You've got to do a concert at the Ryman. That's 232 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: on the list. You've got to do the list. I've 233 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: heard that. And you've got to go to the Grand 234 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: Ole Opera. Yeah, I mean it is. 235 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: It is so special that it has the history and 236 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: tradition and when you're there, you're like, I am so 237 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: glad I'm here. 238 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get it. When you're there, you feel it. 239 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: That's is it kind of like I feel like the 240 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: Ryman and that and the Grand Opera like Red Rocks, 241 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: and it's like Red Rocks is a place so you 242 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: just you just need to go experience. Doesn't matter who's playing, right, 243 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 2: you just got to go experience it. And it's it's 244 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: it's just that it's an experience. It's one of the 245 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: I feel like those are the same type of place 246 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: as that you got to check them off the list 247 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: exactly to the Station Inn then at the Goulds, which 248 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: is like this old yeah, old, like it's a bluegrass place, okay, 249 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: And it was one of the coolest. I mean it was. 250 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: We just ramly walked in there one night and really 251 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: a good band was playing, and my wife's a big 252 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: bluegrass fan, and we sat there for like two hours. Yes, 253 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: so I kind of sat off in the corner just 254 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: watch these these guys play blue grass. 255 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Was phenomenal. 256 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: It was, and you can do that anyway. 257 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: But you know what, that's my biggest disappointment with myself 258 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: is every time I go hear live music, I think, 259 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: why don't I do this more? 260 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: H It's one of my favorite things about this city. 261 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna I mean, I think I'm gonna 262 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: do quite a bit of it because I love I 263 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: love watching music, So I mean I'm all in on 264 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: the music. 265 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love it. 266 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: We're all in on seat Geek. Seat Geek is now 267 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: the official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. 268 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: That's what I'm supposed to do that it's called sick. 269 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: It was a good one, whether you're bid to not really, 270 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans games or 271 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: any live event in Nashville. Like live music, Seat Geek 272 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: is the place to do it. Seat Geek the new 273 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. 274 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: So Titans fans, let me ask you. 275 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Too about how you're going to play the preseason. How 276 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: do you in your coaching philosophy from an evaluation standpoint, 277 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: see preseason games. 278 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: Preseason is important. I think I've learned some lessons over 279 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: the years. We you know, we kind of adopted that 280 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: La Rams mentality when when we got to Cincinnati where 281 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: we didn't play our starters at all, we had some 282 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: injuries with with Burrow. 283 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: Last year. 284 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: We were going to play our starters more because we've 285 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: we had been a kind of slow starting team out 286 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: of the gate, and that was one of the things 287 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: we felt like might help us as playing in the 288 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: preseason more. And obviously we weren't going to put our 289 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: guys out there in Cincinnati without Joe with them. It 290 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: just didn't make sense. So I believe in those guys 291 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: playing time in the preseason. I think it helps. It 292 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: helps you get ready for the opener. So the opener 293 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: is not the first time you've been tackled or the 294 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: first time you hit a game speed, and even the 295 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: preseason game speeds that's the same as the regular season. 296 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: It's still playing live football, and I think starters playing 297 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: a little bit in those games I think is going 298 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: to go a long way. The joint practices will be 299 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: important where we get a ton of work against a 300 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: team in a more controlled environment, but you'll see our 301 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: starters play in the preseason. 302 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: With that mindset, how quickly do you want to establish 303 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: kind of who those fifty three are going to be? 304 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: You know, every year your roster, you probably know who 305 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: let's call it forty something. You know, you got a 306 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: pretty good idea, but then there's a handful of battles 307 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: at some spots, some of the depth spots, some of 308 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: the special team spots that are are truly up for 309 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: grabs that somebody could take. And so you've got a 310 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: pretty good idea of what you're going to look like 311 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: around most of your starting positions. But then it's just 312 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: a matter of what is the those those last couple 313 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: of pieces of the roster that people are fighting for. 314 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: But you certainly want to have a you know, when 315 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: you're having competition up front, for example, offensive line, you'd 316 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: like to get that solidified sooner than later, because you 317 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: want those guys to bank reps and play together. So 318 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: that's when you talk about that. Certainly, you'd love to 319 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: have your five starters pretty solidified sooner than later. But 320 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: I think a lot of our battles are going to 321 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: go probably well to the wire and training camp. I mean, 322 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of opportunity for guys 323 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: to compete and have a chance start to earn themselves 324 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: a job. 325 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned the five starters on the offensive line. Do 326 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: you feel the same way about the twenty two starters 327 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: overall getting them established as quickly as possible. 328 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you hope. 329 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: So there's also the other part of it is that 330 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: you hope that you know there's there's guys that are 331 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: still even though their starters, are still preparing and fighting 332 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: like they have a job that's up for crabs because 333 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: that competition makes your team better. And so you hope 334 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: that there's enough competition across the board for spots that 335 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm really pis those guys to not be complacent either, 336 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: to know that you know, the minute you show up 337 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: here and you think you got it all, you know, usually. 338 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: You get beat out by somebody. 339 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: But the competition is good, and so I hope that 340 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: you want to play guys together, but you also want 341 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: the same mentality of guys that are trying to earn 342 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: them selves spots, even if their spot is solidified, you know, 343 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: by contractual status or how much they've played. But I 344 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: hope that we get a bunch of really good competition. 345 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: At fifty three guys on the active roster. When you 346 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: go to Chicago, you'll certainly have the ability to call 347 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: up people from the practice squad. But I wonder this 348 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: being a first time head coach, do you already have 349 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: in your mind how the game day forty eight will 350 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: fit together, or do you have to wait and see 351 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: how the roster is set before you can make your 352 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: mind up about that. 353 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: I have an outline of what I think it'll look like, 354 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: and then there's going to be those weekly decisions that 355 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: come up. A lot of it's going to be in 356 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: in the special team's realm. Where who's going to contribute there, 357 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: and what's their value on the roster as the third 358 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: running back or the fourth and fifth receivers or you know, 359 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: where where are those guys playing roles? And that to 360 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: me is usually where that gymnastics comes into play before 361 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: you get to the injury part, which hopefully there's not 362 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: too many of those. Will knock Hoover playing wherever you 363 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: can knock, Yeah, you should have been around. 364 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 4: Here the last three years, well knock anything. 365 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: And so that hopefully is you know, when you get 366 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: to that point where you're you're juggling injuries and rosters, 367 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: that that part will kind of solve itself. But the 368 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: special teams part is really where the unknowns are at 369 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: this point and then where those guys are going to 370 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: fit in what roles? 371 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 3: Uh? 372 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: And then do you take You got to take some 373 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: guys that maybe are really good Special Tams players but 374 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: maybe not going to help you on either in any position, 375 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: but their their role as a four phase best teams 376 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: player is going to be critical, and so you may 377 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: have to take that guy over a guy you think 378 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: is you know, on game day, you might have to 379 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: sit one guy down that's not going to help you 380 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: as much because they're only going to play seven to 381 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: ten snaps when those other guy's going to play you know, 382 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: twenty special team snaps for you too. So it kind 383 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: of goes there's a lot of juggling when it gets 384 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: to that. 385 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned the special teams component, and there have 386 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: been some changes to what special teams is going to 387 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 4: look like in twenty twenty four in a variety of 388 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 4: different ways. How does that impact the calculus of what 389 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: you are trying to put together and maybe who you 390 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 4: choose to put where. 391 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, the kickoff obviously is going 392 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: to be a huge change. I don't know what that's 393 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: going to look like yet, you know, I think we 394 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: have to get pads on and play and experiment. I 395 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: think the preseason will be fun to watch and see 396 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: what people do. They won't show you everything, but I 397 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: do think as we get more comfortable with what that 398 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: kickoff rule looks like, you can start making maybe some 399 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: personnel changes. I know Cole has messed with some lineups, 400 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 2: but you know, the types of guys you might use 401 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: in that spot might be different now than they used 402 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: to so hard to know for sure, but I think 403 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: we're kind of open to the possibility that may change 404 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: how you can figure some of your roster because those 405 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: spots are different now than maybe they used to be 406 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: on the kickoff and kickoff return, so that part will 407 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: be exciting. I'm not a you know, I'm an offensive 408 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: guy in the quarterback guy, so I spent most of 409 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: my time there and the special teams never really intrigued 410 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: me much. But the new kickoff, to me, is intriguing. 411 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: That PARTI really fun to kind of see what that's 412 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 2: going to look like. 413 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: Well, who are your returners? Do you go with a small, 414 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: quick guy or a bigger guy who can break a tackle, 415 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: and go who needs to be on the kick cover team? 416 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: Who needs to be on the return team because you 417 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: actually have a real chance to block somebody now, which 418 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: as before it was very hard to get a real 419 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: block on somebody. And then the discussion of who the 420 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: kicker needs to be based on the fact that, as 421 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: they played this out in the UFL and overall, the 422 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: actual kicker had to make a lot of tackles, a 423 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: lot more than than normal. And some teams are even 424 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: talking about using a safety who has had kickoff experience, 425 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: maybe in high school, as the kicker. 426 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure we have one 427 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: of those. I'm not sure we have a guy that 428 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 2: can kick and cover, I know, but there is some 429 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: guys out there that head I think their especially coordinator 430 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: might have came out and and even said they've practiced 431 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: with him in that role because you gain an advantage. 432 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: You know, you gain an extra tuckler, and the kicking 433 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: is a little bit less about the distance now and 434 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: so you don't have to have one's got a big leg. 435 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: You can just as long as they can get the 436 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: ball in the air and put in the landing zone. 437 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: You've now gained an extra cover player. So I would 438 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: venture to guess there's a handful of teams that will 439 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: do that. And maybe that's you know, now all the 440 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: scouts are on the road this fall looking at safety kickers, 441 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: you know, you know guys, that's guys got some flex, 442 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: some roster value the full Yeah, but I don't think 443 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: it's that far fetched. I think if you if you 444 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: found one that could kick it well enough, it's certainly 445 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: an advantage. And I think the teams are gonna that 446 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: have one of a guy that could do that, well, 447 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: that'll work out, you know, to a small advantage for them. Brian, 448 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: how much of that do you think you'll learn about 449 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: in the preseason? Will anybody show much? 450 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 3: No? Okay, no, I don't think they'll just kick it. No. 451 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: I think they're going to show I think people want 452 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: to see I think the the general concessus that I've 453 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: gathered is that most teams want to see it be 454 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: played out and and in in its most basic form 455 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: in the preseason. There's not going to be a bunch 456 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: of scheme, but I think just to see what it 457 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: looks like live, because you're not practicing that live at 458 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: any point during practice. I think that it'll be fun 459 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: for the joint practices to see that against the opponent. 460 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know what that's gonna I think I 461 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 2: think you'll see a lot of returns. I don't think 462 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: you'll see the the schematics that some of the you know, 463 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: whatever the wrinkles people are going to have. I think 464 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: you'll see a lot of just kick and cover so 465 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: people can just watch it play out and see what 466 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: it's going to look like. 467 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: The pundits who love the geekery like I. 468 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Do, the geeky, I mean, I mean it's a I 469 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: mean it truly is, because I think in listening to them, 470 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: they may be right that early in the season we're 471 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of returns, and as people 472 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: start to see the returns become the first offensive play 473 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: of the game, for real that by mid season people 474 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: just be kicking in the end zone and giving you 475 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: the ball. 476 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: At the thirty. I think there's going to be. 477 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: A risk reward, and I think there's gonna be teams 478 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: that maybe become really good at it, and you become 479 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: concerned about that and say, well, we're better off. The 480 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: chance of them getting to the forty five or the 481 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 2: fifty on the kickoff is pretty good because there they 482 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: got a dynamic returner, or they have a their scheme 483 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: is really good. Whatever that may be, you're gonna see 484 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: a lot more. I would venture to guess teams that 485 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: maybe not feel as confident in what what they have 486 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: versus what the other team has. And you may just 487 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: say this, they're going to conceive the ball at thirty 488 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: and just kicking an end zone. That wouldn't surprise me 489 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: at all. Can I ask one more kicking question? 490 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: Amy? Oh? Please? 491 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: Okaya kicking here? 492 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: So Folk is back and he's almost forty the young 493 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: man from NC State and Harvissen is here and he 494 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: appears to have quite a leg. Is that going to 495 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: be something we need to watch when preseason starts in 496 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: a few weeks. 497 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 498 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: I don't think Nick's at any any real risk of 499 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: losing his job. I think that it's good to have 500 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 2: two kickers in camp, and I think obviously Nick has 501 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: kicked for a long time, and so you are in 502 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: for us as organizationally, you always want to have the 503 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: succession planning in place for guys that that have played 504 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: as long as as Nick has and and Morgan Cox 505 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: two is they you know, these guys have They're very 506 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: established and they've been great players for a long time 507 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: at their jobs, and you always want to have a 508 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: in the back of your mind, Okay, well, what what 509 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: happens next year of Nick DESI this is it for him? 510 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: Or if you you know what I mean. That's you 511 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: always have to plan for that. And so having and kickers, 512 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: I've generally felt like young kickers need, you know, the 513 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: exception of a handful, they need time, they need to 514 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: learn how to kick. In the NFL, a lot of guys, 515 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: you know, you see these guys kicking camps for two 516 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 2: three years and they finally getting the opportunity. So you're 517 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: sort of always having that almost training ground for the 518 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: next guy. So I think that's going to be a 519 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: part of having two kickers in camp too. 520 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: Coach Brian Callahan, enjoy the rest of your offseason. Thank 521 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: you for both parts of this. We have enjoyed having 522 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: you with us so much. Always a pleasure for Amy 523 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Wells and hit Coach Brian Callahan, Mike Keith, thanks you 524 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: for listening and watching the O t P. 525 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Big Show where the Leason's going. Ever 526 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: gotten knows it's a