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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stump Mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From house top works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Molly. Molly I have

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Speaker 1: belonged here. It's true, we book we both do. Here's

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Speaker 1: as much long as mine. Yeah, mine's getting a little

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Speaker 1: control at this point. And uh, I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: but when my long hair really gets to be a

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Speaker 1: a ponytail. You know, I did too, And uh then

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Speaker 1: I then I learned what ponytails meant in the course

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Speaker 1: of doing research for this podcast courtesy of a book

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Speaker 1: called Girlhood in America in Encyclopedia, and I talked about

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Speaker 1: how the ponytail came into style in the late forties

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Speaker 1: early fifties. It was very popular with teens and uh,

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Speaker 1: the their Miriam Foreman ber Now writes the ponytail's name

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Speaker 1: herrikened back to horses animals considered to be erotic fixations

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Speaker 1: among young girls. In this style, the hair is pulled

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Speaker 1: back to reveal a maturing face. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: the hair is playfully cult like in the back, wiggling

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Speaker 1: and bouncing as a girl walked, revealing yet sprightly, innocent,

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Speaker 1: yet erotic. This look reflected the cultural position of the

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Speaker 1: teenage girl in the post war United States. And I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, every time I put my hair up

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Speaker 1: at myself mirror, say christ, and my god, you look

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Speaker 1: so innocent and yet so erotic. And then I just

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Speaker 1: trot away cult like galloping down the road. And then

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Speaker 1: do sexual disconnotations of what you look like as a

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Speaker 1: bouncing horse fill your mind? Yeah, I mean people stopping

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Speaker 1: watch jogging is so so what rotic? Oh Molly, I

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Speaker 1: don't jog. I gallop galloph and try bridled and the

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Speaker 1: streets of Atlanta. Oh well, our topic today is horses,

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Speaker 1: and that just kind of throws some of them. I

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Speaker 1: like that kind of even horses. Yeah, we haven't even

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Speaker 1: is already getting salty up in here because you throw

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Speaker 1: going to bring all these conceptions as to why girls

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Speaker 1: stuff about being innocent in fact, but also being free

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Speaker 1: to come into play in our investigation of why girls

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Speaker 1: a rite of passage that girls love horses. Girls love horses,

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Speaker 1: And when I think about my own girlhood experience with horses,

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Speaker 1: There's some kind of Freudian connection to girls liking horses.

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Speaker 1: Will it change my life? Let me know, mom. Stuff

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