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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Wednesday, The Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 1: my bes friend Mike Harmon, Well Dressed Hobo also known

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Speaker 1: as Happy David Peterson Complete game Night. How about that

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? I mean that puts you into the

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Speaker 1: metal stand as a contender for the cy Young just

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Speaker 1: like Yeah, Buddy Sanga, Sure, Robbie Ray, Okay, Sale Sale

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Speaker 1: Peterson Yeah, you know me. I'm just a believer of it.

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Speaker 1: If you can actually go seven plus innings in a game.

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Speaker 1: An extra doffing of the cap. Also Game three of

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and Met's best record in baseball Night.

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Speaker 1: So there's that going on. Oh, the Dodgers took the

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Speaker 1: series from the Padres.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of Wait a second, I think another

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Speaker 3: coach just rejected the NIX.

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Speaker 1: No, do you have proof of that? Do you have

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Speaker 1: proof of that? We need every coach. All the coaches

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Speaker 1: are done except for Doc. But what did I do

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Speaker 1: about Billy Donovan? Right because he was the number three

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Speaker 1: longest tenured coach. And then what do we get from

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Speaker 1: k C hoops? Yeah, but now you can throw anybody

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Speaker 1: out there. People would believe it. You can anybody else

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Speaker 1: a liar. You could throw anybody out there. They rejected

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Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for Luke Walton to tell you guys

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Speaker 3: to beat it.

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Speaker 1: It's eventually going to get down to Doc or nobody.

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Speaker 1: It's Doc. I mean, now I'm going to that point

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Speaker 1: where it's the only only Doc is the only going.

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Speaker 3: You asked everybody else, everybody else said no, you know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting ahead of the good you can tell. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at this point, really, it would be better for the

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Speaker 1: Knicks if they just blanketly send out a note to

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Speaker 1: every NBA team saying we'd like to talk to your

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Speaker 1: head coach and see what you get back. That would

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Speaker 1: be more, That would least be less labor intensive than

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Speaker 1: getting told no individually by all of these coaches every

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Speaker 1: five bleep in minutes. Seems like you gotta just set

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Speaker 1: down a mass email BCC and everybody and see who

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Speaker 1: were responded in the affirmative. Okay, you know what, we'll

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Speaker 1: get to. We'll get to say I'm still stand no,

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Speaker 1: we gotta do this now, uh Doc, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: the NBA five. I mean, really it is. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: now convinced it's gonna get down to that the Knicks

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Speaker 1: are gonna go get done. But if that means because

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Speaker 1: I mean the Bucks have been selling the idea that

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Speaker 1: they need Doc to keep Yannis happy. If Doc leaves

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Speaker 1: for the Knicks comes with Doc, boy, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know what, give me. Let me think about that

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Speaker 1: You've got to love about it. But I get Doc

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Speaker 1: because I just watch what Doc has done with Jannis,

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Speaker 1: and that was nothing. Close your eyes, what do you see? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: So if Yannis comes with Doc, how do I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna work? I just watched Doc for two years,

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Speaker 1: completely under it. H Jalen Bruns with him. It doesn't matter, man,

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Speaker 1: TIBs like that's where the Knicks are eventually gonna get

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Speaker 1: negotiate a higher pay rate. Okay, so till me thirty million,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not coming back for a pennies. You have

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Speaker 1: to take his out in the paperback. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: for you as you read that one? I need to

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Speaker 1: have a personal intervention here for a second. Again, we'll

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Speaker 1: get to the NBA FI. They're at halftime right now,

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Speaker 1: four point lead for the Pacers. Yeah, but James Dolan

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Speaker 1: is lee putting up some tasty licks right now. The

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Speaker 1: Knicks have now been told no from teams who they

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Speaker 1: So if you get a coach saying yes, then what

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Speaker 1: themselves by continuing to ask and say no, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but just because you're single, you're not going to get

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Speaker 1: oh for six? Now you are oh for six? Right,

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Speaker 1: So you are zero for six. It's so embarrassing, and

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Speaker 1: I want the Knicks to just stop. No one is leaving.

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Speaker 1: now who's gonna say yes? Because the Knicks have now

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Speaker 1: You want to know that if you're gonna say hey,

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Speaker 1: But now I don't feel special. I don't feel special

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Speaker 1: if I'm Jason Kidd, I don't feel specially I'm Chris Finch.

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Speaker 1: Right now it's like, oh, hey, Billy, you want to

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Like it's so it's embarrassing on on on

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Speaker 1: Because then it's a we can bring guys in, talk

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Speaker 1: Because that's why you got rid of Doc top tibotus.

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Speaker 1: See I'm bringing Doc Rivers in his thibodeau. Is that

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Speaker 1: he didn't utilize the roster you thought you'd assembled that

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Speaker 1: was a more complete roster. No, he went five and

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Speaker 1: sometimes not at all. Right, So all of that to say,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's untenable for a guy to go

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Speaker 1: You can't hold him a hostage. Say no, you're not

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Speaker 1: So for the Knicks, you you're in that horrible spot.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about it when the odds first came out.

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Speaker 1: Is every day the NIXT call the next call, no,

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Speaker 1: Okay that that that will cross the rubicon. That's worse

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a lot of people. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mick Cronin, Moore, Doc Rivers would be at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau in terms of dealing. You're hiring the same

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Speaker 1: guy except a guy that coached college. Except you know

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Speaker 1: it doesn't that is an it. Wow, I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: didn't even make that leap. That's that's fun. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have Aaron Boone, I think, than get Doc rivers in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know there's anybody you could tell me that

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have. But here's here's what you now have

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Speaker 1: to do. You really have to talk about the brilliance

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Speaker 1: of the other Doc Dave Robertson and what he did

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Speaker 1: last night setting up today's game and everything. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: the only way you're gonna get back on his good

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Speaker 1: side and have him put that phone away. Otherwise he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be sitting there with a finger over that hovering

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Speaker 1: over that button. Yeah. No, it's awful, it's awful. But

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Speaker 1: a top five rivalry in all of sports. Had this

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Speaker 1: round end earlier today and thanks to one big swing,

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Speaker 1: this guy gets to be the play of the day.

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Speaker 2: On a two to one. Her name is sends one

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Speaker 2: in the ear to deep center field.

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Speaker 1: Merril's going back here it is gone. Tay Oscar roars again.

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Speaker 1: Joe Davis, Dodgers TV on the call. Ti Oscar Hernandez,

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Speaker 1: the big jack that gives the Dodgers the win over

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Speaker 1: the Padres and just really quick for a guy who

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Speaker 1: needs that hit. He needed that hit well. But that's

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Speaker 1: the thing Joe Davis call is misleading to Oscar hitting

457
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Speaker 1: it a whole lot. No, but he's excited again again.

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Speaker 1: He's only hitting a day, has it? Howard it forever?

459
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Speaker 1: It's like, no, I tell you he didn't. Look you look.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Andy pa Has the other night and

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Speaker 1: how I'm really coming around to him being on the

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Speaker 1: All Star team. And even if he doesn't make it

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Speaker 1: this year, it looks like he'll be one of those

464
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Speaker 1: Midsummer Classic staples as a center fielder for a while.

465
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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you the Dodger lineup, they needed that. Listen,

466
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Speaker 1: in the fight to be the second best team in baseball,

467
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers needed this win today over the Padres last

468
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Speaker 1: sixteen game, I needed it. And I bet now the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers may, hey, they may have the mantle of the

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Speaker 1: second best team in baseball. That they may have it right,

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Speaker 1: you know what happening? They might They might. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: keep keep you know, he's gonna do it anyway. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it any Yeah, Yeah, he's Yeah, I'm going

474
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Speaker 1: to answer my phone tomorrow and just say unknown call,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hello, Hi, this is stuck. Oh come on,

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Speaker 1: this is Jason.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Do you know anybody at MSG I'm trying to get through? Uh,

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Speaker 1: Prike caller, Pride caller, who gave you this number? Tell

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Speaker 1: him to call into the hotline. Then we'll say, let's

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Speaker 1: go to the phones eight seven seven, and there it is.

482
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Speaker 1: It's you called me. Uh time out to find out

483
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Speaker 1: what's trending in the wide world of sports. So someone

484
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Speaker 1: have been waiting for a big update on for the

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Speaker 1: last half hours. Okay, yeah, because she and I have

486
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Speaker 1: a lot in common when a team, when one of

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Speaker 1: our teams does something good, retail right, tail in by something.

488
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Speaker 1: Moncey Belanos really likes the overrate that saying that has

489
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Speaker 1: been going on with Tyrese Halibert and the Pacers for

490
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Speaker 1: the last month or so since Hey, thirteen people said

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Speaker 1: I'm overrated. I'll show you, and then it was the

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Speaker 1: majority in a poll of ninety guys. He hit a

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Speaker 1: three in the first half to give the paces, Like,

494
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Speaker 1: just hit a three in the first half to give

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Speaker 1: the paces well, and then he smack talk to defender. No,

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Speaker 1: that's good. He hits a first half three, and Montsy says,

497
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Speaker 1: I went to Puma, I got the overrated, overrate that

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Speaker 1: T shirt and put it in my cart and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna buy it. So now I gotta know you've had

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Speaker 1: a half hour. Did you go buy that T shirt

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Speaker 1: just because Tyree's Holliburton hit a three?

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Speaker 5: I have not, but I'm going to see here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to buy it already and it's sold out,

504
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Speaker 1: so I had like forgotten about it.

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Speaker 5: So then he hit the three like you just said,

506
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Speaker 5: and I went back and it was back and I'd

507
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Speaker 5: mentioned this too much?

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Speaker 1: Was there until he hit the three? How did some

509
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Speaker 1: other company not just co op that? They said, sure

510
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Speaker 1: they did, don't worry. I looked into that.

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Speaker 5: I also when it was sold out, I looked into it.

512
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Speaker 5: But I wanted the Puma one. You know what I'm saying.

513
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Speaker 5: But I had to text Carrie Rhodes, my co host

514
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Speaker 5: from the Weekend, because I had told him that I

515
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Speaker 5: wanted to get the shirt, and he's like, if you

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Speaker 5: get it, get me one. So I sent him the

517
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Speaker 5: link and once he responds, I'm either purchasing one or

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Speaker 5: purchasing two.

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Speaker 1: It's happening overrate That also all right, But for those

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Speaker 1: that don't understand it outside of our little sports world,

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Speaker 1: it really is a statement walking up and down the street.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, what hell are you talking? Overrate?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 1: I can't I can't tell you. How are you trying

525
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Speaker 1: to rate? The Mets or the Jets win it big

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Speaker 1: in I'm like, I'm getting a T shirt, yes, shorts,

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm only getting one. I'm only getting one. And

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Speaker 1: by the time the T shirt gets here, the Pacers

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Speaker 1: lose the final. I can't wear this anymore.

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Speaker 5: I'm solute to wear But you're right, that's exactly that

533
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Speaker 5: is exactly what's going to happen. Actually, after three quarters

534
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Speaker 5: of play in Game three of the Finals, the thunder

535
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Speaker 5: I have been eighty nine to eighty four lead over

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Speaker 5: the Pacers. It's been back and forth since, like the

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Speaker 5: second quarter because okayse had an early lead. Cheded Holmgren

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Speaker 5: came out to a hot start twelve quick points in

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Speaker 5: the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: He's got eighteen. Jalen Williams has twenty points for Okay.

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Speaker 5: See shake Gil just Alexander eight of seventeen, and he's

542
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Speaker 5: got twenty one points for Indiana. Tyres haller Brand nineteen points,

543
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Speaker 5: eight assists, five rebounds, Pascal Siakom's got seventeen points off

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Speaker 5: the bench, Benedict Mathern has seventeen points, So eighty nine

545
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Speaker 5: to eighty four after three quarters. We'll see how this

546
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Speaker 5: one ends. In baseball, just so you know, I know

547
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Speaker 5: they Alsotta had struggled, but still is the leading is leading.

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Speaker 1: In RBI's RBI whatever for the Dodgers. Sure, still sure,

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Speaker 1: he's still the leader.

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Speaker 5: So even though you like that, even I don't know,

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Speaker 5: even though he sucked for so for like a little bit,

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Speaker 5: he's still the leader in in that, in that so

553
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Speaker 5: he needed that, you're right, he absolutely needed and so.

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Speaker 1: Did Michael Conforto.

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Speaker 5: He was the one who hit the Tye solo home runty.

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Speaker 1: Yes speak speaking of RBI's, Yeah, leads the majors in

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Speaker 1: rb an RBI. Okay, gotcha, Okay, yeah, So I.

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Speaker 5: Mean go Pete Alonso, who didn't hit a home run

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Speaker 5: today along with Brandon Nimmo also hit a home run. Yes,

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Speaker 5: and Mets, like you mentioned your Mets. They shout out

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Speaker 5: the Nationals five zero.

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Speaker 1: The Dodger home run.

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Speaker 4: I forgot about.

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Speaker 1: I forgot he was a met for like a hot second.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers cheat the fine to two in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: I'll contribute for that, thank you.

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Speaker 5: And so the Yankees are up on the Royal sixty three,

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Speaker 5: bottom of the ninth. They even in Kansas City, Aaron

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Speaker 5: Judge with this twenty fifth homer. The Astros are up

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Speaker 5: on the White Sox ten to two, bottom of the eighth,

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Speaker 5: Rockies with the sixty three lead over the Giants. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they were down, not anymore. It's the top of the

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Speaker 5: seventh in Colorado. No other teams have denied the nixt

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Speaker 5: requests in the.

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Speaker 1: Last half hour. Sure about that. Yes, I'll go and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll check again, But nobody else yet. You just got

577
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Speaker 1: to keep hitting refreshed exactly. Yeah. I typed the search

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Speaker 1: in the Twitter, and I got to type the Nicks

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Speaker 1: and denyed Nick and I keep waiting to see what

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Speaker 1: comes up. And we see what comes up. Came in

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Speaker 1: tumbo no no, no oh, yeah, yeah, that's what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks they found a way. Hey, we're a destination. No,

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Speaker 1: now you're laughing stock.

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Speaker 4: If you get the email sides from them.

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Speaker 1: Do not answer.

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Speaker 4: My email was crazy.

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Speaker 1: If you can get it from the Knicks and they

588
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Speaker 1: want to talk to your head coach, do not answer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: hang up everyone. I'm glad we get to play that

590
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Speaker 1: all right, Thank you, Monsie. Good luck with your retail therapy.

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00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: Thank you, very good, very good. Just sitting there with

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Speaker 1: her finger hovering over the button. You buy? Now? Do

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Speaker 1: I buy it? Do I the shirt for him? Doc Rivers?

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Speaker 1: Do I buy?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: He'll call doc Rivers first. Yeah, because if this game

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Speaker 1: doesn't finish well for the for the patient, Haliburton MANSI

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Speaker 1: will let again. No, no, no, not doing it, guys.

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Speaker 1: A loser couldn't win this game. No, guys, was not

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Speaker 1: going to do it. But maybe she wants some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff, you dude, My well, I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: how much my wife hates you. Oh, I know for

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Speaker 1: showing me the player's trunk. Hates you. She hated me before,

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Speaker 1: that hates you now she only pretend hated you. Now

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Speaker 1: she really hates you. It's like, did he really have

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Speaker 1: to show you all of that? I feel like it's

607
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Speaker 1: a commercial. Where can I get all those songs in

608
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Speaker 1: one place for one low price? Just did he really

609
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Speaker 1: show you a place where you can buy real Syracuse

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Speaker 1: team issued gear for football? Yes, yes he did. He

611
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Speaker 1: showed me exactly where I could do that. And then

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Speaker 1: you said, but but there's also Michigan stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said, well, I gotta say I gotta say, well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta save that for birthday, Christmas stuff like that.

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00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I can save that. Yeah, no, but this is and

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Speaker 1: now you spent what but honey, it's it's Michigan. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I just have to make sure that the players

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Speaker 1: who wind up selling stuff and having stuff out there

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Speaker 1: are my height, because that's the problem. Like I can't

620
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Speaker 1: buy John Balla Jack stuff because he's you know, seven

621
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Speaker 1: feet tall. I can't buy his pants because I mean,

622
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Speaker 1: it would be like to be like double pants. I

623
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Speaker 1: can't wear them. I gotta get Oh, I mean you

624
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Speaker 1: can walk it on still try pain who transferred it

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00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: went to Penn State. He's five eleven. Okay, Okay, now

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Speaker 1: we're working on it. Okay, that's what I can get. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go have to see where the different logos and

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Speaker 1: it's to be something if you had to have them hemmed, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would become problem. I get that. She hates you,

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Speaker 1: absolutely hate you. No, it's okay, I wear it. She's

631
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Speaker 1: not alone. I mean, there's a list right now in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, eleven and a half left to go. Look,

633
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Speaker 1: great game so far between the Thunder and the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: Eighty nine eighty seven. And I'll tell you what doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. One thing we told you was gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: One thing that doesn't make any sense. What did I

637
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Speaker 1: tell you last night? Hey, if the Pacers can hit

638
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Speaker 1: threes at a forty to forty five percent rate three

639
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: more times in the series, they'll win this series. All

640
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: the stuff it breaks down to, that's because that's what

641
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Speaker 1: the Pacers do. It's how they cut into leads, it's

642
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: how they they do what they can. It's how they

643
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Speaker 1: open up their offense because everybody on the floor can

644
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Speaker 1: hit threes. Right, it's a two point game. And tonight

645
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Speaker 1: the Pacers are six out of twenty two for three

646
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Speaker 1: point range, six out of twenty two, and still somehow

647
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: it's a two point game. Well, you've done a really

648
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: good job of taking care of Thunder turnover, the Thunder

649
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: have four players in double figures, doesn't matter, doesn't matter. Somehow,

650
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a two point game and they can't

651
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Speaker 1: hit a three to save their lives like that, like

652
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: that that show. But I look at this and I go, okay, this,

653
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. Well, late

654
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: in the third they had seventeen points off turnovers, a

655
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: couple of easy walk in layups. Uh chet, Holmgren got

656
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Speaker 1: out to that huge start. That was all fun, Yeah, Cheolk,

657
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: he was a chelmer. I mean, look, my two guys, Hey,

658
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Speaker 1: I want to I want to bet the first quarter

659
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Speaker 1: that Homegren scores double digits and SGA doesn't score. That's

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Speaker 1: what I want. And then Matherin goes nuts in the

661
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: second quarter. And you and I were joking before the show, right, Look,

662
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: that's fourteen. That's the other part of it is late

663
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: in the last like month, Bettett Mathren has proved, Hey,

664
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: he's the best sixth man in the NBA. And he's

665
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: not even the first guy off the bench. He's got

666
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Speaker 1: twenty two right now in eighteen minutes. This is the

667
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth time in the playoffs. You can go,

668
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: how does the guy have this many points in this

669
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: amount of time and shoot this well, Mathern is keeping

670
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: them in the game like he's the guy like Halliburton's

671
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: having a good game. Is he having an incredible great game?

672
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Nobody's having a good game, right, he's yeah, and Siakam's

673
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: having a good all around game. But Mathron with twenty

674
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Speaker 1: two and eighteen, he's eight out of ten from the floor. Man,

675
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: it's like all of a sudden, he's he's Vinnie Johnson

676
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: on steroids. You know what the thing about it, I

677
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: don't get anything for the Vinnie Johnson reference. I mean,

678
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: come on, man, wave, I gotta explain to gen X

679
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: who Vinnie Johnson is. Oh, you're gonna have to do

680
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: that anyway. The microwave red microwave heats up in an instant.

681
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: That's Benediic Mathrin. He's the new Vinnie Johnson microwave chicken

682
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Speaker 1: because I just had that right before dinner. Oh but

683
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: a guy that can that can fill it up. An

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Speaker 1: unheralded hero of those teams made folk hero. Yeah, but

685
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Speaker 1: on the grander scand he never gets included at any

686
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Speaker 1: best of No. But now I'm just thinking about the

687
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: microwave chicken I had before the show. That was reatten,

688
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: thinking about thinking about eating chicken for dinner. Yeah, but

689
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Matherin's that one of those, clearly. Mike Harmon feels like

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Speaker 1: Chicken Tonight. Like Chicken Tonight. You want to what that

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Speaker 1: commercial Chicken Tonight, DJ, because that's a commercial. I think

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Speaker 1: people know when I do Berman. It's an old reference

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Speaker 1: from something in pop culture that I don't quite know about.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's not the AI kind of like, uh,

695
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: what was it? Uh? The guy from Captain America who

696
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: they've saved him and he's in the computer? Is it

697
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers? No, not Rivers. I'm in the computer like

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Speaker 1: a coach. Can't kill me. I'm still here. Exit up

699
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Speaker 1: about a Fresco exit swollen down. The Jason Smith Show

700
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Speaker 1: with My Best Friend Man had a point again, a

701
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: two point lead for the Thunder right now, still a

702
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: long way to go in the fourth quarter, but coming

703
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Speaker 1: up next, a bold statement by an NFL team today,

704
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Speaker 1: But leave it what I actually see it. That's next

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Speaker 1: Jason and Mike Fox.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My Best Friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: Seven minutes to go in the fourth quarter, Thunder and

717
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Speaker 1: the Pacers, Game three of the NBA Finals. Hey, it's close,

718
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: it's fun. Don't ask for too much. It's all in

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00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: the middle of the fourth quorder. It's close's late, it's

720
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: been chippy. Yep, that's all right. Physical, I mean both

721
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: ends of the court. We got guys yelling to the ground.

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Speaker 1: That's everything we want.

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Speaker 3: Yep, one hundred percent. Seven minutes. Two more guys could

724
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 3: reject the Knicks in that time.

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00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Come on, man, seven minutes, like five guys could reject

726
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: the Knicks. Why do you sell it so short? Two

727
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: guys reject the Knicks? Come on, it's a kid giving

728
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: out over under a two and a two guys too, guys.

729
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: Since I just said come on, man, we've had three

730
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: people say no. John Calipari said no, you just keep

731
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Speaker 1: hearing bing. Jim Layernega said no, tom Izzo said no.

732
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: Beheim said, I'm not coming back to this. You know

733
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: who won't say no, no, no, no, no, no, Okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead say it. Doc Rivers all right.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more NBA coming up in a few minutes,

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Speaker 1: but something that now I really can't wait for because

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Speaker 1: today Arthur Smith, the Steelers offensive quarter met the media.

739
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: Talked about what it's going to be like having Aaron

740
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Speaker 1: Rodgers in now that he is the Steelers quarterback. And

741
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: we've told you for a while, Look what kind of

742
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: fit is this going to be? The Steelers hate throwing

743
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: the foot ball. Mike Tomlin wants to run the football,

744
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: whether or not the Steelers are good at it. They're

745
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: bad at running the football. They don't they're a volume

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Speaker 1: running team. They have the lowest yards per carry average

747
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL last year. And Agie Harris was like

748
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: three because he's just a rive, He's just a guy.

749
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: Jar is a little bit better. But all they do

750
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Speaker 1: is run the football to just keep time off the clock.

751
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 1: That's all they do. They don't run the ball particularly well.

752
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: You can't win games ultimately and win big in the NFL.

753
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: This is how you're playing. But now you're bringing Aaron Rodgers, right.

754
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith met the meetia to say, they said, hey,

755
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Speaker 1: how are you going to work Aaron Rodgers into the

756
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: offense assistant? He says, well, when you sign Aaron Rodgers

757
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Speaker 1: and you trade for DK Metcalf, you're not bringing these

758
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: guys in to run the wishbune, which is it's a

759
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: great Smith's done something. She got there now just thinking

760
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: back to like Oklahoma in the eighties with like Jamel

761
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: Holloway running the option and how great that was. Let's go,

762
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: oh mag Mel Hollowy was so good. Uh now, okay,

763
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: that's a great thing to say, but you're not gonna

764
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Speaker 1: do it because Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is not gonna

765
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Speaker 1: be happy handing the football off twenty five times a game,

766
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Speaker 1: maybe more. But guess what, that's what he's going to

767
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: do suddenly. Mike Tomin's not suddenly gonna say, oh, we

768
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Speaker 1: have Aaron Rodgers, let's throw it fifty times. Not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Rogers is going from a team that at least threw

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Speaker 1: the football more than anybody out The Jets had the

771
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Speaker 1: fewest rushing attempts of anybody in the NFL, mainly because

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Speaker 1: they stunk and were playing from behind most of the time.

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Speaker 1: But they didn't run the football. Rogers got to throw

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Speaker 1: it a ton. That's not happening in Pittsburgh. Man. This

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00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: is why this whole Rogers Steelers marriage doesn't make sense.

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00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: He needs to throw the football. He likes to do it.

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00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin likes his quarterbacks to be necessary evils. We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna suddenly. There's not gonna be all these games

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00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: where there's forty five fifty passes being thrown. They're simply

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00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Rogers needs the reps he needs

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00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna happen. And this is a marriage

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Speaker 1: Maide in Hell. Right, you've heard of a marriage made

783
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: in heaven. This is a marriage Maide in Hell. This

784
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: is Mephistopheles. Do you take piezzlebub I do I do?

785
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: Go play football? This is not going to work. Right,

786
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Speaker 1: For all you talk about Rogers great, put them on

787
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: a good team. Yeah, yeah, this is not good. There

788
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: is one There is one style and philosophy of how

789
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: to how to call plays offensively that Mike Tomlin Arthur

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00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: Smith have all the way over on the other side,

791
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: drink your milkshake all the way. On the other side

792
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers with, Hey, I don't like Candon. I

793
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: want to throw it all the time. Yeah, good Lee's

794
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: gonna anna pull the hell out of it. Good luck

795
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Speaker 1: when it goes well, you're gonna have the begrudging lead

796
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Speaker 1: the Mike Tomlin nod behind the sunglasses and move on.

797
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I give you this as evidence that this can uh

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00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: and and could work in the Aaron Rodgers let's air

799
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: it out mode. The final three regular seasons of Ben

800
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: Rothlisberger's career, Yeah, six hundred and seventy five pass ense.

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00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, six hundred and eight pass attempts. Yeah,

802
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: not doing that again. Six hundred and five passes, not

803
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: doing that again. He wanted out. He wanted out from

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00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: the Ben Roethlisberger aerial Show. But that was also the

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00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: end of Ben Roethlisberger, where he was no longer the

806
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: guy that could extend plays with his legs. He was crumbling. Well,

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00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: this is this is how he explained to Mike Tommy said, listen,

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00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: I know you like to run the football. I can't

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00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: throw the ball more than five yards, so it's really

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00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: like a running play. I'm accurate. I'll complete the ball.

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Speaker 1: It may only be a three yard game, but it's

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00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: like a running play. Oh well we'll do that then. Okay, great,

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00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: But we've talked about that a lot. That's been the

814
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: NFL for the last decade. Those are running plays essentially, right,

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Speaker 1: the quick flanker scream. Don't you think that's Tomlin going

816
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: from Okay, I hated the end of this era. What

817
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: do you think it's a coincidence that the quarterbacks they picked,

818
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: they have gone at the bargain basement guys that have

819
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: the last chance hotel to come play. Yeah, because I

820
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: want to make sure you're not gonna be some guy

821
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: to try to spray the football all in the field.

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Speaker 1: That's not what we do. You think there's a coincidence

823
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Speaker 1: that that's what they've been going after and now this

824
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: is just gonna be a disaster. It's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it. I told you taking

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Speaker 1: the underage as I told you by December, and thanks

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Speaker 1: to Mike Tanneboun for stealing our take that we've had

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Speaker 1: like like months ago. By December, it's gonna be Can

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers finish the season as a starting quarterback or

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Speaker 1: as Will Howard gonna get reps. That's what it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: And now you know that that take was today. Congratulations,

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00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: we had that take like a month ago. You're welcome Steelers.

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00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm so intrigued. But this is so good because it

834
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: takes all the air out of the balloon and people going, Hey,

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Speaker 1: is t J. Watt getting signed? Are you guys gonna

836
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Speaker 1: fight all off season? Like what's going on over there? No,

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Speaker 1: let's keep talking about Aaron Rodgers. But Arthur Smith getting

838
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Speaker 1: to go to the podium. How great is that? And

839
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Speaker 1: Mike Tom was going, uh, wishbone, all right, that's the

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Speaker 1: last time you're at the podium for the next three months.

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Speaker 1: That was great. Banned from the podium. Coming up next?

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00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Are we talking about a Pacers two to one lead

843
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: despite the fact they can't hit a three? That's next. Fox.

844
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: win it over the Thunder one sixteen to one oh seven,

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Speaker 1: and they take a two games to one lead in

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, and the team that goes up to

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Speaker 1: one wins the NBA Finals eighty one percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: Eighty one percent. Eighty one percent, Terrell Owens Andre Reid

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Speaker 1: eighty one Yeah, was he eighty or anyone? Eighty one

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Speaker 1: percent of the time. Now, two big things coming off

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Speaker 1: this game. We just watched the Pacers beat the Thunder

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Speaker 1: and a game in which the Pacers didn't do their

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Speaker 1: A and B things really well, which is hit threes

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Speaker 1: and get superstar games from their star players. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They were still able to win. Benedict mathern

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Speaker 1: off the bench with twenty seven points. TJ McConnell had

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Speaker 1: ten and five, right Obi Toppin had eight and seven.

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Speaker 1: They're eight to no. Now with Caitlin Clark in attendance

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Speaker 1: and games, that's a big deal. She showed up and

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Speaker 1: you knew you were in trouble. Here's the first one

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Speaker 1: that gets us to the bigger point, right. The first

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Speaker 1: one is I kind of said this half kidding lye

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Speaker 1: last week, but now it really you look at this again,

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Speaker 1: eighty one percent chance to win the finals. Doesn't it

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Speaker 1: look like the Pacers are a team of destiny? This

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Speaker 1: entire NBA Playoffs, the comebacks in the first round against

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, the second round going out the Calves, the

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Speaker 1: way they did that incredible series with the Knicks and

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Speaker 1: the greatest comeback in the history of the NBA, and

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Speaker 1: Halliburton making the choke side, and Halliburton's dad getting banned

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Speaker 1: from games because he stood in front of Giannis and

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00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: was mocking him and trolling him. Then he gets to

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00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: come back to the games and they still find ways

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Speaker 1: to hit shots and win, and the small market team

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Speaker 1: feel good story. Like last week it was eh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but now it feels like, oh, we've been missing it

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Speaker 1: all along. They look like a team of destiny. Whatever

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Speaker 1: they need, they're gonna get. Hey, good game from Halliburt tonight,

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Speaker 1: Really good game? Was he over the top dominant?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Really good game from Siakam tonight? Was he over the

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Speaker 1: top dominant?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: But Hey, doesn't matter because you had Matherin off the

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Speaker 1: bench for twenty seven points. I think it feels like

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Speaker 1: anything they want when they need to, they get it,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter who they play. They should have

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Speaker 1: probably lost to the Bucks, doesn't matter if Bucks where

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00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: the Bucks were hamstrung, but they still need the big

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Speaker 1: comebacks they want, not the better team against the calves Caves,

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Speaker 1: better regular season team, doesn't matter. They beat the Calves

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Speaker 1: Nick's higher seed, more excite, I mean, better starting five,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They wind up winning this thunder best team

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, stars everywhere, perfectly a place team when

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Speaker 1: it comes to how it's constructed, doesn't matter. Up two

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Speaker 1: games to one, they find a way even when they

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Speaker 1: don't have an A plus night like they seem like

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Speaker 1: a team of destiny, destiny destinies. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to pluralize it or not. The team team

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Speaker 1: of destiny, team of destiny, Indiana Jones and the Dial

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Speaker 1: of Destiny. The Indiana Pacers are the team of destiny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking, maybe we need a different word,

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Speaker 1: because clearly that got co opted shortly after we said it.

913
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Speaker 1: But all of that to say it has been a

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Speaker 1: magical run, no question about it. In terms of balance

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Speaker 1: and definition, right, steal a little from Arnold Schwarzenegger and

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Speaker 1: pumping iron while I'm at at it, right, always work

917
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Speaker 1: for balance and definition and finding guys off the bench.

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Speaker 1: And this is where we talked about the team, Depp

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Speaker 1: coming into the series to give them a little better

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Speaker 1: than the what minus seven hundred I believe were the

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Speaker 1: series odds for the Thunder coming in. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: got it to six. Looks like I could be wrong,

923
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Speaker 1: it could be six going the other way, but that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be a walkover by any by

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Speaker 1: any in any way, shape or form. Just the team's

926
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Speaker 1: too good, too creative and fast paced, right, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: make you pay. And we watched it tonight. You look

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Speaker 1: at Shay Gilders, Alexander playing a little bit recklessly with

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Speaker 1: the basketball. He ends up with six turnovers. I think

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00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: that was a career playoff high. You look at Alex Cruso,

931
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: who's been money for them off the bench. He's minus

932
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: fifteen and got worked in time and again. And you

933
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: just watch all these secondary players show up and it's

934
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Speaker 1: not to diminish them, it's just saying your headliners are Siakam,

935
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Speaker 1: your leading scorer in the regular season, and Haliburton, who

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Speaker 1: filled the stat sheet in every category today. But you

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Speaker 1: got the huge bench contribution of the second quarter. What

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Speaker 1: you got out of Matherin and McConnell was just ridiculous

939
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Speaker 1: and that helped carry you towards this victory. When you

940
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Speaker 1: got a great start from Chat On the other side,

941
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Speaker 1: you got three point acumen from lou Dort, didn't matter.

942
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Speaker 1: They took care of your turnovers and turned them into points,

943
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Speaker 1: something that both teams have struggled doing earlier in this series.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: Now the big read, because now the thunder have gone

946
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: from Boy, they're a fun story. I hate the Knicks,

947
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: so hey, I'm glad they beat the Knicks. Boy, Halliburton's

948
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Speaker 1: kind of fun. Now, it's whoa. This team is on

949
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Speaker 1: the cusp of winning the NBA title, right, this team's

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Speaker 1: on the cut and kind of playing off the team

951
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Speaker 1: of Desney. Thing a little bit is that when we talk,

952
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: and really Halliburton is at the forefront of this, right,

953
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: but it gets much bigger than him. Right. You want to, hey, listen.

954
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you take this and use this in conversations

955
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: with your friends to mark cause I'm sure're gonna see

956
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Speaker 1: it on TV and on the radio. Halliburton has been

957
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Speaker 1: a player whos off of the you overlook me, you

958
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: overrate me? Right, that'll the thirteenth sell said he was

959
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: the most overrated player. Moncey Bolanos is buying T shirt.

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00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: It's probably hit. Bonzi bought like ten of those Halliburton

961
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: T shirts. She's got the next decade overrate this right,

962
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Speaker 1: And Halliburton's been at the forefront of that. Right. He's

963
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: been hey, you know what I am. When when you

964
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Speaker 1: when you overlook me or you think I'm not great,

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Speaker 1: that's motivation for me. And I talked about how you

966
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: listen when you're truly one of the greats. You got

967
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: to do it every game, right. You can't just hey now,

968
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm motivating right now. You got to give it to

969
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: me every game. But overall, why are the Pacers this good? Right?

970
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: Why are the pick They're a fifty win team, they

971
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs and all of a sudden they

972
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 1: play like they have a chip on their shoulder because

973
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: you know why, because most of their players do. Right,

974
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: you'd want to talk about a team that's filled with

975
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: guys that have been overlooked or not getting the attention

976
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: they deserve. Right. You have Halliburton, right, who was drafted

977
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Speaker 1: by the Kings, gets traded to the Pacers, and he

978
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: had a pretty good first year and a half of Sacramento.

979
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Speaker 1: But then he gets traded the Pacers. All of a sudden,

980
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: he blossoms, right, scores six more points a game, and

981
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: now he's an All NBA type player, right back to

982
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: back years. Completely overlooked. Pascal Siakam, Right, Okay, Siakam was

983
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: a really good player, but well, Kawhi Leonard is better

984
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: and Fred Van Vliet was better. Ska was kind of

985
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: a glue guy. Hey, really talented, No, guess what overlooked

986
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: his career. Look at where he is right now and

987
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: he plays He's playing like peek Kevin Durant over the courses. Right.

988
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: You have Matherin, of course, coming off the bench. Who

989
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's playing for a big contract someplace else

990
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: where I can go and be a starter. Right, this

991
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: is Matherin being motivated because hey, I'm overlooked. I should

992
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: be a starter somewhere in the league. TJ. McConnell's been

993
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: overlooked his entire career. And I play like I'm the

994
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: guy in the pickup game that you absolutely hate because

995
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: my motor always goes, and I treat you with disdain,

996
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: and you are the most hated player. Just seeing TJ.

997
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: McConnell dribble the ball on the court, you hate him, right,

998
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: But we said that going back to the for long

999
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: before he vanquished your Knicks. But he's everything you want

1000
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: in a player like that. It's everything you want in McConnell,

1001
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: who comes in and his motor is at a million.

1002
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 1: Obie Toppin right, overlooked by the Knicks. Why hey, first

1003
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: round pick came in. The Knicks you know, brought him

1004
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: along really slow. But then it was what are we

1005
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna do because we have Julius Randall playing in your position.

1006
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: Obie Toppin never got the chance to play enough minutes.

1007
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: Overlooked goes to the Pacers, Right, These are these are

1008
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: their most These are some of their most important guys

1009
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: who are here that that are that are that are

1010
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: able to play and are able to succeed. Right, And

1011
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: then you have guys like Nee Smith and and and

1012
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: I can't say his name because of the three less

1013
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: times is right, But I mean like and and even

1014
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: even got still miracle three from last year. But now,

1015
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: but you have a guy like Miles Turner who's played

1016
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: his entire career in Indiana, right, and and he's came in, Hey,

1017
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: he could might maybe he could be the next superstar player.

1018
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: But instead he's been a nice thirteen to fifteen point

1019
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: a game guy for his career. But still, hey, now

1020
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: I am here in the spotlight for the first time

1021
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: in the finals. And even though he has a bad game,

1022
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: it seems like he always hits a three at some

1023
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: point in the game. That makes no sense, right, But

1024
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: you know that's to a lesser extent. But you look

1025
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: at some of the guys you just talked about, they've

1026
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: all been overlooked, they've all been overrated or all, yay,

1027
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: maybe you're not as great as we think you are,

1028
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: and they all feed off of that. I look at

1029
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: a team that when I see the Pacers play, they

1030
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: are hungrier than the other team on the court at

1031
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Speaker 1: all times. And it doesn't matter, Hey, Halliburton and Siakam

1032
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Speaker 1: come out of the game, doesn't matter, because here comes topping,

1033
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: here comes McConnell. Here comes Matherin and they pick up that.

1034
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: They kick into that next gear when they come on

1035
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: the court. Okay, great, and they keep playing. They keep

1036
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Speaker 1: reving that engine at the top and when the fourth

1037
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Speaker 1: quarter comes, everybody's fresh because they play rotation. So it's

1038
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Speaker 1: not like boy Halliburton looks like Brunston at the end

1039
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Speaker 1: where he's dribbling up the ball, it was like a

1040
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Speaker 1: fifty five year old man because he's been playing heavy

1041
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: minutes the whole game. No, they are there at the

1042
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: end and they're all fresh because everybody contributes. They they

1043
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: are just hungrier. The overlooked players are always hungrier. And

1044
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: this is a perfect moment in time where the Pacers

1045
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: have all of these players at one time and you're

1046
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: seeing it right now. Yeah, I think to pull it

1047
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: back just to that next level is then you look

1048
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: at Rick Carlile. I don't know that Adam Silver wants

1049
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: to hear this because I know he's been doing his

1050
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: media rounds so that it's like it's showing again your

1051
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: regular season. We shouldn't really read a whole lot into it,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of basketball to be played. I'm

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00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: not vanquishing the Thunder, But we're encapsulating things where we

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00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: stand in this moment. The eighty one percent likelihood of

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00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: finishing again, the Thunder came into the series minus seven

1056
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: hundred favorites. You should triple underscore that as you will.

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00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: But the Rick Carlisle appreciation post and recognizing again it's

1058
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: all about pacing and being ready for your second season. Right.

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00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: While they finished in the middle of the pack as

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00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: far as playoff teams go for the Eastern Conference, they've

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00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: had the best record other than the Thunder since the

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00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: first of January, Right, So fifty wins doesn't matter, right,

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Speaker 1: Look what happened with Cleveland, Ah a lot of wins.

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00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: Nobody cares you go home, You play hard, you finish.

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00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: So it's something we've been talking about a little bit

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00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, right in terms of load management and

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00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: all those other things in terms of pulling the strings.

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Speaker 1: When we look at Rick Carlisle, maybe there's a greater

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Speaker 1: appreciation for the coach he is coming out of this run,

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Speaker 1: win loser, draw, whatever this series ends up at this point,

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00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do with this roster.

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00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: Whatever the motivation is. Externally, Yeah, Halliburton's had plenty of

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00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: things and bulletin board material and thought pieces off TV

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00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: and sports talk radio and in the blog is sphere

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00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: that we've seen. But being able to know when to

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00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: insert maconn right when we need that energy Matherin, all right,

1077
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: go get it right, it's now your time and just

1078
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: keep shooting right. And he's been highly a f in

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00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: his minutes. But to trust that you're going to be

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00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: able to spell where there's not the anxious bone. How

1081
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: many times do we see say your knicks. Brunson's there

1082
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: like he's he's waiting for the bell to ring, like

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00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: all right, let me back in, let me come on,

1084
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: tag me back in already, whereas Haliburton's just sitting down waiting.

1085
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, you ready, Yeah, it's your time,

1086
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: go back in. Like there's a it's a more measured

1087
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: approach versus break glass in case of emergency. Well yeah, hey,

1088
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: we we were lying. Look and Jalen Brunson is a

1089
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: bigger superstar. But but the Pacers they have a numerous

1090
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: guys that can make you druses of that balance. Halliburton

1091
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: is the big one, but it doesn't matter. The end

1092
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: of the game could be Sika, it could be a.

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00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: Halliburton is great at getting his own shot, even in

1094
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: tight covered so that's why you default to him. Jalen.

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: Be's why the Knicks to fault to Jalen Brunson. But

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00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: Brunson's not giving the ball up like Halliburton. Give it

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00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: up to give it up to Nembark, give it up

1098
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: to Nismith, give it up to to anybody, right, Matt,

1099
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Speaker 1: I'd be happy if Matherick has taken the final shot

1100
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: of it. Give it off to Toby, and we're gonna

1101
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: keep going on. I mean, he's but it's there's a

1102
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: there's a difference. You see, everybody wants the ball, right,

1103
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: Everybody wants the ball, right, look Sga wants the ball, right,

1104
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: Chet wants the ball. Everybody wants the ball. But I

1105
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: see I don't see that absolute blood in your eye,

1106
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: hungriness at give me the ball. Then I'm seeing from

1107
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: the Pacers And again it's a big moment in time

1108
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: for them, because clearly, look as time goes on, Obie

1109
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: Toppin is gonna want a big contract. He wants to

1110
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: start somewhere. Mathern's gonna want a big contract, start somewhere.

1111
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: All these things are gonna have to happen. But right

1112
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: now they have that great mix of a great rotation

1113
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: that we can go eight nine deep and that pace

1114
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: of play doesn't change at all. There's no Hey, we

1115
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: hope to steal a couple of minutes, right Like, Let's

1116
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: use the Knicks for an example. When Brunson goes to

1117
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: the bench, the Knicks hope, hey, can we steal three

1118
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: or four minutes and keep the score of the way

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00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: it is, let's keep where the pacers they change. It's like, hey,

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00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: McConnell and topp In and Matheren committed and say, let's

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: push this lead out. It's almost like like the the

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Speaker 1: Warriors in the very beginning of their dynasty, where hey,

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're getting a breather when Stephan Clay

1124
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: go to the bench, but no, here comes Sean Livingston

1125
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Speaker 1: and and Igwidala and suddenly it's hey, their bench comes

1126
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: in and a twelve point lead. When the when the

1127
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: starters come back in, oh, it's a sixteen point lead,

1128
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Speaker 1: Like this is what that reminds me of, And it's

1129
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Speaker 1: the their absolute hunger and they're playing at that pack.

1130
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Speaker 1: This is a perfect moment in time for them for

1131
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: the way this team has been put together, and I

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Speaker 1: give Rick Carlyle a lot of a lot of credit.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I can't believe in the postgame press conference

1134
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Speaker 1: James Dolan's not going to be there asking Rick Carlyle, hey,

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Speaker 1: do you want to leave me become my head coach? Now?

1136
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Speaker 1: Is that James Dolan and the beard and glasses? No,

1137
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: it's not meaning start playing harmonica. He's wearing a trench

1138
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Speaker 1: coat like a boom box over his head with some song.

1139
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Speaker 1: I expect that to happen. Hey, Rick, do you want

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Speaker 1: to come? Do you want to come come coach the

1141
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Speaker 1: next next year?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I know, can come mister the

1144
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Speaker 1: finals and they they're the next to deny the request, right, yeah,

1145
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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I know you're down to one. But hey,

1146
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: we got okay, I will wait wait wait, okay, that's fine,

1147
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: We'll wait a little bit. We'll wait a little bit.

1148
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay. I mean, look at even Rick Carlile.

1149
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Speaker 1: When you want to talk about guys who have been overlooked,

1150
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: like Rick carl has been a great entire career, but

1151
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Speaker 1: Rick Carlile's that you know. Did you mentioned Rick Carlile's

1152
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: name when its name of great coaches in the NBA. No,

1153
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: we talk about Kerr and we talk about Spolstra and

1154
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: Jason Kid's gotten a lot of run the last week games.

1155
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: You talk about Greg Popovic, But does Rick Carlyle get

1156
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of run known? He's been a great day

1157
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: a long time, right, right? He is a champion. Is

1158
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: a guy with a lot of fifty win seasons under

1159
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Speaker 1: his belt. I mean there's a lot. There's a lot

1160
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Speaker 1: to there's a lot to say for putting a bunch

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Speaker 1: of talented guys together who are overlooked. And you can

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Speaker 1: buy in for that, right. You can't buy in for

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00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: a long period of time, Like that's not a four

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Speaker 1: or five year buy in. It's more of a moment

1165
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: in time. But that's all the pacers care about right

1166
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: now is this moment in time? Right, And then you

1167
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: find the next batch of guys. If you have that

1168
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: run of continuit Ian Carlisle still getting after it, you

1169
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: go find the next batch of guys that have been

1170
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: discarded and are disgruddled and get them to play the

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Speaker 1: same way. Exit out about a Fresco exit swalling down

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Speaker 1: the Jason Smith Show with a best friend Mike Harmon