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Speaker 1: managing editor of fish Stripes, where we cover your Miami

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Speaker 1: It's been busy. It's always busy over there. Win or

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Speaker 1: all had high expectations for Sandy Alcntra this year, how

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Speaker 1: schedule makers. They waited sixty plus games into the season

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Speaker 1: be back this year. Still not even totally sure if

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Speaker 1: he's going to go on the injured list, but we

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Speaker 1: will find out for sure pretty soon exactly what's going

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Speaker 1: to go on with him. He's the type of player

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Speaker 1: he's always had immense talents. It would not be shocking

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Speaker 1: at all if Machado got some MVP love, especially playing

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Speaker 1: for a team that has been without Fernando Tatist all

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Speaker 1: season long, for a team that is obviously winning more

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Speaker 1: games than the Marlins are to this point. If we

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Speaker 1: assume that Machada is going to miss a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time, that's going to put Paul Goldschmidt perhaps in

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Speaker 1: the front runner position. Ould Schmidt has had an amazing

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Speaker 1: career and this year is to this point on pace

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Speaker 1: to be as good as he's ever been for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: He is right around the league leaders in not only

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Speaker 1: hard for a first baseman to be on pace for

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Speaker 1: eight wins above replacement, but that's what he is doing. Actually,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of close to nine wins above replacement at

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Speaker 1: his current pace. From how he's performing with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: He's a sensational player. He's also an older player. He

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Speaker 1: is going to be by the end of the season

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Speaker 1: thirty five years old. The last time a player of

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Speaker 1: that age one an MVP in either league, it was

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Speaker 1: justin More No way back in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: Now that's the name from the past. He won an

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Speaker 1: the American League while a member of the Twins, and

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Speaker 1: I remember that year even that was a little bit controversial.

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Speaker 1: It was not an easy win for more no year otherwise,

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Speaker 1: the MVP is a young man's game, and so while

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Speaker 1: I would not doubt Goldschmid's talent, I do wonder exactly

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Speaker 1: whether physically he's going to be in a position to

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Speaker 1: maintain these immense numbers to continue with a weighted runs

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Speaker 1: created plus that's nearly two hundred, nearly double the league average. Physically,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to hold up even

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Speaker 1: if he plays almost every game, will fatigue set in

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Speaker 1: and bring some of those numbers down to numbers that

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Speaker 1: are just more indicative of his career norms as he

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Speaker 1: is at a stage of his career that normally is

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Speaker 1: post peak. I'm not going to count him out, but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that even he has some flaws as a candidate.

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Speaker 1: Outside of those two in the National League, Tommy Edmond

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Speaker 1: in terms of war is right there as well. Gold

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Speaker 1: Schmith's teammates, and if you're surprised by that, I think

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Speaker 1: everybody is that is heavily boosted by his defensive value that,

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Speaker 1: even though perhaps analytically gets valued at that kind of

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Speaker 1: level when you're truly the best of the best at

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Speaker 1: your position. I think historically the voters don't necessarily feel

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Speaker 1: the same way to think that Tommy Edmond and his

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Speaker 1: sub eight hundred ops and his pace for about seventeen

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Speaker 1: home runs, to think that he is really going to

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Speaker 1: be taking seriously as an MVP candidate, I think we

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Speaker 1: can all agree that's not something to worry about. Paul

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Speaker 1: Goulds made is somebody on his own team that is

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Speaker 1: going to be grabbing a higher percentage of those votes

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Speaker 1: if it does ultimately come down to that. What Sandy

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Speaker 1: is doing just to crystallize this case. For Sandy, he's

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Speaker 1: stepping up. He is doing the exact same thing no

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Speaker 1: matter what, every time he takes the mounds at a

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Speaker 1: brilliant level for a team that would be broken without him,

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Speaker 1: absolutely shattered without him. This rotation is it's him and

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Speaker 1: Pablo is very good, and then it is just a

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Speaker 1: bunch of question marks due to injury and due to

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Speaker 1: just immaturity of these pictures not yet being the full

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Speaker 1: version of themselves at everybody else outside of him, and

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Speaker 1: even with somebody like Pablo does not providing the kind

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Speaker 1: of endings it has put so much pressure on this bullpen,

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Speaker 1: pressure that this bullpen has not been able to deal

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Speaker 1: with this year. They have faltered again and again in

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Speaker 1: those situations. The only piece of tape keeping this thing

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Speaker 1: together is the fact that Sandy provides so many innings,

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Speaker 1: so many quality innings, every time he takes the mounds.

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Speaker 1: It allows the relievers to rest, It allows, of course,

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Speaker 1: the team to win. They've won seven of his last

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Speaker 1: eight starts, and it takes some of the pressure off

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Speaker 1: the other pictures when it's their turn to come up,

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Speaker 1: that if you're just coming off a win, can exhale

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Speaker 1: a little more. By he's saving the bullpen, he's just

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Speaker 1: uplifting the morale of the team. The fact that almost

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Speaker 1: every time he takes them mount, they feel they can win,

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Speaker 1: no matter how undermanned this team is on paper right now,

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Speaker 1: especially in games against superior teams like the Braves and

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Speaker 1: like the Mets, the fact that he's beaten both of

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Speaker 1: them recently speaks to the unique ability that he has

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Speaker 1: as one man to elevate the performance of his entire team.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be enough to keep this team

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Speaker 1: around in the playoff race all season long? You know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about that? I do not ultimately feel

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Speaker 1: like he's gonna make that much of a difference, just

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Speaker 1: because it would be so incredible to do so given

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Speaker 1: the lack of available talent right now on this team

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Speaker 1: due to injuries. But if he does do that, that

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Speaker 1: would help his case, and even if not, it's just

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Speaker 1: the difference between him and everybody else in the league.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody providing his level of volume, and there's nobody

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Speaker 1: else in the league league adjusted, park adjusted that is

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Speaker 1: as effective as he is. When you combine those two

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Speaker 1: and you see how he is just controlling the game

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Speaker 1: in a way that shouldn't even be possible. The way

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Speaker 1: that he keeps the ball in the ballpark, and the

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Speaker 1: way that he pitches around jams again and again and again,

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Speaker 1: the way that he gets stronger as the game goes on.

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Speaker 1: He has a case. I think he could be the

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Speaker 1: one that breaks that drought of pitchers not winning the

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Speaker 1: MVP Award. So he's on pace for jeez, more than

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty innings. I think he's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be in that conversation all season long,

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Speaker 1: during a time, especially in the National League, where there

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Speaker 1: just is not very much brilliant starting pitching, moving into

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Speaker 1: an era where people prioritize building deep pitching staffs and

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Speaker 1: building complimentary pitching staffs. More so than about any individual player,

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Speaker 1: he is that one individual that still grabs the spotlight,

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Speaker 1: absolutely succeeds every time he's put under that spotlight, doing

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Speaker 1: it in a way that we've rarely seen in Marlin's history,

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Speaker 1: and doing it in a way that is unrivaled by

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Speaker 1: anybody else across Major League Baseball. On the next episode

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Speaker 1: of the official show, I am going to be starting

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Speaker 1: a series every Thursday where I'm going to dedicate those

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Speaker 1: Thursday shows between now through the end of July on

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Speaker 1: the trade market, in particular players on the Marlins who

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Speaker 1: I feel are trade candidates. The plan is on Thursday

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Speaker 1: to begin by focusing on the bullpen, the few pitchers

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Speaker 1: in this Marlins bullpen that actually have positive trade value

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Speaker 1: and may have some significant appeal on the market. I'll

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Speaker 1: be joined by several of my other staffers on that show.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a group conversation on each of

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Speaker 1: those Thursday episodes right here exactly where you're listening to

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Speaker 1: the show right now under the same official show title.

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Speaker 1: On the same podcast channel. Thank you to everybody who

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Speaker 1: listens and supports the show. All your feedback is much

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Speaker 1: appreciated as well. I've been elas Susman here on the

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Speaker 1: Fish Strips podcast. I'll talk to you again soon. Go

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