1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Chris Harry with you on a brand 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: new episode of Chargers Weekly Training Camp coming to a close. 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: We've been coming to you live from Jack him at 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Sports Complex. I think like the last three or four 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: episodes back at the home studio, and you know I 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: love a good roundtable. This is the first time, though, 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: that we've done a mego roundtable. So coming up later. 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Jeff Miller, La Times, Joe Ready, Associated Press, and the 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Voice of the Chargers Matt money Smith will join me. 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: But first Compass on the Beat and Hops with Pop, 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Popper, The Athletic, Fernando Ramirez, Gilbert Menzado, Fernando of Course, 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, gil Southern California Newsgroup. Gentlemen, thank you for 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: joining me on our first ever mega roundtable. Great to 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: be here, guys, guy, I was expecting a little bit 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: more banter. I think at the beginning of this, gentleman, 16 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't think we want to interrupt one another, so 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: we kinda we kind of just let Pop say it 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: for all of us. Hey, Chris, I have my dog 19 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: trying to barge into my rooms. I'm like looking that way, 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: so sorry, I'm not distracted. My little dog heroler. Okay, 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: it's just a it's another little storyline within the pod. 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: Hey guys, let's just start with this. If you're a 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Charger Span and you didn't see a snap a training camp, 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: you're one big takeaway from this last month. Poper will 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: start with you. Yeah, I gotta start defensively and what 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: this new scheme is gonna look like, because that was 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: sort of a big question mark for me heading into it. 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: Where were all these pieces going to fit into the defense? 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: And the one thing that jumps out to you is 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: that there are going to be a lot of moving parts. 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: It is going to be the polar opposite of what 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley was doing with this defense over the last 33 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: four years, where it was pretty static. I mean, guys 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: were in one role and the same guys were coming 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: off when they went to sub packages and there wasn't 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot of disguise. It was like, Hey, this is 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna do it at a 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: really high level. We're going to execute it as close 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,279 Speaker 1: to perfectly as possible. It's a completely polar opposite philosophy. 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: It's throw as many different things as the opposing quarterback, 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: as possible to try and confuse him. It is distraction 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: and disguise, and that starts with Derwin James and a 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: lot of these defensive backs moving all over the place. 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: Derwin is playing three positions, Chris Harris is playing three positions, 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is going to be dropping into coverage periodically. 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna have five man fronts. They're gonna have four 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: man fronts. And so that is my biggest takeaways that 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a lot different. It's gonna look 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: a lot different on defense, and the Chargers are hoping 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: that leads to more success from their premium players and 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: across the board. And I think that that's what's so 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: fascinating is we've seen it on the practice field. These 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: starters had not played together in a preseason game. So 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Week one at Washington really good be the first time 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: we see how this all goes down. For data, what 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: about you man? One takeaway for a charge of fate 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: who has not seen any camp. Derwin James is back. 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Derwin James is back. That's as simple as I can 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: put it. I mean, Derwin really the last two years 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: during training camp he's gotten hurt and I mean I 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: remember all of us were like, oh, Like every time 62 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: you'd see him go up for a hit or even 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: during the joint practice, you back oh. And he was fine. 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: He did everything he needed to do. The thing is 65 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: his leadership too. They missed his leadership. He really is 66 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: the guy that that goes up. And I remember there 67 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: was a play earlier in training camp where he's telling 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: a Sandy Samuel while they're running. He's like, stay inside, 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: stay inside. I got the outside. You could hear him 70 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: screaming at him, and Asante obviously kind of messed up 71 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: and took the outside a little bit, and he's like, no, no, no. 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: They come off the field and Derwin goes straight to 73 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: him and starts talking to him and starts telling him, no, dude, 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: you stay out, you stay inside. I'll stay I have 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the outside. So that's the thing that the Chargers missed 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: his leadership because Joey is a leader, but he's more 77 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: of a quiet leader. He's lead by example stuff like that. 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: When Derwin is a vocal leader and he really takes that, 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: he really takes that to the next level. Jim Trotter 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: from NFL Network wrote today that a lot of the 81 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: employees around the Chargers believe that he's the first leader 82 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: that they've had on defense since Junior say out and 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: not saying a lot. So definitely they missed Drwin. Derwin 84 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: is now back, and I think I saw the other 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: day a stat where it said that Joey and Derwin 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: have only played twelve games together. So hopefully they can 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: ascend that to all sixteen this season, because to watch 88 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Joey and Derwin on the field at the same time 89 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: would be very special for the Chargers defense to have 90 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: them both. Yeah, and that's going back to twenty eighteen, 91 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: So just imagine those guys together for maybe seventeen games 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 1: this year. And yeah, Trotter had a great Dace. Jeremy 93 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Fowler also had a good piece on Derwin. You guys 94 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: should check out Gil. What about you, man? Yeah, I 95 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: think I feel like it's every other year kind of 96 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: thing with the focus being on the offensive line. I 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: feel like for the for the Charge to go really far, 98 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: it depends on the offensive line, because you know, they 99 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: look pretty good with the starters, but there isn't like 100 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: we got a little glimpse of it. There's an injury. 101 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Things to go pretty bad and pretty south, really fast. Uh, 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, Rashawn Stater looks really good. Corey Lindsay looks 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: like it's really great as well. But if there's an 104 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: injury to his offensive line, I'm getting worried about the 105 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: charge of overall. We saw, you know with Trey and 106 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: Stormy they're kind of they're struggling. But if that five guys, 107 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: those starters are in there for to protect us in Herbert, 108 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: they should be okay. But that's asking a lot to 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: stay healthy for an offensive line throughout the whole season. 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: All negative. Nancy Froze very we're gonna let this playoff 111 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: the NFL. But we didn't get any of that, Gil Froze. 112 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Gil was making some excellent points about the offensive line. 113 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: I think he's back now, back now, pick up where 114 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: you left up where you're we're on a role so 115 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: you're yeah, you're just saying, how you join the band 116 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: my bandwagon of worrying about the Chargers offensive line, Deppe 117 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: and they're when over you can see something you can 118 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: have said justin Herbert is a machine. But Gilbert, it's 119 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: a great point because again this is this is gonna 120 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: be something that we haven't seen yet Week one. This 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: offensive line of what we expect to be Slater, Filer, Lindsley, 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: a Bushe and Bulaga week one against Washington and their 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: defensive line probably the best in football. So um, it's 124 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: it's one of those things, just like Papa was talking 125 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: about with the defense. Um, we're gonna actually see how 126 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: this all goes down. It's one thing to see them practice, 127 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: but but transferring that into a game September twelfth at Washington. 128 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: I think that's what Chargers fans are are really excited 129 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: to see up paper. Let's talk about just performances at camp. 130 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: A non rookie, which non rookie has impressed you the 131 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: most throughout training camp including the games? Oh, non rookie 132 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: who has impressed with the most? I would say Kaiser White. Yeah, 133 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: he has been to me the most productive defensive player 134 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: on the field at any position. Obviously he has the 135 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: two interceptions, but he just seems really comfortable in the scheme, 136 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: which is saying something because it's very complex. There's a 137 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts. Like I talked about, they're throwing 138 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: as much as they possibly can at opposing offenses, so 139 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: there is a bit of a learning curve with it, 140 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: and we've seen some guys sort of come on slow 141 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: early in camp, Chosu being one of them. But Kaiser 142 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: White has picked this up quickly and he is flying around. 143 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: You know. Brandon Staion Ronaldo Hill, the defensive coordinator, obviously 144 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: have both talked about how Kaiser has a unique blend 145 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: of safety and linebacker skill. He obviously was a safety 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: in college at West Virginia and moved to linebacker in 147 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the pros. But he moves like a safety but hits 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: like a linebacker, right And though that's a lot of 149 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: defenses in the league are looking for that type of player, 150 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's the vision they had for Kaiser 151 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: White when they drafted him. But he's being utilized in 152 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: a defense where he's not thinking as much. It's just 153 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: go play downhill, get after the ball, and make plays. 154 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: That's what these linebackers are being asked to do. And 155 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: that fits Kaiser white skill set perfectly. And we've seen 156 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: that jump out to the point where he is now starting. 157 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: He is starting next to Kenneth Murray. I think that's 158 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: pretty clear cut at this point from what we've seen 159 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: in practice jumping Drew Trankul. They say they have three starters, 160 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: but it's Kaiser White on the field, and he's put 161 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: himself in that position by the plays that he has 162 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: made in training camp and in the preseason games where 163 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: he's played sparingly. He's bigger this year. Rono Hill I think, 164 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: referred to him as a bully and right it shows 165 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: on the field. It's they want to play with an 166 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: edge and with energy. I've seen that clearly from Kaizer 167 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: throughout camping and in these games. Gil a non rookie 168 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: that you've been really impressed with. You know, I'll go 169 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: with Uh, I keep talking about him, but I'll go 170 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Donald Parkham for now. I was gonna hate me for this. 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Uh good one. I like that good one? Yeah, yeah, Gil, 172 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: Where did you get where in your genius did you 173 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: get that one from? I don't know. I won't give 174 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: you guys credit. You and fernand you and Poper love 175 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: to get credit, so I won't give it to you guys. 176 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: You know what, I blamed myself. I could have go 177 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: with Fernando before Gil, but that's where I was gonna. 178 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: That's actually where I was going. Yeah, I've been messing 179 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: up the whole time with my dog bargeing in my WiFi, 180 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get it right this time. Donald Parkham 181 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Junior has been most improved. I feel like on the 182 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: charges of Roster a year ago, he struggled with blocking 183 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: route running. He was a big body out there, red 184 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: zone threat, but he was in a complete tight end. 185 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: Now I'm seeing that in training camp. He stood out 186 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: to me right away. He was, you know, really improved. 187 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: The first couple of weeks had a maybe like a 188 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: small injury and he kind of, you know, maybe maybe 189 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: uh slowly decreased at the production, but he is definitely 190 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: a top ttographer Justin Herbert. Herbert is looking to Jared 191 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: Cook and Donald Parham pretty often and it's hard to miss, uh, 192 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: the six foot eight tight end Donald Parham. And I'm 193 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: just really impressed with the route running. He's getting open 194 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, He's extending plays. Uh, 195 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: He's he's pretty fast for his size as well. So 196 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: I think for me it's gonna be a top weapon 197 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert. Am I am I hearing fantasy sleeper 198 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: here goil Oh, definitely uh take him and I don't know, 199 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's full roun take a flyer on Donald Parham Jr. 200 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: Guys When Hunter Henry went to the Patriots. Everyone was like, Okay, 201 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: well now the tight end room. What are we gonna 202 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: do there? You see what Jared Cook was able to do. 203 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: You know, especially at the beginning of training camp, Peter 204 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: King thinks that he's the X factor on this offense. 205 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: So Cook and Parham and you know, Parm's just another 206 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: name that we we didn't really know less year. We 207 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: knew of him him and we knew that he was 208 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: from the XFL. Justin really introduced us to these guys 209 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: throughout the course of last year. And now guys like 210 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: t Billy Jalen, Guyton, Donald Parham, they're not really surprises anymore. 211 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: And in taking that next step in their development in 212 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one is gonna be really interesting. All Right, Fernando, 213 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: I gave you a little bit more time to think 214 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: of a third guy. Well, if you cover the La 215 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: Renegades last year, you would have known who Donald Parham 216 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: was because he had a seventy yard touchdown catch and 217 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: run against the La Renegades. I remember That's where I thought, 218 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Oh that guy would Wildcats Wildcats and oh Dallas Renegades. 219 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: He played for the Dallas Renegades. My bad. He played 220 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Renegades. Oh my god, I'm a terrible 221 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: human being. I know I'm terrible. No, no, no, don't 222 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: edited that out that that's all good. That's Gills, Gil's dog, 223 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: the wife, it's all. It's all staying in. I don't 224 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: have to. Oh my god, this is terrible. So I'm 225 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna go Kyler Frackle Facrol. I think he's caught on now. 226 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: It's in my head. Yeah. I know. He was a 227 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: guy that came in and a lot of people thought, Oh, 228 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Chenna Nuosus spot. He's really challenged Chenna 229 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: for the spot, and he's really made a name for himself. 230 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: I thought on last Sunday he just got constant pressure, 231 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: constant pressure. I know Cortez Broughten basically got that sack 232 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: for him, but hey, he deserved one at least, so 233 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: he was able to get that one. I think he's 234 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: he got consistent pressure against the Rams as well. So 235 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the guy that's opposite Joey 236 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: and and and. I think it's gonna be a healthy rotation. 237 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: They're not gonna make them play the full game. But 238 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: I think when the starting lineup comes out, it is 239 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna be Joey on one side and Kyler on the other. 240 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Kyler's been here before where with the Green Bay Packers 241 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: ten and a half sacks when he had a great 242 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: pass rusher next to him. So if he's opposite Joey, 243 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: it might be it might be good for him. It 244 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: might be open for him to get more and more 245 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: sacks because everybody's gonna be so worried about Joey sometimes 246 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: you forget about that other guy. So I definitely think 247 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: that he's one of those guys that's really improved. He's 248 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: a free agent signing that not a lot of people 249 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: talked about, but now everybody knows about him. And I 250 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: think he's gonna play a big role in the Chargers 251 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: defense this year. A sack, two tackles, three quarterback hits 252 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: in thirty two snaps. And I think Joey Bosa was 253 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: on the sidelines talking about him during the broadcast, is 254 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: that he's beating his man every single time. So I 255 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: think Joey's excited about this rotation on the other side 256 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: of him, and I think it has to be a rotation, right, 257 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Chenna and fact Roll, if you 258 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: can get those guys and keep them fresh. Opposite Joey, 259 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: that's what you want to accomplish, Popper, I said, non rookie, 260 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: because now we're gonna talk rookies, and I go back 261 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: to the first game against the Rams. There's so many 262 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: contributions up and down the rookie class. Even last week, 263 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: Josh Palmer gets touchdown inside, they seem gets an interception. 264 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: Who's been the most impressive rookie to you this training camp. 265 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Josh Palmer. He has been excellent. 266 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's been a training camp star by the 267 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: very definition of the phrase. I don't think that anyone, 268 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: including people in the building, expected him to come on 269 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: this quickly, but he has proven to be a very 270 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: capable NFL receiver in a short period of time. His 271 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: big body, strong hands, speed, strength, He can play inside, 272 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: he can play outside. He's reliable, like he reminds me 273 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Keenan Allen in those money down situations 274 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: third and three, third and four, third and five, third 275 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: and six, where he just can get open and then 276 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: he's reliable at the catch point. He can make contested catches. 277 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: He has some speed to win down the field. He 278 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: can really do everything you ask out of a receiver. 279 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: And I think the most noteworthy thing to come out 280 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: of camp was Keenan Allen saying that Josh Palmer is 281 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: ahead of where he was as a rookie in terms 282 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: of his route running, in terms of his football IQ, 283 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: and the other thing that's jumped out about Josh Palmer 284 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: is just his desire to get better. I mean, he 285 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: is the last guy on the field every day and 286 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: he's out there with Justin Herbert every day working on routes, 287 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: working on timing, working on that connection that is so important. 288 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Now in terms of his production this season, we'll have 289 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: to see. There are just so many players that deserve 290 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: targets on this offense, whether it's Austin neck Cler Keenan 291 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: Now and Mike Williams, Jerry Cookdonald Parham. We can go 292 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: down the list. So it is he gonna put up 293 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: the big numbers? I don't know, and I'm talking to 294 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: the fantasy people out there for this one, but I 295 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: do know that the Chargers have a player. It gives 296 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: them flexibility after the season in terms of how they 297 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: decided to handle Mike Williams, who's going to be a 298 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: free agent. But I think there's a lot of reasons 299 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: to be very, very excited about Josh Palmer's future in 300 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. At first drive against the Rams and the 301 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: four catches on that twenty one play drive and it 302 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: was six leading the team. Fernando, I'm going to you, buddy. 303 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna go with the everybody expects 304 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: me to go with one or two. I'm gonna go Nick. 305 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I mispelled his name over the weekend on Twitter, and 306 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: I apologize for that. But Nick Nieman, I think he's 307 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: a guy that's really stood out. I think I didn't 308 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: expect him to play this well. I mean when they 309 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: put him in there, he really I feel like he 310 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: lets his instincts take over, and I feel like that's 311 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: a solid player for the Charge and not for right 312 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: now because obviously they have Kaizier, they have Kenneth Murray, 313 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: and they have other playmen and they have Drew special teams. 314 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: Is exactly where they're gonna need him. So definitely, that's 315 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: where I think he's gonna end up needing the shine, 316 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: and I think he will. I mean, he just he 317 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: said it the other day on Sunday. He said, that's 318 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: where my brother really found his niche with the Kansas 319 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, and that's where I think he expects himself 320 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: to find uh success and making this team is gonna 321 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: be through special teams. So I think he's a guy 322 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: that that really plays with his instincts. I think he's 323 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna I if I I'm no stradamus, I see at 324 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: least two special teamster and overs for him where he 325 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: recovers a fumble or something in key situations. So I'm 326 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna predict that for him. But I think this specially, 327 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: if this special team is gonna get play better this year, 328 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna need guys like Nick Niman to really step 329 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: up and and uh and play well for them. Compas. 330 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: There you go. I love it. Oka. Hey listen, nickname 331 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: is son of a coach in Iowa, and his brother 332 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: obviously plays with the Chiefs. I hope I'm really rooting 333 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: for Nick so we can get to week three and 334 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: see the brother battle. Anyw's he's an outrageously gifted athlete. Yeah, 335 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: you watch him play like he is a freak in 336 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: terms of his tackling ability, a sideline a sideline speed, 337 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: like he is a prototypical special and then you can 338 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: tell he really lets his incincts take over and he 339 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: knows exactly where everything's going, so that's exactly where he is. 340 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: And if he doesn't get the tackle, I mean, at 341 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: least he's in the way in a sense and somebody 342 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: else can come up and wrap up. So he's he's 343 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: a he's a special talent. The number thirty one throws 344 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: me off a little bit when when I see him 345 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: his positions live back. Yeah, Gil, I think you got 346 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: you got seven rookies to choose from from this class. Yeah, 347 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: it's looking like la okay, somebody has to talk about 348 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: Reshawns later. The people want Rashaunce later and get out 349 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: of my head for down though, because it is Roshaunce later. 350 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: How do you not go with the obvious first round choice. 351 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: I kind of already mentioned them, but my WiFi broke up. 352 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: So let's go back to Rashaunce later and him left 353 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: tackle rookie And we were there, Poper for now. When 354 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: we saw him go one on one against Joey Bosa 355 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: for the first time, we like we lost our minds 356 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: pretty much. We got carried away for a training camp 357 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: one on one battle. It was that exciting Rashaance and 358 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: enjoy Bosa and Saya got the best to him, and 359 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa has admitted as well that this guy was 360 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: raising my competition though, because the rookie was beating Joey Bosa, 361 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: and Bosa was like, okay, that's enough, let me get 362 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: some wins on the rookie and those who have been 363 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: going back and forth in training camp, and it's been 364 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: fun to see. And I know for a lot of 365 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: charges fans, they've they've been kind of you know, you know, 366 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: screaming for a good left tackle, a good offensive line 367 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: if and it seemed like the finally have it. Like 368 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: with Rashawn Later in the whole Union. I'm not Fernando. 369 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't have a Christal ball here, but I'm gonna 370 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: take a wild guess and say, Rashawn Stay is gonna 371 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: be really good as a rookie. Uh So make sure 372 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: that you know you take that to the bank, because 373 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: I know some stuff about football as well, like Poper 374 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: and Fernando, So I think Rashawn s Later I will 375 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: have a great rookie year. There was a little kind 376 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: of a little bit of a scare with the with 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: the lower back issue there, but he came back to 378 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: practice and he's looking like he hasn't missed a beat 379 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: just yet. By the way, Gilbert Gilbert Gilbert's lying. He 380 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: said the first thing that he thought when Rashawn s 381 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: Later and Joey Bosa went up at each other, He's like, 382 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: dang it. If I would have recorded that, it would 383 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: have been it would have blown up on TikTok. So 384 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: that's exactly what he said first, and then he talked 385 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: about how great the matchup was. Listen, hemm centric, Chris, 386 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: can I add one more in? Yeah, go for it? Okay, 387 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: I feel like he deserves a shout out here. Mark Webb, Yeah, 388 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: seventh round pick out of Georgia. The safety, I mean 389 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: Brandon's daley. Last year it was defense. According the Rams, 390 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: they go out, they find Jordan Fuller in the sixth round. 391 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: He becomes a very capable starter at free safety for them. 392 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: This year goes out in the seventh round, takes Mark 393 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: Webb out at Georgia, and this guy's looking like a 394 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: real piece for this defense, a significant depth piece. I mean, 395 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: they got him playing both safety spots. They got him 396 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: playing some star in the slot, they got him playing 397 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: some money. He's looking like a jack of all trades 398 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: in the secondary. He's picking balls off and he's looking 399 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: comfortable in the defense. He's big, he moves better than 400 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: I thought he did based on his testing times at 401 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: the Combine. So shout out to Mark Webb because I 402 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, the seventh round pick, you're typically 403 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: fighting for a roster spot, but he has earned his 404 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: way onto this roster and he's going to be a 405 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: key depth piece for the secondary this season. This good call, 406 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: and I'll just add Asante Samuel Junior because you've seen 407 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: him in his confidence kind of rise throughout training camp, 408 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: getting his hands on the football. He picked off garoppolo 409 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: and joint practices. I know he was behind on that 410 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: route a little bit, but heavy interception against Jimmy in 411 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: the game, and this is why the Chargers selected him 412 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: in the second round. He's a ball hawking corner. Get 413 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: the ball and get it to Justin Herbert and company. 414 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: And hopefully he can do that um and you know, 415 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: the coaches have talked about him playing both inside and outside, 416 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: so we'll see how his progression goes. But we know 417 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: about the bloodlines and to have a guy like Derwin 418 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: James in the secondary with him and Chris Harris Junior 419 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: to kind of teach him the ropes of playing in 420 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: the NFL's rookie year. I'm excited to see how they 421 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: use the ste this year. So they final thing. I 422 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: got a minute each most intriguing storyliner position battle entering 423 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: this Saturday, about forty five seconds each. We'll go around 424 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: the horn. Uh, let's start with gil first pick. Finally, kicker. 425 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the best competition battle is kicker. Yeah, 426 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: I think his name is Tristan. This guy I know, 427 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: did I get it right? Finally? And Michael Badley going 428 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: at it for the kicker position there, and Tristan had 429 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: a giant lead in this battle to start. Maybe I 430 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: should an exaggerate, but it was a pretty big lead 431 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: for for Tristan. And I think Michael Badgie pulled in 432 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: last week by making more more field goals and practices 433 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: in Tristan having that fifty yard field goal in the 434 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: preseason as the forty nine ers showing the lext drink 435 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: that we've been looking for in Michael Badger. So I think, uh, 436 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: they're pretty close now. I think it's still Tristan in 437 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: the lead, but this final game in Seattle. To give 438 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 1: you some storyline. People are tired of preseason games. They 439 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: want to move on to a regular season. Get excited 440 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: about Tristan and Michael Badgie going out in Seattle. That's 441 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be watching for the priests in finale 442 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: on Saturday Night for Compadamas, who wins the kicker Battle Compadma. 443 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: There you go, Tristan. I think he has a leg 444 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: Drink has been doing well in kickcoffs as well. I 445 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: take Tristan uh to win that job for sure. All right, Bernado, 446 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: you're up. Yeah, Well Paper called that one a couple 447 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, so I think it's been over. Um, 448 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Chase Daniel versus Easton Stick. Yeah, it's 449 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if you gather any of the comments 450 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: that Joe Lombardi said on Wednesday, you kind of maybe 451 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: know what way they're leaning. But I still think it's 452 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: been interesting to watch Easton Easton. I don't know for 453 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: what reason. During practice he's throwing interceptions, he makes mistakes. 454 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: Then it comes to the games and he's taking care 455 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: of the football. He's completing any eighty one percent of 456 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: his passes, And I know it's just preseason, but still 457 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting the way he's taking care of the football. Um. 458 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: But Chase, Daniel and Easton, I'm gonna be interested to 459 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: see how they go this weekend. I think it's gonna 460 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: be Chase goes first and then Easton goes second. But 461 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: but definitely, uh who doesn't like a good quarterback controversy 462 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: and quarterback battle, So I'm gonna have to go with 463 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: both of them. It's a good at least we're not 464 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: asking if it's gonna be Tyrod, if it's gonna be Justin. 465 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: It's a good thing to have a quarterback controversy when 466 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: it's the numbers three guys. That's a number one guy, 467 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: which which to me is the best position ever, the 468 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. You hold a clipboard, you get paid millions 469 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: of dollars. Popper, I got one more minute, go for 470 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: it all, right, wide receiver. The back end of this 471 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: step chart is to me, the most heated battle heading 472 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: into this final preseason game. You know you've got kJ Hill, 473 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: You've got Tyrn Johnson, You've got Jason Moore. These are 474 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: the guys that are really competing there. You can add 475 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Michael Bandy in there. Too as a potential punt returner. 476 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: kJ Hill's not nicked up right now. Jason Moore's nicked 477 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: up right now. So you really got three maybe four 478 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: guys battling for those you know, final two spots there, 479 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, after the big three. And I think Jayalen 480 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: Guiden has sort of cemented himself in that group, and 481 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: I can see really any two of them locking down 482 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: that final spot. Um, you know it's there's the rotation 483 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: has been u sort of you know, mixing up over 484 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. You know, Tyrn Johnson was 485 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: the fifth receiver on the field in that preseason game, 486 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: played well into the fourth quarter, which you know read 487 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: into that whatever you want to. Obviously was a super 488 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: productive player last year. But who who wins those final 489 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: two spots. I'll be watching closely to see who performs 490 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: in this game. Obviously Special Teams is going to be 491 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: a big factor. Who can provide some flex as a 492 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: kick returner, punt returner, even a gunner um potentially, So 493 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: that's a battle that I'll be watching heading into this 494 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: preseason game. This is what's cool about this podcast. I 495 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: got the next crew on deck here. It's almost like 496 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: the family feud because it's like the same questions and 497 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna see you werena compare answers right, who 498 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: who money and ready? And you won't get Nick Nieman, 499 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: you won't get Mark Webb, you won't get that from 500 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: from them. You're gonna get the first three. Uh, you're 501 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna get a Sante Rashaun and uh and uh Josh Palmer. 502 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: So we gave you, we gave you, we gave you 503 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: some of the back end guys. Who knows, maybe we'll 504 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: get a Trey McKitty or maybe we'll get a Larry 505 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: round Tree. You never know. One of the one of 506 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: the reasons I always love to do this too, especially 507 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: at be any of the season, is you guys all 508 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: do awesome work at your respective publications. But also we 509 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: got hops with pop. Is that coming? Is that going 510 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: to continue throughout the year? Um to be determined. I 511 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: think we're I'm gonna put out a poll sometimes soon, 512 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: but I think we're gonna do it um after games, 513 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: like on Sunday nights. But yeah, we'll see something we're doing. 514 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: So and then obviously compass on the beat every Tuesday, 515 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: Big Time guests. Uh rap sheet was this past week 516 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: YEP rap sheet. It was I bugged him at training 517 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: camp and he agreed to it, so it was a 518 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: lot of fun to have him on. Awesome. Well, I'm 519 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna try to get up on the sign 520 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: up list for Compass on the Beat anytime you guys 521 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: would like to have me. Oh yeah, definitely, Chris. They 522 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: big timey for six months pay. Unbelievable. All right, boys, awesome, 523 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: see ye, thank you. Thanks all right. Part two of 524 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: our Mega round Table thanks to Popper Gil and for 525 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: and oh. Let's bring into Voice of the Chargers Smatt 526 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: Muddy Smith, Jeff Miller, La Times, Joe Ready, Associated Press. Gentleman, 527 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: how are we doing? Awesome? Outstanding? Great, have money on here? 528 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, finally somebody on here with the 529 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: real voice. Yeah. Well, but not the intelligence that you 530 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: writers have, That's for sure. I'm the idiot, an I'm 531 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: just screaming a head, that's all I am. Yeah, but 532 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: we have the we have the quality. With the golden 533 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: platinum records in the background, exactly between between the medals 534 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: and the platinum records, we gotta cover. This is an 535 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: accomplished group. This is a very accomplished group. Hey, guys, 536 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: first thing, you all have been a camp for a 537 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Charger fan who didn't see a snap of training camp. 538 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: Just you're one overarching takeaway from the last month. Money 539 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: will start with you. Well, I would I would say 540 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: speed and energy is probably what I would go with, 541 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: particular liarly at the linebacker position. And maybe it's just 542 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: you know, bias, just because it's been such a bugaboo 543 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: for this team the last few years, injury at that position, 544 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: lack of depth, you know, watching Tyree Hill, Bernhy's pillard on, 545 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, those three by one formations and the over routes. 546 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: To see that particular group headlined by by Kenneth Murray, 547 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, and seeing him out there running around in 548 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: that that second preseason game and Kaiser White and Trank 549 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: Will I'm really in Nieman, you know, the sixth round 550 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: pick tip Like to me, that's just what I've noticed 551 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: in those two preseason games and practices is there's a 552 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: lot of speed and there's a lot of energy out there. Yeah, 553 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: if we just talk about Kaiser White, Ernodo Hill called 554 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: him a bully. Yeah, he's put on weight and he 555 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: plays with that edge and energy. I think that Brandon's 556 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: Daley wants to play with and just seeing Kenneth Murray 557 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: out there a practice yesterday, Drew Trank, will Um and 558 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: Nick Nieman, Man, I mean he may not necessarily see 559 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: the field on defense, but from a special team's perspective, Um, 560 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: he's a son of a coach, He's got a nose 561 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: the ball, and knows how to tackle. Are all three 562 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: things that that check the box. Jeff, what about you, man, 563 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick on the defense too. And just did 564 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Derwin James back? I think it we all saw with 565 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: different teammates here. You talk to these guys about him 566 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: and it's like he's three players. I mean they that's 567 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: how much he means this defense and how much they 568 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: missed him last year. And we all knew that really 569 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: the last two years. We all knew that. But now 570 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: that you see him back out there and you see 571 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: the difference he makes, he's calling signals and Staley loves him. 572 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: You know he wouldn't. He wouldn't have him in that 573 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: position to be calling the defense if he didn't. And 574 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: they all love him and they follow him, and he's 575 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: a leader, there's no question about that. And so I 576 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: think you look at that defense as Jens to be 577 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: really good and he's a big part of it. Just 578 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: having him back, it just it just feels different out 579 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: there on defense. Joe, I think this is like my 580 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: sixteenth or seventeenth NFL try in camp, and I never 581 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: saw as many live special teams periods then I did 582 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: during during this camp. Usually that stuff is done during 583 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: walkthrough periods when we aren't allowed in, which is usually 584 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: like I think an hour to ninety minutes depending on 585 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: depending on the structure of the day and everything. But 586 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: the live special teams drills starting from day one, usually 587 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: you don't see that from teams until maybe the first 588 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: weekend or a week and a half in if In 589 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: terms of field goals and all that, I think it 590 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: just impresses from Brandon Staley that this is going to 591 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: be very much. I think as he says a team 592 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: of teams and in stressing that this is a three 593 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: phase game, and how much he was saying from the 594 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: get go on practices that he was stressing it very 595 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: much on game situations, and we saw that from the 596 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: first practice. Money. I want to ask you about that 597 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: because obviously you called these games. You know how many 598 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: of those losses were due to special teams mishaps. When 599 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: you see how much they've focused on that phase of 600 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: the game, drafting guys to play special teams, specifically the 601 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: kicking competition, it seems like it's kind of raised everybody's level. 602 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: It's been very heightened that phase of the game. Well, 603 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: I guess you know the word I've used at this point, 604 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: it's just hopeful, you know, for the Chargers and the 605 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: Chargers fans. I don't know if they've resolved all their issues, 606 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: but like you said, they've certainly changed it. I think 607 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: it's a big reason why we have a whole new 608 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: coaching staff here. You know, I've never seen anything like 609 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: that Patriots game and all the years I've called football, 610 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: So I think that was sort of the exclamation point, 611 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: the straw that broke the Camels back. Whatever you know, 612 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: idiom you want to use it, I think that was 613 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: that was sort of the alarm bell. And no doubt 614 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be full scale changes. Well I shouldn't 615 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: say that. We'll see, you know, like Tai Long beat 616 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: out Lachlan Edwards, so they're bringing back the same punter. 617 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see if Badeley comes back as well. 618 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: And then you're talking about making sure your protections tight 619 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: and making sure your coverage units are are tight and better. 620 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned Nieman. We've seen Kamon Hall perform. Well, you 621 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: know Brandon on Bannon on those special teams units. So 622 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different faces, a new coordinator who 623 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: you know just being around and listening to him, he's 624 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: got a heck of a lot of energy. It's certainly 625 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: fun to be out there and watch him coach. But 626 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, until we actually see it in a game, 627 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: I think there's reason to still be a little bit 628 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: skeptical because it's been bad for a few years now. Guys. 629 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: I would go around the horn again, and Joe will 630 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: start with you a non rookie, most impressive non rookie 631 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: that you've seen in camp thus far. M you can 632 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: go justin, you can go you can go obvious, or 633 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: you can get I would go out on a limit, 634 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: say Easton stick, because you know there is a backup 635 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: quarterback battle. I think in the end, with as many 636 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: needs is his team has at other positions, I think 637 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: in the end they're going to keep just two quarterbacks. 638 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: And what Easton has directed both touchdown drives, I think 639 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: that throw that he made in the San Diego game 640 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: running to the right sideline, passing left, finding Josh Palmer. 641 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: Great play by both of them, but especially Easton with 642 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: three defenders bearing down on him and having enough physically 643 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: to be able to be able to loft that not 644 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: really a bullet, but being able to loft that pass. 645 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: And Money had a good view of it too for 646 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: two from the radio booth. I think it just shows 647 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: what he can do and maybe the different things that 648 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: they're that they're going to have him do during games. 649 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: I think we'll see more of the east and Stick 650 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: factor during games this year where maybe him and Justin 651 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: are on the field at the same time. Do they 652 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Tayston hill him at times? Maybe not as much as 653 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: New Orleans did, but do we have that factor during 654 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: games to keep teams honest? So I think that you know, 655 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure on Easton and Chase 656 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: Daniel coming into this camp in Easton is more than delivered. Yeah, 657 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: it's it's hard. I think Brandon Stale even said it 658 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: like he gave Chase Dannie a lot of credit for 659 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: just hanging in there in that second half of that 660 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco game. You're right. Saturdays you know, there's a 661 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: lot of things already kind of buttoned up. That quarterback 662 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: battle is to be determined. Jeff, what about Yeah, you 663 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: know what, Chris, I'll just jump in there. I think 664 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: that's a great observation. Joe. I agree. I can't imagine 665 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: them carrying three quarterbacks. I just think there's too much, 666 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: too much need at depth positions that we've seen get thin, 667 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: you know, through attrition over the course of the year. 668 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: And you know, when we were calling the game, it 669 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: was something we were focused on, and I think it's Look, 670 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: the leadership's nice. The veteran ear to to to have 671 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: is nice. But if God forbids something happened to Herbert, 672 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: who's going to go out there and win a quarter 673 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: and win maybe a game or two. And I don't 674 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 1: think it's even close. Like to me, Easton sticks gotta 675 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, looks to be that guy. Easton has played well. 676 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: I think he was at seven to seven in the 677 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: first game, and you know, yeah, some of those plays 678 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: he made. You mentioned them, one to Palmer, the thirty 679 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: nine yarder to Gighten down the sideline. He's always been 680 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: kind of on to watch. I remember the Arizona game, 681 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: Money a couple of years ago. Oh, look, he's an athlete. 682 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: You know. DJ said it the year they drafted him. 683 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: He said, t Taysom Hill, you know, and Coach Lynn 684 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: was like, hey, he ain't as thick as Taysom Hill. 685 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't think we can throw him out there on 686 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: special teams. You know, that's a little but I think 687 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: he could be. I mean the way Easton's built. If ever, 688 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: if you're ever around him, he's a thick dude. I mean, 689 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: he's an athlete. I think that's a great point, Joe. 690 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: I could totally see, especially with Lombardi here, that Taysom 691 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: Hill factor. And again, what do they want to do. 692 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: They want to pressure defenses. What better way to pressure 693 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: him than to have two guys out there that can 694 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: throw the ball and have no idea what's going to 695 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: happen when the ball snapped. Or we've seen read option 696 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: a couple of times during practices, training camp practices this year. 697 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: You throw Easton out there a couple of times on 698 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: a read option or you know, it's crazy as it sounds, 699 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: Herbert and Easton both, you know, both rolling right on 700 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: a read option and all the sunny you know, one 701 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: pitches to the other Jeff Easton Stick is off the board. 702 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: I need a non rookie, impressive player. I'm glad Joe 703 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: went first on this one because this is a tough one. 704 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: I think, you know, um, I'm going to go back 705 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: to Kaiser White. I think he not that he he 706 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: showed up as a rookie. He started right at the beginning. 707 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: It was right at the beginning of that first year. 708 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: Of course he got hurt and missed a bunch of time. 709 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: But I he, to me, looks like a guy and 710 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: he's going to rotate in there with with Drew Tranquill 711 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: that linebacker spot opposite Kenneth Murray, and he looks if 712 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: he can stay healthy. I think I was talking to 713 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: Tom Telesco recently and he said the thing about Kaisers 714 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: he looks like a linebacker now where he know, he 715 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: came out of college, he played a lot of safety 716 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: and making that transition that uh, Tom Telesco thought it 717 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: took it. You know, it takes a few years. He said, 718 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: Now he plays like a linebacker. He looks like a linebacker. 719 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: So I think that's encouraging for this defense. Another another 720 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: guy out there to to you know, make plays, to 721 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: be kind of a thumper. I mean he you know, 722 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: he's I'm not gonna say he's a Denzel Perryman. I 723 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: mean Perryman is different, you know, a little bit different 724 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to hitting guys. But I think Kaiser 725 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: is a guy who could go out there and can 726 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: you know some you know, you know, can be sort 727 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: of a presence out there that you know, players going 728 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: across the miller are going to know he's there. And 729 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: uh so he's a guy. I think if he can 730 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: stay healthy. We say this about all these guys, so 731 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, it seems like, but if he can stay healthy, 732 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: there's no reason why he shouldn't have a really good 733 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: season in the in this defense, especially, But you set 734 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: her off the rip man, I'm really excited about these 735 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: linebackers and what they could do in this brand and 736 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: Staley defense. Um, outside of Kaiser and Easton, you got 737 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah. I'm glad neither of them took him, 738 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: because as soon as you asked the question, it popped 739 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: into my head immediately, Kyler facral Um. You know, I 740 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of us were looking at Chenn and 741 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: the woe suit to be that that edge opposite Bosa, 742 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 1: but to me, it looks like Facral's taking that starting job. 743 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: He's been awesome. Um, I get the preseason as a 744 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: lot of backups he's been going up against, but man, 745 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: that dude puts pressure on an offense and you know 746 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: he's done it. You don't. Tom Talesco said it to 747 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: us the other day. He said, look, you don't luck 748 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: into ten and a half sacks. You might luck into 749 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: two or four one season, you don't luck into ten 750 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: and a half. That dude knows how to get out 751 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: for the passer. And the idea that there was a 752 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: question mark opposite Bosa coming into the season. I still 753 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: think Chenna is going to have a huge role and 754 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: be a great player opposite him. But to me, fac 755 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: Rols really raised his hands as someone who could be 756 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: a special player in this offense or this defense. I 757 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: should say, yeah, you know, we're just talking with the 758 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: other guys. It was such a question mark coming into 759 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: this year with obviously Melvin eventually going to Pittsburgh and 760 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: not knowing exactly what that was going to look like 761 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: opposite of Joey Bosa. But if you can have a nice, 762 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: healthy rotation with fac Rol and Nuosu on the other 763 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: side of Joey, and Joey was talking about how Kyle 764 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: was you had the best seat in the house for it. Money, 765 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: he was getting pressure consistently on Sunday, every snap, every snap. 766 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: You know, when you mentioned looking Rump, I think that's 767 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: your you know, your four man rotation there. We'll see 768 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: whether or not they make it five with egg Ballet, 769 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: whether or not he's you know, he's kind of that 770 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: fifth guy there, or or whom it might be. But 771 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, to me, that's again, you know, it was 772 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: a question mark. I think Rump is flashed. You know, 773 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: I know you're asking non rookies, but I think you 774 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: feel a little bit better, mostly because of fact roll 775 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: about that particular edge group. Well, Money, we'll start with 776 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: you and go back around the horn. Most impressive rookie 777 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: and there's a lot to choose from here, up and 778 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: down that class over the last time, I mean preseason 779 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: gamesman tim being it's easy, It's it's not even close, right, 780 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: I Mean, the Slater has been unbelievable, just unbelievable, So 781 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: especially considering what post he's gonna fill. You know that 782 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: was vacated, the disaster that was the offensive line last year, 783 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: particularly trying to protect Justin's blindside. I mean watching Slater 784 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: has been a revelation. He's, you know, as a rookie. Now, look, 785 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: nothing's live yet, it could change, but that dude's he's 786 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: just Every now and then you'll see a guy that 787 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: just pops. I'm not saying it's it's Derwin James, but 788 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: to me, he's popped. Like you watch him out there 789 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: on those one on ones, you watch him in the game, 790 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: and that dude's good. He is a good player. Yeah, 791 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: and it's wild as he hasn't played in a real 792 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: game in two years. And it'll be Chase Young two 793 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: point zero in Montes Sweat come Week one. Jeff Miller 794 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: favorite rookie or most impressive rookie. Rather, I'm gonna go 795 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: with Josh Palmer. I think we uh, he showed up 796 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: the day he walked out there the first time. He 797 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: sure looked like he looked like an NFL wide receiver, 798 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: and um, I think they they're pleasantly surprised, there's any question. Um, 799 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: I think uh. The other day Staley said he's probably 800 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: a little bit better than we thought. Maybe he was 801 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: going to be so, at least at this point of 802 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: his career, and you know they've all again, Keenan Allen 803 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: raves about him. Everyone you ask raves about him. But 804 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: he he just has that look, he has the body. 805 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he I think he's gonna, you know, he'll 806 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: he'll go out there a week one and you know, 807 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: he may not be a you know, eight catch for 808 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: one hundred yard guy right off the bat, but I 809 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: think he's gonna fit right in and teams are gonna 810 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: have to respect him and defend him. And uh, I 811 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: just he just looks. Uh the easiest way to say 812 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: it is, he just looks like he belongs out there. 813 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: It's not a reach that he's out there. And I 814 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: think they're excited about what he can bring and they 815 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: and gives a little more depth to that position and 816 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: just another option for Justin Herbert. That's never a bad 817 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: thing to have more choices for that guy to go 818 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: to you yesterday, Chase Daniel, He's been a part of 819 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: a lot of great New Orleans offenses. He said this 820 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: is the best wide receiver group he's ever been a 821 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: part of. So that's that's high praise. When we talk 822 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: about Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. Obviously but but the 823 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: way Palmer has kind of come in to this program 824 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: and really wowed a lot of people, a lot to 825 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: be said for that. Joe Ready, Yeah, that was that 826 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: was quite a comment by by Chase. I was surprised 827 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: by that. I mean that was we're talking about, like, 828 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees with multiple five thousand seas to 829 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: a lot of really good players, you know. Yeah, Joe, 830 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: what do you think, man, I'm gonna tie here because 831 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: money went first round, Jeff went third round. I'm gonna 832 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: go late round because you're gonna see but you're gonna 833 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: see both of these guys in games. I'm gonna say 834 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: Brandon James and um Nick Neeman, Um Neeman. What he's 835 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: done on defense with the tackling, especially during the San 836 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: Francisco game, Brandon James has been able to you know, 837 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: go in at the guard spot and play more than well, 838 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, if if Brian, if Ryan Blaga makes it 839 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: all sixteen games this year, I don't. I was in 840 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: Vegas last week. There's no prop bet on how many 841 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: games Brian Bulaga will play, even though that would be 842 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: an interesting, um, that would be an interesting prop bet 843 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,959 Speaker 1: or something that we can bandy about during the year, 844 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: but we're gonna see Brandon. We're gonna see Brendon James 845 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: at one point this year because right now, especially with 846 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: what we saw last Sunday Storm, between Storm and Norton 847 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: and Trey Pipkins, at least one of them is not 848 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: going to be here when final roster cuts are made, 849 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: and who knows about both on um final roster, once 850 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: everything around the league gets made and teams can start 851 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: picking up players and everything where right now that we're 852 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 1: right now, you can see a scenario where if if 853 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: Bulaga got hurt, Filer gets kicked out the right tackle 854 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: and Brendan Jay goes in and plays one the guard 855 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: spots because it because he is more than shown that 856 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: I think he is capable of going up against NFL 857 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: defenses and Nieman, We're going to see a lot of 858 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: them on special teams. Like you guys said earlier, I'm 859 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 1: gonna tell you a funny story. Joe. I was standing 860 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: with our one of our Spanish broadcasters, Francisco, and he 861 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: says to me, sixty four Jamie's he looks good. I 862 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: like him and I said yeah. I said, it's actually 863 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: pronounced himus and he said, wait, a minute. I'm the 864 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 1: Spanish guy, and the one time you're supposed to pronounce 865 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: it in Spanish the way that it's spelled, I say 866 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 1: Jamie's and you have to tell me it's Himus. He said, yes, 867 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it is himis even though his first 868 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: name is Brendon and he's very white, there's no question 869 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: about that, but it is. It is. In fact, Himus, 870 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: so go figure died from Nebraska. Looks like he does. 871 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: His first name is Brendon. When I saw that he 872 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: was selected by the Chargers, it was the same exact thing. 873 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: You look at his last name and it's like frend 874 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: and Jamie's. Yeah, I thought it was a typo. I 875 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: figured it was just a mistake. And frankly, Joe Joe, 876 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: we saw him next to Slater in that first game 877 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 1: they were malling dudes, you know him at left guard. 878 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: And the fact that he has a positional versatility. We 879 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: haven't seen this starting group yet, what will be the 880 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: first time we see it. The fact that they have 881 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: that positional versatility with Filer, with Himus, it gives them 882 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: some options in case there are injuries or you know, 883 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: they need to kind of figure other things out. A 884 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: plan B you know, will come later in the season. Yeah, 885 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: And I think we're all we're all holding our breath 886 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: wondering how this offensive line group is going to do 887 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 1: against Washington and Chase Young and you know, Young versus Slater. 888 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: The rematch, now on a much larger stage, is going 889 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: to be one of the one of the storylines to watch. 890 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: It's it's so exciting that even my dog would to 891 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: chew toys, trength make toys, uh, with how excited she 892 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: is about that matchup. Um, but um, you know too, 893 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 1: just with the offense and everything in general, I don't 894 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: think we've seen the true blocking schemes and everything that 895 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: Frank Smith has brought in until September twelfth, especially in 896 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: the run game. Is it going How much of a 897 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: zone blocking scheme is it going to be? And I 898 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: think the other thing to watch and Brandon brought it 899 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: up on Tuesday and we saw it in the San 900 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: Francisco game, the new penalty were cut blocks are eliminated? 901 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: How many how many of those fifteen yard penalties are 902 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: we going to see throughout the league? In Week one 903 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: or you know, in the in the Chargers h Washington 904 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: football team. Um, since since Kenneth Fury uh unintentionally dropped 905 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: a Redskins line in there on Tuesday. How many penalties 906 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: of that are we going to see during the season 907 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: of Week one? And I think Joe beyond him kicking 908 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: out And I think you're absolutely right if if I 909 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: think the depth of tackle is going to be Filer 910 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: and high miss kicking out to one of those, and 911 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: you're going to see someone come off the bench to 912 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 1: replace them at guard, be at Quest or Saint Louis 913 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: or whoever it may be. But um, I think I 914 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: think Higmus is in contention to be the starting left guard. 915 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 1: I could totally see him beating out Abushi um and 916 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: and having you know, it'd be Filer highmis. You know, 917 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: I have two is crazy. It may sound two rookies 918 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: on the left side. Um, but I think he's just 919 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: been that impressive, uh you know when when he's out there, 920 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: and it would not surprise me. It's amazing. So many 921 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: starts too in the Big ten and that's already that's 922 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: showing up, that's showing up at camp for sure. I 923 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: want to talk about this Washington football team game so 924 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: much because of the defensive line and the offensive line, 925 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: but we got one more Saturday, Seattle Money, you're gonna 926 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: be on the mic for a position battle that fans 927 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: should have their eyes on. What position battle? This late 928 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: in camp? You can have eyes on Saturday. Well, you know, 929 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: to me it's it's not really a fair fight because 930 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: he's not there. But to me, I don't know how 931 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: you I think it's hard to carry Justin Jackson. I 932 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: just think it is. You know, I think if Bradwell 933 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: shows out on Saturday, I could totally see it being 934 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: round Tree, Kelly and Bradwell behind Eckler because I think 935 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna keep neighbors. He's you know, he's a good blocker, 936 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: He's a true fullback. So you know, when you got 937 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: five in that room, I could I could see, you know, 938 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: Bradwell getting some carries and much like Eckler did in 939 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen when he showed out on special teams and 940 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: showed out in that San Francisco game ended up making 941 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: the fifty three, I could see that being something that 942 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: that comes to fruition. I loved JJ two man. I 943 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: really well, of course you do. You're a Northwestern guy. Wow, 944 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: of course, of course, But you know what I just 945 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 1: I go back to the Pittsburgh the moments I have 946 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: in my mind that Sunday night Pittsburgh game, how he 947 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: won that game those first two weeks of twenty nineteen 948 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: when when him and Eckler were like ripping off six 949 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,399 Speaker 1: yards a pop against Like I'm gonna I'm gonna interject here, Chris, 950 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say the most important ability is ability, Yeah, exactly. 951 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: And sixteen games in three years is that's tough, man, 952 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: That is just or whatever the number is, I know 953 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: it's really low. That is. It's just it's tough. Everybody 954 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: likes him, but man, that's tough. And he didn't. Man, 955 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: you can't make the club and the tub, especially with 956 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: the new coaching stuff. You can't miss a game at 957 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: Evanston too, That's I know. Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy. It's 958 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: been crazy for him. It's unfortunate. But yeah, you you know, 959 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how good Jark, you can't be out there. 960 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: You know, you can't help the team. So it's just 961 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: unfortunately hasn't been able to stay out there. Jeff, What 962 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: about you, man, what do you think for say to day, 963 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: what do you keep an eyes on? I hate to uh, 964 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to be that guy, but I'm gonna 965 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: go to the kickers. It's such, it does it does 966 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: mean something, obviously, and we've seen in the past in 967 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: this league this could end up being like an enormous 968 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: decision they make. Uh. I think I still have a 969 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: feeling this guy Ino is gonna win out just he 970 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: has a stronger leg you know they, I know they 971 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: they're valuing a lot of kickoffs and he he puts 972 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: the ball a little farther, a little higher. I think 973 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: that's ultimately gonna be a big advantage to him. Again, 974 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: I think we all like, uh, Michael Badgeley, we all 975 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: like him. He's a fun guy to talk to. Hell, 976 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, it was fun in twenty eighteen when he 977 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: did so well and came on and just stabilize that 978 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: position and and understandably was at that time was a 979 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: fan favorite. But uh, it's gonna at some point hopefully 980 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: you know this is you know, there isn't a point 981 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: this season where we're talking about kickers a whole bunch 982 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: again after this, uh, this last preseason game, once the 983 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: rosters are said ideally for the team, when they'd pick 984 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: one and that'd be it for the rest of the year. 985 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: We'd never even mentioned it. But it's gonna be interesting 986 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: to see what they do. And it'll be interesting in 987 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: this game if they both get chances, how they do what? 988 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 1: You know, badually made a fifty yard or last week, 989 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: so this guy, you know, can get in there and 990 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: you know, CounterPunch. We'll see. But it's kind of a 991 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of a goofy position in the sport, 992 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: but it's it's enormous, it's huge, and we see it 993 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: every week in this league. These guys are winning and 994 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: losing games. So I guess, well, I'll go with the kickers. 995 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: Joe closes out Buddy Bottom of the wide receiver group. 996 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: Do they keep five or do they keep six? Uh, 997 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 1: conventional wisdom would say six, but um, you know that 998 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: that bottom is that Bottom is an interesting group. I 999 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 1: think kJ Hill is in a little bit of a battle, 1000 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: you know, Jason Moore, Tyron Johnson. How much do they 1001 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: how much do they play? Can they separate themselves? And 1002 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: I think the second thing to look for to and 1003 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: we need Robert Stack on this from Unsolved Mysteries, do 1004 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: we see Jerry Tillery actually play on Saturday? You know, 1005 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: Staley is brought up Michael Davis is playing because he 1006 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have that many snaps in the NFL. Neither does 1007 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: Jerry Tillory. And Jerry had six penalties last year that 1008 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: ended up leading to opposing points. So do you really 1009 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: want him out there week one? You know, in a 1010 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: situation and stuff that you know, penalties and penalties and 1011 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 1: everything and offensive lines, and you know, Fitz has gotten 1012 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 1: into more than a few heads too, trash talking, and 1013 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: Jerry doesn't seem to take trash talking well either. So 1014 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: does Jerry get in for a series or two? Bunny? 1015 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you too as we get out 1016 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: of here, the fact that it's three preseason games. We've 1017 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: never had this before. It's the balance of all right, 1018 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: do you want that last Sunday game to be the 1019 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,399 Speaker 1: last time a lot of your rookies play before Week one? 1020 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: Or some of these guys who are you know, key backups? 1021 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: What do you think the approach is gonna be for 1022 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: some of these rookies and maybe guys who may get 1023 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: meaningful snaps on special teams and you know, maybe spot 1024 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 1: duty on offensive defense come Week one? Yeah? I mean 1025 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: to me, this is this is roster building, you know, 1026 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: that's what this game is. And just kind of speaking 1027 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: to what Joe had just mentioned, you know, I think 1028 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: there's a potential where they take keep six defensive linemen, 1029 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, and i'd love to see Tillery out there 1030 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: with Broughton, you know, with Thejko with Merrill, so I 1031 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: can more properly evaluate if I want to carry an 1032 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: extra one of those guys and maybe, like you were talking, 1033 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 1: and Joe lose, you know, do I drop a wide receiver, 1034 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: not bring back Hill or Read and end up keeping 1035 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: both Fojoko and Broughton, you know, because I just kind 1036 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: of like the talent there and knowing how much I 1037 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: want to rotate those guys and keep them fresh and 1038 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: just body after body. Like, to me, that's what I'll 1039 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: be looking at. I think it's a ton of cornerback play, 1040 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, is it because they're just so different, you know, Campbell, 1041 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: Hall and Bannon, They're just kind of different styles of corners. 1042 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,720 Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see how they rotate those guys 1043 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: whom they play them opposite of so and you know, 1044 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 1: and I think those edge guys, you know, I wouldn't 1045 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: be surprised if he's healthy to see a lot of 1046 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,439 Speaker 1: egg Balat. I just think it's those, you know, those 1047 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: bubble roster players that we're probably going to see a 1048 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,240 Speaker 1: lot of, and I would like to see them next 1049 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: to starters, you know, knowing that, hey, here's some attention 1050 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: paid to these guys. Let's see if you can do 1051 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 1: well with the one on ones and the you know, 1052 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: the the opportunities that are presented to you. We're getting closer, gentlemen, 1053 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: to week one one more on Saturday, though, before where 1054 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 1: it starts to get real. Appreciate your time, Matt money Smith. 1055 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: By the way, me and me and Money got some 1056 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: things cooking for Chargers Weekly that we're gonna be announced soon. 1057 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it, very excited. Jeff Miller, La Times, 1058 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: Joe Ready Associator Press. You guys can be a big 1059 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: part of this throughout the season. I really appreciate your 1060 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: time as always. All right, guys, that's gonna do it 1061 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: for us. A big thanks to our mega roundtable Matt 1062 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: money Smith, Jeff Miller, Joe Ready, Daniel Popper, Gilbramanzano, and 1063 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 1: Fernando Ramirez. 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