1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death presents External Exams with Nicole and Jimmy. 2 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: Over the past few weeks on Mother Knows Death, Maria 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: and I have talked about a variety of news stories 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: that involve the GI system and in particular the newest 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: fad of weight loss with drugs like ozembic, and on 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: today's External Exam, I thought it would be perfect if 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: we spoke with a GI specialist, So I'd like to 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: welcome doctor Partha Nandy. Hi, It's an honor to have 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: you here. 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, thanks, Nicole. I like when people say external exam. 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: When my patients say external exam, that only means one thing, 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: so we're not doing that today, but absolutely pleasure. It's 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: a pleasure to join me today. 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. And doctor Nandy is a gastro 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: enterlogist as well as a holistic health practitioner, and he 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: as a host of his own TV show that is 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: called Ask Doctor and Nandie tell us about that a 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: little bit. What's up with your TV show? Yeah? 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: You know what happened was my dad. He was my 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: biggest hero when I was growing up and he got sick. 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: When you know, how long has it been now, it's 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: been about sixteen years ago he got He was very healthy, 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: never never really had any time to was the hospital, 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: but he got a devastating stroke. And what happened then, Nicole, 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: is that I was I thought it was a pretty 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: good doc. I thought I was empathetic. I thought I 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: did a good job. But what I became the patient 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: because of my dad and the advocate, I realized that 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: there's a lot I didn't know. What I mean by 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: that is how to be able to advocate for yourself 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: what it feels like as a patient through our health system, 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: and also how do I how do I as a patient, 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: not as a doctor, to prevent what happened to my dad. So, 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, I thought about how to do it. I 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: had a friend who was a producer in la and 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: he he talked to me and said, you know, some 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: of the things you talked to me about, doctor Dady, 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: we could we could do television. So it certained a 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: television show that basically talks about empowering you know, to 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: yourself to be a healthier which is your own advocate 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: for yourself and your family. And that's what began, and 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: we started in one television station in Detroit. That's where 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm from and then now you know we're syndicated throughout 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: the country in the world. It's because when I have 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: a simple message, is that make your health and wellness 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: your parody, which is a lot what you're doing. So 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of my that's our mission, our you know, 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: our north star. And then we called the folks that 49 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: believe in that health herold. We think everybody should be 50 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: a health hero. 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: So when you went to medical school, you became you 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: specialized in GI. Is that have you done that since 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: you graduated medical school and did a residency in GI 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: you've been doing that this whole time? 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happens is you do medical four years 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: and you do residents you for three years in internal medicines. 57 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: You become a specialized specialist in everything, right, which is 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: internal medicine. And that's helpful for my show because I 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: talk about everything. And so once you finish internal medicine, 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: then you do three more years of being a sub specialist, 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: which is a gastronogist. So that means diseases of the testine, 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: the liver, the pancreas, the colon, the digestive issues. S. 63 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I liked it because you know, you get to talk 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: to people and then be an expert. But you also 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: get to do some procedures where you look inside the 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: stomach with today, we had a patient that was bleeding. 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: I was able to put a clip stop the bleeding. 68 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I think that's cool because you have a patient that's sick, 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: you do something and they get better. That part of it. 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: I like. I almost like counseling them for prevention. So 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: that's why I like gastrorology. 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: I get that GIG system is probably my favorite system too. 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: I just I feel like I like it the most 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: when I'm doing an autopsy or something, so I understand 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: why you like it. So, seeing how long have you 76 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: been a GI doctor for about decades? 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: A couple of decades. 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so over the years you've probably seen since 79 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: you deal with the GI system, you've probably seen some 80 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: changes in weight loss trends. I would say, and I 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: know some of this because I worked in surgical pathology 82 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: for like twenty years, so I would say maybe ten 83 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: years ago, like all the rage was sleeve gas jrectomy 84 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: every day, getting multiple sleeve gas diractomies, and now it 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: seems to be all the rage is like these weight 86 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: loss drugs like ozempic, right, and now we have we 87 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: have all these celebrities that have been losing weight over 88 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: the past couple of years and now over the past 89 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: couple of months, people like Oprah, Sharon Osbourne. They're all 90 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: coming out and saying like, yeah, I use ozempic. So 91 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: now it's that's the drug of choice right now. And 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: can you explain to us exactly like what oze is 93 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: and how does it help a person lose weight? 94 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right, And to me, it's a revolution 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: It's like it's a revolutionary drug because it's it's working 96 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: in a way that people understand it. And you know, 97 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: when people did gastric surgeries like the sleep gastrectomies like 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about. There are multiple ways for people who 99 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: are listening watching is that you know how you can 100 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: you can have weight loss. One of them is kind 101 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: of part of the stomachs. You can't eat and you 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: reroute it so you physically are not able to absorb 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: nutrients and not eat. You can't eat enough and so 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: you physically restrict it. This drug like you talked about 105 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: a zempic and it's analogue with govy. Remember zempic is 106 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: indicated for diabetes, right, and for people with diabetics. Its 107 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: analogue with gov is indicated for for weight loss, but 108 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: people use it interchangeably. So let's talk about just so zembic. 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: It's there's a class. It's a class of medication called 110 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: semi glue tide, and what it does is it kind 111 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: of mimics it. It pretends like it's a it's a 112 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: hormone that naturally occurs the body. And what that does 113 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: is when that hormone kind of goes up, it goes 114 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: to your brain and then the brain says, aha, I'm full. 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: So you're not struggling. You just don't feel like eating, 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: which is magnificent for people who are like, it's always 117 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: hungry and I can't stop it, right, So it does 118 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: that in addition to that, In addition, it slows down 119 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: by digestion by increasing the amount of time it takes 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: for food. So in boxing, it's like a one two 121 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: punch because you're not only not feeling full or not 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: feeling hungry, but you also feel full for a longer 123 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: punt of time. And that's why it's so effective. Like 124 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people, especially when my colleagues are kind 125 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: of like they pukou it. I think, I think it's 126 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: not so bad. I think you've tried everything else and 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: this is the big if. Right. I had a lady Nicole, 128 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: it said, and she was not obese. She said, eh, doctor, nanny, 129 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: can I do it? So it's ten to fifteen pounds. 130 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: And it looked good in my bathing sit like it. 131 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: It's not what this is or that's to me the key. 132 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: You may see Oprah like melting away, or you know 133 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: some other celebrity and you can tell they're like dramatic loss. Wait, 134 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: that's one thing and they're doing it. But if you're 135 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: not obese, first of all, I don't think you should 136 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: do that. But secondly, you should couple it with the 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: things we talk about by being you. On Healthy Ero, 138 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: we talked about five pillers. It's purposeful living. Number two 139 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: is not a diet, but getting the right foods in 140 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: your body. Number three is movement with purpose. You gotta 141 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: move and do things, have community and spirituality. I think 142 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: you got to really have a holistic approach to doing this. 143 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: Let's say you don't do all five, at least move 144 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: and at least have healthy foods. It doesn't mean because 145 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm taking we go over your ozeen bake and now 146 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: I can, you know, have a juicy you know, double cheese, whatever, 147 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: burger concoction, only what I want to eat. So you've 148 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: got to eat better, you gotta eat healthy and move 149 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: along with this. But to me, it's gonna change things 150 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: because I've already seen the demands. I do endoscopy, which 151 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: is basically taking a little skill going into your mouth 152 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: and neuroesophagus and stomach. I do that preoperatively, meaning that 153 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: I tell the surgeons, hey, this patient can is okay 154 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: to have a gastric bypass. Certainty that demand nicoll is 155 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: way down already, not to mention what's gonna happen in 156 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: the future as we get more and more in these drugs. 157 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: So to me, the grain area is, hey, what's gonna 158 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: happen long term? We're talking about a couple of months, 159 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: three months, four months, five months, maybe even a year, 160 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: But what happens five years down the road, you know, 161 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: when you've taken this drugs, So I'd like to know 162 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: what the long term side effects now. But I think 163 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: it's another tool in our armamentarium to be able to 164 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: fight obesity, which to me is the biggest epidemic in 165 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: the planet. 166 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I would say that a 167 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: majority of the autopsies that I do, the patient has obesity, 168 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: and younger people that are that are, you know, this 169 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: prime age of women that I was seeing, especially between 170 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: like fifty and sixty years old, way too young to die, 171 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: but all obese and just I think it's really important 172 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: that no matter how you lose it, you lose it 173 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: because of the comorbidities associated with obesity. But it's funny 174 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: that you mentioned that about the short term weight loss 175 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: for people that like me, like I'm trying to lose 176 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: like five or ten pounds, just oh, just take this medication. 177 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: We had a story in the news actually of a 178 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: woman that was given ozempic because she was trying to 179 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: lose weight for her daughter's wedding to fit into the dress. 180 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: So we're talking what ten to fifteen pounds max. And 181 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: she ended up having a bowel obstruction and dying because 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: of it. And so what are some of the negative 183 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: effects that you see with this type of drug. 184 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's slowing down the intestinal motility. The movie of 185 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: the of the food right, that's going through So people 186 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: who already have problems with movement through your intestine can 187 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: cause problems. You mentioned. You know, it's not common, it's rare. 188 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: You could have problems with obstruction, which is a blockage 189 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean intestine. Let's say if you have a little 190 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: bit of an area and then you slow things down 191 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: even more, potentially you can you can make that worse. 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: You can have problems with gall bladder problems. You could 193 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: have problems with pagre titis. There's rare problems with infections. 194 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of you know, other side effects you 195 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: can have, but the main ones are dealing with your 196 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: food and your stomach not moving through, so you can 197 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: have nausea, blow ding, abdominal discomforts. If you have any 198 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: of those issues, don't forget to mention your doctor. People 199 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: are so desperate to get this they don't They don't 200 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: want to tell them anything about what's going on. Even 201 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: if they know that there's possibility of this happening, they 202 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: don't tell their doctor or their healthcare provider. It's important 203 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: you let people know the street. If you have any 204 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: yaspintestol issues, let your doctor figure that out. Any GI issues. 205 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: What I mean is a nauseously the um bloating, you 206 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: have discomfort, let them know, because this could make it worse. 207 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: In some cases, it can make it significantly worse, leading 208 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: to hospitalization. So again, it's not to be taken lightly. 209 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: It's not just why eject myself and I'm gonna look great. 210 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: It's more than that. And again again I'll say it 211 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: has to be coupled with diet and having good food 212 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: choices and exercise. 213 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: Do you think that doctors that are prescribing this are 214 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: giving that message because I personally have friends and family 215 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: members that take these medications and they still eat like shit, 216 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: they don't exercise. And one family member very close when 217 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: I won't name her name in particular, had serious issues 218 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: with motility, like almost had to go to the hospital, 219 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: and she doesn't have great eating habits and had some 220 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: kind of an obstruction, severe abdominal pain and up passing it, 221 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: but then had bleeding and the rectum and everything because 222 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: of it. And I don't I don't think that anyone 223 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: ever really said to her, you need to change your 224 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: your ways. So that concerns me. 225 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times, you know, we as 226 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: doctors also want to keep our patients happy. It's easier 227 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: just to write a strip right and have them go 228 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: on their way than taking the time to say, hey, 229 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: this is what's going to happen, because then comes up, oh, 230 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: if so, do you think that I should do this 231 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: or not? You see what I'm saying. It's harder to 232 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: do that. So lots of people say, I think it'll 233 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: be all right, say if your take it, because well, 234 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: you've been to you've been to people like myself. You 235 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time. I mean, you're in 236 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: and out so quickly. And if it's just that you're 237 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: here for the drug that you're looking for for weight 238 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: loss or diabetes management, let's say, then you're you know, 239 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: if you just write the prescription, you're on the way. 240 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: So I think it's our responsibility, and this is for 241 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: anybody who's healthcare professional to really let the patient. No, 242 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: this is not a no brainer. It's like a nothing 243 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: burner or something. It's not like taking it's not like 244 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: taking something that is innocuous, right, It's something that's significant 245 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: in your body that could could potentially harm it. So 246 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I think that people are not saying, hey, you know what, 247 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: you could have your kidneys get damaged. Hey, you could 248 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: have changes in your in your vision or worsening constipation, 249 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, like your pain group will get in played 250 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: because I think that it's just it's just a much 251 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: more involved conversation. And to be honest, some may not 252 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: even know that. Some healthcare defessionals are ready, may not 253 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: even know that there are these complications. So I think 254 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's again be your and health theory. You're 255 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: taking something, get to know yourself. We have resources now, 256 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: get to know these side effects and see, hey, you 257 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: know what. I'll go to my doctor and say I 258 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: have these problems and you know the side effects. Can 259 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: you think that's right for me? It's got to be 260 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: a joint decision of partnership. It's not like I want 261 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: to lose weight to take this all. It's a great 262 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: drag and it can work. It can work, But I 263 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: think that I don't think that it's something that should 264 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: be taken lightly and should be taken with the direction 265 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: of your healthcare provider, and you have to ask them, 266 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: can something bad happen with this? 267 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: I like that you mentioned about the long term side 268 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: effects because obviously this drug hasn't been out too long 269 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: to really know what is going to happen. In fifteen 270 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: twenty years down the line with people that have been 271 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: taking this medication long term. And obviously this medication isn't 272 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: for people to take for the rest of their lives. 273 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a correct I mean, if they're 274 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: not taking it for diabetes management or something. So I 275 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: don't know if you heard this, but recently a huge company, 276 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: weight Watchers, has kind of gotten on the ozempic bandwagon 277 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: and now they offer a subscription that you can get 278 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: ozempic along with their weight loss pro which is good 279 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: because they teach healthy eating habits and stuff. But do 280 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: you feel like our culture is kind of like heavily 281 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: going hard into this ozepic and giving up things like 282 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: the regular way that you used to lose weight with, 283 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: like caloric restriction and exercise. 284 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's you're absolute to me. You as 285 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: a as a person prescribing, have to make it very important. 286 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: Once you get your goal, you have to continue to 287 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: do the other things besides the medication. Otherwise, I mean, 288 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: there are studies right now that show that if you don't, 289 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: if you continue to do what you're doing before these empic, 290 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: you'll you'll gain the weight right back. It's not magical. Right, 291 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: So once you take away the active substances that's making 292 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: your brain feel like you're full and you're slowing down 293 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: the speed of the stomach moving food through, you're going 294 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: to gain the weight back. So it's really important to 295 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: learn those habits while you're taking the drugs. If you 296 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: don't have those habits, so you're absolutely right, and you know, 297 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: it's not meant for them to just keep taking it forever. 298 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: Some people will take it for a longer period of 299 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: time because they may not get the weight loss, but 300 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: it's not meant for people who are trying to have 301 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: weight loss and not having diabetes. It's not forever. But 302 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: again we have to let the patients know. You got 303 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: to you've got to be able to understand the other 304 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: two things that you do just movement, just exercise and 305 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: eating well. And to be eating well, that doesn't mean 306 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: that you know, you eat less. It means that when 307 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: you eat the foods, make sure they're a whole, make 308 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: sure they're nutritious. 309 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: Make sure that they give you the nutrients you need 310 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: and not just just looking at the taste and that's it. 311 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, like you have you know, cheeseburger for examples 312 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: may taste good, but the nutrient value and the toxic 313 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: value TAXX and load is huge. So you've got to 314 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: be able to teach those. We have to be able 315 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: to do that. Patients who come to you for this 316 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: have clearly not learned this, most of them, because otherwise 317 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: they would be asking you for that. So we have 318 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: to be able to teach are our patients that to 319 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: be able to do that, otherwise you're not how successful. 320 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: It's gonna come again and again, or they're gonna be 321 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: in the drug for a very long time. 322 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: This episode is being brought to you today by my book, 323 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: Nicole and Jemmy's Anatomy. If you didn't get what you 324 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: wanted this holiday season, you're gonna want this book. 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I worked 335 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: years ago with a brilliant GI pathologist. She was awesome, 336 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: and she was like very much into this, the new 337 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: research of all this leaky gucks stuff we were talking about. 338 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: And back when she was talking about this, this was 339 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: like fifteen years ago, probably people were kind of thinking 340 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 2: she was a quack for thinking, for believing in this stuff. 341 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: And now all of this research is coming out that 342 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: most people agree that leaky gut is is a thing. 343 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: Could you please explain exactly what that is to our listeners? 344 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's a great question. And so if you 345 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: think about where blood and poop are separated, right, you 346 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: think that it's a huge barrier. It's one cell layer thick. 347 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: So let's say this is a cell. You know, my 348 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: hand on this side is pooh, this side is blood. 349 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: So your GI tractor, testinal tract, the cells have a 350 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: huge job to be able to prove that stuff that's 351 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: in your poop to go in your blood. And when 352 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't do that well, people who are very insightful, 353 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: like your GeOI pathologists that you worked with, called it 354 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: a leaky gut because it's happened. Your gut is leaky. 355 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: Stuff comes true. But now we, like you said, there's 356 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: there are studies that's showing that this works. We have 357 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: a fancy or name for it. It's called intestinal permeability. 358 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: So what happens is that in that one cell layer 359 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: thic you know, barrier between poop and blood, you have 360 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: these things called tight junctions which are like completely sealed 361 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: tight and it's kind of like a very very sophisticated 362 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: group of bouncers that will not let anything in or 363 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: let anything out that doesn't belong. So once those those 364 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: defense mechanisms of your of your intestinal track are not there, 365 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: stuff can get through. And you think, you say, so 366 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: what you know what if stuff gets true, Well, it 367 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: won't be like big chunks of stool. We're not talking 368 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: about that. On the microscope level, you're having little particles 369 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: which are toxins, let's say, from above from a bacteria. 370 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: One of them we know it's called LPs or light 371 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: bulb polysachara. When that goes in the blood stream, here's 372 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: what happened ago, your entire defense system goes, oh my gosh, 373 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: something happened. So you're all of your your immune systems. 374 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: So I call it kind of your almost your entire 375 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: defense of your body. So your white cells come in, 376 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: your natural killer cells, your lymphocide, everything comes through. It 377 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: comes through. If you make the analogy in your in 378 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: the in the country, you have the FBI, the CIA, 379 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: and the army, the Navy. Everybody comes and says there 380 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: is an attack. Something's come through, and it starts attacking 381 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: because it thinks something's there in that reaction. If you 382 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: haven't once in a while, won't matter. But if that 383 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: leak continues and you have more stuff that comes through, 384 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: that's the beginning of inflammation because then these cells continue 385 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: to be activated trying to get rid of whatever this 386 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: toxin that's coming through, and when it continues, it can 387 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: cause inflammation. And inflammation is the beginning of all disease, 388 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: whether it's of the heart, whether it's in the brain 389 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: and long any part of it. That's why to me, 390 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: the gut and you and I, you know, a realness 391 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: is the gun is such an important part of your body. 392 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: Why because it's the center. It's it's it's if you 393 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: can fix the gut, not get leaky gut. Change what's 394 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: called your microbiome, which is the trillions of bugs in 395 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: your intestine system you can help prevent disease. I'm writing 396 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: a book about comparing taking your gut health and optimizing 397 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: it to prevent diseases of the brain like the one 398 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: my dad had, And it's it's startling what you can 399 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: do to your with your gut to be able to 400 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: prevent that. But to answer your question, you know this, 401 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: this leaky gut is such an important idea because if 402 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: you can prevent that and keep your gun healthy, then 403 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: you can you can really conquer so many diseases that 404 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: we that we we suffer with in our country a 405 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: throughout the world. Stuff like heart disease, cancer, autoimmune disease. 406 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: All these are inflammatory conditions that can make things worse. 407 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: And do you think that this inflammation is obviously it's 408 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: like more linked to processed Food's correct in a sense. 409 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: The inflammation is there, but it's inflammation on the side 410 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: of the cell that's going towards the blood and also 411 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: on the side which is in the intestinal cell. And 412 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: it absolutely it will be difficult to process ood if 413 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: you have increased inflammation. But what's even more startling is 414 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: that that inflammation then can then affect the rest of 415 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: the body. And this is where it's exploding Nicole. Every 416 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: single specialty in medicine, every disease state is finding that 417 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: if you your gut held is bad, then your disease 418 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: state of that organ is bad. So let's talk about 419 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: the brain. In Alzheimer's time was got almost if you 420 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: look at hard disease, or people with cornering our disease, 421 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: or people with Crone's disease or rheumatary threaticism, there's a 422 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: change in the way the gut is and the microbiome 423 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: as well. In the processing of foods. You know, when 424 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: you don't have the right environment, your food's processing incorrectly 425 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: and your food doesn't become your friend anymore. And that's 426 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: what we have to prevent it. And there's simple ways 427 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: of doing it. Try not to eat processed foods. It's 428 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: super simple. Try to eat foods that you can see. 429 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Maybe even do the unthinkable. Go into your kitchen and 430 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: actually use it and not use your phone to have 431 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: somebody deliver it, so you can take your rolling chair 432 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: and go to the door, pick up the food, go 433 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: back to your couch and eat it. I mean, when 434 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: you do that, it's so unnatural. For human beings throughout history, 435 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: we'd had to hunt and gather, we had to move around, 436 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: get our own food, real foods. That's what we've been 437 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: looking at for millions of years. Right, all of a sudden, 438 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: in the last fifty you've got everything changed. Right. Food's 439 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: made in the factory and given to you. You heat 440 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: it up in this thing called the microwave or whatever, 441 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: and everything's made in a factory. If we can just 442 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: go back and find foods that your body is used to, 443 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: like whole vegetables and fruits and things that are the 444 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: meats that are not made in little tiny you know, 445 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: coops where artificial growth is happening for meats. I mean, 446 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: if we eat food the way we used to, then 447 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: we'll do well. Why because that's what's brought us here 448 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: for all these years. Now, in the last fifty years, 449 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: everything's changed. So back to your question about about the 450 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: gut and leaky gut, because what the what the microbiome 451 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: and the gut does not like is everything that we eat. 452 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: Let's have a box of cereal because that's shown on 453 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: TV full of processed foods, full of artificial sugars. Or 454 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: let's have a slice of pepperoni, pizza sec an atomic 455 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: weapon against your gut. Bad farms, bad fat preservatives. I mean, 456 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: your gut doesn't know what to do. It's like it's like, oh, 457 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm like and it's shaky, you know, microscopicalleen and so 458 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: that once in a while, I'm not crazy, you know, 459 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: I have kids that birthday parties do. I have a 460 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: slice of beets, absolutely, But when you make that slice 461 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: of pizza or your burger or your fries every single day, 462 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: which a lot of people do, or your TV dinners 463 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: or your process foods every day, then your body can't 464 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: handle it. It goes into overload. Leaky gut happens, you 465 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: have inteslino permeability, the beginning of disease. And is it 466 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: a wonder that I have a thirty five year old 467 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: personal colmb cancer that I'm talking to a twenty nine 468 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: year old saying that, my god, they told me I 469 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: have breast cancer. Like, we're just shocked and bewildered that 470 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: all the stuff is happening. But the crack that we 471 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: put in our bodies, and that's just the food we're 472 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: talking about, not to mention the unbelievable amount of stress 473 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: that we put on ourselves. Right, all those things lead 474 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: toward the healthy gut. But we can make the simple 475 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: practices that you do every day that can reverse that. 476 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: And the quicker you do that, and and the younger 477 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: you are when you do that, the more prolific the 478 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: changes are. 479 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 2: So you have a guide on your website that people 480 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: can can look at that tells you it's kind of 481 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: cool because it's like a quick if you if you 482 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: have to eat processed foods, here's how to make better choices. 483 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, And what. 484 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: We want people to do is be real, right, So 485 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: we'll give you a guide and say, hey, you know what, 486 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: this is toxic, this is not, and so you can 487 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: you can look and choose and see what you can 488 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: do because. 489 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: To us, excuse me, to me and the little people 490 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: that work with me, we want to make it simple. 491 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: If it's complicated, then and it's bad. So this guy 492 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be simple. You can read it. It's written 493 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: in normal language, it's understandable. So yeah, well, we'll be 494 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: happy to give it to your your listeners, reviewers whenever 495 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: if if they choose to have it. 496 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: And you are also sell some supplements on your website, 497 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: and there are mostly vitamins that are what they're really 498 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: good for you, obviously, and with the processed foods and everything, 499 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: we're not getting a lot of those those things. Correct. 500 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's happening is that our soil becaus is devoid. 501 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: We have over you know, farm land put so many 502 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: what are called you know, GMO products and seeds basically 503 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: sucks all nutrients out of the soil. This is an example. 504 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: So let's say you eat a cabbage now versus nineteen 505 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: thirty five, it's completely different. So what was happening in 506 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: my medical career is I would get patients coming with 507 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: these big old bags and say, doctor, that come with 508 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: fifteen supplements. What should I take? What shouldn't I know? 509 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: Said yes, no, yes, no, And I said, you know, 510 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: to our team, I said, you know, why don't we 511 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: create our line so I can curate it and let 512 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: people know. We went to manufacturers and see how they 513 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: actually made it and what their sites look like, and 514 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: that I wanted to not just say here's here's your 515 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: vitamin D, here's your vitamin K, here's the nutrient supplement 516 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: that you can take, but rather isn't nutrient dense. So 517 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: you look at let's say grocery store and you have 518 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: like a vitamin D, it may come in a form 519 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: that's not bioavailable. What that means is you take it 520 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: and it seems like the same number as let's say 521 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: that what we pick, but ours is more bioavailable, so 522 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: more stuff gets in your gud. So we're careful to 523 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: make sure that the manufacturing is appropriate, that the product 524 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: is highly high quality, so that we would take it 525 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: in our family. So and I mean we did that 526 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: because for many, many years I've been curating it, so 527 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: we decided to do it our own. It's it's from 528 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: the Healthy Real Pharmacy, and it's just you know, it's 529 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: my name part and any MB supplement. So yeah, if 530 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: anybody wants to know more about it, I'll get some 531 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: more information for sure. 532 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's good because a lot of times, like 533 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: I just order my vitamins off Amazon, which is probably 534 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: a horrible idea because who even knows who's making them. 535 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: So it's nice to think I could get them from 536 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: a trusted a trusted source. But before we let you go, 537 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: we want to talk about a couple of news stories 538 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: that we that we covered over the past couple of weeks. 539 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: One you'll find these really interesting because they're GI related 540 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: and they all have to do with foreign bodies, which 541 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: is always everyone's favorite subject. There was a woman in 542 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: Spain who said that she was choking on turkey and 543 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: she tried to get the turkey out of her throat 544 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: with a toothbrush, and then she accidentally swallowed the toothbrush 545 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: and they had to do an endoscopy to remove the toothbrush. 546 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: And my first thought, as a as a person that 547 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 2: worked in pathology that's received all of these foreign bodies 548 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: that you guys take out, I was I thought, I 549 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: don't know if that's exactly the story, because I've received 550 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: so many large things like pens, butter knifs from people 551 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: that were boleemic, and I have heard that the gag 552 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: reflex is not what it is when people are inducing 553 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: vomiting so much and they stick larger objects down there 554 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: to make themselves throw up, and that that is what 555 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: I think how the toothbrush got down there. But again, 556 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: I think it's possible she was trying to dislodge something, 557 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: but I think the more likely story is that that's 558 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: how it got there. 559 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: And then you know you're right. We see the wildest 560 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: things people put in there, and I just thought, well, 561 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: just be honest with us. We're not here to judge you. 562 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: You know, people you find things the rectum, they go, oh, 563 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: I was just I just sat on it, and it's 564 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: just like, okay. 565 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: You that did not happen. 566 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: No way a jurbil gets inside of you because you 567 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: sat on it. You know, people put the most amazing 568 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: things of the rectum and their mouth. So people I've 569 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: seen razor blades, I've seen obviously crosses, I've seen every 570 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of device that's put in. And then you know, 571 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: from the other hand, anything that's stimmylates, you know, the rectum, 572 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: they'll they'll put in all kinds of arbitrary devices, the 573 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: things that that you'd be surprised about it. And I 574 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: just I just thought, I'm just be honest, We're not 575 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: here to judge you. And it's the hardest thing is 576 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: taking those out safely because people don't understand that and 577 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: you put it in, you know, to take it out 578 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: without tearing the esophagus, for example, we have to grab 579 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: it and pull it out so slowly because you could 580 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: basically feelay, the esophag is coming up, you know what 581 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean. And so on the rectum. You know, the 582 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: sphincter zone is there and you have to be able 583 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: to retrieve this without damaging the finer done something sharp. 584 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, so it's it's listen, that's why you know 585 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: we trained to do this, but it's it still amazes 586 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: me all the crap that people put their bodies and uh, 587 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: and they have very creative stories and holid cock there 588 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: and the people that come with them to explain. You know, 589 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: I add somebody who's mistressed and try to do something 590 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: with him and and and got stuck inside the rectum 591 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, creative stories that come won't put 592 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: this amazing, but it's just human nature and you know, 593 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: people will continue to be people. 594 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I imagine it's probably the most embarrassing day 595 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: of some person's life if they have to go in 596 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: and say that and everyone knows, everyone knows how it 597 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: got up there that you know, we're not we're not stupid, 598 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: but just wrapping up since it's since it's holiday time 599 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: and we're giving kids presents and stuff. That was another 600 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: big one that we've been covering in the news is 601 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: toys that have been problems. One of them is the 602 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: water beads. I'm sure you have kids, right, so you 603 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: you probably know about these causing obstructions and the magnets. 604 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have a four year olds, so to 605 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: constantly tell them not to put those things anything in 606 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: his mouth. But you know, the the thing is that 607 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: you have to you can't just come on having common 608 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: sense as your little kids. So you're exactly what I 609 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: think that water beads that are going to swell with 610 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: water which is in you're intestine can block you know, 611 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: if you block the intestine, it's more than a small problem. 612 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: It could lead to surgery. So we have to tell 613 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: parents you gotta be You've got to be more responsible 614 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: and keep it out of the reach if you're going 615 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: to have things that are going to give you problems. 616 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: Any any small object you know, is important to keep 617 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: keep out of the way of kids. And it's not 618 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: just this is not just something with the holidays, but 619 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: you know a lot of us like those those detergent pods. 620 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 1: It's one of the most common reasons why kids can 621 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: have toxic reactions in their esophagus and possibly die because 622 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: they swallow it because it's colorful. You were seeing those 623 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: things that look like I mean, you can be fool 624 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: that it looks like candy ors that you put in 625 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: your mouth, and can you imagine that you're you're putting 626 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: detergent in your esophagus. It's one of the most horrific 627 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: things I've seen that, So I beg parents do it. 628 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: Don't put in the lower shop, but as high as 629 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: possible so kids can't reach them. Give them the fear 630 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: of God that this is horrible for you. So we've 631 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: got to really educate our parents, and we as healthcare providers, 632 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, and you're doing a great shop in disseminating 633 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: this kind of information. You won't think of it, but 634 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: only it just takes one time to make a mistake 635 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: and your kid's dead. 636 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's so terrible. 637 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: Anything about it. I mean, you literally watched this thing 638 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: does like rip off your soft figures and obliterate it. 639 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: It's it's it's horrific. Yeah. 640 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: And then even if they survive, like, what kind of 641 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: quality of life do you have with all those surgeries 642 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: that you have to repair it. 643 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: It's just getty. 644 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: I can't imagine going through that as a parent. It 645 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: must be terrible. Well, thank you so much for your 646 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: time today. Do you. What are you working on any 647 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: new projects you know talk about? 648 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at my book and the book is 649 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: basically talking about healing your gut, fixing your mind. So 650 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm almost ready to send it over a publisher. So 651 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: it'll be coming out very soon. And we're working on 652 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: a probout it that will help us to be able 653 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: to connect the the mine. So I'll be coming out 654 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: with that and we'll be on our website. 655 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: Oh awesome, that that sounds great. I'm actually really looking 656 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: forward to that. I I didn't tell you this when 657 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: you were talking about it, but I just recently had 658 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: an experience with that because I stopped eating gluten like 659 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: a couple years ago now because I was having such 660 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: excruciating migraines and none of the medications they were giving 661 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: me were working. So I finally just decided to stop 662 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: eating gluten and it healed me basically. And for some reason, 663 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: I decided a couple months ago that I was going 664 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: to officially get tested to see if I had siliac. 665 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 2: So I was going to eat gluten for two weeks 666 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 2: so I could get my endoscopy done. And not only 667 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: did I put myself through hell, but my family too. 668 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: And it's interesting that you're saying that because I had obviously, 669 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: like I went down the line of all the things 670 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: I haven't been able to eat for the past couple 671 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 2: of years, Like, Okay, I'm going to have a McDonald 672 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: Tamberger this day, and I'm gonna have a Dunkin Donuts 673 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 2: this day. I went, you know, and I felt fine. 674 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: I ate it, and I said, oh cool, I'm fine, 675 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: Like maybe I could eat gluten again. And then just 676 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: having it. I only had one serving of it every day, 677 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 2: but within a couple of days, I was so sick 678 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: it was nuts. So I'm back on my gluten free 679 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: diet and I'm very happy. But it's a real thing. 680 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: It's a real thing, trust me. Like, so, thanks for 681 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: being with us today. And that was really great information. 682 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: And I loved how you talked about the layer between 683 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: the poop and the blood. It really it makes a 684 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: lot of sense, and I hope people get a lot 685 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: from that. Thank you. 686 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Hopefully we can 687 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: talking in. 688 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to mother nos death. As a reminder, 689 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: my training is as a pathologist assistant. I have a 690 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education. 691 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed 692 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of 693 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 2: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social 694 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based 695 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make 696 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 2: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember 697 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed 698 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those 699 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 2: subjects at the time of publication. If you are having 700 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a 701 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 2: medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit an urgent 702 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: care center, emergency room, or hospital. 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