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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to step mom? Never told you?

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Speaker 1: From house to works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Molly. I'm Kristin. Kristin. You want to hear

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Speaker 1: some movie news? Sure? Um, I was reading the internets yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and um, I saw some movie news involving two of

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Speaker 1: our our favorites. I think if I can be so

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Speaker 1: bold as to say these people are your favorites to

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Speaker 1: Tina Fee and Steve Carrell, they've got a movie coming

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Speaker 1: out in April called Date Night, but they might work

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Speaker 1: together again, because right now they're working on this thing

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Speaker 1: called Mail Order Groom, and it's gonna feature you know what,

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Speaker 1: sound too happy about it, and I just keep going.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna feature Tina Faye as a woman who's unlucky

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Speaker 1: in love, so unlucky that she orders a groom from

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Speaker 1: the Ukraine to be played by Steve Carrell and Hilaria

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Speaker 1: You will hopefully ensue. Hopefully in sue. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but let's I think that you always find humor in

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Speaker 1: income in uh situations that already exist. And so then

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Speaker 1: I tried to see if I could mail order a room. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get no one come in. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: any options. I couldn't find I couldn't really find good site.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't mail order a groom in this day and age.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't find any that I wanted. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: I didn't maybe I wasn't searching far and wide enough.

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Speaker 1: But I googled. I saw my results and I was like,

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Speaker 1: But then I was like, well, mail order brides are

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Speaker 1: they still a thing? And they are and they are

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Speaker 1: big time there are. This is going to an article

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Speaker 1: to be found UM two thousand six article in Harper's.

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Speaker 1: It is estimated that well over a hundred thousand women

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Speaker 1: across the world are listed on the Internet as available

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Speaker 1: for marriage to Western men. So it's not really you know,

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Speaker 1: like the mail we think of mail order brides. You

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Speaker 1: know the old West, old plane, the airplane and tall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: farmers would have to write off for a wife. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get to get a wife shipped in from from the West.

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Speaker 1: But now with the magic of the interweb, uh, it

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Speaker 1: is mail d brides are robust business. It's the boom

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Speaker 1: the reverse now. Now it's more women who lack resources

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Speaker 1: hoping to come to men who already have them. So

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Speaker 1: there's a different sort of um money dynamic that plays

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Speaker 1: online dating where you know, you can just like meet

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Speaker 1: there's some fees to go along with this. Like for

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Speaker 1: this Harper's article, the author sort of did a mail

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Speaker 1: order embedded mission and he paid four thousand dollars to

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Speaker 1: a company called a Foreign Affair that basically took a

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Speaker 1: Who would have all these women come to these social

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Speaker 1: events kind of like it reminded me of millionaire Matchmaker

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Speaker 1: on Bravo on steroids, Yeah, because you would be like

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Speaker 1: five guys and then two women would come in hordes

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Speaker 1: is kind of hard to divorce yourself from a little

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Speaker 1: Southeast Asia, and then in the ninth mid nineties there

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Speaker 1: this is in response to our episode on do kids

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Speaker 1: good job all by yourself. So to make a point,

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Speaker 1: I believe that any kid will be raised correctly, whether

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