1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,399 Speaker 1: I get everybody on dan Board and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast The Rocky Mountain. We addition as 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals head to Colorado for a Monday Night matchup 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos. This week's game is on ESPN 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: and I'll talk to the voice of Monday Night Football, 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Joe Buck. My one on one player interview is with 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Jake Browning as we discuss the challenging life of a 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. And in our nother faux segment, we'll get 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the inside scoop on the one in two Broncos from 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: beat writer Nick Cosmider. 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It's the greatest thing since Rudy Johnson, 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: the former Bengals running back, passed away this week at 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: the age of forty five. I was working in local 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: TV when Rudy played for Cincinnati, and I think you 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: can make a strong case that he is the most 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: underrated player in team history prior to this week. If 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: you asked one hundred Bengals fans who holds the team 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: record for rushing yards in a season, I think the 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: overwhelming majority would have said Corey Dillon. And if they 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: were told that was incorrect, and I guess again, I 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: suspect their next choice would have been Joe Mixon or 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: James Brooks. The correct answer, of course, is Rudy Johnson, 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: who set the team record with four hundred and fifty 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: eight rushing yards in two thousand and five. That was 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: four yards more than the team record he had set 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: one year earlier, so Rudy actually has the top two 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: spots in the record book. He also holds the team 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: record for carries in a game with a mind boggling 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: forty three. That's tied for second most in NFL history, 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: behind Washington's Jamie Morris, who ran the ball forty five 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: times in a loss to the Bengals in nineteen ninety eight. 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: In the words of team president Mike Brown, quote, Rudy 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: was a fine person and an excellent running back. He 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: was dependable and productive as a player, and very popular 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: among his teammates. Everyone liked him and saw him as 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: a dear friend. We are deeply saddened by his passing. Now, 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: let's get to my first guest. Who will be in 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the National TV booth on Monday night in Denver. It's 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals and Broncos on Monday Night Football. And it 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: is great to catch up with a guy I first 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: met when we were broadcasting minor league baseball games many 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: many years ago. ESPN's Joe Buck. Joe, you were behind 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: the mic two years ago for Jake Browning's second NFL start. 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: I call it the Jake Browning Game. He completed more 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: than eighty six percent of his passes in an upset 54 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: win in Jacksonville. What do you remember about that night? 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's like the Michael Jordan game, the 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: Flu game. It just gets a new name. Troy and I, 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. Halfway through that thing, we're like, damn, 58 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: this guy's good. Like he looked fantastic, and there have 59 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: been It wasn't just that. I mean there have been 60 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: other games and other moments. I know, you guys are 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: coming off a bad one at Minnesota, but you're two 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: and one and you want to flush it. But yeah, 63 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: I think there's a very basic scale that you can 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: judge these guys on, and it comes down to can 65 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: they play or can they not play? And I think 66 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: we both walked out of the booth that night like 67 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: this guy can play. He's got something to him. There's 68 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: something different about him than the typical guy coming in 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: who's basically been standing there holding the clipboard and who 70 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure probably hopes is not going to come in. 71 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: I felt like he was confident. He looked like the 72 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: team was his. I think that's another scale too, It's like, 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: does it look like the guys around him are excited 74 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: to play with and for him? And I think the 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: answer was a resounding yes in that game. And I'm 76 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: fully expecting he and they to come out and look 77 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot different than they did in Minneapolis when we 78 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: all get to Denver. 79 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: It was a rough game last week. Did it change 80 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: your view of the Bengals at all? 81 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: The current Bengals the Bengals as they are now. 82 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: No, I. 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: Think this is a team that can definitely hang in there. 84 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 2: They can not only survive punches, but deliver them. Troy 85 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 2: and I are both and I don't want to speak 86 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: for him, but I know he would say the same 87 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: if he were on here and I wasn't. He and 88 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: I are both big Zach Taylor fans. We had you 89 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: guys in the preseason that game against the Commanders, and 90 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: both when Zach hung up on our zoom call, we're 91 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: both like, you know, we've talked to him a bunch 92 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: of times, but we had a blast with him. You 93 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: can tell he's so smart, he's aware of every facet 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: of that team, and we both hung up going. We 95 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: really liked that guy, and so it's easy to root 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: for somebody like Zach. The biggest fan of Joe Burrows 97 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: in media is Troy because I think, even though he 98 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: may or may not admit it, I think Joe reminds 99 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: Troy of Troy and the way he played the position 100 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: and the kind of you know, take no prisoners gunslinger confident. 101 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: I feel that, and so every time we do a 102 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: game when Joe's in it and I'm like, there he is, Troy, 103 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: there's your favorite player. And and you know, every time 104 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: we hang up with Joe Burrow, it's like, well, Joe, 105 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: you know, we're big fans of yours. That's kind of 106 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: how we end every conference caller zoom call with with 107 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. So yeah, I feel like there's the shell 108 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: there and within that, within that casing, there's room there 109 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: for Jake Browning to do some good things. There's obviously 110 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: a ton of talent around him, and this team can 111 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: win with Jake Browning and hopefully, you know, I'm not 112 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: telling you anything you don't hope for every night before 113 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: the end of the year Joe Burrow comes back. 114 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Are you and Troy flabbergasted by just how rotten Joe 115 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: Burrow's injury luck has been. 116 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: It's just a as a football fan. For you don't 117 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: have to be a Bengals fan or Joe Burrow fan. 118 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: As a football fan, it's got a crush you. I mean, 119 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: I can't imagine what it's like for Bengals fans. I 120 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: can't imagine what it's like for people who have Joe 121 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: Burrow on their fantasy team. But beyond that, I just 122 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: think he makes the league better. He makes the league 123 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: more interesting. Everybody they play, It's like, Okay, Joe Burrow's 124 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: on TV tonight or today, I want to watch that game. 125 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: Because you don't have to be Troy Aikman. You know, 126 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: you can be just a casual fan and go, Okay, 127 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: that guy looks different. He's tough, and by the way, 128 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: that should never be in question. These these are legitimate, 129 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: big time injuries. He doesn't complain about injuries. I don't 130 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: feel like he ever gives himself kind of that built 131 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: in excuse. And you and I both met many athletes 132 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: in the sports that we've covered that kind of always 133 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: have that in the back, like, ah, I'm not really 134 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: feeling that good. I'm you know, in the case of Burrow, 135 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: the wrist is he never does He never does that. 136 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: It's it's I'm good enough, I'm ready to go play. 137 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: So there's never a question of any of that stuff. 138 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the casual fan has to be 139 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: mildly heartbroken that Joe Burrow is not on the field 140 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: on Monday night or any Sunday or any Thursday. 141 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Joe, you noted it. The Bengals are still two and one. 142 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: They're tied for first in the AFC North. What are 143 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: some of the things you think they'll need to do 144 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: to stay in the hunt until Joe hopefully returns sometime 145 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: in December. 146 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously, and then don't fumble five times 147 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: and lose three and throw two interceptions and pick sixes 148 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: and fumble's return for touch. Don't do any of that. 149 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: That would be a good place to start. But I 150 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: think find a running game. I mean, the running game 151 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: has been frustrating to this point. Chase Brown is a 152 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: really talented running back. We left that preseason game I 153 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: kind of I drafted on my fantasy team TAJ and 154 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: kind of stashed him on the bench, thinking, you know, 155 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: maybe by the end of the year, this guy between 156 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 2: the tackles is going to be somebody that I may 157 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: want to start. Jury's out on that, But I think 158 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: the ground game and figuring out a way to open 159 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: up some holes. I don't care if you're Joe Burrow, 160 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: Joe Montana, Joe Namath or name him. If you can't 161 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: run the ball, good luck. And we just did the 162 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: game on Monday night with Jared Goff and with Lamar Jackson. 163 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: I mean, yes, those are two dynamic quarterbacks. But Lamar's 164 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: got Derrick Henry, it can run it himself. And Jared 165 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: Goff's got the best combination in the backfield easily in 166 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: the NFL with his two running backs, and that's why 167 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: he's so good off play action. So you know, if 168 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: you want safeties and linebackers to bite and come up 169 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: and leave room behind him so that there's room for 170 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: the great Jamar Chase and T Higgins and Mike Kasicki 171 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: and everybody else to get behind him, and Browning or 172 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: anybody else to find him find a running game and 173 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: that can be the cure to what ails you. 174 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: Jill. Let's talk about this week's opponent, the Denver Broncos. 175 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: They're one and two, but they've had the lead in 176 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in all three games. They lost the 177 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: last two on walkoff field goals. How do you viewed 178 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Denver and some of their strengths heading into this game 179 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. 180 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: Well, everybody there, I mean, if you read the clips, 181 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: and I read them every day, the Denver Broncos, according 182 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,239 Speaker 2: to their sports writers, are the worst team ever assembled. 183 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: So their defense is very good. They've got an outstanding 184 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: pass rush, they've got the reigning defensive Player of the 185 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: Year in Patzertan, you know, as close to a shutdown 186 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: corner as you can get in the NFL. But offensively Bononix, 187 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: they're calling a sophomore slump now. They're talking about his footwork, 188 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: and he's got happy feed and you know, on and 189 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: on and on. I think we all over and me included, 190 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: we all over act to three weeks of an NFL season. 191 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: I think a lot can change between now and the 192 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: end of the year. And I believe Denver's a good team. 193 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: I believe they've got a really good head coach. I 194 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: believe they've got a good young quarterback. He's getting picked 195 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: on right now in the Denver media. He missed him 196 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: open throws last week and that's going to happen. And 197 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: he's still growing and learning. He's in great hands. They're 198 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: running games a little bit better than Cincinnati's to this point. 199 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: They've got Courtland Sutton, who's a number one receiver. They've 200 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: got some good twos and threes behind him. There's a 201 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: lot to like, but that's not a team that's playing 202 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: well either. And like you said, they're one and two. 203 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: You can make an easy case they should be three 204 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: and zero. They could be oning three. I mean, they 205 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: have not dominated anybody or been dominated by anybody yet, 206 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: so I think it's a good matchup. I think it's 207 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: a pretty evenly split matchup as far as I'm concerned 208 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: going into the game. But they've got a lot of talent. 209 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: They've got a coach that'll figure out ways to beat 210 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati defense. That's what he does. Sean Payton sits 211 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: up at night figuring out ways to beat defenses, and 212 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be doing it for Monday night, so 213 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. 214 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: Joe, what's your Sunday routine? Do you watch the best 215 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: game of the day? Do you go red zone? Do 216 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: you watch the team that you're going to have the 217 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: next week? What do you do on a typical Sunday. 218 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna make every football fan sick, but we kind 219 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: of create our own little sports bar without the alcohol. 220 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 2: We sit in a conference room in our hotel. We 221 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: have multiple TVs that get trucked in and these poor 222 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: people that have to put them together and set them 223 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: up every week. I watch him at the end of 224 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: our Monday morning meeting, just lugging all this junk down 225 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: back into the lobby and out of the door. But yeah, 226 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: we for lack of a better better way to describe it, 227 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: it's our own red zone. We've got, you know, two 228 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: big monitors. There's four boxes on each and we can 229 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: kind of zoom in on a game we want to watch. 230 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: We don't have handsome yelling at us, but we've got 231 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of people in there. You know, if something catches, 232 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm in there looking at my board. I'm doing my work, 233 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: I'm putting stuff on my board, I'm getting ready for 234 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: the game. And it's like look up, kind of survey it, 235 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: look down, do it will work? Look up? And then 236 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: when something happens, it's just good for everybody to be 237 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: together and to watch it all together to talk about it. 238 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: It just takes a little bit of the guess work 239 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: on what we're going to talk about with regard to 240 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: the rest of the league when Monday night comes, because 241 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: we're all there together watching it, and I kind of 242 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: know where Troy's head is on Dallas or Green Bay 243 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: or you know, right on down the line, and he 244 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: knows where mine is. And you know, if I've got 245 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: a question something crosses my mind, or I'm doing my work, 246 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: and it's you know, when's the last time player X 247 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: did this. I've got two stat guys or research people 248 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: sitting there and I can just say it out loud. 249 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: The answer comes magically to me. It's a pretty darn 250 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: good setup. 251 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: That does sound pretty good. Last thing for Joe Buck, 252 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: You and Troy have had a great partnership for years 253 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: and years, but it just sounds like you're having such 254 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: a ball on ESPN. Is it the primetime game? Is 255 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: that the standalone game? Is there something about Monday that's 256 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: just brought out the best and YouTube guys together? 257 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: You know, I think, without going into it too much 258 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: because it's boring for everybody else, but when Fox had 259 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: the Thursday game and the Sunday games, and we were 260 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: doing Thursday Sunday, then Sunday than Thursday Sunday, so I 261 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: think it forced us to be a little bit more 262 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: run and gone and not so zeroed in on every 263 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: detail of every game, which makes you pull back and 264 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: have a bigger view of everything, which I think leads 265 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: to more room for personality and fun. And I think 266 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: then we tap into what we've built over two twenty 267 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: four years, which is, you know, a good relationship a 268 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: lot of respect. Knowing where the other person's coming from. 269 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: I know what's gonna make him laugh. He knows what's 270 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: gonna make me laugh. And if I can get him 271 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: to laugh, he's a very intense dude. If I can 272 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: get him to laugh during the course of the broadcast, 273 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: I think it makes for a better listen. I think 274 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: it makes him loosen up and we're in a better spot. 275 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think. I think what happened during those 276 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: years we did it for four years, maybe change the 277 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: way we prepare and then I think ultimately change the 278 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: way we interact when we're on TV. 279 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Joe, this has been great. Look forward to seeing you 280 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: in Denver, and thanks so much for joining us on 281 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: this segment. 282 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: All right, buddy, get to see it. 283 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: In the last two times the Bengals played on Monday 284 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: Night Football with a backup quarterback starting the game, they won, 285 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: there was the Jake Browning game in Jacksonville that I 286 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: discussed with Joe Buck And if you go back to 287 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, the two ten and one Bengals beat the 288 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: eleven and two Pittsburgh Steelers twenty seven to seventeen with 289 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Finley at quarterback. The Bengals were a double digit 290 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: underdog in both of those games. They are a seven 291 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: and a half point underdog this week in Denver as 292 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Jake Browning makes his ninth NFL start. I sat down 293 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: with the bengals twenty nine year old QB for an 294 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: in depth conversation this week. Jake, I got a chuckle 295 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: last week when you were talking about your seven starts 296 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and you use the term delusional confidence. 297 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that's actually a scientifically based thing, which 298 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: means a level of self confidence despite evidence. Did you 299 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: have to have delusional confidence to have the success you 300 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: had two years ago? Uh? 301 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I don't mean maybe not scientifically delusional, 302 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: but uh you know, I'd never really played before and 303 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: started a game in like olmost five years, and you know, 304 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: I think I was probably the first person to come 305 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: off four years on Peace Squad to start some games. 306 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: And you know, I think step one to winning the 307 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: game on game days, going into it, feel confident that 308 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: you're going to perform well. And so you know, when 309 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 3: I say delusional, it's probably from outside perspective. But you know, 310 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: I know I'm a good player. I've shown that up 311 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: for a long time in practice and training camps and 312 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: stuff like that, and so, you know, I think from 313 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: the outside looking in, it might be delusionable for myself, 314 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: like it's it's rooted in fact that you know, I've 315 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: put some really good football. I just that was kind 316 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: of my first chance to actually play. 317 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: You've got a Monday night game coming up this week. 318 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: Your second NFL start with a Monday night game in Jacksonville. 319 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: I call it the Jake Browning Game. You completed more 320 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: than eighty six percent of your passes in an overtime 321 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: victory over the Jags. Did that game help you have 322 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: real confidence at the NFL level? 323 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I mean I think my first start are 324 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: getting even thrown in against the Ravens, I know it 325 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: was kind of garbage time, but felt like operated well. 326 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: And then the first start, you know, just the chaos 327 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: of the week and all that, and then kind of 328 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: having that under my belt and knowing you know what 329 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: to expect and stuff like that just throughout the week 330 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: and you know those feelings on game day that you 331 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: kind of have to go through to prepare yourself for 332 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: the game. And yeah, I think anytime you actually put 333 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: it on tape. You know, it's something to fall back on, like, hey, 334 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 3: I am capable of doing this, and you never really 335 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: know until you know. 336 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: We're visiting with Jake Browning, You and Joe Burrow good friends, 337 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: you spend a ton of time together. Are you just 338 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: flabbergasted by his rotten luck when it comes to injuries? 339 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's super unfortunate, you know, as far 340 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: as outside of that, you know, it's just it's unfortunate. 341 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: There's not really any other way to put it. 342 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: What you say to him, what could you say to him? 343 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 4: Sucks? 344 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't. 345 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I think one of the the reason we 346 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: get along is, you know, I kind of know when 347 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: he wants to be left alone, and I think, you know, 348 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: something like that happens and you're in a high profile position, 349 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: like think he knows, like I'm there for my favorite 350 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: needs anything. But you know, I'm not going to blow 351 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: him up trying to make sure that he knows that. 352 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 3: You know, I said, hope you're feeling better and stuff 353 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: like that's like, hey, did anything, let me know, but like, 354 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: good luck with everything. And you know, I think he's 355 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: got obviously a ton of support. But when it comes 356 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: to the football side of things. That's kind of where 357 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: I fall in. We're visiting with Jake Browning. I want 358 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: to go back to your crazy high school career for 359 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: a moment. You still hold the national record for most 360 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: touchdown passes by a high school quarterback. I got to 361 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: know your tight end Josiadaguara when he was at the 362 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati. He told me once that you didn't 363 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: really have running plays on your high school team. 364 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: It was like sometimes you'd scramble or you know, maybe 365 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: fourth and inches you'd run, but other than that, you 366 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: were basically passing every play. 367 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: Was that the case we did actually run the ball, 368 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: you know, like five sweeps and stuff like that a 369 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: decent amount. And yeah, I mean we were just think 370 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: my hometown that by the time you hit high school, 371 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: you know, like the junior program's really good. We're running 372 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: the high school's offense. And you know, my senior year, 373 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: I graduated with probably like at least eight guys that 374 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: I played with since I was eight years old, and 375 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: we'd all been playing together for a long time. So 376 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: you know, I think he gets so many reps and 377 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: then you know, you look at our coach and hit 378 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 3: no business being in high school. We were so much 379 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: better coach than everybody, it was ridiculous, and just geared 380 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: everything around hitting that ten thousand hours, and I think 381 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: we reaped the benefits of that. 382 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: Your current coach, Zach Taylor, is something of a savant 383 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to highly successful high school quarterbacks. He 384 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: seems kind of obsessed with it. When you arrived in 385 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: the building. Did he know all about your days at 386 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: fulsome high school? 387 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: I think when I arrived in the building, he knew 388 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: that I had just come from the Minnesota Vikings facility 389 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: and they were our week one opponent. I'm not sure 390 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: how much he really knew outside of that. 391 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: There. It was out to the University of Washington. You 392 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: had a great four year career there. You started your 393 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: first game as a freshman. How nerve racking is that 394 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: when you're a teenager right out of high school. 395 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was my first time on a sideline for 396 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: a college game and I was starting, and you know, 397 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: my college coach was Chris Peterson. It was his first 398 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: time going back to Boise and so it was a 399 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 3: primetime game and all that. But yeah, I think you 400 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 3: just go into like, I have no idea what this 401 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: is going to be like, and I don't really know 402 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: what to expect, but here we go, and yeah, we 403 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: lost a close game at the end. Ironically, Brett Rippon 404 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: was on the other team. 405 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: In some ways, is that more nerve wracking than what 406 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: you're going to do on Monday Night against the Broncos. 407 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I would say, so, I've played a decent 408 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 3: amount of football. Now, I've been in not a crazy 409 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: amount of stars, but a decent amount of stars. But 410 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: I've been on the at least I've been on the 411 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: sideline and kind of know like the rhythm of everything. 412 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I remember I didn't know what a TV 413 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: time out was because I had never played in college 414 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: or anything. So I remember the first time I run 415 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: out there and there's like TV time I'm like, I 416 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: don't even know what that was. And so, yeah, I 417 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: would say nerve wracking, probably more so in college just 418 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: having no experience. 419 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: During the time you spent on the Vikings practice squad, 420 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: what did you learn about yourself in terms of where 421 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: you needed to improve? 422 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I recreated my entire throwing motion after college. My 423 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: throwing motion was I was always accurate, but I couldn't 424 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: really push it down the field. Very far was it 425 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: was inconsistent a little bit, and so I changed the 426 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 3: whole thing. Changed my footwork, I changed my throwing motion, 427 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: changed my body comp and just now I'm a completely 428 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: different person in year four in the NFL than I 429 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: was coming in. And uh, you know, I think that 430 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: was kind of what revitalized my career a little bit 431 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: and allowed me to cotinue to stay in the NFL, 432 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: stick around until I got an opportunity. And when that 433 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: opportunity came, it was kind of when I could show 434 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: some of the things that improved on and that people 435 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: inside the building knew, but nobody outside the building ever 436 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: really knew. 437 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: Was it expensive going to these high profile quarterback gurus 438 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: in the off season and try to remake your throwing motion. 439 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's not cheap. I would say. 440 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 3: The more nerve wracking part is that you're doing in 441 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: the off season not knowing if you're gonna have a 442 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: job the following year. You know, if you do have 443 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: the job, then ad I mean, it's the best investment 444 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: you could ever make, but you don't really know, and 445 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: you don't know, Like, I'm gonna work hard all of 446 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: February March and then April comes and they draft a 447 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: quarterback and you're like, ah, there kind of goes my chance. 448 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 3: They're going to put that guy out there. And so 449 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: I think that's what something you're always kind of battling. 450 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: But I think for me it was you know, I 451 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 3: couldn't imagine being in a situation where I didn't do 452 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: it and then had the regret of like, I should 453 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: have done that, and you know, whether I continued to 454 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: play or if I just you know, if I was 455 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: done after the Vikings cut me, then you know, at 456 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: least I would have the peace of mind. I like, hey, 457 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 3: I gave it everything I had. 458 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: How close were you to starting a coaching career before 459 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals called twenty four hours? 460 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 3: I had it all, I had it lined up. I 461 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: was getting ready to leave to uh volunteer coach out 462 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: of college, just because I didn't want to sit around 463 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: waiting for you know, I'd lived my first three years 464 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: of my life in the NFL just was so much uncertainty. 465 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: I didn't want to sit around waiting for somebody to call, 466 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: not knowing if they're going to call, and just get Nancy. 467 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: So figured i'd keep myself busy with something. Fortunately, you know, 468 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: saved up some money where I could figure out by 469 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: myself a little bit of a runway and uh and 470 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: then yeah, I got the call. I think Sunday night, 471 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: But if I made it to Tuesday, I was probably 472 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: gonna drive down to Corvallis and start helping out with 473 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: my college coach. 474 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: People joke that backup quarterback is the greatest gig in 475 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: the world world. You're well compensated, you don't take the hits. 476 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: But as a competitor, when people say that, does it 477 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: tick you off? 478 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that both can be true. 479 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: Like it's it's obviously it's like you said, it's a 480 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 3: high paying job. You're not really doing a whole lot 481 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: until you're thrown in there, and it's like no one 482 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: is checking in to make sure you're dialed and that 483 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: you know everything that's going on. Like you kind of 484 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 3: just have to self manage yourself and make sure that 485 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: you know what's going on because everything else is gear everything, 486 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: practice meetings, everything is geared towards the starter, and so 487 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: it's on you to know. And you know, like last year, 488 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: I was, I was ready every single game, but nobody, 489 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: nobody knows, So that's the part that's frustrating as a competitor. 490 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: You feel like you're working really hard and doing all 491 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: these different things without the opportunity to play. And so 492 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: I think I think both can be true. But I 493 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: think it's throughout my whole career, like having both perspectives 494 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: of like, hey, I'm I'm in. I'm in the NFL, 495 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: whether it's practice, squad active like you know, I'm not. 496 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: I'm not starving, I'm not. There's a lot worst jobs 497 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: out there, But am I where I want to be? No, 498 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 3: Like in the same thing as a backup, like it's 499 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: a good gig, like I'm we're I'm not going to 500 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: deny that, but it's not where I want to be. 501 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: And so I think having both those perspectives can help 502 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 3: you continue to drive towards what you want without becoming 503 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 3: bitter in an objectively good position. 504 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: After last week's loss, you said, I think you've got 505 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: to sit in it. What did that look like for 506 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: you in the next twenty four or forty eight hours misery? 507 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think anytime you know, you take it on 508 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: the chin like that, it sucks. You put a ton 509 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: of work into it, and you go into it with 510 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: every intention of it going well and then it just 511 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 3: nothing goes well. And you know, I think that is 512 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: probably the biggest adjustment. Like, you know, I've been the 513 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 3: backup for games that didn't go away, that were super lobsided, 514 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: and it just doesn't feel, it doesn't doesn't hit the same. 515 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: Like I think in those situations, you know, I'd feel 516 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: for Joe or like want to be helpful, but you know, 517 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: I'd go home and I'd go to bed because I 518 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 3: don't really play, and like when you do play, you 519 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 3: go home, it's hard to sleep, you feel miserable, and 520 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: like you got to go through the highs and lows 521 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: of being the starter. And I think that's you know, 522 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 3: the position that obviously I wanted to find myself in 523 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: and I want to continue to find myself in going forward. 524 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: So having you know, a routine, whatever it takes you 525 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: to mentally get over it, take obviously, take the the 526 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: takeaways that you need to to improve, but then getting 527 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 3: yourself in the back in the fight and continuing to 528 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: get ready for the next game and put yourself in 529 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: position to bounce back. 530 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: Best of luck on Monday night. Thank you. While the 531 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in NFL history who have thrown at least three 532 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: hundred passes, which admittedly isn't a huge sample size. Jake 533 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: Browning has the highest completion percentage at sixty nine point nine. 534 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: Oddly enough, Joe Burrow ranks second on the list at 535 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: sixty eight point five. 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The Denver Broncos went to the playoffs 543 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: last year, edging Cincinnati for the seventh and final spot 544 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: in the AFC with a ten and seven record, but 545 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: the Broncos are one and two this year. They opened 546 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: with an eight point win over Tennessee before losing back 547 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: to back games on walk off field goals to the 548 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: Colts and Chargers. Nick Cosmider covers the team for The 549 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: Athletic and discussed what's gone wrong in the last two 550 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: weeks when he joined Dave Lapham and me on the 551 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: Bengals Game Plan Show. 552 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: They just have not been able to finish they have had. 553 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: If you combine those two games, they had seven opportunities 554 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter to either create a two score 555 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: cushion or. 556 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: To go on a drive that won the game, and. 557 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: They have not been able to do enough in any 558 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: of those situations to get that two score lead. And 559 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 4: you know, obviously, when you look at the root causes 560 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 4: of that, there's been there's been different issues that they've 561 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 4: been kind of uncharacteristically penalized. If you compare it to 562 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 4: last year, you know that they've they've had a few 563 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: injuries that they've dealt with. But by and large, I 564 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: think that's the biggest takeaway from where they're at. They 565 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: could easily be three and zero. Particularly defensively, they've they've 566 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: created one of the league's best pass rushes and that's 567 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: been dynamic. They've had some sporadic success in the run 568 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: game from JK. Dobbins, who's been off to a really 569 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: nice start, but in the moments that matter against good teams, 570 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: they just have not been able to close the deal. 571 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 5: The Denver Broncos, I mean, when I play you know, 572 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 5: back in the seventies and early eighties, the Denver Broncos 573 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 5: defense was as good as there was in the National 574 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 5: Football League. I mean it was that was when when 575 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 5: you were going up against the Broncos, you knew that 576 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 5: you had to you had to be on your toes. 577 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 5: I mean, you were going to see a lot You're 578 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 5: going to see a lot of different things, and they 579 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 5: were going to play hard, and like you talk about, uh, 580 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 5: they were going to finish plays and they they weren't 581 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: going to make a whole lot of mistakes. They they 582 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 5: weren't going to beat themselves. They were going to you. 583 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 5: You had to go out and you had to beat 584 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 5: the Denver Broncos. And playing them in Denver, well, that 585 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: crowd noise was, I mean just an unbelievable chore. How 586 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 5: close is this defensive football team to being that type 587 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 5: of unit where the opposing you know, teams are fearful 588 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: or apprehensive about playing against them. 589 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think there's been slashes of them doing that 590 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: pretty consistently this year. And it starts with the pass rush. 591 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: Right now. 592 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: If you're an opposing quarter you know, particularly in Cincinnati's case, 593 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: one like Jake Browning, who is you know, filling in 594 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: for Joe Burrow there, I think probably is a healthy 595 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: fear about that pass rush and just how many different 596 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 4: ways you know they can beat you. Nick Bonito right now, 597 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: it was a second team All Pro last year he 598 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: was he kind of came out of nowhere to get that, 599 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: but he now looks like he has taken another level up. 600 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: He looks early in the season like one of the 601 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 4: league's very best pass rushers. He is incredible speed off 602 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: the edge, and then you just have so many other 603 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 4: really solid players, whether it's Zach Allen and John Franklin 604 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: Myers creating that that interior pressure. Jonathan Cooper I think 605 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: is one of the more underrated outside edge rushers in 606 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 4: this league. Then they even have a guy like Jonah 607 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 4: Ellis who's in his second season, who's, you know, come 608 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: off the bench and done a really good job. They've 609 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: they've done a really nice job with with those things 610 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: that The thing that they've struggled with quite a lot 611 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 4: actually is is covering running backs out of the backfield. 612 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 4: That's been a major achilles heel. In each of the 613 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 4: first three games, they have given up big plays in 614 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 4: the passing game to running backs who are either you know, 615 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: completely unaccounted for or who were able to just win 616 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: a one on one battle, and the result of those 617 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 4: plays has always led to scoring drives and in close 618 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: games that they've been in, you know that that's something 619 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: that they have they have to clean up there. There's 620 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: some detail oriented mistakes that I think I have kept 621 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: them from being, you know, kind of that that elite, 622 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 4: elite unit that they want to turn themselves into. I 623 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 4: think it's in there and it's possible for them, but 624 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: they still have a little waste to go in terms 625 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 4: of bringing it all together. 626 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: Nick Cosmidori is our guest. He covers the Broncos for 627 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: the Athletic Let's talk bow Nicks. We saw him late 628 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: in the regular season last year. Looked good, had a 629 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: really good rookie year. Looks like he's been so so, 630 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: at least statistically this year. Five touchdowns, three picks, passer 631 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: rating in the low eighties. How has bo Nicks performed? 632 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's probably a fair characterization. It's been 633 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: kind of so so, a little bit up and down. 634 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: Probably not ultimately the start to the season that he 635 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 4: wanted to have. And again, it kind of goes back to, 636 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 4: you know, the defensive side. It's not all just on uh, 637 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 4: it's not all just on what he's what he's not doing. 638 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 4: I think they've had a lot of offensive penalties that 639 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 4: have kind of slow drives. They've just had you know, 640 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: negative plays in really up inopportune times, and that's left 641 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: them in a lot of tough situations. Like, for example, 642 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: their average distance to gain on third down in Week 643 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 4: three against the Chargers was eleven yards. You're not gonna 644 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 4: you're not gonna get any kind of offensive rhythm going 645 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 4: when you're constantly staring at third and long. So that's 646 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: a thing that they have to really figure out a 647 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 4: way to to be ahead of the chains on first 648 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 4: and second down, to put themselves in more manageable third 649 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 4: down situations. Because he's a guy right now in his 650 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: career bo Nicks, who you know, he's not gonna he's 651 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: not gonna paper over all your problems. He can definitely 652 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: be part of a solution and part of creating, you know, 653 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 4: a really efficient offense. But but he is, he's not 654 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: and shouldn't be asked to be this kind of guy 655 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 4: that lifts all boats, and right now they just need 656 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 4: to do I think a better job around him so 657 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 4: that they're not in those situations where you know, opposing 658 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: teams can really kind of get to all their different 659 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 4: pressure looks and give him problems. 660 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 5: When they Broncos have had their biggest problems. What what 661 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 5: what type of offensive attack has been the toughest for 662 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 5: this Denver Bronco defense to handle? 663 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: What? 664 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 5: What type of personnel formations motion, you know, change the 665 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 5: strength or all that kind of thing. What what what 666 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 5: has been the biggest problem for the Denver Broncos to 667 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 5: try to solve. 668 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think there's a couple of things. 669 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 4: They've they've been mostly good against the ground, but they've 670 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 4: had their lapses there. They gave up a sixty eight 671 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 4: yard run in the second half to Jonathan Taylor that 672 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 4: led to a scoring drive for the Colts. You know, 673 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: running backs just for whatever reason, whether they're coming out 674 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: of the backfield, whether they're you know taking you know, 675 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: whether they're being handed off the whether they're lined up 676 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 4: in the slot, they've just been able to create some problems. 677 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: And part of that is because the Broncos, you know, 678 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 4: they went out and signed Drake Greenlaw in free agency 679 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 4: thinking that he was going to be you know, part 680 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: of the solution for a middle of their defense that 681 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 4: struggled at times last year. He has not made his 682 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 4: Broncos debut. He's currently on IR with a quad injury. 683 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: You know, so certainly they want to get him healthy 684 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 4: and see what the defense looks like with him being 685 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 4: able to do that. But I would say that would 686 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 4: really be kind of the thing right now. Again, they 687 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 4: do a really good job rushing the passer. There's been 688 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 4: some discipline issues again that kind of the breakdowns that 689 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 4: have led to some of these easy passes to running 690 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 4: backs in the flat. You know that they've had some 691 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: some penalties that have extended drives that they could have 692 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 4: otherwise and did so. I think just kind of the 693 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 4: sharper focus on the details is what they really have 694 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: to be after as they welcome Cincinnati on Monday night. 695 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: We're chatting with Nick Cosmider from The Athletic. My final 696 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: question has to do with the injuries. You met Drake Greenlaw, 697 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: who's on IR. Broncos have seven guys on IR. Are 698 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: any of the other guys especially impactful or were these 699 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: guys that were not likely to play big roles? 700 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think really when you look at it, green 701 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: Laws is probably the number one guy, and another inside 702 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 4: linebacker Drew Sanders, entering his third year with somebody. I 703 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 4: think they were really looking to kind of take a 704 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 4: next step. He's very athletic player and could give him 705 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 4: some of that sideline the sideline ability that they could 706 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: certainly use in a number of different sub packages. He 707 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 4: injured his foot in training camp, so he's not eligible 708 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 4: to come off i R until after this week. Don't know, 709 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 4: you know just how how quickly he will return. He's 710 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 4: a guy I'd say that they could certainly benefit from 711 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 4: having right now and then. And then another player who's 712 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 4: not on IR but miss last week would be Evan 713 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: Ingram again, the tight end that they signed this offseason 714 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 4: to give them more of a presence in the middle 715 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 4: of the field. That's that's one area where the Bronco 716 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 4: offensively have not got enough production in between the numbers, 717 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 4: and he's a guy that is supposed to bring that 718 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 4: through the first two games when he was available only 719 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 4: four catches for thirty three yards, and then, like I said, 720 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 4: miss the game against the Chargers. They need him healthy, 721 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 4: you know, as soon as possible. We of course have 722 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 4: not yet been out there this week. Well, we'll get 723 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: a better idea tomorrow as to whether Ingram is going 724 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 4: to be a guy who can contribute to them this week. 725 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 5: The one thing that I remember about Denver as a 726 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 5: former player when I in the seventies and eighties playing 727 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 5: with the Bengals when he traveled out there again was 728 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 5: the crowd noise. I mean, it was ridiculous, loudest outdoor 729 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 5: stadium I've ever been to. Couldn't hear yourself think. I 730 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 5: mean when you get on the bus after the game 731 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 5: and after you clean yourself up. He had a headache. 732 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it was. It was a brutal experience, it 733 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 5: really was. Has it been like that for the opposition 734 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 5: teams coming to Denver so far this season? 735 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? I would say that the the op the energy 736 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 4: and the opener against the Titans that was probably, you know, 737 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 4: like probably the best like season opening crowd that that 738 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 4: I've seen here in quite a long time. I Mean, 739 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 4: this Broncos team entered this season with with a lot 740 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 4: of expectations. Sean Payton has not been afraid to say 741 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 4: that he thinks this is a team that can compete 742 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 4: for the Super Bowl, so so certainly, having lost these 743 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 4: last two games in kind of excruciating fashion. You know, 744 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: the fan base is a little bit antsy right now, 745 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 4: but I would say there's no doubt that, especially in 746 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 4: a primetime situation on a on a Monday night, that 747 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 4: the crowd is definitely going to be a factor, and 748 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 4: I think they're going to believe that they can that 749 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 4: they can impact the game. Again for a guy who 750 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 4: obviously Browning's got experience, but it is the backup and 751 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 4: having to go against that defense in that scenario that 752 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 4: that's obviously one area where the Broncos hope that they 753 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 4: can have an advantage. But I'm excited to see it. 754 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 4: I'm I'm bumm that we don't necessarily get the same 755 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 4: you know, complexion that we got for that great game 756 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati back in December, but you never know, Monday 757 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: nights things get weird. So I'm really eager to see 758 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 4: how it all shakes out. 759 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: Roncos have a six game home winning streak and have 760 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: won those games by an average of nineteen point eight points. 761 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: Our thanks to Nick Cosmider, and here's a quick invitation 762 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: to join Lapp and Wayne box Miller for the Bengals 763 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: pep Rally Show this week. They'll be at the on 764 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: the Rhine Eatery on the second floor above the downtown 765 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: Kroger on Friday from three to six. If you can't 766 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: make it, you can listen on ESPN fifteen thirty or 767 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: by searching for ESPN fifteen thirty on the iHeartMedia app. 768 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the 769 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast brought to you by pay Core, Proud 770 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: to be the Bengals Official HR software provider, by Alta 771 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: Fiber future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 772 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by Kettering 773 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 774 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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