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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Who is this this? What's up? Jay?

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Speaker 2: Is this the gecko?

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Speaker 1: This is the gecko?

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Speaker 2: Very very cool? What's up with me? I am sitting?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if I asked that?

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Speaker 1: Did I did? I say? What's up with you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You said, you said, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Fuck? I have, dude, I have like horrible I don't

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Speaker 1: know how long this has been going on, but I

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Speaker 1: have like horrible short term amnesia memory thing. I don't

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Speaker 2: Is your long term memory? Good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I think I think my long term

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Speaker 1: memory is good. I just don't remember like names or

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Speaker 1: things that people just told me, or that I've said.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's as a result of like

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Speaker 1: say that again.

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Speaker 2: You'd like, do you remember your third grade teacher's name?

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Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah. I think her name was miss Hellman.

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Speaker 2: I think I only know one of my teacher's names

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Speaker 2: from all twelve years of school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what are their names? What's give me one?

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Speaker 2: Just erase it from my memory?

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Speaker 1: But what's going on with you? Jay? What's up with you?

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Speaker 2: Well? Well, first I want to say I'm sad I

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Speaker 2: missed your show in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Ah, what did you were you not able to tickets?

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Speaker 2: Not just that, but I it's been kind of scary

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Speaker 1: Ah Jay twenty eight, Chicago has had diarrhea for almost

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Speaker 1: three months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a week and a half, it'll be three months. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I've gone to a doctor. Of course, I've gone to

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Speaker 2: a doctor. I'm not stupid. And and they, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it's so disgusting. They made me like bring in a sample,

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Speaker 2: and they went through all of the lists and they

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Speaker 2: said that I have giardia. Giardia is a pest, you

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Speaker 2: know what a it's. It's in water, and it usually

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Speaker 2: comes from a minuscule amount of seco matter. You can

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Speaker 2: get it literally anywhere. You can get it at a restaurant,

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Speaker 2: you can get it licking a puddle in the street.

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Speaker 2: You can get it from your own sink. So that's

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Speaker 2: what happened to me. Got put on medication, came back

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Speaker 2: immediately the following week. And then.

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Speaker 1: Well it says also that you you believe that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I go to my real doctor because I

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Speaker 2: went to an emergency or not an emergency room. I

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Speaker 2: went to urge Eka the first time I go to

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Speaker 2: does the same thing the next week, immediately comes back.

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Speaker 2: So my issue with the fact that it's been almost

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Speaker 2: three months is that I've been seeing this guy. I've

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Speaker 2: been dating this guy. I started dating a guy just

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Speaker 2: before this whole diary of thing happened. He went on

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Speaker 2: a work trip out of Stay It, and the entire

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Speaker 2: time he's been out of Stay It, I've been having

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Speaker 2: this diarrhea. He comes back next week, and I've already

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Speaker 2: told him the whole thing. He thinks that he thinks

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Speaker 2: that my health is good after the first time I

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Speaker 2: went to the doctor. He doesn't know that, you know,

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Speaker 2: like we I, I am a I am a gay

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Speaker 2: man as particpateon aff He is going to be coming

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Speaker 2: back next week and I have major explosive diarrhea every

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Speaker 2: other hour, and I don't know what to tell him.

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Speaker 1: Are you on the toilet right now while you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm in my depression room.

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Speaker 1: You have a whole room dedicated to depression.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's maybe I shouldn't call it a depression room.

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Speaker 2: It's the anxiety room. The the where all of my

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Speaker 2: ship goes. That isn't on display in my apartment all

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Speaker 2: of your it's like boxes and boxes. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: That's just because I said depression room. This sounds like

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Speaker 1: kind of a good idea. It's good to like have

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Speaker 1: a place where you can put it all that stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So your boyfriend does not know that you have been

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Speaker 1: having explosive diarrhea for three months every other hour.

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Speaker 2: He knew in the beginning, like right when he left for.

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Speaker 1: The trip, but he doesn't know it's still going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: means that you guys cannot have anal sex. Yeah, tell

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Speaker 1: me again what the doctor's told you about a timeline

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Speaker 1: of if this will get better.

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Speaker 2: Well, normally it should get better within a week. And

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Speaker 2: I went to urgent care again for the second time

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Speaker 2: after seeing my real doctor, and they want me to

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Speaker 2: bring in another sample. But the thing is, every time

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Speaker 2: I get constipated, and then the next day I have

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Speaker 2: So I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, hold on, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 3: Jay.

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Speaker 1: So your doctor has told you that as part of

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Speaker 1: the process of you getting better, you need to bring

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Speaker 2: It's it's the worst because it's like on my free days,

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Speaker 2: I'm constipated on the days where I'm actually Jay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jay, if you're having diarrhea every other hour for

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Speaker 1: the past three months, you need to I feel like

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Speaker 1: that is a priority. Is quit your fucking job if

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Speaker 1: you have to. You you can't do that. You can't

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Speaker 1: have fucking diarrhea every hour. Where do you even? Where

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Speaker 1: do you even work? Where you can do your job

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Speaker 2: At home? At home?

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Speaker 1: You work at home?

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Speaker 2: I need to be next to a toilet at all

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Speaker 2: hours of my day.

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Speaker 1: Jake, take a diarrhea all over part of Jay diarrhea.

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Speaker 1: Go give them the sample. What are you doing? Just

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Speaker 1: diarrhea in your car? Doesn't nobody, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It's tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, You're gonna diarrhea.

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Speaker 2: In your car today.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do that. You've got to prioritize this day,

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: How long you've been dad to your boyfriend?

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Speaker 2: For four months?

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Speaker 1: Four? Wait? You been for four months. He he hasn't

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Speaker 1: even been with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been gone, but we we talk every day

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Speaker 2: and and he's he's coming back on Monday. Jas in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how to I don't know how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's un.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it is what it is. Do you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was even the first time I let

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Speaker 2: because sometimes it resolves itself. Sometimes you gotta take medication.

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Speaker 1: And have you been taking Okay, you went through two

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Speaker 1: randsom medication. Are they are they gonna put you on

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Speaker 1: a third one?

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Speaker 2: That's what I asked for and they didn't want to

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Speaker 1: You gotta tell you.

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Speaker 2: I think like every time, every time I want to

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Speaker 2: bring in a sample, my stomach gets stressed out and

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know this is this is like

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Speaker 1: kind of Yeah, that like a diarrhea suit, So that

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Speaker 2: Is there a way for astronauts to like close their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're astronauts. They've figured out everything. All. I guess

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Speaker 1: what we're getting at here with this line of conversation, Jay,

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Speaker 1: is that not all hope is lost for you. Listen,

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Speaker 1: your boyfriend's situation. Just tell him. You have no other

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Speaker 1: Just tell him. And I don't know how he's going

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Speaker 1: it's okay. He's gonna laugh. Okay, it's gonna be Jay,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be okay. Man, if I could tell you,

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Speaker 1: if it's all I feel, that's all I want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just glad I haven't had a single hemorrhoid.

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Speaker 1: You one day will not have diarrhea. But you you

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Speaker 1: gotta go. You guys delivered that stool sample. You gotta

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Speaker 1: don't I hope you're freaking out too hard about this

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not it's not worth freaking out about.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's fine.

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Speaker 1: And hey, listen, we've been on the phone for eleven

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Speaker 2: No, I I have not. I actually went before I

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Speaker 1: Jay, is there anything else you want to say to

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Speaker 2: Uh, go to the doctor? Probably you need to, honestly,

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Speaker 1: That that's the magic number. Yeah, thanks for calling, Jay,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for talking to me. I don't go to the

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Speaker 1: Here's the plan of how we're going to help you

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I knew that. I'm afraid because I'm afraid

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Speaker 1: I should probably go to the doctor. Hello, Hi, Hi,

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Speaker 1: keck Hi, what is your name?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 3: I'm calling Lindsay.

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Speaker 1: Lindsey, Lindsay, Lindsay, what's going on with you in your life?

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Speaker 3: So I'm kind of gonna pickle right now? Yah, my parents,

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Speaker 3: My parents are kicking me out due to the guy

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Speaker 3: I am seeing. I have been seeing him for about

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Speaker 3: three years right now, and none of my friends will

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Speaker 3: for some reason, I still like him, and part of

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Speaker 3: me just wants to leave him, but then a part

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Speaker 3: of me doesn't want to. And I've even tried to

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Speaker 3: I just kind of need some advice, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Lindsay, you've got uh you've got a you've

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Speaker 1: But that is the thing is that you know your friends,

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Speaker 3: Lindsey, thank you, kick and then dying to ask you

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Speaker 4: hear that or something, or is it my job to

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00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: like tell it better? I guess it's kind of I

440
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: don't know if that makes sense, but yeah, curious, so

441
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: I would think about that.

442
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: Tell me you have told this story about when you

443
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: were fifteen to various people in your life, and you

444
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: have been unsatisfied with their reactions.

445
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: Uh, sometimes more than others. Like, well, I guess, I

446
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: mean that's an interesting point. Like I've got some close

447
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: friends that just respond really well and they're supportive and stuff.

448
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: But if there's ever a time that I'm telling someone

449
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: new about it, there's always the gamble of whether or

450
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: not it's going to make things weird, because it has

451
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: made things weird, and like I'm not I don't talk

452
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: with this person now anymore after it.

453
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's I mean, let's get really into this

454
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: right now. When you say it makes things weird, when

455
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: you are getting a reaction that you feel is not

456
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: is a is a dissatisfactory reaction, explain to me why

457
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: the reaction is dissatisfactory and why it makes you weird.

458
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: Well, for one thing, I mean, in this case, it

459
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: was the extreme of like not even acknowledging it. Like

460
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: there's like if there's any uncomfort, like discomfort there, Like

461
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: I know that, like a topic like that can be uncomfortable.

462
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: I understand that. But like two, like I've had some

463
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 4: people say, hey, like that's that's a lot. I don't

464
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: even know what to say about that. But I guess

465
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: the response that I've seen that's dissatisfactory is like very

466
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: quickly wanting to move on to something else, not even

467
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: that I'm trying to like talk someone's ear off about it.

468
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: But shoot, it's hard to describe. But it's just it's

469
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: it turns people off like it's it. It just can be

470
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: off putting and it's visible. I don't know how else

471
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: to describe that.

472
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, okay, Now tell me what a what a

473
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: satisfactory response to this looks like from from one of

474
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: your your friends? Tell me what you want from them?

475
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

476
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: Well, I think the people that know me well enough

477
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: know that that's not something that bugs me day to day.

478
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: Like again, like I said, I don't even think about

479
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 4: it that often. But it doesn't seem like they're taking

480
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: the weight of that on themselves. They're just like whoa,

481
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: that's amazing or that's crazy, or like that's horrible. Like

482
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: any reaction to it, I guess is better than That's

483
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 4: really hard. I'm man, I'm having a hard time describing this.

484
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: I ask you another question, and I don't and I

485
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: don't know what you have thought about this before, but

486
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: I asked you this genuinely. What why do you Why

487
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: does it matter to you how people respond to this?

488
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, I guess it's at this point in time,

489
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: the people that I'm sharing it with are people that

490
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: I want to know about. A big, a pretty big

491
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: part of my life, so like, I don't know, it's

492
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: just that desire to be more fully known as a person,

493
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: like getting I don't know, just in my background. Sorry, man,

494
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: I feel like i'm what was the question again.

495
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: I was asking you. It's okay, man, don't don't. Don't

496
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: stretch yourself out about trying to find, you know, a

497
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: perfect answer to any of these these questions. I'm just

498
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: trying to sure find out. I asked you why it's

499
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: important to you that people respond a certain way to this?

500
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: Oh hmm, that's an interesting question. I'm not quite sure

501
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: if I answer that.

502
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Because here's the here's here's the thing is this is

503
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: a heavy This is to me like a heavy focus

504
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: on a thing that's outside of your control. I don't

505
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: know if you're looking at this as like some form

506
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: of a I don't know if you're looking at this

507
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: is some form of a litmus test, like you're almost

508
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: testing people to see if they are, you know, whatever, supportive.

509
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: But I think if you're going around having heavy expectations

510
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: of how other people should react to this thing, you're

511
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: tripping yourself up here.

512
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: That's really interesting.

513
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: I think you're tripping yourself up with this.

514
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: That's super interesting. I guess even broader than that, Like

515
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: I know that I'm pretty I like talking about more

516
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: complex topics. I know, I'm kind of philosophically inclined, and

517
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: I like just thinking and talking and doing art and

518
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 4: talking about art and stuff like that. So I feel like,

519
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: to me, this is something that has I mean, again,

520
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: it's over what is that twelve years ago that this happened,

521
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: So it's pretty.

522
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: And so you can't you were just it's funny to

523
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: be you were just doing well, it's funny to me

524
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: that you was doing math because you were you were

525
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: upset at the person who was who was doing Who's

526
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: doing math?

527
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, I guess ILL have to say

528
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: is that, like it is more normal for me and

529
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: have the expectation on the people for hearing that afresh,

530
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: Like it is not like a fresh story for me.

531
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: So when I go back and tell people it is

532
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: pretty like it's like a normal thing for me at

533
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 4: this point because it was so long ago when I've

534
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: like accepted it as such. So that's interesting about the expectations.

535
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: I just I mean, dude, if so you're telling I

536
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: mean you you've you've like let me if I can

537
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: bring up a few things that you've brought up over

538
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: the course of this conversation. You you've told us, you

539
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: you you, you kind of brought this up like, hey,

540
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: this was twelve years ago. This isn't even something I

541
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: really think about that much. It's just a thing to

542
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: share with people. This is what you do. Is that accurate?

543
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Is that the truth?

544
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

545
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

546
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

547
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: Okay? So when so when you tell it to people

548
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: and then to them they're like, oh, twelve years ago

549
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: you had cancer, okay, and then what's going on with

550
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: the fucking Mets this year? You know, like why why

551
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: is that? If they're taking it as much of a

552
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: thing as you take it as, why is that an

553
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: issue for you?

554
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: Super interesting? Uh, you're blow on my mind now, that's uh,

555
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 4: that's a really interesting point. It's kind of like I

556
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: want them to understand the severity of it, but also

557
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: that it's not a big deal, like it can't be

558
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: both hanned. Yeah that's interesting, man.

559
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: You you you want no.

560
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: Go ahead, please, I want to hear what you what

561
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: you felt, but I.

562
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: Do have thing to even just hearing you repeating my

563
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: questions back to me is kind of like, oh, my god, Like,

564
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 4: that's just not a way I've been seeing it before.

565
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: So okay, good, No, I'm glad you're thinking about this. Well,

566
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: just dude, just in general, you know, forgetting about you know,

567
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: we're talking about a severe thing. Forgetting about that, we're

568
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: talking about a big thing in your life. Just in general,

569
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: having expectations of how other people are going to react

570
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: to you or should react to you, and then getting

571
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: disappointed that those expectations is just going to trip you

572
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: the fuck up. So try not to have those expectations.

573
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: You said, it happens a lot in other areas. And

574
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It doesn't matter what we're talking about.

575
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: If you having these expectations of other people is going

576
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: to respond to things, is is not going to do

577
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: you a whole lot of good. Unless if you are

578
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: unless if you're like navigating a relationship with someone and

579
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: you are openly expressing to them what you would like

580
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: from them. If you're doing it like that, I think

581
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: it's a good thing. But if you're just like quietly

582
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: hoping that somebody acts a certain way, you're not going

583
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: to get anywhere. And if you're getting upset that they don't,

584
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: you're just gonna lead yourself to more upset in this.

585
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, man, Well how about that. I've been really

586
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: helpful and illuminating.

587
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: Good.

588
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad. Is there any aspect of any

589
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: of this or anything that we are any fucking anything

590
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: or something about the Mets that you want to say

591
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: before we go?

592
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about the Mets, but I hope

593
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 4: they play well this year.

594
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: I hope they play well too.

595
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, thanks for talking, Lyle.

596
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling.

597
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: Nick had a great night.

598
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: That was that was interesting to me. Nick had a thing.

599
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here with Nick trying to understand his thing.

600
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: The best that was a little bit is it was difficult.

601
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: This is what I'm trying to do here. Nick had

602
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: a thing. I'm trying to understand this thing. It was

603
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: a little bit hard for me to understand, but I'm

604
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: trying my best to understand it. And then as I

605
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: go through to try to understand it, Nick is like,

606
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: oh fuck, I don't even understand this thing. And so

607
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: now both of us are on the same side of

608
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: the court trying to understand this thing. Then the thing

609
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: unravels itself, and then Nick maybe goes, oh maybe this

610
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: isn't a thing. Or maybe I haven't haven't looked at

611
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: this thing, you know, closely enough. Maybe I haven't even

612
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: under tried to understand this thing. That's kind of what

613
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: I feel like happened there.

614
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 5: And I don't.

615
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the Mets. And I appreciate

616
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: Nick for Sharon. What's going on? What's up with you?

617
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: Hi?

618
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 5: So we're Kevin and Olivia? Uh and uh sorry? If

619
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: you hear some dogs running in the background.

620
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: Which one which one are you? Are you Kevin or Olivia?

621
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 5: It depends on the day.

622
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: I guess no, dot doesn't. There's which one are you?

623
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: You?

624
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Kevin or Olivia?

625
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 2: Kevin?

626
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 5: Right now?

627
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: You're Kevin right now. You don't have to you don't

628
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: have we You can just tell me the answer to

629
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: the question, are Kevin or Olivia?

630
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: I'm Kevin?

631
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: Okay? All right? That was it is not everything has

632
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: to be like a crazy riff, you know, for sure?

633
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 5: For sure?

634
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: And then she's there's the other You're not what's your

635
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: the other person's name?

636
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 5: Olivia?

637
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: Kevin? I'm sorry is mean to you just now, but

638
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: I don't I don't regret it, because it was kind

639
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: of fun, you know, I feel like I tried it.

640
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I try to be nice to people

641
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: usually and then I'm like, all right, once I'm nice

642
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: to enough callers, I feel like it earns me. I

643
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: can be mean. You know, I don't know. I don't

644
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: have an exact I don't have like an exact formula

645
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: of like how many me being nice to call her

646
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: as equals I can be mean to one, But I

647
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: feel like for every five that I'm nice to, I

648
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: can be I can be mean to one as a

649
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: random number. That's not the system. But okay, Kevin. It

650
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: says that you and Olivia are a couple.

651
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 6: Yes.

652
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: It says that you guys are sexually adventurous.

653
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 5: Oh, she was actually telling me that I shouldn't said that,

654
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: and just like the blunt and say we're swingers.

655
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like sexually adventure I feel like both

656
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: of them are fairly blunt.

657
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: That's fair, okay, But everybody has a different definition. I

658
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: think of an adventurous, but the swinger one kind of

659
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 5: only means one thing.

660
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: That is a good point. That is a good point,

661
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: cheers man.

662
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 5: Good to hear.

663
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: So it says here.

664
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 7: That you had a uh an experience the you that

665
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 7: you both describe as interesting but weird with another couple,

666
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 7: and you wanted to talk today about that.

667
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: Yes, correct, there was a couple of couples. Actually, there's a.

668
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: Couple of couples. Can I want to I feel like

669
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: I've talked to you for three minutes. I should talk

670
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 1: to Olivia now.

671
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 5: Shoot, she says no. But yeah, I asked. She said no,

672
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 5: she does not want to. No, I guess not. But

673
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 5: we do want your advice.

674
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, she didn't have to talk if she

675
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: didn't want to. Okay, yes, tell me, tell me what's

676
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: going on, keV.

677
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, no problem. Uh so, Uh one of the couples

678
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: is actually I think the first couple that we met

679
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 5: up with when we started doing this, and uh, they

680
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 5: were back in town and they invited us to their

681
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 5: friend's house for a for a you know, swinger party,

682
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 5: and uh, you know it was a stranger's house, but

683
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 5: we were glad to be invited. Uh. We brought you know, snacks,

684
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 5: made sure that we weren't uh we weren't just like

685
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 5: I don't know bo guardian is the right word, but

686
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 5: you know, like we wanted to show up and be

687
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: good guests, you know, don't show up and t handed

688
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 5: type of stuff, and uh yeah, we were having a blast.

689
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: We had some drinks together, some other stuff that I

690
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 5: probably shouldn't go into. But uh then, uh, it turns

691
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 5: out that there was supposed to be another couple there

692
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 5: and this was it wounded up being just one guy,

693
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 5: and so it was an odd number that night. So

694
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 5: that's already where it starts to get weird, because uh yeah,

695
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 5: it's like we've got I feel like everybody's got their

696
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 5: own rules about this kind of stuff. And uh yeah,

697
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 5: I mean we didn't mind it when it was just

698
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 5: the drinking and the chatting, but then it gets to

699
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 5: the bedroom and that's when it starts to get a

700
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 5: little uncomfortable. But uh, I mean I think because we're

701
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 5: so new, we were like not not sure what to

702
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 5: say about it. Uh And I know that's definitely on

703
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: us for not for not speaking up, you know.

704
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: So, I mean there were five.

705
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: There were seven total, seven totally.

706
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Seven oh seven. I mean, look, okay, I mean look what. Yeah,

707
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: by the time there's seven, it's like, is there is

708
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: there we even going to notice that there's an odd number.

709
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 6: We definitely noticed, We definitely noticed. He was like watching every.

710
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 5: It kind of put us on edge, you know, like

711
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: we we had to keep looking over our shoulder and

712
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 5: make sure that made sure.

713
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, Olivia, Yes,

714
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: do you want to talk now?

715
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 6: I just was saying that with seven people, it was

716
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 6: definitely weird because he was like sitting in a chair

717
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 6: like watching everybody, and it was weird, and we kept

718
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 6: being afraid that he was going to get up and

719
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 6: try to come join in.

720
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: Well isn't that the I mean, you guys went to

721
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: an orgy?

722
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 5: I guess so. Yeah, but like I said, like a

723
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: lot of everybody's got different rules and okay, it's certain, yeah,

724
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 5: certain things weren't communicated.

725
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

726
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: And also, by the way, well this guy was not

727
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: supposed to but we we thought that he had a

728
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: girl and she couldn't make it. We don't know if

729
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 5: like they had like a falling out or something, but

730
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 5: it seemed to us like he might have gotten dumped.

731
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 5: And uh, yeah, he was invited for I don't know.

732
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 5: I mean, they knew each other more than we knew them,

733
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 5: so we couldn't, you know, say anything about who they

734
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 5: were having over to their house.

735
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So Okay, so this guy was there, it

736
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: made you uncomfortable? And then how did this lead to

737
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: what would you describe as a I mean, did this

738
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: how did this situation kind of progress?

739
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 5: Okay, so it gets to get a little bit later.

740
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 5: Everyone's having fun. This guy is sitting in his chair

741
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 5: and like two of the girls are you know, playing

742
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 5: with him. But we don't really like to do that

743
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 5: with single people. That's kind of one of our rules.

744
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: Got so, uh, that's fine, Like if they want to,

745
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 5: if they want to, you know, hang out with him,

746
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 5: that's fine, But it also kind of leaves it leaves

747
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 5: an extra rod, if you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

748
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 5: there's there wasn't there wasn't enough women to go around

749
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 5: for this many guys. Ah, if if you wanted to

750
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 5: like be one on one, I guess, And like I said,

751
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: just look like like the uh the fear of having

752
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 5: not a fear, I guess, but like just having to

753
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: look over our shoulders and make sure that nothing untoward

754
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 5: was going on on our end, because like you know,

755
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 5: you're you're not always going to be able to to

756
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 5: look at who's in these situations. You're not always going

757
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 5: to be able to see who's who's in your periphery.

758
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I guess sure.

759
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 5: So we wanted to make sure that only the people

760
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 5: that were consented to were touching this, you know, right.

761
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: So well, okay, so I mean it says here, uh

762
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: that the couple that you went swinging with, it says

763
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: you've you seem like they were upset at you guys

764
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: for quote talking about bisexuality.

765
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that that's kind of is that the issue there?

766
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: Okay?

767
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 5: What yeah, no problem? Uh so, uh that part is

768
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 5: more related to me. Uh and I think what kind

769
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: of There were few things that kind of brought that up.

770
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 5: One of them being this odd number and not knowing

771
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 5: what to do with that extra guy, and then another

772
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: one being the drinking and the other stuff that we

773
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 5: were talking about. Let's just say that we were feeling ecstatic.

774
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 5: Uh and uh, I get a little like touchy and grabby,

775
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: and I hadn't done it in a while. So I

776
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 5: was like, well, let me vocalize this and see how

777
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 5: see how everybody's feeling about this, because like, there's an

778
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 5: there's an extra dude here, what do we do about that?

779
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 5: So I asked, hey, how does how does everybody feel

780
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: about like it?

781
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: Wasn't odd.

782
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 5: I mean, it wouldn't be obvious to everyone, but I mean,

783
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 5: I think the majority of people are okay with like

784
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 5: girl and girl stuff. But I felt like I had

785
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 5: to ask, so, how do you guys feel about like

786
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 5: guy on guy stuff? And I think, you know, in

787
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 5: the back of my mind, I was thinking, because there's

788
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 5: an extra guy, like, somebody's got to you know, make

789
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 5: sure that that you know every like everybody's involved.

790
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: I guess so you you were about to take one

791
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 1: for the team and hook up with this extra guy,

792
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: you could.

793
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 5: Call it that, sure, Yeah, I mean mainly so that,

794
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 5: like so that the three guys that were in a

795
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 5: couple could could have their own their own their own girls,

796
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 5: their own lady partner, not not their own, but you know,

797
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 5: so that the three guys that were in a couple

798
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 5: could have a swapping situation and not have to worry

799
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 5: about this extra guy.

800
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm having trouble keeping track of all these numbers,

801
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: but continue.

802
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought I thought that that's kind of why

803
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 5: we called because it was it was it kind of

804
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 5: frazzled us, you know.

805
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So, so so you vocalized to the group, hey,

806
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: is it. Okay, if I hook up with this one

807
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: guy that's sitting here, yes, yeah, okay, what is what happens?

808
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 5: Not specifically him, just like just a guy in general,

809
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: just so that like so that everybody would have like

810
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: somebody to be with.

811
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: Okay. So you're you're like, hey, do the other dudes

812
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: here also like dudes and one hook up with me?

813
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: Yes exactly, yes, yes, okay. And then what happened?

814
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 5: Uh, Like I said, I think the kind of the

815
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 5: mood started to turn a little bit, so maybe not sour,

816
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 5: but definitely tangy. And we went out to get like

817
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 5: a like a I don't know, something to drink or something.

818
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 5: We stepped out of the room and the guy that

819
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 5: invited us, the guy that invited us there, uh kind

820
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 5: of uh took us, took us aside to this other

821
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: room and like expressed to us, hey, you know, like

822
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 5: I'm not going to judge you for something like this,

823
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: but there are people in that room that get turned

824
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 5: off and don't feel comfortable with talking about stuff like that.

825
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 5: And you know, like we were all inegraated. So I

826
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 5: was like yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, okay, but you know,

827
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 5: after a couple of days of thinking about it. I'm like,

828
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 5: why didn't this come up when I asked the question,

829
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 5: why did we have to go into like this separate

830
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 5: room and be talked to about this like we're children

831
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 5: rather than just everybody like talk about it as adults.

832
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 5: And yeah, they haven't gotten black.

833
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: What did what Olivia is just say, I want to

834
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: talk to Olivia.

835
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 6: Oh just a that night. They haven't like contacted us

836
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 6: really and we've like tried to talk to them, and

837
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 6: they've been like very like cold and short with us,

838
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 6: and we're like, what's wrong?

839
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: I guess, And so I.

840
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: Guess the main I look, I mean look it.

841
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: Well, okay, tell me what the main the main question is, I.

842
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: Suppose, Yeah, like basically, how do we breach these topics

843
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 5: with people that you know, we hope to still consider friends.

844
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 5: But like if if they've got like not very good

845
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 5: reasons for uh, I guess, you know, separating us from

846
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 5: the group, then we probably won't want to be friends

847
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 5: with them. But we want to know how to start

848
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 5: this conversation.

849
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I can, I mean, I have all right,

850
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: I think I understood everything you just told me, but

851
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: I I am.

852
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 5: If you want to reiterate, go ahead and.

853
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Then where I am eighty percent charge just understood everything

854
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: you just said to me.

855
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 5: Okay, that's a passing threate.

856
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: You asked me. You you said, Okay, how do we iterate?

857
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: I mean you you? You did? You said to the group, hey,

858
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: are you guys cool with guys hooking up with guys?

859
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: And you did it? You said it. You you asked,

860
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: just now, how do I articulate myself to the group? You?

861
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: You did? You articulated yourself to the group in a

862
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: way that sounds to me very clear, very vocal, and

863
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: so great.

864
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: Uh.

865
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: The group reacted in a way that is unfavorable for

866
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: whatever reason that I think is almost not even worth

867
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: speculating upon. And they reacted however they reacted. It's whatever.

868
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: Different things make different people uncomfortable when they're in a

869
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: situation like that. Okay, and you want to be and

870
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: your thing is that you still want to be friends

871
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: with these folks.

872
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: Yes, uh, but obviously not if it's like a like

873
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 5: a I mean, the that's sort a big word out there,

874
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 5: Like if they're bigoted about it, then we definitely don't

875
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: want to see them again. But if it was just

876
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 5: like an uncomfortable thing, and like maybe they didn't know

877
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: how to vocalize it. That's totally understandable. But we want

878
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 5: to be able to start this conversation that we're having.

879
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: With you, okay, with them with do.

880
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 5: You do you?

881
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, all right, all right, okay, I think I'm

882
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: starting to understand this more now you are interpreted, Okay,

883
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: you are interpreting their reaction to you asking the group

884
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: if guys in the group can hook up with other

885
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: guys as a homophobic reaction.

886
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: We don't know.

887
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 5: That's the that's the problem is that we're we're running

888
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 5: all the scenarios through our head and we just don't

889
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 5: know which one, which one it could be, But we

890
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 5: want to find out, So we want to ask these people,

891
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 5: but we don't know how to bring it up.

892
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: What exactly do you want to ask them?

893
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 5: So like basically like are are people upset with us?

894
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 5: Or like did we make did we make them uncomfortable?

895
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: Like why didn't they want to Like it's several questions.

896
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 5: Why didn't they like want to keep talking? Uh uh?

897
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 5: Why didn't they talk to us instead of sending somebody

898
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 5: else to send the message? And ultimately like if they

899
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 5: still want to be friends.

900
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin, uh And Olivia, Okay, listen, I think I think, uh,

901
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: from from where I sit this thing and I don't know.

902
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't know you guys, but I guess from where

903
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: I sit right now, this thing that was supposed to

904
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: be a fun adventure for you guys has turned into

905
00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: something weird and anxious and stressful. Yes, And so I

906
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: would just if if you have had a bad experience

907
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: for whatever reason you know, I mean, it sounds like

908
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 1: you don't have enough information to to to label it correctly,

909
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: just tell these people, just Kevin, if I were you,

910
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: I would just tell these people you just want to

911
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: be friends with them, and then and then if you

912
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: and your partner desire to swing again, go find another

913
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: group to swing with. I I believe it as simple

914
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: as that.

915
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're right.

916
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: Olivia, Olivia, what did you want to say?

917
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: Oh?

918
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 6: I like your answer. I think that's a good answer.

919
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: Okay, good, good.

920
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

921
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a good are you guys?

922
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: Seem like you're gonna have fun with your lives. I

923
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: hope you keep doing that. Of course, thank you? Is

924
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to say to the

925
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: people the computer before we go.

926
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 5: You guys need to honestly, you need to share all

927
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 5: those links that you see in the corner. You need

928
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 5: to share those with everybody that you know and pump

929
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 5: up the numbers on this stream. Oh yeah, okay, send

930
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: people to therapy, get go, send people to Lyle Forever,

931
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 5: send them to these guys, to this guy's links, because

932
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 5: I want to see those numbers get bigger.

933
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: You guys, don't put me on while you're having the orgies,

934
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: do you.

935
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 6: Yet?

936
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: We will? Now?

937
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: Okay? Cool? Because I feel like if you're if you're

938
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: talking about sharing new people, yeah, that would get that,

939
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: that would bring up the numbers.

940
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

941
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you guys soon, right on.

942
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 5: Thank you, Lyle, Love you.

943
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like I blacked out for that entire call,

944
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: but I that's why I said I understood about eighty

945
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: five percent of it. Swinging sounds fun. I don't know.

946
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: I feel like that that could be interesting. I've never

947
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: been to an orgy before, but I would. I don't

948
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: know if I you'd have to get me there first.

949
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: You never know how you're gonna you never know how

950
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna react in any situation. Really, you can hypothesize,

951
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: but you never really know until you're there. I would

952
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: stand like if I I would observe an orgy, for sure,

953
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: I would observe one and be like, that's an orgy.

954
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't know if I would take

955
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: place in one. Just yet, I don't. I know. I

956
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: genuinely don't know. I wouldn't know if I'm there, but

957
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't know if I would, how

958
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: I would stumble upon one. I don't think I would

959
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: go actively seek one ounce, but I don't know. I

960
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: travel a lot, I go around places. The chances of

961
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: me stumbling upon one is not out of the question.

962
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: So who knows. Maybe one day I'll find out. But

963
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing the suit. Maybe i'll wear the suit.

964
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. All questions that maybe or maybe not

965
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: one day be answered goes on the line, making your

966
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: phone calls.

967
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: Every night, the.

968
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: Beacon goes to his hide. He's teaching you cloud in

969
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: the men of your life. Money's not ready an expert