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Speaker 2: It is what is today, Tuesday, February twenty, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 4: but sixty five days away and we're welcoming you into

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Speaker 4: Saq Wolchuck, I'm Kyle Yeoman's a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: lighter crew today. No Aisha, no Bobby Nobrian this week,

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Speaker 4: but we will possibly have Aisha back on Thursday, and

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Speaker 4: then we will keep on rolling with Bobby and Brian

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Speaker 4: as well Chris Beam in the back. There is a

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Speaker 4: couple weeks here, and we talked about this a little

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Speaker 4: bit on Talking Cowboys earlier a Zach. But this is

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Speaker 4: just the lull of the offseason because there's no free agency. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's no combine yet, there's no numbers to go off of.

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Speaker 4: It's just basically conversation week before we go to ending

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Speaker 4: next week. But there's not a whole lot going on.

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Speaker 4: But it's a chance for everybody to start watching a

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Speaker 4: lot of film, right it sure is.

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Speaker 5: We can all get caught up if you know, during

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Speaker 5: the super Bowl week, like we were out there in

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Speaker 5: Vegas is our station with one O five through the fans.

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Speaker 5: So now is a really good time to dive in

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Speaker 5: right before the combine. We're gonna get a lot of

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Speaker 5: new information for the combine as well. I think some

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Speaker 5: of the most fun is just what's going on with

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Speaker 5: the Bears. You know, you've got all the rumors with

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Speaker 5: the trade possibilities with the number one overall pick. Do

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Speaker 5: they want to maintain stuff with their quarterback? I feel

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Speaker 5: like much like last year with the Bears move that

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Speaker 5: going ahead and swapping from two to get up to one,

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Speaker 4: But I do think some of the trade.

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Speaker 5: Draft scenarios now are where things start to get a

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Speaker 5: little juicy and fun as we start to see some

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Speaker 5: of these mock drafts come out and all these trade possibilities. Really,

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Speaker 5: I think you're catching my eye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, if you're thinking about Chicago here and they

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Speaker 3: trade back to two, let's say Washington trades up to one,

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Speaker 3: they could still trade back and pick up more, so

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Speaker 4: The there are the great spots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have the world in the palm of their

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Speaker 3: hands going into this draft. I think it's a really

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Speaker 3: good point. I think a lot of the things that

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Speaker 3: we're still kind of answering questions with as far as

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Speaker 3: get there is what Chicago will do, and I think

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Speaker 3: there will be a huge trickle down effect as part

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Speaker 3: a really really important time for the Chicago front office

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Speaker 3: to get with some get with some people and see

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Speaker 3: what offers they like for both the number one overall

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Speaker 3: I would be shocked if that happens. But according to

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Speaker 5: All things in Atlanta is interesting. I mean, you know

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Speaker 5: they're in the business for a quarterback there as well.

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Speaker 5: And where they're sitting in the first round do they

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Speaker 4: Are they looking to.

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Speaker 5: Try and move from eight up into that top three?

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Speaker 5: And I think the Cowboys, and I know Brian has

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Speaker 4: We've talked about this a couple times already, the scenarios

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Speaker 4: that could play out whenever you are trading away and

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Speaker 4: the process. But I think it's very likely that you

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Speaker 4: a one year deal that's got to win now. But

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Speaker 4: down the line as well. I think you make that move.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to ask the question though, because you guys

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Speaker 4: are you taking the quarterback first? Whoever it may be?

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Speaker 4: In Drake May I mean Caleb Williams yea, his favorite.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking Caleb Williams. Yeah, because I think and I

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Speaker 5: wonder your thoughts on this, Nick, but I'm resetting, you know,

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Speaker 5: my rookie contract scale. I think you've seen and I

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Speaker 5: think Justin Fields has potential change of scenery. I don't

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Speaker 5: think Justin Fields is a bad player. Health has been

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Speaker 4: I think he is just that much more of a prospect. Ken.

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Speaker 4: Can you get a first round pick for Justin Fields?

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Speaker 5: Do you think you get a one? I think most

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think these teams Knew England, Arizona, La,

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Speaker 4: But what you can do is put stipulations in the trade,

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Speaker 5: You can put in the deal, but I don't know

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Speaker 4: Yattle, it's a quarterback, it's a starting quarterback. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that it really depends what team is,

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Speaker 3: Maybe gosh, I was thinking about Seattle. But if you're

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Speaker 3: But also any team that would be calling Chicago about

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Speaker 3: and they're just showing I know, they're showing everything.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm a little envious. You know, it'd be fun

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Speaker 5: right now to be part of that bear that bears

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Speaker 3: Because the first time you can say that while it is.

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Speaker 4: Because I mean and they got to hit on it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, trust me, they're in a situation where if

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Speaker 5: they end up fumbling the bag on this, You're gonna

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Speaker 4: So what is Yeah. Absolutely people are gonna be losing

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Speaker 4: their jobs. Yeah. I was about to say when it's

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Speaker 3: Fun decisions a lot of sleepless nights.

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Speaker 5: I do want to circle back as we talked about,

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Speaker 5: you know, the trade back scenario at twenty four, and

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Speaker 5: you said, like, okay, depending on who's on the board,

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Speaker 5: and you're right, I mean that there's certain players that

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Speaker 5: we've kind of looked at some of these mocks and

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Speaker 5: we get a feel for, like, realistically the options of

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Speaker 5: who could be there at twenty four for the Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: Are there some names that you know, Okay, depending on

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Speaker 5: who's this team that's calling, whether it's Indie, whether it's Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: I'm not moving on twenty four. I'm staying home and

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Speaker 4: I'm taking that pick.

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Speaker 3: Are you asking are you asking do you stay You're

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Speaker 4: Foot or what?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Who would be the players where you're staying at twenty four?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you look at between Fountain and Fatanu,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got him as a guard. I just think

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Speaker 5: He translates best to playing kicking inside and playing guard

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Speaker 5: But I looked at him and just from my tapes

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Speaker 4: I'm currently looking for his pronunciation guide. It's not easy.

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Speaker 4: But do you have anybody that you what is your

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't think that Fuaga is going

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Speaker 5: with you guys on Jackson, Powers, Johnson. I do love

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Speaker 4: Make that pick.

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Speaker 5: I would be oh my gosh, I love Amarus Mims

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Speaker 4: Absolutely before you get there.

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Speaker 3: And we've already talked about Miami's potential to jump on

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Speaker 4: Can something happen in free agency to shift that thinking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean absolutely. I think if what would it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you go ahead and maybe you sign one

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Speaker 5: You know that you have Tyrone Smith coming back, so

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Speaker 4: How do you feel if you resign the guys that

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Speaker 5: The first It wouldn't stop me because I think you

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Speaker 4: Have for the right answer, Zach.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm still and I got into an argument

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Speaker 5: But when you look back at the career and if

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Speaker 5: he will end up inevitably doing that because Tyrone has

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Speaker 4: Did you get him?

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Speaker 5: If he's your starting left tackle, are you gonna look

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Speaker 5: you're not going to care if you got yourself a

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Speaker 4: he said. From Mike McCarthy's standpoint, is he okay making

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Speaker 4: Tyron Smith, you're not going to see your first round

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Speaker 4: Would he be okay doing that? And my answer back

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Speaker 5: Right, I mean, if you have better replacements in place

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Speaker 4: It's a fair question, right, So I think it matters.

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Speaker 5: It matters for seeding all of these games we've seen

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Speaker 5: just want to take the best player. And I think

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Speaker 5: offensive linemen that's always a position that you can go

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Speaker 5: ahead and hit and it's going to strengthen your football team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've been really good at drafting off, really

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Speaker 5: They say, hey, this is a first round lineman, want

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Speaker 5: Being an Oro, get half.

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Speaker 4: Gibbs says if the Cowboys decided to re sign Pollard

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Speaker 4: to a team friendly deal, which running back in this

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Speaker 4: draft class would be the best compliment to Tony Pollard

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Speaker 4: in your opinion.

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Speaker 3: We've had this conversation on this show before. I think

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Speaker 3: there's a couple of guys, I know, the guy that

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Speaker 3: what we got to go with here, Bucky Irving. I

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Speaker 3: think there's so much that you can do with him,

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Speaker 3: and it would be the perfect transition period too. I

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Speaker 3: think if you were to bring back Pollard on a

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Speaker 3: one or two year deal, bring in Bucky Irving and

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Speaker 3: let him sit as the complimentary type guy for one

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Speaker 3: or two seasons, and it would not surprise me if

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Speaker 3: by the end of those one or two seasons Bucky

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Speaker 3: Irving is taking the majority of those snaps and being

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Speaker 3: the being the feature guy there. I think he's I

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Speaker 3: think he's going to be a player in this league

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Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I like Bucky Irving. I think that's definitely a good name.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think Trey Benson is the best running

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Speaker 5: back in the draft. If you were to take one

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Speaker 5: in the second round, I.

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Speaker 3: Agree with you. If you re signed Pollard, do you

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Speaker 3: do get Benson in the second though?

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Speaker 4: That's yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think it depends on how many years

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Speaker 5: is the polar deal? Is another one year contract?

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Speaker 4: Two? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I still think I'd be interested there,

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Speaker 5: But if not, I think you guys know. I do

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Speaker 5: like Audric Estime from Notre Dame. I think he's got

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Speaker 5: the perfect size. He's well built, strong, lower body, weaving

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Speaker 5: style of runner. He's good with his jump cuts. I

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Speaker 5: think he's a good player. And then to me, I'm

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Speaker 5: a big fan of Jalen Right from Tennessee. I just

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Speaker 5: always keep coming back to him and Ray Davis, the

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Speaker 5: running back from Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: But there's something.

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Speaker 5: About Jalen Wright that, you know, if you want to

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Speaker 5: go in the third or fourth round for either of

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Speaker 5: those guys, I think that they're going to excel at

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Speaker 5: the next level. Specifically Jalen Wright, who is in a

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Speaker 5: split backfield there at Tennessee. I think he's got good vision.

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Speaker 5: He is an explosive playmaker type of guy. I know,

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Speaker 5: maybe if you're looking at it, Okay, a compliment to Pollard.

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Speaker 5: Do you want maybe more of a physical, bruising type

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Speaker 5: of runner to Pollard who is the burner type, and

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Speaker 5: hopefully he gets that long speed back being in more

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Speaker 5: eyear removed after the injury.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just think that he's a guy that can catch

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Speaker 5: the ball in the backfield. I like jenlen Wright quite

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Speaker 5: a bit five eleven, two ten out of Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: I think another question to the same point is, let's

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Speaker 3: say that the Cowboys resigned Tony Pollard on a one

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Speaker 3: or two year deal. Does that give them a little

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Speaker 3: bit more flexibility to take a guy like Jonathan Brooks

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Speaker 3: who you might not have to begin the season, So

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Speaker 3: you can work in guys like Mullen, Davis, Stu's fond

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Speaker 3: in the beginning of the year, see what they can

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Speaker 3: bring from from that perspective, and then once you get

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Speaker 3: to beginning of October, you can really start to ramp

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Speaker 3: up Brooks and see what he can do. From a

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Speaker 3: complimentary standpoint with Pollard. Because we talked about on this show,

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Speaker 3: if you don't resign Pollard, you need a back that

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Speaker 3: can come in and play. Yeah, so you kind of

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Speaker 3: write off Brooks that from that perspective, if you're able

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Speaker 3: to resign Pollard, though, I think that gives you that

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Speaker 3: flexibility of Brian Brooks.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a great point. It would make me

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Speaker 5: feel much better about going for Jonathan brooks. S's that

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Speaker 5: could be a red shirt year and the Cowboys will

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Speaker 5: know their doctor did his surgery, so they'll know exactly

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Speaker 5: kind of where he's looking at. That's a great fit

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Brooks. I mean, if it weren't for the injury,

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Speaker 5: he might be my number one running back in the draft.

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Speaker 5: I think him and Benson are won two. The other

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Speaker 5: name that I'll throw out there if you just want

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Speaker 5: in terms of pure compliment, kind of a bigger back

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Speaker 5: next to Paulo would be Isaac Grendo, the running back

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Speaker 5: from Louisville who.

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Speaker 4: We got to see here at the start. That dude is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about him a little big subtle, but

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Speaker 5: I mean he moves so well for his size at

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Speaker 5: six one two twenty five bigger back, but he can

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Speaker 5: also catch the ball on the backfield.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of injury concerns there hamstring, and he's

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Speaker 3: had a list frank injury as well. That's same injury

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Speaker 3: that Jordan Lewis suffered a couple of years ago. But

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Speaker 3: a four year guy at Wisconsin before transferring to Louisville.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a guy that could be that third

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Speaker 3: down type of guy. But also he's got some legit speed,

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Speaker 3: like he does breakaway speed. He could be up back

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Speaker 3: at the next level. I think that could surprise some

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Speaker 3: people too. But I think he's a Day three guy.

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Speaker 3: You can get a lot of value from Greed.

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Speaker 4: Maybe not the day three value that you're talking about,

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Speaker 4: but I'm still I'm all over Korum from Michigan. But

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Speaker 4: I just think from a even though he's got the

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Speaker 4: the carries and the wear and the tear of going

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Speaker 4: through Big ten seasons and being the bell cow for

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Speaker 4: the National Championship Wolverines, I still think he would be

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Speaker 4: a fun compliment for Tony Pollard. And you're taking a

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Speaker 4: chance on a guy who had production in college and

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Speaker 4: is a completely different run style than what Tony Hot

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Speaker 4: Pollard brings to the tape. Sure, all right, let's play

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Speaker 4: this game again, says Red on Twitter. He says, what

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Speaker 4: would be your favorite same school draft combo for the

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys any round? But just two players coming from

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Speaker 4: the same university.

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Speaker 3: This is so easy for me. Jackson Powers, Johnson and

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Speaker 3: Buckie are.

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Speaker 4: Yeahang man, you love the Ducks, don't you?

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Speaker 3: In this draft class, absolutely, There's been other draft classes.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not Dan Lanning. I think he's doing something there

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Speaker 3: up in Eugene. You see what he was able to

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Speaker 3: do as far as developing defensive talent whenever he was

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Speaker 3: at or excuse me, at Georgia defensive coordinator under Kirby

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Speaker 3: Smart for a long period of time, whenever they were

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Speaker 3: starting that diners out there in Athens and bringing that

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Speaker 3: to Oregon. He brought a lot of personnel guys with

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Speaker 3: him to Georgia that had those same kind of philosophies

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Speaker 3: and mindsets, and they look for a specific type of

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Speaker 3: player and that translates to the offensive side of the

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Speaker 3: ball too. They get mean, nasty guys, physical guys, big

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Speaker 3: prototype type bodies, and they develop those guys at the

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Speaker 3: next level so well. So yeah, I trust where Oregon's

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Speaker 3: at right now.

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Speaker 4: Just for Funzi's which could really help this team a lot.

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Speaker 4: Let's go at T.

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Speaker 5: Sweat and Jalen Ford from the University of Texas. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I think you know if T Sweat. If you could

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Speaker 5: land him in the second round, maybe go Jalen Ford

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Speaker 5: in the third of the fourth. I'd be into that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Jalen Ford's a player. Senior Bowl invite, we

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Speaker 5: know he was out there a lot of experience. We

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Speaker 5: got to cover him there at Frisco Long Star. I

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Speaker 5: think T Sweat We've talked about a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he fits exactly what this team needs. They tried to

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Speaker 5: get it with Mazzie Smith, but tough guy to move.

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Speaker 4: I mean, heck, you could throw Byron Murphy in there

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 5: But Jalen Ford's a guy that I think two years

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Speaker 5: ago in terms of coverage, maybe the tape a little

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Speaker 5: bit better than this past year. But I think he's

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Speaker 5: a guy that can run with ty ends. You know,

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Speaker 5: sometimes he'll struggle to shed and get off some of

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Speaker 5: the bigger linemen consistently. But that's why you want to

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Speaker 5: have that T Sweat in front of him. Some of

654
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Speaker 5: those bigger bodies that really did a great job at

655
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: keeping him clean. High motor works towards the line of scrimmage.

656
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 5: Sure tackler big fan of Jalen Ford out of Texas

657
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 5: as well. I mean Texas has some guys we've had

658
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 5: drafts where they have had nobody taken. This year, you

659
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 5: look at the University of Texas and there's some players

660
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: that you really really like.

661
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: I think something very interesting about Jalen Four too. He

662
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: had an opportunity to come out as a junior. He

663
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: was getting Day two type of love at that point.

664
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 3: He's like, Hey, if you have a really good process,

665
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: really good combine, you can go out there. You could

666
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: possibly be a third round pick. Didn't have as great

667
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: of a year this past season, and that's not to

668
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: say he didn't have a good year at all, and

669
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: he was a really big part of that defense that

670
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: Texas put together behind defensive coordinator peek with Kowski, and

671
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: he was a big part of what they did from

672
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 3: just being able to kind of be a traffic cop

673
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: for the defense and manage everything and do what he

674
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: does in the second level. But I think there's still

675
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: a lot of value you can get there. Because he's

676
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: starting to slip to early Day three in this year's draft,

677
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: it's a little bit deeper at linebacker, So yeah, I

678
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: think there's not an opportunity to take a guy like

679
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: a Jayalen Four in the fourth or fifth and get

680
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: a really good value out of it.

681
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 5: I wish it was just a little more sold on

682
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 5: Van Pran out of Georgia. It's not like I don't

683
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 5: like him, but I'm not in love with him, because

684
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 5: then I could pair him with Bullard, my safety, who

685
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 5: I adore.

686
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: See I so initially I was going to make the

687
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: joke of Michigan just because of how that worked out

688
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: in the past, and everybody would just kind of make

689
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: the joke. There are two good Michigan players that you

690
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: that would help your football team. Junior Colson the linebacker,

691
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: and you've got Blake korm who we just mentioned it earlier.

692
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 4: That would be a fun little double dip. Guys.

693
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 5: Junior Colson's he's he's nice. I think he's my number

694
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 5: one line he.

695
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: Might be up there. I have him as number four

696
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: right now, mostly because I'm a coward. I need to

697
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: move him up though, I mean it's because I don't

698
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: want to put him above Peyton Wilson and Jeremiah Trotter

699
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: Junior because I love those two guys.

700
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 5: But Colson, why in fairness a right, Peyton Wilson is

701
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 5: my favorite linebacker, right and the only reason I've like

702
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: kind of you know, tapered off is because of the

703
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 5: medical issues with him.

704
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 4: It's that's kind of all of that.

705
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 5: But man, Junior Coulson and I get it, like there's

706
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 5: the phobia of the Michigan But he's big and you

707
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 5: watch him in that college football playoff and he is

708
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: running around with a club on his hand against Alabama

709
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 5: in the National Championship game against Washington and he is

710
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: making every single tackle and he can cover. He's a

711
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: three down player, which is important. You need to look

712
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 5: at that in today's game. Is he gonna be on

713
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 5: the field for two downs and you have to sub

714
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 5: ount nickel and dime packages. No, you can leave Junior

715
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: Colson out there. I've got a second round great on him,

716
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: but I do think he might be the best all

717
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 5: around linebacker in the draft.

718
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: I've got a second on him as well. It's like

719
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: a late second right now. I think he's a legitimate player.

720
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: The other one I was gonna say, though, was your

721
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: Georgia connection. Why not a Marius Mimsy and Lad mcconkley

722
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: at the second level the wide receiver.

723
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 5: Get get a little funzo at the end of it.

724
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: You know, McConkey is just hockey is he is so shifty.

725
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 5: I mean he played basketball as well in high school.

726
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: A smaller guy, right, So you look at the catch radius,

727
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: it's not quite there, but he is so quick. He

728
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: wins immediately off the line of scrimmage, the natural separation

729
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 5: and you look at these next gen stats that come

730
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: out in Ceedee Lamb. I think drank second in the

731
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 5: entire NFL when it came to separation, which is a

732
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 5: credit also to Mike McCarthy and some of the scheme

733
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 5: in the design that they're doing offensively. But Lad McConkie

734
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 5: has just a natural ability to look and he's got

735
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 5: three to five yards, he's wide open. He dominates over

736
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: the middle feast with those crossing rounds, which you know

737
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 5: the Cowboys really love. I mean Mems I said it

738
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: last week. Would it shock me if Amarus Mims we

739
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 5: look up four years from now and he's the best

740
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 5: tackle out of this class. No, he's got extreme talent.

741
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 5: The question is you look at seven eight games started,

742
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 5: but in those games where he played, he was playing

743
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: in high leverage situations.

744
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: Is really really good.

745
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 5: But Lad McConkie is a fun player and he can

746
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 5: be a factor on special teams and the hands. I mean,

747
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: he might have some of the best hands in the

748
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 5: entire class.

749
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

750
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: I think something very interesting about the receiver position in

751
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: regards to the Dallas Cowboys going into free agency, you

752
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: don't really have room right now to take a receiver

753
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: in the top three rounds. I think there should be

754
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: an emphasis going into free agency to be able to

755
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: have that flexibility after free agency reps. You would love

756
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: to be able to grab a receiver in the third

757
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: round and not feel like, oh God, we really got

758
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: to hit on this guy or else.

759
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: I'm looking at wins first pick, and I'm looking at

760
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: McConkie in the third.

761
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: That's kind of why mccaukie is not going to be

762
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: there in the third.

763
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: I've got him in the second two.

764
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: I don't think I think he could be a late first.

765
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: He could be a late first, early late one to

766
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: early second. I would take him early second, but the

767
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: late first it would not surprise.

768
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 9: Well.

769
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 5: It's interesting because a guy that got a ton of

770
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 5: love after the Senior Bowl was Roman Wilson from Michigan.

771
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: I think McConkie's better than Wilson. I think both of

772
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: really good, but I'd take McConkie over Wilson.

773
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think there's I've talked about.

774
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: I think I would put Wilson over him because of

775
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: the size. Yeah, I guyes a little bit and I

776
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: do like what he can do on the outside. Definitely

777
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: a better blocker. I think he's a catch radius in

778
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: separation probably mconkie. But in terms of size advantage, give me,

779
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: give me Wilson. All that can't argue that.

780
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked about in the third round that I

781
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: feel like there's going to be a runner receivers. You

782
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: look at guys like Brendan Rice, Roman, Wilson, which I

783
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: had an initial third before the Senior Bowl. Probably need

784
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: to go back and you know, adjust at Jamari Thrash

785
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: out of Louisville, Ricky Piersaw out of Florida, Malachi Corley

786
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: out of Western Kentucky. I mean, these are all guys

787
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: that you can look at in the third round and

788
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: see a legitimate possibility. Jayleen McMillan out of Washington. There's

789
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: there's a lot of talent I think you can find

790
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: there in the third man.

791
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 5: You take any one of those three Washington guys, you're

792
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: feeling pretty good. You can throw in there too. He's

793
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: really good. But I did love what you said about Coraley,

794
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 5: and Corley's another guy. I don't think it's getting past

795
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 5: the second round, but that dude can bawl. And then

796
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: you can throw in Malik Washington from Virginia, who we

797
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 5: got to see here at the East West Ryne Bowl,

798
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: and he's a guy that might be there on day

799
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 5: At the top of day.

800
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 4: Three, all right, our guy Coofax says, what one player

801
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: would you trade future picks to move up for in

802
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: the first round. So we talked about the opposite in

803
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: the first segment. It's more likely Dallas would trade back

804
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: and accumulate trip picks than they would to go get

805
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: a guy. But is there somebody that's up there that

806
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: you're saying, I, I've got to have them, and you

807
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: trade even your maybe you're only twenty five picks to

808
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: try and make it happen.

809
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: I don't think so, because I don't think so because

810
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: the tackle the tackle class is deep. I think you're

811
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: going into the draft with four or five options there

812
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: that you feel like could happen at twenty four. I

813
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: feel like you at least get one of those to

814
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: fall to twenty four unless the team is just really

815
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: dead set on getting a Jackson Powers Johnson type talent

816
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: at center. They don't resign, be oddish, and they feel

817
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: needy at that position. Then maybe you go ahead and

818
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: jump up and grab them. But I don't think you

819
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: jump up and grab anybody else from that perspective, I

820
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: think you wait and see what offensive lineman falls to

821
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: twenty four. If that's what you're set on doing, If

822
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: you're between trading up and sticking at twenty four, then

823
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: that's probably what you do.

824
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm probably not moving just because I do like

825
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: Graham Barton a lot. Now maybe they don't. Maybe they

826
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 5: look at Jackson Power shuns and they say, you know what,

827
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 5: Barton because of the medicals, whatever it is, we're not

828
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 5: viewing him in that same area. They don't like Zach

829
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 5: Frazier as much. They've got a big gap between ap

830
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 5: in the next center. Then I do think it's worth

831
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 5: it to move up a couple of spots and solidify

832
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: the middle of your offensive line. Otherwise, man, I think

833
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 5: you would just take one of these guys that you

834
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: don't think are gonna be there and they get close

835
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 5: to your range, Like if it's an OLU Fashanu, the

836
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 5: offensive tackle from Penn State Falls, who I think is

837
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 5: an elite prospect. I maybe consider moving up to go

838
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: get him. Otherwise, I think you're gonna stay put at

839
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: twenty four. I think you're in a really, really good

840
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 5: spot that you're gonna have a good player on the board.

841
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: I'm worried about for Shana without him.

842
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 4: I don't love he's maxed out.

843
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't love what he brings from

844
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: a run blocking perspective. Really, I think I think there's

845
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: a couple of lapses in past pro, but I think

846
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: his pass pro is is where he's strong at. I'm

847
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: a little I'm a little concerned about for Shana. There's

848
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 3: not anything on tape that jumps out to me about

849
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: for Shana. You look at Joe Alt, you look at

850
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: Telisi Fuaga, you see the power of the athleticism, and

851
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: not to say you don't see what the Fashanu too.

852
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: But I think this might be one of those first

853
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 3: round guys that has been on the first round board

854
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: for a while. And I don't know, I don't I

855
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: don't love for Shanu.

856
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 4: I just don't see. I think he could end up

857
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: being better than.

858
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: Joe Old, I don't love for Shan.

859
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 4: What do you have on him?

860
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: I don't have anything on him right now, but I

861
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: need to see him at Combine. I can't see how

862
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: he works. I want to see him at Pro Day.

863
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: I'm not giving like a final judgment on him, but

864
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: I don't I would not take for Shana right now.

865
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: Really, I don't know well.

866
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 5: I mean, he's play plays with two big old braces

867
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 5: on his knees, and he did get hurt his junior year.

868
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: But I think his bass.

869
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 5: I mean, he did not allow a sack in three

870
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty five snaps in twelve games his senior

871
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 5: seasons the past, and that's really And I think he's

872
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 5: good enough in the run game. I think he's got

873
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: some nasty to him now. He can get beat inside

874
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 5: that that's the way to get him. You can get

875
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 5: him on the inside. But to me, I think it

876
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 5: might be one of those tape studies like with Patrick Sartan,

877
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: who came out out of Alabama a couple of years ago,

878
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 5: where people are like he's just he's just clean. There's

879
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 5: nothing you watch and you're like, this guy wows me.

880
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: He watched a J. C.

881
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: Horn and it's like, Okay, he's a little bit more

882
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 5: sex last year. I just think Olu Fashanuho just gets

883
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 5: the job done.

884
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: And which one do you need in this organization somebody

885
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 4: that just gets the jumps on the job done. Yeah,

886
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: that's fair. I mean, just that's throwing it out there.

887
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 4: I like it, I really do, because not everybody sees

888
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: the same prospects the same way, and you could end

889
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: up being right about them. I hope you're not right

890
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: about them either.

891
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 3: I never wish on anyone. Yeah, I hope I'm wrong.

892
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, you probably don't bleep yourself such a lie.

893
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 4: You hope you're wrong too.

894
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: I'm a hater.

895
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Speaker 4: You brought this up a little bit earlier, and we

896
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Speaker 4: got one more question here on Twitter on the twenty

897
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: and this one says, could the Cowboys go offensive heavy

898
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: in the draft and use free agency that fill the

899
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 4: voids defensively? I kind of want to modify the question

900
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 4: a little bit. Do you feel like it's more likely

901
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: they go defensive heavy in the draft or defensive heavy

902
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: and free agency as opposed to going offensive heavy and

903
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 4: free agency.

904
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: Well, when I think about that, and I think about possibilities,

905
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 3: I think about the linebacker position. So and I don't

906
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: feel like you can if you sign every linebacker you

907
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: love agency, I still feel like you gotta go draft one.

908
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: So linebacker position, you're gonna have to draft one defensive tackle.

909
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: There's an opportunity to bring Hankins back, and if you

910
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: if you bring back Jonathan Hankins, then you know there's

911
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: not as necessarily as big of a need to get

912
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: another one in the draft, especially early on. Yeah, this

913
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: is a good defensive tackle class. If you want to

914
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: take one of those first couple of days, man, you

915
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: might be able to hit on one. But is it

916
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: asking would that be a comfortable scenario, basically going heavy

917
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: defense in free agency and then focusing on offense in

918
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: the draft.

919
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: I think it's which one's more likely to happen. It's

920
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: not necessarily a comfortability, but what would you believe is

921
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: more comfortable for this team?

922
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, going going offense heavy in the in the draft,

923
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: for sure. I mean that makes sense. You got to

924
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: get an offensive lineman, ye in the first couple of

925
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: rounds at least you're hoping that you know, there's a

926
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: running back that gets taken pretty early as well. Wouldn't

927
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: be surprised if there's a receiver on Day three that

928
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: gets taken. So, yeah, you would, you would have to

929
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: look at that for sure.

930
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

931
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: I do think defense is the move in free agency

932
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 5: because I think there's some tackles and some linebackers. But

933
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 5: I agree, I don't think that that means, Okay, if

934
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 5: I fill this need in free agency, I'm not addressing

935
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 5: it in the draft at all. Yeah, And I wonder

936
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: with your new coach that you have is Mike Zimmer

937
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: and we've seen them in the past, whether it was

938
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn when he came in or whatever defensive coordinator is,

939
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: they will it seems like, take some input of what

940
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 5: are some guys you want here? So could that end

941
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 5: up being all right, we're gonna be a little bit

942
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 5: more defensive heavy in some areas, I think potentially. I

943
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: think the first round for me is going to be

944
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 5: an offensive player and then there'll be a running back selected.

945
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: The rest of the draft could definitely be defense, and

946
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 5: that would not surprise me.

947
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: Do you think there's a need for a receiver in

948
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 3: Day three?

949
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: I think there is.

950
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I absolutely think they needed a receiver in Day

951
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: three if they wanted to take a receiver earlier, because

952
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 5: I think there's going to be a run in the

953
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 5: second round. If they looked at one of these second

954
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 5: round receivers and said, you know what, we need to

955
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 5: take our guy here. We've got him graded, he's the

956
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: best player available, I would not be upset with it.

957
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 5: And I also think that we've talked about it. Corners

958
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 5: a sneaky need for this football team. And then I

959
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 5: wonder about safeties. Mike Zimmer loves to do a lot

960
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 5: with his safeties, puts a lot on their plate. We

961
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: saw with Harrison Smith in Minnesota, and there are some

962
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 5: safeties you watch in this draft class. We've mentioned several

963
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 5: of them. Jayden Hicks last week, Javon Bullard I think

964
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: could fill that, Cameron Kitchens from Miami. Some of those

965
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 5: guys that you look at and I think, like, dang it,

966
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 5: Mike Zimmer's probably going to really really like this dude.

967
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 5: So safety and corner I think are also two positions.

968
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if they addressed as well.

969
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Day three receiver that I think would be the perfect

970
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: fit for the Dallas Cowboys Jordan Whittington out of Texas. Yeah,

971
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: former five star guy out of Cuero down in Central

972
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: Texas want a state championship down there with them with

973
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: the Gobblers. But he's physical and long speed. He battled

974
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: a lot of injuries his first few years in Austin,

975
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: and I think that kind of stunted his development from

976
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: a certain standpoint, and they kind of recruited around him

977
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: or recruited over him. They brought in Xavier Worthy, they

978
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: went in the portal and grabbed ad Mitchell. Those are

979
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: two receivers that we see at the top of this draft,

980
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: but I think Jordan Whittington, had he had the opportunity

981
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 3: to be a feature receiver in this offense this past season,

982
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: we would be talking about him in same light. I

983
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: really do believe that he's got legit speed with a

984
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: big frame that he has, super physical, He can make

985
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: those contested catches. We saw him make a huge catch

986
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: in that final drive that Texas had in that semi

987
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: final game that got them in position to potentially win it.

988
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: And I think where it becomes a really even more

989
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: emphasized perfect fit for the Dallas Cowboys. We see what

990
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: happened last year whenever CJ. Goodwin went down. From a

991
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: special team's perspective, yeah, I think Jordan Wddington is going

992
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: to be a special team's demon at the next level

993
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: from a gunner as a gunner, so I think instead

994
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: of Jalen Tolbert or Sam Williams that you're rolling out there,

995
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: you can trust Jordan Winnington to go out there. He's

996
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: a high IQ guy, high character guy. I think he'd

997
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: be perfect for this team.

998
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: I think you nailed when it comes to Jordan winning Team.

999
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 5: The only issue is the injury history, right, He's the

1000
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 5: guy that just struggled to stay healthy.

1001
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: But he did.

1002
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: And I do think if you're looking at a guy

1003
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: that you want to hit and take a flyer on

1004
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: and on day three, he's certainly at the top of

1005
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 5: the list. There's no question about that. And I love

1006
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 5: the special teams versatility that brings as well. When you

1007
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 5: go back and watch that state championship performance will not

1008
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 5: really necessarily go but that is one of the best

1009
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: I've ever seen it.

1010
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: It's probably it's probably probably the best state championship incredibly.

1011
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: Actually Number one is probably Jonathan Brooks, and then two

1012
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: is probably Yeah.

1013
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Speaker 4: Welcome in the Friday Night Stars. Everybody glad you're with us, No,

1014
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1015
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Speaker 4: on the twenty. But when we come back, I want

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Speaker 4: to talk a little bit about the safeties. You talked

1017
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Speaker 4: about that as a sneaky need. We've hit safeties a

1018
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Speaker 4: couple times before, but could free agency possibly play a

1019
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Speaker 4: factor into that as well? In which safeties do you

1020
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Speaker 4: expect to show out in Indianapolis at the combine? Who's

1021
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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show.

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Speaker 4: Back. You're on the Draft Show, wrapping things up here

1068
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Speaker 4: on this Tuesday, sixty five days away from the NFL

1069
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Speaker 4: Draft in Detroit, Michigan. Back alongside Zach Woldchuck and Nick Harris.

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Speaker 4: glad you're with us here on the Draft Show. We

1073
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Speaker 4: talked a little bit about this earlier. Zach, you said

1074
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 4: safety a sneaky need for this Cowboys team. Jay Ron

1075
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: Curse is an undrafted or an unrestricted free agent. There's

1076
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Speaker 4: lots of question marks around the safety position now that

1077
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Speaker 4: Dan Quinn has taken the job. In Washington, we talked

1078
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Speaker 4: about some of these top end safeties Tyler Newman from Minnesota,

1079
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Speaker 4: Cameron Kitchens from Miami, Kayln Bullock from USC Javon Bullard

1080
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Speaker 4: from Georgia as potentials there. I want to know who's

1081
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 4: gonna light it up from a team speed standpoint, from

1082
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: a combine standpoint, anybody jump off the page, and what

1083
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 4: we can expect next week in Indy.

1084
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 5: I mean, I do think Bullock should run well, yeah,

1085
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: that was my first guy, right like Bullock should should

1086
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 5: be a guy now, and I think he's a corner

1087
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 5: like for me, I'm not I'm not a fan of

1088
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 5: Kaylen Bullock at safety. He's just too darn skinny and

1089
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 5: I don't think he tackles well. So I would feel

1090
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 5: three to ninety Yeah, I'd feel very nervous about playing

1091
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: him in the back end or I mean, look, you

1092
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 5: can move him in, maybe he can slide in on

1093
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: Nickel packages and play some corner, but I'd probably move

1094
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: him to the outside. I think he's a guy that

1095
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 5: could run in the four fourth. I think my guy

1096
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 5: Javon Bullard, who is a little bit of a shorter

1097
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: dude at five ten. I think he could run really,

1098
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: really well. I'm excited to see Tyler Nuban though. Tyler

1099
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 5: Nuban I think could make some money if he ends

1100
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 5: up running sub four or five. I think he's a

1101
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 5: dude that is going to end up maybe being the

1102
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 5: first safety off the board there from Minnesota.

1103
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: He's my number one safety by it.

1104
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 5: And I can see that right because he's one of

1105
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 5: the most complete players that you've got at that position.

1106
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 5: Those are some of the guys that I'm excited And

1107
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 5: then of course there's Cooper dejan from Iowa, who I

1108
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 5: do think is a corner but some people might view

1109
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 5: as a safety. I think he could play either. You

1110
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 5: saw him just be an absolute special team star there.

1111
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 5: Potential first round pick. How does he end up testing

1112
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 5: as well there in Indianapolis. Those are some guys that

1113
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 5: would kind of keep my eye on. Cooper gen Dejeene

1114
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 5: d Gen, I like Dejeon. I think I play it

1115
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 5: that way too. I was like, maybe he's not French.

1116
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: Though the gene just doesn't sound as good. Gene.

1117
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 5: We're gonna have to have a talk with you, Cooper, Hey,

1118
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 5: can we switch this to dejeon de Jon?

1119
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: I know you love Javon Bullard and I do too.

1120
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: I think he's a really good safety. I think he's

1121
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 3: a guy that can go comfortably. Day two.

1122
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: I thought you're gon, dude a little bit.

1123
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna test well.

1124
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: You don't.

1125
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: I don't think he's.

1126
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: Gonna You don't think he will run well good forty times?

1127
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Yeah, I don't think he's gonna test well.

1128
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: So that's fine. Slide a little bit. I'm okay with

1129
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: getting a little defensive their first place.

1130
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: We're about to find out about the cage matches.

1131
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: That's my one guy. I can't.

1132
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 5: I cannot take any slander on him. I'm telling you

1133
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 5: he's gonna be a step I.

1134
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: Think he's good though. I think there's some guys that

1135
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: have instincts that overcome a lack of athleticism or lack

1136
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: of speed in other areas. I'm trying to think one

1137
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: off the top of my head.

1138
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: I can't.

1139
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: There you go, Javon Bullard feels like one of those

1140
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: guys that will just be able to carry on instincts

1141
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: and carry on his football knowledge and what he does

1142
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: from that defensive backfield. Love what he does. Here's kind

1143
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: of a later guy I think into comfortably into day three,

1144
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: Keaton Ola Dappo from Oregon State. He was a senior

1145
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: ole guy, really lengthy. That was the thing that kind

1146
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: of took me away. And he's able to cover a

1147
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: lot of range as a result, and he ran really

1148
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 3: well too, and being able to get to the ball

1149
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: and fly to the ball. He's a guy that affected

1150
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: the game at all three levels. At Oregon State. He

1151
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: was getting sacks, tackles for loss, and then he was

1152
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: also getting interceptions and pass deflections on the back end.

1153
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: He's a guy that I love as a three level

1154
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: type of defender, and that's what you love to see

1155
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: from the safety position. And I know I've talked about

1156
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: it with Tyler Newman about how he can approach the

1157
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: running game and get into the backfield and identified it

1158
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: so early on. I think Oladappo has those same type

1159
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: of instincts, but maybe a little bit more of aggressiveness

1160
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: from Ola Dappo that kind of allows him to throw

1161
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 3: himself out of the play at times. So I think

1162
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 3: that's why you're probably looking at day three value there.

1163
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: But if you're looking for a guy that could probably

1164
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: test pretty well, I think Ola Dapo is going to

1165
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: be one of them.

1166
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: And you're talking about these later picks. I don't know

1167
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 4: if this guy even is categorized as a later pick,

1168
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: but I want to talk about him maybe late day two.

1169
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 4: Jayla's Hunt from Houston Christian. Okay, what do you guys

1170
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: know about him? Six foot three, two hundred and fifty pounds.

1171
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: He played at Houston Christian, so he's not too far

1172
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: down the road. Is this somebody that smaller school, smaller competition,

1173
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 4: but he's starting to gain some real momentum here since

1174
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl, since going into to Combine time got

1175
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 4: an invite. Is what are you looking for for him?

1176
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1177
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: So Jaylex Hunt, he was out of Florida and was

1178
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: initially a corner coming out of coming out of high

1179
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: school Houston Christian under their head coach Braxton Harris. He

1180
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: came over from Campbell really good developer as far as

1181
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: being able to identify guys that might be able to

1182
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: find some sort of positional change. So he went to

1183
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: Cornell as a corner oddly enough, and then went to

1184
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: Houston Christian and they beefed him up and put him

1185
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: on the edge, added like forty pounds to his frame

1186
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: six foot four. Hey, we're going to add some weight

1187
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 3: to your frame. We think you can be aggressive as

1188
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: a pass rusher. That's exactly what happened, and he went

1189
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: to Houston Christian in two seasons, was really productive down

1190
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 3: there for the Huskies. Obviously not playing in the best

1191
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: of competition in the Southland, but I think there's an

1192
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: opportunity for him to be able to go to the combine,

1193
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: be able to kind of pair what he did at

1194
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl against some really good competition to make

1195
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: some things happen. He had some reps against Tyler Guidan

1196
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: out of Ooklahoma at the Senior Bowl where he was

1197
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: really able to flash. He is athletic, he is violent.

1198
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 3: He's a guy that I found midway through the season

1199
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 3: last year and I just kind of tracked as the

1200
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: year went on. He's a really fun guy that I

1201
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: think he won't be ready year one, but I think

1202
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: once you get him developed he could he could. He

1203
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: has a very high ceiling, thirty four inch arms.

1204
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: Thirty four inch arms that everybody at home might be asking,

1205
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: why are we talking about an edge rusher in a

1206
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: safety segment because he played safety initially, and that's not

1207
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 4: an intro like, that's not a normal transition. You're going

1208
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: to play corner like you said corner at Cornell, then

1209
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 4: he plays a little bit of safety. Now he's playing

1210
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: edge rusher like. It's one of the more intriguing conversations

1211
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 4: of the entire draft. And is he gonna play safety

1212
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: at the next level at six three, two hundred and

1213
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: forty eight pounds. No, he's not playing safety. But will

1214
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: he rush off the edge and have some nimbleness to

1215
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: his game and doing so? Absolutely so. It's a fun,

1216
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: I think thing to look at whenever you're talking about

1217
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: a guy who's making a position switch that's not normally

1218
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: seen at the next time, if the any viewers are

1219
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: out there are more curious about diving into Jaylex Hunt,

1220
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: go look at his game against Lamar on September thirty

1221
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 4: I of this past season. Okay, good to know any

1222
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 4: other safeties that Dallas could be maybe looking at. Whenever

1223
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 4: you go into a day two, day three standpoint ooh,

1224
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 4: day two day three for safety.

1225
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 5: I mean I wonder about you know, you've got some

1226
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 5: local guys from TCU, like Bud Clark, is an interesting player.

1227
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: A Keen Dent from Florida State is another name that's interesting.

1228
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 5: Yet he's a guy that I've liked. A couple of

1229
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 5: forced fumbles that I've watched on tape from him. I

1230
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 5: think he's a good athlete. Six one, two oh three.

1231
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 5: I wonder what he's going to run. And then I

1232
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 5: know Bo Brady's been brought up. I think i ushuld

1233
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 5: brought him up out of Maryland as well. That could

1234
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 5: go day three tackling machine. You know, six passes that

1235
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: he broke up last year, a couple of interceptions as well.

1236
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 5: I think Bo Brady's an intriguing prospect. And then Vaki

1237
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 5: the safety from Utah is another name that I've seen

1238
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 5: some people are really really high on as well, that

1239
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 5: could go in that range.

1240
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 4: Tell me about him. A little bit six foot to eight.

1241
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he might be a little bit shorter to

1242
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 5: what you're looking at, but I think he's a guy

1243
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 5: that can go fourth, fifth round. Two passes defended. I

1244
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 5: think he had fifty tackles last last year, a three

1245
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 5: passes broken up. You know, he was a guy that

1246
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 5: I think he was out there for the Senior Bowl.

1247
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if you got to get eyes on

1248
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 5: him out there, but I think he had a decent

1249
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 5: week of practice and when you were watching him in

1250
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 5: some individual drills, he stood out to me and it

1251
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, this guy can move a pretty well.

1252
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 5: And granted he's not the super tall guy like we

1253
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: talked about Bullock from USC, but Vaki is a player

1254
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 5: that I think versus the runt could be could be

1255
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 5: strong there as a safety.

1256
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever I was looking at Utah safeties at the

1257
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl, Colt Bishop was the guy that I really Yes,

1258
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 3: Cocky's good, but I liked what.

1259
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: Brought to the scene, which is probably better.

1260
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: And I think that's that's a fun late day to

1261
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: early day three value that you can look at foot one,

1262
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: two hundred and eight pounds and he's a game manager

1263
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: back there in the.

1264
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 4: Well and bitch also blitzes.

1265
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: I mean he's a guy that got some pressure on

1266
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 5: the quarterback to Yeah, cold Biship's overall a better player.

1267
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 4: Is there? Just from an overall standpoint? Whenever you're looking

1268
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 4: at this safety class, is this a short lived safety class?

1269
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like we're we're tossing around the

1270
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: same ten to twelve names that are going to be

1271
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 4: taken throughout the weekend.

1272
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're probably right. Does but those but

1273
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 5: those players are good. I mean, the top end of

1274
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 5: this thing I think is really really good. You're gonna

1275
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 5: get some. But you're right, it does not stretch like

1276
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 5: we talk about with receiver some of these other spots.

1277
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: There you go, anything else? Anybody want to do any?

1278
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 4: Tell me more? What was the best player you watched

1279
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: this week?

1280
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 6: Man?

1281
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, gosh, that's a that's a tough one.

1282
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: Let me let me let me break this.

1283
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 5: Can I give you guys a player that I wasn't

1284
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 5: ready as as a big of a fan on as

1285
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 5: some others are. I mean, do you guys like Marshawn

1286
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 5: Neiland the Edge from Western Michigan.

1287
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: I see I like him at Senier Bowl, And I

1288
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: went into Senior Bowl thinking, Okay, the G five guy.

1289
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: I love seeing the G five guys that are getting

1290
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: those day one, day two.

1291
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 6: Love.

1292
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: Okay, what are they doing to dominate at that level?

1293
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: I didn't see that from his film. I love him

1294
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: at Seniors Okay.

1295
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so and maybe he's a guy you get up

1296
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 5: close and personal with and but you watch the tape.

1297
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Speaker 5: For me, I was expecting to jump out and I

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Speaker 5: wanted to see somebody that dominated against the Central Michigan's

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Speaker 5: when you play there, because he's an edge out of

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Speaker 5: Western Michigan sixty three two sixty eight. You know, I

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Speaker 5: think he's one of those He ran track in high school,

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Speaker 5: All conference high jumper as well. You know, he's athleticism

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Speaker 5: translate on translates on tape. He's quick off the ball,

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Speaker 5: lots of hand fakes to set up linemen. On his

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Speaker 5: rush the bull rush, he can push tackles back into

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Speaker 5: the lap of the quarterback. But to me, he's one

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Speaker 5: of those guys where he kind of rushes himself out

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Speaker 5: of running lanes a little bit, gets knocked on the ground,

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Speaker 5: doesn't always set the edge when you want him to.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't as high on Marshawn Neland as I was

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Speaker 5: expecting to be after watching him, But maybe I need to,

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Speaker 5: you know, see how he tests and interviews in some

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Speaker 5: of these individual workouts as well with some teams.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he ends up raising his stock a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You know. It's funny you mentioned the Senior Bowl specifically,

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Speaker 4: and there were times in those practices where he was

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Speaker 4: shedding blocks. That's not what he did on his film. No,

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Speaker 4: he struggled to get off of blocks in this film.

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Speaker 4: And then whenever you got him to the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 4: and let's say the game at that point, you're trying

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Speaker 4: to make money as a small school guy, like you said,

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Speaker 4: you're going with an added emphasis of Hey, they say

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Speaker 4: you can't shed blocks, you gotta shed blocks. Can't he

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Speaker 4: do that in game time action at the NFL level?

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Speaker 4: I kind of I have a little bit of pause

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Speaker 4: on that, but the way that he was able to

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Speaker 4: do it at the Senior Bowl shows that it's possible.

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Speaker 5: And he looks small. I mean, he's the guy that

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Speaker 5: I think is going to need to get a little

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Speaker 5: bit strong.

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Speaker 4: Not very long. No, he doesn't have a ton of length.

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Speaker 5: There's some traits there you look at the quickness, but

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Speaker 5: not as high on him as I think others are.

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a guy that I really enjoyed out of

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl and was able to watch more over

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Speaker 3: the course of the last week. And I think I

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Speaker 3: may have mentioned him on the show already, but I

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Speaker 3: want to dive into him a little bit more. Jamary

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Speaker 3: thrash receiver out of Louisville man If. He's almost an

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Speaker 3: exact proto a prototype of Jalen Tolbert, like they have

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Speaker 3: very very similar traits. He's not the tallest guy in

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Speaker 3: the world, but he can still go up and grab it.

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Speaker 3: He's really decisive in his route running. He can make

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Speaker 3: some things happen in the short to intermediate game. He

1346
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Speaker 3: was a transfer out of Georgia State and was really

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Speaker 3: productive for a Georgia State in his junior season. He

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Speaker 3: was an All American Honorable mention coming out of his

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Speaker 3: junior year, transferred to transferred to Louisville and still had

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Speaker 3: an eight hundred and fifty plus yard season. Was really

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Speaker 3: good with the Cardinals. That was a really good offense

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Speaker 3: this past year and he was one of the feature

1353
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Speaker 3: weapons in that offense. Shined at the Senior Bowl. He's

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Speaker 3: physical in route running. He made DB's guests. That's what

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Speaker 3: I put as the notes as far as coming out

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Speaker 3: of his performance and mobile. I think he's a third

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00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 3: round guy comfortably that could really shine. I think in

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00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 3: the right system. Get him in a system where the

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Speaker 3: offense has really spread out, they get a lot of

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00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: things going west Coast type of system, and I think

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Speaker 3: he could he could really thrive at the next level, thriving,

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Speaker 3: thrash the show, Thank you ever put.

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Speaker 4: Him as a thumb nail, and then the end of

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Speaker 4: it all cool? All right, Well that does it for

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Speaker 4: us here on the Draft Show. We'll be back on Thursday,

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Speaker 4: eleven am Central Time to break it all down for

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Speaker 4: you and keep you rolling. We're gonna do some mock

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Speaker 4: drafts on Thursday. We're gonna do some scenario driven mock draft.

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Speaker 3: Sweet right, Yes.

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Speaker 4: That was the plan, and we're gonna put together some

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Speaker 4: free agency, a mock free agency, and that see how

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Speaker 4: that changes things for the Cowboys to move forward. All right,

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00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 4: that's what we're doing Thursday. So we got a lot

1374
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 4: to look forward to. Hopefully we'll have Ayisha and Bobby

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Speaker 4: back in the fold as well. Brian on vacation this.

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Speaker 5: Week and then he's gonna be in uh surprise, in Arizona,

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Speaker 5: Arizona for.

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Speaker 4: Spring training next week. So won't see Brian for a

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Speaker 4: little bit. But guess what, you're covered. We got you

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Speaker 4: going for the next couple of weeks, and then he'll

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Speaker 4: be back for the Draft Show right after spring training.

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Speaker 4: After that, so that's the plan for the Draft Show

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Speaker 4: moving forward. For Chris Beem, Nick Harris, Zach Walchuk, I'm

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Speaker 4: Kyle Yoma saying so long. We'll see you next week.

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