1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty. Do you identify with one particular party 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: or the other and if you do, how do you 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: reach kind of everybody? 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, thankfully it's a non partisan race. But if there 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: was a letter next to my name, it would be 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 4: an R. But that R would stand for results. I'm 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: coming in here with no tribal politics. I'm coming here 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: to represent all Angelinos at. 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: Spencer Pratt, reality star and fed up Angelino running for 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: the mayor of the great City of Los Angeles and 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 3: getting a hell of a lot of attention for several 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 3: different reasons. Mark Alpern predicts he's going to be the 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: Pratt will be the next mayor of la Oh is 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: that right? Yeah? 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, his house burnt down, mister Pratt, that's part of 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 5: his appeal. Look, my house burnt down and they ain't 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 5: doing nothing. 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impossible to rebuild in spite of Gavin Newsom 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: and Karen Bass's utterly horrifically dishonest and unfulfilled promises. Yeah, 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: and you know. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 5: I don't want to get sidetracked. But do you know 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 5: why did they cancel the debate tomorrow night? No idea, 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 5: some weirdness. I have to look into that, no idea. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, he has been doing great in the debates. 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: He's a colorful character. His manner of speaking is entertaining. 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 5: But an entertaining reality star, you say in politics, you say. 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 3: But his sincerity is nobody can doubt it. I don't 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: think about concern for his city. And we're coming up 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: perhaps the boomerangiust backlashiest ad in the history of politics 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: run against him. But we'll just start with Ady Michael. 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: Here he is doing podcast talking about, you know, problems 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: you wants to fix. 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: So when I'm mayor, my plan is, first three weeks, 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: signs up across the city. No more nakedness, no more 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 4: drug use, no more robbing, no worse it, no more 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 4: burning dogs in history, no more dog abuse, very on 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: every sign on everywhere. 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 3: So that and we're gonna go around. 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna warn everybody. Hey, get three more weeks of 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: this clock's ticking. Just keep telling everyone, just so the 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: people that are aware, they're like, oh wow. 45 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: There's a new mayor in town. 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: They may start leaving, and then when the three weeks 47 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 4: or maybe we'll even do two weeks, maybe people will 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: want it faster, and then once we start enforcing the laws, 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: boom streets. 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: We'll be back. That's the flip side of the clip 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: we played for you last week of a drug addict 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: in Seattle. He was testifying in front of I think 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: it was the city council, but he was saying, the 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: reason there are so many drug addicts here, and I 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: was one for years is because you make it so 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: easy and comfortable to be a drug addict and nobody 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: gets arrested for breaking the law. If you're a drug addict, 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: you can just laugh at the law. Stop doing that, Seattle. 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: That's what Spencer Pratt is saying about Los Angeles. 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: I wish we could get Spencer Pratt and Armstrong and 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 5: Getty T shirt that says enforce the law, since that's 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 5: what he's running on right. 63 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it works. You know the LA's Well, this 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: is kin gonna make a joke about San Francisco. Hilly, 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: your cousin to the north. San Francisco elected Mayor Lourie, and. 66 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 5: I assume all they did to make you know you 67 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 5: go to Union Square and walk around. 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: Now you don't see a homeless person. They just enforced 69 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: the law. 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 5: They said you can't be here right Where am I 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 5: supposed to go somewhere else? 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: Which is what I've been advocating for here. Yeah, the tenderloin, 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: which is its own problem. But I think it is 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: absolutely defensible that a city prioritize, you know, its sections 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: as kind of all ye, a midway measure. You got 76 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: to start somewhere. Absolutely, yeah, all right. 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: Next cliff people forget is they can't lower the costs 78 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: of goods. The only thing you can do to make 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: things more affordable as mayor, which I will be able 80 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: to do, is put more money in people's pockets. We 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: need to put more revenue in the city. 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: We're over here. 83 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 4: They're always asking me, how are you going to balance 84 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: this budget? Spencer, There's gonna be no money to do us. 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: We should be the number one city in the world. 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: We should have money shooting out of ATMs. We're Los Angeles. 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: There will be plenty of money when we let the 88 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: systems work, when we let business work. 89 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: How can you let business work. 90 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 4: If you have drug addicts going number two and number 91 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: one in front of every cafe. We lost over one 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: hundred restaurants in la not because they weren't good food, 93 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 4: because you have drug addicts scaring people to go out. 94 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: He's running against Karen Bass, utterly cynical, political hack, slave 95 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: of the unions, you know, et cetera, and a Democratic 96 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: socialist by the name of Nithia Raman Ramen. 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 5: So there were there was supposed to be yet an 98 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 5: other mayoral debate tomorrow night, and I just kept reading 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 5: how it collapsed because everybody was unavailable. 100 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: But that seems to be the case. 101 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: I don't know how you're not available, like you schedule 102 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 5: something else the night of a debate, but current Mayor 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 5: Bass is not available, including Pratt, who said he's got 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 5: a scheduling conflict, so they just canceled the debate. I 105 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 5: thought when I originally heard it that, well, of course 106 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 5: Mayor Bass doesn't want a debate to happen because Pratt's 107 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: doing really well all the time, and it just lets people, hey, 108 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: that guy wants to enforce the law and get the 109 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: drug addicts off the street, and she doesn't want anybody 110 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 5: here in right. But anyway, the debate fell apart. 111 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: Let's skip to eighty four, Michael. 112 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: My first one hundred days is going to be enforcing 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: the law and making moms feel safe with their kids 114 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: at parks in front of their schools. You cannot give 115 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 4: zombies these Yes, they were human beings, but once you 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: go on fentanyl or super meth, you're no longer a 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: human being. It's not about we need more beds, not 118 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 4: inside safe, not more fable house even No, we need 119 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: medical mandatory treatment. 120 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: That is so clearly true. We've been saying this, by 121 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: the way, for many, many years. 122 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 5: But I don't know what the answer is for somebody 123 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 5: whose brain is fried and they're standing on the corner 124 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 5: stealing from you and threatening you. 125 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is. But letting them 126 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: hang out there is not the answer, right right. Enforced 127 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: the law, Yeah, yeah, Unless you're part of the cult 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: of suicidal empathy, all these things are utterly clear to you. 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: And it's suicidal empathy partly because it gets you hurt 130 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: and killed and deteriorates your city. But it's also homicidal empathy. 131 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: And a number of folks on the center left have 132 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: woken up to this and are speaking out about it. 133 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: Easing a young person into death on the pavement is 134 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: not compassion, making it easy to be drug addict until well, 135 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: finally they overdose on fentanyl and nobody's around with the narcan, 136 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: or if you overdose on other stuff, nark can't bring 137 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: you around. That's not compassion. And what twisted sick conscience? 138 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: Is that seen as compassion? Then I promised you the 139 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: BOOMERANGI anti ad This is just part of it. It was. 140 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: It's entirely financed by the public employee unions who own 141 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: the City of Los Angeles government, along with a couple 142 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: of progressive organizations that get paid by them. In the 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: state government of California. 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Republican Spencer Pratt is the last thing Los Angeles needs 145 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: for mayor, and Pratt opposes using taxpayer money to build 146 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: brand new houses for unhoused neighbors. Pratt thinks LA needs 147 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: thousands more police officers rather than more social workers. And 148 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Republicans Spencer Pratt thinks public employee unions should have less power. 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: Ah, he does. Well, when's voting day? How soon? Can 150 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: I vote early? Can I vote twice? Probably? That's supposed 151 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: to be a knock. That's an attack. Ad Wow had 152 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: the scary music. That's how you can tell wow, I 153 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: had the scary violins, the violins of nestiness. Wow. I'm 154 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: heartened to hear Halpern say he's got a real shot, 155 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 3: because I'd heard that in the polls it wasn't nearly 156 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: as impressive as the buzz. But local polling is notoriously unreliable, right, yeah, yeah. 157 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 158 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, because we all know how awful lot of national 159 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 5: polls have been in the sample size and the methodology 160 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 5: and the money spent to try to come up with 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 5: good numbers, way beyond anything you get in one. 162 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: City, right, right, It will be interesting to see what 163 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: sort of skullduggery takes place electorally, vote harvesting, harvesting stories 164 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: and papering apartment complexes with ballots and then not really 165 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: checking signatures. That sort of thing. Well, enforce the law. 166 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: I have another comment on that, but I'll tell you 167 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 5: about that after tell you about simply Safe, which you 168 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 5: might need to have because you live in a town 169 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: where they let drug addicts walk around on the streets still, 170 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 5: and they might break into your house and steal your stuff. 171 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: It's going to be a lot harder for him to 172 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 5: do it if you got all the cameras and sensors 173 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: and all the different stuff that comes with simply Safe. 174 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: And the extremely effective twenty four to seven professional monitoring 175 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: that is unbelievably affordable. Seriously, Judy and I had the 176 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: old style security system. I don't even want to tell 177 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: you what it costs to get installed and then monthly 178 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: and everything. Simply Safe is so much better and it's 179 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: so much less expensive. It's all about those twenty four 180 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: to seven professional monitoring agents who dispatch emergency help when 181 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: you need it. 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went online. 183 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 5: I customized it for the place I lived, so then 184 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: it shows up in the mail fast and I hooked 185 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: it up myself. 186 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: That's the way it worked for me. That's why it's 187 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: called simply Safe. And you can get fifty percent off 188 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: new system when you sign up for professional monitoring in 189 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 3: your first month. This for a very affordable Visit simply 190 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: safe dot com slash armstrong. That's half off at simply 191 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: safe dot com slash armstrong. There's no safe like simply Safe. Yeah. 192 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: I was going to talk about that more, but I 193 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: want to talk about it anymore. Right, There'll be more 194 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: times to talk about that in the future. 195 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: Talking a little bit earlier, how driving the most you know, 196 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: environmentally safe car available in America. Really, the Tesla now 197 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: codes conservative rights of elon. 198 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 5: I know that because I get flipped off on a 199 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: daily basis practically driving my cyber truck around. I didn't 200 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: know the thing you said, though, that cheating in school 201 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 5: with AI is trying to crack down on them is 202 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 5: considered right wing. 203 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: Yes, reading something Nelly Bowles wrote about. With the arrival 204 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: of chatbots, they're having to confront what the heck college 205 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: is and what it's good for because everybody's cheating their 206 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: way through. There was an article in The New Yorker 207 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: on will AI make college obsolete? And in New York 208 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: Magazine one called everyone is cheating their way through college? 209 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: So anyway? She writes, No, there's an easy solution all 210 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: the chat GPT or chat GP cheating. That's kind of clever, 211 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: which is to make kids take tests in person, pen 212 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: to paper, ass in seat. But colleges are now run 213 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: by people who think that's crazy, unfair and wrong. What 214 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: about the kids with no hands? And every student has 215 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: a letter from a doctor saying they have a condition 216 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: that bars them from timed exams. Yeah, and it's amazing 217 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: the more elite quote unquote the university, the more the 218 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: kids get exemptions from taking exams in time. 219 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 5: And you see, you're going to go out and get 220 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 5: a job where they're going to say I need this 221 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 5: report by Friday to make a sales presentation. And you 222 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 5: can't say, yeah, I can't do timed things like this 223 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 5: because of my anxiety. 224 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: A young law student who I'm well acquainted with was 225 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: talking about how some of the people who are whooping 226 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: in the class rankings get lots of extra time. Wow. 227 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: And my friend, who is in law school, is a 228 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: very compassionate person. But when I said, you know, when 229 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: a client says I need this by this afternoon, there's 230 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: no such thing as I'm going to need extra time. 231 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: I have a note for my doctor. Oh my god. 232 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: We are so serv We're serving our children so badly 233 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: by coddling like this. Anyway, let's see reading on anyway. 234 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: Two great essays this week which I mentioned. Here's the 235 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: crazy part, the one the New Yorker will aim at 236 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 3: college obsolate for the crime of writing that New Yorker piece. 237 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: Jay Kang has been the villain of Blue Sky all week, 238 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: the notorious lefty social media site. He wrote this very 239 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: funny take on X Blue Sky really is the weirdest 240 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: social media site ever created. It's like the most toxic 241 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: liberals built themselves of prison and then locked themselves up 242 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: in it and now have den ryots a day. Why 243 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: would you do that? La? And then she writes fascinating 244 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: how the next tech wave is shaking out politically, electric 245 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: self driving cars that will make less air pollution and 246 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: are safer are being coded as right wing, and using 247 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: artificial intelligence in school, which undermines the entire existing knowledge 248 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: economy and might turn our brains into banana puree, is 249 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: being coded as left wing. Very curious outcome. The anti knowledge, 250 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: anti testing movement has gone so far that it is 251 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: now comfortable letting kids just not think at all. Full 252 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: brain death is the most equitable result. Blah blah blah. 253 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: Education solved, playing field leveled. Moving on, that'll be an 254 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: interesting one to follow. I didn't realize that was going 255 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: in that direction. 256 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some pushback happening in the legal world around 257 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 5: that Michael Jackson movie that my son liked so much, 258 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 5: among other things we'll talk about coming up. 259 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: Stay here. 260 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 6: Go On Friday, after three days of reinsurance, I give 261 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 6: you nightline. 262 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 7: A dream vacation turning into a floating nightmare. Authority is 263 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,239 Speaker 7: now working to stop the spread and track down passengers 264 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 7: who've already left the ship, including to the US. The 265 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 7: little in question, could this become the next pandemic? 266 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: They got me again? 267 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 6: And by the way, did you check out the percussion 268 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 6: on that. 269 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: Digga? Could this be the next pandemic? 270 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: The question of whether it was going to be the 271 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 6: next pandemic had been asked and answered for three days. 272 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a week ago. And they continue to 273 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: do it. The last night it's out on the news. 274 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 5: They is this the next pandemic? 275 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: Again? And then they go to an expert says not 276 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: even close, not a chance. All the experts say exactly 277 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: the same thing. So what are we doing here? 278 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: What are they responding to? I don't know what's motivating 279 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: that I do not? No. I mean because viewership of 280 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: one evening news or the other is fairly loyal. So 281 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: aren't there listener their viewers saying y'all told us this 282 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: last night and the night before last week? Right? 283 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: Any who? 284 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 5: I'm glad John Stewart picked up on that. Coming up, 285 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: what's a booty rumble? Booty rumble is something Michael Jackson 286 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 5: would do. 287 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: With little boys. 288 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: Oh what now? 289 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 5: According to sixty Minutes Australia and a new piece that 290 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 5: they've got out, I have a feeling this is kind 291 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: of pushback against that movie that left out all the 292 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: child sex stuff. Let's not forget who he is anykay. 293 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: There are some details here I've never heard before. Oh boy, 294 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 5: coming up? 295 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: Oh boy, getting back to the question of elections and 296 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: ballot harvesting and blanketing apartment complexes with ballots, which is 297 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: the practice in cal Unicordia, among other places. Got this 298 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: great note from JT on Monday. You guys mentioned you 299 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: need to show an ID in order to get Oh 300 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: A listener mail emailed in that they have to show 301 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: ID in order to get their post stop medications at 302 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:19,359 Speaker 3: a pharmacy where people are abusing like deadly drugs right outside. 303 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: And so why has he got to jump through the 304 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: Hoops story? 305 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: What? 306 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: In a different direction? But it got me thinking about 307 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: the whole fake accusations about voter id ie claims by 308 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: Dams that voter ida is racist and will disenfranchise millions 309 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: of Americans. Isn't it a thousand times worse to be 310 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: denying people their prescription medication for the lack of an ID, 311 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: which everybody seems to be able to come up with. 312 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: Yet there's no great progressive outcry based on the idea 313 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: that people don't get their medications for lacking on an ID. 314 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about 315 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: people opposing voter ID. 316 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: Well, it's just politicians. They don't even represent their party 317 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: because seventy percent of Democrats and Black Democrats and everybody 318 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: is a favorite voter ID. It's it's just people in 319 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: control of the party that fight it. 320 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 3: Do you think it's to make voter fraud easier or 321 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: because they know the very small number of voters who 322 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: can't come up with an ID are virtually all Democrats. 323 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: No, I think it's that one. Yeah, I think it's 324 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: that one. 325 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe two thirds, a third backwards, a third, two thirds. 326 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: I don't know with authority, but there has to be 327 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 3: an explanation for why you oppose something that's overwhelmingly popular. 328 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 2: It's all a booty rumble as far as I can. 329 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: Oh, boy, stop saying that. 330 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: Just teasing ahead to the Michael Jackson story again. 331 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: Well, I just saw zorin Mumdani brushed aside a question 332 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 3: of whether his virulent anti Israel rhetoric is contributing to 333 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: all the attacks on Jewish people in New York. He 334 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: brushed it off. Brings up London. A couple of Jewish 335 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: guys got stabbed, and they asked a prominent Muslim media 336 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: guy about it, and he said, yeah, Well, it becomes 337 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: more complicated because, of course many people in the Jewish 338 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: community do support Israel, and that becomes a problem. I 339 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: think we need to be able to have these conversations. 340 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: Oh but at the same time all agreeing that violence 341 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 3: is never the solution. 342 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, not forgetting who Michael Jackson was coming up 343 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. 344 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: They don't want to give me credit for anything. They 345 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: made it up, a little ignorant fool. He is a mean, 346 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: he's a racist, and he's very, very, very devilish man. 347 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: We used to play those clips a lot. 348 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 5: We've done God how many hours of radio we probably 349 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 5: done in thirty years on Michael Jackson from back in 350 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 5: the day in his various court cases and the documentaries 351 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 5: and all that sort of stuff. 352 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: Quite a few. 353 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 5: And I still I don't know where you are on it. 354 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 5: But I still don't really know what I think Michael 355 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 5: Jackson was or wasn't. 356 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah, you left out his racial transition, by 357 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 3: the way. 358 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 5: So on SNL, they're fake Tucker Carlson, who's really really good. 359 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: That's one of the things he was for you in 360 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: the Michael Jackson movie. And when did it end before 361 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: he became a white man? 362 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: What do we do? You know to your question of 363 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: what you really think about the charges and everything, I'm 364 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: in the same spot. And if you're part of it 365 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: is if you're a guy like Jacko and word gets 366 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 3: around that you are guilty of, say, you know, child molestation, 367 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: and I'm a greedy, soulless show business parent whose kid 368 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 3: interacted with Jacko, I'm piling on. I'm piling on. If 369 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: there's a legit charger two, I'm thinking, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 370 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: there's money to be had here. So are one of 371 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: the allegations true or half of them or two thirds 372 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: of them or I don't know. That's funny. 373 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: I told my kids just the other day. 374 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 5: We were talking about this because my youngest saw the 375 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: new Michael Jackson movie. 376 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: They liked it. 377 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: He went with his friends and they really liked it. 378 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 5: And if you know, anything about the biopic, which features 379 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: his nephew playing him, and it's supposed to be really good. 380 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 381 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 5: Anyway, it's Jackson's whole career up until like basically when 382 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 5: his first solo album, Off the Wall came out, I think, 383 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 5: or right after Thriller anywhoy. It's before all the child 384 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: molestation stuff exploded. And some people thought that that was 385 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 5: a really uncool cover up of his life story. Other 386 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 5: people looked at it as a well, this is just 387 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: a movie about his being one of the biggest music 388 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: things that's ever happened in the history of the world. 389 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: And as I mentioned the other day, it's actually interesting 390 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 3: because they realized in shooting that legally they couldn't comment 391 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: on they couldn't profit from any of that. The Jackson 392 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: family the estate, and so they went to the filmmaker 393 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: and said, we can't have any of this in there, 394 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: and as we discussed as a happy accident, because that 395 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: would change the movie so much, right, because look, I 396 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: don't know what the guy's guilty of or not. Brilliant songwriter, 397 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: unbelievable performer, singer, the rest of it. 398 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 5: All the stuff up into the moot where the movie 399 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: ends happened the way it happened to there, and the 400 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 5: world was looking at him the way we looked at 401 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 5: him there. So I don't know what to do with 402 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 5: this story. And I actually told my kids, I said, 403 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: I don't know that. I think he's a childless or 404 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 5: I think he is all kinds of messed up because 405 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 5: he's a child star and all that child abuse victim victim, 406 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 5: and maybe he just liked hanging out with little boys. Well, 407 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 5: now we got this story today. The pushback on this 408 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 5: story that you're about to hear is the sort of 409 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 5: thing Joe just said, the family saying, these families come 410 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: out of the woodworks. You know, Michael befriended these families 411 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 5: and these kids, and then the people see a money 412 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 5: grab and you know, you probably do get paid a 413 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 5: couple of million. 414 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 2: Dollars to go away, whether it's true or not. 415 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 5: So this is from sixty Minutes Australia from Sunday night. 416 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 5: I just did a little research because this is like 417 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 5: the third week in a row that sixty minutes Australia 418 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 5: has had a story that makes news in the United States. Yeah, 419 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 5: sixty minutes Australia has nothing to do with sixty minutes 420 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 5: in the United States. It has none of the credibility 421 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 5: built up over many, many decades. It's a format that 422 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 5: you can buy because it has the same clock and 423 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 5: the tick tick tick. But there's no there's no like 424 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 5: sixty minutes United States. Barry Weiss has nothing to do 425 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 5: with it or any of the people that want to 426 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 5: hold on to journalistic credibility. 427 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: Okay, it's more tabloidy. 428 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, doesn't mean this isn't true, though, but it's more 429 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 5: likely if it were sixty minutes United States to. 430 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: Be a lot more solid story. I'm just saying that, 431 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: I guess. 432 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: Anyway, four siblings who were part of Michael Jackson's secret 433 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 5: family revealed in an interview Sunday the vile ways that 434 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 5: the late pop star allegedly groomed and sexually abused them 435 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 5: as children. The Caskio family describe how Jackson did all 436 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 5: this over many many years, lavish gifts, fame. You've heard 437 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 5: this story many many times. The four siblings filed a 438 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 5: lawsuit in February alleging Jackson was a serial child sex 439 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: predator who abused him at the homes of Elizabeth Taylor 440 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 5: and Elton John, among the other many other places. Interesting 441 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 5: to throw in that ted bit. Does that make your 442 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 5: abuse better or worse? It's that Elton John's house. 443 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 444 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: I'd rather not be victimized at Elizabeth Taylor's pad, but or. 445 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 5: Any other Right, he's a monster, He's evil. What he 446 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 5: did was evil. He tricked the whole world into thinking 447 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 5: he's innocent, a perfect human being, and he's not, said 448 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 5: Dominic Caskio. I'm not sure that he tricked the world 449 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 5: into thinking he's innocent and perfect. I don't know many 450 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: people who think Michael Jackson's perfect for a while. 451 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: Maybe he did. 452 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 5: He carved up his face and turned into a different 453 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 5: color for one thing. I mean, without the sexpot I know, Yeah, 454 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 5: the videlago don't write your emails. 455 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: That makes him a little odd, Yeah, right there. 456 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 5: So the father of these kids met Jackson in the 457 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 5: eighties while working at the Helmsley Palace hotel in New York. 458 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 5: He quickly became part of the singer's inner circle, and 459 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 5: his family would often spend holiday is It Neverland ranch 460 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 5: and travel the world with the. 461 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: King of Pop. 462 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 5: Dude and his wife and his four kids were traveling 463 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: the world with Michael Jackson. 464 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be pretty intoxicating. Oh my gosh, when you're 465 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: just a regular working stuff. Yeah, I remember hearing about 466 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: this family. Are they aware it's I'm channeling the beloved 467 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: listener right now? Are they aware it's twenty twenty six 468 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: where you been? 469 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, this movie's out. That's got to play a role. 470 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: It's got to play a role, the fact. 471 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: And they got pissed off enough and offended enough that 472 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 3: they thought he ought to be brought to heel for 473 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: abusing us sexually for years, or. 474 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 5: They thought now, or they thought it would make get 475 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 5: have a bigger splash, because part of the getting money 476 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 5: to make it go away is how much attention it gets. 477 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: Gets more attention with that movie out. 478 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: Not a crazy argument. 479 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 5: One of the siblings, at a forty three now recalled 480 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 5: the on the broadcast that he met the thriller singer 481 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 5: when he was only two, when Jackson began visiting the 482 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 5: family's New York home on late nights unannounced. 483 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: So, Michael, j why is my phone ringing that it's Michael? 484 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: Can I come over? The ignorant fool, it says you. 485 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: He'd visit the home unannounced, just show up late at night. 486 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: Knock, knock, knock, knock, it's me. 487 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 2: Uh cool and Jay, can I come in? 488 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: The biggest star on the planet, says I was just 489 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: passing by. Can I come by? Can I come in? 490 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: I guess you say yes? 491 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 2: Let me text my son? Are real quick? 492 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 3: This is right? Stand by everybody, stand by important family business. 493 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, we haven't okay. I'm still standing by, 494 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: waiting for a word of Katie having a baby. If 495 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: you aren't listening earlier, Katie called in from the delivery 496 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: room to give us an update. If you missed it, 497 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: it was heartwarming. Grab it ya podcast I'm Strong and 498 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: Getty on demand. You should subscribe downloads automatically. 499 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: It's back to Michael Jackson. Yes, so he'd show up 500 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 5: at that night home video show. The Outlet capture Jackson's 501 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 5: chimpanzee bubbles charming the children during one visit Ah before. 502 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: It ripped their arms. I was thinking about it. You know. 503 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: I I'm not a big pop music event, but. 504 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 5: I like Michael Jackson's music now more than I did 505 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 5: in the ages. For some reason, Thriller never grabbed me, 506 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: but my kids are kind of into it, and I've 507 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: listened to it more in my amazing stereo in my car, 508 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: and it is. 509 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: It's pretty. It's pretty catchy. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty catch 510 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: and it's great Quincy Jones. Right, but I was gonna say, 511 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: you know, if my dad had befriended Mick Jagger or something, right, 512 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 3: and and Micket swing by and I'm not going to 513 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: attempt to do my Mick. It's not good. And it's 514 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: like it's passing by. What's going on? You guys still 515 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: have be like, come on in, Mick, We're going on 516 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: a world tour. 517 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: You want to go with us? Yes, tell your dad 518 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: we don't. 519 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: We gotta go. Will have school? 520 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: Who cares school shop? We're gonna travel around. Yeah, exactly. 521 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it. 522 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 523 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 5: The star wooed the children, all four of them, Eddie 524 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 5: Aldo Dominic and another one that I can't pronounce, by 525 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 5: taking them on lavish trips on his private jet on 526 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 5: tour with him and to meet world diplomats. 527 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: Here's the King of Zimbabwe. 528 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: Well room children. I assume he sounds like James Earl Jones, 529 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: the King of Zimbabwe. 530 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 5: The SuperStar's luxury gifts, however, were merely a facade for 531 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 5: the decades of alleged grooming and sexual abuse that followed. 532 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 5: My parents were young for them to have such a 533 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: big celebrity want to be friends with them, They definitely 534 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 5: felt special, and so did we. He made us feel 535 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 5: like we're his family, his kids, everything. The Cassio siblings 536 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 5: claimed the campaign of abuse occurred over twenty five years, 537 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: including at Jackson's Neverland ranching during the World tours. When 538 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 5: you have the biggest superstar in the world in the 539 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: eighties wants to be your friend, you're very vulnerable. Eddie 540 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 5: claimed that Jackson, here's where we start the year. This 541 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 5: is not for your kids to hear. Okay, oh, to 542 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 5: get pretty. I've never heard this stuff before, and we've 543 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 5: done a lot of Jackson's segments in the years. Ay 544 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 5: claimed that Jackson started molesting him when he was eleven 545 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: during the ninety three Dangerous Tour, abusing him every night 546 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 5: while the two shared to bed, and well into his adulthood. 547 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: That's when my world started to change. 548 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 5: We were on tour and that's when Michael started to 549 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 5: get closer, started rubbing me on my legs. I was 550 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 5: sitting on his lap, and that's when the first kiss happened, 551 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 5: where he kissed me on the lips, Several of the 552 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 5: siblings said Jackson had them participate in a disturbing game 553 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 5: called the booty Rumble. 554 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: Oh boy, we're going to play booty rumble now. 555 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: Well, oh boy. 556 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 5: He would lay on top of me with my genitals 557 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 5: up against his while he would shake and he would 558 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 5: kind of push up against me. 559 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is called the booty rumble. Okay, now 560 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: prepare yourself for this. 561 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: Oh my, there's more. 562 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 5: Oh this is yeah, way past the booty rumble. He 563 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 5: would also drink my urine well and tell me this 564 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 5: is how much I love you. I'm maybe twelve years 565 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 5: old at this time, like I'm a child who's seeing 566 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 5: a grown man do this, Dominic said. Although the youngest 567 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 5: of the siblings came jack said, Jackson began molesting him 568 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 5: while the two lay in bed together and played video games. 569 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 5: He just pulled down my shorts and started giving me 570 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 5: oral sex. And he'd say right. 571 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: Away, doesn't this feel good? See? I love you? I 572 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: love you. 573 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: Wow. 574 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 5: And one of them said the fact that he was 575 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 5: willing to drink my urine made me think he must 576 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 5: really love me. 577 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's why I had react as 578 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: a ten year old, Well, I don't know because it 579 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: didn't happen. He got a trusted friend explaining it to you. 580 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: And you think I have no experience of this in 581 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: the world. He have no idea how you'd reactesh, I. 582 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: Had never heard this one before. 583 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 5: The siblings added the Jackson supplied them with prescription drugs 584 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 5: and alcohol at a young age, including Jesus juice, which 585 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: we've heard about before, and documentaries and that sort of stuff, 586 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: which was actually wine, and Disney juice, which was hard liquor. 587 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: What are you in the mood for a little Jesus 588 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: jews or Disney juice? Been a long day? 589 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: What Jesus juice pairs well with this? Rib ribbi? 590 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: You know it's been a long week. At a math test. 591 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: Hit me with the Disney juice. 592 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: He gave me Xanax and vicodin at eleven years old 593 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 5: and told me I'd be floating. 594 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 2: I would love it. 595 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 5: The Cascio Sillbings also alleged that the megastar instilled fear 596 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 5: in them by training them for interrogation by their police 597 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: and parents, causing the kids to be adamant that nothing 598 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 5: abnormal was happening to them. 599 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: While that's an. 600 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 5: Interesting detail, Wow, he was training them in case anybody 601 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 5: came along and asked questions. 602 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 603 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 5: The pushback is that the Jackson estate says this is 604 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 5: just a money grab by a family that thinks they 605 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 5: can get money after this. Notably, these shakedown attempts come 606 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 5: more than fifteen years after Jackson's death, thus carrying no 607 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 5: risk of being sued for defamation. 608 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: The state said, yeah, which could be true. 609 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely could be. So you know, I'm not going to 610 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: draw a direct line because it's it would be disturbing. 611 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: But if you're a parent and you go, I don't 612 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: mean to the grocery store, I mean you're gone. Who's 613 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: going to raise your children? Don't let the state decide that. 614 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: Don't let the state decide who gets your stuff. 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If it's a cash grab, that's despicable too, 642 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: but in a different way. 643 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cons I get yeah. And 644 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 5: children weren't abused, right, right? 645 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: Right? Would we not? 646 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: Here? 647 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 5: Until now, all these years later? About the urine stuff. 648 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: If that was a thing he did, surely not right. 649 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: No, hey McCully again, why would you wait this long? Yeah, 650 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: I mean they couldn't have been betting on I'll bet 651 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: there will be a movie come out, right, and it'll 652 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: end before his accusations, and that's when will pounce. 653 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 5: Now, yeah, yeah, you're right and well when he was 654 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 5: in the court in Los Angeles and that was the 655 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 5: time to strike if you had this story right, Yeah, 656 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 5: it doesn't smell. 657 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: Like oh now now now, now I will be using 658 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: the term booty rumble with my wife though. 659 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: Okay, ignorant food. 660 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 5: Some of you did not like our Michael Jackson segment. 661 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 5: We just to report the news. We can't control the 662 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 5: news flow. 663 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: Certainly not. Yeah. So on a totally different topic, and 664 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: I started on this earlier. I wanted to finish it up. 665 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: Interesting response to the random stabbing of Jews in London 666 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: after a Samall born British man rampage through a heavily 667 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 3: Jewish London neighborhood stabbed two Jewish men. There's Mehdi Hassan, 668 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 3: who runs the very successful Zittio news organization in Britain, 669 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 3: arguing that violence is bad, but the real issue is 670 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 3: the Jews quote. It becomes more complicated because of course 671 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: many people in the Jewish community do support Israel, and 672 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 3: that becomes a problem. I think we need to be 673 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: able to have these conversations but at the same time 674 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: all agreeing that violence is never a solution. And as 675 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: the Free Press writes, a guy stabs Jews on the 676 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: street and this is the response. It becomes more complicated 677 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: because of course many people in the Jewish community do 678 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: support Israel, and that becomes a problem. The jew stabbing. 679 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: It's not good, but we should talk more about why 680 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: we might be Jews stabbing, because they have a point. 681 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: The real problem is not the Jews getting stabbed, but 682 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: the bad, bad thoughts in the Jews heads and what 683 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: we're going to do about them. That's so sick. We 684 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: got this note from first Initial and who says some 685 00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: very very nice things about the show. You guys and 686 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 3: a different show that I'm not familiar with, are the 687 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: only ones who've stuck to your guns about anti Semitism, 688 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 3: despite everyone else choosing a side based on which way 689 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 3: the wind blows. I particularly appreciate that you don't feel 690 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 3: a need to knee jerk support or reject everything someone 691 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 3: on the right, especially President Trump, or the left does, 692 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: just on the basis of team's spirit. If only more 693 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 3: voices in the broadcasting podcast world would be so rational. 694 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: And then they make points about candidates openly running on 695 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: anti Semitism, several in Michigan and at least one in Florida, 696 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: all Democrats. Though yeah mm. Second, they point out it's 697 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: important to understand that Jews are the Canarian the cold mind. 698 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 3: When society starts blaming, scapegoating its Jews, the entire society 699 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: is in danger. This is a historical reality. So this 700 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: is not so much about Jews being in danger. As 701 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: Mark Twain noted, the Romans, Greeks, Persians all came and 702 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 3: made a loud noise and are gone, and the tiny 703 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: persecuted Jewish nations survived. Somehow, it's Western society at stake. 704 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 3: I've heard other people, Peggy Noonan's written about how when 705 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: you see anti Semitism on the rise, that's a symptom 706 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 3: of sickness in a society. Then, for some reason they 707 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: point out a handful of Jewish people have done terrible 708 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 3: things and that hey, look we hate them too. They 709 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: are pieces of garbage. But gosh, so please don't judge 710 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: the entire Jewish people by the actions of a few. 711 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: I don't think people do. They look for excuses to 712 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: hate people they already hate, and then they talk about 713 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: how it's scary just to go and come and go 714 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 3: from synagogues and schools and stuff. So the vast, vast 715 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 3: majority of Jewish people are proud to fly the flag 716 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 3: of our country and are proactively involved in building its economy. 717 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: We marry young, build families. We're happy to have jobs 718 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 3: and pay taxes, and if we're fortunate enough, we build 719 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: businesses that employee dozens, hundreds of thousands of employees and 720 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 3: pay them fair wages so they can support their families. 721 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 3: What the hell is going on? Yeah, and they thank 722 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 3: us again. Sure, it's the right thing to do. 723 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 2: My god, I didn't put any thought into it. 724 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: It's just yeah, try not to align with evil is 725 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: a good policy. 726 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 727 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 5: I don't know how you do what, Tucker and now 728 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 5: Megan Kelly do. I really don't know how you do that. 729 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 5: If you miss a segment, get our podcast Armstrong and 730 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 5: Getty on demand. 731 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty