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Speaker 1: Hmm, welcome back all the smoke, Las Vegas Summer League

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, coming to you from the Blue Wires Studio.

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Speaker 1: You're here at the Wynn Hotel and we got one

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Speaker 1: of the homies here and we met Telu back in

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Speaker 1: the late nineties when you first came from Mexico, Missouri

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Speaker 1: outter La.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the show Man T you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate. I'm finally made it man to get you

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Speaker 3: a minute. Yeah, And I wasn't big time y'all, just

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Speaker 3: really had a business, A busy man.

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Speaker 2: The big time.

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Speaker 1: He's a busy big time And we got the dude

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Speaker 1: was in the building.

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Speaker 3: The legend, it's part of the crime.

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Speaker 2: Man man, let's get to it.

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Speaker 1: Eleven year pro, one of the smartest players in the game,

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Speaker 1: transitioned into a coach.

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Speaker 3: What's life like as a coach? What's the day to day?

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously less to play double digit years in

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Speaker 1: the league, But someone just asked me the day would

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Speaker 1: you ever coach in the NBM Just like that's a

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Speaker 1: whole nother monster about that monster.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a grind.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, being a you know, a lower

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Speaker 3: level player in the NBA you always had a grind

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Speaker 3: to get to my next contract, get to the next season,

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Speaker 3: get to the next year. But this is a totally

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Speaker 3: different grind. Like you know, as a player, you know,

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Speaker 3: you win a game, you can go out and celebrate

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Speaker 3: and kick it, you know, hit a game, win or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But as a coach, you're going on to the next

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Speaker 3: It never stops, you know, And so it's a lot

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Speaker 3: of work. You know, it's a lot of work, a

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Speaker 3: lot of pressure. You know, you have good teams and

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Speaker 3: you are supposed to win a championship or you supposed

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Speaker 3: to be a contender. It's a lot of work. And

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Speaker 3: so when I first took the job with the Clippers,

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Speaker 3: you know, Mter and Lawrence Frank was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: like what do you do, Like what's your your get away.

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Speaker 4: From the game?

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Speaker 3: I said, like, when I'm in the season, I don't

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Speaker 3: get away, Like I'm diving all the way in. And

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Speaker 3: so it's like, you know, you got to have something,

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Speaker 3: you can have a release, and so I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: get better with that because I don't play golf. I

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Speaker 3: don't do none of that stuff. So it's just a grind.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a big difference and so I tell all

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Speaker 4: Made enough money in the league, you probably don't want

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Speaker 4: to coach.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, if you made a kind of money I made, then.

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Speaker 4: You want to coach for sure. But it's like it's

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Speaker 4: it's all lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: It's all we know, like you know, and so giving

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Speaker 3: back to the younger guys, you know, really it's really

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Speaker 3: a blessing.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I enjoy it.

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Speaker 6: That's I mean, that's a good question because you don't smoke,

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Speaker 6: don't drink, never have or nothing.

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Speaker 7: So it's like, how do you unwinding?

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Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying, It just like get

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Speaker 6: away from it, because it's hard to get away from

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Speaker 6: when your head coach.

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Speaker 4: I think it's tough.

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Speaker 3: I think when I first, you know, took over Stack

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Speaker 3: and when I was thirty eight years old and one

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Speaker 3: of the youngest coaches in the league, and count how

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Speaker 3: it transpired. You know, it really was. It really wasn't

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Speaker 3: a good look, you know Coach Black, you know, he

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Speaker 3: was number one in the East when he got fired.

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Speaker 3: We went to finals a year before and taking over

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Speaker 3: midway through the season, it was tough. And so you know,

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Speaker 3: Kyrie k Love Tryst and Lebron They'll have my back Jr. Shump.

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Speaker 4: But you know, moving over one seat like you don't

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Speaker 4: need I think I can do it.

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Speaker 3: I want to do it, but you know I haven't

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Speaker 3: got come. I got a grind like it can be

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Speaker 3: no days off. You know, lebron he knows everything, every

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Speaker 3: play called another, teammates everything, everything we do.

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Speaker 4: So I got to be on top of my stuff,

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Speaker 4: and so I just dove right into it.

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Speaker 3: I'm grinding. I'm gonna make mistakes, but lebron k love

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Speaker 3: like I said, Kyrie, and it was behind me one

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Speaker 1: You're one of the most I don't know it matters,

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Speaker 1: but it's always good to be like. But you're one

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Speaker 1: of the most liked coaches. You've been known as a

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Speaker 1: player coach to me, one of the best in game

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Speaker 1: adjusting coaches in the game. What do you feel some

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Speaker 1: of the more important skills to succeeding in a position

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Speaker 1: such as yours are.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, man, I appreciate it. It just you're a player's

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Speaker 3: coach until you tell a player no stuff about you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They don't get their shots or

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Speaker 3: you don't get their minutes.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the biggest thing is like being a

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Speaker 3: player of coaches, like, you know, I understand the league

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Speaker 3: and so people go, oh, man, they go out or

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Speaker 3: they so what like when office people go out too,

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Speaker 3: y'all go out and have wine and y'all kick it.

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Speaker 3: So why can't the other guys do it? So the

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Speaker 3: biggest thing about being a player coach is like y'all

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Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like I'm a I'm.

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Speaker 5: Are you been there?

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Speaker 3: I understand what it takes, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So that's one of the biggest things as far as

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Speaker 3: I think just you know, doing it for the black coaches.

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Speaker 3: And now I think we have sixteen or seventeen black

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Speaker 3: just trying to be a vehicle between the black coaches

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Speaker 3: and just the league and just trying to like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we can do this. And so as much as I grind,

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Speaker 3: I keep grinding getting better and better, They're gonna allow

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Speaker 4: And so that's kind of like, that's my that's what

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Speaker 6: So and for me, it's nothing against coaches who haven't

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Speaker 6: played the game, But for me, it's just something special

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Speaker 6: about having a guy like you on the sideline because

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Speaker 6: they can players and come out of the game and

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Speaker 6: you can see something that you have experienced yourself in

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Speaker 6: the game that they don't see, and you can and

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Speaker 6: you can coordinate that to your players and they can

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Speaker 6: take that back to the game to help y'all win

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Speaker 6: the game. Right If but coaches never played the game

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Speaker 6: or never been in those situations with guys, that's a

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Speaker 6: plus that you have, you know what. That's why I

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Speaker 6: say having you, I can see why you are one

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Speaker 3: The court as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that helps with my adjustments because I

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Speaker 3: I played, and I've seen different situations, but you can't

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Speaker 3: be afraid to do it. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, So like if you work on it

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Speaker 3: and we do this every single day, like I don't

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Speaker 3: work on this every single and this is what we do.

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Speaker 3: And so you know you want to make adjustment, you

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Speaker 3: gotta be ready to do it, like right now. You

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Speaker 3: can't wait till after the game all over you in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. Man, that's a big you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So you got to do it now. And so I'm

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Speaker 3: always trying to think three steps ahead, like when I'm

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Speaker 1: Got an opportunity to come benchside with Doc in Boston

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Speaker 1: and then with the Clippers's where I had you the

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Speaker 1: first time. And I've seen obviously knowing you before, but

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Speaker 1: seeing your mind start to work. I never got a

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Speaker 1: because I don't even know if you're the second or

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Speaker 1: though you weren't the head coach. Speak to the importance

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Speaker 1: that Doc has kind of had in your coaching life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything, you know. In two thousand and three, when

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Speaker 3: I played for him in Orlando, He's like, when you're

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I ain't an never coach, Like I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: But like in two thousand and nine, I was done

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Speaker 3: And then just you know, the first year in Boston

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Speaker 3: he appointed me to KG and Rondo, the two of

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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, as players, you know, you

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Speaker 3: might you might cuss me out, you might be mad,

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Speaker 3: but if I tell you the truth, Yeah, but if

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Speaker 3: you hear the truth, like if you're real with yourself,

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Speaker 3: you can you can understand that, you can respect that.

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Speaker 3: And so that right there helped me and allowed me

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Speaker 3: to like, if I can tell KG and Ronald the truth,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of like how I coached and Doc gave

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Speaker 4: And he's one of the best.

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Speaker 3: You know, ato guys, you know, you know, adjustment guys

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Speaker 3: as well, which he don't get a lot of credit for,

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Speaker 3: you know. And so I learned a lot from him,

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Speaker 3: you know, I learned a lot from a lot of

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Speaker 3: coaches I played for Bil Jackson. I learned a lot

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Speaker 3: from Scott Skiles, you know, Stan Van Gundy, Jeff van Gundy,

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Speaker 3: Doug Collins, And so you kind of take pieces from

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Speaker 3: how you don't want to do it, and everybody have

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Speaker 3: their own philosophy. So you know when people talk about, oh,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe he did the coach did that, Well,

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Speaker 3: if he works on that every single day in practice,

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Speaker 3: how are you going to question what he did? Like,

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Speaker 3: that's his philosophy, you know, and so it's not yours

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Speaker 3: if you don't work on it every single day, like

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Speaker 4: When you lose five games.

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Speaker 2: Then let me bounce. I'm in Indiana, let me go home.

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Speaker 3: it's easy to like you know, give in, like okay,

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Speaker 6: That all three of your season with the Clippers, and

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Speaker 6: it would and it would one up both of Kawhi,

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Speaker 3: you know, it just hasn't been that way. And so

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Speaker 4: And so they both understood that as well.

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Speaker 3: As a head coach, Yeah, it's tough because like if

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Speaker 3: And when you get a guy like that that plays

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Speaker 3: another level, you know, And so I love him. You

438
00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,080
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. We got a great relationship. I

439
00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,679
Speaker 3: can be real with him, he can be real with me,

440
00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,280
Speaker 3: and all he wants is the truth. Like we tell

441
00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,920
Speaker 3: him the truth and say, Luke Russ, it's what we're

442
00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,560
Speaker 3: gonna do. This is how we're gonna use you. It

443
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,520
Speaker 3: could be this with that. He's good with it.

444
00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,080
Speaker 4: He respected, you know, and so.

445
00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to save it from himself because he

446
00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,000
Speaker 3: gets you know, he gets fired on you know what

447
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

448
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,640
Speaker 4: But so what do you you know, if you're doing

449
00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,600
Speaker 4: too much, I'll let you know.

450
00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,840
Speaker 3: But be who you are, and I got it's my

451
00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,360
Speaker 3: job as a coach to try to make you fit

452
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,160
Speaker 3: into this this puzzle, you know, as far as our team.

453
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,359
Speaker 3: But do be who you are and then give me

454
00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,400
Speaker 3: five ten games and I can put you in place

455
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,159
Speaker 3: to be successful.

456
00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,439
Speaker 4: And he was great man.

457
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,720
Speaker 1: I loved I think you and Darvin Ham extended his

458
00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,480
Speaker 1: career from a standpoint of I feel like and Jack

459
00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,000
Speaker 1: talked about earlier and interview player coaches who've been there

460
00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,399
Speaker 1: and done that, and I think that he was more susceptible.

461
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,199
Speaker 1: I think it started with Darvin. It might have took

462
00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,960
Speaker 1: a little while to accept the role with the Lakers,

463
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,960
Speaker 1: and he accepted it and flourished. And then, like you said,

464
00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,800
Speaker 1: when he came over, you explained what he needed, and

465
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Speaker 1: he accepted the roll and flourished. And to me, there's

466
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,080
Speaker 1: a knock on who people think he is, right, not

467
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 1: who he necessarily is. But I really think you guys

468
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 1: have mentally helped him grab another five years in this game.

469
00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And the athleticism is still there, IQ,

470
00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,639
Speaker 3: the passing like I mean, he was great man, like

471
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,800
Speaker 3: I said. And when he when we found out we

472
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,960
Speaker 3: only had like three point eight to pay him whatever,

473
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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, there's no way we're going to get

474
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,240
Speaker 3: him back, like you know, but he's like, I want

475
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 3: to win. I want to be in the city I'm from.

476
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,840
Speaker 3: I want to win Clippers never won before and I

477
00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,920
Speaker 3: love what we're doing here.

478
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,400
Speaker 4: And so he came back.

479
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 3: And so you know, a guy like they could have

480
00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,160
Speaker 3: went out and got fifteen minutes somewhere else. You don't

481
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,240
Speaker 3: come back for the three point eight. I just tell

482
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,880
Speaker 3: you who he is, and he wants to win. So

483
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,399
Speaker 3: I really appreciated that.

484
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 6: You rather guy have that motor and pull him back

485
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,359
Speaker 6: to put the mode in him, because he don't.

486
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 3: Have it, you know what I'm saying.

487
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,560
Speaker 2: He can't put him motoring. That's why I respect him

488
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 2: so much.

489
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,439
Speaker 3: No, every every day practice, not not just games, practice,

490
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,920
Speaker 3: like every day he goes he's going hard every single day.

491
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,120
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I don't where he gets the energy

492
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,480
Speaker 3: from fifteen years in the league, but every day Jack

493
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 3: no Lie practice every day. And that's what kind of

494
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,919
Speaker 3: helped us get over the hunk too, because when he

495
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 3: got there, we had like six good practices where we

496
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 3: can actually go hard and like kind of teaching the

497
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 3: new guys what we were doing, but actually you know, learning

498
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 3: some good habits going into the playoffs.

499
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,640
Speaker 4: And man, those six practices.

500
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 3: He was a monster, a monster, you know, and so

501
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,159
Speaker 3: he allowed us to do that every single not no, no,

502
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 3: come on, PG.

503
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 5: Come on, let's you know, And that made it easier

504
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 5: on me, you know.

505
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. So it was great, man.

506
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 3: That's what's up?

507
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Speaker 6: Shout out rush Man. Twenty twenty four. You're moving into

508
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 6: a new home. You ready for that new arena? How

509
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 6: you feeling? What does that symbolize?

510
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 3: It symbolized growth, symbolizes growth for the Clipper organization. And

511
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 3: I remember when mister Bomber came in, that's what he said.

512
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 3: I want to build arena. I want to have our fans,

513
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 3: you know, our place, our home, and so the vision

514
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: came true and he was he was serious about it

515
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 3: and he got it done. But it definitely symbolizes growth

516
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 3: for the Clippers organization, I think for the Clippers fans,

517
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 3: for the city of l A. You know, I know

518
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 3: it's the Lakers fans, Clipper fans, and but once if

519
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 3: we're not playing each other, you should cheer for each

520
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 3: you should cheer for each team because it's home, you

521
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

522
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 4: Like, and so I think we're getting around with coming

523
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 4: around to that.

524
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 3: Misch Obama doing a lot of great things in the

525
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 3: community in Inglewood, putting I think he said was a

526
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 3: one hundred million or three hundred million in the in

527
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 3: the in the city of Inglewood, you know, so just

528
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 3: you're developing that, you know, so that project and so

529
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 3: just trying to be there for the people man and

530
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 3: people of La the city of l A.

531
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Speaker 4: And I just think it's you know, it symbolizes his growth.

532
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's super excited, he's so he's so excited. He

533
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 6: motivated about the number of shiitters.

534
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Speaker 8: Yeah that arena, yeah, yeah, yeah, because his whole thing he.

535
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 4: Wants more toilet. So now peoples not waiting in line, you're.

536
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 3: Missing the game. Yeah, everybody be in their seats.

537
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 6: Yeah. How has it been working with him? And any

538
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 6: funny stories because I see he he he turned up

539
00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 6: like he' on a red bull every day.

540
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 3: It's been great because like he taught me more about

541
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: the business side, you know, and people don't get that game,

542
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 3: well you don't get that game up and learning more

543
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: about the business side, you know. I asked a lot

544
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 3: of questions about him coming up in Microsoft and kind

545
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: of how he got started. But the biggest thing I

546
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: would say, man's just him and help him with this

547
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 3: project from Mexico, Missouri. And so I told him when

548
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 3: he said he would come back home with me, he

549
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: wanted to see like Mexico and and go forward with it.

550
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: We talked about a few times during the season, and

551
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 3: so after said I'm not gonna worry him and just ask.

552
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 3: He caught me three times when we going to Mexico.

553
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: When we're going to Mexico, picked me up on his

554
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: private plane. We flew into Jefferson City, Missouri. He went

555
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 3: down to Mexico, saw the landscape, had a vision, put

556
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: that vision, you know, on paper. Then we started working

557
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 3: with pr I dreaming her group and then Jenny Goldstock,

558
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: who's helping me on my side and so kind of

559
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 3: put this whole group together and he donated a lot

560
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: of money to the city and then we just kind

561
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: of went on from there.

562
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: But he's taught me a lot man.

563
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 7: And then I played with so many teams. Some of

564
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 7: the teams I don't even know the own right.

565
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's but he's genuine. It's not like he's

566
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: treating you as like like it's like family and it's real.

567
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 3: It's not like I've been around a lot of owners,

568
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: a lot of different people, you know, but it's not

569
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: it's not bullsh it's it's real.

570
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: We got him that first year after Sterling got fired

571
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: and I only had one year, but you could feel it,

572
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: like you said, it's genuine. It's not because of the

573
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: name on the back of your jersey, Like he cares

574
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: about you as a person, which is which is different.

575
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: So that's dope.

576
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

577
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: Born and raised Mexico, Missouri. What was your upbringing?

578
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 4: Like it was tough? You know, it was tough.

579
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 3: You know my mom being a single parent, you know,

580
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: having three kids, my sister Toy, my brother Greg, and

581
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: you know, she was the neighborhood booster. You know. She

582
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: would go on the road and she would you know,

583
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 3: shoplift and she would come back and sell stuff a

584
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: half price, you know, in the hood. And that's how

585
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: we made our living. I was best dressing in school

586
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: for six seven.

587
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 5: We had no money, but I'm best dressing.

588
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know my dad, you know, he was

589
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: on crack, you know, for you know, majority of my life.

590
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 4: And so when he went to prison.

591
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: He got out when I was playing for Orlando in

592
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: two thousand and two thousand and three, and we never

593
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: had a great relationship, but we kind of, you know,

594
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: had a relationship.

595
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 4: When he got out.

596
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: I said, listen, if you get back on drugs, I'm

597
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: not dealing with you no more. And he's been cleaned

598
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: for I think twenty three years. Really yeah, clean, no drink,

599
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: no drugs. We got a great relationship, textan call every game,

600
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: like yeah, so like it just it was great, you know.

601
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 3: But like the upbringing was tough because you know, in

602
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 3: Mexico you did wane dabbing a lot of different things.

603
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: So I got into trouble, into trouble a couple of times.

604
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: I had to move to Kansas City my sophomore year

605
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: in high school, live with my uncle Kevin Graves, who

606
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: did a good job of just you know, giving me

607
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: that father figure and teaching me, you know, discipline and

608
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 3: understanding different things because in Mexico, you know, my mom

609
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 3: was going out of town two weeks at a time

610
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: doing what she was doing. So I'm staying with my

611
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: grandma and grandpa and they go to be at eight thirty,

612
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm sneaking out of the house, you know, you know, yeah,

613
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 3: going to the Gama spots doing different stuff, you know,

614
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: six seven, eighth grade. And that's kind of like you know, Mexico,

615
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 3: Like Mexico raises you, it's not really your parents like

616
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: Mexico raises the community. And so I had a lot

617
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: of help from a lot of people. So I saw

618
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem giving back.

619
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: You mentioned you moved out to Kansas City. I went

620
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: to school with Jerron and Earl. There was a lot

621
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: of talent from out that way. Speak to the talent that.

622
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 3: Was in.

623
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: I don't Missouri.

624
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: It was a lot of talent coming through, you know,

625
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 3: Larry Hughes and Darius Miles and Jehia White, Lauren Woods

626
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 3: on the Saint Louis side, then Jason Tatum.

627
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a lot younger.

628
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 3: But then yeah, Bill, So we had a lot of

629
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 3: Missouri talent on the Saint Louis side. Then you come

630
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: to Kansas City. We had Derick Hood who was top

631
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: five players in the country, Earl Watson. Then you had

632
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: you know, Jeron Rush myself. So we had a lot

633
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 3: of talent, you know coming through that through that area.

634
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 3: Now you got Michael Porter and what's your boy from

635
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 3: Toronto o g and anob like he's from Missouri. So

636
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: we got a lot of like a lot of talent

637
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: from Missouri. But back then, like there was a grind

638
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: just trying to you know, everybody had a vision of

639
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: getting to this point and so you just had to

640
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: put the work in. And so I'm glad I was

641
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: able to, you know, be one of those people that

642
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 3: can you know, say I made it.

643
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: Could you speak to Russia's talent.

644
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 3: Man, listen he him and Anthony Peeler, I would say

645
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: was the best, well him, Anthony Peeler and and Larry

646
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: Hughes as far as talent in high school, not as

647
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: far as NBA careers, but challenged the high spital they

648
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: were three best players they ever come out of Missouri,

649
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: and you got a guy who's six seven, can handle

650
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: push in transition to shoot three point shot, post up

651
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: guard like I mean, he was like one of the

652
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: best players I've ever seen. And you know, just and

653
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: then Kareem come along, then Brandon came along.

654
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: But Jiran like by far.

655
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: The NBA by far, and that's what all do. Respect

656
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: to both the brothers.

657
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 5: And they would say that too, you know, they would

658
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 5: say that too.

659
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: But he was by far.

660
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 6: He was.

661
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: He was a bad dude. I said, yeah, for.

662
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 3: Sure, so good. It was crazy how good he was.

663
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: Ended up going to Nebraska Big twelve school, played against Paul,

664
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: played against Chauncey a lot more people. But some of

665
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: your favorite memories in college good football team, school.

666
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good great football team, Tommy Fraser, Lawrence Fielders,

667
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: rest in peace. So going to Nebraska, some of my

668
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: favorite one of my favorite stories is, you know, I

669
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 3: got recruited. I wanted to go to Georgia Tech and

670
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: so because I idolized Kenny Anderson a lot growing up,

671
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: and so I wanted to go to Georgia Tech. But

672
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: they had Travis Best who was cold, and then they

673
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: had Stephan Marlbur who was going, so they didn't even

674
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 3: looked my way. And so we had a game we

675
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: played in the Slamming Gym and uh in l A

676
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: and I got my first start, you know, in that

677
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 3: in that tournament. And it's a coach called Jimmy Williams.

678
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: He recruited me from Nebraska Danny and he was the

679
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 3: head coach, but Jimmy Williams in the stands. And so

680
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 3: after the first game, I had a good game starting whatever,

681
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: played good, and so Shannon Spradland, who was the coach, like, man,

682
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: there's a team that want to talk to you and

683
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: they're talking about they want to offer you a scholarship

684
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: what else? I was excited? What great were you at

685
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: this time my junior summer going into my senior year. Yeah,

686
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: and so I was like, I'm excited, like thinking Kansas.

687
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: I think he said Nebraska. I was like Nebraska, Nebraska,

688
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: and what He's like, No, you want to talk to you.

689
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: So Jimmy R. Williams like giving credit, like he stayed

690
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: on me from day one. And so after that au situation,

691
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: I didn't pass the ACT test my first time, and

692
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: so like all the schools like Kansas started recruiting me Arkansas,

693
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: Memphis State, Missouri, and Kansas State. And so I didn't

694
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: pass my test, and so all the schools stopped recruiting me.

695
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm gonna pass my test.

696
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: Whatever. So Nebraska said, listen, we'll take you to Prop

697
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: forty eight. Like you don't, I said, listen, I'm gonn

698
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: pass the test. If you don't, we'll take you to

699
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: Prop forty eight. So they stayed the whole way. So

700
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: I passed my test, and all the schools try to

701
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: come back. Oh, we knew you were like no, So I.

702
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: Just stuck on thebra because they stuck with me. That's

703
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 4: kind of a story behind it.

704
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: You mentioned briefly the football team, but talk about what

705
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: those experiences like watching those corn Huskers out there do

706
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: what they did.

707
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: So when I first got there, the football team and

708
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: the basketball team didn't get along.

709
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: And so yeah, but if anyone converge the gap.

710
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so so we came to Nebraska. They said

711
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: we had the worst recruiting class ever in the history

712
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: of Nebraska. So it was me myself, Alvin Mitchell was

713
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: from Omaha, Nebraska. Bernard Garner, who was a junior college

714
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: Player of the Year, Vincent Hamilton and Larry Florence and

715
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: so we got like five six fights with the football players.

716
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: We got suspended.

717
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: We couldn't even go to study hall like they we

718
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: don't wasn't allowed to go to study hall because we

719
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: got kicked out of study hall, So which is good

720
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: for me.

721
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: I didn't want to go to seven or nine anywhere,

722
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: so that was that.

723
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: Was cool with me. But like it's like, man, y'all

724
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: the worst recruiting class ever in the history of Nebraska,

725
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: and so we just bumped his and then like after

726
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: a while, they're like, man, these dudes are just so

727
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 3: they so that we became close. Then Vincent Hamilton he roommate,

728
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: he was roommates with tav Then Kenny Cheating was one

729
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: of my closest friends, Eric Warfield. So like then we

730
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: all became tight and we was all crew. And then

731
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: from that point on the basketball and football team got along.

732
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: It's like, man, we didn't mess with the football I

733
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: mean the basketball team because them guys are the sucker.

734
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, what y'all talking about?

735
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: Jeron Boone and Eric Strickland, Mikey Moore, they never bridged

736
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: that gap, and so like they took t lou bridged

737
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: that gap.

738
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: They had the football teams that during that time.

739
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 6: No.

740
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety eight draft, taking twenty third overall to the Nuggets,

741
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: traded to Los Angeles for Nick Bennex. So do you

742
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: ever look back in your career and think, like, damn

743
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: if I would have just went to I mean, obviously went

744
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: to a great situation, but what if I would have

745
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: stayed on this path?

746
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do that all the time, you know, But

747
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: I think God putsh the position you want you to

748
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: be in, and so never looked back and never have

749
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: any regrets. And so but you know, coming out of college,

750
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: you know, I every twenty three points a game, and

751
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: then you get drafted by Denver, like, okay, I can

752
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: go there and make mistakes, get all, maybe get paid,

753
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: you know, and then tim s l get you get

754
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: traded to the Lakers, and everything totally changes. And so

755
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: you're in LA like you know, you're in practice, You're

756
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: playing good, you scoring me and defish going at it.

757
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: And I never seen the floor. I'm like, I'm playing good,

758
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm balling, but I couldn't get on the floor. So

759
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: I had to change my mindset, how to change my mentality,

760
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: and so I try to tell these young guys the

761
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: same thing, like, Okay, you want to be a scorer.

762
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: You scored, but like when you come to the NBA,

763
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: you gotta find a way to get on the floor.

764
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: And so I was like, Okay, if it's playing defense,

765
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: picking up full court, then I do. I never play

766
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: defense in college, but if it's what I gotta do

767
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: to get on the floor, and That's what I'm gonna do.

768
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: And then Phil Jackson started trust me a little bit more.

769
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: Then you get more and more leeway to do more things.

770
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: And so that's kind of like I just had that

771
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: talk with Musa you know today, you know, before the

772
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: game of day, talking to him like you take steps.

773
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: NB is about steps, and so that was one of

774
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: the steps I had to take.

775
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the doc's favorite lines. Do you

776
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: ever say it was be a star in your role?

777
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: What you need to do running that lane?

778
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 6: When did you start working out with KG and Chauncey

779
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 6: last ninety five Joey Abanazza.

780
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe Bonar.

781
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 6: Was Bonazar Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm proud of you trying.

782
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tried.

783
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: Me and Chauncey relationship started when we were seventeen.

784
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: Playing in Slamm and Jam he played for the Oakland Soldiers,

785
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: and now we played against each other and we changed numbers.

786
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: We were seventeen years old and we've been best friends since.

787
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: And then Chauncey was, you know, his top top five

788
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: players in the country, so he was tight with Steph

789
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: and mckag and Sham and all those guys. And so

790
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: we went to college. We stayed in contact, and when

791
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: we got drafted, When Chancey got drafted, were represented by

792
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: Andy Miller, So Kevin Gard that had Andy Miller and

793
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: Chauncey and Andy Miller. Stephan Stefan had Andy Miller. So

794
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: that's kind of how we formed that bond. And then

795
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: so Chncey introduced me to KG and then we all

796
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: just had that bond like you know, forever. And then

797
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: we started working out with Joe, which started in Bloomington, Indiana.

798
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: Then we went from there, we went to Sarahsota, Florida,

799
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: and then Joe's like, how do you think about you

800
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: know what you think about you know, taking the shoulder

801
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: to Vegas?

802
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Let's try it.

803
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: And then I think two thousand and five, two thousand

804
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: and six, we moved to Vegas Impact Basketball and it

805
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: took off.

806
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 6: Rest is history still doing it.

807
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: I needed Jill practice on Friday, Got anything anything? Literally

808
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: put a message on Instagram yesterday a bunch of people

809
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: hitting me up.

810
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: No Joe doing right now?

811
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 6: Sure, best story you have from those runs? Give me

812
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: quick story from those runs from Impact?

813
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: So you stack, I was saying, I'm about to tell you,

814
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm about to take the story. So one summer it

815
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: was me, Jared Dudley, Alan Anderson, Tayshawn Prince, and Patrick O'Brien.

816
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: So for the whole we never lost a series the

817
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: whole summer. Right, So y'all came in, You came in

818
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: with b D.

819
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: Y'all came in, and.

820
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: We never lost a series the whole summer. So we

821
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: played the whole summer and now we were five middle,

822
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: middle of the pack players. Now we wasn't know, like top,

823
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 3: top of the line NBA players, and we didn't lose

824
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: the whole summer. So he brought you in, bout bad,

825
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: bought Matt and we still never lost.

826
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 5: All the big Antoine Walker, all the big dogs.

827
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: We didn't lose that summertime chemistry.

828
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: And we had rotations and and and double A that

829
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: summer Double A was on fire. He was on fire,

830
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: and so they would bring everybody in. So like y'all

831
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: was getting mad.

832
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 5: Matt wanted to fight and j Jayo wanted to fight.

833
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: Patrick O'Brien. He he picking pop And if we double

834
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: team and y'all double team in the summertime, it's booish

835
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: like he going. So that was the funnest. That was

836
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: the fun of summer.

837
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: Ever ever, I'm we're gonna forget it, Julyie.

838
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, they was cooking, the cooking. They was cooking. Yeah,

839
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: they was in the cooking. That's funny.

840
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 6: Do you think the current big players really work out

841
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 6: like that in offseason like y'all did back then.

842
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 4: I think they work out, but I don't think they compete. Yeah,

843
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: you know, it's a difference. It's a difference doing between

844
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: doing individual workouts.

845
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 3: Who know and who you know. So we traveled. Man,

846
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: you go to Houston and man, they bumping in Houston.

847
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Houston playing at UCLA. We're gonna

848
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 3: go to UCLA playing in Vegas.

849
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 4: Go to Vegas.

850
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: Like we wanted the competition, you know, So we didn't

851
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: want to work out individually. All day and at all.

852
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: We really didn't work out it. We'd lift weights, maybe.

853
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: It was very little.

854
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 5: We shoot, yeah, shot.

855
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: We would play basket playing basketball, and that's the that's

856
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: a competition. Part of the kind of games kind of

857
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: lost a little bit, you know, just compete.

858
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: Well. I feel like not only a competition, but I

859
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: feel like the basketball IQ with this generation is a

860
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: little bit lower, but the skill levels higher skills because

861
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: they're doing the individual workouts since they were younger now,

862
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: so the skill level is a lot different. But they

863
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: just don't bump, like they don't know how to play

864
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: off the ball, high do you cut?

865
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: How do you.

866
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: Handle the game when you're not in the midst you

867
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

868
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: So I feel like some of it is lost because

869
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: it is so much one on one individual workout.

870
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah I agree with that, but it's like I said.

871
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: A skill level levels astronomicro like these guys are doing

872
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: the things they're doing now.

873
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: It's crazy, you know.

874
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 4: But me personally, I want to play.

875
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 3: I want to book.

876
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: I said, I played a little something.

877
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: I played again.

878
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 6: I played with so many guys in the NBA, like,

879
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 6: and they talk about all the people who talked about

880
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 6: I say, bro. I know some hoopers in the league

881
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 6: that was better than these guys. They might be in

882
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame, but I know I was a hooper.

883
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 6: I know hoopers that came along this game that never

884
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 6: get the props to just do that they deserve because

885
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 6: they bust a lot of those Hall of famers to ask.

886
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: But you also see it in the summer because you know,

887
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: you have a lot of us are role players. So

888
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: in the summer, I mean in the season you're a

889
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: role player, you let the leash off these motherfuckers time.

890
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: Ricky Davis is the main one. J R. Smith. Yeah,

891
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: that was the funnest part, Like like playing the summertime.

892
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: What because you got me as a you know, a

893
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: role player. You gotta play a role every single night.

894
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: So that's okay, I'm fine with that. But in the summertime,

895
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: I'm going after Yeah.

896
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: And then as sinners, we're done with that. Were fighting

897
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: the bitches?

898
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I'm going to see them. Did you did

899
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 6: you uh rock with the U s l A Run?

900
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's why I bad bad Joy bead Or.

901
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 5: They were still in college.

902
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so they were coming.

903
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 4: They would play and.

904
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: They ustill call t Lou. I'm not talking about best,

905
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: but t he f you mean, man, you.

906
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 6: Know I know that.

907
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 5: I'm coaching now the day.

908
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: This is why.

909
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying, would be active on the court, and

910
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: then if you wanted something to do, just hit them up.

911
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: They would find something that if y'all wanted to do something.

912
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: Hit them up.

913
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

914
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: But I'm just gonna put it like this. We ain't

915
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: even get in that. Just know he allegends, he's agend Yes,

916
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: put that to bed.

917
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: But I mean, you see l A runs with the

918
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: best runs ever.

919
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: Man. But my first year of the lockout season, yeah,

920
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: I walked in the gym chem Olajah want Scottie Pippen,

921
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 3: Kobe Shack like man, I was in heaven, in heaven,

922
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: and I played against my idol, Kenny Anderson.

923
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I was in heaven, tell you bro.

924
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: And then we were dope too because we kept our

925
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: little UCLA squad. That's to me, that's what got us

926
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: to the pros. Because say what you want about the

927
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: regular season, but those bumps against people like him and

928
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: people he mentioned like, we got to see that every

929
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: single day. Every day in the summertime lockout, you come

930
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: into a lockout, Right, that's your first year because that

931
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: was my freshman year of college.

932
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: What was that like?

933
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously now you're drafted, you come in into

934
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: a season lockout hits, But how do you say.

935
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: How do you do? You have money?

936
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: How you make the money stretches their money to stretch

937
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: you in la you want to have fun?

938
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: Like what was that first lockout part of your first year? Like? First,

939
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: first of all, the first part of taking out a

940
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: line of credit, you know, trying to take out a

941
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 3: line of credit because you not know when the lockout

942
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: is going to end. And a lockout ends, now you

943
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: find out, Okay, I'm making wasn't making five seventy five

944
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: or something like that? Now you get half of that

945
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: because the lockout here, you're only playing fifty games, so

946
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: you're looking like, man, everybody's interest.

947
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 5: That yeah yeah, and that FI hundred yeah yeah it's

948
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 5: three hundred.

949
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: So you know, you get drafted, so everybody about man,

950
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: he's rich. He on TV, Like, no, I'm broke, you

951
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So just that was the biggest thing,

952
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: like coming too the lockout, like man, not having any money.

953
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: But the first thing I did with my money, I

954
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: bought my mama my mama car, bought my grandma car.

955
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: And my mom never had a car.

956
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: My whole year, my whole life growing up, we never

957
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: had a car, you know what I'm saying.

958
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: So I bought her escalade. You know, she was happy,

959
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: and then I bought my grandma car.

960
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they was doing it out there for years.

961
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: Just the biggest thing was being broken, then just having

962
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: a grind man, just grind, grind, grind, and then playing

963
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: fifty games and guys can playing about back to backs.

964
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: We played back to back to back, played three games

965
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: in a row, you know a few times that year,

966
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: shocking and played it. They didn't complain like back to

967
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: back to back, and so it was a grind man.

968
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: But the biggest thing from that was just being broke,

969
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Just having to grind and

970
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: just trying to get through.

971
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: That year coming from Mexico, Missouri and then Nebraska.

972
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 7: What was that?

973
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: La just lifestyle Palm trees saying, women lifestyle. It's just

974
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: a whole nother How did you how did you guys

975
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: take that?

976
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 6: In?

977
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 5: Man?

978
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: Me and Dudles hit the ground with twenty one. So

979
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: me and Doodles first get here and so who took

980
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 3: us up under the wing was Eddie Jones. Eddie Jones

981
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: took us up under his wing. Move Yeah, and we

982
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: went out twenty seven nights in a row, Hey, Matt,

983
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: twenty seven nights and Dwey Doodles twenty seven nights in

984
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: a roll stack for real, and like, man, and that

985
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: right there, just that just changed who I was, you know. Yeah,

986
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 3: never drank, never smoked, you know what I'm saying, But

987
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: like the just over y eyes to a lot of

988
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 3: different things.

989
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: Man, it was.

990
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: It was crazy. And so you know, a lot of

991
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 3: people can't play in l a you know what I'm saying,

992
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: open jays to a whole nother hold little lifestyle and

993
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: it's just different, you know what I'm saying. So, but

994
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 3: I had great vets that that kept me straight. B Shaw,

995
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: Robert or Horse, Grant, Rick Fox, you know, de Fish

996
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: and Shock. They took me like, no, you're not doing this.

997
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: They took me under the wing and got me straight

998
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: when I'm supposed to do. And that's kind of like

999
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: what I think is missing in the game today. The veteran,

1000
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: the vetterer gone man, because even if they're not playing, Yeah,

1001
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: they can't keep it present.

1002
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: Yes, traveling, Yeah, taking you out twenty seventh straight night.

1003
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 6: You don't get you don't want to do that, Bro,

1004
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 6: You trust me, you don't want to do that. You

1005
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. To give them that game?

1006
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying seven straight back

1007
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 9: in the summer. It was summertime though it wasn't during

1008
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 9: the season season. But but I've been saying, like we

1009
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 9: did Bets a missing Man, like just.

1010
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: We had to teach, you know, just different things man,

1011
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: and so you know, the young teacher to young so

1012
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: hopefully we can get together. Ye.

1013
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: First impression of Kobe, I think you come into him

1014
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: your rookie years, his third year, he's just.

1015
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: Starting to kind of come into it.

1016
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: A killer, a killer man, and a guy that never

1017
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: loses confidence. And so you know, looking at Russ, like

1018
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: he has that same mentality, like you think of a

1019
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 3: guy like, oh, Russ, he can't shoot, he can't man, Russ,

1020
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: so he missed like two or three shots in a row.

1021
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: And Dante Jones like, man, you can't shoot, Rus said,

1022
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: man I had two scoring titles.

1023
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: Man I got with twenty five.

1024
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: I carry about missing the shot like and that's the

1025
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: mentality Kobe had, like he felt.

1026
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 4: Every night on the floor he was the best player

1027
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: in the world, and you know, just just being to

1028
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: work with him.

1029
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: And so I was hurt. I got hurt my first year,

1030
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: my second year and Kobe broke his hand. And so

1031
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 3: they would go on team, go on the road, trips,

1032
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: go on the road, and we were staying grind and

1033
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: play one on one every single day, one on one,

1034
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: full court. He's playing left handed, like yeah, he was

1035
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: just a killer man. And every single day, like you know,

1036
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: he worked out of five third in the morning, first

1037
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: guy to be there, last got to leave. And he

1038
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 3: just wanted to be the best, like he wanted to

1039
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: be the greatest of all time. And so, Larry, you

1040
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: would tell a story about Kobe. We played Minnesota and

1041
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: after the no, no, I'm sorry, I wasn't there yet.

1042
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: They played Minnesota and after the Minnesota game, Kobe's in

1043
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: the locker room and he was just sitting there just smiling,

1044
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 3: and Larry, she was like, man, what what you smiled about?

1045
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: He said, Man, I had this game circle on my

1046
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: calendar since the beginning of the season. He's like, what game?

1047
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: He said, Man, we play Chicago tomorrow. Back to back.

1048
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: Larry, you said, young Feller, be careful what.

1049
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 5: You asked for, that you playing against Black Jesus, not

1050
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 5: be careful what you asked for.

1051
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: He said no, but I had this date circled on

1052
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: my count and that's just how he thought. You know

1053
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, twenty years old, nineteen twenty years old,

1054
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,959
Speaker 3: that's how you're thinking.

1055
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 4: You want to play against Michael Jordan.

1056
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 5: You suckle Michael Jordan on your calendar.

1057
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: That's just the mindset that he had.

1058
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: Man, you had to kill list in high school?

1059
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 6: Did he all the top players in our class marking

1060
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: them off as he's playing kill list?

1061
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 7: Jermaine O'Neill, Richard A.

1062
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: Rip Ham. So I wasn't on that, because wouldn't. That's

1063
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: who he was man every single day like in practice, shooting, drills, sprints,

1064
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: condition everything that's he wanted to win, every single thing.

1065
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's why it was a great Your second

1066
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: year as it second year Field comes, yeh, second year.

1067
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: First impressions of Field.

1068
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know how to put in

1069
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: the words like because really you in awe like coach

1070
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, somebody you grew up, idolizing and loving, and

1071
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: then just his presence, like when he walks into a room,

1072
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: like his presence is like it's like none other. Yeah,

1073
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: and so the things I learned from Phil, which was

1074
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: the best, is he coached in practice. He coached hard

1075
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 3: in practice, but in the games, he lets you figure

1076
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: it out, Like he's not jumping up, cussing, going crazy,

1077
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: because it's hard to play as a player, especially as

1078
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: a role player, Like if you make a mistake, you

1079
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 3: got to look back and they cussing that coach coaches

1080
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: going crazy. You play on egg shells, but he lets

1081
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: you figure it out. And so I respect that about Phil,

1082
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: just his presence and when he came in he had

1083
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: instant credibility and that's what Kobe and Shaq needed, Like

1084
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: he held those two guys accountable. I'm gonna holding my

1085
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: best two players accountable every single day like me, Fish

1086
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: and all everybody. He didn't care about it, well, he

1087
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: didn't care about us every day. Film session, the first

1088
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: fifteen clips was Kobe and Shaq of how they got

1089
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: to be better every single day and ship we all

1090
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: had a fall on line after that, like you're gonna

1091
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: beat Kobe and Shaq you ain't got no problem from us.

1092
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, So what was the You know, obviously Field

1093
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: got there and kind of wrangled them the best he could,

1094
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, for your guys' greaterst success. But what what

1095
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: did you see being in the locker room day to

1096
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: day all the shit you what did you kind of

1097
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: see maybe the disconnect being between those two. Was it

1098
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Shaq obviously his team and he's this and then he

1099
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: sees this young fella coming up? Or what did you

1100
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: kind of see between those two?

1101
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 4: I think both of them just wanted to be the best.

1102
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think you know, you know, Shaka

1103
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: said today like Kobe was, He's gonna be Kobe like

1104
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: you wasn't no holding him back, you know, the two

1105
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: air balls and you told her that ain't nothing like

1106
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 3: he was gonna be great. And Shock and he saw that.

1107
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: And I think the biggest thing they both just wanted

1108
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: to win at a high level. And they thought Shock

1109
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: thought posting the basketball every single time was gonna get

1110
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: it done. Kobe thought, me on the wing, I isolate,

1111
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: we was gonna get it done. But they came to

1112
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: common grounds and understand, like listen, we put it together,

1113
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: we can win they did it. They did it, you know,

1114
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: and I was there and b Shaw and like I said,

1115
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: b Shaw and Robert Orry had a big, a big

1116
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: role on that, you know, just bringing those two together,

1117
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: but just being able to do it together. After we

1118
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: won that first championship and it was over, they was like,

1119
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: it was like this, you know, you see Kobe run

1120
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: jumping Shack's arms, grand like, and it was over. Once

1121
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: they won.

1122
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 4: It seemed like the blueprint of how we could win.

1123
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: It was over from there.

1124
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Two thousand finals versus the Pacers, We're seeing Kobe turn

1125
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: into a star in front of our eyes. Jayden Rose

1126
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: spoke to this about that series. It's a new part

1127
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: of our show. We never did this shit before.

1128
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 3: He's coming off party. We hit us with the get

1129
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: down and laid down.

1130
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 10: That was dope because he was arguing with their bench

1131
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 10: like I used to hear Phil yelling at Kobe passed.

1132
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: The ball, the ball, Get off of it, Yeah, yeah,

1133
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: get off of it.

1134
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 10: I don't know again, he watched it right and Shaq

1135
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 10: fouled out.

1136
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: Hey, man, Cole, I love Cole so much.

1137
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 10: He went to work on us and then he hit

1138
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 10: that jumper at the top of the kid, and he

1139
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 10: did this that.

1140
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: Wasn't even to us, that was to his team.

1141
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 10: When Cole first got drafted to the probably shouldn't say,

1142
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 10: I'm just trying not to say too much of what

1143
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 10: I know, but like Cole was presented by his own teammates,

1144
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 10: by his own teammates, I couldn't believe it.

1145
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: They was hating on him. I'm like, why y'all gonna

1146
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: hate on him? Because he was that confident. But he

1147
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: ain't hen't even like go out, he ain't dreams.

1148
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: He was over at UCLA with us, we was in college.

1149
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: He was a laker on campus.

1150
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: Chilling when you hear stuff like that, taking you back

1151
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: to those times, what comes to your mind?

1152
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: Man, just a killer, just like we talked about it,

1153
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: just you know, shock foul out. So like everybody kind

1154
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: of panicked. So they thought, like, okay, shock foult out.

1155
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 3: We got to move the ball, we gotta get everybody involved.

1156
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 3: Gott to play a different style of basketball. And so

1157
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 3: I think Covid missed like three shots in a row.

1158
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: He like took a couple of bad shots whatever, and

1159
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: he missed three shots in a row. So guy's like, man,

1160
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: you gott to move the ball. And Field was on

1161
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: him a little bit in the time out and he

1162
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: came out. I think he might have scored like twelve

1163
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: straight or something, and then he hit that big shot

1164
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: and he was.

1165
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 5: Like relaxed, like I got this.

1166
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: And after that, after that series, then that's when he

1167
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: it was over. It was over, relaxed, I got it.

1168
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: So you know.

1169
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 3: The reporter asked Kobe, He's like, you know, your teammates

1170
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: say you don't trust him, You don't, He said, how

1171
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: do you feel about that? He said, well, I feel

1172
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 3: like I got a better chance of making a shot

1173
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: over two people than the guy. You know what I'm saying.

1174
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, You got a series?

1175
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: Serious, serious, you know. So you know I love him,

1176
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: We love you. Show with that, and with that, he

1177
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: might just make this ship out of.

1178
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: Man two thousand and one, fifteen to one in the playoffs,

1179
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: the infamous step over with Alan Iverson. He spoke to

1180
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: that on our show, and I think surprised a lot

1181
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: of people with his answer. Let's take a look at that.

1182
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: You guys run into the Lakers in the two thousand

1183
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: and one finals, go into La Get Game one, when

1184
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: you hit the jumper on Tulu and stepped over I

1185
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: mean that still gets played daily looking back now almost

1186
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, what do you think about that?

1187
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

1188
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 11: Really, he was giving me so many problems, man, straight doll,

1189
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 11: Like when I stepped over him, it was like I

1190
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 11: ain't knowing I did it, and then they try to

1191
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 11: get me to mimic that shit years later, like, I

1192
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 11: don't even know how.

1193
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: To do it.

1194
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 11: You don't know when you're gonna do something. You don't

1195
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 11: know the emotions in the game or what go on

1196
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 11: throughout the game. It can be a coach that pitched

1197
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 11: you off and you react a certain way, you know,

1198
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 11: to basically tell him, yeah, look what I did that moment.

1199
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.

1200
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 7: It was dope when you look back on it, but

1201
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 7: I just don't like it.

1202
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Obviously a moment we live in a social media moment

1203
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: now that wasn't back then, but it's still something that

1204
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of surfaces around. Speak to that moment, and then

1205
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: also your relationship with him at.

1206
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: The moment, you know, Like I said, people make a

1207
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: big deal out of it, like he crossed me over

1208
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: and I fell down and they stepped over me. Like

1209
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: here a contested shot. I stepped back and I failed.

1210
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 3: He stepped over top of me. And you know, for me,

1211
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: it wasn't even a big deal. Still to this day,

1212
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: it's not a big deal. And you get kids like,

1213
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 3: oh that's the guy. You weren't even born the same

1214
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm on that same mixtape. They showed me more highlights

1215
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: after they're falling, So I'm with you, But it wasn't

1216
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: even a big deal, like to me, you know what

1217
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: I'm saying. People make a big deal of it, like

1218
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: it's part of history and that's okay. Like I love

1219
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: I love Ai even before the series, like it's somebody idolized.

1220
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: He's two years older than me.

1221
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 4: But like man the corn rolls from the hood, like

1222
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: my height, all the things.

1223
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: That the girls like.

1224
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: But like he he changed our game, like to get

1225
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: the culture of our game, like the change you know, Jordan,

1226
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: they weren't suits, they like te white teas, change braids,

1227
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: Like he changed the game for us as from where

1228
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: we come from. That's huge for us because a lot

1229
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: of times, you know, it's young black men. Yeah, I'm

1230
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: not comfortable wearing a suit, and if I get a suit,

1231
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: it might be a two h suit. Eddie Jones laughing

1232
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: at me, like what you got on? You know, you're

1233
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: always teasing people. So like he changed the culture for

1234
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: us and made it okay to be an NBA player

1235
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: but also be who you are. And so I idolized

1236
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: this dude. I told him from day one. And so

1237
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: when I played him every day in practice before he

1238
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 3: played in the finals, like just mimicking who he was

1239
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: and feel like play fast, do this. I knew every

1240
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: movie did Like I was so happy two weeks of

1241
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: just being a man. Move And so I played against

1242
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: him in the game. I knew everything he was gonna do,

1243
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: like I swear to God, stack every every move, every counter,

1244
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: and so you know to me, like I said, I

1245
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: idolize a dude. And so if it's a moment in

1246
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: history and he deserves it, like he deserves it, like

1247
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't make me no.

1248
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 6: No was that because how he is the love for you,

1249
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 6: for you like he don't like people try to make

1250
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 6: it as it seem like he be littling you.

1251
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Because the love he got

1252
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: for you, that's why he don't like it. And I

1253
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: love but I mean you ai, I'm t lou and

1254
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: I don't have no problem with that. Like I'm a realizah.

1255
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a dog like you know all you like,

1256
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: like I'm I'm a dog, Like I'm a guard every night.

1257
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna back down. If you got a scrap,

1258
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna scrap. You know what I'm saying. So it

1259
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: is what it is. But at the end of the day,

1260
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: like he's m v P and I'm just I'm just

1261
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: happy to be able to have a chance to compete

1262
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 3: against him and I high level, so I'm giving everything

1263
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: I got.

1264
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: But like I say, that's my guy, Like if he

1265
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 4: needed it and whatever, that's that's my guy.

1266
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 6: To the end.

1267
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: They don't know.

1268
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 7: Chuck is one of the most sensitive NBA players ever.

1269
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 6: He cried all that he gonna tell you he loved

1270
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 6: you twenty times, twenty times.

1271
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1272
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: People don't just a random phone call out the blue.

1273
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love you, Yeah, And I love it too.

1274
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: To get a chance to compete against him in two

1275
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: thousand and one, I don't know where I would be because,

1276
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, Like, you don't know

1277
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: if you don't get that opportunity, like I was like

1278
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: on the bench kind of you know what I'm I

1279
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: didn't play till six minutes to go in the third quarter.

1280
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 4: I didn't play the whole first half, you know what

1281
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1282
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: So, like having an opportunity to compete against him, like

1283
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: it just it changed my career, changed my life.

1284
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1285
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that two thousand and one team one of the greatest,

1286
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, all time.

1287
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the greatest of all time for sure. Nobody could

1288
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 4: beat that team.

1289
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: Who was so it was name that wrote who who's

1290
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: on that roster with y'all?

1291
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 3: Derek Fisher, Ron Harper, Brian Shaw, Rick Fox Horse, Grant

1292
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: Shack Cold.

1293
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 2: There, Yeah you came.

1294
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 3: Robert or Yeah. So I mean it wasn't.

1295
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 4: I'm just basing off of shock and Cold, like people

1296
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 4: talk about, you.

1297
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: Know, Draymond got crazy, Like yeah, I mean nobody see

1298
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 3: the problem is what they don't understand is Shack, Like,

1299
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, we can you can double team guard Shack,

1300
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: forget everything, forget everything else, Like how you're gonna guard

1301
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: Shack Like that's that's the biggest thing, because now you're

1302
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: in the bonus for six minutes to go in the game.

1303
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 3: I mean, the in the quarter. Now Kobe gets loose,

1304
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: you can't touch him now. Line, So like how you

1305
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: gonna guard Shack? That's what people who understand like that was.

1306
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 3: That was the best. That was the great team of

1307
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: all time to me for sure, Kobe, any Kobe and

1308
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: Shack team, I don't see how you can how you

1309
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: can beat that team.

1310
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: Shack off the court, the biggest kid you'll ever meet

1311
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: on the court, a monster. You got to see both

1312
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: sides of him. Talk to us just about him as

1313
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: a person, and then off the court and on the court.

1314
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: Off the court, when of the funnels got ever been around,

1315
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: the biggest thing was shocked, Like he really genuinely cared

1316
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: about people, you know, like bought mad Dog a truck,

1317
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: bought me, you know, a whole wardrobe, bought me a car.

1318
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 3: When I first met him, I met him at Sentry Club.

1319
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: They come to my house tomorrow, my chepherd's cooking, come

1320
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 3: up to the crib. Gave me twenty thousand cash Like

1321
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 3: I'm in the league. Like you know what I'm saying, lockout,

1322
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like that's just who he is,

1323
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: Like he's a given person, you know, a genuine guy.

1324
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 3: And so I asked him one. I said, Man, Shack,

1325
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: how you be going out all the time. He's like,

1326
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: the more you go out, the more they see you,

1327
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 3: the more they won't bother you. Like, if I'm in

1328
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: the house and I don't ever come out see you

1329
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: see Shack, You're gonna go crazy. But man shocks at

1330
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: them all shocks at fat burgersh He's always out. So

1331
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 3: then it becomes, oh, it's just shocked. And it's kind

1332
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: of a smart way to live. So when you're that

1333
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: big time, you know what I'm saying, it's hard to

1334
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: go out you know a lot of times. And so

1335
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: he just kind of made itself like amongst the people,

1336
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 3: just put itself amongst the people, and it was an

1337
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: easy way for him to live. And it was it was.

1338
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: It was dope.

1339
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 4: But as a player, like the most dominant guy I've

1340
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: ever seen, Like, I mean, what can you do with him?

1341
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: Like post up? He could pass, He's aged put the

1342
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: ball on the floor passing. And I think, you know,

1343
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 3: I think when Field came to the Lakers in kind

1344
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: of games, some structure of putting that triangle in, I mean,

1345
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: it was over like just having some structure. But like

1346
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 3: he's the most dominant guy I've ever seen in my life.

1347
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 6: A lot of people, a lot of people forget that

1348
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 6: they was on their way to Ford Peton. You don't

1349
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 6: even remember that. Yeah, like they were going to win four. Yeah,

1350
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 6: that's crazy. Two thousand and one, you signed with the Wizards.

1351
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 6: What was it like playing with the foart of Yo MJ?

1352
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: I didn't care. He was ninety.

1353
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, come on, man, like, get a chance to

1354
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: play with with m Man. It was like it was

1355
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: a blessing, you know, like I said, my career has

1356
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: been blessed. Like I said it just when I first

1357
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: saw well, when he first called initially because he was

1358
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: he was part of the front office, and I heard

1359
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: his voice, I'm like, man, what are you serious? Like

1360
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 3: MJ calling me, like called and we want you to

1361
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: come in with the Wizards. Whatever he said, I'm thinking

1362
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: about coming back.

1363
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: You know.

1364
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 3: We didn't discuss it, you know, didn't. He didn't go

1365
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: public for a while. But then just when I first

1366
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 3: met him, just in Awe, man, like just having a

1367
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: chance to you know, see Black Jesus in person, like

1368
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: talk to him, be his teammate like I was in

1369
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: Awe and my first year playing with him, and I

1370
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: just didn't. I didn't know what to do, like you

1371
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like you know, throwing to him

1372
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 3: every time and just go stand or he's like no

1373
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: play like but you just get so messed with r

1374
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: By who he is about forty? He was forty, Hea

1375
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 3: was twenty points a game at the age of forty

1376
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: on one leg because his knee was messed up. He

1377
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 3: and he played eighty two games at the age of

1378
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: forty on one leg and play all eighty two games.

1379
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 4: So I mean, I just tell you who he is.

1380
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 7: Crazy eighty two games.

1381
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1382
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 6: Two thousand and three, Yeah, you're on five teams in

1383
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 6: five years. What's ther most memorable team since two thousand

1384
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 6: and three?

1385
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: After two thousand and three, Yeah, two thousand and three, I.

1386
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: Had a chance to play with Dirk and j Kidd

1387
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 4: in Dallas. That was dope.

1388
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 7: Glad you wasn't in two thousand and seven.

1389
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 3: Atlanta with Joe Johnson and Al and Twinna was good.

1390
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: But I think I didn't play in two thousand and nine.

1391
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: But I think that run the Dwight Howard never had

1392
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 3: when he went to the finals in two thousand and

1393
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: nine against the Lakers. That that was a fun year

1394
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: for me because it was my last year. I didn't

1395
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: play and I was just along for the ride. But

1396
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: it was it was It was a great ride.

1397
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: Speak to Dwight thought, because people don't understand. I think

1398
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: they currently And when he went to the Lakers, he

1399
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: hurt his back, that Dwight Howard because I came to

1400
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: the next year that that Dwight Howard.

1401
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that Dwight was supposed to be the

1402
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: next Shock and he could have been, like said, he

1403
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: didn't hurt his back, but dominant defensively, like one of

1404
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,959
Speaker 3: the best defensive players we've ever seen in this game.

1405
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: Like and then his athletic ability, you know, give me

1406
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: if he gets me on the defense, don't even just

1407
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 3: go the other way like it's a it's a dunk,

1408
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: it's over. And then when he mature and got better

1409
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: for ceiling the paint, ducking in because was great for him,

1410
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: stany ban gunny, like we're not gonna throw it to

1411
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: you on the post every single time, like we're gonna

1412
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: run stuff for charlotteis picking Poppy on now we're going

1413
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 3: down the gut. And it made the game easy for

1414
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: him and he was able to understand how easy it

1415
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: is to play the game, you know, and so. But

1416
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: like far as defensively, I've never seen a better defensive

1417
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: player in my time. You know, have you stacked? Yeah,

1418
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: I mean block shots, rebound and so. And then the

1419
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: athletic Billy had like far As going upstairs like he

1420
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: was dominant man. And it's unfortunately with injuries. You know,

1421
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: he hurt his back and you know, he wasn't ever

1422
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 3: like the same player. Still a really good player, you

1423
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, but he wasn't the same player,

1424
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: and the potential is like what he was supposed to

1425
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: be after he heard his back.

1426
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 7: What was the process of you land in the CALVS job?

1427
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: So?

1428
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: I was on doc staff in twenty thirteen and it

1429
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: was with Matt and CP, DeAndre Blake, JJ and Jamal

1430
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: So we had we had a great team. And after

1431
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: that summer, I mean after that season, it was summertime

1432
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: and I had a chance to interview Hick interview for

1433
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 3: the head coaching job with Cleveland, and so I flew

1434
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 3: down to Cleveland interview for the head coaching job. And

1435
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: when I left Cleveland, I flew back to Vegas. I

1436
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: could it was said. With summertime, I flew back to

1437
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: Vegas and so I thought I had the job. So

1438
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: David Griffin told me, like, you know, I think it's

1439
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: a good chance you might have a job, and so,

1440
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: you know, we want to prepare you for everything. So

1441
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 3: I called Doc like, man, I think I got a

1442
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: good chance to get the job. And then you know,

1443
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: a day later, it's like, you know what, we might

1444
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 3: go with David Black, you know. So I was like, Okay,

1445
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: I was kind of bummed about it. I was like,

1446
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: all right, cool, you know whatever, I'm going back to

1447
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: the Clippers. And so.

1448
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: They hired David Black.

1449
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: And then the next day David Griffin call was like, hey,

1450
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: we wanna make you associated head coach.

1451
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 4: I was like, no, I'm cool, Like I'm loyal, you

1452
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

1453
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: Sometime to a fault and I was like, no, I'm

1454
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: gonna stay with doct Like you know, if I'm on

1455
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: a DOC, I'm gonna get a head coaching job anyway,

1456
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: because he's the most you know, he's one of the

1457
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 3: top two or three coaches in the league. So I'm

1458
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: gonna get a head job anyway. And the team that

1459
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: we had was good enough to be on TV every night.

1460
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: I was a defensive coordinator and so I was gonna

1461
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: get the opportunity. So I wasn't really tripping about that.

1462
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: So then he came back. It was like, you know,

1463
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: we want to offer you one point two million a year,

1464
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: one point two, one point three, one point four. I'm

1465
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: getting three. I'm getting three seventy five with the Clippers.

1466
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, that's a lot

1467
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: of money. So I asked b Shaw. He said, man,

1468
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 3: you gotta take it. I was like, no, man, I'm

1469
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: loyal to Doc. You know I talked to j Jerry Wes.

1470
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 3: You know, he cussed me out, going you gotta take it.

1471
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: I said, nah, I'm gonna stay with Doc. Man, I

1472
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 3: ain't gonna take this job. He's like, man, if you

1473
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: don't leave Doc, now they gonna think you're never gonna

1474
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: be able to leave and they never offer your job.

1475
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: Like I was like, I'm not gonna do it. And

1476
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: so my agent said you sure, Like I'm sure. So

1477
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: we called Griff back like, no, he's not gonna do it.

1478
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: He said, well, what's he want to do. I was like,

1479
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: I just don't want to do say came back with

1480
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: another offer. I was like, nah, I ain't taking He said, well,

1481
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: what's he want? I said, man, just tell him one six,

1482
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: one eight, two million, two to two Major. Callback said done.

1483
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: I said what I like what he's like? They said yes.

1484
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 3: So I called Doc back and Doc was like, you

1485
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: know what, like to that kind of money you got

1486
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: to and I think it's time for you just kind

1487
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 3: of expand your wings and just kind of do your

1488
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 3: own thing and let people know that you can stand

1489
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: on your own.

1490
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 4: Was this That was twe fourteen.

1491
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 6: So you were there when I came for that short

1492
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 6: little time ten days for the clips.

1493
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 3: I was up for two weeks.

1494
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 4: I was gone, Yeah, I was gone, yeah. And so

1495
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 4: he's like, you gotta you gotta take that job.

1496
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: And so that's kind of like I went to Cleveland

1497
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: the first time and then coach Black guy fired medway

1498
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 3: through the season. I took over.

1499
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: What was it like sliding into that first because, like

1500
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: you said earlier, like Coach Black didn't do a terrible job.

1501
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did a good job.

1502
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 2: What was it like sliding over one seat?

1503
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 7: I think nobody, nobody just didn't know who he was, Like, yeah,

1504
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 7: I was.

1505
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 3: Scared to be. I was scared and I'll never forget,

1506
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: you know. David Griffin called me. I was my way

1507
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: to a dinni's appointment. He said, what are you doing?

1508
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: Someone my way to the dentist. He was like, we

1509
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: had a day off, and he was like, I need

1510
01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: you to come into the office. I was like, I

1511
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 3: got here's the point. He's like, just we scheduled come

1512
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 3: into the office. So I came into the office and

1513
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: he was like, how are you feeling. I'm feeling good.

1514
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 3: Like what's going on? He said, we just we just

1515
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 3: fired David. I was like, you know, David coach Black?

1516
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 3: Like who's He's like coach Black. I'm like why.

1517
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: He's like, we want to hire you to head coach.

1518
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I can't do it.

1519
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 3: Like I was scared. I'm serious, I'm scared. Like you

1520
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: got bron James, you got Kyrie k Love the expectations

1521
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: and so I was like, so I called Doc first.

1522
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 4: I said, man, I gotta call Doc.

1523
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 3: Called Doc. Doc said, Ty, you gotta take it to

1524
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: you know, black coaches don't get opportunity to have a

1525
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: championship caliber team. He said, yeah, he said, you ready,

1526
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: I said, Doc, I don't know if I'm ready. Like

1527
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I put it all the work in, but

1528
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 3: I've never sat there before, you know what I'm saying.

1529
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: I never said that before. And he was like, you

1530
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: got to take the job, Like you got to. I

1531
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: was like, man that called Jay West. He went crazy,

1532
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 3: you're going to take the job.

1533
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 5: If you don't, somebody else.

1534
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 3: Is gonna take it. So I like I took the job.

1535
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: And like I said, I was scared.

1536
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 4: I was nervous, you know because I didn't know, like

1537
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: we haven't had a training camp.

1538
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 3: It's not my team, it's not my play, like what

1539
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 3: we put in a lot of our stuff because you know,

1540
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 3: the second year we had to put more convention on

1541
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: NBA set tennents to oversee stuff. But it was just

1542
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: I was scared. And like I said, I give Kyrie

1543
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 3: Braun and k Love and trusting them to credit like

1544
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: they like, man, listen, do your thing.

1545
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 7: You ready, You're.

1546
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 3: Gonna make mistakes. We got your back one hundred percent.

1547
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: And that's what made my job a lot easier. And

1548
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: so like I said, shout out to those guys, you know,

1549
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 3: Shump and Jr. And trusting all those guys. They really

1550
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: had my back, and so I was able to make

1551
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: mistakes and kind of like learning to fly, and it

1552
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: made it easier for me.

1553
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: Uh, play with Kobe, play with Mike coaching Lebron.

1554
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 7: What was that?

1555
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: Like, I'm only one.

1556
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 4: Blessed again, like to you know, play with Kobe and

1557
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 4: and Jordan and then and then.

1558
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: You play against Lebron too.

1559
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1560
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like to be in the conversation of all

1561
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: three of those guys and being a feeling with all

1562
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: three of those guys, it's just a blessing, you know,

1563
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 3: three of our great greatest of all times. Yeah, to

1564
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: be three greats of all yeah, all time, and to

1565
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: be able to be a part of their lives and

1566
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: be a part of my lives. And I can call

1567
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, he can call me, and you know what

1568
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like it's just like Bron, you know, talked

1569
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: to him earlier today. Like that's just crazy to me

1570
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 3: being from Mexico, Missouri and just going through what you

1571
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 3: go through and not really having nobody look up to,

1572
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: you know, small towns, because you don't we ain't have

1573
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 3: nobody to look up to.

1574
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: We looked up to some guys we.

1575
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: Were supposed to look up to you. You know what

1576
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean, and so you know it's just it's a blessing, man,

1577
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 3: Like I think about it all the time, like where

1578
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 3: I come from and who I've been able to be

1579
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: affiliated affiliated with over the course of my career has

1580
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: been a blessing.

1581
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: Sound sixteen Finals against the Warriors one of your defining

1582
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: moments as a young coach. Obviously, take us back to

1583
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: that locker room down three to one. You didn't do

1584
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: the typical ship the coaches do walk us through that

1585
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 1: uh that moment, because it's funny. We just had Shump

1586
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: on here and Shump told us what Bron said on

1587
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: the bus to kind of get them going.

1588
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: And then you added your part to it.

1589
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 4: You to my game seven or just about the whole

1590
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 4: thing process.

1591
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1592
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: So we got down three to one, and I just

1593
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: felt we can beat them, like if some things we

1594
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: had to adjust and make some make some adjustments and

1595
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: some tweaks, but I just felt we can beat them.

1596
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 4: I swear I did.

1597
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: We got down three to one and I was like, man,

1598
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: so I called Bron into the officer to listen, we

1599
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: got to do this, this and this, and we can

1600
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 3: beat the and Brons on boards like man, they getting tired,

1601
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 3: they getting worn down. But some things we had to

1602
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: change defensively to kind of change that. And so I

1603
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,959
Speaker 3: came into practice before a game before we leave, before

1604
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: we left to go to game five, I said, listen,

1605
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: if you don't believe we can win, just stay here.

1606
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm being like, no bulls, like, just stay here,

1607
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: like we don't want you on the bus, we don't

1608
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: want on negativity. If you don't think we can win

1609
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: game five, just stay at home. We'll see you for

1610
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 3: game six. So we go there for game five and

1611
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 3: we win Game five. And so Kyrie had forty one,

1612
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 3: bron had forty three, whatever, and through after the game,

1613
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: everybody's in the locker room, all the coaches, on office people,

1614
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: the owners, their keyds, training staff. So so everybody in

1615
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: the locker room, give me two hundred dollars. It's like,

1616
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 3: give me two hundred dollars, players to everybody, and I'm

1617
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 3: gonna take it, and I'm putting the ceiling. And we

1618
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: come back to get our money for game seven. So

1619
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 3: I mean we had to go home and win game

1620
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 3: six and then come back for game seven, and so

1621
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 3: it's like what the man? Everybody, So everybody gave me

1622
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: them money, took it, wrapped it up, put in the ceiling.

1623
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: We go home, win game six. So we coming back,

1624
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 3: Bron get the speech and it was like listen, they

1625
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 3: getting worn out, They're getting tired. They getting like, we

1626
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: just got to keep going, keep going. So we get

1627
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: back for game seven, and you know, Bron was you know,

1628
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 3: Bron is bro. He can get twenty and ten in

1629
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: the and one half, just like growing out of bed.

1630
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 3: So but in the first half he was like he

1631
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: was just he wasn't doing enough for me, you know

1632
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So he come to the bench one time,

1633
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 3: he's like sitting on the bench and he said with

1634
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 3: legs crossed, he's like fire on his nails and something like.

1635
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: Djo's like, no, not right now, not I'm sorry. So

1636
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 3: d Jon's like not right now. I'm like, man, this dude,

1637
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 3: he blow he buzzing me, Like what's he doing? So

1638
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: then halftime comes and we go into the locker room

1639
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: and so a halftime you got the film and all

1640
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 3: the film. I's like, na, we ain't doing no films.

1641
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: To Bron, you got to be better, bro, He's like,

1642
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 3: what you mean, I got this? I said, I don't

1643
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: care about no stats. You got to be what you

1644
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: want me to do. T Lou guard Draymond, be aggressive,

1645
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: shoot the ball, stop turning the ball over anything else.

1646
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 3: He's like, man, I said, man, we need you to

1647
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: be better. If you want to win, it's on you.

1648
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 3: He's like, so I stormed off. I go in the

1649
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: locker room, stand in the door. Boom. So we go

1650
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: grab d Jones, d joing man with your boy tripping me.

1651
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 3: He's like, he's like who. He's like, man, T Lou,

1652
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 3: he talking a me. I ain't doing this and doing that.

1653
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 3: He said, well, man, listen, I ain't been here all year.

1654
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: But everything I read about how you trust him and

1655
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: how you why not trust you? Now? So Bron like,

1656
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 3: fuck you. So he go to James Jones, JJ, I

1657
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 3: can't believe man ty and then James Jones like Lebron's

1658
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: he lying fu he gratuated Boom, He stormed out of

1659
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 3: the locker room. In the second half, dominated the whole game,

1660
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: and so they're like, man, if you didn't get that

1661
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: speech at halftime, we went to one like you know

1662
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying? So like man Broun Man, yeah, I

1663
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: knew how to get him going like he can man,

1664
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 3: he can listen, bro, like he can score fifty anytime.

1665
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: He wont like, I'm like fifty anytime he wants, Like

1666
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 3: he just wants to play the game in the right way.

1667
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 3: But sometimes, man, the right way is man, we need

1668
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: to get fifty. Yeah. Yeah, so he can do that

1669
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 3: every night. And so I pushed that button, and so

1670
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 3: luckily I did.

1671
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 5: And you never heard.

1672
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 3: I heard the first part.

1673
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: I haven't heard him kind of going somewhere to stamp

1674
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 2: when he was he was wrong and was stamping it.

1675
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he went to djond On like, man, listen everything,

1676
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 3: bring in this ship, j J. I can't believe it.

1677
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 4: J Well, is he lying.

1678
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 3: J stuff? He stormed out of there and killed it

1679
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: and killed it, you know what I'm saying. So I'm

1680
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 3: glad I did that. Thanks Broun.

1681
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: In fact, taking us back to that Kyrie shot, UH

1682
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: talked to us about that shot. That's something that Clay

1683
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: said one of the biggest regrets of his life was

1684
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: switching that play.

1685
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 7: Uh.

1686
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: You know you have Bron, you have Kyrie into me

1687
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: Kyrie's hands. Walk us back through that process.

1688
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 3: So you remember Bron had just made that big block

1689
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: and he was exhausted, like he hadn't came out of

1690
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 3: the game the whole game, and so he was he

1691
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 3: was done. He was fried. And so we came to

1692
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: the bench. I think it was a man in thirteen

1693
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: left in the game, something like that, And we came

1694
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 3: back to the bench and then Bron's over there. He

1695
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: got the wet towel. He's just so I'm looking like shit, man,

1696
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to Kyrie. You know what I'm saying, Like

1697
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 3: he's exhausted. So we come out of the time out

1698
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: and we just run a twelve action with j R.

1699
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: And and Kyrie. We cleared the whole right side out

1700
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 3: and said, jay All, you got to set us a

1701
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: hard screen makeer and Kyrie you got to fly off

1702
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 3: to force to switch. Jay All said, a great screen,

1703
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 3: and then Kyrie came off. I ain't gonna take the three.

1704
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 3: I thought, go right, you know what I'm saying. Kyrie

1705
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: sized him up, stepped back to the right. That's one

1706
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 3: of the biggest shots in NBA history. I said, I

1707
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: don't care who was guarding them. It could have been anybody.

1708
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 8: That ship was cash Kye for those moments, like you know,

1709
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 8: he's a killer and who's his mentor Kobe, and so

1710
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 8: like he wanted that moment that one of the biggest shots,

1711
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 8: Like I said, the NBA history.

1712
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: Speak to Kyrie. You've got to play with a lot

1713
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: of greats. You coach some greats. I think he's someone

1714
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: who's very misunderstood. But speak to him as a as

1715
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: a person and a player.

1716
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 3: Well as a person. You know, Kyrie's a genuine person,

1717
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: you know, like if you get to know him and

1718
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: you know, you know who he is, he's genuine and

1719
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: so like a lot of guys, you just got to

1720
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 3: be straightforward direct with him, you know, just tell him

1721
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: what you want, what you need, and he's gonna listen

1722
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 3: and do that. And so sometimes you misunderstood. You know,

1723
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: Kyrie is Kyrie that I only listen to none of

1724
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 3: that nonsense. And so I know the relationship that we had,

1725
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: which we had a great relationship, and it wasn't for him,

1726
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't be sitting today like that big shot man.

1727
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 3: That that's that solidified my career as a coach, winning

1728
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: the championship, and so I always, you know, forever love

1729
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 3: him for that.

1730
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 4: But as a player, no weaknesses, man, go left, go right,

1731
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 4: pull up.

1732
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 3: Three going right, pull up three going left, catch and shoot,

1733
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 3: post up, finish left, finish right, float whatever you want,

1734
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 3: he can do it like no weaknesses offensively at all.

1735
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 4: And so I mean he's a bad dude, man, a

1736
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 4: bad dude.

1737
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: So this year you're you're you're joning coach Kerr uh

1738
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: staff for the Fever Cup. Can you speak to us

1739
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: about that?

1740
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: Man? Just a blessing, you know, I always want to

1741
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: be part of the USA team. Of course you want

1742
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: to be a player. But I wasn't good enough, you know,

1743
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: of course, but you grew up, you know, watching you know,

1744
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: Magic and Bird and all those guys playing the Olympics

1745
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 3: and the dream teams, and you always dreamed of, you know,

1746
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: being there one day. And so my opportunities coming and coaching,

1747
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 3: So I thank Sean Ford and Steve Kerr and forgive

1748
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: me this opportunity to be an assistant coach. So it's

1749
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: me Steve Kerr, Eric Spostra, Mark Feu and so just

1750
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 3: having an opportunity to be you know, on this staff

1751
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: is a blessing.

1752
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: Man.

1753
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 3: Medal, yeah, and get a gold medal and add that

1754
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: to my resume as well, you know. So it's it's

1755
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 3: crazy man.

1756
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 7: Appreciate.

1757
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've done it yet, but it'll

1758
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: probably come at some point. You and Steve Kurt sitting

1759
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: down and having a glass or you don't drink so

1760
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: you have some water, him having some wine and talk

1761
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: about that sixteen Finals.

1762
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 7: Gonna roll one probably, he said, you know, he know

1763
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 7: his bag was hurting.

1764
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: Took a little bit, you know.

1765
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 6: What.

1766
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 3: It's never and we're good friends, and we never talked

1767
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 3: about it, you know, we never mentioned it.

1768
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1769
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: I wonder if he ever brings it up, you know,

1770
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 3: but we've never talked about it.

1771
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: It's crazy because, I mean you think about historical significance.

1772
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: Obviously that was your guy's first ring. But they have

1773
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: the best record in the history of the game and

1774
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: would have got a championship on top of it, but

1775
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: y'all derailed that.

1776
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, I won a championship with Steve kursh world.

1777
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.

1778
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: Can you compare It doesn't have to be necessarily gains,

1779
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: but can you compare the Kyrie and Lebron duo to

1780
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: Shack and Kobe in any ways?

1781
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1782
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 5: I mean you can.

1783
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: Because I see as Kyrie is like Kobe, It's like

1784
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 3: a finesse player that can get it down from anywhere

1785
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 3: on the floor, and I see shaking Kobe's it's just dominant,

1786
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 3: like just dominant for yeah, just dominant forces. So the comparison,

1787
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 3: you know, Lebron doesn't play center, but he's dominant, powerful, strong,

1788
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: so you can kind of have that comparison. And I

1789
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: wish we would have never broke that up, man like

1790
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: that that come on man like breaking up Cob and Shack,

1791
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 3: I hate it, and then breaking up Kyrie Bron, I

1792
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: hate it. Like those are two things that could have

1793
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: been dominant for a long time. So you know, I

1794
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: always look back on on everybody else because I like

1795
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 3: what everybody else does.

1796
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 4: I don't really care about myself.

1797
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 3: But those are two things I wish would have never happened,

1798
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 3: with the Kyrie Bron situation and in the Shaq and

1799
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 3: Cobe situation because that could have been special, a lot

1800
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: more juice to squeeze.

1801
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 6: Whats So for me, Kyrie and Braun because I could

1802
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 6: see that, I could see it I was competing with

1803
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 6: k you know what I'm saying that I could watch

1804
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 6: them too just years when you know what I'm saying, champions,

1805
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 6: I would love to see that. Why what's your opinion.

1806
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 6: Why do you think Kyrie hasn't found a true home

1807
01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 6: since Cleveland.

1808
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 3: Hopefully? Well, I mean it's his choice, like Boston wanted

1809
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 3: them back, you know, but he has it's a decision

1810
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 3: he wanted to make and go elsewhere. And know, I'm

1811
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: the same thing with Brooklyn. He could have went back

1812
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: to Brooklyn, and so like, as a player, you gotta

1813
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 3: do what's best for you. And so I think those teams,

1814
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: you know, were love, they loved, they wanted them back,

1815
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, And so it's just something he want to

1816
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 3: do for his career, Like he wanted to move on

1817
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 3: and experience something different, and so you know, he could

1818
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 3: have he could have stayed in those places. So I

1819
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 3: don't think it's something necessarily that they didn't want him back,

1820
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 3: you know. So it's more of his decision. Yea.

1821
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: I love Superstar movement in the game, though normally guys

1822
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: like us move Yeah, cho, but I love Superstar movement

1823
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: because it's just it keeps you you tuned into the

1824
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: game year around, but then you just get to see

1825
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: different combinations play with each other that you might never

1826
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: obviously have seen maybe back in the day.

1827
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate season tournament.

1828
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 3: I really don't know much about it, you know. I

1829
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 3: was on you know, in the meet with the competition

1830
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 3: committee and we talked about a little bit. But you know,

1831
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 3: my thing is what it is best to go to

1832
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: the league and go to the NBA. And Adam Silver

1833
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: has a great vision.

1834
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 6: You know, you already got know's low managing. You want

1835
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 6: to put him in tournaments now, let's come on.

1836
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 3: It's not more games. Though, it's not more games. You

1837
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 3: still got to play those games anyway. And I just think,

1838
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 3: you know, it gives the fans something to see, something different,

1839
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: something to be excited about. Though well the championships the

1840
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 3: home mind, Yeah, I don't mind that. But like I said,

1841
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 3: Adam Silver's done a great job of growing to the NBA. Man,

1842
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 3: Like the playing tournament is going to be We'll see,

1843
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 3: but I think it'd be great. And just like the

1844
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: you know, make it to the playoffs, you know, just

1845
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 3: having you know, ten teams like that's been great. You know,

1846
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 3: So we'll see, Yeah, we'll see what happens.

1847
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 7: What coaches do you like to coach against?

1848
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 6: Any coaches like you just get up for like any

1849
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 6: of your homeboys and coach like, oh yeah, I get

1850
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 6: to get at him tonight.

1851
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1852
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 4: I love coach against Chauncey.

1853
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know that, you know, but Chos has

1854
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: changed a lot, you know, from you know player, he

1855
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 3: was a so you're getting all the technical fouls and

1856
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 3: now I got a good you know, calm to mean

1857
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 3: on the sideline.

1858
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just seeing him do it. It's funny, man,

1859
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 4: just being calm.

1860
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: I love coaching against Steve Kerr obviously, and I loved

1861
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 3: coaching against Brad Stevens when Brad was there, you know,

1862
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 3: Brad was you know, like he motivated me, you know,

1863
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 3: being being in Cleveland, he was in Boston. They was

1864
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 3: always like the team we had to get past and

1865
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 3: get to the finals. And so I always loved coaching

1866
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 3: against him. And I ain't really like coaching against Doc.

1867
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: I ask my mentor, I just don't they don't feel right?

1868
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: Like looking down I'm looking at Doc like, I just

1869
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 3: don't it don't it don't feel right, It don't seem right,

1870
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 3: you know, so.

1871
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 2: Real quick, uh.

1872
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: I think it was Chancey spoke. When Chancey was I

1873
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: think debating on becoming a coach. Did he come stay

1874
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: with you for like a crash course or.

1875
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 3: So covid Hit, and so I went to Denver and

1876
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 3: stayed with Chancey for two months. Yeah, and so he

1877
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 3: was trying to get into the front office stuff. And

1878
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 3: but I've been telling himself in Cleveland, said, man, come

1879
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 3: and coach, like, you got a lot of knowledge for

1880
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 3: these young guys.

1881
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 4: And I mean, you'd be great that And he's like.

1882
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 3: Noah, I want through the front office. I want to

1883
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 3: be a GM president. And so like when covid Hit,

1884
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 3: I went to stay with Chian for two months and

1885
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 3: I brought my board and I'm working in all this

1886
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: and he dove right into. It's like, man, I want

1887
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 3: to try. It's like all right, So every day we

1888
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: on the on the board, getting better with that. We're

1889
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 3: watching film, breaking down film. He had a basketball court,

1890
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: you know, this house and we going to court like

1891
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 3: going through things and that next that next seat. He

1892
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 3: joined my staff. You know with the Clippers. You got

1893
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 3: a job next year, you know, first year, you got

1894
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: a job. And so he dove right into it. Man,

1895
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 3: and he's been great. Man Like, his personality is, demeanor

1896
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 3: is great, and he's gonna be a great coach.

1897
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: Leader.

1898
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 3: He's a leader for sure.

1899
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 7: How tough, how tough can coach and be on your

1900
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 7: health and mental health.

1901
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 3: Really tough, you know, really tough because you know, as

1902
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 3: a player, you know, you lose a game like it's

1903
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 3: I think it's more collectively. We all lose together, you know,

1904
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: unless you miss it. You know, you miss a game

1905
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 3: winning shot and you match yourself for a while. But

1906
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 3: as a coach, when you lose a game, you take

1907
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 3: it all home every single night, like what could I

1908
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 3: have done different? You know, could I sub better? Could

1909
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 3: I call different plays like rotations like? And so when

1910
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 3: you lose a game as a coach, it goes home

1911
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 3: with you every single night. It's hard to sleep.

1912
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 1: And we know as players we could turn it off

1913
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: for a little while the least. Yeah, y'all can't turn

1914
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: it off thinking about what you could have done. But

1915
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: then also I got to prep for the next team.

1916
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so as a role player, I'm not never

1917
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 4: had to do media.

1918
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I play the game, I

1919
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: make a mistake, I ain't gotta never address the media,

1920
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 3: so I go home. I can live with it.

1921
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1922
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 3: As a coach, I'm out front every single day, you know,

1923
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 3: every single day, every single night, And so when you

1924
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: lose a game, man, you take it home every single night.

1925
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 3: And that's that's the hard part. Like so farjudr mental health,

1926
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 3: Like you know, you get anxiety because you know, like

1927
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 3: you waiting for the next game or what can I

1928
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: do different? Like yeah, anxious you lose three or four

1929
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 3: in a row, like we gotta get off this slide.

1930
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 3: So it's a lot that goes into it, man, and

1931
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 3: people don't understand. So, you know, a lot of people

1932
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 3: have a lot of you know, criticism with coaches about

1933
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 3: coaches and things like that. But it's a tough job.

1934
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 4: It's a tough job.

1935
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 3: It's a tough grind.

1936
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 4: It's a lot that goes into it, and you got

1937
01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: to wear a lot of different hats every single day.

1938
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 7: Give me two players you like watching outside of your team,

1939
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 7: Kyrie for sure.

1940
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 4: And then I love watching Jah.

1941
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1942
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 4: I love watching Jah.

1943
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean we got a lot of other greats

1944
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 3: you know, of course, but you know, I love watching Jah.

1945
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 3: I love watching you know, kind of do his thing,

1946
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: your boxing fan. Yes, don't bring it up, please, Spence Crawford.

1947
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 3: I love both of them.

1948
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Young black you know, or

1949
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:29,799
Speaker 4: young black.

1950
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Speaker 7: You can't go wrong before you you can't go wrong

1951
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 7: either way.

1952
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 4: Well, no, I mean, I'm going with Bud because he's

1953
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 4: from Nebraska.

1954
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: I love I love Spence too, and everything he's brought

1955
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 3: to the game, And so we don't want to see

1956
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 3: them fight because I love both of them. But you know,

1957
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 3: since they got a fight on a big payday, it's

1958
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: a big money maker and everybody wants to see it,

1959
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: so they gotta do it for their career. I gotta

1960
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: I gotta go with Bud because it's hometown, is my guy.

1961
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go with Bud.

1962
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 7: What you got where I'm from.

1963
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 6: You know I'm wrong the big fish. You're not catching

1964
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 6: me with no fish board. You better get a harpoon,

1965
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 6: the big fish not. I like it because it's the

1966
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 6: dynamic of both of them.

1967
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 7: At the top.

1968
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 3: Arrow had, I mean Bud has.

1969
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 6: He's one of the best counterpunchs you'll ever see, right,

1970
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 6: and he can hit with both hands. His speed, He's

1971
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 6: gonna show Arrow a lot of things he's never seen before,

1972
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 6: as far as a boxer and as far as getting hit.

1973
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 6: But Arrows from the hit Bud with power that he's

1974
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 6: never thought was possible. You know, what I'm saying, both

1975
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 6: of them take you to another level. They both they

1976
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 6: both bringing something that they've never seen. So that's why

1977
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 6: I want to see it. But either way you go

1978
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 6: on this fight, you can't lose because both of them

1979
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 6: to go.

1980
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them were gonna be here.

1981
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna be here.

1982
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,839
Speaker 1: Here, Jack, I'm gonna be having a couple of packs showtime,

1983
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: box Man, We really appreciate your time. Before we get

1984
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: you out of here, we're gonna have some quick hitters.

1985
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: So first thing to come to mind, beside yourself. Three

1986
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: best coaches in the game at in game adjustments. In

1987
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 1: game adjustments, Yes, yeahpose great. Steve Kerr curs great.

1988
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 4: And then let me see who always talk about doodle?

1989
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Taylor Jenkins. Yeah, I like Taylor Jenkins too.

1990
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like to Mike Malone. I really felt like

1991
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: the and Mike Malone was chess for a little while. Yeah,

1992
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean in the finals, Taylor Jenks,

1993
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: that's a good call.

1994
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Taylor Jenkins, I'm still a go oh yeah, I mean,

1995
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 3: come on, some stuff in games Bro. I never thought

1996
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 3: it was possible, but you know how, the talent like you,

1997
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying different, but Pops, come on,

1998
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 3: he had the players to do it.

1999
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 4: Come on, man, he's a goal for sure.

2000
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: One album will.

2001
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 7: Repeat, no skips, baby, which one the last one?

2002
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 3: Okay, okay he said that Queen a little baby. M J.

2003
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 2: Kobe Brown wrinkle.

2004
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 3: Nope, nope, no, no, I'm no.

2005
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: That's about what do you love about Mike.

2006
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 3: At the age of forty Just his killer instinct, like

2007
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 3: he was still a killer. And then the biggest thing

2008
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: is like there's a young player. You come out still

2009
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: that's my third my fourth year, you know. So you

2010
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 3: think you're working hard until you actually get around somebody

2011
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 3: that's working hard for real. And so coming to practice,

2012
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: you get there hour and a half early. Jordan's already done,

2013
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 3: laugh it up, don't lift it alright under his court workout,

2014
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 3: He's finished, He's done, And I'm just not getting to

2015
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 3: the gym. And so you see guys like Cob and

2016
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 3: Bron and Jordan's then work the kind of like I

2017
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 3: ain't really working, you know what I'm saying. I thought

2018
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: I was working hard, but I really ain't. And so

2019
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: like just seeing Jordan work at the age of forty,

2020
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 3: the way he worked every single day to play eighty

2021
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 3: two games that just showed you kind of work you

2022
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 3: put in the killer and then just the biggest thing

2023
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: is just like never giving in. Like after the Utah

2024
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 3: series when shot the airballs, he could have folded, and

2025
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 3: just to see like from that that moment on, he

2026
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 3: worked even harder to get to the point where he

2027
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 3: was at. And like, you know, I still cry sometimes

2028
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 3: thinking about it, looking at old pictures and stuff, just

2029
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 3: you know, knowing we lost a great man. And so

2030
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 3: to this day, I can't stay at the Bohemian in Orlando,

2031
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 3: That's where I was at when it happened.

2032
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 4: I can't. I told the team, I'm not staying there.

2033
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 3: So if y'all book us there, your Mama's give me

2034
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: another room because I can't do it. And so just

2035
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: seeing him and just how he prepared and how he

2036
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 3: was able to, you know, keep pushing forward and being

2037
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 3: one of our greates man like it was, it was,

2038
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:41,879
Speaker 3: it was amazing.

2039
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 7: Every time I watched the episode we had with an

2040
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 7: interview with my breakdown.

2041
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Bron, bro Bron. I just love how he

2042
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 3: was able to change the game as far as picking

2043
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 3: where he wanted to go. Like you said, the stars,

2044
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: be able to move having movement, but also so be

2045
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 3: able to take on his team like with Rich Paul

2046
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 3: and Maverick Carter, Randy Mimes, and just be able to

2047
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 3: put those guys together, put them in school, put them

2048
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 3: through classes, and now they're running multis real businesses, you

2049
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And so to put his guys

2050
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 3: in position to run real businesses, not worrying about what

2051
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 3: the outside people thought or they're his friends.

2052
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 4: No, these guys are educated and they know what they're doing.

2053
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 4: And Bron showed that.

2054
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 3: And so for him be able to change the game,

2055
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 3: to build the school in Ohio, and the things he's

2056
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 3: done for the game and for everybody like Kevin Durant,

2057
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: be able to have the board room and like just

2058
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 3: the things he's able to that we've been able to

2059
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 3: see with Bron and things he's done, you know, far

2060
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 3: as the business side of basketball has been phenomenal.

2061
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: Bron created the real Entourage had the show. They had

2062
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: the show on h Field, but Bron created the real real.

2063
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 6: I say that all the time to every basketball player

2064
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 6: that came around, tried that with their homeboys, and he

2065
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 6: the only one to get it right, right, completely right.

2066
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I mean.

2067
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: So he did go for that along for sure as

2068
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: dead or alive and he five people sit down at

2069
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: the table, you plus five at dinner Biggie pop.

2070
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 3: For sure, that's that's right to it. Yes, what what?

2071
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 6: I don't know why people don't y'all don't know what.

2072
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 6: Tu is a ghetto baby. He might not look like it,

2073
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 6: don't talk like it.

2074
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 3: But trust me, Bro, he from that President Obama, Muhammad

2075
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 3: Ali And at least.

2076
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 4: I say, Denzel nice, Denzel.

2077
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: Around around that off.

2078
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you could see one guest on our show,

2079
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 6: who would it be? But you have to help us

2080
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 6: get your answer on the show.

2081
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: You said someone calls you and you talked to on

2082
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: the phone today and him.

2083
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 5: You flex a little bit.

2084
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 3: You flex a little bit people to We just talked

2085
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 3: to him another day today today.

2086
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, for someone you you would like to see on

2087
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 2: the show that you can help us.

2088
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 5: Get yea Lebron James okay cool, Yeah, I'm okay, man.

2089
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. As Jack said, Man, things happen to

2090
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: good people.

2091
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: Bro. And I got a chance to meet you when

2092
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: I was seventeen eighteen. You've always been the same way,

2093
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: never got too big now you can't it big, but.

2094
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

2095
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: But always, but always mild manner, cool down the earth,

2096
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: do the same way, man. So really happy of just

2097
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: your you know, your your grind, your growth to the league,

2098
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: to coaching now and I'm guarantee whatever you want to do,

2099
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: continue to do or after this you'll succeeded it.

2100
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 3: Man.

2101
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 6: So think they they can't talk about the AI said

2102
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 6: and say you wasn't a Hall of Fame player, but

2103
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 6: you're definitely finna be a Hall of Fame coach.

2104
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 7: Yes sir, yes sir.

2105
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 3: But that's a wrap.

2106
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Tyron Lou all the smoke.

2107
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: You can catch us SoC Showtime Basketball YouTube and the

2108
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 1: iHeart platform Black Effects.

2109
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: We'll see y'all next week