WEBVTT - EP 97: The Goodie Mob Chronicles 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.760 When I wrote, y'all all across the USC Compton Watts 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.719 Bay to l A from on the California the Valley, 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.360 we represent that Kelly County. So if you're keeping it 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.160 real on your side of your town, you tune into 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:22.360 Gangster Chronicles, Gangster the Goals. He gonna tell you how 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.200 we go. If I lie my nose a girl like Pinocchio, 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.040 We're gonna tell you to choose and nothing but the 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:32.640 truth Gangster cron the Goals. This is not your average show. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.720 You're now tuned into the Reil M C E. Bick, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:45.199 James and Bi Stails from the streets. Hello, where are 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.680 you at? This is o G Gangster Granny and the 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:53.440 Gangster Chronicles podcast is bad in effect. Get ready for 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.880 some of that G ship and blease up one of 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.800 the We like to welcome to every one with another 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:05.600 episode against the Chronicles podcast. And I wrote my Homeboys, Jill. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.959 You know, back in the nineties, New York ran the game, 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.000 and then death Row came and the game change. You 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.280 know what I'm saying. Two thousands said the South had 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.000 something to say, and here therey' all to day one 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.440 for homies who come together. The further a Mantage moved, 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.760 Timo big Get Cool joined Clo. Now known that the 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.959 world is Goody Marvel hit the Sooner, one of the 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.200 first clicks in the South. The Dungeon Family with two 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.000 peoples they would definitely be the Justice League. The debut 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.440 album sold about the ninety five Lakes the super producer 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.080 Rico Way's beats. These brothers showed the world that the 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.280 South had real lyricists, and they forced the world by 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:40.959 don't a matter of fact, you know what I'm saying. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.000 And then they came up with the phrase the dirty South. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:44.760 A lot of people don't get your credit for that. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.680 What I'm saying, let's broke my niggas goody mind, what's 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:55.000 correctly bro with a great introduction, my brother. Yes, and 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.000 that's what you're to do with men. You know in 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.880 the prints of kings, man, you gotta truth them in 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.880 such feel the uh back man when you all started. Man, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.760 I'm looking at the South as our cousins. Man, you know, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.960 the West Coast and South we always got a long 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.160 real good I see a lot of the homies running around. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:11.720 O here we go and vice versa. You know, we 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.080 go down there man, and um, you know, like my roots. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.560 Man from Mississippi and miss mimpis Tennessee eight. You know 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.120 what I'm saying, Mississippi and Florida, James, I'm a gaff. Indeed, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.720 I'm Mississippi. I'm Gulfport, Mississippi and Pampa Bay, Florida and 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:34.120 miss my roots. That that's great. Yeah my mom my 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.240 mom is from Gulfport, Mississippi. So I took plenty of 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:42.880 trips down the Gulfport right right. Well, you know we 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.000 used to jump in the curtain everything man to ride 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.519 down South Man. And I ain't gonna say, Man, that 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.519 New York was necessarily Hayden because the things is cool, 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.360 they said, you know what I'm saying, But when you know, 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.680 the West first came out, man, because you know Luke 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.360 and Mr. Mixing Too was good friends of mine. They 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.440 told me how to catch cut the mics out on 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.079 them when he was on stage, you know, just doing 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.280 all kind of stuff when you're first in the game, Man, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:17.000 what kind of positions with y'all? Me for the East Coast? 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.240 The first video, the first video, as soon as we 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.320 dropped seals there. If we got banned from MTV, they 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:27.239 labeled us races. So soon as we came out, we 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.720 was hit with a ceiling because we were speaking, uh, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.480 something different than what was going on during the days. 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:37.400 But I mean, like you said, uh, it really was 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.960 never the people in New York. It was just always 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.840 the people up in them buildings. They just wasn't gonna 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.720 respect where we was from it. And I think we 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.280 always put it like this, like the first time we 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.839 went to the Source of Wars, that was the first time, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.840 and I think all of us saw each other in 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.400 the flesh. We had just been watching all of us. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.400 Everybody was watching each other on b T. But I 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.800 mean that the Source of World, that's the person night 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.200 I really got to see eight. That's the first night 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.880 I've seen quick. That's the first thing I've seen death 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:11.120 rolling everybody in the flesh routine. And I feel like 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.000 from that night, we left there just feeling like we're 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.680 gonna make the music. We're gonna make the music to 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.159 make them respect us. And I know that's the same 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.039 way the West Coast felt that night, like yo, man, 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.440 like we earned the respect, give us the respect. So 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.919 we left there with that chip on our shoulder like 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.320 we're gonna keep your ass man for the next ten 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:37.080 years and we did that, y'allure did that, man, because 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.360 I know, I'll here man, and I don't know how 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.400 they continue to seale there some racist man, you know, 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:47.360 because what what what was basically considered racist and content 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.279 that they said y'all was talking about, I mean, or 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.320 the images of the videos I mean because if it 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.479 keev I mean the video motherfucker's. They was banning a 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.480 lot of our ship back then. I mean myself included 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:07.880 you on me, right, Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure where 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.960 they caught when they wented off relations because I just 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:14.520 think that you know, the the information you know, um, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.080 you know that we were general and that we was 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.920 exposing or addressing. You know, I just found like they 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.440 had to be able to classify it in some regard 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.440 and where they come write it off to the song 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.000 because we were you know what I mean, because we 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.080 were you know, we we we were being affected with 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.760 the information too. You know, it was coming to hit 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.600 record at the time, That's what I think, you know 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.599 what I mean? Yeah, y'all definitely came with like with 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.279 the sale Therapy record, man, y'all talked about that was 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.960 really like a prophecy. Almost all the ships, y'all talked 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.000 about and that record man is happening right now. That 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:54.120 that ever suck you all up? Yeah, Man, looked at 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.800 the ship Man. It was some of that stone was 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.719 answered happening right then, and just one publicized. You know 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.680 what I'm saying. It want nobody to speak on it, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.480 you know what I mean. So we were speaking on 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:07.120 it for folk, just not really connected with it because 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.680 it's in everybody's face right now, you know. So we're 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.240 talking about pree iPhone, you know what I mean. This 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.480 that was before this generation, you know what I mean. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.920 Only it's something totally different from something a totally different 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.640 times on tom War. So the information that we passed 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.920 right now so fast, it's just man, I'm just I'm 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.240 just thankful man that that right now we're relevant. Man, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.880 people got gotta help what we gotta say. Man, I'm 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.800 glad you all were able to hear that ship Man 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.800 because the ship Man is serious right now. If you 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.719 look at what's going on. We got a different president 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.919 in place, But you know, what's what's what's the underlying 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.760 issue that we all see right now? What's what's the 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.240 unseen hand? Right now? You can't get to relax. Yeah, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.760 we got a bad thing. Who gonna take it? You 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.520 know what I'm saying, y'all don't want to take it. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.760 I don't want to take it, but some people take it. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.279 So it's like, you know what's it's a it's a 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.040 big money play. It's a big money play right now? Yeah, 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:13.520 yeah exactly, Yeah exactly. And that that's the thing right there. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.440 It's like in Atlanta, you all seeing so different because 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.720 it's a black city. It's like I was telling it 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.880 before we came on. I went down Niggas, my MoMA 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.960 live down there. That ship is like the conda. It 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.320 feels so good to walk in the soul food restaurant 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.080 without seeing the Japanese person back they're cooking my greens 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.080 made to the people. But a going out. You know, 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.880 when you go to the soul food restaurant, you want 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:41.400 to see a big black woman look like I don't 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.680 want to just like I just like if I go 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.440 to a typic place, I want to see it mixed 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:53.480 into with my tapels. I don't want to go back. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:59.840 And taco too is different than Mexican typos are black. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.920 You know, you you go, you go, you see a 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.080 nigger back there and make picking some tacos that you 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:14.760 fail to get that, but ground beet and key now. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.560 And I was always able to make the connection between 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.800 the South and the West Coast because you know, we 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.200 were doing taxi suits at court suit, you know what 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.320 I'm saying. So even if even in the even in 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.280 the fashion, you know what I'm saying, or maybe the 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.880 draw or the way that was spoken, man made through that, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:42.000 uh make that that connection with the West Coast, you know, yeah, 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.560 exactly like I see it, Rick Cousins, because you know 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.760 when I go down to um if you remember back 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.320 in the nineties, man, you know when you would go 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.679 to Houston, Atlanta of different places, we all addressed the 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.680 same the reason we worked church. That was true. M hmm, 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.079 it was true. But it's just like you know, that 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.960 was that was our uniform, man, that was our daily 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.480 motherfucking uniform, a khaki super ship. It it'd be fined 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:13.200 who we were as uh as motherfucker's with our signature 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.000 on the West Coast, you know, Uh, it was our state, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.760 you know what I'm saying, wearing the khaki suit, you 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.120 know what I'm saying. So that's where a lot of 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.400 picked up and I think from the South gravitate because, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.560 like I said, I went to the South a lot 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.559 to take trips, you know, some of vacations and ship 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.680 like that, family reunions. You know. I never ventured to 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.679 the East coast. Yeah, find a record deal, you get me. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.640 So both most of my family vacations in the summer 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.440 vacations was going down the Gulport, Mississippi, or going to Houston, 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.400 Texas or Louisiana somewhere like that. So I think that's 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.440 where the music trying to laid us cousins, because we 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:55.120 kind of familiarized ourselves with each other. What's the difference 0:09:55.160 --> 0:10:00.880 between and yeah, Atlanta, what's the difference in a later 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.080 New York? I mean to me, I look at real 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:11.959 motherfuckers and back then you have real motherfuckers rapping and 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.600 a loose to that. So it really wouldn't know different 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.240 to me. Whenever I went out of town with SHO, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.280 you all still have to be ready because you know, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.960 motherfuckers say all the motherfuckers ain't killers down there? Bullshit, 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.800 everybody killers every I mean, you know, you got rappers 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:33.320 all over the place. What made different? I don't, I don't. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.079 I still don't understand that. What's what's the difference between 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:43.480 Atlanta and l A when to well, I'll tell you 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:50.200 what the difference is. Uh. The difference was in Atlanta, 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:57.000 gangsters couldn't be gangsters on the outside. The coffee gangsters 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:02.280 in this city was considered keen. What's considered abane because 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.840 consider those kind of people. Those were the real gangsters 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.240 because to us, they beat the system. So when it 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:14.160 came to three ships, like real gangsters really had to 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.800 talk to them politicians back then, like Jos Williams was 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.160 a real gangster, but he was super you know what 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.040 I mean. It was just the presentation of it was 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.880 totally different, and it was about damn near it was. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.400 It was in the church. Those were church men that 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.640 was doing all that over Those were actually church But 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:39.320 at the same time too, gangsters were really they were different, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.960 like like I didn't know different between West Coast and 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.800 certain gangsters too. I went to Denver, Colorado, and my 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.520 cousin get up and that was the first time I 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.600 got introduced to gang bangers. And when he would get 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.120 up in the morning, he would instantly to get his 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.960 get an iron out, do his T shirt, do his cakie. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.480 That was every day ship. You know what I mean, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.360 Like damn, Like he was like, Yo, this's a uniform, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.880 you know what I mean? And I and I didn't. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.679 That was the first time that I got in the 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.520 car and they went on who Rides. That was the 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.240 first time that I heard et for then to click 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.320 too short, y'all, you know what I mean? End up, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.600 That was the first time. And to be able to 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:30.360 be in a game banging environment. When I came back home, 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:36.000 I was turned out. It was like something that I 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:41.400 never experienced before, so I didn't I didn't recognize what 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.480 it was until I got into the environment of Gang Bang. 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.240 It's a difference when you see people on TV and 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.720 they're wearing the cakies and you're like, like, you never 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.120 knew why easy to eat board khakis and had a 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.480 skull capital because you're like, y'all in the West comes 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.839 it should be hot everything. But you didn't see that 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.360 at night they get cool. You need Joe Fleming. You 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.319 know what. When I got that, when I got to 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.880 Denver and I got around other game bangers, I saw 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:13.760 how to dress and the environment all made sense exactly exactly. 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.400 Let me ask you this, man, I understand that that's 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:22.679 that's when I really understood that the uniform with game 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.240 bangings a read it's a reason why because they consider 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.240 theirselves soldiers and for toombs and these are sex and 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.560 we are and this is our uniform. And you don't 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.760 know that when you're watching it from the kids that 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.679 standpoint on this side of the TV. You know what 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.360 I mean. When I watched you know what I mean. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.120 So you don't know until you get into the environment. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.199 Why courts, that's why why you wear courts. Many diggers 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:52.319 down here that whoe dickies, the niggas actually used to 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.600 work on cars, you know something about work in the 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:59.400 warehouse that would be they work closed. I mean they 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.160 want absolutely banging. But they was like some family diggers 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.280 that if you funk with them with their family, then 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.520 it's on. You know what I mean. That's the tax 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.720 what I mean, Like to this day, I go speaking 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.520 something yo, dude, the wet diggers, and and he just 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:21.080 wet Diggs because should you could go to Walmart still 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.680 clothes from dick He said close, you gotta spend a 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.680 whole once you got their money on the clothes like 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.080 they're doing right now. So I definitely don't hain't saluted 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.840 y'all man for that ship man, because she we were 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.440 wearing them whole suits, them whole overalls. You know what 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.920 I mean. It's just really just in the trap, you 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.160 know what I'm saying, Just that that was our trapped gil. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.240 You know what I'm talking about. Up on that ship. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.760 We just had out read. But once we jumped into 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.160 that ship, it was time to go to work. Whether 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.840 you was clocking me in ninety five or when you 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.160 was traveling from nine to five, you know what I mean. So, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.880 I mean, it ain't even a no big difference between us. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:02.720 It's just a time zone really. You know well, I 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.680 said that every time every time I do records or 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.720 when I used to put our records and ship and 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.280 I used to talk to motherfucker's I always wrote my 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:14.800 records in the presence of niggas is all the same everywhere. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.840 You know what I'm saying. If we got niggas like 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.520 this in my neighborhood, this niggas just like this down 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:24.560 in Atlanta, Mississippi to New York. So always based my 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.600 ship upon that because I never tried to base it 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.200 on we were the only gangsters or whatever, like James 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.200 would say, ship niggas is hard everywhere. You know what 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.600 I'm saying. Niggas just shoots you where every we don't. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.800 I'm saying, it don't matter wherever the funk you ask. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.920 You do a nigga thirty and he about his business. Nigga, 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:46.240 you're gonna catch that heat. So we we related and 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.680 sort of all struggles and the poverty and all that 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.360 type of ship. And I'm saying, all our parents came 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:57.400 from one place. You give me, yes, we got all 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.480 doing music though, that really connect and stuff. You know 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.920 what I'm saying, Like like jazz and like blues and 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.000 like soul music. You feel what I'm saying. So, oh, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:12.000 that ship connects us because we're pouring. We're pouring our 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.440 life and this ship you know I'm talking about me. Yeah, 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.320 you can dance to this ship every now and then, 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.640 but when you really started listening to this ship, they's 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.360 just pouring out their hearts and their souls about what 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.960 the fun going on in their neighborhood. And you know 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.440 what I'm saying, ship like that, So I look at 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.560 that the music too, man, That ship connects us all man, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.800 So they ain't that much of differently, you know what 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:41.600 I'm talking about that's right, got bad. It's funny to 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.360 me too. It's like like when morm Jay said Shure, 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.960 It's like I never like we never looked at Shugar 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.080 just being threatened. Like we just like where we're from, 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.280 big big dudes all the time, you know, big company then, 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.080 you know what I mean, Like did be you know 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.360 what I mean? He was like like you know what 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:05.720 I mean? So like that, I never when I got 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.359 around them, like sooner that that night after the source 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.840 of was That's the first night I met corrupted Dad. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.199 So it was like we've been cool every since, like 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.920 everybody that I ever met from the West Coast. It's 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.880 like we still together twenty years later, like I can God, 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.000 Dad's how still where yet? Recalled? Oh you know what 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:29.399 I mean? Like met back then? I mean I remember 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.479 Snoop you used to bring uh Timoko. Then we need 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.399 to the to the La Montrose in the path find 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.040 me you know the thing is man, and then lead 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.480 up to my point. Right y'all got y'all get guns 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.960 easiest round there. Everybody in their mama got a pistol aloud. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.320 That motherfucking man. How was there like if they had 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.880 an impact on the gun violence down in the city. Man, 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.280 white folks got the matter of fact, they don't damn 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.800 it about all of them, you know what I mean. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.800 So they've really down with them with that second is 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.480 that the second Amendment? That the second if you ever 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.240 bel on and and the white folk down here take 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.720 that ship like a commandman, you know what I mean. 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.760 It's almost like they're looking at you black damn why 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.879 you ain't strapped? I mean called, I see old white 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.400 folks down here going up in Crowber and the grocery 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.000 shore getting out the car strapped with the ship on them. 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.280 You know what I mean. The thing really is, it's 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.640 really black on black though, really, you know what I'm 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.720 talking about. At the end of the day, we got 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.440 really more in that then they got them white on black, 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.080 you know what I'm talking about. They just once they 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.199 got them put it on the news that the police 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.320 on the shide of a black person. Then that's what 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.960 niggas getting really emotional. But if you look at the statistics, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.840 they shoot more wife folk than that, you know what 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.600 I mean, We just get got more runnings with the podies. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.240 You know what i we got, We got more black 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.480 we got running is with the police because Atlanta is 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.200 a special kind of city. At the same time, this 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:09.160 is the only city that you're gonna have crypts, bloods, 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:14.120 g d s, vice lords, and and Mexican games. You're 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.520 not gonna head at in l A. You're not gonna 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:20.000 have cryps having beat with g ds. That's gonna be. 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.720 It's like that in the Atlanta because it's enough Chicago 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.960 people here is bringing their culture here, and it's enough 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.760 l A people here they and then you've got the 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.119 people from Atlanta that has gravitated to one side of 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.440 that culture, either to the Chicago drill or culture or 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.040 to the l A gang coaching. But it's all a 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.600 mission Atlanta. So that's why right there you're having a 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:43.920 lot of shoots, because you're having a lot of people 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.240 that's it's really banging on each other. That's not that 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.600 you're supposed to be banging on each other, but in 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.920 this city that that they're just as that they side 0:19:51.960 --> 0:20:00.399 by side. That's think about world start right, and you 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.200 got niggas brandish, the pistols are all in the world. 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.080 Start right. You know what I'm saying. White folks see 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:11.159 that ship too, so they're scared too. They're scared the 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:15.280 motherfucker too. So that's like all the all that got them. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:19.720 They on fifteen on pistols. Damn, you can't damn they'll 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.480 find unless you build that ship on your own, you 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.840 feel I'm saying. So it's like this is what these 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.040 niggas are listening to. And the don'to new type of 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:30.960 type of dog too, you know what i mean. We 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.119 you know, we came up, We came up out the 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:40.720 brown weed first, you know what I'm talking about. You 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:42.560 know what I mean. Then when we came out to 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.480 l A, we really was like, oh man, but that 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.879 ship then make us come back to a manner and 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.560 shoot motherfucker's you know what I'm talking about it. Then 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.560 it had an effect like that. So it's something. It's 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:58.480 something else going on, man to where unbolenced of months, 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.480 our home people. You know what I'm saying is it's 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:05.280 got them. It's is at an all time Well today 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.639 you don't have leadership today, you don't have that that 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:13.040 that big homeboy. Are that that one that one guy 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.399 you can look up to that's telling you that this 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.120 ship ain't cool. So I got a mix of motherfucker's 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:24.359 out there drinking like a lean and all that up ship, 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.560 which we didn't have that back in the days. And 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:34.960 then you got motherfucker's crank co game now all the 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.280 different type of ship that they can't even happen, but 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.600 they're using and they don't give up my body only. 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.159 So that's the big problem that that we have in 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.160 the inter city in the hood. You know, we're doing 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:53.080 ship that wasn't unheard wasn't heard of back then, So 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.440 you don't have that control, you know what I'm saying, 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.920 And nobody want to take the listening to grab whole 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:03.480 whatever mean. So it's just it is what it is 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.680 right now and it's gonna stay that way. Somebody just 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.560 slow these young cats down. Hold that thought, brother, we'll 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:16.720 be right back still. James eight, y'all need to better 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.840 give me my fine Donald I put that on the set. 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.080 I need to go give me some water. Mirror my 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:26.200 motherfucking feet fucking with me. Gangster chronicles of my ass 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:30.159 pay granted her money. It's gangster granny. Y'all know me? 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:34.440 Where are you ask? If you look at a lot 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.280 of our ship from back in the days, you know 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:42.600 we're banging this chip um. We represent it as far 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:46.639 as you know, our neighborhoods and the blocks we came from, whatever, 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:54.439 but get that music. Um, we really didn't have the avenue, 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.280 so to speak, because like I said, the record labels 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:01.400 were banners, video stations were bammers. If we promoted our 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:06.159 shipped to a certain extent of gang banking. Um, the 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:12.359 youth of today are living they affiliations through their music. 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:18.680 I mean, let's face it. Yeah, the ones that you 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.840 know we get the violence from the hip hop whatever. Um, 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.720 they live in their affiliations through that music. You know, 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.399 we got a lot of set claiming, we got a 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:32.160 lot of you know, funk your hood, this is my hood. 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:36.080 We dish we that you know, and niggas is crrry 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:40.080 and that's beef across states. You feel me like we 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.119 we had little beefs in our music, you know what 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.080 I'm saying or whatever. But for the most part, we 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.719 concentrated on our ships, on just trying to get our 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.800 ship out and our subjects or whatever. We didn't really 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.760 concentrate too much on that motherfucker across town or whatever. Whatever. 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.320 But now that you've got the access that the youth got, 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.040 you get me. You know what I'm saying. I could 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.600 start beefing with a nigger down in Atlanta with the head, 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.480 with the with the with the hit of a button, 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.800 you get and and and then I could jump. You 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.040 know what I'm saying. Niggas want to venture the towns 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.520 and ship and they thinking, you know, I'm harder than 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.359 this nigga. And like I said, you coming to my 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:19.720 town and beefing with me across five states and ship 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.840 and then you show up acting like you hard It's 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:23.879 gone ending a lot of gang violence, you know what 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.879 I'm saying, Because look at this when I if I 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:32.000 saw a good at my video, I seen cats having 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:37.680 a good time. Yeah right, you you watch one of 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.679 our videos, I might have to kill that monck if 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:44.200 I ran into him, exactly ship. It was. It was 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.480 a big difference though, you know what I'm saying that, 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.280 Like I had to carry my gun to this video. Shoot. 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.119 If you watch the video or you know some of 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.760 that are there, you know it was totally different. It 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:03.200 was di We didn't allow. We didn't allow it. We 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.280 was we was we were so head, you know, like 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.440 being in the nineties, it was it was hands on 0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:12.720 us the respective that you wasn't he just pushed it 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.720 in your face and kicks you up your gass. Man, 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.120 if they ain't respect you, you couldn't talk, no tough ship. 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.639 You couldn't do none of that ship. So it's like 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.280 being from that era and there being in this era. 0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.080 It's almost like, man, it's it's like day and night 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.879 because like E said, you can't start the people somebody, 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.640 most of these beaste folk getting into on the internet. 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:37.320 So you're like, what's the end doll to this game? 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.800 What's the end dog to this game? Well, it's just 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:45.080 like what what I learned? They said, give what's bigger 0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:52.480 than the super stuff and then superstar the game. The 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:57.280 game now just pushed these kids and to somebody knock 0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.919 their weed on. Now we control they whole and they 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.440 hold this. We're just waiting on somebody knock six nine 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.359 head off, and whoever been putting that money on his 0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:10.320 head they gol. So if you look at it right there, 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.560 it's kind of turned it into a very evil game, 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.320 right then, hip up, especially when it comes to dead 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:22.600 rappers being pimped by other rappers. Mhm, right, I don't 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.440 know if I heard some country that beef and oh goddamn, 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.480 we had heard country because I don't. I don't get that. 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:34.120 You know, like I said, we be the system today 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.280 is that motherfucker's beef for popularity? You know, I never 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.320 I never got that. You know how we did records 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.040 and music back in our days. We got popular and 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.520 we got known off for our pure music and what 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.000 we could spit about. And if you could spit megga, 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.520 then you you that you was there. That The game 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.040 right now is I need to prove that I can. 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.040 I'm I can talk more shipping you in my hood 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.359 is better than you. My block is better than you. 0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.399 Fuck your record and fuck you. We didn't do that. 0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.040 Nigga put out the record back in our days. If 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.480 they wasn't to eat his own nigga, that that's him. 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.399 You know what I'm saying, How you feel about storing 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.480 souls records? Nigg In the interview, I would be like, hey, 0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.359 you know, hey, it's all right. You know it is 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.320 what it is. You know, he doing loans and they 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.440 ain't saying about me. Nowadays, it's like, how do you 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.720 feel about this nigga record or that ship shot? That's 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:30.119 that ship stuck? That ain't better than so and so 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.440 block over here are sowing soul hood down, Nigga. We 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.800 the hardest motherfucker's around. Fuck you, nigga. If you got beef, 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:42.159 they can come on through out here. That's what nigause. 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:46.120 They civilized man in the rap game though, boring man. Yeah, 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.200 you know one question I wanted to ask you a 0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:54.520 real quick man Atlanta has and anybody see otherwise, the 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.760 Atlanta has a strong hole rep and hip hop right 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:04.240 now and link going over no time soon. Um, But 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:07.680 they got some dope lyricist. I don't know, some real 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.840 dope keys down there. I don't see something. It's real 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.840 creative down there. Man. Um do you guys do about it? 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.640 You know, intermingling with the younger artists in the city. Yeah, 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.320 he love log just did something with we. We we 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.840 definitely stay connected to the youth, you know what I mean, 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.840 whether it's uh, you know, just the reperencent of the 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:34.120 spect uh you know, or just you know, just uh acknowledging, 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.040 you know what I mean, Like you know what they 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.640 contributed in the work, in the quality. You know that 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.320 they continue with representing the city. You know what I'm saying. 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.080 So I guess I'm lot of love and acknowledgement. I 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.200 will say that like, I just got to doing the 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:46.960 record with Earth Gang, and they get a lot of 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.760 um there's a new Young Cats they signed to J 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.920 Cole and um they don't you know saying you know 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.600 that they get a lot of outcast comparisons. So they 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.320 come across the children of the Dutchet family, the obvious 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.080 in fluences. You can you can see this obvious. But 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.080 they're doing their own thing with you know what I'm 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:05.920 saying that, and you know we just slute that we 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.000 can support it. So it's anything we want to get 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.720 underneath them and be that support system, being their corner, 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:12.360 you know, if they want to come and you know, 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.920 sit and get some O G. Game, just get some 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.040 advice that so want and so forth. A lot of 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.440 the conversations are really intimate and personal and cashule in 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.680 that way because this is like what I like to 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.040 call a big little city, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:27.719 And then O O G. I want to I want 0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:29.920 to cap ourself with that should said earlier too. You 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.600 know attention, bro, You know, attention is a job. I mean, 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.640 it's highly addictive, you know what I'm saying. So you know, 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.880 these kids, man, what they dinner with you know, they 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:46.600 they they they they they dinner with paying too with 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.160 the mist that so when the job used, you know, 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.120 it's a it's a difference between chol used ins abuse. 0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:56.200 So damn it. Then were they they were all in 0:29:56.320 --> 0:30:02.600 pain I'm saying, right, we're staying pay tell me any else. Right, 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.160 So if they're dealing with things, you know, this is 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.880 the way they deal with it. But that the issue 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.040 with stagation, and they aren't not to deal with it 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.320 directly or maturity as adult because they got a Dolts. 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.400 They can't with a new story, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.840 So in that altar stake, they're not even themselves. They 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.640 don't they don't, they're not in constant communications with an 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.040 actual stuff. But it hasn't been realized yet. So the 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.640 motherfucker's that's community needs more than are those off the 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.880 egos and those personas you know, which can still classify 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.360 espirits or gens or evil, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.080 You know, the only candy ship around here larger I 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.440 thought with that because it's running, it's not supposed to 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.880 instigate or a debate. It's one they SUPs to be 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.920 a disclaimer that conserves it forsoors life. If you know 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.560 when they got it on them. You know what I'm saying, 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.920 You feel me. You don't want to think twice about that. 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.880 So I think everything should be Overcary. Really, it'll say 0:30:53.960 --> 0:31:00.920 more lives if you have me on the said James, 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:06.280 I've seen some ignorant ship that's doing now. They walk 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.000 up on you while your piscil and your host and 0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.760 take that motherfucker and run out the store with it. 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:27.280 I'm g gonna tell you how. You know how you 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.280 know not stupid ship run through your brain. You're not 0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.600 stupid ship run through your bath. You know what I'm 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.040 saying that you see somebody with the pistons, you're like, man, 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:44.280 I don't want to take that mother Like now what 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:50.400 motherfuckers are actually recorded? Motherfucker's doing that ship man taking 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.760 their ship. And when they do like this, the nigga 0:31:52.800 --> 0:32:00.240 like they're running out of stow. Man. We all I 0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.479 wanted to be man, we got the game go over, bro, 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.880 even when you guys wanted gewelry and ship like that, 0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.720 I'm staying like I want Georgy too, And I know 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.360 I know the emotion that is sent from like running 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.160 this is how funk up we are told each other. Man, 0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.120 this is how deep it goes where I say hatred, 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.720 hatred for our whole brother you know. I mean it's 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.640 the fact that we wanted joy a woman in another 0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.040 nigga face. You're trying to create a back them they 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:28.600 sho so you could kill another man. Mhmxactly what I'm 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.160 telling you. The whole back of that. I feel it's 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.000 a dad, you know what I'm saying. Like, so like 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.840 you know, if it's like you don't know you guys 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.160 need the horner than what they's skill to get busy 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.200 because a lot of stars didn't want to get the strike. 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.440 I haven't feeling I'm young enough at me, so I 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.200 know how I feel the polar furs, you know what 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:46.760 I'm saying, Like, and a lot of time you don't 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.040 want to got them be built the same way to survive. 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.440 It took them back to for me to you know, 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.320 like to be to beat counted, to be in the noble. 0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:55.880 You know, I'm saying, that's something you just get for 0:32:55.960 --> 0:33:00.440 those with it, So you know, who what else are 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:02.480 you going to be born? And that's war there. I 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:06.320 didn't say. You know, she has a blood that she 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.640 can't get try and steal the thought. You they can't 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.480 go to the cot and to come no tree like 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:19.600 you know what I'm saying, right, boy, thanks to my nature, 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:24.840 not my choice. God damn come on, man, great game 0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:33.680 with my choice, that's right now. Yeah, the jeesus PTSD man, 0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:35.880 because we have to stay war part the time. Now 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.080 we'll get some days out there being ge this, this, 0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.440 these avails and these fars. Now they got to go 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:43.320 when they hit them in the back of the hand 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.800 and now said that. You know there there just a 0:33:45.880 --> 0:34:03.800 beet I had, now I had under the room, and 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:24.040 I'm telling the platform you know what, right, Yeah, sorry, yeah, sorry, 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.960 a little a little contribution, just a little bit, just 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:32.920 a little bit. One of my favorites. Too many. You 0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.759 need to know that, man. Good love. Man. I I've 0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.279 been following y'all since to be given man. Like I said, 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.760 I've always been a nigger interested in different forms of music, 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.640 not just on some gangs to ship and y'all set 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.000 the platform for, you know, for other niggas to know 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.080 that it wasn't just about New York or West Coast, 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.360 you know what I'm saying. So it made me proud 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.719 to be able to have some cousins from down south. 0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:00.560 You know what I'm saying to represent man, and I'm banging. 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:04.000 I'm banging looking through my window every day all day. Man. 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.640 It's just it's one of those classics, man, that everybody 0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.640 from out here. Man, I don't give a funk who 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.680 you are. Man, y'all put out music that is a 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.600 staple for even us from the west. Coach, you feel 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:21.400 me right now, we realized that ship man. At the 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.479 end of the day, the individual to be your natural self. 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:29.200 You know that's right. You gotta be alone, and that 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:30.960 you don't saying you can't be got to be alone 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.640 at first until you inspire other individuals, you know, man, 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:39.000 right exactly? All right, Phelis, let's pay some bills real quick. 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:45.279 We'll be right back still. James eight, y'all neggas better 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.359 give me my fine dollars. I put that on the ship. 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.640 I need to go give me some water. Mirror my 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:55.399 motherfucking feet fucking with me, gangster chronicles. My ass tain't 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:59.560 granny her money, it's gangster granny. Y'all know me where 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.960 you off? You know? Want one thing I'm gonna go 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.799 back to earlier. What you said, Man, that's dope, dick 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.520 y'all working with the kids, because I think I was 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.319 a and R for a publishing company man for six years, 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.080 and I saw kids take the most funked up deals, 0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.799 even after I told him not to eat left. I said, hey, man, 0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.400 check this out. Go to your attorney man and tell 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.040 him to change this that. In the third, I'm gonna 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:24.799 tell you the thing that happened to me. I had 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.560 a kid I signed for Texas man, for one of 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:29.239 the few kids they let me sign. You know, the 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.200 mother Fellers putting get your pain with no eating that 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.560 motherfucking yeah. What wants you to take the work in 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.800 research all day? Right? You gotta go to an some 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.520 fifty year old white motherfucker you know wrope. No this 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.200 to the white folks. I did, But you gotta ad 0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.080 some picky year old white motherfucker. A well, let me 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.480 do the research on him and I'll get back to you. Right. 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.960 So I tell this kid man, I said, hey man, 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:53.400 we just got a plattin and black Dog. You know 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.440 which ice coren't plant job ship, right? You know who's 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.239 getting everything? I said at my nigga, you're about to 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.879 start making a look change, I said, Heller, you wanna 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:05.320 you want to you don't. You don't want to co 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:06.920 publish the deal no more because it was the time 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:08.399 that we're up right, you don't want to co pub 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.640 deal no more. And they had to put the type 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:15.200 ship and the nigga. Okay, big dog, I got you, 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:16.800 I got you, I got you. Want to do this 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.120 something do that? Man. He got a front of white folks, man, 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.279 and they put that money out their cash money. Man, 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.360 that motherfucker man Dog. Yeah, I went on here to 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.000 be signed. I think it's best for it. And that 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.239 motherfuck is sitting at home. I think you're going to 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.480 job right now. Some ship dogs. He's so frustrated, you know. So, 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.839 I think it's important man, that we get these cats 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.320 man the game man for the ones that we are listening. 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.839 I'm saying, it's a whole another loveler dope. These motherfucker's 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:49.319 is on percosets. I saw the at one time, Man, 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.359 I was in the studio with glasses Man. I saw 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.040 motherfuckers take three person sets, shoot the motherfuckers and chase 0:37:55.080 --> 0:38:01.200 it down with glean Listen, and you know what I say, 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.760 want about an hour lady when he broke up somebody. 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.440 He couldn't breathe. I said, man, he could take the 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:21.520 ass you to take you. I wanted to answer this 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:27.040 question though, man for the honey cool Joe Man using 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.560 the car answer in two thousand and one, and I 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.359 gotta give it up to you. Dog. You'd be out there, 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.279 you'd be out to get it in. Dog. How did that? 0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.480 How did that impact you? Like? Mentally? Man? You know 0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.200 you know the physical part? How that impact you? Like? 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:44.040 You know what I'm saying in the head man, everything 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:50.120 it impact? We really fucked up, man, because now you 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:51.799 know what I'm saying. Now I have looked on back 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.759 onto it. It was it was a selfish move for 0:38:55.920 --> 0:39:01.439 me because I'm leaving the up. You know what I'm saying, Lick, 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.719 you know I'm talking about, I gotta drive home, you 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:10.279 feel me? So I made a funked up decision to 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.399 do that, you know what I'm saying. So not only 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:17.400 when I did that, I put my friends, family and 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.120 the bo what I'm saying, I put my group in 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:23.279 a buying So it was it was bad. It was 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.520 a bad decision making on my part. You know what 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.880 I'm talking about to do that ship You know what 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.600 I mean. So even though I made that drive plenty times, 0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:33.800 you know what I'm saying from the club, you know 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:38.160 what I'm talking about, but doing just that time for 0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:39.919 it happened to me, you know what I'm talking about, 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:44.800 because hey, ship is that then what it is? You 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.920 know I'm talking about. So I had to learn a 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:49.719 lot from that ship, you know what I'm talking about. 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:51.480 And I got a little that ship for the rest 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:55.239 of my life. And I got sons too, So it 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.440 was supposed to happen to me because I didn't die 0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.200 at a time, you know what I'm saying. So it's 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.200 something for me to let my sons know and keep 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.839 teaching them about ship. Don't you gotta think first, man, 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.040 don't do no, don't make no stupid dumbass to see 0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.560 to do ship like that I'm talking about. So it 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.879 impacted me a lot, brother, because I had to sit 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:20.200 down and reevaluate myself, you know I'm talking about. I mean, 0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.200 I just shut down for a while. I just chucked 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:26.719 down for a minute, bro. But you know, most high 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.759 show worse, you know what I'm talking about. I'm a 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.200 I'm a dirt badass then, but most I show mercy 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.400 on me at that time, Bro, if it wasn't as 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:40.120 as terrible as it was out at a d U y, Bro, 0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:44.920 I the little things, Like I said, Man, here in 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:46.759 the reason I asked to touch you on me, I 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.600 had a homeboy that I'm real close with. Man. And 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.520 when I tell you, we're gonna played college football together, right, 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.520 and I'll tell you the ring of four three forty 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.879 man could jump the five team jump on the back 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.880 of a truck, you know, just jumping. That motherfucker. The 0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:06.279 most incredible applete I ever seen. Man, he lost his leg. 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.000 Somebody shot him when he lost his you know what 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.960 I think. And I remember, Man, I was talking to 0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.880 him one night. He hit me up and he was 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:16.399 talking about like just like Man, I got everything, took 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.400 it from me, and I had to tell him. I said, Man, 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.600 you've got God got another purpose for you. No, got 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.200 another purpose for you. Just seeing the stuff he go through. Man. 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:28.120 You know, I don't know you personally, man, but salute 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.120 because you were there doing your thing, moving and shaking 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:37.239 m You know the most of my family and and 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.279 the mob. You know what I'm talking about. That that 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.000 was my place, that was my God, that was my 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.239 that was my leading my leading point, you know what 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.719 I mean. But it's like you gotta you gotta keep 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.719 going because I remember being a little man in the 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.600 neighborhood and I remember seeing dolls in the neighborhood and 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:56.560 then he had one. He had one leg missing. When 0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:00.319 that motherfucker I seen him the next day, I see 0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.920 him the next day. I was like, damn, well, that 0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:05.840 ship got to be tough. Bro. I'm talking about you 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.360 got to got their fit for your silver three lads, 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.480 and you're a dog in the neighborhood. No, with's a 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.359 lotta got them Hollywood, roll back the visit place zone 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.920 got them one. You know what I'm saying. Damn So 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.319 now I think about that same ship like ship, if 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.440 I still got that, you know, saying, they got the drives, 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.000 they got the motivation to do it, I might well 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:29.840 do it because they're gonna be a time when Nigga 0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.520 can't do it. Think I gotta keep it real. Don't 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.879 be a time when they ain't going. So they gotta 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.000 go as hard as he can right now, you know 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:43.240 what I'm saying, regardless of the criticism, regardless of or whatever, 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.560 they just gotta go hard and deal with that ship. 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.479 You know, it's a nice like a guy. There's are 0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.680 promised type of attitude. You know what I'm saying with 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.560 me special with Survival Kid album. It's a lot of 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.040 people we got going on. You know, I'm saying something 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.160 I graces a just dying off like Prince market d 0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:06.960 you know what I'm saying. So it's like this, this 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:08.800 is what we do, you know what I mean. We 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.320 gotta keep putting music out and they haven't got it 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.400 to what night. It's about streaming now. So it's almost 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.439 like them, you gotta work double time and you gotta 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.400 put you and then you gotta gotta them. You know, 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.480 you gotta put bread over here for their playlist, the 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.600 bread over here, the market, this type of ship. So 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.080 it's like old white folks do it every day and 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:34.759 one faint of missing one I being foot gone diabetes. 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.600 They just did gotta keep it going for the kids. Bro. 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:42.480 That's what we do exactly. People. That's type people we are. Man, 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.799 we got them. In the face of adversity, we get 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.480 we get stronger. The type of people we are, that's 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:52.480 type people we come from. Yeah, exactly, it's differently, you know, 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.040 lie Man, to just keep pushing forward man through adversity. Man, 0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:01.560 you know there's something been moving to I've been going 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.680 to ask you and I still want. I said, we 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:07.160 interview these bigger man because that had a question. You 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:16.480 got some in your body, don't your dog? Yeah? Have 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.960 you ever been out the blade before? Man? Huh? Have 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:21.680 you ever been on the blade before? If you're a 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:30.759 tip before, yeah, he said, yeah, make his chick. Let 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.960 me just and I'm gonna tell you man. You know 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:39.000 my uncle's man, I'm originally from Ohio, right, I come 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.959 from a long line of pinch right. M My uncle 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:46.319 book used to tell me, man, it ain't it ain't 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:48.480 it ain't gotta it ain't an even something. You know 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.440 what I'm saying. So you can just tell certain things 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:56.839 the way they moved man, and everything. Man, Yeah, I mean, 0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:00.680 but that's I mean, that's a skin of that, you know, Man, 0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.200 Like for us nineties folks. You know, the world changed 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:08.200 for us changed, man, when the two thousand hit, that 0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:12.040 two thousands five, A lot of things, you know, the 0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:15.319 way the world was moving. Well, you know what I mean. 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.640 It's just you know, you know, once you've been in 0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:22.400 the game for teen years, you get tired, you get tired. 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.719 You get tired of the whole rigular role. You're trying 0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.320 to find other things to do. And man, you know 0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.840 in them dark places, man, you know them street skills 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.680 kicking man, when the when the industry ain't death, you 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.040 know what I mean? You know like uh, you know, 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.520 like and you know when you get dark man ship 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.000 before we try, we're gonna got them. We're gonna pull 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:45.200 it out of their lighte jan and uh. One thing 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.960 about it, man, you know women are gonna take care 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.520 of We got them the right one. You talked to 0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.160 it right. So hey, man, you know you either go 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.400 chew drugs and you're gonna chew the game. So you know, 0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:01.279 because you know, not here pimping with dupe man, you know, 0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.680 snacking young girls up with chain with man. But I 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.879 saw my uncle. Man, he's still with his bottom woman. 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:11.280 They got kids together, you know, I got kids and stuff, 0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:13.960 and they I think, I think, like doing their three 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.719 shillings off at one time. Man, My uncle like tim 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:20.840 d yeah, to put his hands on their bro He 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:25.399 just talked and they moved. Yeah, some people got that still, man, 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.239 I learned that young you know, like like that ship 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:39.279 hush still you like that huh yeah, man, that's what's wrong. 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.960 What's wrong with the James James don't don't don't. I 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:44.640 think it's something don't happen with his phone. He'd be 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.680 back on here in the minute. But you know one thing, man, 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.560 I want to tell y'all cats, Man, it's good to 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.200 have your back in the game, man, because I'm not 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.279 never gonna be one of them old niggas. Disting with 0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.680 the young cats is doing that stay ship you feel 0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:59.759 like this day time. Now they're doing what they do. 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:04.839 But we got hippop Gregs, but now we got nigga 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.080 just fifty years old that was raised on hip hop. 0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.200 I'm listening ena rap music, so I gotta have me 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.359 some ship listening to too. I keep having nigga Mike 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:17.000 hearing you know all that. You know, man, you know 0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:19.279 these kids out here, some of these niggas wrath like 0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:21.799 that nigga from soft Park Soft Park, what's the little 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:27.239 dude for South Park? And yeah, yeah yeah, some of 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.440 these Let nigga sound like Kenny from Soft Parking. Just 0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.799 put him the AM tune on it, And I said, man, 0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:38.000 this hes a love for another because my son is 0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.279 sitting around his motherfucking bumped that ship all day and 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.360 to try to tell me, Man, I almost had to 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:44.279 hit my son. One day he told me I was 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:46.839 listening to scar Face. He said, man was very harder 0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:51.000 than him. Who's that? I said, scar Face, I'll see it. Man, 0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:58.360 you bite your tone with nigga in front of you 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.640 know what I mean? And I ain't no this loosy person. 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.800 Y'all niggas out there, don't be clipping my video what 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.600 we're talking about still don't you're gonna go viral and 0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:07.680 the man because make on me all in your ship 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:15.680 with that one nigga value you man into my next thing? Man, 0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:18.600 how do y'all just come from the era that we 0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:20.319 come from? Man? Back to the day you know you're 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.319 going to promo? Do you do what album? Man? You now? 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:25.880 They said it right now. It's just like, man, this 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:27.680 ship is just like, Okay, we're gonna put the album 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.160 out for two weeks. He had two weeks, think we're 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:36.520 gonna put the album out tomorrow. And in a lot 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:40.000 of ways it's better, man, but I ain't a lot 0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:41.879 of dog. I was talking to Mac tim one day, 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.640 right and I was asking my said, nigga, get you 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.480 get off your ass and get back in the studio. 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.040 He told me, said, Still, I'm gonna be honest with you, 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.319 ain't the same no more. I used to like going 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.440 to interact with with the fans, going to go do 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.400 the in stores and all that other stuff. You know 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:58.360 what I'm saying. How it was before we get interact 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.279 with the teams. You're going from too, you go to 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.320 different city. Man, I'm just like, it's just not the 0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.600 same no more. Have you all ever felt like that, 0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:07.680 if you ever got at the point where y'all feel like, man, 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:12.040 this is way different now, I mean, you know what 0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:14.719 it is. I mean, it's what people don't understand that 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:18.719 we still we never stopped moving. So even after we did, 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:24.720 you know, we started doing our solo albums um Cooljo 0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:26.840 was still cool. You put out a book, could you 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:29.799 put out an album? Timo was still doing a lot 0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.640 of stuff. I went it, did five years with Nelly, 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:36.279 low with It, did five years with Danger Mouse, you 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:38.600 know what I mean. So we still was kind of 0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:40.759 like in the mix of what was hot and what 0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:43.960 wasn't hot, and we still was still kind of seeing 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.200 that the industry was changing because of the content, you know, 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.360 what I mean and what they were putting their money on, 0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:52.160 you know what I mean. So it was just a 0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:55.759 different spin. When I got with Nearly and we did 0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:58.920 a go out then eight, you know, so it was 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.160 still we were still over there. All of us are 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:04.520 still talking. So I felt like once we came back together, 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.799 and then once we low did the Boys, we did 0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:11.239 a TV show on TVs. Then we did were the 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:15.520 first rap group to have a Vegan show. Low Low 0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.920 Head the Vegan Show at Plane in Hollywood. So we 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.720 were still doing things. I just think that the industry 0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.000 has just turned. They they head to the younger generation 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.759 because they know they could go like like we just said, 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:31.120 they can go pip the young when they exactly when 0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.320 they see us. But we're still being able to be 0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:36.520 here and still be able to be relevant without their help. 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.200 They shine them. That's the reason why they started paying 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.959 these kids meals of dollars. So they wasn't this nus. 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.080 So if a kid a rived to see most of 0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:49.000 these kids and they've reached, man like this ship, this 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.719 ship rich right here. Man, these kids sit right here 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.520 six eight million dollars and then there's a whole bunch 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.400 of you know what, I mean, and that streaming money. 0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:00.319 If you got you to three lettle hot look hot 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:02.520 little songs on that stream and chick and some of 0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:05.200 these kids can see two hundred three hundred four hundred 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:08.279 thousand dollars a quarter. That's a stream of check. And 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.480 I tell people all the time, us coming from the nineties, 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.080 we don't even know what the stream and check look 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:21.239 like exactly. So it's like when the kids they love man, 0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:24.600 we get knees off the street, we get millions all 0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:28.680 god damn the deals, and we still think about the 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:33.799 You can look at love babes and example, he'd been 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:37.560 at the house the whole pandemic, right, he still made 0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:43.080 nineteen million dollars in the pandemic and ain't been nowhere. 0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:47.640 That's that's the difference. And that ship that US coming 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:49.800 from the nineties, we don't even know what that feels like. 0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:52.239 So just a baby talking to a kid. Then it's 0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.200 all over twenty five almost thirty million records on his 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:59.240 first two records, and he's sitting on that kind of cage. 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:04.080 They ain't got no what's the conversation. They've already beat 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:07.120 everything we could teach them. But what they can't what 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.919 they don't know is hey, man, it's gonna slow down. 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.640 And when it slowed down, that's where you're gonna need 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:18.080 I not because when them folks get off you and 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:21.120 you're not new chick no more, you're gonna see how 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.160 that person that you thought with your playing they ain't 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:28.439 your friends. When that building change out on that next 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.360 court and you don't know nobody in that building, and 0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:34.319 then and and don't nobody to connect with what you're doing, 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:38.080 you'll see then you understand that you're in the industry 0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:42.360 of business. Because as long as you got record, it's entertainment. 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.319 But when you ain't got no hit record, oh it's 0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:50.399 the industry real ship. You see, motherfucker's out there. Bar 0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:54.279 in the half you just gave him. You just gave 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.480 him a bar in half. The thing. Man, with these 0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:01.080 kids like you, seeing what goes up must come down. Man, 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:04.080 don't nothing last forever, man, And you can really go 0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.279 out there if you're not careful. Man, I look at 0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:09.480 these cats sometimes. Man, they're buying these Roman voices. Two 0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:11.719 they drive off the lot fifty thou dollars, you know 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.319 these news fifty thou dollars, right, and then if they 0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.040 go put some paint on them. They don't funk it 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:20.320 up now, even things. So it appreciates. You have to 0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:24.160 invest in the things that do appreciate, like real estate, marketing, 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:27.880 the land. So I'm not gonna lie, man, I'm proud 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:29.719 man to see some of these lut cats out there 0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:33.600 winning because they got their independence spirit which came from 0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:37.040 you know, the South, from the j Princess and different 0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.399 people to Masterpiece of the World. So these kids kind 0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:41.880 of came up, man, like what I'm gonna do my 0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:43.640 own ship because now, man, you know, we used to 0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:45.360 go to the studio. Man, it was you know, you 0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.680 had two inch reels and ship. Man, you had all 0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:49.399 this other ship. You had to go, you know, really 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.439 put some ship. You know, you have to spend some money. 0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.239 Go ahead, you know, to spend some money. Now these 0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:57.360 little niggas, man, they're going their cell phone and make it. 0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:58.920 I heard a litle nigda other day to play some 0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:00.600 I said, what do you do this? She saw my 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:06.400 race on my sylphone. I said, girl, you know, I mean, 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:08.239 let's see a game. I wished they had some ship 0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:10.440 the thing, you know, because you had to go out 0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:12.440 and then you had to come to the studio back 0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:15.480 and then with your there because you couldn't go in there, 0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:21.920 suk off the whole bunch of times man at all 0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:30.560 we go from the time, I'm gonna tell you r G, 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:34.600 I really I thought the game started changing was that 0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:38.200 ring Tall ship started. When that ship started, That's when 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:41.080 I was like, the game changed. When Soldier boy did 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.320 what he did, I was like, wow, I understand that 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:49.400 boy still rich exactly. So when you look at some 0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:52.000 of these when when the game went out of the street, 0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:55.840 out of the promotional department, out of the street teams 0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:59.719 that went to the this telephone digital ship, that's when 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:04.360 the ain't got treated. Because I'm looking at a lot 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:07.319 of people who popular them, and I'm like, damn, ain't 0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.880 never heard one cargo down the street play their music 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:16.000 exactly the same ship? Like wan who riding down the 0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:19.560 street playing that fastass ship? Or who rides down the 0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.520 street playing I mean, can you see yourself like how 0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:24.440 we used to do back in the days. Maybe you 0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:27.360 roll down your window, you will hear somebody bumping some 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.600 goody mob about the car. You will hear nigga a 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:33.000 lot of this ship. I'll be like, who playing that ship? 0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:38.600 Because I don't hear this ship nowhere digital all digital. 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.000 They tell they tell me that they said, gift, it 0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:45.200 ain't even about the radio. It's about the playlist. So 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.400 it ain't even about the radio no more. And and 0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.680 another thing that these kids got that I love is 0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:53.000 that they don't care about the awards. Them love trinkets 0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:55.399 that they used to just put up in your face 0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:57.759 and have you like, oh I gotta have at me. 0:55:57.840 --> 0:55:59.640 You don't care noting about that. Man, give me the money, 0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.719 man the money, gonna give me the money. Man, you 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:08.080 keep the trophes. When you look at a kid that 0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:11.160 probably that comes from cou when you look at future 0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.839 and look at what he had did, it's like, bro, 0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:17.960 they don't care really nothing about that. Look at what Drake. Indeed, 0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:21.879 when I look at how many men, I've never seen 0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:25.640 an artist stay hot for teen years, right, I ain't 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:31.000 seen not like him. I've never seen not with the 0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:35.040 different type of records. Here you're singing head here, you're 0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:38.600 on the ghetto records, you're breaking new artists. It it's 0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:41.560 just like this digital ship and gave a person who 0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:45.799 not gonna sleep and advantage over another person that that's 0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:50.640 still on nineties times so right now for us when 0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:54.359 when it was, when this pandemic hit, it gave us 0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:56.239 a chance to get in the studio and be like 0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:59.720 how he was on the first album, ain't nobody moving 0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:03.560 out side. We can't go nowhere. We sat right there 0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:09.640 and we created Survivor in four months, no ghost writers, 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:14.960 just organizing, nose us, no and ours put it out ourselves. 0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:19.440 And right now I feel like we're broken the ceiling 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:23.960 for anybody from the night because for us right now 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:27.000 to have a actual song out and it's on B 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:30.760 T MTV and B T J L. Hey bro, they 0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.880 said we couldn't do that. They said it was impossible. 0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:38.800 So with that being said, I'm so glad that me 0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:43.280 and my group and what the pandemic did. It won't 0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:49.840 vote from that. That's what it did, y'all up. And 0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:52.800 the thing I like about what y'all did, man, you 0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.560 went back and got the O G Chuck B. Howes, 0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:04.760 who's your good good hum Man? I had I had 0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:07.480 a number, I had a line on something man, right, 0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:14.280 But we had a track right. Stelo had lady to him. 0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:16.720 He had laid a verse on on the track first, 0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:21.040 and then he had like a hand like a little 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.800 chorus going like are you ready? And I was like, damn, 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:27.480 I need to shuck. Did just sound good? Man? So 0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:29.880 and I just reached out to him man and he uh, 0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:33.480 he got back with me. Man. I was like, ship up, man, 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.919 it shouldn't be be house man. If man, you could 0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:39.439 just get on the record, man, just man, just say 0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:42.400 whatever you want to say. Man, it don't matter. Man, 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:45.040 we just needs your boss. Man. He's like, no, cool Joe. 0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:47.840 It's like, man, you you're right what you want me 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:49.360 to say? Man, just you know what I'm saying this 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:53.240 this y'all ship. So I sent them some ship. He's 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:56.800 stamped back. I was like, damn, well that just sounds good. 0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:01.920 So I gave it the Ray Murray organized lords and 0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:04.200 he went in and shopped that ship up. So got 0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:07.160 damn hard man. It's style light shu. He was right 0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:11.680 there in the studio with us. Man, you feel So 0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:16.360 that was a man that was an O G call man. Man. 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:18.640 He came back with it. Man, They'm about to get 0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:20.840 rid of going to the grid. So then you right 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:24.240 on time. So man, I then shout out to the O. D. 0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:28.920 Tupman for the inspiration man exactly. He won't but definitely 0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:31.440 one of all are should be one of all of 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:36.080 our all time favorite you'll there you know you you 0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.600 gotta pay homuch to check you man, And this is 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:40.960 what I wanted to ask, see but right there right 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:46.160 because you was a rapper, you were oh y'all, man, y'all, y'all, 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:52.840 you know what I mean when that was like the 0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.200 sounds like like you know how you have certain songs, 0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:59.680 just like the soundtrack to your certain people life crazy 0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:02.200 came might I always think about my oldest son, he 1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.520 was just going to high school playing football and ship 1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:06.360 you know that was that was a big record, man. 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:11.360 But you jump completely man from that too. Damn they 1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:16.760 jumping offensive whole alternative ship man like saying I mean 1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:20.560 like that, that's that'ship, not there's a different on that 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:37.959 other side though. Well I yeah, now, but I didn't 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:40.520 receive it like that. I restate I received it as 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:45.960 um extinction um and a branch, you know what I'm saying, 1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:48.280 like from the same tree, you know, stemming from the 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:50.320 same group. So it's all been an extension of don 1:00:50.360 --> 1:00:52.880 your family and what it enabled me to do, you 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:55.800 know what I mean? And so um you know, just 1:00:55.920 --> 1:01:00.480 always you know trying to represent us the best uh 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:05.040 represent our best interest, no mean like our ability. You know, um, 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:09.800 I will reach our range and you know, stay connected 1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:11.480 to it, and that it means, let's stay attached to it. 1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:15.440 And I say this a lot. I feel like we 1:01:15.600 --> 1:01:18.160 was able to stretch without snapping, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:24.880 So permit a testament to the elasticity of the understanding 1:01:25.640 --> 1:01:30.840 you know, UM and equality. We had um as as 1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:34.440 a large collective. So you know, I had just always 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:37.080 felt like it was just that time, you know, it 1:01:37.120 --> 1:01:40.120 represented that time of you know, that time period of 1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:42.200 growth to development. That's just where I was. But I 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:46.280 had done I had done variations or smaller, smaller, smaller 1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:49.120 scales of it with just keeping the hooks and keep 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:51.760 the melodies around. No different than what Nate did for 1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:53.800 death Row, you know what I'm saying. Like that's what 1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:55.880 I was liking it too, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:55.960 --> 1:01:58.280 So it was just a bit more expensive. I just 1:01:58.520 --> 1:02:01.480 um elaborated a bit on what I could do vocally 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:04.320 and melodically, you know what I'm saying. And it worked. 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:07.480 But but the treatment was who different, no different because 1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:11.480 they didn't really know they didn't associate my history. That's 1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:14.120 why I was able to stay solid through it because 1:02:14.240 --> 1:02:17.640 I had the foundation. But for them, it's almost as 1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:19.200 if I fell out of the sky. I'm just another 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:22.600 big black niggle that could saying with what's all? You 1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:26.600 know what I'm saying. So they still celebrate that, uh 1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:28.920 in places that I that I did my baby um 1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:31.240 and places that I really translated and did well at, 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:33.600 which was England and abroad. You know, I mean, like 1:02:33.640 --> 1:02:36.920 they celebrate soul music and black culture more than we do, 1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:39.880 you know what I'm saying. So I was loved at 1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:45.400 and I was harald and revered and up and exhumsted 1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:49.280 as a genuine article the real thing, No mean lack 1:02:49.360 --> 1:02:52.400 of lack of um you know, like a loop of 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:55.280 Evangelus or whomever, you know what I mean, Like uh, 1:02:55.440 --> 1:02:58.840 you know, uh one of the yeah you know what 1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:02.400 I'm saying, so right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they gave 1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:05.600 me the world, gave me the greatest compliment, and you 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:07.600 know I bought it on back home, like I took 1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:10.360 it as a as an adventurer and excursion, you know, 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:13.480 a living experience, you know what I mean. Like we 1:03:13.680 --> 1:03:15.440 went on the roller poster ride and we came on 1:03:15.520 --> 1:03:17.360 back home. You know, I mean so like. It was 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:19.520 never about me going anywhere to stay, you know what 1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:22.200 I'm saying. It was about us going out uh as 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:23.720 far as we can go and as high as we 1:03:23.760 --> 1:03:27.240 can go, planting our flag there numbers an't like you know, um, 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:30.120 and claiming that's the victory, and coming on back home. 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:33.520 What I'm saying, right, I'm not a live big dog. 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:36.560 You know how everybody put rumors out there, but ain't 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:38.760 nobody talk to y'all. They just brought the goody mom 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:41.120 got beef, they broke up. I don't even ask y'all 1:03:41.120 --> 1:03:44.040 about that stuff. Man? How did it all come back together? Bro? 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:45.800 That's what That's what I want to know. How did 1:03:45.840 --> 1:03:47.680 it all come back together? The jug is called one 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:49.640 day to get call you and say, hey man, we're 1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:52.320 gonna get this cracking tvo call somebody. How did that 1:03:52.400 --> 1:03:55.600 go down? Well, big bro, I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm 1:03:55.640 --> 1:04:00.360 gonna contell you on to say we stayed in constant communication. Um. 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:03.640 A lot of people don't know the true historyal account, 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:07.880 but we our history dates back post dates before music. 1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:12.000 Me and Timo grew up. We went to elementary school together. 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:15.000 Wa we went to nursery school together, Temos, about three 1:04:15.080 --> 1:04:18.760 years older than me. So those three gentlemen there, gift 1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:28.960 and people sus on that right there. Many graduated with 1:04:29.280 --> 1:04:31.360 my older sister, you know what I'm saying that Let's 1:04:31.360 --> 1:04:33.280 say me and under three thousand we went to elementary 1:04:33.320 --> 1:04:35.800 school together. So we've known each other literally all of 1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:38.440 our lives, you know what I'm saying. So, um, it 1:04:38.600 --> 1:04:40.800 wasn't easy for us to stay be connected. And like 1:04:40.920 --> 1:04:42.760 you know, it's aboutther love, a lot of respect, a 1:04:42.760 --> 1:04:44.920 lot of admiration, and I mean like and you know, 1:04:45.000 --> 1:04:47.760 no matter what we accomplished individual and that we remained teachable, 1:04:48.120 --> 1:04:51.960 you know what I'm saying. And so there's humility humility there. 1:04:52.280 --> 1:04:53.960 And you know we got Elmers, we got o g 1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:55.920 s and man like I think that's a I think 1:04:55.960 --> 1:04:59.400 that's a structure that's lacking for the younger generation. But 1:04:59.520 --> 1:05:01.920 HA them up. You know, like I going to get 1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:03.680 in a possession and I know I have sold you 1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:05.320 up for the set. And that's what you know, I mean, like, 1:05:05.800 --> 1:05:10.640 that's that's what I do. I mean mhm. So you know, um, 1:05:11.120 --> 1:05:14.280 we had we had we had differences because we're men, 1:05:14.960 --> 1:05:17.760 and one thing can default another, you know, because you 1:05:17.840 --> 1:05:20.440 can't do two things at once, you know, uh what 1:05:20.880 --> 1:05:22.919 uh you know, you can't be two much at one time. 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:25.320 So if my ambition was taken me here and there 1:05:25.400 --> 1:05:29.680 was a collective opportunity that that got defaulted, Yeah, that's 1:05:29.720 --> 1:05:32.360 there's friction, I mean, and that's that's frustration in that. 1:05:32.800 --> 1:05:35.640 But that's circumstantial. That's not personal, and it's definitely not 1:05:35.800 --> 1:05:39.520 malicious or or intentional, you know, in any kind of way. 1:05:39.680 --> 1:05:41.560 You know what I'm saying. So we ain't never get 1:05:41.600 --> 1:05:43.600 eva when you got talk on the bullshit I'm saying, like, 1:05:43.720 --> 1:05:46.360 because everything I got out in the world, I definitely 1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:48.360 tried to share to the best of my ability. And 1:05:48.440 --> 1:05:51.520 the brother and the brothers can can't can't confirm that 1:05:51.640 --> 1:05:54.520 what I'm saying. So you know, we were men that 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:56.560 we artists. We got our own little egos, got our 1:05:56.600 --> 1:05:59.680 own little entilements, we got our own little you know, 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:03.880 um ideas of what I think should go. We just 1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:08.320 and it's difficult. It's even difficult to do because there 1:06:08.360 --> 1:06:10.160 are no more for man groups like this man we're 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:13.320 the lands going up left, I think true, exactly, you know, 1:06:13.320 --> 1:06:16.280 what I'm saying. So it takes time to take it, 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:19.160 take sacrifice and take and trust in the process. Man, 1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:21.480 But you know we're here, man, We're here. Man. You 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:23.680 know I'm gona talking to ship yall today here. Man. 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:28.680 It's it's just lovely that, like I'm saying, you know, 1:06:28.880 --> 1:06:31.760 coming from the era that I come from and y'all 1:06:31.840 --> 1:06:35.440 being a part of that, that we can show motherfucker's 1:06:35.520 --> 1:06:38.000 that we uh, you know that we can still stick 1:06:38.040 --> 1:06:41.000 together as grown men. And like you said, you know, 1:06:41.480 --> 1:06:43.600 you're a man, You're a man. You're gonna always have 1:06:43.720 --> 1:06:46.040 a stand ground and stand your ground and a point 1:06:46.120 --> 1:06:48.960 your own point of view. But you know, as brothers 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:51.760 you're able to mend fences and ship and for the 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:55.280 culture of you know, the the hip hop groups and 1:06:55.840 --> 1:06:58.600 and that longevity. You know, it's good to see y'all, 1:06:58.760 --> 1:07:04.120 you know, put out this rack. Just the fans not 1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:06.680 gonna fans, not gonna let you get away with it, 1:07:07.800 --> 1:07:10.160 you feel what I'm saying. So it's like, damn, man, 1:07:10.280 --> 1:07:13.440 every time walking out my career, the first thing I 1:07:13.520 --> 1:07:17.040 see somebody that that recognized me. But man, y'all stilled 1:07:17.080 --> 1:07:19.760 the music. Man, when you're gonna put another another album, 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:22.800 um My love, I might see a lot of my 1:07:22.920 --> 1:07:25.960 favorite man, give my love, give a lot of Timo. 1:07:26.520 --> 1:07:28.000 So you know what IM saying. You get that pressure 1:07:28.040 --> 1:07:31.320 from your face and you'd be like, damn ship, you 1:07:31.360 --> 1:07:33.280 know that, What the funk I do? You right? Man? 1:07:34.200 --> 1:07:35.600 You're right? So you know what I'm saying. I guess 1:07:35.920 --> 1:07:39.080 is we get that ship the same at the same time, 1:07:39.960 --> 1:07:42.240 and then it's like, man, just get's like riding the 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:44.800 bike again. Man, we know, I mean just for some reason, 1:07:45.280 --> 1:07:48.320 like you were saying, Justice League, you know we got 1:07:48.400 --> 1:07:51.400 theamn that the phone rings, we got Damn it's time 1:07:51.440 --> 1:07:54.800 for y'all. Got them boy acting up? You know what 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:57.560 I mean, Like like the bats didn't go more. We're like, 1:07:57.760 --> 1:08:00.320 thank the kind of got them too up. You know 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:04.240 what I'm saying. We got you, We do ship and 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:06.160 we will do ship. Man, it's twenty four hours in 1:08:06.240 --> 1:08:08.560 the day. They're trying to speak for eight hours, you 1:08:08.600 --> 1:08:10.520 know what I'm talking about. Then we got the rest 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:11.880 of them. I was to do, what the funk we 1:08:11.920 --> 1:08:14.800 gotta do? Then we look up. They gotta got them 1:08:14.960 --> 1:08:18.240 z Ma Sima got there. Hey, it's kind of got them. 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:20.040 Hit the lab man it's trying to got time to 1:08:20.120 --> 1:08:22.639 get down on their Plus this was our twenty fifth 1:08:22.680 --> 1:08:25.920 year anniversar was soul Fool, the first album that we 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:27.760 ever put out. You know, I'm time ah, I will 1:08:27.840 --> 1:08:31.360 organized doors and motherfucker was giving us out flowers. You 1:08:31.400 --> 1:08:33.840 know what I'm saying, Like, we're like, damn, man, let's 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:36.479 put another record together. Man, that ship would be that 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:39.200 it would be great for our fans. Man, and we 1:08:39.320 --> 1:08:41.880 got being back up with organized nors. Man, they got 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:44.400 in them and that ship was just Man, that ship 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:48.360 was glorious. Man, that she was magnificent. Bro. It felt 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:51.320 like old times man back in a dozen, back in 1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:54.840 ninety four ninety five. Man, So we couldn't recreate a 1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:57.720 soul ful we could damn there get close to it 1:08:57.840 --> 1:09:01.960 man with this survival kid man, because ye bro, that's 1:09:01.960 --> 1:09:04.439 how cool nall say, big big still Yeah. A lot 1:09:04.520 --> 1:09:06.320 of real niggas kept me real to this kid, and 1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:08.040 they could be like, man, yeah, man, we like the 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:13.040 stagger ship. Bro, Man, what's up with You're gonna always 1:09:13.160 --> 1:09:16.360 get that ship? Like I like that ship. That ship 1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:19.040 is cool. But when you're getting back on that good 1:09:19.200 --> 1:09:26.800 my ship, my nigger exactly, I can do a lot, 1:09:26.880 --> 1:09:28.680 and I've done a lot, but I cannot do what 1:09:29.080 --> 1:09:32.320 what I what what good at might do alone? So 1:09:32.560 --> 1:09:36.400 I'm not home. If we got together, that's right, all right. 1:09:36.680 --> 1:09:38.600 It's a real ship man. And in fact, man, like 1:09:38.720 --> 1:09:42.559 you said, y'all got history together. Y'all dudes his brothers. Man, Yeah, 1:09:44.560 --> 1:09:47.120 you got that history. It overcomes a lot of stuff, 1:09:47.200 --> 1:09:49.679 and you like about it. Bro. On this show, we're 1:09:49.680 --> 1:09:51.400 gonna do the shot jock ship. You know what I'm saying. 1:09:51.439 --> 1:09:54.519 It's a real conversation, you know, as men, right, the 1:09:54.640 --> 1:09:58.479 thing I love about as black men, y'all came back 1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:01.320 together man and handle bi business man. It would never know. 1:10:01.400 --> 1:10:03.240 I ain't never see y'all out there taking shots at 1:10:03.280 --> 1:10:05.080 each other. I had never hit none of the bullshit 1:10:05.160 --> 1:10:07.640 and the Shenanigans. It was just back to the I'm like, 1:10:07.680 --> 1:10:10.640 oh man, good mind, no ship it is. You know 1:10:10.680 --> 1:10:13.639 what I'm saying. It's cracking, man, And I loved it, man, 1:10:13.800 --> 1:10:17.800 and I definitely man. What I'm gonna do, I man, 1:10:18.120 --> 1:10:20.960 either we gotta come to Atlanta or y'all gotta come 1:10:20.960 --> 1:10:22.880 out here. Dog. We gotta do this in person. Dog, 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:39.240 I gotta meet many, my big bro all the time, man, 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:41.479 you know, and I don't want to start cheering up 1:10:41.600 --> 1:10:44.000 right now. Man. You know you're talking about the digital age. 1:10:44.680 --> 1:10:48.280 Uh huh. This ship don't save a lot of niggas lives, man. 1:10:48.600 --> 1:10:50.840 And it's like, you know you've got stuff like this, 1:10:51.040 --> 1:10:53.360 like James Man, when we first came up with the 1:10:53.479 --> 1:10:57.080 concept for the show Man and I saw I'm gonna 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:58.600 cry over with a lot of ship, dog. But I 1:10:58.760 --> 1:11:00.960 was moved to tears because just from their brothers and 1:11:01.040 --> 1:11:04.000 Sri Man, and like it's crazy because one day I'm 1:11:04.040 --> 1:11:06.040 on Instagram. You know how you don't check it again. 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:09.560 Box messages. I don't never check that ship. I go 1:11:09.680 --> 1:11:12.240 in there and Shaq don't send me like five messages. 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:16.320 No Mob James, O G Mob James, what's up? You 1:11:16.400 --> 1:11:18.920 know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, I tell you 1:11:19.240 --> 1:11:21.800 she said, Man, nobody will stop doing. You know, Shack 1:11:21.880 --> 1:11:25.200 sends me a video James with you baby. You know 1:11:25.200 --> 1:11:28.559 what I'm saying. So that that stuff, Man, it's like, Man, 1:11:29.600 --> 1:11:32.840 that lets me know right there, man did It's a 1:11:32.960 --> 1:11:36.120 neat d man for the man. It's a neat out 1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:39.120 there man for the goody mobs. Man. Because with these 1:11:39.240 --> 1:11:42.559 kids crave. They crave knowledge, Dog, don't matter how foolish 1:11:42.600 --> 1:11:45.240 they act. Sometimes, don't matter how they act, they're looking 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:47.519 for guys. Because you gotta remember, dog, a lot of 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:49.400 these cats ain't got fathers in the house. And it 1:11:49.560 --> 1:11:51.519 was different with us. Our daddy might not have been 1:11:51.560 --> 1:11:53.040 a house, but we had that uncle to the whoop 1:11:53.080 --> 1:11:58.439 your ass and punch you in your chair. Yeah, yeah, hey, 1:11:59.280 --> 1:12:02.240 you gotta let them know too. When when he told 1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:04.599 me we had y'all and we're gonna do y'all today, 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:07.479 I told him bull shit. The nigga sent me a 1:12:07.600 --> 1:12:11.120 text with some what the old girls saying, yeah, it's real, 1:12:11.240 --> 1:12:14.800 they want to do the show. I'm I'm like, I'm 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:19.000 like this, man. I never thought guys in y'all calibern 1:12:19.120 --> 1:12:24.000 be sitting there talking and wing with me. This as cat, 1:12:24.640 --> 1:12:27.600 you know, and it's a it's a privilege to be 1:12:28.240 --> 1:12:30.880 sitting here talking to your brothers and listen to to 1:12:31.040 --> 1:12:33.880 y'all story. And you know, he tells me a lot 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:37.400 of ship and I'll be like, man, she no, niggas 1:12:37.439 --> 1:12:39.760 ain't working with me. They ain't working with us, And 1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:42.760 here we are, Man, what I'm sitting there talking to 1:12:42.840 --> 1:12:47.120 your brothers. Man. Oh gee, man, listen, I watched every 1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:49.640 one of them laying interviews he did. Man, So what 1:12:50.120 --> 1:12:51.800 what what old? These things just said. That's how I 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:54.320 felt too. I felt that since there men, you're talking 1:12:54.320 --> 1:12:56.760 about broad talking about Bunchy. You know what I'm saying, 1:12:56.800 --> 1:12:59.400 Like you feel me? So, no, man, it ain't nothing 1:12:59.439 --> 1:13:04.519 but a lot of spend what I some ship. Yeah, 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:06.920 that those interviews, that serious of interviews actually did was 1:13:07.040 --> 1:13:09.920 so moving. By the time Gainst the chronicles come about. 1:13:10.120 --> 1:13:13.080 It makes sense to me because your imagery, your energy, 1:13:13.200 --> 1:13:20.479 it was. It was captivating, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Man, 1:13:20.560 --> 1:13:24.080 So we're not gonna hold y'all no more. Man, were 1:13:24.080 --> 1:13:26.880 gonna put this album man, and like because I'm starting 1:13:26.880 --> 1:13:28.519 to look against the chronicles. You know, we got a 1:13:28.560 --> 1:13:30.400 little fans now and stuff like that. Man, So I'm 1:13:30.439 --> 1:13:34.000 gonna start against chronicles playlist, man, and we just out 1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:35.320 there to the world. You know what I mean. We're 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:41.720 about to put this o for sure, y'all have to 1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:44.559 come out. I'm gonna tell you when I come to Lanta, 1:13:44.600 --> 1:13:46.519 though I don't want to because y'all some real niggas, 1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:51.680 you know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm 1:13:51.680 --> 1:13:57.120 saying here right y'all. Hey, I want to pay. We're 1:13:57.160 --> 1:13:59.439 sucking around again. You know, we we we we cooked 1:13:59.439 --> 1:14:01.400 every so so I just want to put it out 1:14:01.400 --> 1:14:04.280 there next time of the opportunity and impotation. Just just 1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:09.320 just just gound. I love to man. Maybe man every time, man, 1:14:09.520 --> 1:14:11.800 just man, whatever we could do, I would, I would 1:14:11.840 --> 1:14:14.800 be honored. So yeah, let's make it happen. Well. That 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:18.639 concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure 1:14:18.680 --> 1:14:21.040 to download the I Heart Appen subscribe to the Gainster 1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:24.400 Chronicles podcast for Apple users. Find that purple mica on 1:14:24.479 --> 1:14:26.920 the front screening your phone, subscribe to the show, leave 1:14:26.960 --> 1:14:29.960 for comment and a rating. Executive producers for The Gangster 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:34.320 Chronicles of Norm Steel James McDonald and Aaron M. C taylor. 1:14:34.640 --> 1:14:38.519 Our visual media directors Brian White, shows audio editors Taylor 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:41.160 Hayes The Gangster Chronicles. Here's the production of The Black 1:14:41.200 --> 1:14:44.439 Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Media. 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