1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: Second hour Playing Buck kicks off right now, and I'm 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: having a bit of a deja vu moment, whereas Yogi 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Berra said, played deja vu all over again, because Yogi 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Berra had some good stuff. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 3: I don't think there's anybody who says anywhere near as 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: interesting of things as Oja as Yogi Berra used to 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: stay back in the day, right. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was solid and Yogi Berra. Shakespeare's some 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: great great minds out there, Seneca. But you know, I 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: I remember when Sankta Coomy James Comme, I just call 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: him Sanctacomy on radio. Now I just realized there's somebody 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: else that gets called the sanctimony word out there, thanks 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: to President Trump. But sank To Comby James Comy, the 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: FBI director and the you know, partisan, inside uh inside 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: baseball bureaucratic infighter. 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: He stood before the America people in the twenty. 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: Sixteen election cycle, you recall, and he said, no prosecutor 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: would bring charges against Hillary Clinton for her classified documents, 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: but she was very careless, I think, was something like that, 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: something like that, That's what he said, and everyone sort 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: of took the moment. It's a whold on a second, 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: you're not the attorney general. 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: The Attorney general was Loretta Lynch, who had just had 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: a happenstance secret tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton, wife of 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: Believe it was in Arizona. 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 2: There's the Secret Service details stayed away where they talked 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: about their grandchildren right before James COMI came forward. 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 4: Instead this in front of the whole country. 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: We all remember that, right, that was over classified documents, 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: and that was over the person that the Democrats thought 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: was definitely going to be the next president of the 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: United States. In fact, you recall Hillary shared a photo 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: of herself on her birthday, Happy birthday to this next 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: to this future president or whatever, one. 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: Of the all time Racio destroyed tweets in yeah, mayor 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: that's that's what the kids call an L online for 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: a loss. 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's she took the L on that one. 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: But now we have this is why I'm saying it's 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: deja vu. 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: Biden is going to face this is the Wall Street 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Journal quote face a face harsh criticism in classified document probe. 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: So they're gonna put out this. This special Counsel, Robert Herr, 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: is putting out a report and it's. 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: Going to be a naughty, naughty Biden. 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Uh you know, don't you You shouldn't have left the 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: classified by the corvette with Colonel Mustard and the candlestick 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: in the garage or whatever. You know, you shouldn't have 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: just left it out. That's not how we do things 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: with classified. But no one's actually facing any trouble of 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: any kind. I mean, remember now, you know, it's not 56 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: like you get twenty years in federal prison for this 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: kind of thing. Well actually you could, depending on how 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: it went, but it's no one's even getting a suspension 59 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: of clear I mean, nothing's happened to anybody play involved 60 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: with this, certainly not Joe Biden in any capacity, And 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: it just sort of. 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: Feels like, what was the point of this exactly? 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: You know, remember when they appointed this special Council, I 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: think I said, I was like, well, nothing's going to happen, 65 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: and here we are. 66 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 4: Nothing is happening. 67 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, President Trump is facing a federal criminal case in 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: Florida over his clan that he's the president, he declassified, 69 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: he kept documents that he's allowed to keep because he's 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: president and they're. 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: Still going forward with those charges. So what's going on? 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: So I think, and I bet you agree with me, 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: and we've said this for a while, and I think 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: it's important. The biggest legal peril Trump faces is South 75 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: Florida classified document case. I think that the case in 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: New York City is total crap. The case in Atlanta 77 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: is mostly all BS and Jan six related charges from 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: Jack Smith are mostly trumped up garbage. But the case 79 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: on the classified documents front is more I would say, 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: open and shut in terms of what is and what 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: is not and what was and what was not cap 82 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Now there are defenses that can be made based on 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: presidential powers all those things. I'm not saying that those 84 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: aren't valid defenses. And I also think the jury is 85 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: far more likely in South Florida to be favorable to 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: Trump than certainly DC, Atlanta or New York City. And 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: I think he's got an Eileen Cannon, if I remember correctly, 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: a judge who was seeking to actually apply the law 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: fairly and impartially as opposed to a left wing activist 90 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: in judicial robes, which I think it's fair to say 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: that we have in the other three cases Now, I thought, 92 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: as soon as Biden had his classified documents case of 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: his own, and when all these facts came out, it 94 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: would be politically untenable to go after Trump for something 95 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 3: that Joe Biden did. They are not, it appears, going 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: to even worry about that. From a controversy perspective, they 97 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: don't care. I do think that the case in South 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 3: Florida is not going to be resolved before the twenty 99 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: twenty four election. And I think if Trump wins, he's 100 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: going to be able to pardon himself. And no one 101 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: is really talking about this. If Biden won, I think 102 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: he might pardon Trump. And some of you are going 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 3: to say that's crazy. But once he's already beaten Trump twice, 104 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: then he can look like he's the magnanimous elder statesman. 105 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: And what does he really care if Trump is harmed 106 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 3: politically by these investigations. I don't think from I'm curious. 107 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: I think from a political perspective, Biden believes that Trump 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: would be harmed by these charges, and therefore he wanted 109 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: them to occur in twenty twenty four, during an election year. 110 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: But if Biden one and were able to stay in 111 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: office until twenty twenty eight. Let's leave aside the health 112 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: and everything else. Do you think he really cares that 113 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: much about Trump going to prison? I know the Democrat 114 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: base does. But Biden himself, if he were to win 115 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: the presidency again and be able to stay in office, 116 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: I don't get the sense that he is going to 117 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: be fire in Brimstone. Oh Trump walking about the key. 118 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: I man, I can't even really go like, I don't 119 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: know if I can't go there intellectually or emotionally. But 120 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: I think that if Biden won four more years, is 121 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: a chance and Trump was still facing these federal charges, Yeah, 122 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: there's a chance that he would let the trials play out. 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: And I don't think he would pardon him. I think 124 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: he would commute any sentence, any punishment. 125 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: So you kind of. 126 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: Agree what he would do. He's more focused. He would say, 127 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: for the good of the country and for his legacy. 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: And you know Trump's face the judgment, Yeah, the judgment 129 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: of the people has been cast down. Trump is a 130 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: convicted felon. I'm not erasing that, but you know, he's 131 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: not like under house arrest or anything. I mean, if 132 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: it came to that, which I don't think it will 133 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: come to that, But I'm just saying I think Biden 134 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: would probably commute any I think he'd let the conviction stand. 135 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: Well. So what's interesting about all of that is these Alley. 136 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: First of all, I think we're probably going to get 137 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: a written report from Robert Hurr, who is the independent 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: special counsel investigating the classified documents from Biden, that will 139 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: say that Biden, like you said, behaved rashly, he behaved inappropriately, 140 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: but he did it rise to the level of criminality 141 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: because there was no intent. That's what I suspect ultimately 142 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: this independent council is going to do, and then he'll 143 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: try to clean it up and put a bow on it. 144 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: And then the Democrat political allies will use that written 145 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: report and the evidence that came out, and they will 146 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: try to make Trump's behavior look very different and egregious 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: in comparison to what Biden did. 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: Well. The big challenge for that's what they're going to 149 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: try to do. The big challenge that they face is 150 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: the difference between presidential authority as it pertains to classified 151 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: and even the vice president, which is where Biden was 152 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: when some of these documents. I think maybe even was 153 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: a senator during some of the documents it depends, that'll 154 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: be a major difference. And also I can just say 155 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: for people who have ever worked in the national security 156 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: side and held the clearance as I have, it's just 157 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: remarkable to see how politicians get away with all this stuff. 158 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: And if you're just somebody who is trying to serve 159 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: your country working for the bureaucracy, working at the CIA 160 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 2: or the NSA or I don't know wherever FBI, where 161 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: you need a clearance, and you make even the most 162 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: minor mistake, it's like your career is over and they're 163 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: going to tell you you're a bad person. 164 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: This is something that you would have nightmares about when 165 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: you were at the CIA, Like accidentally, Yes, if if 166 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: I had, if I thought, if I when I was 167 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: a CI officer, if you told me that they were 168 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: going to find multiple top secret documents like strewn about 169 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: my home and investigators wouldn't find those, I would have 170 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: a straight up panic attack and would be like, I 171 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: need a really good attorney, right like. 172 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: That would be my I don't know, I'd be freaking 173 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: out because it's not even rightfully so yeah, I wouldn't. 174 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be getting the kid glove treatment here I'd 175 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: be treated like some kind of national security threat, as 176 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: any other low level government employee would. 177 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: Because most people, if you screw up at work, most people, 178 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: you don't face criminal charges. 179 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: You you have to actively you have to actively do 180 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,119 Speaker 2: something illegal to usually face criminal charges in your job. 181 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: As opposed to just minor negligence, which I would look 182 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: at much of this as representing right, like negligence with 183 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: negligence with classified is still treated. I mean, if you're 184 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: intentionally violeting classified, they're gonna send you to prison for sure. 185 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: But even if you're negligent with classified, you can get 186 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: suspension of clearance, you can get fired, you could. And 187 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: there is reck This was the big thing with Hillary. 188 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: There is a recklessness component to the statue. So Congress said, look, 189 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: it's okay even if you don't mean to. 190 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: If you're carrying a briefcase home every day and you 191 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: happen to have like five classified documents in it because 192 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: you didn't check before he went home, and we find 193 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: all that stuff in your home, like, we may still 194 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: send you to prison. Yeah, that's that's what's actually in 195 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: the statue. That's why when Comy came, I'm sorry, Yeah, 196 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Comy came forward and said nobody would charge Hillary. People 197 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: were like, she had one hundred classified emails on a 198 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: private server that she set up and had to know 199 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: that this was going on. He said, no reasonable prosecutor 200 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: would bring charges on this, right, And then there were 201 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: federal prosecutors all across the country or former federal prosecutors 202 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: who could speak out about this, saying I would have 203 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: brought charges. Yeah, And again she would have taken she 204 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: would take a plea deal probably, and I'm not even 205 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: sure there'd be any you know, prison time attached to it. 206 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: And people get mad, we want to say that, but 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: that's the way it probably would have gone. But to 208 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: get nothing, I mean no, no, not even like a 209 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: deferred prosecution agreement or anything. It's like, no big deal, 210 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: one hundred instances of classified I mean, it was a fix. 211 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: The fix was in. 212 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: And I still think even though the in theory, the 213 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: peril that Trump would face most significantly from a legal 214 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: perspective is South Florida, I still think the jury, the judge, 215 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: and the timing of that case is not going to 216 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: impact in a substantial way the presidential election. And I 217 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: also think in that one, in particular, Buck the partisans 218 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: are going to line up. However, the partisans line up. 219 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: I think the fact that Biden had classified docs too, 220 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: most people aren't going to go into the nitty gritty 221 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: and try to define which classified documents one guy had. 222 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: It's just kind of a pox on both their houses. 223 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: I think in the general sense, I don't think this 224 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: one has the staying power as a result of what 225 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: Biden did. 226 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: I also don't think there's any world in which the 227 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: judge in Florida. I agree with you, I don't think 228 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: that case is even going to happen before the election. 229 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: I don't think the. 230 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: Judge in Florida would even you know, I don't know 231 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: the punishment. You know, she's not gonna lock Trump up. Okay, 232 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: that's not over the over the document stuff over over 233 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: effectively a paperwork dispute. That's not happening the judge in DC. 234 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: I think home confinement actually becomes a possibility, right. 235 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: I mean these are the this. 236 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: Is I mean the legal system we have, when you 237 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: really break it down, just comes down to decisions people make. 238 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: You know, we like to think of it as this 239 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: you know, the justice system, but there are people making decisions. 240 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: They can decide to prosecute or not. They can decide 241 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: to lock you up or not. You know, it's a 242 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: lot of it's luck. 243 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 4: Of the draw. 244 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: I was buck out at Miami with a group of 245 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: donors to different Republican candidates, and one of those donors 246 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: said to me, and he's a super smart guy. He 247 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: looked around and he was like, with the way the 248 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: Department of Justice is going, I think they could come 249 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: after almost any Republican donor in the country. And this 250 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: I to try to charge him with a crime. It's like, 251 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: it's crazy. 252 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: And that's the. 253 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: World we've created where if you have the wrong political opinions, 254 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: you become a target the likes of which we've never 255 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 3: seen in the history of this country, certainly not in 256 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: any living memory of anyone out there. 257 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight hundred two two two eight a two. If 258 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: you think Joe is going to get replaced by Michelle 259 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: Obamba in the convention at the convention, curious to hear. 260 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: If you're you're along with, play on that one. 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We roll through the 284 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: Friday edition of the program, so many different people out there, 285 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: moving in so many different directions, and with the holiday 286 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: season up on us in the near future here and 287 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: I wanted to mention Buck yesterday thanks for taking off 288 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: and run in with the show when I was doing 289 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: the Patriot Awards here in Nashville. Best moment of the 290 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: Awards show. I had not ever met these guys before. 291 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: The Nashville police officers who stormed into that school and 292 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: killed the trans shooter and saved many lives in the 293 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: process were honored on the stage, justifiably so for their 294 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: bravery on that day. But I just want to keep 295 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: hammering this occasionally on this program because the fact that 296 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: we still have not seen the transhooter manifesto, and that 297 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: all of the anger seems to be coming down on 298 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: the fact that some of those pages of the trans 299 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: shooter manifesto were leaked. How in the world can we 300 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: have a legitimate conversation about how to protect schools. 301 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: When they won't tell us the full. 302 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: Motivation of the transshooter. I've been told by people that 303 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: I trust Buck that the reason she went to that 304 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: school was because she had surveilled multiple places and found 305 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: there to be less security there. That's what I've been 306 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: told by people I would trust. If that's true, wouldn't 307 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: that be incredibly important to know that armed security at 308 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: schools directly dissuade even mentally ill people who are trying 309 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: to do harm to children from taking action to try 310 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: to do that, Because that's what I've been told. And 311 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: until we have the full fruition of understanding why she 312 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: acted and why she attacked there, how in the world 313 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: can we make roundational decisions going forward. And look, I 314 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 3: give tremendous praise to those police officers who put their 315 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 3: lives on the line and took out this crazy transhooter. 316 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 3: But until we know her full motivation and why she 317 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: chose that location in particular to attack, I don't think 318 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: we can make a rational response. And that's important for 319 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: public policy reasons and also for everyone else out there 320 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: who worries about what might happen to their kids while 321 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 3: they're at school, and the fact that's still not public 322 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: I think is frankly indefensible. Whether you're a Democrat, Republican 323 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: or an independent, this should all be out there and 324 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: we should all be discussing. 325 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: It purely, purely political, purely political. Yeah, it's true, it's 326 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: really it's really upsetting. 327 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: Someday soon, it's likely the Biden administration could introduce the 328 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: idea of a digital dollar replacing our currency system as 329 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: we know it. We're into former Wall Street insider Tikachuwari. 330 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: The government could announce a mandatory national recall on the 331 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: US dollar, and it could happen sometime this year. Tika 332 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: has exposed this government plan in an online video, and 333 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: he is showing you three steps that he believes you 334 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: need to take to prepare for this possibility that would 335 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: make a huge difference in the economy and to your 336 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: bank account. 337 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 4: You need to see for yourself. 338 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: Listen to what Tika has to say, make your own decisions, 339 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: and do your own homework on this pet Go check 340 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: it out. Go to dollar recall dot com. You can 341 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: watch this video about the possibility of a central bank 342 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: digital currency that the government doesn't want you to see, 343 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: because trust me, they're planing all kinds of stuff. Go 344 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: to dollar recall dot com. That's dollar recall dot Com 345 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: paid for by Palm Beach Research Group. 346 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Clet Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 347 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: Welcome back everybody. 348 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: As you know, they have clean things up a bit 349 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, which makes everyone ask the obvious question, 350 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: why didn't they just do this before? If cleaning things 351 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: up and making things nice and safe and getting rid 352 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: of the encampments and everything was something that could be 353 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: done quickly, why. 354 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 4: Not just let that happen or do that right away? 355 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: But they did it for Biden's meeting with Shi Jinping 356 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: the premiere. It's a nice way of saying the communist 357 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 2: dictator of China. But the continued deterioration in cities and 358 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: clay yesterday, you know that guy got found guilty who 359 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: attacked Pelosi's husband with the hammer, Yes, which was quite 360 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: a lapse in security at the Speaker's house, right, I mean, 361 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: there's like supposed to be a Capitol Hill police protection 362 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: and this guy just got into the house. And anyway, 363 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: but it goes to there are people that are a 364 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: danger to the public who are roaming the streets in cities, 365 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: and larger numbers than what we had seen pre COVID era. 366 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: I should I shouldn't say pre COVID ever, I'm sorry 367 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: about that PREVLM era because that's actually what the It 368 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: had nothing to do with COVID. Really, the change in 369 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 2: crime in the cities that had everything to do with BLM, 370 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: which just happened to be in the same era or 371 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: same year as COVID in twenty twenty. But you're seeing 372 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: this in a lot of cities. You're seeing the problems 373 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: play out. And this was interesting because one thing that 374 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: I think people need to be disabused of is the 375 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: notion play that it's a function of resources. If only 376 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: we had more resources in these cities. Now, resources matter. 377 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretun they don't. Of course, you 378 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: need policing. That's why defund police was so bad. 379 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 4: But there's also a political will component to all of this. 380 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: You see that in San Francisco, right they've decided we're 381 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: going to clean up the streets and get rid of 382 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: the encampments, and they do it. So there must be resources, 383 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: they just don't usually want to do it or don't 384 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: want to use them in that way. In Memphis, Tennessee, 385 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: Memphis has a very high violent crime rate. 386 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 4: Unfortunately as a city. 387 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: The police chief here said, well, i'll let you hear 388 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: what he had to say and why this is getting 389 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: some attention. 390 00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 4: Play eighteen. 391 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 5: We had the entire United States Army here in the 392 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 5: city of Memphis. If we continue to see the same 393 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 5: individuals coming in crimes, you know, arresting a way out 394 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 5: of this is not possible. 395 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Clai, this is the key. This is true in Memphis. 396 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: It's true in every city that's having a crime problem. 397 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: You speak to anyone in law enforcement, and the biggest 398 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: public safety issue that could be solved right away is 399 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: repeat offenders. Okay, that's or are that they are the 400 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: biggest threat. Repeat offenders meaning people who have been arrested. 401 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: I'm not talking once or twice. That's the stuff that 402 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: we were all pollds that we could get into the 403 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: defund police era and BLM and all this stuff. Oh 404 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: somebody stole like a pair of socks and the three 405 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 2: strike law sent them away for twenty years, or they 406 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: had one you know, marijuana joint on them and they 407 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: you know, now their life is ruined. So we were 408 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: told to go, Okay, look, we want to be people 409 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: should get second chances, and people shouldn't be overly punished 410 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: for minor things where there's no We're talking about people 411 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: that have been arrested. 412 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 4: For violent crimes dozens of times. 413 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: We're talking about people that are clearly a menace to 414 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: public safety. And there's just been this decision that has 415 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: been embraced by the Democrat Party and Soros backed prosecutors 416 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: that we all have to just deal with this and 417 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: live with this. And I think people are starting to 418 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: slowly wake up, even in some of the Democrat cities. 419 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was an awful story out of Memphis that 420 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: did not get a lot of national attention. A doctor 421 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: who had recently moved to sat to Memphis to work 422 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: at the Saint Jude Hospital, and a lot of you 423 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: out there are familiar with the incredible work that Saint 424 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: Jude does for patients all over the country who are 425 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: not able kids to get the cancer treatment or the 426 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: healthcare that they would otherwise be able and need to 427 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: be able to survive. They raised tens of millions of dollars. 428 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm fortunate to have been a part of some of 429 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: the events that Sat Jude is involved in. A couple 430 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: of years ago, I was down for their big event 431 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: in Memphis, trying to help out a small amount that 432 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: I could, and this doctor just I think moved to 433 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 3: Memphis six months ago. He was out with his baby, 434 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: newly born baby, and his wife for a walk in 435 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: a park and he was murdered. And this is emblematic. 436 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: We talked about the Gillian Ludwig I believe was her name, 437 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: the Belmont University freshman in Nashville, who was just in 438 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: a park and she was shot by a serial felon 439 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: who should have never been on the streets, a random 440 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 3: act of violence. He wasn't even aiming at her, he 441 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: was just firing his gun and she ended up being 442 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: struck by a bullet. And these stories wherever you are 443 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 3: listening to us right now, there is a story that 444 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: occurred in your hometown of someone who was one hundred 445 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: percent innocent, never did anything wrong at all, and they 446 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: were the victim of a violent crime, and almost with 447 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: one hundred percent certainty, the person who killed them should 448 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: have never been on the streets. Buck we talked about 449 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: was that last summer. I think Eliza Fletcher, the mother 450 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: who went for an early morning job and was murdered 451 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: on that early morning job. You have innocent people out 452 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: there being killed, and it's because instead of being behind bars, 453 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 3: all of these violent criminals who should have never been 454 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: on the streets in the name of retributive social justice 455 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: and the idea that it's racist because too many criminals 456 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: are black. They're putting them right back out on the streets. 457 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: And overwhelmingly the people who bear the cost for that 458 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: are black, right, I mean, and there's huge percentages now 459 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 3: of people out there, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. I did 460 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 3: a deep dive on this. Everybody wants more cops and 461 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: less crime in their communities. But what this chief of 462 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: police in Memphis is saying, buck is even if you 463 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 3: had the whole army out there, if you arrest people 464 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: and immediately put him back on the streets, doesn't matter. 465 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: It's not a numbers game that could be helped. 466 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 4: Right. 467 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: Well, this is I heard this when I was working 468 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: at the NYPD Intelligence Division. I would talk to some 469 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: of the cops who had been, you know, turning out 470 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: of various precincts for decades in some cases, and they 471 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: would talk about the battle days in New York in 472 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: the early nineties. 473 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 4: That's actually when New York was that it's worst. 474 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: People think of New York in the seventies and it 475 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: was kind of this dystopian urban healthscape of decay. But 476 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: actually nineteen ninety ninety one was really the worst that 477 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: ever was. And they would say that they would arrest people, 478 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: and they would it would be the you know, one 479 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: hundredth arrest, and like, what do we do. We're supposed 480 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: to get this guy a cake. I me, he's supposed 481 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: to celebrate that he hit you know, one hundred. This 482 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: is insane, And think about how demoralizing that is, because 483 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 2: what it means is that the cops have got somebody. 484 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: They've arrested him. He's been arrested so many times. He's 485 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: clearly not changing his way, clearly does not care about law, 486 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: you know, it does not fear the consequences of law enforcement. 487 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: The prosecutors who are supposed to be processing this individual 488 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: and and you know, defending public safety are just like 489 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: a you know, like a turnstile in the subway which. 490 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: Nobody was paying for back in the day. 491 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: And it's just the whole thing starts to collapse, and 492 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: ever starts to say, what am I really doing? When 493 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: you add to that that cops can be prosecuted and 494 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: and even you know, lose their freedom for doing their 495 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: jobs in good faith because there's a video that's taken 496 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: that shows them. You know, sometimes cops are going to 497 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: wrestle somebody to the concrete and like, that doesn't look 498 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: that doesn't look pretty. 499 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: That's that's rough stuff. But that is part of law. 500 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: Enforcement, especially when Buckett can be a thirty second video 501 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: that's part of a four minute, five minute interaction, and 502 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: they take the thirty seconds and try to make look 503 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: make it look like it is not in the larger 504 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: context in which it was occurring. And look, remember, was 505 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 3: it awful story? The guy who was murdered by Memphis 506 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: police officers story vanished by the way, the guy who 507 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 3: if you were comparing the story of what was that 508 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 3: guy's name in Memphis, who who was clearly a victim 509 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: of police violence, beaten up by four or five different 510 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: black police officers in Memphis, you compare him to George Floyd, 511 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 3: and you were looking for someone who is actually the 512 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: victim of police violence, and you wanted somebody to be 513 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: the face of it, it would have actually been him. The 514 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: problem was it was black police officers doing it to him. 515 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 3: So the story almost completely vanished. I think the trials 516 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 3: are coming up, but nobody's really covering it. 517 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and meanwhile that not not only is Derek Schauvin's 518 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: trying to fight his his conviction on federal civil rights charges. 519 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: And you know, there's I had never seen this wory. 520 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: You know, there's a training his defense unless I'm unless 521 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: I'm misreading this. I saw this online. Found a training 522 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: slide of officers putting a knee on the sort of 523 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: the shoulder neck area in that way to hold somebody down, 524 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: and that basically the department, Minneapolis department, at least, this 525 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: is part of the defense claim. Now that Minneapolis Department's like, oh, no, 526 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: we didn't teach that. 527 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 4: Actually they did. Yeah, actually they were teaching. 528 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: This as a restraint, and they just decided that that 529 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: wasn't that it was you know, misapplied in this case 530 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: or whatever the whatever it may be. And that George 531 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: Floyd died of heart failure, not of based on the 532 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: coroner's report, heart failure, not asphyxiation, yes, and had no 533 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: damage to his neck that would have been consistent with asphyxiation, 534 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 2: and had a lethal amount offense FIEL in his system, 535 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: you know, And you talk about this and people started 536 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: to get very oh, they started to get very tense 537 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: and very uh oh I don't know. If you just 538 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: go online, you can read this yourself. And and Derek 539 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Chauvin's get got twenty years in prison, his life, his life. 540 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: I mean, Derek Chauvin was convicted because the jury was 541 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: afraid of what would. 542 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 4: Happen if they didn't convict Derek Chauvin. 543 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think there's any doubt at all 544 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: about that, because implicit in the trial itself was the 545 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: threat of what violence would ensue if Derek Chauvin were 546 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: not held responsible. By the way, the Memphis individual who, 547 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: based on all the evidence, appears to have been totally innocent, 548 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: Tyree Nichols is his name, and the black police officers 549 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: have been charged and we'll see what happens in those trials. 550 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 3: I believe one of them has already pled guilty and 551 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: the video is horrific. But because he was a victim 552 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: of black police violence, story vanished. If that had been 553 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: five white Memphis cops beating the crap out of Tyree Nichols, 554 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: would there would be statues of Tyree Nichols everywhere instead 555 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: of George Floyd. There would have been riots for probably 556 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: a month all over the country. But because he was 557 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: a victim of black violent police officer behavior apparently based 558 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: on the video, just totally vanishes. But this has led 559 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: to further lawlessness all throughout Memphis. An innocent peace people, white, Black, 560 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: Asian and Hispanic are bearing the brunt of those crimes. 561 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people who have moved out 562 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: of Memphis. A lot of people who live in my 563 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: area of Tennessee are Memphis natives. You talk to them, 564 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: they say, if you have the ability to leave, you 565 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: try to leave, because if you've got a young family, 566 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: the worst thing that could happen is they become an 567 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: innocent victim of violence, and you sit around for the 568 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: rest of your life saying, why did I stay here 569 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: when I could have taken my family somewhere safer, Which 570 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: is just an awful situation to be in. I want 571 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: to tell you all about. We did a show yesterday 572 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: the Patriot Awards. I spent a lot of time with 573 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: Frank Siller, and they have named now at the Patriot 574 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: Awards a. 575 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: Steven Siller Award for. 576 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: Everybody out there who is trying to do good, whether 577 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: you're a police officer, whether you're a member of first responders, 578 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: whether you're an officer, in the military, whether you are 579 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: serving your whatever you're doing to try to make it 580 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 3: better for people out there. Frank Siller's trying to make 581 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: things better for you. And now his new push is 582 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: to try to get as many homeless veterans off the 583 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 3: streets as he possibly can. And I gotta tell you, 584 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: I am blown away by how phenomenal the work that 585 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: Frank Siller and Tunnel to Towers is doing. More important 586 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: than ever as you see viral awfulness like the response 587 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: to Osama bin Laden's letter spread throughout Young America. It's 588 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: more important than ever before to remind people what happened 589 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: twenty two years ago and what true evil is. And 590 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: we've got to continue to honor people like Bristol, Connecticut 591 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: police Sergeant Dustin Demanti. After responding to a domestic violence incident, 592 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: he sustained fatal gunshot wounds. He left behind his expectant 593 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: wife and two kids. Thanks to the generosity of people 594 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: like you, Tunnel of the Towers paid the mortgage on 595 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: the Demante family home, lifting a financial burden. I got 596 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: to give you an update. You probably heard about the 597 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: trad gloss of life in the Mediterranean. Five different military 598 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: members believe it was a helicopter crash, lost their lives. 599 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: I was talking to Frank Siller. They've already tracked down 600 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: one of those individuals and his family. They had three 601 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: young kids. Frank Siller's already paid the mortgage off for 602 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: that family in the first couple of days as they 603 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: deal with the tragedy there, that wife and those three 604 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: young kids don't have to worry about ever paying off 605 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: their mortgage because of the generosity of people like you. 606 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: People are giving their lives every single day to try 607 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 3: to make this country better, and for as little as 608 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: eleven dollars a month, you can help to ensure that 609 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: we take care of those people and their families. Do 610 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: what Buck and myself have both done. Go to T 611 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: two t dot org. That's Tea the number two t 612 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: dot org. 613 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: Learn laugh and Shoin us on the weekend on our 614 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: Sunday Hang with Clay and Fuck podcast, Fight It on 615 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: the iHeart apt or wherever you get your podcasts. 616 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: Get the Holes with Bub Welcome back in Clay Travis 617 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: bock Sexton Show. So this is and I saw him 618 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: last night at the Patriot Awards. Did you know Raymond 619 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: de Royo was a singer to Buck, he's on very 620 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: frequently with Laura Ingram, does nice comedic segments. Fun guy, 621 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: he's got a book out. We're gonna talk with him 622 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: in the next hour. Did you know he's saying, I 623 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: had no idea that. An addition, he's a man of 624 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: many talents. He also sang, I just. 625 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: Learned that myself. Sounds like he's got a very nice voice. 626 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 3: So we're gonna have him on in the third hour 627 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: of the program to hang out and have a have 628 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of fun there. But Buck, we're going 629 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: into Friday, maybe we'll also talk about this. You told 630 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: me that I had no idea. You sat down, he said, 631 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: I'm fired up about Cranberry sauce right now. 632 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, big time. 633 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: Interesting article in the Wall Street Journal on Cranberry's first 634 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: of all Cranberry sauce very polarizing. I was it's a 635 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: once a year thing. Why is that? Like what turkey 636 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: and cranberry sauce for most people like a whole roast turkey. 637 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 2: People saying, oh slight, yeah, okay, But in general, and 638 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: Clay is a cold cutskuy so he's probably a fan 639 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: of turkey and cheese, but correct. Nonetheless, in general, you 640 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: only do the big turkey once a year, and you 641 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: do the cranberry sauce once year. You don't see a 642 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: cranberry sauce is a very seasonal item. It's like pumpkin 643 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 2: spice lattes. And what this article in the Wallsteront Journal 644 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: talked about is that ocean spray, which you may know 645 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: is the thing that makes like cranberry juice that you 646 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: drink as well as well as cranberry sauce. 647 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: Is a farmer collective. 648 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 2: From the northeast of the United States that's responsible for 649 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: like a vast majority of the cranberries out there. And 650 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: this has just been sort of a campaign for a 651 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: long time to expand cranberry into a year long fruit 652 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 2: and not just a once a year thing. 653 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 4: And I'm wondering how you feel about that. 654 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean, this should cranberry like, why don't people put 655 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: cranberry in their cranberries in their smoothies. Why aren't people 656 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: just on cranberry sauce on their you know, I don't know, 657 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 2: on their lamb chops or something. 658 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: I am all in on big cranberry. 659 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: I got made fun of this. I like all of it. 660 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 3: I eat crazins all the time I order cranberry juice regularly, 661 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: I might have the best urinary tract on the planet 662 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: as a result, because I think that's supposed to be 663 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: a strong urinary health tract. My understanding, because I'm buying 664 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 3: into the big cranberry propaganda, may not even be true. 665 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: I would eat cranberries. I would eat them, you know, 666 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: every week. I'm totally fine with that. I don't know why. 667 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: This is just something that and I like the canned cranberries, 668 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: like the jelly cranberry that may not be very healthy 669 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: for you, I don't know, but I love that too. 670 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm all in on cranberry. So if we need it, 671 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: if we need an endorsement buck, I will be. I 672 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: will beat a cranberry emissary to America. 673 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 4: I do. 674 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: I think it should expand out, you know. I think 675 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 2: that there's more use for cranberry. I like the tart 676 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: sweetness of it too, you know. I think it's some 677 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: more complex flavor. 678 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 4: So people are gonna think that. 679 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: You and I just got paid so much money by 680 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 3: cranberries to to come here full throated endorsement of. 681 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: Everyone listening to this, I bet ninety ninety five percent 682 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: are gonna have cranberry sauce on the Thanksgiving True, it's 683 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: like a requirement. 684 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 4: And it just kind of came out of nowhere. 685 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: And why does it is a great question. Why there 686 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: are occasional foods. I mean peeps for instance, for Easter, right, 687 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: the little the little peak things show up, So that's 688 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: really a food. But yeah, sure, well yeah, but they 689 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: don't exist year round. What's the corn, the candy corn 690 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: or whatever, it doesn't exist. You're gonna go the t 691 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 3: February eggs. Why don't we know that's your hazier round. 692 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 3: They're not exactly a health food, but delicious last hour 693 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 3: of the week. Next we're gonna make the world better.