1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News, Single Best Idea, the 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: highlight of the week, well not the highlight, but it 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: was fun. Mark Messier joined. Just wonderful to have him on. 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Of course, many of you always associate Mark Messier with 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: a certain style of hockey for the New York Rangers, 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: but really a claim happened earlier with the Edmonton Oilers. 7 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: Now they're in the Stanley Cup and we talked to 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: mister Messi about that. He seemed to tilt to the 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Florida Panthers. But in honor of Mark Messier and his 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: great charity in New York City, the Mark Messier Foundation, 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: and his effort with first responders, let's do a hat 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: trick of women here on single Best Idea. Captain Kaminski 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: is in Boston, out of the Andrew Low Combine at MIT. 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: It's hugely math based, it's hugely trend based. She and 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: I are on the same page on that. Let's get 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: right to it. Here is Kathy Kaminsky on this great 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: bull market. 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned. I mean, the signals are still 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: there positive for equities, but this week really made me 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: pause thinking that some of the themes have changed significantly. 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: We saw massive synchronous moves cross asset. Look at what 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: happened to yields, I mean, they just plummeted over the 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: last week. You've also seen commodity markets really spooked me 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: the most. I think we saw massive reversal and commodity 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: trends which have been very higher for longer pro inflationary, 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: and the dollars also struggled. So it's been a very 27 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: risk off week in some sense. So we had a 28 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: really different moves than we've seen earlier this year, which 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: makes me nervous and. 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Really underscore their Katie Kominsky's comments on commodities. We underplayed 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: that this week, but it'll be fast to see, particularly 32 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: in the industrial metal space, what copper does here migrating 33 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: through Oh this newsflow, that news flow in the FED, 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: and of course next week's CPI on the same day 35 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: as the FED, that will be sporting to say the 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: least will stagger from eight thirty to two pm, and 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: whatever the Fed decides were very much now the idea 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: that they will not move the yield like ECB did 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: move the rate, I should say, like the ECB, like 40 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Leguard did. A city group I know just as we 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: go to taping here moving from July to September on 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: their first rate cut. Speaking of rate cut, there's people 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: going the other way. What if we saw a rate 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: increase due to a buoyant economy. We got an update 45 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: from Lindsay peg as a steefol. She's very lonely out 46 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: there saying just hold off on the rate cut chit chat. 47 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: She emphasized that again maybe pulling away a little bit 48 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: from the rate increase. On where we are with jobs, 49 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: Lindsay pigs, I do. 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: Cut against reading in too much to the headline payrolls number, 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: because we are starting to see somewhat of divergence between 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: the payrolls and the household survey. Payrolls are consistently reaching 53 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: new highs month after months, but the household survey really 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: has shown somewhat of fatigue and plateauing over the past 55 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: I would say six to eight months. The disconnect, of 56 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: course reflecting the fact that we consistently under account the 57 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: working age population, particularly now as we see these large 58 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: flows of immigration coming into the economy, legal and illegal. 59 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: But also what we're seeing is this shift in the 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: demand or the type of jobs being created in terms 61 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: of full time versus part time. Now, I haven't dug 62 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: into the details of this report specifically, last month was 63 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: almost entirely full time, but if we go prior to 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: that six to eight months, that was almost entirely part 65 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: time employment, which as we know, part time hires typically 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: have more than one gig and then of course you're 67 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: counted more than once in the payroll report, which could 68 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: artificially inflate that number. So again, still positive, but I 69 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: do think there's some underlying signs of the economy starting 70 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: to cool, that rebalancing. 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: As I mentioned Lins Pigs with stephil we told there'd 72 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: be a bonus round today. We usually do two voices, 73 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: but we've got to do three voices. And you know, 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: it's sort of like at the end the Raiders of 75 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: the Lost Ark, where they find the Arc and they 76 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: put it in storage in the Pentagon and the huge 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: storage chamber, and you know, the ARC's lost forever somewhere 78 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: in the battles of the federal government of the United States. 79 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: That's how people feel about Claudius Sim's research. I mean, 80 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: she really has owned the high ground this year. An 81 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: academic zeitgeist, hugely popular, deservedly popular, and the PhD from 82 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: Michigan with their fed work has become a real statement 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: of yes, this is how I measure a recession, and no, 84 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: we're not near a And of course she looks like 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: a genius right now in this continued sizable boom economy. 86 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: We talked to Claudia Sam about very serious things. Look 87 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg Opinion, her essay out this week forceful and inflation, 88 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: and of course with Claudia Sam, you've got to go 89 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: to the anecdotal inflation in the Sam kitchen. And once 90 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: again it's about her damn cats. I think I'm doing 91 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: what a lot of Americans are. 92 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: When things get more expensive, you don't switch to a 93 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: cheaper brand. Puffy Kitty, She's more than happy to eat 94 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 2: drive Purina cat food. 95 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: It was on sale last week. Oh, switching from Science 96 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: diet over to Purina. It's out there in the zeitgeisten 97 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Sam living it with Puffy the Cat. We're trying 98 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: to make this six minutes so smart. There's a lot 99 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: of good podcasts out there. Look to David Guraz the 100 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: Big Take if you want to look at a twenty 101 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: minute special really well produced to the themes of the 102 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: moment that Bloomberg does see we're trying to slip in 103 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: six minutes as smart. We try to do that on 104 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts. It is a single best idea