1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Second hour Playing Buck kicks off right now. We have 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: our friend Bill O'Reilly joining us. He's got eighteen number 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: one best selling books in his Killing series. The latest 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: is Killing the Legends The Lethal Danger of Celebrity. And 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: he's also going to tell us about his next book 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: coming out in September. Maybe gives a little sneak peek 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: at that one. Bill always appreciate you joining us. Thank you, sir. 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: Hey you guys doing We're okay, We're okay. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: We're trying to make sense of some pretty complicated and 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: I think momentous stuff here. 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: All, let's start with this. 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: When we were just talking to this, we want to 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: get your take on Biden, and we heard the audio 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: of you earlier in the week talking about where you 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: think the Biden situation is going. But on the Trump 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: side of things, how do you assess the It feels 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: like the legal jeopardy is swirling around him a little 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: bit and growing. Do you think he's got a real 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: problem or is he just going to manage to, you know, 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: knock this down like he has so many other things. 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: He's got a logistical problem. So the strategy among the 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: anti Trump people, and it's coordinated, is to prevent him 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: from running an effective campaign for president in twenty twenty four, right, 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: So they're going to load him up with he's got 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: the New York City stuff, and now that's going to 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: be heard in March of twenty four, right in the 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: middle of the primary season. I do expect the Special 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Council to indict him on the document thing, not on 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: January sixth, it's two week, but on the document thing. 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: So we'll have to deal with that, and god knows 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: what else will come out. But it's a coordinated campaign 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: to prevent Trump from being able to campaign effectively for president. 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: That's what's happening. 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: How does that play, Bill? So this is we agree 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: with you, not only that. By the way, we think 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: they'll be charges in Atlanta. We think they'll try to 39 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: stack him and keep him in court as much as 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: they possibly can, so they don't allow him to go 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 4: out and campaign as a typical political candidate would. We 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: saw a rallying around Trump effect with the New York 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: City charges, and even a lot of left leaning people 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 4: had to say, hey, you know what, this is really 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: kind of a bogus charge that's been brought against him 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: in New York City. So federal charges, Atlanta charges. Does 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: that help him in any way win a general election? 48 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: How does the electorate, so called persuadable voters respond in 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: your mind? 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think that they like this. I'm generalizing now. 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't see the Georgia stuff as a problem for 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: him because his lawyers will be able to delay that. 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: And it's very weak. It's very, very similar to the 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Ukraine phone call, very similar. And she got a very 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: weak case. She knows, she does. If this is Fanny 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: whatever her name is in Fulton County. If he had 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: a strong case, who would have already brought it. So 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: it's a nuisance case. He'll be able to back that up. 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: But federal charges again on the documents, that'll be a 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: big deal. The New York thing, it's already a ridiculous situation, 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: but it's annoying. He's going to have to come and 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: answer now. As far as Mossuaitable people are concerned, it's 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: too early to tell. So the MAGA people are with him. 64 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: They're not going to bail. Although dessantas if he campaigns effectively, 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: he might be able to peel off ten percent of 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: the MAGA people, because the MAGA people will say he's 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: got a better chance to beat whatever Democrat runs possible. 68 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: But the persuadable people, we won't know until the economy 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: plays out until early twenty twenty four. And that's why 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: this thing, this is why McCartney McCarthy did what he did. 71 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Because McCarthy knew if the Republics e behind this debt 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: ceiling deal, that the economy would wobble big time, and 73 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: that the media would blame the Republicans, and the persuadables 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: people who don't pay close atten attention and not listening 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: to The York Show or My show, they buy it. 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 1: So McCarthy just basically playing a long game, saying, look, 77 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: we'll stop the crazy spending for two years and hopefully 78 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: we'll win across the board in twenty four and then 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: we can go in and slash and burn the budget. 80 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: And it was I just got off the phone with him, McCarthy. 81 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: It was a smart strategy. He did the right thing 82 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: for the country and for his party. I'm not a 83 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: party guy, but I understand why he did what he did. 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: But as far as Trump is concerned Trump is formidable. 85 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: In times of chaos, people look to a strong man. 86 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: It was one of the columns that I wrote on 87 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: billow rou If you go throughout history, every time you 88 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: have chaos in a country, the people look for somebody 89 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: who to come in and say, I'm going to knock 90 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: this down right away? Would they call it? In politics? 91 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: You're with Biden, You've said on the show before, you 92 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: still don't buy that he's going to be the eventual 93 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: Democrat running for president? Are you with that still? And 94 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: how do you see that playing out? Because we're getting 95 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: pretty deep into into the season now. 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Not really if you understand the process, so up until 97 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: the day before the convention, the Democratic convention, you can 98 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: have a new nominee come out of nowhere, and like 99 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: if Michelle Obama decides to run at the last minute, 100 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: they'll hand her the nomination. And should I have to 101 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: campaign or do anything. That's the way the system works. 102 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: So it's a first ballot. If there's no first ballot 103 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: and Biden's not going to campaign, he can barely get 104 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: out of bed. And I do stand behind my prediction 105 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: that he will not run. And Democrats are scrambling now 106 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: to find anybody to take his place. Nobody wants in 107 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: the run. Nobody, So it's Jill. 108 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: Jill does doctor. 109 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: She wants him to run because it's perk city for her. 110 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: But the guy, and believe me, this shoe is going 111 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: to drop on him about the Hunter Biden bribery stuff 112 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: that's coming down the pike, and that's going to be 113 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: a much bigger story than whatever Trump has to face. 114 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 4: Okay, so I think that's fascinating. When will that happen? 115 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: Bucket? 116 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: I believe that it's likely Trump's gonna get hit with 117 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 4: federal charges in June July. Do you think there's any 118 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: chance that Biden would decide to pardon Trump on federal 119 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: charges or because I think it would be a political masterstroke. 120 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: I don't think his brain works well enough to come 121 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: up with it himself. 122 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: But he'll agrees with me because he's a brilliant man. 123 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: No change in your mind. 124 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: The Democrats faithful hate Trump so much that they're not 125 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: going to do anything like that. I don't think you Look, 126 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: if you read the New York Times, you will know 127 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: when Trump is going to you on how they're shaping 128 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: their editorials and their news coverage, which she really isn't 129 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: news coverage, by the way, anymore. So you might be right, 130 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: it might be in the summer that Trump gets this, 131 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: but that in itself isn't going to really affect the election, because, 132 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: as you both point out accurately, it's built into the 133 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: cake or whether they say baked into the muffin or 134 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: whatever muffy in the case, it's already baked in. All right, 135 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: the fixes in the folks know they're out to get Trump. 136 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if they put twenty percent of the effort 137 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: into looking into Hunter Biden and what he did and 138 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: how he did it, as they are going through this 139 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: document stuff trying to find anything, then already there would 140 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: be an indictment against Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden would 141 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: be in much more political trouble than he is now. 142 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: Bill, do you want to tell everybody a little preview of. 143 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: I know you've got a book out right now, Killing 144 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: the Celebrities, but you got one coming out. 145 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: Can you tell us about. 146 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: It or are we just teasing that it's really interesting 147 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: because it ties right into it's Killing the Witches. The 148 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Horror of Salem, Massachusetts out September twenty sixth, and the 149 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: first third of the book is about this mass murder 150 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: that the authorities in the Massachusetts Bay Column, he reeked 151 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: upon these four people, and it's harrowing. I mean, people 152 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: have no idea. And we started the book on the Mayflower, 153 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: the voyage over and you have no blanket idea what 154 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: those people went through to get here. But then the 155 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: book takes a turn into how the witch trials influenced 156 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: our constitution. And Benjamin Franklin was right in the middle 157 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: of all this because he was so appalled by the 158 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: murders and that's what they were in Salem, that he 159 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: turned against religion. He was a Bostonian, Benjamin Franklin. He 160 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: moved to Philadelphia as an adult, all right, and his 161 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: parents were Puritans. They were the same sect that was 162 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: killing the witches. And Franklin, who's a genius. At the 163 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: age of twelve, he would have been a great talk 164 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: radio host. Okay, he actually went to the house of 165 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: the chief witch hunter, Increase Mather, and it's an unbelievably 166 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: fascinating story about how we live today, goes back to 167 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: what happened in the executing of the twenty Riches. So 168 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: that book will be out in September. 169 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: Last question for you Bill, you're a history guy. Buck 170 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: and I are both history guys. We hear so much 171 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: about threats to democracy and history and the right and 172 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: wrong side of history, which is always so ironic because 173 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: frequently you have no idea what the right and wrong 174 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: side of history is going to be. But I will 175 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 4: say this, I feel like the historians out there, and 176 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: there's so many of them that go on MSNBC and 177 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: CNN and try to indict Trump for how awful he 178 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: is are wildly underplaying what an unbelievable precedent it would 179 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: set for the party in power to indict its chief 180 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 4: political rival and to put him in prison in the 181 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: middle of an election year. We've never seen anything like this. 182 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: What do you think historically this will look like? Yeah, 183 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: because I'm curious, based on the analogy you were just 184 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: drawing there with the same witch trials, if it was. 185 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: Sixty ninety that hang Trump, he'd be hanging from a 186 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: tree because it's the same kind of mentality. Trump's the devil, 187 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: and the devil drove all of the witch trials. But look, 188 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: if you read my message of the day on Bill 189 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: O'Reilly dot com, and you guys should do that every morning. 190 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: You'll see. It's not a danger to democracy that we 191 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: are facing right now. That's coming. But right now we're 192 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: facing a collapse of the American justice system, both criminal 193 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: and civil. It is collapsing before our eyes. And anybody 194 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: who's been in Chicago or San Francisco or LA or 195 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: New York or Baltimore, on and on and on, you 196 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: can see it. It's there. And that extends into the 197 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: political arena. So the FBI is corrupt, The most powerful 198 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: crime agency in the world is corrupt, openly corrupt. And 199 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: I wrote Killing the Mob. I know more about the 200 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: FBI than any human being in the country. And I 201 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: used to be a big fan, not anymore. So once 202 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: the justice system collapses, then you have to worry about 203 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: democracy collapsing, because then there is no standard of behavior, 204 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: no rights are given, no wrongs are righted. And that's 205 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: what we're looking at. And I'm trying to be Paul 206 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Revere here and say we got to stop this, and 207 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: the only way to stop it is to crush the 208 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: progressive movement. That is the only way we have to 209 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: crush them, not beat them, crush them. 210 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent right, Bill O'Reilly. Check them out. 211 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: Bill O'Reilly dot com. Look forward to talking to you 212 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: again sometime soon. We'll see whether the Biden dropping out 213 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: prediction comes true, and if it does, we'll have you 214 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: on right after. 215 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, appreciate it. 216 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: Thank you Bill. Look and right now going on in 217 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: the country. No matter what political party you even support, 218 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: I think even Democrats would acknowledge this. We got a 219 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: major issue with no testosterone in this country. You know, 220 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: testosteronees down fifty percent over the last fifty years. There's 221 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: a fun Instagram account Buck and I both follow. 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Well, I think one of 264 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: the great failings of our justice system in Joe Biden's tenure, 265 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: maybe the biggest failure of our justice system during Joe 266 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: Biden's tenure, which is truly saying something, is the treatment 267 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: of the January sixth defendants. And we have talked a 268 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: great deal on this program with Julie Kelly about it. 269 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: Buck I donated money to help these people to hopefully 270 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: be able to get better attorneys than they would otherwise 271 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: have access to. Trump has started talking a lot about 272 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: these jan six defendants now that he is on the 273 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: campaign trail. Here is what he said just most recently 274 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: about those January sixth defendants and their treatment. 275 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 5: Then you look at what they've done to the January 276 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 5: six people. They've destroyed them and destroyed their lives and 277 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 5: a lot of them didn't even go into the building. 278 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 5: It was a disgrace. What's going on. That is a 279 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: disgrace that's going to go down in history ultimately. And 280 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: Ashley Babbitt was killed, shot by in my opinion, a 281 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: rogue cup He had no business doing that. He shot 282 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: her unarmed, and actually people say she was trying to 283 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 5: hold back the people that were pushing her forward. Astley 284 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 5: Babbitt was the one that was killed. She was the 285 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: one that was killed. 286 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Look, the treatment of the January sixth defendants and just 287 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: the way that we've seen an overall weaponization of the 288 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: Justice Department in matters of politics is deeply distressing for 289 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: the future of the country. And I also can't help 290 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: but separate. You have the way blmris are treated versus 291 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: the way January sixth was treated, and that includes the 292 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: way BLM was treated while Trump was was president. I 293 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: mean know, it's local, it's local DA's and others who 294 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 2: are supposed to be prosecuting that. And then there's also 295 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: the way that criminality of all kinds Clay has been 296 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: effectively legalized by Democrats. 297 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: We could talk more about this at. 298 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: The same time that now they're a rule of law, 299 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: an obstruction of justice and emolument's clause and what they 300 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: hate the rule of law unless it serves their power interests. 301 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 4: They want nobody in prison except January sixth, defendants and Trump. 302 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 4: Basically Verizon AT and T T Mobile. If you're with them, 303 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 4: you're overpaying. 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And 323 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: I mentioned this before. It's because we're really talking a 324 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: lot today. I think if we had to describe an 325 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: overarching theme, it's the degradation and even really possible destruction 326 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: of our faith in the rule of law in this country, 327 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: and how important it is to have shared principles with 328 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: regard to the law, shared understanding of what the laws are, 329 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: why they exist, and what they're supposed to do. Increasingly, 330 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: I think we've seen the law and this is largely 331 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: a function of or perhaps the most prominent aspect of 332 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: this is the effort to get Donald Trump. But we've 333 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: seen the law used as a weapon of politics, and 334 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: you know, we can't we can't beat the message, so 335 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: we'll lock the messenger up. 336 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: Is effectively the attitude. 337 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: And I can't help but notice that at the same 338 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 2: time that this is going on, And you know, I 339 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: was happy to hear Bill. We just spoke to Bill 340 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: O'Riley before. Bill doesn't seem I don't think this is 341 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: what we raised the first hour. I just mean, what 342 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: you know, mechanically happens when Trump has to go and 343 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: show up in court and deal with all this nonsense. 344 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: And I think that he sees this too. He agrees 345 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: that itself is a problem. You're running for prisident, but 346 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: you get to show up in court and be a defendant. 347 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: So even if let's say they get no convictions and 348 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: so the whole he's not going to prison, he's not convicted, 349 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: but they just bring these cases. That's a form of 350 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: rigging the system. That alone is meant to rig the system. 351 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: And I think we all see that. But they're doing 352 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: it also at a time when it feels like we 353 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: have more lawlessness than certainly anytime in the last twenty 354 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: or thirty years. And I'm thinking about this. First of all, 355 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: I know, Clay, weren't you talking about You're and Fox 356 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: talking about San France. New York has lost five percent 357 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: of people since COVID. A lot of it is COVID related, 358 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: a lot of it is people getting sick of the 359 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: crime and degradation. 360 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: What was the number for San Francisco. 361 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: Seven and a half percent of San Francisco residents have 362 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: left in the last two years. 363 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: For a city to lose that many people a major city, 364 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: and also those are Remember it's not like it's a 365 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: referendum wherever' just votes. Am I staying? Where am I going? 366 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: A lot of people can't leave. Who would want to leave? 367 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: A lot of people are in a house that maybe 368 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: they you know, they have to make the payments on, 369 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 2: maybe they're underwater. Their job requires them, their family requires 370 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: them to stay where they are. When you're getting close 371 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: to a double digit loss of population, the city city 372 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: should be gaining people every year, if you're like historically, 373 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: that's generally what happens in major American cities. So that's 374 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: a massive indicator of something going deeply wrong. 375 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: You know. 376 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: On Daily Mail, I know, I love this British website. 377 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. They get. They 378 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: got a lot of photos. It's good, good stuff. You 379 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: like the Daily Mail too. 380 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: Daily Bil does good work. They have a they call 381 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: it a free for all. Brazen thieves stroll out of 382 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: home depot with packed carts as ross dress for less. 383 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: Manager says their store is being hit four times a day. 384 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: Crazy and then and then they have experts worn that 385 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: shoplifting is costing retailers one hundred billion dollars a year 386 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: right now in retail theft, the estimate is one hundred 387 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: billion dollars worth of st I mean that's a lot 388 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: of razorblade cartridges, you know what I mean, that's a 389 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: lot of theft going on. And what you see in 390 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 2: this in this piece play, that's it's so really shocking 391 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: and upsetting. 392 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: Is it's not like they're being stealthy. They're showing up, 393 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: there are cameras. 394 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 2: They sometimes have a bag like a big sack like 395 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: you know, Santa Claus style, a satchel, whatever you call it. 396 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: And other times they even roll in rooms with like 397 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: a shopping cart and they just pilot with stuff that 398 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: they're stealing. And the stores now say, don't do anything 399 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: about it. If you call the police, if you work 400 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 2: at what was that or. 401 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: Lulu Women, I might I think it's. 402 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: I don't know why I say it that way, but 403 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: that's why Lulu Women, Right, that's the way around it. 404 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: But they're but they're stealing all of this stuff all 405 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: the time, and you know, the the destruction of property rights. 406 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: I know, this feels like is it really a philosophical 407 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: political philosophy moment. I think it is the abandonment by 408 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: the state of property rights of individuals and of companies 409 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: and businesses is a. 410 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: Huge, a huge problem. 411 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: For us because the the the downstream degradation that occurs 412 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: from people seeing this lawlessness all the time, the destruction 413 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: of businesses. And Democrats have no problem with this. Really, 414 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: that's the thing that's so crazy. 415 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: Well, and it all ties together right when you lose 416 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: seven and a half percent of your population, as San 417 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 4: Francisco has according to census data over the last two years. 418 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 4: They also buck now are not able to keep a 419 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 4: Nordstrom open. Think about how crazy that is. They had 420 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 4: to shut them down in San Francisco. They couldn't keep 421 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: a Whole Foods open, a Whole Foods that was just 422 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 4: down the street from Twitter headquarters that was supposed to 423 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 4: keep all these high tech workers fed. They can't keep 424 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: people safe in those places. And so when you see 425 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: what's going on, and there was a great their credit 426 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: front page story discussing thievery and mass theft in the 427 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 4: New York Times, which pointed out that this is not 428 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: like somebody grabbing a Snickers bar in a convenience store 429 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: and trying to sneak out with it. 430 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 3: These are people who are engaging. 431 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: In mass theft and then taking all the product that 432 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 4: they still that they steal and putting it out onto 433 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: the larger marketplace and buck what was it, a third 434 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 4: of the value of theft, if I'm remembering correctly in 435 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: New York City, was committed by like twenty five what 436 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: was a tiny number of people, like a couple one hundred? 437 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: I think it was that we're doing. 438 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: Like this industrial theft and they just keep getting released 439 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: and going out and doing a game. 440 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: Well, think about how many people in a situation where 441 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: they believe, especially let's say they're people that have had 442 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 2: drug addiction problems, pre existing criminal records, if their belief 443 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: is that they can steal one thousand dollars of merchandise 444 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: a day, and maybe they don't. 445 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: Even do it every day. 446 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: You know, they want to take days off from the theft, 447 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: but they do that ten times a month. You know, 448 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: they got to rest up for more theft. Think about 449 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: how much that is when they're going and selling it 450 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: on eBay or however on some site online, or selling 451 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: it to people on a street corner, and they know 452 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: they're not going to be punished in. 453 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: Any meaningful way. 454 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you're in set once you get to this point. 455 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: Theft is being incentivized in a systematic way, and it's 456 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: hard not to see this. And people start to throw 457 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: on the term, you know, anarcho tyranny. But you know, 458 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: we're being lectured about Trump an obstruction of justice. While 459 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: in New York City, you can't walk into a drug 460 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: store in Midtown Manhattan and see products that aren't under 461 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: lock and key all over the place, see people that are. 462 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 2: I saw people committing theft. And the crazy thing is 463 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: I would see people committing theft in New York and 464 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: I knew that. You know, look, it's not my store, 465 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: it's not my product. I'm not really But let's just 466 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: say I did get involved in say something, and let's 467 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: say that person then puts their hands on me, and 468 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: I have to defend myself. Can I trust that Alvin Bragg, 469 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: the District Attorney of New York, wouldn't throw the book 470 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: at me, make an example of me. Look what's going 471 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: We haven't talked about the Jordan Neely trial and a 472 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: Jordan Nearly incident in the trial of Daniel Penny. In 473 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: a little while but they're sending very clear messages to everybody. 474 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: Self defense is illegal. Theft, though is to be encouraged. 475 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: It's redistribution of wealth. 476 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 4: Clay specifically not allowed if you're a white guy. Right, 477 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: because the only reason that story anybody paid attention to 478 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: it at all is because of the race of the 479 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: of the Daniel Penny when he put the choke hold 480 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: on Jordan Neely. In fact, Buck, when we come back, 481 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: here's a heck of a tease for you. We're gonna 482 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 4: talk to Andy McCarthy, by the way, in the third hour. 483 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 4: I can't wait to hear from him what he thinks 484 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: about the scheduling the potential charges against Trump based on 485 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 4: the new information CNN, Washington Post, and New York Times 486 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: and others have been talking about in the classified documents. 487 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: It's the three year anniversary, Buck of Kamala Harris putting 488 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 4: up her tweet offering to bail out anyone who was 489 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: arrested during the BLM riots. That tweet still up, good 490 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: roster from our guy Greg Price. Of all the different 491 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 4: charges that people have gotten away with in terms of 492 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: crimes thanks to getting bailed out during all those BLM riots. 493 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: And I'll point this out. 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All right, 529 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: I want to hit you with this because I think 530 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: it ties in well. We're going to talk with Andy 531 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 4: McCarthy at the top of the next hour. But it 532 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: is now the three year I mean, this is unbelievable 533 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: the way that Trump is treated for January sixth, compared 534 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: to the way that Democrats who advocated and actually bailed 535 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 4: out rioters and looters the way that they are treated. 536 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: Three years ago today, Buck, we were in the. 537 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: Midst of nasty BLM riots all over this country. Many 538 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: of you lived through them, A lot of you, Buck, 539 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 4: You talked about this in New York City. You weren't 540 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: even comfortable sometimes going down and walking around the street 541 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: to New York because there was so much riding going 542 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: on every night. I've never seen riding and looting in 543 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 4: Nashville before. That was going on in my own hometown, 544 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: I mean, but for people in New York, I mean, 545 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: this was an omnipresent fear. 546 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 3: There were store. 547 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: Years ago, there were stores with the glass window fronts 548 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: shattered and everything stolen from them. And I wonder how 549 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: many of those people got arrested and that should be 550 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: treated as gang or you know, ryot theft. But you know, Democrats, democrats, 551 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: different rules. 552 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: Here is the tweet Kamala Harris sent if you're able 553 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: to chip in now to the Minnesota Freedom Fund to 554 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 4: help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota. 555 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 4: Can you imagine, Buck, the reaction if Trump had tweeted 556 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: a link for January sixth defendants within the day or 557 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 4: two after January sixth, it would have been considered a crime. 558 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: Now. 559 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: Democrats, of course, refer to their riots months of them 560 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: as mostly peaceful protests, which was made fun of and 561 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: mocked perfectly by CNN when there's a police station on 562 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: fire in the background. He's talking about mostly peaceful protests. 563 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: But this, I think is an argument that should be 564 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 4: made much more vociferously by Republicans. January sixth, people who 565 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 4: committed crimes, Okay, you're going to prosecute him. Fuck, how 566 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 4: many people do you think actually have spent over a year? 567 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 4: I would love to know the data on this. Maybe 568 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 4: I can text Julie Kelly, and I think it would 569 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 4: be a phenomenal story. How many rioters from the BLM protests, 570 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: buck do you think have spent more than. 571 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: A year in prison? Are there any? 572 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 4: Very I mean this honestly, like almost none of them 573 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: got prosecuted. And I'm not talking about people who you know, 574 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 4: let's say that you committed a murder in the middle 575 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: of the of the protest or whatever. I'm talking about 576 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: just a rioter, right in the same way that there 577 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 4: are many people who just entered the capital that faced 578 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: draconian punishments. Have any of them ever really been held 579 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 4: to account in any parts of the country for what 580 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: they did riding. I mean, Portland basically got shut down 581 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: for a year because of Antifa. Did hardly anything happen 582 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 4: to any of these people the answer of courses, No, 583 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 4: Most of them got away with months of protest injure 584 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 4: the police. 585 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: The true feeling of the authorities, whether it's Portland or DC, 586 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: or New York or LA or Nashville or wherever, the 587 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: feeling of the people in charge is that that rioting 588 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: was justified. Correct, Those violations of law happening systematically across 589 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: the country, thousands, tens of thousands of times, over and 590 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: over again, those were for a righteous cause, the cause 591 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: of combating racism. 592 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: So when you're. 593 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: Upset about racism, you can burn down a building, you 594 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: can loose a store. That's fine when you're upset about Trump. 595 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: By the way, it was twenty twenty. As we know, 596 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: I've said this before. The twenty twenty election was held 597 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: with the implied threat of more riots. 598 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: Correct. 599 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: If Trump were the we don't talk about that very much. 600 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 2: If Trump were the president for four more years. I 601 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: remember this in New York City, they were boarded up 602 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 2: stores everyone's oh my god, what if Trump wins, They're 603 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: going to destroy everything. And I mean this is monstrous. 604 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: I mean there is a demonic force that was unleashed here, 605 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 2: and the people that were supposed to believe in the 606 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: rule of law and principle said, oh, these are Biden voters. 607 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: I can't do winning about that. 608 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 4: This is also I think when many of our listeners 609 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 4: finally said the lockdowns are insane, because this was when 610 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: all the scientists and all the experts they came out 611 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 4: and said, well, yeah, you shouldn't be able to be 612 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 4: in close proximity to anybody because of COVID, but we're 613 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 4: going to make an exception for the hundreds of thousands 614 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 4: of people who engaged in protests surrounding the George Floyd 615 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 4: incident and buck they actually said that that they tried 616 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: to make the argument that was justified because of the 617 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: danger that the protesters were trying to combat. And I 618 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 4: remember making jokes on my sports talk radio show back 619 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 4: in the day then about how can we just call 620 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 4: a football game a protest then and have a full 621 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: stadium and say we're protesting the opposing team. 622 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 3: Because that was a. 623 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 4: Moment around late May early June, where even some people, 624 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 4: some of you out there, I bet listening to me 625 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: right now, we're still very apprehensive about COVID. 626 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 3: And as soon as. 627 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 4: You saw all of the foremost experts on the science 628 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: suddenly sign letters saying, oh, you should be able to 629 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 4: go out and march in the streets when they wouldn't 630 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 4: let your kids be in school and they wouldn't let 631 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 4: people have normal lives. And then suddenly for the George 632 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: Floyd protests, flood the streets, get as close to as 633 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 4: many people as you want. 634 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: That's fine. 635 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it was a one two punch Fauci 636 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: flipping on masks based on nothing, nothing, Yeah, just because 637 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 2: people needed it, because masks were a sign and we're 638 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: all so scared, but we're complying and we're doing something. 639 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: And then the justification of the BLM riots and we 640 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: were all pulled to stay home. It's also remember they 641 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 2: were going to talk about abuse of rule of law. 642 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: They were willing to lock up people for protesting lockdowns. 643 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, during the lockdown. 644 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: But protesting you know, racial injustice or whatever. Just I'm 645 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: angry and I'm a leftist. That's really what BLM was 646 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: all about. Had nothing to do with anything substantive or 647 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: policy related. 648 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: It was just they're angry. That was fine. 649 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: That was fine, And I mean the people that went 650 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: along with all that stuff and act like it was 651 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: some great reckoning for racial and social justice. Where did 652 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: that take us as a country. I wonder they feel 653 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: any guilt for making all cities across the country more violent, 654 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: less safe, spiking crime all across America. I don't know 655 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: how do they feel about the end result of that 656 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: protest movement play