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Speaker 2: This is Draft season and presented by Moody's, a proud

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Speaker 2: sponsor of the New York Football Giants. John Schmelk coming

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Speaker 2: to you from the Giants podcast studio, presented by Hackensack,

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Speaker 2: Marity Hell Keep getting Better as always, joined by Tony

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Speaker 2: Pauline from Essentially Sports and Tony are only five weeks

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Speaker 2: away from the NFL Draft. Fregency's in the real rearview mirror.

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Speaker 2: We will redo our team needs in a mock draft

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Speaker 2: next week. This week we're gonna do our defensive top tens.

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Speaker 2: But baseball is starting to kick up. The tournament's gonna start.

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Speaker 2: You got the NBA playoffs about a month away. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, happy Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 3: Top of the Marchie Irish, John o' smelk and all

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Speaker 3: the viewers out there who are not criey Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 3: You know you mentioned the tournament and you make you've

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Speaker 3: made my eclectic interest a topic on the show. Guess

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Speaker 3: where I was Saturday night?

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Speaker 1: Where was all you mentioned the tournament? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Was it some type of like like Division two lacrosse

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it was either that or it was curling.

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Speaker 3: But no, I was at Madison Square Garden for the

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Speaker 3: final in the Big East Tournament Saturday night, watching my

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Speaker 3: proud alma mater, the Saint John's Red Storm, as I

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Speaker 3: know in the Saint John's redmand because when I competed

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Speaker 3: the Redman back then. Watching Saint John's when their second

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Speaker 3: consecutive Big East title, kicking the snot out of the

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Speaker 3: Yukon Huskies. And I got to tell you, I haven't

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Speaker 3: been to a basketball game in thirty years. I'm not

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Speaker 3: to the final, and it was absolutely electric. It was incredible.

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Speaker 3: I mean there was almost twenty thousand people in there

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Speaker 3: I'd say this probably as many, not more Yukon Husky

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Speaker 3: But I mean, my body hurt on Sunday because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I admit I do not follow college basketball like

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Speaker 2: in the day. And my understanding is that they did

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Speaker 2: not get a great seed and they're not get a

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Speaker 3: Seems crazy, especially since they beat Yukon two out of

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Speaker 3: three times this season one and one in the regular season,

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Speaker 3: And you know, I was like, you know, if I

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Speaker 3: transcribing reports that are essentially sports, And then I realized,

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Speaker 3: So I said, you know, what, the heck with it,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, sounds like it was a great time and

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Speaker 2: next week, we're going to reset all the team needs

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Speaker 2: in the form of a round one mock draft Tony,

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Speaker 2: and now will kind of go through that. I guess

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Speaker 2: Tony gave us his top tens at each position on offense.

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Speaker 3: Not a good year for the defensive tackle, not a

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Speaker 2: And to Tony. Tony, just real quick on Woods before

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Speaker 2: He had a ten yard split. But for a guy

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Speaker 2: His numbers on his jumps and everything, they were just

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Speaker 3: Never mind the fact that everyone thought he was super athletic.

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Speaker 3: that is definitely a red flag. Number two would be

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Speaker 3: Kaden McDonald from Ohio State, who I got to interview

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Speaker 3: me that speed with Matt Patricia, you know, kind of

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Speaker 3: pushed him towards entering the draft. A big, physical interior

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Speaker 3: guy who shows out leticism like Peter Banks, makes a

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Speaker 3: other people, the teammates, to make plays. He's gotten upside

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing about him, Tony, I'll just add

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Speaker 2: Just very little pass rush repertoire moves. He'll rush with

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Speaker 2: some power. You're right, I agree. I think there's upside.

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Speaker 2: You see the burst and you see what he could become.

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Speaker 2: But man, in terms of and look, his run defense

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Speaker 2: really hasn't shown any you know, repertoire of moves or

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Speaker 3: And I think that comes from being just the first

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Speaker 1: Who else they have on day two? I'm sorry, who

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Speaker 3: Day two? Lee Hunter, the big defensive tackle from Texas

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Speaker 3: good at Jilly. He's not just a small area alignment,

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Speaker 3: as a second round pig. Really big athletic guy, six

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Speaker 3: head again. Zane Durant, I have great to hire the

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Speaker 3: most smaller one gap three technique type of defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Six foot one, two hundred ninety two pounds. Ran a

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Speaker 3: four to seven to one at the combine. He plays

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Speaker 3: doesn't have the side. So he's scheme limited. Six one,

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Speaker 3: two hundred and ninety two pounds doesn't He's not going

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Speaker 3: him in a form in front as a one gap

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Speaker 3: defensive tackle, as a three technique type. But I like

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Speaker 3: his game and he's been consistent. I mean, even though

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Speaker 3: Penn State had an off season last year, he has

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Speaker 3: been a consistent force for Penn State all the way through.

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Speaker 3: Chris McClellan is my next eye and I have a

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Speaker 3: third round grade on him. I haven't ready to hire

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Speaker 3: the most. I mean the tape, just this tape, just

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Speaker 3: three hundred and thirteen pounds. He's athletic, had a good

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Speaker 3: this point in time, plays like his hair's on fire.

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Speaker 3: He does do a good job holding the point. He

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Speaker 3: can rush to the passer gets behind the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 3: changes direction. A lot to like with Chris McClellan. I

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Speaker 3: think he's also got some scheme versatility warmn front. You

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Speaker 2: off this this group you've already hit Zan Durant. You know,

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Speaker 2: and you see the bursten in the Avlentiss of Tony,

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Speaker 2: but you just don't see enough win one on one

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Speaker 1: I had that in front of me. He measured in

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Speaker 3: He can, but I just didn't see him consistently cause

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Speaker 2: So Tony has separated this from defensive ends, and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean six two and a half two hundred

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Speaker 3: You talk about Keldrick ruin Bain's measurements, I think Cassius Howell,

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Speaker 3: Indicate not only that is WHEN i interviewed him at

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Speaker 3: when you watch the, film you see the. Athleticism you

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Speaker 3: great pass. Rusher interesting thing About Gabe jackets he did

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Speaker 2: Me, tony but he looks like a good athlete on.

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Speaker 3: mean he does not move like a, stiff stiff defensive.

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Speaker 3: Alignment he can get out, laterally he can drop in,

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Speaker 3: SIDES i mean sixty three and a half two. Sixty

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Speaker 3: can you stick him on the inside of defensive? Tackle

430
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 3: can you do? Both he's a real good football, Player

431
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 3: he's just not a great. Athlete and then finally the

432
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,159
Speaker 3: top tens rounded out by Ar Mason thomas sixty two

433
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 3: and a half two hundred and fifty one, pounds, again

434
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 3: a guy you probably could use him an outside linebacker

435
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 3: because he did stand up over tackle a lot Of.

436
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 3: Oklahoma but he's a real good d, drush a guy

437
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 3: who is just you, know intense every single play rushing

438
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 3: the passer against the. Run what's missing From Dennis Danny sutton's,

439
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 3: game what's missing From Kelda twalk's. Game you watch Our

440
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 3: Mason thomas and it's all there on every single step

441
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 3: has had some injury problems in the, past which may

442
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: raise some red. FLAGS i have him as a fourth round.

443
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 3: PROSPECT i could see him sneaking into the late part

444
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 3: of round.

445
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 1: Three, Yeah.

446
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 2: Tony, LOOK i think if you're looking for an edge

447
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 2: player and you're picking in the you, know top of

448
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 2: the second round, area there are just so many well

449
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: rounded players to pick. From more Messador zion Young. Yakis

450
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: these are guys that all do. Everything they can stop the,

451
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 2: run they could rush the, pass or they can set

452
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 2: up firm edge that you, know they might not be

453
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 2: superstars or have star, potential but they're just gonna be

454
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: really good football players for a long. TIME i think of,

455
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 2: like imagine like A Carl aafties type right that The

456
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 2: chiefs drafted a few years, ago that type of guy

457
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: that's gonna give you a little bit of everything and

458
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: then you, know to the next.

459
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: GROUP i Think i'm with. YOU i Have Danny.

460
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: Dennison as the top of the third end of the

461
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 2: second round type of. Guy he's a developmental. Guy his

462
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: testing was off the, charts but again he shows physicality

463
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: or he stops to run really well on. Tape So

464
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: i'm with. YOU i Think this is a strong. Group

465
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 2: if you're looking for a run stuffing defensive end or edge,

466
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: PLAYER i think there's a lot of guys.

467
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: Here you have a pass rusher like Cash Is.

468
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 2: Howell and now when we go to the edge group,

469
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: here we're gonna have even more guys that can get

470
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 2: after the quarterback and really rush the. Pass before we do,

471
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: that just to over remind everybody That draft season is

472
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473
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474
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Speaker 2: com And, tony let's start with the edge guys on

475
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 2: this group and we'll talk about the off ball inside

476
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: linebackers at a. Second but there's a number of guys

477
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 2: here that if you're looking for maybe more juice and

478
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: guys that you can on the get after the quarterback

479
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: a little.

480
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: Bit, more but maybe even have some run stopping. Ability

481
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: this is also a really nice. Group.

482
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean th is Rvro reeese an edg. Rusher

483
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 3: is he an off ball? Linebacker As i've said all,

484
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,719
Speaker 3: along he can do. BOTH i think he's an outstanding

485
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 3: off ball linebacker who can also rush the. Passer, now

486
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: he said he's an edge rusher at the combine because

487
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: that's where the money. Is but as far As i'm,

488
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: concerned our Real reese can do, it can do it.

489
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 3: All so whether you want to call him an edge,

490
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: rusher whether you want to call him an off ball,

491
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 3: linebacker as far As i'm, concerned he's just a terrific

492
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 3: three down defender that can be used in a variety of.

493
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: Roles third and, five you want him to rush the,

494
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 3: passer he can do it for. You third and, five

495
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 3: you want him to cover the tie, end you want

496
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: him play in, zone in pass coverage against running, backs

497
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: he can do it for. You you, know first and,

498
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: ten you want to send him up the field to

499
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: stack the, run he can do it for. You SO

500
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: i think that you Know. REESE i think it's unfair

501
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 3: to kind of pigeonhole him in sort of one one.

502
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: ASPECT i think he does everything very very. Well. Times

503
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: he was asked to rush the pass the last year

504
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: To Ohio, state he did a terrific job of. It

505
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: they just didn't need him the rest of passer because

506
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: they run a forman front and they had two guys

507
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: and can get A Jackson Katon curry coming up going

508
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: off the. Edge rea can have it For rea can

509
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: have it against. OPPONENTS i guess your top pure edge

510
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,239
Speaker 3: rushing outside linebacker would Be David, baily who you, know

511
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: we saw really elevate his game this year when he

512
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: moved From stanford To Texas. Tech got a little inside

513
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 3: On david daily from one of his former teammates who

514
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: told me That bailly is an incredibly detailed. Worker said,

515
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 3: that you, know he's the guy who even though you don't,

516
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: work even though you don't practice On, sundays he'll be

517
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: out there practicing On sundays after A saturday. Game well

518
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: that's the way he, was and you watch. That it

519
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: translates on film because he's not just a white edge.

520
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 3: Rusher he shows the ability to sneak an inside move

521
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: on bigger. Defenders he holds his, ground even going back

522
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: to A stanford days against offensive linemen that have you,

523
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: know eighty pounds on. Him very. ATHLETIC i like him

524
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: standing over tackle more THAN i do out of a

525
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: three point. STANCE i think his better plays last year

526
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: At Texas tech came standing over tackle as opposed to

527
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 3: coming out of a three point. Stance but, again you,

528
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: know he can play in space Like Arviell, reese but

529
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 3: he's a much better pass strusher Than Ourvielle reese as

530
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: we saw this. Year next that would BE. Tj parker From.

531
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: Clemson didn't have the year many of us expected or

532
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: thought he would, have as a lot of The clemson guys.

533
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: Didn't BUT i don't think it was because a lack of.

534
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: Effort six three and a half two hundred and sixty

535
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: three pound runs of four to six are the. Combine

536
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: those are good. Numbers he's two sixty three, now he

537
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 3: could probably get up towards a two hundred and seventy.

538
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: Pounds incredibly, athletic very explosive rushes the, edge plays with,

539
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: leverage uses his. Hands, well you, know just have to

540
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: find out what happened At clemson last year where the

541
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 3: production Wasn't there wasn't what was. Expected but a guy

542
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: THAT i think you can use standing over tackle or

543
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: out of a three point. Stance, next edge rusher outside

544
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: Linebacker Josh. Joseph so now we're getting into the middle

545
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 3: part of round. Two not as fast as some of

546
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: the other, guys not as explosive as some of the other,

547
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: guys but just a tenacious and intense pass rusher who

548
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: uses his hands, well you, know not a wide edge,

549
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: guy can also slice inside of, blocks can get it

550
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 3: out into, space and make plays on his own. Blitzes

551
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: not as effective as the other, guys which is why

552
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: he's more of a second round. Pick but, STILL i

553
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: mean the guy THAT i believe you can stand over

554
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: tackle and use him consistently as a pass. RUSHER i

555
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: do believe he's got the starting. Potential one of your,

556
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: Favorites Romelo, height who played on the other side Of

557
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: David bailey out of a three point stand standing over,

558
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: tackle a real good pass rusher who's got some. Athleticism

559
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 3: and then you Know Jay Shwan barum Of. MICHIGAN i

560
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: think he's more of Your Rville reefs type in the

561
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 3: sense that he's a complete three down. Player it goes

562
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: on a lot more of your traditional off ball linebackers

563
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: rather than your pass.

564
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: Rushers after, That, Yeah, tony, LOOK i Like Romelo height

565
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: more than. MOST i have kind of an, end you,

566
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: know top of the second, round almost end of the first.

567
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Round great on. Him you.

568
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: Know the thing that really impressed me about, him you,

569
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: know AND i talked to him at The Senior. Bowl

570
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: he really wanted to show people that he could hold

571
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: up against the. Run he's a smaller. Guy he's only

572
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: two hundred thirty pounds and he's what six,' FOUR so

573
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: i think there were, questions about, you know six two and,

574
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: a half WHETHER or i could hold up against. A

575
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: run i thought he was really good setting a pretty

576
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: firm edge At The. Senior BOWL so i think he

577
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: has more JUICE than, i think probably than a lot

578
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: of the other guys in, this class just in terms

579
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: of ability to get on the edge. And bend he

580
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: reminds Me Of nick benito a little bit from a

581
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: couple of. Years AGO so i like height more. THAN

582
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: most i liked his ATTITUDE when i talked. To him

583
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 2: so we'll see what he can do in terms of

584
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: developing that. Skill set here's one GUY that i did

585
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: not see on your defensive End Or, edgeless Tony and

586
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: i'm curious where you? Have him How About. MALACHI lawrence

587
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: i do not see him on. Either list where would

588
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: you put him on in? Your groupings and where would

589
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: you where do you think he's.

590
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Going to go off? The board who?

591
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: Is that, I'm Sorry?

592
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: Malachi lawrence.

593
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: Uh you know the Thing what lawrence is this and

594
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: we saw him at. The shrineball his testing was is off,

595
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: the charts but the testing doesn't match the play on.

596
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: THE field i think could he go third round because

597
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: of the heightweight, speed factor. HE could i have him

598
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: more as, a fourth fifth round type type. Of player,

599
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 3: you know this is a real good edge. DRESHING year

600
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: i had to take Into the you got to take

601
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 3: into the into account the fact that you know he

602
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: was Good At, central florida he just. Wasn't dominant, in

603
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: fact the, Other kid kelly was probably even a. Better

604
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: player kelly was a better Player At. Central florida it's

605
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 3: Just that lawrence just blew up the combine like no.

606
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: One expected. You want you Talked About Dennis dandy sutton

607
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: being a. DEVELOPMENTAL player I think lawrence is really your.

608
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: Developmental player and we. Interviewed him he seemed like a really,

609
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: good guy, very articulate, intelligent, guy grounded, you know easy to.

610
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: Root for just think he's got to really learn to

611
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 3: translate that athleticism into production on the. Football.

612
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: FIELD yeah I Think max Llewellyn from iowa be in that,

613
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: group too right where he like moves around well and

614
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: you know it depends on where teams decide they want to.

615
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: Pick him the Thing.

616
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: With llewellen is is he. Getting tech llewellyn came Into

617
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: the combine or into the season known as a great

618
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: athlete and a guy who, you know was. Very explosive

619
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: and we saw some of that explosion excuse me at the,

620
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 3: senior ball but his testing was not good At. The

621
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: combine let me pull it up here. REAL quick i

622
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: mean four eight one at two hundred and fifty eight

623
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: pounds six five and. A half now he plays fashion

624
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: that he's more explosive, than that but the production. WASN'T

625
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: there i mean it was hit and miss with. The

626
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: production then he doesn't test all, that well which IS

627
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: why I pushed.

628
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: Llewellen, down yeah he's a little LIGHTER than i thought

629
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: he would. BE too i thought he would be closer

630
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: to two seventy than the two. Fifty Five so i'm

631
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: with you.

632
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: ON that i.

633
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: Don't disagree, all right let's jump over to the off ball,

634
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: Linebackers here tony and obviously this is gonna Start with

635
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: sonny styles and then we'll see where we are.

636
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: From, THERE yeah, i.

637
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: Mean it's an incredible group it's a great it's an.

638
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: Outstanding group but if if people valued off ball, linebackers

639
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: more whether it, be teams whether it be in, the

640
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: media this would be considered a strong. DRAFT craft I

641
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: Mean sunny styles we talk about had a. Terrific season

642
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 3: we talked about him during the season on. This podcast

643
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: blew up, the combine ran faster than what. Was expected,

644
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: you know a former safety who tested like a safety

645
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: at two hundred and forty. Five pounds it's outstanding and

646
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: coverage great, in pursuit covers a lot of area on.

647
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: The field, you know can also blitz, the passer although

648
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: they didn't need. Him to he didn't need to use

649
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: him in that vein you can't use them at the.

650
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: NEXT level i am really good size at six, foot

651
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: five two hundred and forty, Four pounds so, you know

652
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: comes out of comes out of the season grated higher than.

653
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: People thought comes out of the combine graded even higher

654
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: after that. OUTSTANDING performance I. Like, CJ allen i Like

655
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: those georgia off. Ball linebackers, he's fast, he's explosive he

656
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: covers a lot. Of area not much of, a blitzer

657
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: but they didn't ask him. The blitz they didn't need him,

658
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: the blitz but you want a guy to play in

659
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: coverage against, tight ends against running backs to pursue. THE

660
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: run I. Like. CJ allen I. Think cj allen is

661
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: my Version Of romelo height, for you, you know the way

662
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: You Think romelo height is gonna go much earlier than.

663
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: PEOPLE expect i ALSO. Think cj allen could go much earlier.

664
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: Than Expected Anthony, hill junior who a lot of people

665
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: say didn't have a. Great year there was a lot,

666
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: of inefficiency a lot. Of missteps goes to, the combine six,

667
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: foot two two hundred and thirty, eight pounds runs of

668
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: four or five. To one he's. Incredibly intense he has

669
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: a body. Of work it wasn't just one Year With.

670
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: Anthony hill you got to go back and look. Even

671
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: Further deontay lawson probably didn't test as well as people

672
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: thought that the should have At, the combine but he's

673
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: still a terrific off. BALL linebacker i have him as

674
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: an early second. Round Pick, jacob rodriguez who, you know

675
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: one of the best defenders in. College football, you know

676
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: was the master of that punch fumble dislodging the ball.

677
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: From opponents wasn't great, in coverage wasn't bad At The.

678
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: SENIOR ball a lot of people came out Of the combine.

679
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: LIKING him i have him a second. ROUND pick I

680
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: mentioned barron Before, from MICHIGAN who i have great higher,

681
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: the most and then the list. Goes On jake Galladay,

682
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: of cincinnati whose pro day is. Next week great instincts

683
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: constantly in the position to make. Proper Plays josiah trotter

684
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: six thirty pounds Out of missouri obviously has the great

685
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: blood lines his Dad With, jeremiah trotter who watched the Film.

686
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: Of missouri he plays more like a two hundred and

687
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: twenty pound linebacker than he does a two hundred and

688
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: thirty seven, pound linebacker the way with the agility and

689
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: the amount of area he covers on the field going sideline.

690
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: To Sideline Harold perkins junior one of my. Favorite guys

691
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: he's got some. Size Limitations kyle lewis another guy with

692
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: size limitations but plays. Big football we saw At The.

693
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: Senior ball these are all third. Round grades Caleb elarms

694
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: or tested off the charts At, the combine which matches

695
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: his film because he came into, the season, you know

696
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: graded as a late. Round pick he played like a

697
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: mid round pick through, the season and then he showed

698
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: the athleticism at the combine six thirty four pounds ran

699
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: a four to four. To seven and then even in the,

700
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: Fourth round Tory and York OF texas A and m

701
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: a real good, football player but he's only five to

702
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: ten and. A Half, AIDEN fisher i mean we just

703
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: saw him a guy who plays over his head over.

704
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: At cheese terrific, pass rusher good against, the run good

705
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: against Coverage, from indiana helping them that team win the.

706
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: National Title justin jefferson Out, of ALABAMA who i think

707
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: is overrated because of all that other talent. Around Him,

708
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: jimmy rolder fourth round prospect Out. Of michigan just a.

709
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: TERRIFIC year, i mean we're deep into the fourth Round

710
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: and i'm looking at Guys Like, Aiden Fisher, Justin jefferson

711
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: Torrey and york who could contribute early IN their nfl

712
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: careers once.

713
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: They're, drafted yeah you have even mentioned a Guy Like

714
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: bryce betcher Out. OF oregon i think it's gonna be a.

715
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: GOOD player I Like owen heinike Out. OF oklahoma i

716
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a.

717
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Good player.

718
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: Smaller guy, but yeah it's a Great. Class TONY and

719
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: i think the second linebacker off the board is gonna

720
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: be interesting to ME because i think everyone's assumes it's GONNA.

721
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: Be.

722
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: CJ allen i don't think there's a whole Lot separating

723
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Allen And. Anthony hill to be honest, With you i'm

724
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: curious to. See if i'm curious to see if for

725
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: some teams they Might like hill a little bit better

726
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: than just there's more plays. On tape, to me if You, watch,

727
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: hill like there's more impact plays that he made in

728
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: games during. The year he's a, little HEAVIER so i.

729
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: DON'T know i would not be Shocked if hill Goes.

730
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Before allen i'm cure as the see and what that

731
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: decision making process is like.

732
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: For teams and.

733
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: He'll ran well at. The combine allen hasn't. Run yet

734
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: its pro day is. This week he'll be running in

735
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: a couple. Of days, but again you know you're right About,

736
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: Uh HILL but I think texas used him more in a.

737
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: Playmaking role where We, watch allen he's basically, very disciplined,

738
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: you know staying with, his assignments staying with what he

739
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: has to do. IN space a few times they used

740
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: him up, the field he. WAS successful i would agree.

741
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 3: WITH you, I mean i have those. Two, Guys Obviously

742
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: sonny styles is way ahead, AFTER those i have those

743
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: two guys neck. And next then there's a drop off

744
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: To The deontay lawson's And The. Jacob rodriguezz then another

745
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 3: drop off To The jay swamp barrooms And The jake

746
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: holidays and The Jo josiah tryer could be the wild

747
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: card at.

748
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: This, Position yeah i'm with you one. Hundred percent don't.

749
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: Forget Folks that draft season is Presented, by moody's a

750
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,680
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751
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,759
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752
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,600
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753
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: COM tony I apologize i sing a little, distracted there

754
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 2: but we've had a big trade and Then The National

755
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: football league while we've been. Recording, This Now mammi dolphins

756
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: Have Trade jalen wattle to the take A.

757
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: Guess Ah, Cleveland Browns.

758
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: Denver broncos okay For the, broncos' first third and fourth,

759
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: round picks and they are sending their own third round

760
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: pick Back. To denver so it, turns out let me

761
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: get the exact, picks here JUST so i have. Them

762
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: Right so Denver receives Waddle and, i'm Sorry the dolphins fourth,

763
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 2: round pick eleventh in. The round denver sends their first,

764
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: round pick their third, round pick and their fourth. Round

765
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: Pick so denver moves up in the fourth round by,

766
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: nineteen picks but they send their first and their third

767
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: To the Dolphins For.

768
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: JALEN wattle i think.

769
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: It's an excellent Pick. FOR denver, I mean denver needs

770
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: a receiver that can take the top off. The defense

771
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: they're not gonna. Get that, you Know maybe casey concepts,

772
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 3: you own if he lasts that late in The brose,

773
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: old maybe but they're not going to get that type

774
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: of receiver in the first round except for conception and

775
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: and You. Know waddle you know what you're getting, With

776
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: THEM and i think, you know this is, a Team The,

777
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: denver broncos that basically needs a Player Like jalen wattle

778
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: to put them over. The top, so yeah you're. Gonna

779
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: sacrifice you're basically giving away a third, round pick is what,

780
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: you're doing because You're basically waddle's the first round pick

781
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: was an early first, round selection and you're giving away

782
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: a third round pick. This year in, MY opinion i

783
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: Understand why miami. Does It i'm. Miami did miami is in.

784
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: Rebuild lode they want to build Up that. Arsenal picks

785
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: they need to have a lot. Of holes but at

786
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: face value, around PAPER would i Like what.

787
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 2: Denver, DID yeah i like the trade for. Both teams

788
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: to be honest, WITH you i think it makes sense for.

789
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: Both teams i'm. With you the thirtieth pick in, this

790
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: draft it's a Trade For, jalen, wata who by, the

791
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: way he has already, gotten paid so that signing bonus

792
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: is not going to Be with denver that got Paid by.

793
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: Miami already, So yeah i'm. WITH you i think a

794
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: good move for. Both teams here is there in very.

795
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: Different places and, You Know sean payne's never shy about

796
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: trying to go. For it tony go back To the

797
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: saints like he's. Not patient, he wants he wants what he,

798
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: wants now and he's gonna go out and he's gonna.

799
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Get it they were quiet in free agency and now

800
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: we see the, big mood big move in the. Trade market,

801
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: all right we got two more, Businis. Here tony let's

802
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: turn up the pace. A. Bit cornerback we've been saying

803
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: for a while we did not love the. Cornerback Class

804
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: as i've watched, more guys that's grown on me a.

805
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: LITTLE bit i gotta be honest. With you you have, let's, say, four, five, six, seven,

806
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: eight nine ten eleven guys as day. Two pick so

807
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: a pretty nice class in the first two days of.

808
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: The draft it's. Not BAD but i.

809
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: Don't see a lot of number one cb. ONES here

810
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: i don't see a lot of number, one cornerbacks, You Know,

811
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: MONSIEUR delaine i believe will be the first. Cornerback selected,

812
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: terrific year, he said a terrific. College career people are

813
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 3: gonna focus on twenty. Twenty five he was Good At. Virginia,

814
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 3: tech yeah a shut down guy doesn't have. Great size

815
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: he's under six. Foot tall let's wait and see what.

816
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: He runs but as you know we've, talked about you

817
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: can use him, a man you can use him, a

818
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: press you can use them a zone backed off the line.

819
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: Of scrimmage even if he doesn't run foot fast, forty

820
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: fast he gets it between the ears, you know he,

821
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: sees it he. DIAGNOSES it, i mean he's one of

822
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 3: the FEW guys i think that could develop into a number.

823
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: One cornerback Ditto for, jermad McCoy who didn't take a

824
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: snap this year because of, that injury the knee Injury

825
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 3: from january of twenty. Twenty five but you go back

826
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: and watch a twenty twenty. FOUR film, i mean he

827
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: was a guy that not only big at six foot

828
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: one hundred and, ninety pounds not only guy that, can

829
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: cover but someone who makes plays with his back to,

830
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: the ball gets his head back around attracks the pass in,

831
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: the air which, is very. Very Important, avion TERRELL who

832
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: i think at five to ten and a half was

833
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: probably a little bit bigger than many of us expected

834
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty. Six pounds as FAR as, i

835
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: know he still. HASN'T run i don't think he ran

836
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: It that CLEMSON prode i didn't see a time. For

837
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: him another guy Who liked, jermad McCoy not, as tall

838
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: but does a good job making plays with his back to,

839
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: the ball gets his head, back around tracks the passing,

840
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: the year doesn't do a lot of. Face Guarding, colton

841
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 3: HOOD who i think has got. Great Upside colton hood

842
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: out of became the number one Cornerback of tennessee this

843
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 3: Year with jamad McCoy didn't play because of a. Knee injury, well,

844
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: rounded game tested incredibly well At. The combine his, position

845
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: DRILLS where i thought were terrific at. The combine shows

846
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: a lot of flashes and ability to shut. Down opponents

847
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: he's got a lot. Of upside he's not. There Yet,

848
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: chris johnson, the tall linear corner with good Athleticism From San.

849
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: DIEGO state i know you like him. A lot i

850
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: watched him, this week this week earlier. On film not just,

851
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: the physicality not just the, physical skills but you can

852
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: see he gets. It mentally he diagnoses. Plays well he

853
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: doesn't have. Mental lapses he's got. Excellent Size D'Angelo pond's

854
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: probably everybody's, favorite cornerback but five eight and, a half

855
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: which is gonna limit him to a nickelback at the.

856
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: Next level even though he stepped up and played big

857
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: football Against The jeremiah smith Against the carnel takes you

858
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: Know through indiana's run into the. National title he'll.

859
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: Tell me the funny thing, with him he didn't play Nickel.

860
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: At indiana he was then.

861
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: Outside corner, he was, he WAS but, i mean you're.

862
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: Gonna stick you're gonna stick a guy that's five eight

863
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: and a half at your outside corner IN. THE nfl

864
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: i mean he, plays big but eventually those six two

865
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: six three wide receivers is just gonna. Overmatch him, He goes,

866
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: they goes they're gonna put the ball in, the air

867
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: and they're gonna Go over ponds and, you know and

868
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: snatch the ball of. The air if if he's four

869
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: riches tall or, D'Angelo ponds he's a top, Ten pick

870
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: there's no doubt. About it but, you know the sizes

871
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: of limiting. Fan Factor Brandon cees Sesse Of south carolina

872
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: probably should have downgraded him a. Little bit he is

873
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: running today the day that we are tight we are taping.

874
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: This podcast he's a. Big guy he's a. PHYSICAL guy

875
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: i think he's more athlete than cornerback at this point.

876
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: In time he does a good job physically defeating upon

877
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: to separate the ball. From him he's got to really

878
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: refine his. Ball Skills, keyante Scott who i'm told may

879
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: have it an issue with, his wrist but we saw

880
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: a great play from him last Year. At miami more of,

881
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 3: a face the action type. Of guy really wasn't used

882
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: to man coverage all that much. Last year is he?

883
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: A corner is? He safety he's a real good. Defensive Back,

884
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: jalen kilgore who was branded, cecis teammate who was used

885
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: as a Nickelback At. South carolina some teams have him

886
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: listed as. A safety, I Say, antili prus he can't.

887
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: Play Cornerback leave hi. At cornerback six and a half,

888
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: ten pounds ran four fourth combine and he is a

889
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: guy that's got excellent. Ball skills those ball SKILLS that

890
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 3: I think cc needs. To develop You Watch jalen kilgore

891
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: and he. Has.

892
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: Them yeah and then he got two other guys in

893
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: the third, Round too Tony and keith had They And Malik, muhammad.

894
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know night. And Day milik muhammad's the, bigger guy.

895
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: PHYSICAL guy i actually got to interview him yesterday, AND

896
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: wow i mean an. IMPRESSIVE interview i asked him to

897
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: Break down casey concepts you owned. For me he Went

898
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: from casey concepts he owns height, and weight to what he,

899
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: does good to what you have to watch out for

900
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: to where you can. EXPLOIT him i asked him about.

901
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: OLD teammates i asked him about getting ready that first

902
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: game of the Year Against, ohio state and, he said,

903
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: he goes. He. GOES yeah i realized this is going

904
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: to BE an. Nfl matchup there could be a lot.

905
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: Online here as far AS the, nfl drafted it's concerned

906
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: the Think What malik. Mohammad is when we were At

907
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 3: the Senior, bow scouts we're talking about him maybe running

908
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 3: a four to six in. The forty at, the combine

909
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: he ran a four to four to TWO and i

910
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: was shocked because he's a track and. Field guy he

911
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: ran sprints around one, hundred meters, he ran he did the,

912
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 3: long JUMP and i didn't understand where people were getting

913
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: four to six. IS from i think it's more of,

914
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: the system very impressive. With Leak mohammad, abney's okay more

915
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: of an off backed off his own type. Of corner still.

916
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: Hasn't Run julian neil six and a half three Pounds

917
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: from arkansas ran under four. OR five i think he's

918
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: got a lot of upside like. His Game will lee's.

919
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: ANOTHER guy i mean six one and a half one

920
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty. Nine pounds the good Tape AT texas

921
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 3: A and M, with willie he looks like a top forty.

922
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: Five pick he does have. Some lapses there's not a

923
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: lot of. Consistency there but if you can build off

924
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: of the good Film from willy and develop his game,

925
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: from there you could have a starting Quarterback on sunday

926
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: and then one of your. Favorite Guys chandler rivers out of,

927
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: a duke more of. A nickelback five nine and, a

928
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: half good, cover guy ran much faster than expected to

929
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: combine at four to. FOUR zero i also think he.

930
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: Plays, Physical tony i'm surprised you have him. SO low

931
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: i have him more of a top of the third

932
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: round type. OF guy i think he's just really good.

933
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: IN coverage i think, he IS but i think he's

934
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: more of, a NICKELBACK which i tikled for grade, those

935
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: GUYS which i probably shouldn't because most teams start, three

936
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: cornerbacks have a nickelback as a starting Position on Sunday.

937
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: And tony.

938
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 2: IT'S funny i think you know you mentioned a couple

939
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: of these. Guys already there are some of these like bigger,

940
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: slots now and this is WHERE the nfl is going

941
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: to where they're not playing man. A lot i'm not

942
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: sure if they're, A corner i'm not sure if there

943
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: Are Safety ken'ty scott's one of. Those Guys jayalen kilgore

944
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: is one of. Those guys i'll even throw trade and stukes.

945
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: In there guy you have listed as. A safety where

946
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: they play, the slot, They're bigger i'm not sure they're

947
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: twitching enough to cover one on one some of, the faster,

948
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: you know slot. Wide receivers i'm not in trouble figuring

949
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: out what to do with that kind of weird group.

950
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: Of, GUYS well i think that's also the result of,

951
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: you know you think of slot a slot, wide out

952
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: you think a guy that's five nine and a half.

953
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: Really fast but you know they put. Bigger receiver they

954
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: do put six two six three receivers in, the slot

955
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: and you can't cover a six two sixty three receiver

956
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: with a five to, nine.

957
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Cornerback, No total i'm with you.

958
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: On that.

959
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: All right let's go to safety here our, Final, position

960
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: tony and you have one first. ROUND player i have

961
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: more than one on, my list But Obviously caleb downs is.

962
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Number one then you can go through the rest of.

963
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: Your, GUYS yeah i mean not a strong. Group overall

964
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: calebw obviously top of the top of the draft type.

965
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: Of guy i'm listening to the Criticisms Of caleb, downs,

966
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: now well, you know he really just a too, deep

967
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: guy wasn't. Very ATHLETIC and i think the result is

968
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: these are people who just watched twenty. Twenty five you

969
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: got to go back and watch twenty, twenty four when

970
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: he was in a, different scheme when he was asked to,

971
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: do more when he was consistently making plays on. The football,

972
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: this year he was more of a discipline keep the

973
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: action in front, of you let the linebackers make, the plays,

974
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: you know let the play come. To you and when

975
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: he did and when, that happened he did a. Good

976
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: job so it's to me it's kind of amusing watching

977
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: the people complain of Holes in caleb, downs GAME which

978
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: i don't believe. Are there it's just that they haven't

979
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: taken the time to go back And Watch caleb downs

980
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 3: his first, two years First at alabama and then twenty

981
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: twenty Four At, ohio state when he was probably one

982
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: of the best players on that defense that won a,

983
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: national Championship and tony by.

984
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: The way he was also tremendous at the line. Of scrimmage,

985
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: this year he was at the line of scrimmage. A

986
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: lot he was we might have been better run stopping

987
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: the run than both those all prow or Whatever all

988
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: american linebackers in. Recent Styles caleb downs was in the

989
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: backfield constantly making plays on. Ball carriers his run defense, was,

990
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: phenomenal right and then you.

991
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 3: Look at the past defense from a year ago where

992
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: he was making Play Because ohio state the corners were

993
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: not as consistent and he had to make a lot

994
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: of plays and. He Did, DYLAN thieneman, i mean a

995
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: lot of people are gonna have him great as a first.

996
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: Round prospect he could go in the. FIRST round i

997
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: have him as an early second. Round guy ram much faster,

998
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: than expected, YOU know i know he, tested well but

999
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: to me, on film he just doesn't show that, great

1000
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: range that fluid motion in center FIELD that i really

1001
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: want in a. Free safety obviously, upsides there the size,

1002
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: is there the great Speed and Manuel McNeil warren give.

1003
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: HIM credit, i mean he's the GUY who i basically

1004
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: battered throughout the process and he shut me up at

1005
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: the Combine ran fastard and it was expected four or

1006
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: five two when people were thinking. FOUR six i thought

1007
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: he looked really good in drills at. THE combine i

1008
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: think when you Watch the, Toledo film who's basically used

1009
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: downhill shows the ability to be used. In Reverse genesis

1010
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 3: smith is gonna run later this week, six two two hundred.

1011
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: TWO pounds a favorite. OF mine i think he can

1012
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: be a true. Center fielder let's see what he. Tests athletically,

1013
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: You know.

1014
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: Jolo's tackling a little Bit With. Genesis smith that's like his.

1015
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: Big issue he missed a lot of tackles. Last year a.

1016
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: Little bit of. Stiffness there you Mentioned. TRADON stukes I

1017
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: mean i had him. AT cornerback i talked, TO people

1018
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: i moved him. To safety he's a. Terrific player he's an.

1019
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: Outstanding athlete four three to three at one hundred and,

1020
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: ninety pounds. VERY explosive i have him as a third.

1021
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: Round pick he could go in the second round FROM

1022
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: people i, talked to a lot of upside there and

1023
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: a lot. OF versatility i mean you mentioned is he

1024
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: a corner is he? A safety, you know so it's

1025
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: sort of a situation where he can be used. AT both,

1026
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: i mean he can be used as a nickel safety

1027
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: in coverage over the, slot receiver and he's going to

1028
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: do a good job, for you sort of sort of

1029
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: Like the lake kid out In the ram With, the rams,

1030
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: you know came in As A carl lake came in as,

1031
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 3: a safety but he plays a lot of, you. Know

1032
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: Nickelback Robert, spears jennings who in my opinion is. VERY

1033
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: underrated I Have spears jennings as a third fourth. ROUND

1034
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: pick i think he's gonna be a real good safety

1035
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 3: a year or two down. The road sixty. Five pounds

1036
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: you see the speed, on film you see the violence,

1037
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: on film, the force and then even you KNOW Guys

1038
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: aj halsey, after that more of a straight line downhill

1039
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: defend a two hundred and fifteen pounds who can also

1040
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: cover between. The Numbers bud clark who was really good

1041
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: at the, senior ball who was really good at, the

1042
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: combine had his moments on FILM at tcu. Last year

1043
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: the other fourth, ROUND. Guy vj payne who Tested From,

1044
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: kansas state who tested much better, than expected, great size

1045
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 3: six three and, a half two hundred and. Six pounds

1046
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: are you gonna use him as a did you trust

1047
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: him as a true free safety or is he a too.

1048
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: Deep zone if you don't trust him as a two.

1049
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: Deep safety as a traditional, free safety you're kind of

1050
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: limiting the type of schemes which would push down his.

1051
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: Draft, stock yeah look at The you wheatley as a fifth.

1052
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: Round pick some people have him as like a second.

1053
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: ROUND there i watched. THAT tape i didn't. See it

1054
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: i'm With The ivan moore as like a like an

1055
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: average type, of starter maybe a little slightly below average

1056
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: special team.

1057
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: OR type i Have ag halsey in the. Second.

1058
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: ROUND tony i think he's. Really good he doesn't make

1059
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: mistakes in. The secondary he's a bigger safetyes two hundred and.

1060
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: Fifteen pounds he makes. EVERY tackle i think he triggers.

1061
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: Really FAST and i Also Like bud clark. A lot i'm,

1062
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: WITH you i think he makes a lot of plays on.

1063
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: The football those are TWO guys i like a little

1064
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: bit more than. YOU do i have them both a

1065
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: Head of genesis fifth on. My list but, YOU know

1066
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: i think if you need a, safety here maybe there's

1067
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: not a ton. Of guys but if YOU and i

1068
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 2: love fedom, and man, YOU know i love the fact

1069
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: that much like you talked that, with, Downs right if

1070
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: you go back To his, purdue tape it's a lot

1071
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: of single high safety stuff where he's, ranging sideline. The

1072
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: sideline then he Goes, to oregon, all right he's close

1073
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: to the line. Of scrimmage now he's doing stuff in.

1074
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: The SLOT so i think he's kind of shown everything.

1075
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: He's able he's shown that he can do everything you

1076
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: need a safety, to do and throw on top, of

1077
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: that the great testing he did poke into the first round.

1078
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: FOR me i can you know the Think with halsey

1079
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: is this is he a true centup field or is

1080
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: he just senilarly a, two deep, you know straight line

1081
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: between the numbers. TYPE guy i don't see the QUESTION

1082
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: range i agree with what. You said he's a. Vicious

1083
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: hitter he separates the ball from. The punts he does

1084
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: a great job when the passes in. His vicinity but

1085
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: you know what do? YOU like i like those rangey

1086
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 3: free safety guys that can go sideline to sideline white

1087
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: Downs Like. Treydon, STUKES no.

1088
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: I think, That's. Fair tony it's a. Defensive draft that's

1089
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: why we went so long on. This one it's a

1090
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: lot of good. Defensive players if you need a. Defensive player, you,

1091
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: know again maybe we don't have as many blue chip and,

1092
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: you know top ten level guys that we have, every

1093
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: year but there's a lot of good defensive players are

1094
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 2: gonna Get on day two of. This draft, so teams

1095
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: if they, need defense they're gonna be in pretty good shape.

1096
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: Day two even in the. FOURTH round, i mean we

1097
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 3: talked About Our. Mason thomas where does? HE go i

1098
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: didn't even Mention How albert Regis FROM texas A. And m,

1099
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: you know the off. Ball linebackers you've got Guys like Harry,

1100
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: And York, Aiden Fisher justin jefferson who are gonna go

1101
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: in the. Fourth round, You Know julian Neil, Of Arkansas

1102
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: will Lee OF texas A. And m they could fall

1103
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: into the. Fourth round and we, just mentioned, you know

1104
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: potential fourth round safeties who maybe they're not your your number,

1105
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: two guys but you know in situational packages they can

1106
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: see playing Time on sunday starting with their.

1107
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: Rookie Seasons Marky's hollywood brown To. The eagles tony on

1108
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: a one. Year contract so another move. Is freight and by,

1109
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: the way this is, why folks you might want why

1110
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: aren't you doing your team needs in. Mock, drafts well

1111
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: if we were doing our team needs in mock, drafts

1112
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: today it would have all Changed Because jaylen wonnell got

1113
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: traded From the dolphins To. The broncos so this we

1114
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: wanted to give it a couple of weeks and next

1115
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: week we will update our team needs in the form

1116
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: of a. Mock draft we try to do one mock draft,

1117
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: every month so it'll Be our march mock and then

1118
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: we'll have one right before the draft at the End.

1119
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: Of April, tony eddie what do you have coming up

1120
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: on essentially sports that people should keep their.

1121
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: Eyes, on well, you know it's funny you, say that

1122
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: BECAUSE what i DID was i looked at the top

1123
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: five teams in my opinion coming out of the first

1124
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: week of, free agency whose draft plans or draft direction

1125
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: in the early rounds are going to be changed complete

1126
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: course because of their free, agent science Like, the chiefs

1127
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: a Couple the chiefs And. THE saints i mean everybody

1128
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: Had The jeremiah love, you know peg to Either the

1129
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: saints Or. The chiefs obviously that's out, the windows SO

1130
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: that i think will be INTERESTING read i give some

1131
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: options where those teams may go FROM what i think

1132
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: and Also what. I've.

1133
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: Heard awesome check, That. Out tony. Always fun enjoy your.

1134
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: Red storm heading Into the. Enstable tournam my friend will

1135
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: have two rounds done by the time the next time.

1136
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 3: We speak hopefully next time, we speak they'll be getting

1137
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: ready For the. Sweet.

1138
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: Sixteen Hopefully That's tony Pauline From. Essentially Sports I'm. John

1139
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: schmelk thank you for joining Us On draft season Presented,

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1141
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,680
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1142
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,360
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1143
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: you'll keep getting better. Until then, enjoy, it everybody