Speaker 1: Carala, She's the Queen of talking. He was, She's on
Speaker 1: the actually got the scoop on side. No one can
Speaker 1: do wi Caralam, Caralam, No one can do with Caral. Carol,
Speaker 1: you guys, I am so, so, so excited about this interview.
Speaker 1: It was just one of the most soulful conversations I've
Speaker 1: ever had with Leah Turner. She's a freaking superstar. Her
Speaker 1: voices out of this world, huge voice of things that
Speaker 1: have happened to her, the divine steps that God has
Speaker 1: laid out for her. Not to get all like hippy
Speaker 1: to being like God and all that, but seriously like
Speaker 1: she is such a testament to her faith and is
Speaker 1: following her heart, believing in herself. And her dad said,
Speaker 1: the best thing when someone tells you know, you flip
Speaker 1: it around and you turn it to on, and that
Speaker 1: means game on. This is going to happen. And that
Speaker 1: is Leah's fighting spirit. She said, such a journey here,
Speaker 1: she has her stories, amazing. Get excited, Leah Turner in
Speaker 1: the hissing, I'm so excited to be here. I am
Speaker 1: so excited to be here in your amazing house that
Speaker 1: your dad made everything. Yeah, my dad owned and number
Speaker 1: one furniture business like in the world. So he did, like,
Speaker 1: what's it called. What's it called, Mueler Turner Company, Mueller, Mueller,
Speaker 1: Mueller who Okay, Mueller Turner Company. And it's in California,
Speaker 1: in like Yuca Valley area, and he did, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know that. Quincy Jones's home, uh Selein Dion's home
Speaker 1: in Vegas is my favorite of all times. She's my
Speaker 1: number one. Her and Michael Bolton has literally gotten me
Speaker 1: through so much sitting in the car like repeat, legit,
Speaker 1: judge me like this. Yes, I'm telling you, I die fersonally.
Speaker 1: And then we need to know her. They met her,
Speaker 1: but like didn't like I mean, you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: working there, you know what I mean? Building house looks
Speaker 1: like he did this really cool like, um, there's a
Speaker 1: like you know, you have like a thing like this
Speaker 1: at the bottom of your bed, like I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's called, like a wooden like a thing, wouldn't
Speaker 1: thing like a thing? And then you push a button
Speaker 1: and the TV pops up. I would have it right
Speaker 1: in front of your bed. It's like far out. It's
Speaker 1: really fancy, a fancy oh my gosh. Okay, So Muler
Speaker 1: Turner company. Everyone. If you need furniture, do they ship?
Speaker 1: What's all custom? Okay, So if you live in l
Speaker 1: A and you want awesome furniture there, you're they yell people,
Speaker 1: they yelp people, they yell people. I'm like, I'm taking
Speaker 1: my beanie. Excuse me, an operator. Okay, So we got
Speaker 1: to talk about you because something I love most about
Speaker 1: you is your belief system. And I personally want to
Speaker 1: know how you got to this because you've had a
Speaker 1: wild journey started to from the beginning. First off, you
Speaker 1: have a huge voice, like you have this monster voice.
Speaker 1: You're a total bombshell. You have incredible breast. Sorry, You're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, and like you know, I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to hug you everywhere. I'm just saying to me, like
Speaker 1: you got the full package going on here, and you've
Speaker 1: got a killer personality. So how did you come into
Speaker 1: this journey from l A? And you have that? You
Speaker 1: could have gone probably rock if you wanted to, but
Speaker 1: you got a country. So just start at the beginning.
Speaker 1: Where did we're now this all come for gosh? I
Speaker 1: mean from the beginning, beginning or just what I've always
Speaker 1: been singing since I can ever ever remember since I
Speaker 1: was you know, I wrote my first song when I
Speaker 1: was six years old coming home from church. Um, you
Speaker 1: just got inspired to sing? Yeah, well, my best friend
Speaker 1: was leaving and so I just wrote this song. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if I can remember it, but it
Speaker 1: was something like friends or friends forever, like just like
Speaker 1: Mama said, And it was something about like Jesus binds
Speaker 1: our hearts together. We're together and I love you, don't leave.
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah she moved, but we're still very close.
Speaker 1: But um, so I've always always, always been singing since
Speaker 1: I can remember, and guitar lessons and piano lessons and
Speaker 1: voice lessons and you name it. If it had anything
Speaker 1: to do with music, you're doing it. I was in it.
Speaker 1: My mom just really encouraged and pushed me in it.
Speaker 1: So cut to going to college, went Stanta Barbara and
Speaker 1: all my classes started taking songwriting classes, and then a
Speaker 1: guy in the songwriting class, the final was whatever song
Speaker 1: got picked, I would sing in front of a celebrity guest.
Speaker 1: And that celebrity guest was Kenny Loggins. Yeah, because he
Speaker 1: has a home in Santa Barbara. Okay, And so then
Speaker 1: my song got picked and he was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: telling you to drop out of school, but I'm telling
Speaker 1: you to drop out of school to pack out stuff
Speaker 1: and get out of here. If Kenny Loggins says that,
Speaker 1: how old were you? Yeah, I was nineteen. I was
Speaker 1: in college. He's like, girl, you don't need to scoop, okay, right,
Speaker 1: So you took his advice. So I took his advice.
Speaker 1: Called my parents and that was the next logical move
Speaker 1: was l a because that's you're so close where else
Speaker 1: you do music, right? But there? So I called my
Speaker 1: parents that I'm dropping out and they were like, cool,
Speaker 1: we'll send up the truck. Your parents are cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they've always believed in it. You know, how awesome
Speaker 1: are you to have parents that aren't scared of your
Speaker 1: talent and are scared of you chasing it or the failure,
Speaker 1: like and like when you fail, you get back up,
Speaker 1: like it's always like all right, well that door didn't open.
Speaker 1: Well let's keep going, you know. And they never wanted
Speaker 1: they never were worried about you having like a safe
Speaker 1: job or something. They're like, you go there, do it.
Speaker 1: I remember my dad said, we will make this dream
Speaker 1: happen if we have to go to our last square
Speaker 1: of toilet paper. Yeah, and I'm about there. Amazing, because
Speaker 1: if you don't have a dream, and if you don't
Speaker 1: have people believing in you, then what do you have?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, it's not like such a you
Speaker 1: have nothing, but you got to go for nothing, you
Speaker 1: literally and you had support because it's so scary to
Speaker 1: chase a dream. I remembered up. I had a cheap
Speaker 1: Cherokee at the time, and I remember I left because
Speaker 1: Kenny Logan said you a loud So he gave you
Speaker 1: that one conversation and you never talked to him since,
Speaker 1: have never. I actually came full circle because I'm signing
Speaker 1: to William Morris Agency and he signed to William Morris
Speaker 1: and so Rob Beckham um took me backstage and I
Speaker 1: you know, and here I am like, this is so cool,
Speaker 1: and take me on tour. Can I come from? You know?
Speaker 1: What did you say? He was just very gracious. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know stories happened like that to him all
Speaker 1: the time. You know. He was very gracious and was
Speaker 1: just like, well, you know, I'm glad it's working out,
Speaker 1: you know, because if you tell somebody that and then
Speaker 1: it doesn't forget and you've ruined my life Kenny logging,
Speaker 1: and now I have no house, no nothing, you know.
Speaker 1: So he was like, I'm glad you have a house
Speaker 1: right in her house. Everyone we're here, but you know
Speaker 1: it could have gone another another way. UM So anyways
Speaker 1: did that and then um, you know, God is so
Speaker 1: good that I had a chance encounter with um. I'm
Speaker 1: Vertigo Gautica's wife who is partners with David Foster, and
Speaker 1: so I recorded five sides with David and you just
Speaker 1: rant you just became friends with her. And then she's like,
Speaker 1: you gotta meet my Well we were um at, me
Speaker 1: and my mom were at a restaurant in Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: and um I was a server at the time, and
Speaker 1: they didn't realize that I was a server, and so
Speaker 1: one of the other guys sent it over free dessert
Speaker 1: and it was because he was a bust er at
Speaker 1: the place I was working. And so she said, why
Speaker 1: do you get free dessert and we don't, and I
Speaker 1: don't remember what I said, but um, I said, well
Speaker 1: we can share with you, not realizing who they were,
Speaker 1: and then she liked the tone in my talking voice
Speaker 1: because you have a really good thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: People would say, maybe I should be a sex operator.
Speaker 1: How can give me a call? I'm gonna be a sexer. Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm calling because I really need some love in my life. Well,
Speaker 1: what can I do for you? Is there anything else
Speaker 1: that you need? Tell me your problems? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you have a huge business. I mean singing voice sex operator. Hey,
Speaker 1: what can I do for you? I mean mine just
Speaker 1: sounds like a joke. No, no, Once, I'm my friend
Speaker 1: from high school called my mom a guy and my
Speaker 1: mom's like, hello, you've reached. She has the same voice
Speaker 1: as I do. She's like, hello, you've reached Susannah. And
Speaker 1: I can't get to the phone, so leave a message
Speaker 1: and I'll get back to you. And he lets a
Speaker 1: message and call me. Girls, I feel like I should
Speaker 1: have just paid your mom to do that. I mean
Speaker 1: this agreed with you know, you just were born with this,
Speaker 1: always have had, just like a lot of my aunts
Speaker 1: have raspy voices. And to be such a bombs crazy
Speaker 1: do you have to carry the taser with you? You
Speaker 1: don't come marry anyone. I know, I know what you
Speaker 1: like what you're seeing here, but listen back. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we all have these raspy voices, so singing
Speaker 1: doesn't work out. Operating sex operating Well, okay, so she
Speaker 1: likes your tone, so she likes my tone. And this
Speaker 1: is David Foster is who to her again? No, um
Speaker 1: emberto Gautica, this is in Berto Gautica's wave, and emberto
Speaker 1: Gautica is David Foster a long time producing partner, like
Speaker 1: they've done Whitney and Michael Bubley and um Trash Grogan.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just random, super rand. That's how God
Speaker 1: works out. That is how God works out. My mom
Speaker 1: calls them god sidences. God sidences. Love it because they
Speaker 1: are not randy, are not random, but they feel feel random. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So she said, well, are you a singer? And I said,
Speaker 1: I am, you know whatever, blah blah blah blah. Um, well,
Speaker 1: if you're any good, here's my address. She sent me
Speaker 1: her address, her home address, home address, Yeah, Beverly, Beverly Gautica.
Speaker 1: And um so my mom was like, you send that demo.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I was like, Mom, everyone's husband somebody
Speaker 1: in something like, she's probably lying, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Well she wasn't, and I sent it in a week later,
Speaker 1: I was up at David Foster's house, Yeah, in Malibu,
Speaker 1: and like recording and what were you recording? Well, we
Speaker 1: I had written songs, and so they took me into
Speaker 1: this place called record Plant, which is like a really
Speaker 1: awesome studio in l A. Like everyone records their Lady
Speaker 1: Gaga justin Bieber, anyone even country when they come to
Speaker 1: record there. I mean, that is the place. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like ocean way here. So UM went up there
Speaker 1: and you record your recording, your own songs. So you
Speaker 1: meet this person, she like your voice, and she's hooked
Speaker 1: up to the two like biggest music people. And then
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, next week, just come up here. Let
Speaker 1: David Foster record five songs that you wrote when he
Speaker 1: just met you, like legit like and I didn't even
Speaker 1: have good songs. I didn't even realize that I was
Speaker 1: going to Um David Foster's house, Like Amberto just said
Speaker 1: here is the address because they had their studio there
Speaker 1: and come and meet us. And so I was like okay,
Speaker 1: and so Um I went and you had to go
Speaker 1: through like he doesn't live there anymore, but you had
Speaker 1: to go through like two gates. And I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 1: Und I was like what, like it is so massive
Speaker 1: that there was a trolley that took you from the
Speaker 1: main house down to the pool. No joke, you like
Speaker 1: got in it and like went down. It was insane.
Speaker 1: And then I think they said that the front yard
Speaker 1: is like three football fields or why so are you
Speaker 1: like jaw on the ground? Yes, girl, I was like,
Speaker 1: you're driving up there in my jankie geep place. I think,
Speaker 1: are you like by yourself? So what in the world
Speaker 1: are you? Can you speak? When I would literally just
Speaker 1: like oh my god. So then I go in there
Speaker 1: and why did they were they looking for a girl
Speaker 1: to sign? Where they were looking? I know they just
Speaker 1: said that they would like to just they just liked
Speaker 1: my voice and I had four songs that um I
Speaker 1: sent over to them, and they weren't looking for anything.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were doing. This is what okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's you know, that's insane. It's insane.
Speaker 1: It's insane. It's really come to the house and let
Speaker 1: David Foster because and then so then I get there
Speaker 1: and like I see all. I mean it is like
Speaker 1: from lord to ceiling of like every record you've ever
Speaker 1: thought of and listened to from like the Tubes I
Speaker 1: think that was their name, to like Donnie McClerkin to
Speaker 1: like Toto to Whitney to Barber Strikes. I mean like
Speaker 1: you're just like what And in the room that I
Speaker 1: recorded in like did the vocals um it is where
Speaker 1: he has his piano and he had like this mic
Speaker 1: that dropped down or whatever. Like you're literally standing in
Speaker 1: there with like the tapes of like The Bodyguard, like yeah,
Speaker 1: because it was old school and you know, because that's
Speaker 1: how they recorded. And I'm like, I mean I literally
Speaker 1: like there was a moment when I was just like
Speaker 1: I just need a moment because I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: like I was like, this is surreal. It's like why
Speaker 1: is this even? Why is it happening? It's like this
Speaker 1: is true. Yeah, So I didn't realize I was going
Speaker 1: there and Metamburdo there and then I was in there
Speaker 1: kind of just like singing over some stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: like he like played down some chords or whatever and
Speaker 1: just to hear how it was in the studio and whatever.
Speaker 1: And then he goes somebody wants to meet you, and
Speaker 1: I was like okay, So like I walk out and
Speaker 1: it's David Foster and I was like, okay, like that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So we did. We recorded four songs that I wrote. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: This was over a course of like I say, a
Speaker 1: couple of months. So what was their vision with you? Like,
Speaker 1: why did they say they wanted to? They just really
Speaker 1: liked my tone and there was nobody like my towne
Speaker 1: except really pink um that so they just wanted to
Speaker 1: and see what was what they could come out of.
Speaker 1: Because he also David also has a record label with
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers. It's called One for three Okay, so they
Speaker 1: were just like gonna have musical creativity and see what
Speaker 1: happened to see what. They literally just love making music
Speaker 1: and they loved your town, so let's create. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's kind of beautiful. It was really awesome because
Speaker 1: that's truly for the sake of the art, right Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even love that. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: were looking for somebody, I don't, I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: I just know that, like, yeah, I was there, Okay,
Speaker 1: it was happening. So two months or so, you recording
Speaker 1: and then I got him back in just wasn't me,
Speaker 1: It wasn't did they were they crazy about him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they thought it was great, but I was.
Speaker 1: I remember pulling into my driveway at the house in
Speaker 1: West Hollywood and I said, called my dad and I said,
Speaker 1: I am not Barbara Strikes, I am not Michael. This
Speaker 1: is not me. And so I had to go and say, like,
Speaker 1: this isn't me. You went and told David Foster, and
Speaker 1: I don't I can't say that. Other guy saying, Berto, Katika,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't told them when you literally and you have
Speaker 1: nothing else going on, right, nothing, nothing, nothing like I
Speaker 1: was serving at Master of Steakhouse in Beverly Hills. But
Speaker 1: you wouldn't turn down, you said, I politefully decline. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't say like that. I was bawling, crying, like
Speaker 1: how crazy and I this and and I just love
Speaker 1: you guys so much, but you know, like literally, but
Speaker 1: how crazy that you knew we're gonna have some on
Speaker 1: that note, cheers cheers to you. But how crazy that
Speaker 1: you knew to stand up for your sound at that point.
Speaker 1: Because break this down, because this is a trip that
Speaker 1: happens a lot of people. Yeah, get hooked up with
Speaker 1: really powerful people and then they change their whole vibe.
Speaker 1: They changes are sound. They change everything, and they're usually
Speaker 1: the person is so young and green, like I was green,
Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, well shoot, if they say to
Speaker 1: do it, then I just need to do it because
Speaker 1: this is my only shot. But not you know, I
Speaker 1: just also know that they kind of like and this
Speaker 1: is nothing because I am still I don't talk to
Speaker 1: I'm not close to David Foster at all, um, and
Speaker 1: not because any bad blood, just but different ways in
Speaker 1: different ways. But I'm still close to emberto Um and
Speaker 1: he's incredible. He's chile In. He has a really thick
Speaker 1: um you know, Latin accent and very fiery, and he's
Speaker 1: such a good looking older man. Holy mom, like salt
Speaker 1: and pepper. You're like, okay, um. But there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of times, like when I was in the studios,
Speaker 1: like can you clear up your rasp a little bit?
Speaker 1: Can you? So it was they wanted to slick me
Speaker 1: a little bit, which is what they do and it's
Speaker 1: beautiful and it's amazing, but like I'm refined, I'm not slick,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be slick, you know. Um. But it didn't in
Speaker 1: there and they said, what do you want to do,
Speaker 1: And I said, I want to go to Nashville. I
Speaker 1: think you know, how did you know you want to go?
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Well, because my dad's a cowboy.
Speaker 1: He's a professional team rooper, so he like, I was
Speaker 1: raised country. You know, I can ride you know, barrow
Speaker 1: rays like my dad's been in the road. Country girl,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah from California. You know the West is wild.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you are could be the new
Speaker 1: Tanya Tucker but with a huge range like she obviously
Speaker 1: you got Tanna Hast, but she has that Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you who would be your inspiration of country
Speaker 1: us because you have such a huge range? Though that
Speaker 1: do I do? It's speaking. I was trained to opera
Speaker 1: in Santa Barbara, so that's why I learned to really
Speaker 1: do that. Um jeez. I always say that if Pink
Speaker 1: and Shania Twain could have had a baby, that would
Speaker 1: be me. Mike. You know, I is sassy, but she's
Speaker 1: really refined and really sweet, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: that you can swallow it. And Pink is a heck
Speaker 1: of a singer and she's just kind of like a boy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But then she can tear
Speaker 1: your heart out with a ballad. And so if I
Speaker 1: could put those two together when you say kind of
Speaker 1: like a boy, just mean like she just has that
Speaker 1: energy where she's an unapologetic yeah and just and she's
Speaker 1: not she's not really like soft and so womanly. She's
Speaker 1: beautiful and she stands for being a woman and um,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. But she and I like the way that
Speaker 1: she kind of like puts her middle finger to certain situations.
Speaker 1: She does it very smart. It never sounds angry to me.
Speaker 1: It sounds like I would have said that, you know,
Speaker 1: like you in your hand tonight, like stop buying me drinks?
Speaker 1: You're going home alone? You know who would have thought
Speaker 1: you in your hand tonight? You know? Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? She says things very smartly and she
Speaker 1: doesn't care trying smartly. That's a word, it is smartly
Speaker 1: and she but she's getting her point across. She's like, listen, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't yeah, like I can buy my own drink
Speaker 1: and you're going home with your hand because yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not looking to get yeah, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: and I love that she stands in her authority of
Speaker 1: who she is, and that's that's amazing to be able
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, it is amazing. Yeah. Why
Speaker 1: is that especially hard for women? Do you think? I
Speaker 1: hopefully you know? Um well I never thought being a
Speaker 1: girl meant that I couldn't do something until I moved
Speaker 1: to Nashville. Okay, break that down. UM, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just always I mean, my dad just always was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing could do, like you know, you
Speaker 1: he all of his brothers had boys and I was
Speaker 1: the only girl. And it was like put around the
Speaker 1: horse show, go you know what I mean like that,
Speaker 1: it's just you just you just go, you figure out,
Speaker 1: you do it. Just it doesn't matter what happened in Nashville,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's just hard to get Um.
Speaker 1: I think there's such a different way of thinking is
Speaker 1: you know, women shouldn't have as big of a voice.
Speaker 1: You can have a voice, but if it's what voice
Speaker 1: is told to you to have sometimes um. And I've
Speaker 1: been blessed to be so supported by country radio and
Speaker 1: UM to get the record deal that I got. You
Speaker 1: have just I got a deal straight with Sony right
Speaker 1: after the David Foster thing. Yeah, well no, that was
Speaker 1: I moved back to I moved to Nashville. Um, about
Speaker 1: four years later I signed my deal. Um, I feel
Speaker 1: like my looks were chat do they look chapter? Look great? Beautiful? Awesome?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Um. I yeah, I moved. I signed my
Speaker 1: record deal when I was so Um that was four
Speaker 1: years ago. Um. So I moved here four years later,
Speaker 1: maybe four and a half, um, and was blessed enough
Speaker 1: to get it really fast. Okay, So finish your thought
Speaker 1: about why it was hard for women in Nashville, and
Speaker 1: then your experienced you know, I mean I've been blessed
Speaker 1: saying I got a deal really fast. Whatever. But you um,
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard, you know, because you're on the road,
Speaker 1: you're doing this, you're doing that, and we do have
Speaker 1: different needs, you know. Um. And I think it's okay
Speaker 1: to be a woman and be delicate, you know, it
Speaker 1: really is okay, Um, but sometimes that's taken not okay,
Speaker 1: it's it's more of a burden. You know. It's easier,
Speaker 1: excuse me, it's easier to have you know, the guy
Speaker 1: that throws on the baseball cap and the T shirt
Speaker 1: and roll out. Well, we can't do that. So I'm
Speaker 1: up at four o'clock in the morning, but on my
Speaker 1: lashes but niket sealer, you know whatever, because there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a different standard that's help for us,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's easier to not have to, um,
Speaker 1: you know, have five bags when a guy brings a
Speaker 1: duffel bag, you know what, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I think sometimes we get um type casted as
Speaker 1: maybe just a maintenance or a diva or something difficult,
Speaker 1: when really you're just doing what you gotta do to
Speaker 1: look great. Yeah, do your best performance is your best football? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to Like I think we're
Speaker 1: all just trying to keep up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And we got a little bit more keeping up to
Speaker 1: do because you know, we can't roll in with the
Speaker 1: baseball cap, because if we do roll in with the
Speaker 1: baseball cap, it's like we don't care, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And that's not the case. But I might
Speaker 1: ask didn't want to be up at four UM all
Speaker 1: the time putting on lashes and putting this on, putting
Speaker 1: that makes sure my hair is always like some days
Speaker 1: I literally just want to be in a baseball cap
Speaker 1: and tennis shoes and a T shirt. And I still
Speaker 1: have as much passion about the song or their single
Speaker 1: or their radio station that we're going to whatever, as
Speaker 1: any other you know person just sometimes it just sucks.
Speaker 1: So if there was a little bit of grace I
Speaker 1: think shown uh in those situations that it's not we
Speaker 1: we do we we we we we, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit more work, you know. So tell me about how
Speaker 1: you got your record or how that happened and what
Speaker 1: that was like, because it was like lightning for you,
Speaker 1: and right after that was the women's starting. When you
Speaker 1: got your deal, right after is like right after okay,
Speaker 1: So explain to me how your deal came about and
Speaker 1: what that looked like for you, how I felt, and
Speaker 1: then this women's movement that's happening, because it's kind of
Speaker 1: huge right now. It is. It's huge, and it's a
Speaker 1: it's a blessing. It's kind of awesome. Um. So my attorney,
Speaker 1: Jeff Pieterman Um called Jim Katino and it was he
Speaker 1: and R Sony Yeah, the VP A and R SONI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Um that he had a female that you know, he
Speaker 1: thinks that I really he really needed to hear. And
Speaker 1: so I walked into Katino's office with my EP aready
Speaker 1: that was really sun SONI already written because I had
Speaker 1: been coming back and forth working with Jesse Frasier, Karrie Barlow,
Speaker 1: and those two are huge hit makers. Jesse does like
Speaker 1: all of Thomas rhet stuff. Carry has written every every
Speaker 1: Sun and also Jesse runs rock Nation now that Nashville
Speaker 1: um wing for Jay z Oh dang go Jesse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. He started off in wishing, Isn't that funny?
Speaker 1: Gave me my internship, he got me started. It's crazy
Speaker 1: how you evolve. It really you stick around. People just
Speaker 1: evolved and if you don't give up, yes, you can't.
Speaker 1: Cannot give up. And also I think another thing too,
Speaker 1: it's not only about not giving up, but it's also
Speaker 1: about maintaining a positive attitude because there are times that
Speaker 1: I just want to punch stuff, you know, like I do,
Speaker 1: because it's just not right. No, it's frustrating. It's like
Speaker 1: what the heck? Like, you have all the talent, you
Speaker 1: have the fool package, you have a song, but what
Speaker 1: and then you see something else that makes and I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do they make it? Yeah? But you know, I
Speaker 1: mean everything has its time, Okay, Jesse, Jesse, you're writing them.
Speaker 1: You've been coming back and forth to Nashville, back and
Speaker 1: forth to Nashville. Um, I was engaged, Lord almighty, oh
Speaker 1: my god, but you just tell me one thing about engagement.
Speaker 1: Near death experience happened, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 1: think it's for him, not for me, yea, for him crazy.
Speaker 1: He's he was a pro snowboarder and just an adrenaline junkie.
Speaker 1: He's good dude. He's married now. But so I came
Speaker 1: sat with the meeting, um played like just some work
Speaker 1: tapes and like fumbled around on the guitar and Katino said, um,
Speaker 1: I want to sign you to Sony just like that.
Speaker 1: That's what dreas are made of. Shoot, I mean this
Speaker 1: voice you have is something else. Just to get that
Speaker 1: to get signed on the spot. But Leah, honestly, to
Speaker 1: have to get signed on the spot, that does not happen.
Speaker 1: Even when people get signed. It's like courting many meetings,
Speaker 1: many showcases, and then it gets signed. To get sign
Speaker 1: on the spot, your voice is something else. Thank you?
Speaker 1: So were you like? Well, I I said, are you
Speaker 1: eff and kidding? You? Did? I did? I just said,
Speaker 1: are you eving kidding me? And he was like no,
Speaker 1: is that something that you know you think you would
Speaker 1: want to do? And I would is like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. So then, um, it really happened. It
Speaker 1: was really crazy. Um so then hey, I mean I
Speaker 1: cannot even believe that happened to you. Yeah. So then
Speaker 1: we were I was the quickest signing to Sony in
Speaker 1: twelve years. Wow. Yeah that was the quickest one years.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask, I didn't care. I was like, take
Speaker 1: the title, will take the title. I got it. Um
Speaker 1: And then uh so then we went in to start
Speaker 1: making a record and Jesse Fraser came and Carrie Barlow
Speaker 1: came and, um, you write the whole album. You've already
Speaker 1: written it basically. Well, we we cut twelve songs and
Speaker 1: then just an EP came out, but you know how
Speaker 1: that goes like five to six five. Um, so we
Speaker 1: did that. But like when we were in the studio
Speaker 1: because like the songs were coming out so good, and
Speaker 1: there was such an amazing buzz about me, which is
Speaker 1: like such a blessing. Yeah, you came in town with
Speaker 1: a big, big, big buzz. Yeah. Um that to they,
Speaker 1: A'm not kidding. We were in the Studo just cutting
Speaker 1: demos and Katino said, because there's three labels Understny, there's
Speaker 1: Columbia r C in Arista. So I was not assigned
Speaker 1: to a label yet. Okay, so I was just signed
Speaker 1: to Sony, but I hadn't been placed into like my chambers.
Speaker 1: And for all those people listening, the three different labels
Speaker 1: means that there's a head label, head guy who runs
Speaker 1: all three labels. But then each individual label has label
Speaker 1: has his own president, its own product motion staff, its
Speaker 1: own team. So there's three different teams under Sony. So
Speaker 1: if you're on Arista, then you really it's a totally
Speaker 1: different experience than if you're on Columbia, but they're all Sony.
Speaker 1: Just for someone else who wouldn't know exactly. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just recording. I'm just like, holy crap, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Um so we're doing that and then um literally Katino
Speaker 1: gets a phone call and he says, um, well, we're
Speaker 1: upgrading these two masters and we're making a record. And
Speaker 1: all of us were like, what what the master means?
Speaker 1: It's like quality to go on an album, Like, it's
Speaker 1: album quality. So you're like, oh my gosh. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I can't forget to mention Rusty Gaston and this music.
Speaker 1: He's He's incredible positivity for days. Oh my God one
Speaker 1: of my biggest champions. I wrote for him in this
Speaker 1: music for three years. Um, and he was such a
Speaker 1: champion and such a song guy that I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: that I had him in my corner during this time.
Speaker 1: And I still talked to him like, hey, rest, like
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? It's like what do
Speaker 1: you think? You know? So? Um, But anyways, we were
Speaker 1: in there and Rusty was there, and Jesse and Carry
Speaker 1: and Jim Katino and um we were Magan a record
Speaker 1: and so we did it. And literally I was already
Speaker 1: on radio tour, you guys, and I had not even
Speaker 1: signed the dotted line. Why was it happening so fast?
Speaker 1: Usually gift to wait forever? The music was, I don't know.
Speaker 1: She said it would all line up. It was Jesus okay,
Speaker 1: So what what happened? So now you're on radio tour
Speaker 1: radio tours, wing across the country, talking to every radio station,
Speaker 1: every every like I didn't even know there was this
Speaker 1: many radio stations, and God's greeners. It's kind of awesome
Speaker 1: because you get to see the whole country. You could
Speaker 1: see the whole country, and I got to meet some
Speaker 1: really amazing radio people that I've been blessed to still
Speaker 1: keep contact with and like, you know, really cultivate relationships
Speaker 1: with them. Um. And you know they gave me my
Speaker 1: first top forty single that you know, you dream of
Speaker 1: being on the charts and that, and so that garnered
Speaker 1: me to be able to um open for you know,
Speaker 1: Brad Paisley, I was on the road for with him.
Speaker 1: Would you learn seven months like almost the full year? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you learn from being on tours? How how
Speaker 1: does he do life? Like? How does he do his
Speaker 1: road life? And what did you take away? Yeah? Well
Speaker 1: what I learned from Brad is um, how to treat
Speaker 1: your opening acts? How does he treat you? Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: way he treats people is you know, we had run
Speaker 1: of the whole stage. Um, we could use the big screens.
Speaker 1: It's like he basically allowed us to put our best
Speaker 1: foot forward. Um, and which in turn makes his show better,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But sometimes people don't want
Speaker 1: the opening act to be just as good or better
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I mean. And the opening
Speaker 1: exactly exactly and he literally I mean, we had I
Speaker 1: mean full stage, all the you know things in the back.
Speaker 1: We were allowed to put big banners of our names
Speaker 1: UM that and he you know, had amazing caterine. His
Speaker 1: staff was always like, what can we do, how can
Speaker 1: we help you? What's this? What's that? Um? You know
Speaker 1: you're wanted and let you know that you were wanted
Speaker 1: and welcome. UM. And then he did really cool things
Speaker 1: for us, like he um rented out a go kart
Speaker 1: thing for all of us and had it catered and
Speaker 1: so we just after playing we read road go carts
Speaker 1: until five they am you know with him, he U
Speaker 1: renting out a whole movie theater for us and it
Speaker 1: was just sets and paid for everything. Like we just
Speaker 1: walked up to the place and they just gave us
Speaker 1: our whatever snack we wanted. He just wanted it to
Speaker 1: feel like a family. Yeah. And the coolest thing that
Speaker 1: he did um the last night, the last day of
Speaker 1: the tour, UM, they all said, you know youve got
Speaker 1: to get on somewheread Brad's bus. Um. I rode Randy's
Speaker 1: bus because I was with Randy Houser and Charlie Worsham
Speaker 1: where the other It was so much fun, so much fun, UM.
Speaker 1: And we were able to go and see Air Force
Speaker 1: one and literally walk the plane and see where the
Speaker 1: president sleeps and like all these different things happen. Brad, Brad,
Speaker 1: when you're Brad bas the sky is open. His friends
Speaker 1: with the president. Yeah, because he had just went I
Speaker 1: think it was Obama, um that he had just went
Speaker 1: with Obama to Afghanistan. Yeah, a force one. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you have this amazing tour singles. Everyone's excited about you.
Speaker 1: You'reing what happens because then my ask got dropped? But
Speaker 1: how did that happen? Because you could hear the biggesod pity?
Speaker 1: How could it go from that to getting dropped? Well?
Speaker 1: How trying to figure it out now? And how do
Speaker 1: you process? Lord? Lots of lots of How'm gonna be? Okay?
Speaker 1: And therapy, lots of one lots of Okay, just take
Speaker 1: a deep breath, just go to the jam journey. This
Speaker 1: is part of my journey. Okay. I'm going to accept
Speaker 1: this and I'm going to you know, turn it into
Speaker 1: a positive. Remember Land, there's there's a blessing. Yeah, I swear,
Speaker 1: I swear there's a blessing. Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true.
Speaker 1: You know what happened and what happened? What did you do? Well?
Speaker 1: I was only signed for eight months, but it was
Speaker 1: a huge sign. It's like, oh, it's crazy, we're so
Speaker 1: excited about you, we can't sign you fast enough. Sign yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: And then Gary Overton, who was the president of the
Speaker 1: Nashville office, Uh, he got let go. So it was
Speaker 1: a regime change that is, oh you got you got
Speaker 1: caught change. So he don't realize that can really affect
Speaker 1: an artist's fate. Oh my god. Well they wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, keep me, um, but the next person doesn't
Speaker 1: believe in you in the same way, and you lose
Speaker 1: your champion. It's just a different song. And that's what
Speaker 1: Katino said. He sat me down. He said, nothing's coming
Speaker 1: out on you for twenty six weeks maybe. But before
Speaker 1: they were like, couldn't get you because they didn't have
Speaker 1: a president. He was like, we don't have a president. Um,
Speaker 1: I think they didn't have a president for almost eight months. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Jim was going to act fast and just get
Speaker 1: it out there because he knew that you were going
Speaker 1: to go. So he's like, I'm taking this opportunity to
Speaker 1: get you out there, get you out there. Um. And
Speaker 1: then they I mean they dropped me. Sarah Evans, Jared Neman,
Speaker 1: the Swan Brothers and somebody else all in one spoop.
Speaker 1: How did that make you feel kind of better? Actually?
Speaker 1: Tell me why had it gotten bad? So it was good?
Speaker 1: How long was it good? And when did the switch happen?
Speaker 1: What did the switch feel like? And then what did
Speaker 1: it ever? Since I got signed? There m there was
Speaker 1: rumors that Gary was getting fired. Um, but it it
Speaker 1: made me feel better. Not because you're happy that other
Speaker 1: people are getting dropped, but those are some amazing artists
Speaker 1: that I just mentioned that have had number ones and
Speaker 1: incredible careers and still have incredible careers and are still relevant.
Speaker 1: So to be catapult or to be um, you realize
Speaker 1: it wasn't about you, right, It was about this. It
Speaker 1: was about the situation. And that's why it made me
Speaker 1: feel better, because like, if it was just me, I
Speaker 1: would be like, you know, like holy crap, you know,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. And you know, Jared's gone off to
Speaker 1: be with Curb and staying with Love and Death, and
Speaker 1: Sarah's just Sarah and she can you know, she's ye
Speaker 1: with ray Lyn and Calie Shore. So um, that's why
Speaker 1: it made me feel better that it was It wasn't
Speaker 1: about the talent talent it or the songs or you
Speaker 1: know that it was a situation. Yeah, so that happens
Speaker 1: to so many artists. People just would never know. They're like,
Speaker 1: what happened, And that's what happened a lot, that's what happened.
Speaker 1: And so I had two choices, you know, I was
Speaker 1: pushed off of a cliff, you know, um, and I
Speaker 1: had two choices and that was fly or sat. And
Speaker 1: so I just you know, there's been times that I've
Speaker 1: had to, um take some breaks of flying because my
Speaker 1: wings are tired, you know. And I think that's good
Speaker 1: to realize what you need to take a break, because
Speaker 1: if you push when you're tired, you may end up
Speaker 1: getting something that's not You could hurt yourself or someone
Speaker 1: else or everyone or everyone might fail if you if
Speaker 1: you fly, you're tired, you gotta take a break. I
Speaker 1: gotta take a break. But good for you. You know,
Speaker 1: it seems to me that you're very good at listening
Speaker 1: to yourself. I'm getting better. Um, I'm definitely getting better.
Speaker 1: And this Sony experience really helps me, you know, to
Speaker 1: really just look within. Because regardless if it was like
Speaker 1: only the regime change or you know, it had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with me. There's always something that you can
Speaker 1: take from it, you know what I mean. And really,
Speaker 1: you know, it sucks, and you have to see that
Speaker 1: there's beauty in the breakdown. And so that's what I'm
Speaker 1: learning to see. And you know, I have an amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing agent, Richard Rodgers, and she kept me on the
Speaker 1: road for the last four years, which is amazing. So
Speaker 1: you've been playing shows. You've never stopped playing shows. This
Speaker 1: is my first summer, this last one that um I
Speaker 1: had haven't been on the road. So you even when
Speaker 1: you're I had that thing, she kept me rolling figure
Speaker 1: it out, just to not get lost in the land
Speaker 1: of Leah up here, you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I know my land of Caroline is insane.
Speaker 1: I have so much therapy on this head, I'm telling you, like,
Speaker 1: and there's times, you know, I'd stay up late at
Speaker 1: and and you can't shut your mind off, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you sometimes can create fake stories in your said.
Speaker 1: That's what I started to realize, Oh my god, just
Speaker 1: because you have a thought I am. I no longer
Speaker 1: allow myself to piece together thoughts that I've made up
Speaker 1: unless it's true. I cannot fact unless it's fact. If
Speaker 1: I'm just piecing together speculation, even if I have strong speculation,
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's still still yes. You're still an assumption,
Speaker 1: still an assumption. You might as well not ruin your
Speaker 1: life by stup. It's true, it's really really true. And
Speaker 1: so and you do you get lost in land of
Speaker 1: what if? You know? And that's the word different. You
Speaker 1: know what this would have changed? To this change? I
Speaker 1: would have done this, And it's like, you can't, you can't.
Speaker 1: You have to iron curtain the past. You you can't
Speaker 1: do anything. I mean you can. You can't change what
Speaker 1: you didn't do, but you can change it now here.
Speaker 1: So learn the lesson and then don't keep you know,
Speaker 1: don't punish yourself. Don't keep punishing yourself. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And what did have you learned? And what
Speaker 1: did you change? Well? What did I learn and what
Speaker 1: did I change? Because I feel like you are in
Speaker 1: your zone right now? Maybe took a little break of flying.
Speaker 1: What did you do when you took your break? Well
Speaker 1: it was really cool. Um, I never stopped working, you know,
Speaker 1: like I was always on the road. Um, I was
Speaker 1: always you know, writing and doing things and I got,
Speaker 1: you know, Rusty got me two outside cuts with a
Speaker 1: Universal artist. And then a girl I think we had
Speaker 1: like a six week number one, um gosh, what is
Speaker 1: her name, Christy lamb Uh in Australia. She wrote a
Speaker 1: song or cut a song of mine called bad habit
Speaker 1: Um and was number one for six weeks. That's amazing
Speaker 1: as pretty cool. And then this girl, Vanessa Marie Carter,
Speaker 1: she's look her up, you guys. She's so beautiful. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, she's so pretty. She's a Canadian artist on
Speaker 1: Universal and Mickey Jack cones it's producing it. So she
Speaker 1: just released this song bless my Heart. Um that it's
Speaker 1: not a sweet song. It's like bless my heart because
Speaker 1: I'm breaking all the rules like forgive me what I
Speaker 1: do on Saturday, forgive me on Sunday. So and I
Speaker 1: wrote that with Jesse and Hillary Lindsay and Carrie Barlow.
Speaker 1: That's a dream team. Yeah. Well I actually cut it
Speaker 1: on my EP um and then she gave it another life.
Speaker 1: So she's so cool. Um. So I took a break
Speaker 1: kind of out of writing about myself, um and writing
Speaker 1: and getting in other people's skin, which was really awesome.
Speaker 1: I needed a break. I did I did. I needed
Speaker 1: a break from me. I needed I did. I needed
Speaker 1: a break about talking about myself. I needed a break
Speaker 1: about analyzing, analyzing, do I feel this? What's this? What's that?
Speaker 1: And then I had an amazing opportunity last Christmas, not
Speaker 1: this one, but seventeen I would think, right, this is
Speaker 1: e don't don't don't. Okay, not this Christmas. But the
Speaker 1: Christmas math is not my thing. I literally I'm like
Speaker 1: what I count on my thing? Years say oh it's
Speaker 1: so bad because we're creative, Thank goodness, that doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be our job counting, because I would really be bad.
Speaker 1: I would be humeless. I mean we'd be screwed. Oh
Speaker 1: laurd I maybe, um so an amazing opportunity to um
Speaker 1: write this actor. His name is Jeremy Renner. Who is that?
Speaker 1: He wasn't? Have you ever seen the hurt Locker? Um,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen the hurt Locker? You want a bunch
Speaker 1: of I'm gonna embarrass myself. I'm so not in the
Speaker 1: loop of what's happening in the Avengers. Okay, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that either. At least you're honest. Anyways, he's a
Speaker 1: very easy's like watching Golden girls like my Bed on Netflix,
Speaker 1: and I'm like watching friends like one things that make
Speaker 1: me feel happy. My brainds too fragile, same same thing.
Speaker 1: I can't put seven there. I can't. Sometimes sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: watch like a movie and then I'll have to watch
Speaker 1: something happy. You can sleep like this is us kills me.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. It's breaking my I can't this way,
Speaker 1: but just you should start. It's really that great. That's
Speaker 1: what everybody's saying. I'm like, alright, but it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: heart ranging, it's heart ranging enough, heartrenching. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to do with my own heart red stuff, trying to
Speaker 1: get through today, heart raging. I'm just trying to get
Speaker 1: through anyway. Um. So Jeremy is, you know, an acclaimed actor.
Speaker 1: He's been um in all the Adventures, Mission Impossible, hurt Locker.
Speaker 1: He's a big wind river. He's won um a couple
Speaker 1: of oscars. Um. He's really yeah, he's I mean he
Speaker 1: is an A list yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Um. So
Speaker 1: he's this incredible singer and a friend of mine was
Speaker 1: like saw that I was in town. It was like
Speaker 1: managing in l a, managing his music career. And so
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I got this artist that
Speaker 1: I would love for you to write with and didn't
Speaker 1: tell us who he was, and I was like, all right, cool, Like,
Speaker 1: So I drove up from my parents house in um
Speaker 1: Palm Springs to l A and we sat and wed.
Speaker 1: He wasn't even there. They didn't even tell us. I
Speaker 1: just trust this guy because he's a pretty big manager.
Speaker 1: And um sat down and he played us the music
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, who is this.
Speaker 1: This guy's voice is insane and he said it's Jammy Renner.
Speaker 1: I was like the actor. He said, yeah. So we
Speaker 1: spent a week. So my girlfriend Leanna, you know Leanna crazy,
Speaker 1: She's so fun. She's that bunch is crazy. I'll say it.
Speaker 1: I love her. She's crazy, she's a she's a really
Speaker 1: she's a good good agree with it anyway. So we
Speaker 1: spent six seven months at his house in the Hills
Speaker 1: writing his whole entire record with him. Is he single?
Speaker 1: Did you try to date them? Two? I mean, shoot,
Speaker 1: might as well was making one stop Shop Shop he
Speaker 1: hit single and no, no, we did not date. We
Speaker 1: did not date, and he was like and moving on.
Speaker 1: We did not date at all and we did not
Speaker 1: do any matches, dancing or anything, nothing, But I do
Speaker 1: love him and he's become like a very very I
Speaker 1: is it hot in here? I gotta look him up. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: look he's really cute. Wrote his whole so I wrote
Speaker 1: his whole album. Um, and they're just picking like the
Speaker 1: songs to come out. I mean we, I think we
Speaker 1: you and Leah wrote na NA I always get mixed
Speaker 1: we and everybody gets his mixed up to me and
Speaker 1: Leanna wrote it with him, did you all too? Well?
Speaker 1: He wrote two of the songs UM with us, but
Speaker 1: then he just when he met y'all, like John just
Speaker 1: stuck with you guys as his writing team. He didn't
Speaker 1: even try to go like I mean, he was writing
Speaker 1: with like Diane Warren and like all these crazy people.
Speaker 1: He could write with any anyone, anybody. But he loved
Speaker 1: the dynamic of YouTube. Y'all have it. And that happens
Speaker 1: sometimes though, when people get together, they formed this energy
Speaker 1: and you can't quite explain it, but almost like marriage
Speaker 1: or best friend, you know it is, you just connect
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason it works, and it might not
Speaker 1: ever be that way with anybody else, anyone, different combinations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely do we we really we really
Speaker 1: really really did. Um So I stayed in California for
Speaker 1: like six eight months and um did that. So that
Speaker 1: was really therapeutic for me as well. Probably nice to
Speaker 1: be just working on someone else's project, but getting to
Speaker 1: be yourself because obviously are getting really getting knowing know
Speaker 1: each other really well, writing really real stuff well. And
Speaker 1: it's also you could say whatever you wanted because there
Speaker 1: is no box, and so it was really nice to
Speaker 1: be able to and it really stretched me as an
Speaker 1: artist of the honesty that was coming out of him um,
Speaker 1: and it stretched me as a writer. You're like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 1: he had a list Oscar winning actor and he's being
Speaker 1: this honest and this raw and this real to us.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't really even freaking know, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean we were like instant you know, bond. But um So,
Speaker 1: then you know, I did that and that was therapeutic
Speaker 1: and it allowed me to get out of a box
Speaker 1: that I didn't even realize maybe I was putting myself
Speaker 1: in because in the national box it is a little
Speaker 1: especially for female which I've never adhered adhered to do
Speaker 1: and that's why you're going to be a superstar when
Speaker 1: you never when you break through every Oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: well thank you. Um and then I was going freedom.
Speaker 1: You gave me freedom and I could rest but working.
Speaker 1: But like I was, I was flying on somebody else's wings.
Speaker 1: And that allows you to just and that allowed me
Speaker 1: to chill yourself. Yeah, you're still focused, busy. I'm still
Speaker 1: working on you know what I love and you're growing
Speaker 1: and you're growing, you know, And um, so I did that.
Speaker 1: And then how God works it really is. I mean,
Speaker 1: I never thought in my life that I would have
Speaker 1: like you know, but that's a random, huge thing that
Speaker 1: how did you? Again, like all these things are so frank,
Speaker 1: that is so good, Like the Lord has put such
Speaker 1: an amazing you know, favor on my life. I you know,
Speaker 1: I just but you say that even though you've had
Speaker 1: huge heartbreaks, and I think that's why. But I think
Speaker 1: that's why there is favor on your life because you
Speaker 1: choose to see the blessing when really, I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of people are blessed, but they don't see
Speaker 1: their blessings. They get stuck in their burden, and you don't.
Speaker 1: I really and I have to attest that to my
Speaker 1: mom and dad because it's very like my dad would
Speaker 1: always tell me, Um, when someone tells you know, you
Speaker 1: look at them and turn that sucker around to on
Speaker 1: and you figure out another way to do it. And
Speaker 1: that's always what I've done, Like, okay, you've always been
Speaker 1: like I've always been like, oh you said no, you
Speaker 1: just turn it on. Cool. I see you at the top, buddy,
Speaker 1: and figure out, like I will climb over a while.
Speaker 1: I would suck myself in again, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I'll figure out how to get there, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, that's what he's always said to me.
Speaker 1: Like someone tells you know you you turn it around
Speaker 1: and flip it on, and that means you have just
Speaker 1: turned me on, not in that word no, but like
Speaker 1: you flick the switch and I'm gonna show you why.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think, like, um, I even I
Speaker 1: remember resting when when I got dropped and he said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you need to mourn this and you need to take
Speaker 1: a break and blah blah blah blah, and I was like,
Speaker 1: mmmm right, And I told my mom. She was like,
Speaker 1: you are not gonna mourn and take your break. You
Speaker 1: know your ass is gonna be on that phone, Like okay,
Speaker 1: So what's next? Like where are we going? What are
Speaker 1: we doing? You know? So he was like really. So
Speaker 1: I was quiet for about a week and then I
Speaker 1: called him and I was like, I need to keep
Speaker 1: writing and I needed to like I just need to
Speaker 1: keep going going, and I gotta push, you know. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't that I couldn't handle the silence. It was
Speaker 1: that I'm not going to crawl into a hole and
Speaker 1: give up in a disappointment because the Lord is giving
Speaker 1: me a gift and I've been blessed to be able
Speaker 1: to have um success in it, you know, even though
Speaker 1: it's hard and it's bumpy and it sucks, but you've
Speaker 1: been given confirmation, huge confirmation along the way. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is your this is what you're supposed to do. I'm
Speaker 1: God's like, I'm going to make you chisel it because
Speaker 1: it's it's chipping away to get it. You wanted to
Speaker 1: be a rough but you still got a chip off
Speaker 1: some of the dirt. Absolutely get to get there, to
Speaker 1: get there, so you've just been going to chipping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm chipping. I'm chipping away so called chip. Where you are, well,
Speaker 1: if you're in the best place you've ever been, I
Speaker 1: am I do I do. It's um, I just feel
Speaker 1: like even though I don't have a record deal right now,
Speaker 1: I don't even have a publishing deal right now, exciting,
Speaker 1: it is exciting. It's scary, as I'll get out. But
Speaker 1: tell me your new approach to because even though you
Speaker 1: walk into meetings now, it's totally different, and that is
Speaker 1: to be only a woman who has been through the
Speaker 1: fire can have the confidence that you have, Like, tell
Speaker 1: me what you're saying. Well, I've just been like so
Speaker 1: for the last year, I went through a massive heartbreak
Speaker 1: and like couldn't like shake this guy like you went
Speaker 1: through a breakup. I just went through a breakup and
Speaker 1: I couldn't shake them, and you know, blah bla blah blah.
Speaker 1: So I just really now went deep inside and just
Speaker 1: really came out with this new ep of vulnerability, but
Speaker 1: also um, not just being vulnerable, but knowing who I am,
Speaker 1: what I want to say, and like the pictures that
Speaker 1: I've taken and the song. I've done it all on
Speaker 1: my own, which is another confirmation when people are starting
Speaker 1: to reach out and being like oh my god, this
Speaker 1: song or this this, you know, these pictures, this is amazing,
Speaker 1: Like this you know doing it all on your own
Speaker 1: is letting yourself be yourself. Right. So now what I've
Speaker 1: learned is and I kind of always have known this.
Speaker 1: I've always known who I am as an artist and
Speaker 1: as a person, you know what I mean. Um, sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm so confident in who I am. It's like, is
Speaker 1: this bitch arrogant? And I get out and I'm really not.
Speaker 1: I just I know who I am and I standing
Speaker 1: who I am, and and that's amazing it is. And
Speaker 1: I get scared, and I get nervous, and I get
Speaker 1: you know, cry at home, you know, like some mornings,
Speaker 1: I just wake up and the other morning, and then
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I say the But the other morning,
Speaker 1: my mom called and she said, what are you doing? Listen? Well,
Speaker 1: I just got done yelling at God, telling him, telling
Speaker 1: him you know what I expect and my expectations. And
Speaker 1: I said, and I got so into it, Mom that
Speaker 1: I had to apologize. She was dying. I had to say,
Speaker 1: and lord, I mean, this is all coming from my
Speaker 1: good place. I'm just really frustrated. So I'm sorry for
Speaker 1: yelling at you. But this is what I want, you know, why,
Speaker 1: you know, like I have enough character, like I'm ready. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm chipped away, jeez, you know. Um. So anyways, it's true,
Speaker 1: but um, and going through all of that stuff, I've
Speaker 1: walked in being able to say even more confident with
Speaker 1: the the reaction that's come from this EP from people.
Speaker 1: You know, even Jim Katino is setting up meetings on
Speaker 1: my behalf, the guy that sigh me and let me go,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And we've maintained such an
Speaker 1: incredible like Rusty and Jim Contino and Jeff Peterman, my attorney,
Speaker 1: your team, your original They make me cry whenever like
Speaker 1: they talk to me or I mean literally they make
Speaker 1: me cry because I know it makes me cry. Now
Speaker 1: from them, it's just such a place of they want
Speaker 1: you to succeed. They they believe in me. I mean
Speaker 1: the they all. I don't write for Resting anymore and
Speaker 1: I don't obviously not sign of Sony, and they still
Speaker 1: the doors open for me to say, what do you
Speaker 1: think I should do? Well? This music? Is this what
Speaker 1: we'll go here, We'll take you here. It's so incredible.
Speaker 1: So that's so encouraging that now I can walk into
Speaker 1: meetings and say, look, all I want is a team
Speaker 1: that is going to enhance me and not try and
Speaker 1: change me, because I know who I am, I know
Speaker 1: what I want to say, and I got your attention
Speaker 1: from doing this on my own. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna listen and I'm not gonna take wisdom,
Speaker 1: but I need you to like, let me be me
Speaker 1: and enhance me. Don't because if you if you can't,
Speaker 1: and that's in any relationship, even with a husband or
Speaker 1: friends or your boyfriend, like there should not be a change.
Speaker 1: Of course, you make adjustments, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Obviously no one knows everything to mold into remising to
Speaker 1: get better and work together. Who worked together? But you
Speaker 1: know your core? You know, you know your core. And
Speaker 1: when you know your core and you find that husband
Speaker 1: or that best friend or that partner for that team
Speaker 1: that surrounds you and enhances you, you know. Because I
Speaker 1: don't know everything. Shoot, I'm still trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, but I know who I am, and so
Speaker 1: you're not going to compromise. Because if you say every
Speaker 1: time that you have compromised, it hasn't worked. It hasn't worked,
Speaker 1: It hasn't worked. Just um, I don't even remember how
Speaker 1: I said it, but I mean, it's fake. It feels
Speaker 1: fake every time mold into what someone told me, or
Speaker 1: you know, be a little bit softer here, be a
Speaker 1: little bit harder here, or you know, stand this way,
Speaker 1: or you know, wear this or don't wear that, or
Speaker 1: do this. It's always never just it's never been effortless.
Speaker 1: And now because I didn't have anyone telling me what
Speaker 1: to do, which I don't mind being told what to do,
Speaker 1: but I was able to just kind of feel it
Speaker 1: out and stand in my own that it was effortless.
Speaker 1: And then that's when there's when it's effortless. That's when
Speaker 1: people can react because people since desperation and they sense fake,
Speaker 1: they sense fake, you know, and they feel it in
Speaker 1: their gut. And that's all anybody. And that's what's so
Speaker 1: beautiful about music and the gifts that you know, we've
Speaker 1: been given, even you, I mean have been given. I
Speaker 1: mean you really started music started your whole life and
Speaker 1: you know with lipstick, um, yeah, you know, it's led
Speaker 1: you to this, you know, and it's like you always
Speaker 1: just look at that road and those roadblocks and whatever
Speaker 1: that it's just gonna take you, you know somewhere somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Lush you are non negotiable about who you are though
Speaker 1: I have to I mean I have to be and
Speaker 1: and if I'm if, if, if you're if you're not,
Speaker 1: it's just it's not gonna. It may work for a second,
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna. But it's not. It's not going
Speaker 1: to withstand. It's not classic, it's not you know. And
Speaker 1: it was just really awesome to be able to just
Speaker 1: say screw, I'm gonna put your going to walk away
Speaker 1: from a record deal. If someone says I want to
Speaker 1: sign you but you needed this, you're willing to say
Speaker 1: I can't. But because I can't, And not that Sony
Speaker 1: tried to change me or anything yet I didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not. I mean, I'm still sassy as I'll
Speaker 1: get out with that whole record. I mean that is
Speaker 1: all still there, But um, I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more refined. Um. I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more articulated. UM. And I learned in the
Speaker 1: last year. Um, you know, because everyone thinks I'm a badass,
Speaker 1: and I am a bad as I am a badass,
Speaker 1: but also the true definition of what a badasses is
Speaker 1: being able to be vulnerable and say I am not Okay,
Speaker 1: I need I need some help, know, And that's where
Speaker 1: that's the part of Badasst I came to is um
Speaker 1: seeing the beauty and the breakdown and being like, look,
Speaker 1: I will clean your house if you help produces a
Speaker 1: record for me. I will I will cook dinner. You know,
Speaker 1: I will do whatever it takes. You need some you
Speaker 1: need some help. You can't do it. You need a team.
Speaker 1: You need I need a team. You know, you need
Speaker 1: the right team, the right team. You need the right team.
Speaker 1: And you know what does it say teamwork makes a
Speaker 1: dream work? So you need the right team. And I'm
Speaker 1: assembling that now. And the support that Nashville has still
Speaker 1: shown me because they haven't turned their back on me,
Speaker 1: which is really amazing, because that can happen very This
Speaker 1: sounds very fast, like you know, once you're out, like
Speaker 1: moving on, moving on, But they haven't, you know, because
Speaker 1: you have something so special. Thank you. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And I'm just grateful for you know, the Lord, and
Speaker 1: and that I'm getting a second you know, a second chance.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean that people are still taking
Speaker 1: meetings with me and answering my phone calls and not
Speaker 1: like you know how you know how they do right,
Speaker 1: but you're also fearless in yourself right now, which I
Speaker 1: think is the greatest blessing this whole journey. And if
Speaker 1: it brought you to this, how truly Not to be cheesy,
Speaker 1: but like what a blessing I mean it is. And
Speaker 1: I always say being dropped from Sony was a massive blessing,
Speaker 1: you know, because it gave me a platform um to learn.
Speaker 1: It was, you know as boot camp and and now
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the final round. Okay, to wrap up.
Speaker 1: I can talk to you forever, honestly, Lea, You're so inspirational.
Speaker 1: I'm so impressive where you are. What's your EP calls
Speaker 1: so people can go get it. It's just self entitled
Speaker 1: Lea Turner and it's on iTunes, Spotify, and then the
Speaker 1: video just premiered on CMT World Premier. So Leslie Fram
Speaker 1: has been like, what's your single? Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: so amazing, Sleep you off, Sleep you off. Leslie Fram,
Speaker 1: who runsing has the biggest advocate for women. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's insane. She's insane. So yeah, that's it. And then
Speaker 1: I have a show at the basement um like an
Speaker 1: EP release, which is really scary because I'm doing it
Speaker 1: out by myself. It's gonna be. But the basement January fifteen,
Speaker 1: six o'clock, not January February, February February. There's those numbers,
Speaker 1: you know. So the day after BALI February fifteen, Basement East,
Speaker 1: Basic basement, because I wanted to feel that intimate. Yes,
Speaker 1: it just felt really good to intimate, vulnerable, the basement, intimate.
Speaker 1: Leah is letting it all hang out, yeah, but still
Speaker 1: being brave. You know, there's bravery in being intimate. So anyways,
Speaker 1: being being intimate is the most brave thing it is.
Speaker 1: It's scary as hell, though, but it's gonna be. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be such an exciting year. I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to see how it all comes together because I know
Speaker 1: now that you have committed to yourself and you've given
Speaker 1: it up to the higher power. You're also like picky
Speaker 1: about who you're picking on your team, Like God is
Speaker 1: going to symble something great for you this year. I
Speaker 1: cannot wait not to receive it. I received it hands
Speaker 1: in the air, but from now to the Lord's ears,
Speaker 1: I received it. So this whole thing has been inspirational.
Speaker 1: But I wrap every interview with leave your light. So
Speaker 1: just leave inspiration things, something that you wish you would
Speaker 1: have known when you were maybe that you wish you
Speaker 1: would have known now that you just learned, or that
Speaker 1: you told your younger self, or something you've learned about
Speaker 1: the struggle, or just some inspiration to share with all
Speaker 1: those people. Yeah, all y'all listening. UM, I think it's
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of covered it, and it's really
Speaker 1: just being a badass or somebody that goes out there
Speaker 1: and and fights and pushes and never gives up, never
Speaker 1: give up one but to um, it's okay to say
Speaker 1: I'm not okay, and in that that's the most badass
Speaker 1: thing that you can do. Um, And that's the most
Speaker 1: brave thing that you can do, to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm scared, but I'm gonna do it because God's got
Speaker 1: me and so I don't know, be a vulnerable badass.
Speaker 1: Lantern dropped the vine. Oh my gosh, this is your year.
Speaker 1: You're amazing. Thank you so much, Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: How freaking inspiring is Leah Turner. I am so excited
Speaker 1: to see her future and music where she ends up.
Speaker 1: Because she is on her path. She has figured out
Speaker 1: who she is and this is going to be an
Speaker 1: epic year for her. So excited, loved having her join
Speaker 1: me and no, she just lit you up inside. You'll
Speaker 1: be watching for her music. Leah Turner Everywhere two eighteen.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining, Love you guys, Peace,