1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson, and this is Well Steelers Audio Network, 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Pittsburgh. And well, just a little different here, Matt. 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: We're now no longer out at the Saint Bencent College 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: from now in studio here. 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: I haven't been here forever. Yeah, I almost forgot how 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: to get here. And we're in a different studio too, 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: I mean the two thousand times and now Yeah, we're 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 3: big time in it. Yeah, twenty twenty four seasons upon 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: us and we're coming in like gangbusters. So, uh, game 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: boys don't have anything to talk about, right, right exactly. 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: The game wasn't super exciting, but there's some good stuff 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: to take away from it as well. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Good stuff, bad stuff. Yeah, stuff that you want to 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: see get cleaned up, still, no doubt. First of all, 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: let's let's start. The Steelers lose their pre second preseason 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: game nine to three to the Buffalo Bill Saturday night. Obviously, 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: everybody is upset with where the offense or how the 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: offense looked as a whole. 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: Sure, and I get it. 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: I just cautioned people that last year just time. Hey, 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: we were among the people looking at the r cycles 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: the first team offense. Five possessions, five touchdowns looks like clockwork. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: You know, everything's running like clockwork. And then it takes 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: them like six games to get five touchdowns in the 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: regular season, right, You know, things happen. You don't know 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: what exactly what the team was working on in the 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: particular game. It's it's much like preseason baseball to a 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: certain degree, where you might have a pitcher out there. 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Maybe he's primarily a fastball pitcher, but he's working on 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: a little change up in this game. So he comes 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: out and he throws the change up forty percent of 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: the time, when typically he would throw ten percent of 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: the time. 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: As you're saying, and the hitters picked up pretty quick. 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure too. Yeah, and here it comes to change 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: up and they did it into the seats. I think 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: there is definitely some of that, And frankly, I'm not 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: trying to like massage over what we saw. It wasn't great. 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: I mean, the protection in particular was poor. The offense 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: wasn't great. But this game to me is very much 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: a glass half empty, glass half full situation. Like the 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: punt team was great, the defense was great, the points 47 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: scored was bad. You know, I mean, you know. And 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: there's a big thing I kept going back with on 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: the postgame show is, as you know, in any game, 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: turnover margins a huge deal. And you can look at 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: this and be like, oh, well, Steeters got that interception, 52 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: they're plus one. You missed a field goal, that's the 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 3: same thing as a turnover, and you missed three fourth 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: down conversions, so your mind is three basically in turnover differential. 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: The way I look at it, you're not gonna win 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: any game that way. 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: And realistically, you know, it's if it's a regular season game, 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: you probably kicked the field goal, no situation, they probably 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: played it. Would you feel better about this game if 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: the Steelers won at twelve to nine or fifteen to nine, 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: they where I'm going, I mean, not much difference. It's 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: a preseason game. 63 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: It's a preseason game, and there was a lot of good. 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: There was probably more bad than good. But the theme 65 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: I'm getting with this league right now is there's a 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: couple of things are I think preseason football is. 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: Really badly awful. It's really bad off watch every game. 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: It's really horrendous. Like the Packers are. Everyone's super psyched 69 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: about the Packers. I'm really psyched about the Packers. They 70 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: were like the worst team I've seen all year, you know, 71 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: and they rested a lot of their guys. 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: And the other thing that I'm starting to get keened 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: int on a little bit is after watching that joint 74 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: practice that was as physical as a game. It was 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 3: by far their best and most physical practice of the year, 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: of course, and then they have to play a game 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: two days later, you know, like it's almost like worse 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: than playing a Thursday night game on the road that quickly, 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: I mean, and in the product that's suffer for both teams. 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: I thought Russell Wilson brought up a good point in 81 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: his post game when he talked about the Thursday practice. 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: I would have felt much differently about the game if 83 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: I hadn't seen that practice. Me too, well, the Steelers 84 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: not only went out and held their own I thought 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: they got the better of a lot of the situation. 86 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: A lot of what we saw. Yeah, yeah, I thought 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: Josh Allen was the best player out there and other 88 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: than that, I thought the Steelers did really really well 89 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: in that practice and had a lot of positives to 90 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: take away and should be happy with it. And then 91 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: they come back the next day or two days later, 92 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: and both offensive lines were really bad, you know, I mean, 93 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: and to me, that adds the. 94 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: Going hard on that Thursday. 95 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: They're going hard in that practice, and then those linemen 96 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: have to come back and they can't rotate out. I mean, 97 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: both those lines looked terrible, and you know, I think 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: that in any situation like that, it's really going to 99 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: favor the defense. Yeah, they can bring in waves, and 100 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: they're also the better athletes. 101 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I didn't read too much into the game. Yes, 102 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: we would like it to look better. There's no other 103 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: fans or butts about it, right. But again, if I 104 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: hadn't seen the Thursday practice, if I hadn't been there 105 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: to visually, to be to be able to watch that 106 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: myself with my own two eyes and not just read 107 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: accounts of it, sure I would feel a lot worse 108 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: about what I saw. I would feel worse about the 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: Steelers had the ball. Yeah, I would feel worse about 110 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: what I saw if I hadn't. If the Steelers' offense 111 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: had looked that bad throughout all their training camp practices, 112 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: I would be like, oh, this offense is in trouble. 113 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: Or if Broderick Jones hadn't blocked anybody in a month, 114 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: you know, like all of a sudden. I mean, he 115 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: was fine against Rousseaux and the practices they did well. 116 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: They did one on ones against one another, they did 117 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: team against one another. He and I think Rousseau is 118 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: a great young player. I mean him and had Oliver 119 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: to me or were the stars of this game. And 120 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: they both are first round picks that are looking like 121 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: first round picks. But by no means watching that practice 122 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: that I think, boy, this Steeler offense can't hang with 123 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: their front or this defense overall, you know, And that 124 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: was a lot of situational stuff, and they didn't play 125 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: well in this game. They absolutely didn't. But overall, I 126 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: don't think the world's fault. You know, this guy is falling. No, 127 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: I don't know they're crazy. 128 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I've seen too much already to just say, oh, 129 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: this is going to be bad. Counterwhit, you know, to 130 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: counter that. There were times in last year's camp, Yeah, 131 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: when I watched the offense, I'm like boy, they're really 132 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: struggling to struggling. Yeah, it's not like it's always even Yeah, 133 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: all right, I mean there's definitely the defense was better 134 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: in the offense training camp last year. 135 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, clear yeah, clearly. 136 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: And it started that way early in camp this year. 137 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: But the offense started winning more and more and more 138 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: against what we think is going to be a pretty 139 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: good defense. Oh, I think so, yeah, especially front. I 140 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: mean I think that D line's really good. You're talking 141 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: about Bills. 142 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, back seven has some questions with their injuries 143 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: and things, but I thought that front. I thought both 144 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: D lines ruled the day, you know, and and I 145 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: also thought it was a much better corner day by 146 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: the Steelers. So I didn't like how their corners played 147 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: against Texans receivers who were better than the Bills receivers, 148 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: but I thought the D line and the corners were 149 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: better than they've been at any point this year. I 150 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 3: don't know how you evaluate Russell Wilson. I mean, of course, 151 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: the whole planet's like pay. 152 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: Her Well fields is out there against third and fourth 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: team guys too. 154 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the best. It was kind of almost 155 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: like Josh Allen at that Joy practice where he's in 156 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: a situation to succeed against backups and he should be 157 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: the best player in the field and late in this 158 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: guy that field. 159 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: And that's really you know, like I'm watching, for example, 160 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: Ryan Watts in the fourth quarter of that he's making 161 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: plays and I'm like, well, he's good. That's good because 162 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: he's obviously the best guy amongst the not great, amongst 163 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: the great. That's what you want. You want that guy 164 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: to stand out in those kind of situations. He's a 165 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: great example because I think he's keep getting better and 166 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: better and he is standing out against the two's. 167 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: Now can he handle the one right? Right? 168 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: Right? 169 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: Right? 170 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: So, I mean, that's what you want to see from 171 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: from a young player. 172 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: Even like Benton and le and her Big and all 173 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: those dudes were clearly getting the better of even ones, 174 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: you know, and so I thought that was encouraging. I 175 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, again, another question I got a 176 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: lot in the postgame show is this offense looks exactly 177 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: like last year. So I'm like, it's not going to 178 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: look anything like that. No, they played a lot of 179 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: eleven in this game. That's not going to be their norm. 180 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: For whatever reason, they must have been working on it. 181 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Again, I don't know what you're working on on your 182 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: change up. 183 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, right right. It's a really good example because we 184 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: didn't see as much motion, we didn't see as much 185 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: play action, we didn't see. 186 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: A lot of multiple tight ends, right right right. 187 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: I mean the stuff that they've been practicing all summer. 188 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: If you just watched that game, you might be like, 189 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: this does look a lot like last year. I don't 190 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: see the big changes. Well you will. 191 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: Again, that's not what we saw consistently a training camp 192 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: and even in the joint practice. So again I'm not 193 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: going to read too much into any of that. And 194 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: I would also say this, because you see a lot 195 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: of stuff out there. This this rookie quarterback looks great, 196 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: This one's doing this, this one's doing that. You set 197 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: your rookie quarterbacks up in the preseason. 198 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: Oh with layups? 199 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. 200 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: Just just get this kid confident. Yeah, I mean, so 201 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: it looks like he belongs. And even like Caleb Williams, 202 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: Cayleb Williams played three or four series and they did nothing, 203 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: and the offense looked terrible and he wasn't playing in 204 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: rhythm or instructure. And then the last series he did 205 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: all kinds of amazing things because he's super talented and 206 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: that's great, but I'm sure his quarterback coach and offensive 207 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: coordinator didn't give him an eight plus grade because he 208 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: pulled some crazy stuff out with his athleticism, because he 209 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: was missing open throws and check downs and things like 210 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: that that you gotta make back to the Steelers. Oh though, too, 211 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: I wonder how many snaps this season. I mean, from 212 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: the day training camp open til today, have their best 213 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: eleven offensive players been in the field together. And it's 214 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: a new offense, you know, like Wilson missed a lot 215 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: of time. They've been shuffling some offensive linemen, including Jones, 216 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: which I think is awful difficult on him. Yeah, I mean, 217 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 3: there hasn't been a lot of reps where the best 218 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: guys have been out there together a lot, you know, 219 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: and that's coming. 220 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. So again, I'm not going to get overly concerned 221 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: now because of the way they played in this game. 222 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised for Mike Tomlin to come out 223 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: and say, hey, we're going to play the starters three 224 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: or four series against against Detroit on on Saturday. 225 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I would do that. Yeah, I mean 226 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: would you do with nausey now with the Warren news 227 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: though the old line, you have to. 228 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing. Here's the thing about the Jalen 229 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: Warren stuff. So I wrote a big piece on Jalen. 230 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: Would see more Patterson this upcoming game? Yeah, for sure. 231 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: I wrote a big piece on Jalen last two years 232 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: ago for Steelers dot Com during his rookie year and 233 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: talked to his high school coach. In his high school 234 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: coach told me that Jalen's senior year in high school, 235 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: he injured his hamstring very early in the year, like 236 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: second game of the year, and so every after every 237 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: game on Friday, Jalen could barely walk. 238 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay by Monday through. 239 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, by Monday or Tuesday, Jalen's riding a bike, but 240 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: he still doesn't look like he can play. By Friday, 241 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: he'd go out and play again and then just repeat 242 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: the process. 243 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: Okay, he is one of those. 244 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: He's a tough sob. Yeah, yeah, he said, if you, 245 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: he said, we had no idea from week to week 246 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: if Jalen was gonna play anyone out in rush for 247 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: two thousand yards. 248 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who knows. Injuries are always hard to 249 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: comment on we know we're not gonna see him the 250 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: rest of them. 251 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: No, there's no reason, but three weeks, three weeks from 252 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: now with a hamstring, I expect Jalen Moore and to 253 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: be fine. 254 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: You think he'll be there for week one? 255 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 256 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, good? But would you hesitate to play 257 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: Nause because of that in this game? 258 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: I haven't seen enough a Nause in this preseason to say, Okay, 259 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: he's ready to go. 260 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: I like what he's done a lot. Yeah, he has 261 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: not a lot of touches, but yeah. 262 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily need to see him. 263 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I might play Patterson a lot. 264 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: And the other guys have been fine. 265 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: The other guys are okay too. Yeah. I mean I 266 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 3: assume war will be back by then too. So I 267 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: think i'd play Wilson, I'd play Pickings, I'd play the 268 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: whole first O line and probably just sitt an Augy. Yeah, 269 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: and I might even it might be one series if 270 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: it's good. It might take two or three until it's good, 271 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: you know, But that's how I would handle it. I 272 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: think there's like Wilson in the game a little bit more. 273 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: You'd like to see Roderick Jones. Yeah, bounce back. Yeah. 274 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: I'm not making excuses for him either. But I remember 275 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: when we were watching seven Shots when he injured that elbow, 276 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: my heart dropped. I'm like, he might be off of 277 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: the year. That was bad looking, and he was back 278 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: in there really, really quick. And people don't know this 279 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: he is from what I've been told, and it's apparent 280 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: just being around the team that he kind of wants 281 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: to be the new pouncy in that room, you know, 282 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: the bad dude in the room. I was gonna say 283 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: a different word that he is gonna play through anything. 284 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: It's gonna be the toughest guy around. Like, I bet 285 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: that's bothering him a lot. And at right tackle that's 286 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: his outside the outside, and people are gonna attack it 287 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: like crazy, you know. 288 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's just a fact. I mean, 289 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: by by week ten, no one's healthy anyway. I mean, 290 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: like and deals with injuries and whatnot. But I think 291 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: it's bothering him a lot. 292 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sure seems that way. He had a bad game. 293 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: You don't And that's that's the thing. If this had 294 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 2: been something that you'd see time and time again, right right, 295 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: You're like, oh boy, they're in trouble there. Yeah, he's 296 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: a bust. I mean, I've heard that already wasted first 297 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: round pick. Come on, man, I mean, far be it 298 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: from fans to overreact anyway, right, of course, worst oh 299 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: line coach ever, they're ruining them. 300 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: They switch them from left tackle to right. How's this 301 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: young man ever gonna survive? He's been doing quite well 302 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: except for five reps against Greg Russo, so we'll see. 303 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he's not happy with this game either. 304 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: No, and and you know there's now you know, the 305 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: personal pride sets in. You know, he sees all the 306 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: video out there, and obviously I'm sure you know when 307 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: the team reviewed the video, that was part of it, 308 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: watching him get hip tossed and yeah, look like he 309 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: was playing against Reggie White. 310 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: I don't know how much you watched the first sack 311 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: he gave up, which was definitely on him, but they 312 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 3: were setting up a screen. Yeah, and I think it 313 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: was more about his timing than getting beat. 314 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 315 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: The second one was ugly. Second one. 316 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: The second one was the one that you see out 317 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: there where he got he got hip tossed. Yeah, the 318 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: first one, I'm with you, he saw Najie Harris kind 319 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: of give a little chip there, and he was supposed 320 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: to leak out and the. 321 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: Timing was miscommunication, timing issues where I got him, you 322 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: got him, and that's and it was a really good 323 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: football play by Rousseau there too, the arms right right, 324 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: so they both were wrong. But really it was the 325 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: one play where I went, wow, that was shocking. Yeah, 326 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: the second sack. 327 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. I didn't like seeing him kind of 328 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: get beat for a pressure later too against the kid 329 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: from Troy. 330 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, but oh he didn't have a great game. 331 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: He just did. He didn't. There's no ifans or butts 332 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: about it. But I am not he's the only culprit either, No, right, no, 333 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: for sure, I did like what I saw Zach Frazier. 334 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I played a lot of snaps. The job's his. 335 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: I mean I think we know that now. I'm sure 336 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: our listeners know by now that Herbig's going to be 337 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: out for a while. Yle After the game, Tomon mentioned 338 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: that he's seen in the second opinion, But I haven't 339 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: heard any news since then. But that doesn't sound great. 340 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: But I think Fraser was taking that job either way, 341 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah he was. Yeah, I mean that was trending that 342 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: way in a big way before the injury. And I 343 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: think Herbert's a good player, but that's an injury they 344 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: can with stand. I mean between Anderson, who actually played 345 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: some tackle in this game, McCormick, who I think is 346 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: playing quite well, Fraser, the two guards you have, I 347 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: think you can handle an into your line injury. Yeah, yeah, 348 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: for sure, Just hoping that they don't compound. 349 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: That's what you don't want to see happen, which is 350 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: what happened to him last year at times, because you 351 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: know we're talking about, oh the safety depth is really good, 352 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: then it's not. 353 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: I mean they're they've been remarkably healthy at the line 354 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: the last two seasons, like more so than any team 355 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: in the league. Like if heaven forbid, something comes out 356 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: like Jones's elbows, season endy, like, oh that would be 357 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: a probably, know what I mean, Like one more would 358 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: be a problem, you know, But for now, I think 359 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: they can handle it. 360 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: Not to touch anything that's out there, No, No, I totally 361 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: made it up right, just pun out there before somebody 362 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: runs with it. 363 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: That now he's gone. 364 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: You're just making a supposition there. Anyways, let's get to 365 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 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I am Dale Lolly here with 374 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and it is the Drive on Steelers 375 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: Audio Network and Fox Sports Pittsburgh nine seventy and Matt, 376 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't all awful now, as you alluded to in 377 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: the previous segment. In that game Steelers defense, it's. 378 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: Lying around, playing well, controlling the line of scrimmage. 379 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: I mean we still haven't seen TJ. Watt, Alex high 380 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: Smith or Cam Hayward in this preseason. 381 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've done really really well without them, and 382 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 3: the guys behind them are getting a lot of reps. 383 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: I was shocked, you know, just sticking with the outside 384 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: linebacker spot. I mean, her Big played really well, and 385 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: he does every time he comes out there. It seems like, 386 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like no matter what his snap 387 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: count is, he makes a. 388 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: Play, there's something happening. 389 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you feel his impact. Ever since he 390 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: got drafted, Moon didn't play much, which I didn't quite understand. 391 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: But I think they're still trying to churn that other 392 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: outside linebacker spot and see what they have. But the 393 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: D line all of a sudden, with Lowry back in 394 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: the mix and Adams and Benton and og Ogjo. 395 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: Play played great. Yeah. 396 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think louder Milk's in trouble. And you know, 397 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: I think that D line is in real good shape 398 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 3: right now. 399 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: They seem to still like louder Milk quite a bit. 400 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: More than I do, I think, to be honest. 401 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: I think I think louder Milk's a guy that just 402 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: his assignment sound mm hm, and so they like that, 403 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: like he does what he's supposed to do. 404 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 3: And there's value in that there. 405 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: There is right at the same time, you'd like to 406 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: see some plays there, some more plays and sometimes he 407 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: plays too high too with this, you know, his style 408 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: of strange body type. 409 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: He's tall, he's got that like the Forest Buckner. That's 410 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: what makes Buckner and Klass Campbell so rare is they 411 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: don't play high even though they're that type of long, 412 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: you know, big basketball type of build, you know, but 413 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 3: somebody's gotta be the odd man out in the defront. 414 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: Defensive front looks great. What if you had T J. 415 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: Watt that game, you know what I mean? 416 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: Or good lord? Yeah, exactly, Imith plays exactly exactly. 417 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: I think the off ball linebackers are in a really 418 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: good spot to Mark Robinson made more plays, you know, yeah, 419 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: he needs to on special teams and defense, there was 420 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 3: a series where Davis the rookie was running down their 421 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: throat and other than that, I have a hard time 422 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: nitpicking the defense at all. And by the way, I 423 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: like Ray Davis a lot. A couple of guys on 424 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: the Bills. I'm like, I really like that. 425 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. Liked him in and you know 426 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: that came in at the beginning in the third quarter. Yeah, 427 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: at that point, you've you've got guys out there who 428 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: were be working for Amazon or something like that soon. So, uh, 429 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: not a free plug for Amazon, but you know that 430 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: the Yeah, they they might be hiring some people. 431 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're doing all right though. Yeah, but 432 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 3: overall I thought the defense was great. I mean, again, 433 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: we mentioned in the first segment. I thought it was 434 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 3: a much better corner day. Yeah, and again the receivers 435 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: aren't as good. I like Darius Rush might be Rush 436 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: separating a little bit, just say the same thing. Yeah, 437 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 3: I thought the exact same thing, that Rush might be 438 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: someone you can count on now, you know. Yeah, I 439 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 3: thought that he passed that test. I might play him 440 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: like the whole game to see what he could do, 441 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: you know. 442 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, against some better receipt I don't know what, you know, 443 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: we don't know what Detroit's going to do this week. 444 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: I don't know what the league's gonna do. I mean, 445 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: the league is so hard to understand or analyze. In 446 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: the preseason. You watch these teams. They don't play anybody, 447 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: and Michael Penix didn't play, Like, what are you thinking of? 448 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 449 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: Let's talk about that just for a secon. Okay, they're 450 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: the opening the opponent. Like picking him is a little odd, 451 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: but okay, they love him apparently they adore him. That's great. 452 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: And he played well in his first first preseason game. Actually, 453 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: all these rookie quarterbacks have played pretty well. They said 454 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: they saw enough of him, you know, like, we're done. 455 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: He's good. He's not gonna play next week either. My 456 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 3: immediate thought was, are they saving him for week one 457 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: because Cousins isn't ready yet? That's a possibility, Like is 458 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: there's more to this? 459 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: So we don't know, but you would think if you 460 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: were doing that, you'd want to see more of I 461 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: would want to I can't understand any logic why you 462 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't play a first round quarterback, especially if he's a backup. 463 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you're expecting him not to unless you're, you know, 464 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: going into this, you sign Cousins all this money, You're 465 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: expecting Cousins to be your starter. 466 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: Right. 467 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: Therefore, Daniels isn't gonna play all season long. 468 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: And we just saw JJ McCarthy get hurt because that 469 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: scared them off. If it does, what are we doing 470 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 3: on here? I mean, it's just football. People get hurt. 471 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: You can't live that way. They also have case Keenum. 472 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: I mean, were they showcasing him for a trade or something? 473 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: What are you gonna get for him? A seventh round pick? 474 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: Like I just didn't stand it, and I just wanted 475 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: to throw it out there, like is there some lodge? 476 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just trying to think like they do, 477 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: and to me, maybe Cousins isn't going to be ready 478 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: for Week one. I mean, I'm just guessing, because otherwise 479 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't understand that he's. 480 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: Not going to play the entire preseason. He was just 481 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: cleared for contact. What last week? I think I think 482 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: I call him Daniels. Obviously it's not Daniels. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 483 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: But I don't get a decision. Yeah, I don't get it. 484 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: But I'm back to Steelers. 485 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure we talked about that 486 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: Atlanta thing, because I just don't understand what on earth 487 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: you're thinking without playing your first round pick. Yeah, that's shocking. 488 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: That's what he should be doing, you know, right right? 489 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: You think you want to see as much of him 490 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: in the preseason as possible. 491 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: I played the whole game as opposed to zero. 492 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I think the defense as a whole, 493 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: I feel I feel a lot better about what they've 494 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: got there now. I still think that they're maybe searching 495 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: a little bit for that nickel corner spot. We saw 496 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: Thomas Graham, yeah, get the shot there. We also saw 497 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: some more big nickel in this game. 498 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I think that's a one way of getting 499 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: around it. Yeah, and those three or three safeties, all 500 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: of whom are capable out of the slot. They didn't 501 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: play their number one slot, Beanie Bishop. I don't think 502 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: that's a bad injury from what I understand, And I 503 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: think if he was, if it was week one, he'd 504 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: been the starting slot, you know. But I think they're 505 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 3: a little well, they're very thin there and slightly desperate 506 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: where we better keep him out because he's kind of 507 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: the best we got at the moment, you know. Yeah, 508 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: that's a little bit of a concern about. 509 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: I still think that could change between now and the 510 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: time that they line up against the Falcons. I wouldn't 511 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: be surprised if they take a shot at somebody who 512 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: gets cut loose. 513 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: There'll be a lot of veterans out there, maybe even 514 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: one with gunner experience too. That looked a little. 515 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 2: Better, a little bit better. 516 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Fitzpatrick I think has a chance to make 517 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: the team. Played a lot of receiver, but I don't 518 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: love him as a gunner or receiver. 519 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: No, wats is pretty good. 520 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one of the answers at least, 521 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 3: So that's a start. 522 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: Hey, if you have one gunner, you can work around that. 523 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you need you can live without a great 524 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: second one. 525 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I think the punt team was great. Yeah, 526 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: And the punter is great and the punt team was outstanding. Yeah. 527 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: So no, I think there's a lot of positives. And 528 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: back to the defense. You know, they were shuffling Roberts 529 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: and Wilson in and out and different packages, and you know, 530 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: Wilson looked like more the coverage guy. Roberts looked like 531 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: more the hitter type and did bring a defensive lineman 532 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: out with him and bring you know, the dime package in. 533 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: I think Trice played a pretty decent game as well. Uh, 534 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: Watts in general, I think is starting to be someone 535 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: you can look forward to the future of. Maybe he's 536 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 3: a defensive back for this team too, you know, so 537 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 3: we'll see. But I think the defense is a pretty 538 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: good spot. 539 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when I look at that defense, it 540 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: looks deeper and presumably what you would think would be 541 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: better than last year. But again, we still have the 542 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: seeing Cam Hayward out there. He's the one that's like 543 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: the biggest wildcard to be in whole team. Like, I 544 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: don't feel like as an analyst, I know if he's 545 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: better or worse than last season. Yet, well, I feel 546 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: like I know he's going to be better than what 547 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: he was last season. Yeah, when he played on one 548 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: leg for the entire year. 549 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 3: I guess I didn't phrase that the way I liked. 550 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 3: Is he going to be back to being camp? We 551 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 3: haven't seen. He hasn't done much of camp. I would 552 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: never play him the preseason anyway, but I'm excited to 553 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: watch him week one, week two and be like, if 554 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: he is back. 555 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: If he's let's say, eighty five percent of what he 556 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: was not last year, he was one of the better 557 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: players in the league. 558 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeyeah. 559 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm fine with it because 560 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: the other guys have taken a step up around him. 561 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've been hoping for this for a while. 562 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: But if his snapcount can go down by twenty percent 563 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: and he can just dedicate himself to know certain situations 564 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: or deep in the games or whatever it is, you're 565 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: gonna get a lot out of him. I still think 566 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: he's like the biggest wild card. 567 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: On the team. I feel pretty good about that being 568 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: able to happen, though, because. 569 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: That was a trust him as a player too, you know. 570 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his style of play yeah, yeah, but I 571 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: just feel better about it as a whole based on 572 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: you know, how some of the guys behind him right 573 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: have played in this preseason. I mean, you know, le 574 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: Al and Montrevius Adams. 575 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: Are good players, are good football players. 576 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: Like you gotta find ways they had in the one 577 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: sub package, le Al standing up on the outside like 578 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: a true. 579 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: Edge stand up two point stands. Say, I noticed that too, Yeah, 580 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: and he can do it. 581 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 582 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if I want him banging between the 583 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: guards sixty snaps a game. I mean, he's leader, and 584 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: he's a different package. 585 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: Why not. 586 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and twists and stunts and things like that. And 587 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 3: I think we know Lowry's a solid NFL player too. 588 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean he's new to the mix. But besides Alan 589 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: and Curtis Samuel, that was their ones and that's a 590 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: pretty good line. It's a good running game. You know, 591 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: Kincaid was out there, and you know there's there's starters 592 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: all except for Samuel and Alan, And of course it 593 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: would be different with Alan to vers Traubisky, and Trabisky 594 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: might be getting worse by the way. 595 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: I'm not picking on because he's gone, but man, I 596 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: mean he is struggling, but I mean the front was 597 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: the guys who'd play against you know, in week one, Yeah, 598 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: and the Steelers D did really, really well. 599 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: Again we said to start the show. D line ruled 600 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: the day on both sides. And I do think the 601 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: joint practice had something to do with that, and you 602 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: know the fact they could stay fresher and or better 603 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: athletes to begin with. But for some reason, your nation's 604 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: only seeing one side of that. 605 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: You know, they're saying, yeah, you know, I mean, that's 606 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: kind of harp on it. 607 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: But three points, I get it. 608 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, three points or three points? And again, would you 609 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: feel better about it if they kicked the field goals 610 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: and win twelve nine and aren't working on Probably not 611 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 2: right right? 612 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: And frankly, if I were Bills fans, I wouldn't be 613 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: happy with that game at all, you know, like, oh 614 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: out of defense. I mean it's same thing though, like 615 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be like, man, we were a much better 616 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: team or that was a great one of the Super Bowl. 617 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: Super Bowl now nothing to it. I mean again, the 618 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: joint practices were better. 619 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then you know, I get it, that's 620 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: one thing that you know, the general public didn't see. 621 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 2: But again I thought Wilson was right to bring that up. 622 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: Is like, hey, look, you know, I would feel much 623 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: worse about this if if we hadn't looked better in 624 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: our regular practices and then the joint practice. We looked 625 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: much better than what we put out there tonight. 626 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't have to take our word for 627 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 3: it on that one. But that was at least an 628 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 3: even battle, if not the Steelers being the better team 629 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: in really situational football stuff, you know, stuff that they 630 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: really wanted to practice with Josh Allen playing, with Josh 631 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: Allen playing, and TJ. Watt and guys like that still 632 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: didn't Particula didn't play in that one. Yeah, right, right, 633 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: So again, don't go crazy over it. I really didn't 634 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: think the offense was schemed up in any way. I 635 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: was a little shocked how schemed up the Bills d 636 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: was too. Like they had a seven man pressure to 637 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: go out, you know, like they did some things that 638 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: were not necessarily schemed up for the Steelers, but they 639 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 3: threw a lot at you. 640 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: Some things that you wouldn't necessarily normally show in a 641 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: preseason game. 642 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they were working on the finer points 643 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: of the defense, and I was actually listening to podcast 644 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: on the way here, and someone said something along the 645 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: lines of McDermott was really focused on this defense to 646 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: be as aggressive as possible, and he's going to reward 647 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: them by letting them sit from now until. You know, 648 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: if if you guys execute the stuff we're trying to 649 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: do at a high level, which they did, you're off 650 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 3: until week one, you know, and we don't want anyone 651 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: else get hurt. I mean, their linebacker safety situation is 652 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 3: a little frightening too, you know. 653 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so again, you know, we'll see how it 654 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: looks against Detroit on on Saturday. But even at that, 655 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna overreact it, Like I don't. I still 656 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: don't expect to see TJ. Watt out there. I don't 657 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: expect to see high Smith out there. I don't expect 658 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: to see Hayward out there. 659 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 3: Nope, nope. I mean, and again, if the offense, if 660 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: the one offense plays, it might be a series, might 661 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: be a couple, you know, Like. 662 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: Would you feel better about this if if Russell Wilson 663 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: the starting lines out there, you know, George Pickens is 664 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: out there, Harris is out there, the Steelers go down 665 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: to score a touchdown, all everything's. 666 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: Fixed against the Lions. Two's yeah, you know, like I 667 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: bet the Lions don't play anybody either, probably not. I 668 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: mean again, this is not Steelers specific, but as usual, 669 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: I get super psyched. Let's put it on a game, 670 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: you know, and like nobody's playing, or one team has 671 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: all their ones in, the other ones has all their 672 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: backups in. Like yeah, really really rough. And I think 673 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: the world knows eighteen games and two preseason games is 674 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: coming because. 675 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: It's kind of already getting there. It's kind of already 676 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: been there. 677 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: I mean, like Sean mcvagh didn't even coach the Rams 678 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: this week. He was in the booth. I guess Shanahan 679 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: let one of his offensive guys call the plays. 680 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: Well, they do, so that happens a lot in the preseason, 681 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: where the head coach will or the offensive coordinator will 682 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: let somebody else call the game, just as hey, let's 683 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: see how you do it this in case something chance 684 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: you get. I mean, yeah, people don't think about that, 685 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: but there's no minor leagues for play calling. You know, 686 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: if you're on a team with Andy Reid or Shanahan 687 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: or somebody like that, you're the offensive coordinator, you can 688 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: tribute to the game plan. You might be in Andy's 689 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: ear going, man, we got to run outside zone more 690 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: or whatever, but you're not a little different and having 691 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: you get the plays out. I know the Steelers did that, 692 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: you know previously, you know with some of their coordinators, 693 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: Hey let this guy call this game. 694 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 3: And with respect all those assistant coaches. It just shows 695 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: that this is not the finished product. I mean, preseason 696 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: football is not that important, to be honest with it 697 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: really isn't the Only thing that is important is getting 698 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: out with injury free. Yeah, that's the biggest thing. It's important. 699 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: I guess we should probably cover that. I mean, there's 700 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: Warren's we know about. Yeah, Peyton Wilson left the game 701 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: with potential concussion. 702 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: I saw him on the field afterwards talking with some 703 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: family and stuff. So it is a concussion. It's not 704 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: something that's super serious. And they held a couple of 705 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: dudes out, but all in all they're in decent shape. Yeah, 706 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: I mean her big we knew going into the game. 707 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: Anthony have Rett had a Hampstead. 708 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: Was top of my head. That left the game. 709 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: There was three I think, Yeah, that was it. Okay, 710 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: So I mean nothing, I think season ending coming out 711 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: of any of the preseason games, which is what you want. 712 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: It's a good story, that's what you want. He is 713 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale. Lallie, you're listening to The 714 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network and nine to 715 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: seventy am. Fox Sports Pittsburgh're gonna take a break. We'll 716 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: be back with more right after this. 717 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: We believe Black and Gold. 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He is the 733 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: Matt Williams and this is to drive on the Steelers 734 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: Audio network and met some news and notes around the league. Yeah, 735 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: happening on Monday here because everybody has now played their 736 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: second to Buss. Yeah, everybody has at least two. A 737 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 2: couple of teams have three. Did you see Anthony McFarlane 738 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: signing with the Miami Dolphins. I always had. 739 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: Hope for him, yeah, I mean I thought he was 740 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: an explosive player, highly recruited, you know, did some things 741 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: in college. I liked the draft pick when it happened, 742 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: and never just really clicked for him here. 743 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: Always kept getting hurt. 744 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: I always kept getting hurt, and just when I thought 745 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: he was turning the corner, he'd get hurt or was 746 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: inactive because he wasn't on teams or whatever. Perfect example 747 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: of that last running back. If he's not a special 748 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: team or not being able to help you much. And 749 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: he wasn't a you know, Patterson like return guy, even 750 00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: though he did return kicks. 751 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: But the Dolphins like speed, they do like he fits 752 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: with them perfect. 753 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe something works out for him there. 754 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a good, good landing spot. Yeah, 755 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: it is for him so we'll see how that works out. 756 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: The Bills came out of the game with a lot 757 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: of injurers. 758 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: No did that, I didn't say so. 759 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky expected to miss multiple weeks with the knee injury, 760 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 2: according to Sean McDermott. 761 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: And Denuci's the backup who just signed like last five 762 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: minutes ago. 763 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Marquez Valdez Scantling, who we saw stay down 764 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: on the field for quite a while. He's expected to 765 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: miss multiple weeks. That's a I believe a sprain neck. Okay, 766 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: that's never good. 767 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: I never heard what that was. It looked a little 768 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: scary though. 769 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Curtis Samuel with turf toe is week to week. 770 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: That can be something that he. 771 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: Did play, but yeah, they're counting on him a lot. Okay. 772 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: Tight End Quinton Moore. 773 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: Really, by the way, Shakir Only was out there with 774 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 3: three receiver sets for them too. 775 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 776 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 3: Coleman was okay, but he didn't look like a game 777 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: changer to me in either one of the events we saw, 778 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, as a rookie. So their receivers are a 779 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: little shaky. 780 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, tight End Quinton Morris, who also got hurt on 781 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: the same play that Valdez. Scantling got hurt on He's 782 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: got a shoulder issue. He's expected to miss multiple weeks. 783 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: He's our third guy there. Yeah, they have Knox and 784 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: Kincaid ahead. 785 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: Of it, and then safety Damar Hamlin has a hamstring. 786 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: He is week to week and. 787 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: They already lost Milano. I mean they held out I 788 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: forget their starting linebacker. They held out Bernard. Yeah, because 789 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 3: they're so thin a linebacker. Safety is not much better. 790 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: I mean the Poyer and hide that have been fixtures 791 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 3: for that team are gone. And they've always been so 792 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: strong between the numbers up the middle, the spine of 793 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: the defense, and it's scary for them right now. 794 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 2: It's a little bit of an issue. 795 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really I like the Bills was an organization. 796 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 3: I think they're well coached. I see what they're going through. 797 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 3: I mean, this is chapter two of the Josh Allen story. 798 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: But he's gonna have to be like League MVP for 799 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: them to be a contender. I mean, there's not that 800 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: much around them at the moment. 801 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: There really is. You like the d line a lot though, Yeah, 802 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: McDermott didn't. Well, you better because they've drafted a lot 803 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: of spent a lot of draft a lot of those guys. Yeah. Yeah. 804 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: McDermott said he's not going to play his starters next 805 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 2: week in their preseason finale against the Panthers. 806 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: I didn't realize how banged up they were after the 807 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 3: Steeler game, and I for them, I would not play 808 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: their starters either, like, let's just get to the starting line. Adams. 809 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: People know this, but I mean, I'm not sure if 810 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: it was mentioned on the air, but it sounds like 811 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 3: Josh Allen was gonna play. But then when the rain hit, 812 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 3: they're just like, ah, it's all. 813 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, thank terrain played a factor and a lot 814 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: of that, a lot of they wanted to play everybody. 815 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 816 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: Uh did you see the Browns lost or all their 817 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: offensive tackle all their offensive tackles have been just devastating. 818 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Dwan Jones is the only one 819 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 3: out there that they've been able to count on at all. 820 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: Conklin I thinks on the. 821 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: As his as his will uh uh will or Willis 822 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: Jedrick Willis, Wills Wills Wills Okay, yes, and they're even 823 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 2: like Hubbard and those guys I think Hudson, Yeah, they're 824 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: on like no tackles at all. 825 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of teams that are really thin. 826 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 2: And they were talking about playing Deshaun Watson in the 827 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: in the third preseason game because he just got cleared 828 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 2: for contact. 829 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, I bet not. 830 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: Do you play him with they don't have any offensive tackles? 831 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think not and maybe asked Potonio to 832 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: play tack or something. Goofy like that. I'm just spitballing, 833 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 3: But no, that's a problem. Like we saw the last week, 834 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: the Niners had to cancel joint practice because they were 835 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 3: two banged up. 836 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 2: Twenty three guys hurt. 837 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: Twenty three guys hurt right at a ninety. The league's 838 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: in a weird place, I mean, and we opened with this. 839 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: I know people were down on the Steelers, but this 840 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 3: preseason is not very entertaining or I mean, it's it's 841 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: kind of an odd situation right now. 842 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 2: The Bengals placed running back Chris Evans and offensive tackle 843 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: Deontay Smith on ir They both got hurt in the game. 844 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: They're both in the past week. 845 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Guys. 846 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure they just want to bring them back to 847 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: camp next year. Yeah. 848 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you see. Gilmore signed with the Stefan Gilmour, now 849 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 2: a Minnesota Viking. 850 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and the Raiders named ahead named uh garden 851 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 3: issue is a starting quarterback kind of by the fall. 852 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: Well. Jane Daniels also named the starter in Washington as well. 853 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 3: So I would think Bo Nixon make me to this 854 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: stuff from Sorry, I'm sorry, I thought you were struggling 855 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 3: for something just reading. 856 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: Everything else that I got here to see if anybody 857 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: else's uh is standing out here? 858 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: Uh. 859 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford with the hamstring gets some individual work on Monday. 860 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 2: Offensive tackle Jonah Jackson participated. 861 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: In the individual There are lines been in shambles. They 862 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: don't play anyone the preseason anyway, so who I mean 863 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: the they kind of laugh at the preseason. They laughed 864 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: a draft picks fixed too, and they don't said their 865 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: scouts to the combine. The Rams do things different. 866 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 2: They do let the head coach stay up in the Yeah. 867 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little concerning though. I mean he's just 868 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 3: his age and any little thing you hear about him, yeah, 869 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: just you know, makes it right. It raises an eyebrow. 870 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins, who we mentioned U one of the 871 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 2: reasons why they signed Anthony McFarland is that Chris Brooks 872 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: one of the running backs when into and concussion protocol. 873 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: Odell Beckham is not expected to return to practice this week. 874 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: I don't think he's done one thing. 875 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: He hasn't done anything. Yeah, he's done one thing in 876 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: maybe four years, quite some time. I'm not sure how 877 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: interested in football he is. He I mean interested in 878 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: continuing to collect a paycheck. 879 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we nailed it last year. The day the 880 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 3: Raven signed him like that is a. 881 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: Bad maybe one of the worst signings in recent history. Yeah. 882 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 2: They also have River craig Craft had an upper body injury. 883 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: He's gonna miss some regular season time. If River craiy 884 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: Craft was actually going to make their roster and Willie 885 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 2: Snead placed on injured reserve, I didn't realize he was 886 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 2: still in the league. 887 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 888 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: Cornerback Cam Smith, he's a guy they're really counting. They're 889 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: counting on him. He was hurt much of last year. 890 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: Has moved on from Howard and first round pick. Yeah, yeah, 891 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 3: he was one. Yeah, they need him to step up 892 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 3: in a big way. 893 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 2: He's considered week the week with the hamstring injury. So 894 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: they didn't have a ton of depth to begin with. 895 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: No, that was a position they couldn't afford to lose either. 896 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned the Stephan Gilmore signing by the Minnesota Vikings. 897 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 2: Hunter Henry has an undisclosed injury, but Girod Mayo said 898 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 2: he is expected to be ready for Week one for 899 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. 900 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 3: He's one of the few pass catchers is reliable with 901 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: you count on. He's not dynamic, but at least you 902 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 3: know what you're getting with the guy good in the 903 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 3: red zone. 904 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: Did you see this one? Matt so Tua Tago vi 905 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: Looa went on the Dan Levatard Show and he was 906 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 2: asked about the difference in the two head coaches that 907 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: he's had. 908 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 3: He bashed the old game. 909 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: Bashed Brian Flores really time. Okay, he said, to put 910 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 2: it in the simplest terms, if you woke up every 911 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: morning and I told you that you suck at what 912 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: you did, well, I hear that all the time. You 913 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: don't belong doing what you do, that you shouldn't be there, 914 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: this guy should be here, that you haven't earned this. 915 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: And then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude, 916 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: you're the best. 917 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: Fit for this. 918 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 2: You're accurate, you're the best whatever you're this or that. 919 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 2: How would that make you feel listening from one to 920 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: the other. 921 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean been a lot of coaches in this 922 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 3: league that aren't love kissy unicorns and rainbows, you know, 923 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 3: and maybe two of operates better with one than the other. 924 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:15,959 Speaker 3: That's fine. 925 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 2: I have a hard time believing Nick Saban is all cuddly. 926 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: No, not even a little. I mean, anyone talking Chuck 927 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 3: Noles stories or parcels or you know. There's a lot 928 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 3: of different ways to coach, and I'm a I'm a 929 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 3: Flores fan. I love what he did with the Vikings 930 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 3: defense last year too. Maybe he's only a coordinator when 931 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 3: it's deep down, I don't know, but I you know, 932 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: everyone responds differently. I think two of as I look 933 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: at it, like this offensive system, the x's and o's, 934 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 3: is a lot better, not necessarily as a debt better. 935 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 3: They didn't necessarily won any more though than they did no, 936 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 3: and they were basically trying to lose. 937 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: They were trying to lose with Flores, and they still won, and. 938 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: I still won. That's why I got fired. Yeah, right, 939 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: but whatever, I don't know. I don't understand athletes bashing 940 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 3: the guys as they leave, you know, like it's kind 941 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 3: of a cheap shot. 942 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 2: It really is, because people are gonna now ask Flores 943 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 2: about this, and he's gonna say, I don't have any 944 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 2: comment on that. That's because it's. 945 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 3: A class move. He's not gonna be like two A 946 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: soft tough enough dude, you know what I mean, Like 947 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 3: he might be what he thinks you know. Yeah, showed 948 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: them and he couldn't handle it, you know. 949 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: You know Belichick coach Tom Brady hard. 950 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he coached him like fifty third guy on the roster, right, 951 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 3: So I I don't know whatever, I don't. I just 952 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 3: keep your mouth shut on that stuff. But whatever, I mean, 953 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 3: you got paid, You're you're in a happy place. 954 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: She didn't have to. Yeah, throw the other guy under 955 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 2: the bus. 956 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: I just don't understand what you get out of it. 957 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't get it either. 958 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 3: What's crazy is they could be teammates one day too, 959 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 3: you know, like you could get cut after a bad 960 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 3: year because you're making fifty million and he's a defensive 961 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 3: coordinator on your team. You know, like you're gonna intersect 962 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: with these people a lot. Yeah, go for it, absolutely, yea. Yeah, 963 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 3: you could wind up back. Yeah, who knows both might 964 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 3: be Raiders some day or something. You know, Yeah, I 965 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 3: hope not for their sake, all right. 966 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: Anyways, that's gonna do it for our number one of 967 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and 968 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 2: I will be back with our number two. Don't change 969 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 2: that dial right after this. 970 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: You're home for the Steelers. This is the Pittsburgh Steelers 971 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: Audio Network, Fox Sports, Pittsburgh Tailgator Traffic