Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Fast Track. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Scott Benjamin, and today we're going to um take a
Speaker 1: little bit of a turn. I guess we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about some but a lot of different things really,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna have kind of a broad scope in
Speaker 1: this one. And uh, and I think it's something that
Speaker 1: almost everybody, at least anybody listening here we'll be able
Speaker 1: to relate to, and that is automotive bucket list. And
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have heard of bucket
Speaker 1: list before. It's you know those things that you want
Speaker 1: to do before you die, which sounds awful, but you know,
Speaker 1: the things that you want to do before you die.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people have things like, you know, skydiving,
Speaker 1: or they want to go to France, or they want
Speaker 1: to um, you know, because it usually it involves a
Speaker 1: lot of travel. Usually it involves um some experiences and
Speaker 1: that type of thing. But I want to I want
Speaker 1: to focus today on automotive bucket list. And this could
Speaker 1: be just about anything. And uh, I have have talked to
Speaker 1: several people about, you know, some things that they might
Speaker 1: want to do, you know, automotive or lated before they
Speaker 1: are too old to do them, you know, too old
Speaker 1: to drive, or you know before they kind of lose
Speaker 1: interest in this sort of thing, because I think that
Speaker 1: might happen with a lot of people as well. You know,
Speaker 1: you just kind of age out of this thing. You know,
Speaker 1: you get a little bit more um responsible, you know maybe,
Speaker 1: or you get um, you know, the point where you
Speaker 1: realize that, you know, maybe you don't necessarily want to
Speaker 1: drive you know, three miles per hour in the salt
Speaker 1: flats anymore because you know, you're you're eight years old
Speaker 1: and your reaction time might not be the best that
Speaker 1: or the way that it was you know, thirty years
Speaker 1: prior any something like that. Um. But anyways, there's there's
Speaker 1: a huge variety here of things that we can talk about. It.
Speaker 1: I've I've recently done something that I want to talk
Speaker 1: about in particular, and uh and I just can't say
Speaker 1: enough about it. And I'm not gonna I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to sell this, this package or this deal to anybody
Speaker 1: by any means, but it is something that that I
Speaker 1: did recently that that I want to talk about. It
Speaker 1: was a driving experience and uh and I'll get into
Speaker 1: that too, But before I talk about my own experience.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about, you know, some of these
Speaker 1: experiences that you know, people that I know have have
Speaker 1: been able to do in the past, and this is
Speaker 1: kind of inspiration for me to do this sort of
Speaker 1: thing as well. And I was excited about it when
Speaker 1: I heard about it. And you know, when you see
Speaker 1: somebody else that does something like this and you know
Speaker 1: they you hear the stories that they tell you of
Speaker 1: what it was like, UM, that's pretty interesting. It's it's
Speaker 1: always fun, and it kind of gets you thrilled, you know,
Speaker 1: to do the same thing, or it kind of gets
Speaker 1: you amped up a little bit too to maybe go
Speaker 1: out and you know, experience some of this stuff yourself.
Speaker 1: And what I'm talking about in particular is is I
Speaker 1: guess these driving packages or these experiences that you can
Speaker 1: purchase for a day or an hour or you know,
Speaker 1: even just a couple of laps or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: at various race courses around the United States or around
Speaker 1: the world. Really and um, once that that I'm talking
Speaker 1: about are um, you know, exotics or maybe it's you know,
Speaker 1: like the drift cars, or it could be you know,
Speaker 1: it could be classic cars. It could be just about anything.
Speaker 1: There's experiences out there for for just about every type
Speaker 1: of of you know, race series that is out there,
Speaker 1: um or every type of vehicle that it's out there, uh,
Speaker 1: including manufacturers. Sometimes manufacturers will even host these that allow
Speaker 1: you to drive some of their top end vehicles, you know,
Speaker 1: all the way down through some of the lower end models,
Speaker 1: just to be familiar with, you know what the what
Speaker 1: they have on their showroom floors at the time. My
Speaker 1: dad is the one that I want to talk about
Speaker 1: who has done this most recently, and this is a
Speaker 1: year ago Father's Day. We gave him as a gift
Speaker 1: a NASCAR experience and this he lives in Michigan, and
Speaker 1: this is happening at the Michigan International Speedway and you're
Speaker 1: you're allowed to get into an actual NASCAR car. You know,
Speaker 1: it has every it's a race vehicle. It's d tuned
Speaker 1: quite a bit, I think, you know, it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of governed down so that you know, you're not going
Speaker 1: to maximum speed, you know, like as they would in
Speaker 1: the in the professional series. But um, it's it's for
Speaker 1: a user experience that you know, you can buy a
Speaker 1: package for you know, a half day, half hour, half
Speaker 1: you know what, whatever the increment of time it was.
Speaker 1: I can't remember how many hours it was that he
Speaker 1: was there, but um got several laps in in a
Speaker 1: true NASCAR car and really enjoyed the heck out of it.
Speaker 1: Was a lot of fun. And um, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of particulars that we're interesting in this and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you about them later. But my brother did one as well.
Speaker 1: Um he did one where you know, you go to
Speaker 1: a parking lot and you get to drive in an
Speaker 1: exotic car and I don't know how many laps you
Speaker 1: get to do in this thing. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of an autocross course with cones and uh, you know.
Speaker 1: The dangerous part about this one to me anyways, is
Speaker 1: that you know, they're light poles and uh, some concrete
Speaker 1: barriers and things like that around that I would be
Speaker 1: a little bit concerned about if I was him, But
Speaker 1: he loved it. He was able to drive a Ferrari
Speaker 1: and was able to uh you know kind of I guess,
Speaker 1: not push it to the maximum or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but but really kind of feel what that car is
Speaker 1: capable of. My my father in law he did one
Speaker 1: also that was a Ferrari, but he also did his
Speaker 1: it m I s they both live in Michigan, my
Speaker 1: my dad and my father in law. And that was
Speaker 1: a birthday gift I think from his wife. And he
Speaker 1: was able to drive a Ferrari four a d G
Speaker 1: T B and uh he drove something like a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty miles per hour on the track and it
Speaker 1: was just like super quick accelerating car, you know, zero
Speaker 1: to sixty and like two point eight seconds or something
Speaker 1: like that, really quick. It was just a thrill for him.
Speaker 1: He's a Corvette owner, so he has a a Corvette.
Speaker 1: You know that he drives not daily, but you know
Speaker 1: he drives it often enough. And I said, it's a
Speaker 1: night and day difference between the Corvette and Ferrari said.
Speaker 1: It was just an incredible feeling, you know, great sensation
Speaker 1: to be able to do something like that. And and honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, these packages, I know that they're kind of expensive.
Speaker 1: They cost you know, a couple hundred bucks when you
Speaker 1: when you do them, but um, and I thought up
Speaker 1: until the point that I decided to do my own
Speaker 1: experience or you know, I received it as a gift.
Speaker 1: I was thrilled with it. I kind of thought, well,
Speaker 1: it seems like it might be kind of a waste
Speaker 1: of money, and I think a lot of people feel
Speaker 1: that way that, you know, why would I spend three
Speaker 1: fifty or four hundred or even five dollars or more
Speaker 1: on something that only lasts a couple of hours. You
Speaker 1: don't get to keep the car by any means, obviously,
Speaker 1: you don't get to drive it for the full day.
Speaker 1: You don't even get to drive it and show off
Speaker 1: to your friends or anything, you know, driving around you know,
Speaker 1: the city that you live, unless you're renting a car
Speaker 1: for the day, which is something totally different. Um. But
Speaker 1: these experiences allow you to kind of push that car
Speaker 1: to the maximum, and you've got you know, professional instructor
Speaker 1: there with you, and um is, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you. I at first I thought,
Speaker 1: that's an awful lot of money because the experience that
Speaker 1: I did, um the Porsche driving experience here in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and the price was somewhere around three hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five dollars I think at the time, three fifties somewhere
Speaker 1: around there. And again it was a gift, and I thought,
Speaker 1: oh boy, it's it's really this is an expensive gift.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna enjoy its worth, you know,
Speaker 1: And just the small amount of time that you get.
Speaker 1: You only get an hour on the track, and um,
Speaker 1: you think that that's not enough time really to fully
Speaker 1: experience the vehicle. But I was completely wrong, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why in just a moment after we take
Speaker 1: a break for a word from our sponsor and we're back.
Speaker 1: And just before the break, we were talking about how
Speaker 1: I had gone to the Porsche Driving Experience here in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and this is kind of a big deal around here.
Speaker 1: And I would guess that you know, any town that
Speaker 1: something like this appears in, it kind of becomes a
Speaker 1: big deal. And it happens right down by the airport.
Speaker 1: And I was fortunate enough to get this as a gift,
Speaker 1: and I'm so thank full that I got it. I
Speaker 1: probably it's something that I would not have have done
Speaker 1: on my own. I don't think I would have spent
Speaker 1: my own money initially to do this. But now now
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go back again.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna go back again for this because
Speaker 1: it was so thrilling. It was just so it was
Speaker 1: such a fantastic day that it's it's hard to even
Speaker 1: wrap your mind around it. If you haven't ever done
Speaker 1: something like this, it's all you can think about, all
Speaker 1: you can talk about, it's all. It's just it's a
Speaker 1: it's an incredible experience that it's an immersive experience, which
Speaker 1: is really really cool. And I think that a lot
Speaker 1: of them are this way. I'm not so sure that
Speaker 1: you know, the one like my brother did, where you know,
Speaker 1: it's a couple of laps in a parking lot, in
Speaker 1: a in an exotic is the same way. It's the Sure,
Speaker 1: it's thrilling, it's fun, but it's not exactly what you
Speaker 1: get when you go to something like what I did
Speaker 1: here at the Porsche experience and what other people have
Speaker 1: done with uh, you know, the NASCAR experiences that happened,
Speaker 1: you know at some of the bigger tracks. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know, like some of the other tracks
Speaker 1: do it. I know Michigan International Speedway does it up
Speaker 1: in Michigan, But I don't know if you know, like
Speaker 1: Talladegaer Dayton or any of those do it. I think
Speaker 1: that there are some of these across the United States
Speaker 1: at different places that you can O two and they
Speaker 1: are more immersive. You go through a little bit of
Speaker 1: a schooling process, you know, where they teach you exactly
Speaker 1: what to expect when you get out there, etcetera. UM.
Speaker 1: That's where this one that I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: about differs a little bit. But you do get trained
Speaker 1: on them. You do get you know, the an idea
Speaker 1: of what what to do, some of the rules of
Speaker 1: the of the racing. Because you are out there with
Speaker 1: other people on the track at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: not that you know you're the only one out there. UM,
Speaker 1: and that makes it even more exciting for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. You know you're getting passed, you're passing. It's
Speaker 1: just it gives another level to it, you know, the
Speaker 1: whole different experience again, this one that I did. If
Speaker 1: you and I'm not selling this by any means, but
Speaker 1: if you go to the Porsche Experience UM Atlanta or
Speaker 1: search the keyword and you'll find you know exactly what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Here. You can look at a map
Speaker 1: of the course that they have, which is it's huge.
Speaker 1: It's right by the airport here in Atlanta, and they
Speaker 1: have several of these. They have one I believe it's
Speaker 1: in California. They have one in Alabama, and they have
Speaker 1: one in um, I'm sorry, Louisiana rather and here in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: of course, and they have for the track. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a norm, it really is. It's a great
Speaker 1: big facility and there's an office space down there as well,
Speaker 1: so people work on the property, you know, daily Monday
Speaker 1: through Friday, nine five whatever. But the track is also there.
Speaker 1: And what's really interesting about this you can you can
Speaker 1: look at the online and look at the map and
Speaker 1: um it's I think it's over one point six miles
Speaker 1: of track that they have, and there's several different modules
Speaker 1: or experiences that you can do within this track. There
Speaker 1: isn't a separate off road circuit. So if you're looking
Speaker 1: at one of the uh, one of the off road vehicles,
Speaker 1: you know, the the SUVs that that Porcha makes, you
Speaker 1: can do that. But the stuff that I was doing
Speaker 1: it was, you know, the road course and there's some
Speaker 1: low friction handling circuits and things like that. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you about us in just a second, but this is
Speaker 1: one of those experiences where, um, again I don't think
Speaker 1: I would have paid for this on my own, but
Speaker 1: I was so happy to get it as a gift,
Speaker 1: and I went on St. Patrick's Day in two thousand eighteen.
Speaker 1: So it's been over a years since I've been there,
Speaker 1: and I still think about it a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's something that I want to go back and do again. Um,
Speaker 1: if you look at the vehicles, you can choose many,
Speaker 1: many different vehicles, you know, all of the Porta lineup,
Speaker 1: and and it varies in cost from I guess I
Speaker 1: think it gets really very expensive up at the top end.
Speaker 1: But if you scroll all the way to the bottom.
Speaker 1: And this is not not a knock on anybody who
Speaker 1: bought me this gift. I'll tell you that I was
Speaker 1: able to get into the sevent eighteen Boxer, and I
Speaker 1: think I was in the Boxer s actually for about
Speaker 1: three and sixty five dollars, That's what I said. It's
Speaker 1: an hour and a half. It's a three horsepower car.
Speaker 1: Zero to sixty is and four point five seconds to
Speaker 1: top speed is around a hundred and seventy miles per hour.
Speaker 1: You're not going that fast on this course, but you
Speaker 1: you're not even gonna notice that, you don't. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you the whole time that I was doing this, I
Speaker 1: don't think I ever looked at the spedometer. It just
Speaker 1: wasn't a concern. And I don't know you think that
Speaker 1: that's Uh, it's kind of counterintuitive because you're in a Porsche,
Speaker 1: you're on a racetrack. You think you want to know
Speaker 1: how fast you're going. It's more of a sensation thing.
Speaker 1: It's more of how you feel when you're going that
Speaker 1: fast and you're learning. You've got an instructor next to you.
Speaker 1: That's it's kind of teaching you the way, the whole
Speaker 1: thing right from the very beginning. As soon as you
Speaker 1: get there. You walk out on the tarmac and you
Speaker 1: get in your car. You don't have to go to
Speaker 1: a course. You don't have to go to like, you know,
Speaker 1: an hour long course. Of this hour and a half
Speaker 1: that we're talking about, you know that you're purchasing is
Speaker 1: a true hour and a half in the car. You're
Speaker 1: in the seat for an hour and a half. And
Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's more time than you could you could
Speaker 1: even imagine. I mean, it feels like you're in there
Speaker 1: half the day. Really, it does feel like a long
Speaker 1: long time. And uh, and that's really good because you
Speaker 1: get to do just about everything Uh, this course that
Speaker 1: that I was on, or the you know, the driving
Speaker 1: experience here in Atlanta. Again, it's right, it's on the
Speaker 1: property of the airport. Uh so you've got you know,
Speaker 1: huge jets flying overhead. It's really it's it's a really
Speaker 1: interesting and beautiful setup that they have. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a really pretty course, if you want to put it
Speaker 1: that way. There is a there's a one mile handling circuit,
Speaker 1: which is you know, like a big race track that
Speaker 1: goes all the way around and that's kind of like
Speaker 1: your well, it's like I guess where you kind of
Speaker 1: max out the car. Really, I mean, you're able to
Speaker 1: to test the corner and you're able to test the acceleration,
Speaker 1: the breaking, all of that and uh and they will
Speaker 1: kind of help you along as you go. And you know,
Speaker 1: I tell you points to look at. This is your
Speaker 1: your target point. You're gonna want to look at this
Speaker 1: as you accelerate and then break really hard right here.
Speaker 1: You know, that kind of instruction is being given to
Speaker 1: you for several laps until you get the hang of it,
Speaker 1: and then they kind of let you go on your
Speaker 1: own with the instructor still next to you. Of course. Uh,
Speaker 1: They also have a wet or a low friction circle,
Speaker 1: which is kind of an inward sloping polished concrete area
Speaker 1: that has water spraying onto it. And uh, that's where
Speaker 1: you can kind of test out your drifting capabilities, you know,
Speaker 1: your your abilities, I should say. Um. They also have
Speaker 1: a low friction handling circuit, which is imagine that same
Speaker 1: material that that polished concrete, you know that's slick and
Speaker 1: you know it's got water spraying on it. Imagine a
Speaker 1: low friction handling circuit which has you know, several off
Speaker 1: camera turns and turns that are that are sloped the
Speaker 1: right way and the opposite way so that you know,
Speaker 1: the back end slides out and you can test you know,
Speaker 1: understeer oversteer in this area. And it's that's really challenging.
Speaker 1: That's a very difficult part of it, and it's a
Speaker 1: very small part of the course. But um again it's
Speaker 1: it's it's very challenging. You can do that over and
Speaker 1: over again. There's also I mentioned the you know, the
Speaker 1: off road circuit. That's one thing I didn't get to
Speaker 1: the off road circuit obviously in the car that I
Speaker 1: was in the box r S. There is also a
Speaker 1: dynamics area, which is where you test the launch control
Speaker 1: and you can do kind of a solemn course, you know,
Speaker 1: with with cones set up and h they tell you
Speaker 1: how to do that. They you know what, there's there's
Speaker 1: a lot of fun things about each one of these
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you about that as we get to
Speaker 1: it here. And then there's also something this is maybe
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of this whole thing, and
Speaker 1: it's hard to judge, you know, which one is my
Speaker 1: favorite part. But they have something called a kickplate, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about the kickplate in just a moment.
Speaker 1: But when you first get in the vehicle, so when
Speaker 1: you start this whole thing, you get right in the
Speaker 1: car and you head out on the course and they
Speaker 1: tell you, you know, watch for traffic. You know, when
Speaker 1: you're when you're passing somebody. Um you always you always
Speaker 1: wait for my instruction to pass, you know, because they
Speaker 1: have communication between the vehicles. There are other cars on
Speaker 1: the course, and there are other different types of vehicles
Speaker 1: on the course, so you know, there'll be nine elevens
Speaker 1: out on the course, they'll be boxers out on the course.
Speaker 1: At the same time, there's gonna be panameras out on
Speaker 1: the course. UM. This place, this facility allows you to
Speaker 1: if you want to, you can pick up your brand
Speaker 1: new Porsche there and you can get kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit of instruct and with your new vehicle and
Speaker 1: pick up your vehicle from this facility if you want to,
Speaker 1: if you if you've ordered it here in town or
Speaker 1: you know somewhere nearby, that you want to do this
Speaker 1: UM so that you know, you get a little bit
Speaker 1: of experience behind the wheel in this performance vehicle before
Speaker 1: you take it home, which I think is really cool.
Speaker 1: So you can have new delivery of your vehicle there,
Speaker 1: or you can just test out all these vehicles. So
Speaker 1: let's say that you go to the dealership and you
Speaker 1: want to know what it's like to drive a GT three. UM,
Speaker 1: you can do that. It's gonna cost quite a bit
Speaker 1: of money to be able to do that, but you
Speaker 1: can go and drive you know, their ultimate top end vehicle. UM. Again,
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost quite a bit more than you know
Speaker 1: the Boxer experience. But you know there's every level in
Speaker 1: between there as well, So you know, choose which one
Speaker 1: you find most interesting to you're the one that you
Speaker 1: want to do the most. The Boxer was plenty. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you to get the full experience that you don't
Speaker 1: need to worry about that. It's it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, you know, the first thing that
Speaker 1: you do is you go out on the one mile
Speaker 1: handling circuit and you don't take it slow, but you
Speaker 1: go slower than you will later in the day. Obviously
Speaker 1: on your first lap, first couple of laps, maybe as
Speaker 1: the instructor gives you instruction, you know where you should
Speaker 1: be and how to fall all the right the appropriate
Speaker 1: lines around the track. And I'll tell you when I
Speaker 1: first started this, it was it was a dry morning,
Speaker 1: but it was cloudy, overcast, and eventually later in the
Speaker 1: day it began to rain, and I thought that would
Speaker 1: just kind of ruin the experience, but it did not.
Speaker 1: It actually made it more interesting to have like half
Speaker 1: of the day in the dry weather, half the day
Speaker 1: and the wet weather. And uh later you know, you've
Speaker 1: got so much experience on this course that uh, some
Speaker 1: of the times on the wet course we're just as fast,
Speaker 1: if not faster, than on the dry track. At the
Speaker 1: beginning of the day, because you become more familiar with
Speaker 1: the vehicle and you're able to drive it even even
Speaker 1: uh uh push it more to its maximum, I guess,
Speaker 1: um in a lot of ways. And uh So you
Speaker 1: start out on the handling circuit and you just go
Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean, you feel like you're going flat out.
Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable how quick you can go on this
Speaker 1: and the feeling of being able to do that in
Speaker 1: a controlled environment, you know, with with an instructor near you,
Speaker 1: and you know you've got the insurance in the car
Speaker 1: and everything, and you feel good about it and you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with it. Um they allow you to kind
Speaker 1: of push a little for other and if you're hitting
Speaker 1: your marks, they allow you to go a little bit faster,
Speaker 1: they allow you to push it a little bit harder,
Speaker 1: and they kind of back off on the instruction and
Speaker 1: allow you to do what you want to do with
Speaker 1: the car. And and that's all very very helpful. It's
Speaker 1: just it's a it's a blast. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: So you do several laps of that and then they
Speaker 1: take you to all these different modules. You know that
Speaker 1: maybe they'll take you over to the dynamics area next
Speaker 1: and allow you to do a launch control start, which
Speaker 1: I completely flubbed the first time I tried it. You know,
Speaker 1: it is it's a little bit more difficult to do
Speaker 1: than you might think. And it sounds really easy. You know.
Speaker 1: You just mash down the brake and then you turn
Speaker 1: on certain traction control, turn off trash control. I don't
Speaker 1: remember what it was I he was operating all that.
Speaker 1: I was just focused on getting the thing to go
Speaker 1: fast and straight. And um, I know it sounds funny,
Speaker 1: but like all the electronic gadgetry, you can kind of
Speaker 1: just ignore all of that, you know, you and just
Speaker 1: experience the drive and the feel of this whole thing.
Speaker 1: And that's that's really so much fun to do. So
Speaker 1: I flubbed the launch control in the first time, you know,
Speaker 1: and and uh, spectacular failure on that one. But but
Speaker 1: the second tempt it was really good, and and the
Speaker 1: third and fourth. And they allow you to do this
Speaker 1: as many times as you want, because again, you have
Speaker 1: an hour and a half ahead of you. And we
Speaker 1: started to kind of make our way around different things,
Speaker 1: and we went to you know, the low friction circle
Speaker 1: and kind of practice that a little bit, and the
Speaker 1: low friction handling circuit, and they tell you what to
Speaker 1: expect and each one, and you know when you're supposed
Speaker 1: to accelerate what you're supposed to do, if you're supposed
Speaker 1: to stab at the break, or if you're supposed to
Speaker 1: slowly push the break, and that type of thing. You know,
Speaker 1: that type of instruction is given to you all along
Speaker 1: the way, so you feel very very comfortable with it.
Speaker 1: And maybe the second or third time through each one
Speaker 1: of these modules, you know you're on your own. You
Speaker 1: just do it and UH and it becomes more and
Speaker 1: more intuitive as you do it and go back to
Speaker 1: the dynamics area. You can do this long course. And
Speaker 1: the fun thing about that is that they tell you
Speaker 1: the first time, or at least my instructor did, tells
Speaker 1: me to do it how I think I should do it,
Speaker 1: you know, do the slow how I felt that I
Speaker 1: should drive through their uh to do it fastest. And
Speaker 1: I did, and it was terrible. Did it slow? You know,
Speaker 1: it did wasn't very quick at all. Um. We go
Speaker 1: back to the beginning and he gives me right away,
Speaker 1: gives me like two or three tips to go faster,
Speaker 1: and it immediately works. I mean, it's it's incredible how
Speaker 1: quickly someone can teach you from the passenger seat how
Speaker 1: to do something better, and and it works, and you
Speaker 1: do it, you know, two or three times, and by
Speaker 1: the end of that two or three times, you feel
Speaker 1: like a real pro. I mean, it's it's funny, but
Speaker 1: you gain knowledge and experience that quickly in that vehicle
Speaker 1: and you have that much more confidence to be able
Speaker 1: to do it. And you know, one thing that I
Speaker 1: want to mention here is that, you know, I said
Speaker 1: early on that the kickplate was one of my favorite things.
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, the the one mile handling circuit,
Speaker 1: of course, is going to be fun because you know,
Speaker 1: you're really pushing the car and it's it's fast, and
Speaker 1: it's fun, it's exciting and everything. The kickplate is something different.
Speaker 1: The kickplate is all about control. And the kickplate is
Speaker 1: a big flat piece of pavement and I believe it
Speaker 1: says you know, Porsche. It's written and read on the
Speaker 1: on the ground next to you and everything it looks.
Speaker 1: It looks really dramatic when you see it from a distance,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting. The water spring on it
Speaker 1: from all different angles. It's actually it's really it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: You know, the green grass all around it, it's really
Speaker 1: pretty and as you what you do is you drive
Speaker 1: across are you start very close to the kickplate and
Speaker 1: you drive into it at it doesn't sound like very
Speaker 1: very fast, but maybe twenty to thirty per hour at
Speaker 1: the most. That's the fastest you'll go. And as your
Speaker 1: car travels over a certain section of the concrete, which
Speaker 1: is about maybe four or five feet uh you know,
Speaker 1: in length and uh um wide it's you know, two
Speaker 1: cars wide maybe at the most. And as you drive
Speaker 1: across it, as soon as you're when your rear wheels
Speaker 1: are on top of the kickplate, it throws you either
Speaker 1: left or right. It shifts one way or the other,
Speaker 1: and you don't know which way it's gonna go, and
Speaker 1: it's not controlled by the person the passenger seat. Is
Speaker 1: just completely random. You can't watch the car in front
Speaker 1: of you and determine which way it's gonna go. There's
Speaker 1: no pattern to it. It's all it's all randomly selected.
Speaker 1: So you're going onto this polished concrete surface at twenty
Speaker 1: or thirty miles an hour in a rear wheel drive car,
Speaker 1: you know, mid engine in this case, and there's a
Speaker 1: rear engine too, the uh the back end of the car.
Speaker 1: As you travel across, will suddenly either be thrown left
Speaker 1: or right, and you don't know which way it's gonna be,
Speaker 1: and they just a lot of this is the and
Speaker 1: the fun part of this is that, you know, they
Speaker 1: allow you to drive onto this thing first and they
Speaker 1: tell you what's going to happen, but they don't tell
Speaker 1: you how to handle it, you know, they they allow
Speaker 1: you to figure it out the first time. So the
Speaker 1: first time you do it, the car, let's say the car,
Speaker 1: the back end slides out to the left, and immediately
Speaker 1: you try to correct and you do the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: The car spins out, you know, does a full three
Speaker 1: sixty maybe even more if you're going fast enough, and
Speaker 1: you kind of slowly, slowly get control of the car
Speaker 1: again and then and then pull it out. It's tough
Speaker 1: to even get traction on this polished concrete that's all
Speaker 1: wet now, of course, and you you kind of circle
Speaker 1: your way back around, you know, go to the to
Speaker 1: the right and drive back around in line and get
Speaker 1: in line to do it again. And so there's spectators
Speaker 1: watching this, and everybody's up, you know, on a on
Speaker 1: an upper level deck watching and it all looks fun
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of exciting to see the car
Speaker 1: spinning and you know that's it's it's interesting to watch
Speaker 1: and all different types of Porsches. Right, So the next
Speaker 1: time you go around to do it, they give you
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tip and here's the trick
Speaker 1: to the whole kick plate things. So if you're ever
Speaker 1: doing this, you watch dead ahead of you. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a blue wall. I believe this as Porsche is
Speaker 1: somewhere off in the distance. And if you look at
Speaker 1: that when you're doing when you're doing this kickplate demonstration
Speaker 1: or this this uh, this this module um, if you
Speaker 1: look at that and you just keep your eyes focused
Speaker 1: on that that wall that's dead ahead, no matter what
Speaker 1: happens to the back end of the car, if you
Speaker 1: steer towards that wall, if you try to correct to
Speaker 1: get you as if you're going to go directly at
Speaker 1: that wall, every time you will straighten it out immediately.
Speaker 1: You won't. You won't spin out. The goal is to
Speaker 1: not spend out on this thing. So you're going thirty
Speaker 1: miles across it, back end goes left or right. You
Speaker 1: try to control it, or you do control it on
Speaker 1: the second or third time, even through and if you
Speaker 1: don't spend out, that's the that's the best part, right,
Speaker 1: that's the you've done this successfully. If you do spend out,
Speaker 1: you you've been unsuccessful. So after the whole day of
Speaker 1: of doing this, you know, I got you got pretty
Speaker 1: decent edit after two or three times, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to do it many many times, so I did. I
Speaker 1: did it several times in a row because you get
Speaker 1: the option to go back and kind of play around
Speaker 1: on some of these modules however you want. You've got
Speaker 1: so much time. My family is up watching me on
Speaker 1: the upper deck and I spun out the first time,
Speaker 1: and they thought that was really cool. The second time
Speaker 1: they said, why didn't you spin out? You know what
Speaker 1: is they thought that was the object of that part
Speaker 1: of the that part of the course because everybody was
Speaker 1: doing it. Everybody's spinning out, and it looked all dramatic
Speaker 1: and fun. But that was not the goal of that is.
Speaker 1: The goal was to remain in control and keep the car,
Speaker 1: you know, headed straight. And the idea, I guess is
Speaker 1: that you know, if you do have that one point ahead,
Speaker 1: you know that that optical point that you're you're staring,
Speaker 1: you're staring at that one point and you're able to
Speaker 1: correct and maintain control. You're not going to have that
Speaker 1: uh um you know that under or oversteer condition that
Speaker 1: you would have if you just didn't have control the vehicle.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a fascinating day at the track. It's
Speaker 1: so much fun. And and I had so much time
Speaker 1: left over, you know, once we had done all these
Speaker 1: modules that I was able to pick and choose and
Speaker 1: I was able to go back on the road handling circuit,
Speaker 1: you know, and and do that as many times as
Speaker 1: I wanted, as fast as I wanted. Of course, at
Speaker 1: that time it's it's raining, and I was a little
Speaker 1: bit nervous about it, but um, it was just it
Speaker 1: was so much fun. What a day. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't believe the adrenaline rush you have, are the high
Speaker 1: that you feel the rest of the day from doing
Speaker 1: something like that. And I would encourage you. And this
Speaker 1: is just you know, my my one experience with this
Speaker 1: whole thing, but I would encourage you if if you can,
Speaker 1: or if you have somebody in your life that you
Speaker 1: know would would like something like this, would it would
Speaker 1: enjoy a similar situation. Maybe it's maybe it is the
Speaker 1: NASCAR thing. Maybe it is just driving a an exotic
Speaker 1: at the at the mall on an autocross course, or
Speaker 1: you know whatever. I would encourage you to do stuff
Speaker 1: like this. I mean, it's so much fun and it's
Speaker 1: something that I will probably remember the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: I don't think I can ever forget my day there.
Speaker 1: And if I go to do it again, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a different experience. It's gonna be different vehicle,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a different um, you know, weather
Speaker 1: conditions is going to be a different altogether. It's still
Speaker 1: going to stand out. As you know, the first one
Speaker 1: was was still its own separate thing that was really
Speaker 1: fascinating and fun and exciting, and the second one will
Speaker 1: be something completely different and equally exciting. It's just it's
Speaker 1: it's worthwhile to do it. I know it's a little expensive.
Speaker 1: You know, it's still a couple hundred dollars to do
Speaker 1: something like this, and it sounds outrageous. But if there
Speaker 1: is again, if there's somebody in your life that that
Speaker 1: loves this type of thing, any of these experiences that
Speaker 1: you can find across the US, across the world, wherever
Speaker 1: it happens to be, these type of days are worth
Speaker 1: it in somebody's life if they are, um, you know,
Speaker 1: an auto enthusiast, you know, or even maybe somebody who
Speaker 1: just wants to give it a shot and you know,
Speaker 1: check that off their their bucket list. Maybe in fact,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's take a break for a wordsmo our sponsor.
Speaker 1: We'll come back and talk about a few more of
Speaker 1: these automotive bucket list items that that might interest some
Speaker 1: people that are you know, car guys, car girls. And
Speaker 1: we're back and you're listening to the Fast Track. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Scott Benjamin, And just before we left, we
Speaker 1: were talking about the uh, I guess the Porsche driving
Speaker 1: experience and my experience on the track, and I hope
Speaker 1: none of that really came across as bragging. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just it's just so much fun that you
Speaker 1: can't help but talk about it once you do it.
Speaker 1: And uh and I hope that you know a lot
Speaker 1: of you out there get the chance to do something
Speaker 1: like that, if if not as you know, a gift
Speaker 1: you know, from somebody else, if you know it's maybe
Speaker 1: it's a gift idea you can kind of float out
Speaker 1: there for you know, Christmas or your birthday or whatever
Speaker 1: it happens to be Father's day. Some them like that.
Speaker 1: If you can do it, i'd say, I'd say, definitely
Speaker 1: get yourself out to do it, you know, whether it
Speaker 1: happens to be something that's uh, you know, localized to
Speaker 1: where you are. You know, we're here in Atlanta, so
Speaker 1: it's relatively easy for me to get to that that
Speaker 1: portray experience. But there's you know, skip barber schools all
Speaker 1: over the place. You can go to many NASCAR tracks
Speaker 1: where they have Nascar experiences like my dad did. And
Speaker 1: I want to mention one thing about that in just
Speaker 1: a moment, because there was there's something really different and
Speaker 1: interesting about that one that I had never heard of
Speaker 1: before until until then. I was just amazed by what
Speaker 1: they could do. I'll get back to that, I promise.
Speaker 1: But you can go to rally schools, you can go
Speaker 1: to drift schools, you can go to all kinds of
Speaker 1: different schools and and check this stuff out. It doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean a huge time commitment either. Uh. Some of
Speaker 1: this can be just a few hours. It can be
Speaker 1: you know, a half day, it could be a weekend experience.
Speaker 1: You know, whatever it happens to be. But we're not
Speaker 1: talking about something where you have to enroll and you know,
Speaker 1: spend a month doing Uh. This is just you know,
Speaker 1: getting out there and getting some seat time and getting
Speaker 1: you know that that adrenaline flowing through your body a
Speaker 1: little bit, and and feeling good about your hobby, about
Speaker 1: your interest, about your excitement. You know. It's it's something
Speaker 1: I felt like. Maybe this is uh wandering a little
Speaker 1: bit off track here, but I'm going to anyways, just
Speaker 1: for a minute. You know, listeners of of car stuff
Speaker 1: will remember that I had a Yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: project car and uh and the project car, of course,
Speaker 1: I went the way as most project cars do that
Speaker 1: you know, I never really found enough time or money
Speaker 1: to put into it, and uh, it just never really
Speaker 1: went anywhere. And I ended up donating it to a
Speaker 1: children's charity in the end, and I felt really good
Speaker 1: about doing that. It helped out a lot of people,
Speaker 1: so um, it worked out well. You know. It was
Speaker 1: always a car that I always kind of dreamed of
Speaker 1: taken out of the road and driving. And you know,
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be more of an experience,
Speaker 1: I guess, and I wasn't getting, you know, the experience
Speaker 1: that I thought I was going to get out of
Speaker 1: this thing is just parked in the garage kind of
Speaker 1: taken up space for a long long time. And um,
Speaker 1: I never got, you know, the feeling that I that
Speaker 1: I really wanted to get out of having a toy
Speaker 1: like that. And a lot of people have toy cars,
Speaker 1: or they have a fascination or they have, you know,
Speaker 1: a car that they even drive daily that they just love.
Speaker 1: Like my wife drives a Jeep Wrangler that she absolutely loves.
Speaker 1: She's she's always wanted to have a Wrangler again, she
Speaker 1: had one in the past, and she she finally bought
Speaker 1: one recently and and just loves the thing. I just
Speaker 1: enjoys driving it every day. And I think that's fantastic
Speaker 1: if you can do that, if you can get you know,
Speaker 1: a Corvette, or you can get whatever type of car
Speaker 1: it is, maybe it's a luxury car that you really
Speaker 1: enjoy a lot, and you enjoy driving that vehicle and
Speaker 1: you can get out and do that and have fun
Speaker 1: and it that's really what's important. And and I wasn't
Speaker 1: getting that type of feeling from, you know, my project vehicle,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, I think are stuck in
Speaker 1: that same position. It's almost like it's not it's not
Speaker 1: hurting you to have it, but it's just not providing
Speaker 1: the excitement, the thrill that you wanted it too. And
Speaker 1: so I was kind of in um, kind of in
Speaker 1: a bad spot, I guess, you know, I just wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling too good about you know, I'm talking about all
Speaker 1: this really cool stuff every day at work, and I'm
Speaker 1: reading about all this stuff, and I'm having a lot
Speaker 1: of fun, you know, talking with other car people about things,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't getting the experience. I wasn't getting out
Speaker 1: and doing what I wanted to do in a car.
Speaker 1: And and this Porsche driving experience, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: rekindled that fire. You know, it made me more excited
Speaker 1: about it. Maybe um feel alive again, if that's you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a funny way to say it, but
Speaker 1: it really did make you feel alive and fresh and
Speaker 1: excited about you know, the car thing is a hobby,
Speaker 1: and I've just been excited about everything since then, and
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to do it again and and telling
Speaker 1: people about it, and you know, even again kind of
Speaker 1: chipping in on gifts for my father, my brother, you know,
Speaker 1: that type of thing, so they could do these types
Speaker 1: of things as well. Actually I didn't chip in on
Speaker 1: my brother, it's just my dad's. But my dad's experience.
Speaker 1: Getting back to that, I guess one thing that was
Speaker 1: was able to happen at this NASCAR experience. He did
Speaker 1: this at M I S. And that did require a
Speaker 1: little bit of, you know, a schooling, I guess ahead
Speaker 1: of time. I don't know if it was like an
Speaker 1: hour how long it was, but he did have to
Speaker 1: go to a class to kind of learn the rules
Speaker 1: of the of the track and how to do it
Speaker 1: and um, you know, the safety procedures and all that.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot of safety procedures when
Speaker 1: you're out there. They're very careful about that. But in this,
Speaker 1: in this a sense, he was able to go out
Speaker 1: on his own. He there's nobody with him in the
Speaker 1: vehicle at the time, and later he did do a
Speaker 1: ride along and I'll tell you about that too. But
Speaker 1: when he was out there on his own and driving,
Speaker 1: he had communication with a spot or they had a
Speaker 1: spotter that was up in the stands, just like they
Speaker 1: would for a NASCAR race, and they're telling him if
Speaker 1: he's hitting his marks, if he's going too fast, too slow,
Speaker 1: you know what's going on. But they do have the
Speaker 1: cars governed to a certain speed. And I don't know
Speaker 1: what that speed is. I'm going to make something up. Now.
Speaker 1: Let's say it's a hundred and thirty. Let's say they
Speaker 1: got him governed to a hundred and thirty to begin with,
Speaker 1: and they make sure that you're able to handle it
Speaker 1: at that speed. Well, as he was driving and he
Speaker 1: was doing maybe his you know, five, ten or fifteen laps,
Speaker 1: however many it was, I don't remember. As he was
Speaker 1: doing his laps, the spotter was realizing that he's doing
Speaker 1: a pretty good job out there, as were you know,
Speaker 1: several other drivers. They were doing the same thing, and uh,
Speaker 1: he was hitting his marks every time and he went around.
Speaker 1: He was doing really well, and they said, this is
Speaker 1: this is amazing to me that they can do this.
Speaker 1: He told him that he's going to dial up the
Speaker 1: governor to allow him to go a little bit faster
Speaker 1: and to be ready for it when it when it happens.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that they could do this remotely.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to come into the pits, didn't have
Speaker 1: to do anything remotely. They were able to kind of
Speaker 1: up the performance level of the v equal that he
Speaker 1: was in at that moment on the track and allow
Speaker 1: him to go faster. And he said it was a
Speaker 1: noticeable difference. He could feel it. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many more miles per hour it will. It allowed him
Speaker 1: to go, you know, if it was twenty or thirty
Speaker 1: more miles per hour faster, but he said it was
Speaker 1: a notable difference in the speed. And I was just
Speaker 1: blown away by that that they could even do that remotely, uh,
Speaker 1: and kind of allow him to go faster. And they
Speaker 1: were doing that for certain people on the track at
Speaker 1: the same time. It's just such a cool thing and
Speaker 1: and they're making so many advances with this stuff. It's
Speaker 1: just fun to get out there and do it. It's
Speaker 1: it's so much fun. And I know I'm I sound
Speaker 1: like I'm gushing about all this stuff, and I really am,
Speaker 1: because there are so many different experiences that you can
Speaker 1: do and so many interesting things that you can do.
Speaker 1: And and if you're not one to drive, let's say
Speaker 1: that you're not one that he wants to go out
Speaker 1: and take the risk. Initially, maybe you're you're a little
Speaker 1: bit tapid about it. You're you're nervous about it. A
Speaker 1: lot of these have an experience that you can pay for.
Speaker 1: It's often a lot less money that you can ride
Speaker 1: along with an instructor. And you may think that's kind
Speaker 1: of a kind of a wimpy way to start, right,
Speaker 1: but that's not necessarily the case for everybody. Maybe they
Speaker 1: just want to get the get out there and get
Speaker 1: the field for it before they do it themselves. And
Speaker 1: that's completely worthwhile too, because you have a professional that
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing. They can instantly go out there
Speaker 1: and and turn fast laps and you can have a
Speaker 1: fantastic time doing that as well. Um My dad opted
Speaker 1: to pay a little bit extra on that same day
Speaker 1: for a ride along with somebody because the speed was
Speaker 1: going to be so much greater. And he said, it
Speaker 1: really was a dramatic difference in the way that the
Speaker 1: professional driver was driving versus the way he was driving.
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't know if it came down to,
Speaker 1: you know, the way the car was governed or not,
Speaker 1: but he said, you know, you're getting close enough to
Speaker 1: the wall with a professional driver that you could reach
Speaker 1: out and almost touch the wall, or you could reach
Speaker 1: out and touch the wall. If you wanted to do
Speaker 1: that at you know, a hundred and eighty miles an
Speaker 1: hour or whatever it was, you wouldn't want to do that,
Speaker 1: but he said that it was. It was so worth
Speaker 1: whatever the extra amount was. I think it was just
Speaker 1: kind of an add on thing at that point, but
Speaker 1: he said it was actually worthwhile to do it, even
Speaker 1: though he had driven himself. He said, it was just
Speaker 1: that much more thrilling to be going that much faster
Speaker 1: and with somebody who had ultimate control of this thing,
Speaker 1: and you know, you could feel comfortable in it and
Speaker 1: really experienced the track to its maximum I guess at
Speaker 1: that point, or the car to its maximum. But you know,
Speaker 1: I again, I know I sound like I'm gushing about this,
Speaker 1: and I really am. It's just it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I know it's not for everybody. But if you if
Speaker 1: you do have kind of an automotive checklist that you
Speaker 1: want to do certain things before you pass away or
Speaker 1: too old to do them, or you know, whatever your
Speaker 1: your situation, maybe I say it's worthwhile. And whether you
Speaker 1: know whether that's even getting like I like, in my case,
Speaker 1: I got that project car. But let's say that you
Speaker 1: want to buy a car that's, you know, fully operational,
Speaker 1: and you want you just you just want that experience
Speaker 1: of owning something. I talked to our producer Kirk before
Speaker 1: the show here and I said, do you have any
Speaker 1: kind of an automotive wish list? And he said that
Speaker 1: he has always wanted a nineteen to nineteen fifty seven Chevy,
Speaker 1: preferably a Nomad of some kind. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a beautiful car. And I agree with him, But it
Speaker 1: would be fun to own something like that at some point,
Speaker 1: before you know, you're done owning cars, maybe if you want,
Speaker 1: I guess that's a polite way to put it, you know,
Speaker 1: before you're too old to drive on really, Kurt Um
Speaker 1: and I have cars like that too. I would love to, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, at some point in my life, I'd love
Speaker 1: to own a Lotus vehicle, whether that happens to be,
Speaker 1: you know, a newer model or something that's older. I
Speaker 1: would love to have a Lotus of leven at some point. Um.
Speaker 1: I think just about everybody has a vehicle like that
Speaker 1: or has you know, something that they want to do.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a road trip on Root sixty six, or
Speaker 1: it's the Pacific Ghost Highway or you want to go
Speaker 1: to Europe and drive around, you wanted to, um, just
Speaker 1: experienced driving in a car that is a left hand
Speaker 1: drive versus a right hand drive. UM, just you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be. I think everybody has at
Speaker 1: least something like this that they want to do while
Speaker 1: they're driving, while they're still a driving agent. And I
Speaker 1: think it rekindles that fire. It brings that spark back
Speaker 1: to your automotive interest and your your your enjoyment of
Speaker 1: life and it and it really does help. And I'm
Speaker 1: definitely gonna find myself back at the at the Porsche
Speaker 1: driving experience, I know, sometime in the near future, probably
Speaker 1: on my own dime. I don't know if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get it as a gift anymore, but but it was
Speaker 1: so worthwhile that I will be back at some point
Speaker 1: to do that again. It was just it was a blast,
Speaker 1: and I recommend it to anybody that can do it.
Speaker 1: I really do. And you know, I know that's been
Speaker 1: a lot of information to take in today, but check
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Speaker 1: car that was kind of on a bucket list of
Speaker 1: vehicles for them, or have taken a road trip that
Speaker 1: they've always wanted to do. Maybe it's drive to the
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