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Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Ludington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It Crew, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is. Today,

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Speaker 1: I am flying solo without my work wife, but I

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Speaker 1: am joined by someone super exciting, Bryce Dallas Howard, and

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Speaker 1: I'm equally as excited and nervous to have her on

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Speaker 1: because you guys, I've been a fan for a really

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Speaker 1: long time, and I'm gonna have to geek out a

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Speaker 1: little bit. She's been an everything I've loved. I've loved

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Speaker 1: her in the Village, i loved her in Jurassic World,

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Speaker 1: She's directed Star Wars, and she's a new documentary called

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Speaker 1: Pets Out on Disney Plus. I'm going to bring her

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Speaker 1: in because we have so much to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Everyone. Welcome Bryce Dallas Howard.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Bryce Dallas Howard, Welcome to Call It What It Is.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here today. I know

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Speaker 1: you're so crazy busy. I spent the morning watching Pets,

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Speaker 1: your new documentary that you directed on Disney Plus, and

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Speaker 1: in the first ten minutes I was giggling so hard.

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Speaker 1: I was chuckling like I and I woke up in

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Speaker 1: a really funky mood. And I have to say that

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Speaker 1: watching the documentary made me so happy, like literally bright

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Speaker 1: in my day.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding.

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Speaker 3: Yay, that is the hope, that's that's the intention, because

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Speaker 3: that's what pets do, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I was surrounded by my dogs.

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Speaker 1: I have three rescue dogs, so they were with me

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Speaker 1: and one of the dogs. There's a part of the

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Speaker 1: documentary where there's a guy like out canoeing with this

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Speaker 1: female dog that looks just like my dog, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, look, this is what you could be doing

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Speaker 1: if I was more active.

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Speaker 3: But after it's definitely like in a kayak off the

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Speaker 3: coast of Spain, and he has this adorable little doll

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Speaker 3: yeah the street. Yeah, and she's just a complete rock star.

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Speaker 3: And they're living this like wish fulfillment life for life

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Speaker 3: for both like dogs and humans alike. It's yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: someone gets to live like that. But Sergei does, Sergei does.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about why you ended

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Speaker 1: up creating this documentary, sort of what research went into it.

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Speaker 1: How did you find these kids too? I was like,

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Speaker 1: how does she find them? You want TikTok searching for you? Like,

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Speaker 1: how did you find all these people to be part

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Speaker 3: Well, it was pets. I love pets, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: one of those folks that you know, like I'm sending

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Speaker 3: videos early in the morning of just like the pet

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Speaker 3: things that I find that crack me up. And I'm

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Speaker 3: always taking pictures of my pets, and you know, they're

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Speaker 3: just it's it's a whole, it's it's just a huge

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Speaker 3: part of my life and always has been, and I

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Speaker 3: feel very lucky for that. And as I was making

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Speaker 3: the movie Dads, which I did a few years ago,

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Speaker 3: which is really a celebration of, you know, of dads

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Speaker 3: and that that specific form of love, I kept being like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, We've got to do this for pets.

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Speaker 3: We have to do this for pets, because there there

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Speaker 3: are documentaries that I mean, you know, and there's plenty

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Speaker 3: I've just looping back to your casting question, like I've

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Speaker 3: seen documentaries for kids about like wildlife and whatnot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I love talking to kids about their pets, maybe

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Speaker 3: even more than adults. I don't know. It's pretty much

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Speaker 1: So I agree because even talking to my kids about

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Speaker 3: The thing that really blew my mind. And just to

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Speaker 3: quickly answer your casting question, the producer of this project,

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Speaker 3: who is my partner in every single in every single way,

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Jamison. She started as a casting director, so she

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Speaker 3: and they're the being you know that is your pet.

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Speaker 1: So. I have a four year old little boy, Lucas,

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Speaker 1: and he we have three rescue dogs.

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Speaker 1: When you were saying that, it brings me to times

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Speaker 1: when he comes up to us and he's like, Mommy,

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Speaker 1: It's like he has that parental instinct over these puppies,

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Speaker 1: Did you Were you in a family that had animals,

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Speaker 1: My mom was super allergic, and so I always wanted dogs.

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Speaker 1: only reason that I didn't, my husband was like, I

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, but did you grow up with pets?

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Speaker 3: I did? I did. I I was really lucky. My

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Speaker 3: That was perfect because it's sort of like as a

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Speaker 1: My daughter, we just went through this with my daughter

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Speaker 3: The gatekeeping stop gatekeeping them.

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Speaker 2: But she finally just got her first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then what's so funny is that story about

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a snake person, but I do

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Speaker 1: think the corn snakes are very very cute. We got

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Speaker 3: Apparently they're like friendly and emotional and like really really really,

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Speaker 3: I you know, there was a real I felt loved.

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Speaker 3: felt loved. But what's interesting is I'm still terrified of snakes.

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Speaker 2: It's just really just that one.

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Speaker 1: Was it like love at first sight as a kid

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Speaker 1: intimation and I don't know what that but this has

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Speaker 1: talked about on your documentary though. Actually that moment where

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Speaker 1: there are just some like there's a there's a guy

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Speaker 2: The trap King, right, the trap King. He made me

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Speaker 1: But he has a story about how, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: to your Dorothy a little bit. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: maybe that snake was that for that for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in many ways, yes, Sterling. Sterling talks about that

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Speaker 3: and that's even more that's that's more pressure, you know.

438
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 3: So I have a lot of respect for, you know,

439
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: anyone who steps into the role of being a showrunner.

440
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: I do remember when your episodes came out, though, and

441
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 1: fans absolutely were obsessed with your episodes. They're obsessed with

442
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: you as a director of them.

443
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: I'll never, I honestly will never get over the level

444
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: of warmth and support that I have felt from the

445
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: Star Wars community. It is so meaningful, and I do

446
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: not feel entitled to it at all. It doesn't always

447
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: have to happen. I do really like, I really rely

448
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: on the feedback, so I want everyone to always be

449
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: honest at every point act that that. It's been just

450
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 3: a lot of just so much, so much encouragement.

451
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: It's it's so it's so meaningful just seeing all these

452
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: tweets about the episode that had come out and you

453
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, because it's like.

454
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: Female director in Star Wars. Oh my god, you know,

455
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: I was like so excited. I felt like it was

456
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: a win for all of us.

457
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: Right, Oh my gosh, that means so much now. I'm

458
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: I just forever, forever pinching myself that, you know, getting

459
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 3: to play in that sandbox and then that you know,

460
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: just yeah, yeah, yeah, to survive anything is amazing for

461
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: you know, there to be that much support, and I

462
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: just feel very grateful.

463
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 1: Do you feel like your passion now lies more with

464
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: directing than acting? Like, if you had to just pick

465
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: one lane to move forward, do you.

466
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: Know what that would be for you?

467
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: I like how you framed that, because like, normally it's

468
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: for me, I don't. I don't have a like I

469
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: want to keep doing both. But if I have had

470
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: one lane moving forward, I would at this chapter lean

471
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: into directing more. And I and I am because I

472
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: love love love acting and I love love love directing,

473
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: and Pets is going to be, you know, or is

474
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: my second documentary feature. But I would love to direct

475
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: a narrative feature, you know, I would love to have

476
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 3: a show and direct pilots and all of that, and

477
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: so there are definitely there are there are you know,

478
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: I don't normally use this word I'm not it's not

479
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: a dirty word. But I don't even look at myself

480
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: as being ambitious. But I do have like certain ambitions,

481
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: Like there are things that I'm like, oh, it would

482
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: be great if I could direct a feature in my life.

483
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I think ambitious is such a great word though, right,

484
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Like I love that.

485
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: I love that for you, I love that for all

486
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: of us. I want to see that.

487
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's it's it's important. It's it's important to

488
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: have have things that are important. Sometimes because I'm not

489
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: a competitive person and not competitive, which I think is

490
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: like a happier it's like a happy, happier existence. Yeah,

491
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: it can take a little bit of the Like sometimes

492
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: people when they're competitive, they're clearer about what their goals are.

493
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 3: Where when you're just sort of like I just you know,

494
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: like I want to you know, be a good human being.

495
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 3: Oh yes, challenge and of course, you know, support my

496
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: family and just just all of that. It's that becomes

497
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: a little the goals become a little less clear, and

498
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: so just being like, yeah, if I had to be

499
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: in one lane moving forward and stick to one lane,

500
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: it would be directing. Wow, And I do have goals

501
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: that I haven't achieved yet that I would, you know,

502
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: would be amazing to get to achieve in this lifetime.

503
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: My I've been a fangirl of you for a really

504
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: long time. Oh my god, yes, really long. I'm a

505
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: huge horror movie fan. And so The Village was I

506
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: was obsessed with the Village. It was not like your

507
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: first big breakout role, because that's my movie first movie

508
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: ever was The Village.

509
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

510
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yeh, that's like, that is insane. You're incredible

511
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: in it. I have so many moments from that movie

512
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: that I used to make my husband watch over and

513
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: over with me. And in fine you laugh, But okay,

514
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: there's one moment in this in the movie where like

515
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: the monster whatever that being is is creeping up and

516
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: you hold out your hand and walking phoenix s grabs

517
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: it in that slow mouth.

518
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: I literally you're gonna laugh.

519
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: I send that scene to my husband back in the

520
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: early days of dating, and I'm like, I feel like

521
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: this is us, Like you would just like take my hand.

522
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if he remembers that, I have to

523
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: ask him. That's how obsessed with that movie I was.

524
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: And then okay, so what was it like getting that

525
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: movie I did not see the ending coming. I know

526
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: this is a million years ago for you, but just

527
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: as a fangirl, I have to ask you the process

528
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: of making that movie and m Night Shallaman what he

529
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: was like to work with.

530
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was well, it was such a

531
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: kind of mind blowing experience I had done. I had

532
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: been auditioning for movies but had gained zero traction. I

533
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: don't think I was very I was like a little

534
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: big in my auditions. You know. I have a lot

535
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: of energy, and so just wasn't wasn't really getting callbacks

536
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: or anything. But I was. I was getting I was

537
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: working in theater, and so I had done I was

538
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: like twenty twenty one, and I had done by then

539
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: a Broadway run, a regional run, an off Broadway run,

540
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: and I was doing I was playing Rosalind in As

541
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: You Like It at the Public Theater, and Roslind is

542
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: a character who has like the most lines out of

543
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: like any any female Shakespearean character. And I was and

544
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: I was doing a show. And I was actually cast

545
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: like sort of last minute. I replaced someone who like

546
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: booked a pilot who had already been like performing it,

547
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: and so it was like sort of this like crazy

548
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: thing me just doing this show. And pretty early on performing,

549
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: I looked out and I like looked in the audience

550
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: because I'm obsessed with him night Shyamalan, and I was

551
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: obsessed with six Cents and obsessed with them break and

552
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: watched like the DVDs like extras of Unbreakable like NonStop,

553
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 3: just couldn't get enough of it. And I looked out

554
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: into the crowd and I was like, wait, that's a

555
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: night Shyamalan sitting in the crowd. And he had a

556
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: white shirt on. It was like he had a spotlight

557
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: on him and he waited.

558
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: He's very recognizable. Yeah, yeah, yeah he is.

559
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: He is totally And he waited afterwards with his wife

560
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: and they introduced themselves and he was in his early

561
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: thirties at the time. And a few weeks later he

562
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: reach out to my agent and asked to go to lunch,

563
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: and at lunch he handed me a Manila envelope and

564
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: was like, this is the script to my movie. I

565
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: would like you to play the lead. And I was like, what,

566
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: you don't want me to audition? And he went no,

567
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: because I don't want to give the studio a chance

568
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: to say no. To this.

569
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: I know, I know this is just like you guys listening,

570
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: This never happens. This is the stuff that you land

571
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: in Hollywood and you dream of happening and then you

572
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: know it doesn't ever. Okay, So if that happened to me,

573
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I'd be a little bit intimidated because

574
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: I would almost wonder if I'm right for it since

575
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm not auditioning. The audition is like it's sometimes a

576
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: confirmation that, like, you were right for this role. So

577
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: when you were there on set on that first day,

578
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: it's your big role, you haven't even had to audition

579
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: for it.

580
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 2: Were you freaking out a little bit?

581
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: So?

582
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: No, And I'll tell you why I love it. I know.

583
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: Night was awesome. Night was I was the first person

584
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: cast other than Joaquin and Woquing Phoenix, and I had

585
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: had a giant crush on.

586
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Joaquin Phoenix since Gladiator.

587
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: No, when he was in Parenthood and I was Parenthood

588
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: and we were on on location education together in the

589
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: trailer and I was he was twelve, and I was like,

590
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: I'm gone with the hospital's guy.

591
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's way back, way back. But real life,

592
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: real life crush, real life Okay, now he's been cast

593
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: as the Love and trust you guys, I'm sweating for you.

594
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: Here we are, Here we are and a night. Knowing

595
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: that this was my first movie, he he was like, Okay,

596
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: we're going to start rehearsing immediately, and so he would

597
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: book a car for me to come out from I

598
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: was living in New York at the time, to come

599
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: out from New York to to out Bucks County, Pennsylvania,

600
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: where he was living, which was, you know, like a

601
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: three hour drive, and I would go out there at

602
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 3: least a few times a week and I would sit

603
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: with him and we would go through the script and

604
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: then I would sort of like almost shadow him in

605
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: a way, so I would get to I would sit

606
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 3: with him while he was like with the storyboard artist.

607
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: I would sit with him while he was like going

608
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: through other casting things. I would sit with him when

609
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: he was like starting to talk with like the composer.

610
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: And I I don't know why he he he knew

611
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: to do that, but because I never articulated this, but

612
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: that's how I was raised. I was I was the oldest,

613
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: and I was always with my dad on set, and

614
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: I would just be shadowing him. I would just be

615
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: like with him at all times, and because the younger

616
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: ones were like very overwhelming, and they were twins, and

617
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: then another one two years after, and so it was

618
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: like they were at home and I came to set

619
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: and and and so I ended up feeling very comfortable.

620
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: The comfort that I felt because of the privilege of

621
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: growing up in the industry and particularly spending so much

622
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: time on a movie set, which is like such a

623
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: rare occurrence for a person to be on a movie

624
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: set unless you like have a job on the lucky lucky, lucky, lucky,

625
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: privileged beyond. And then Night sort of replicated that dynamic.

626
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: So the questions that I had so many questions were

627
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: being answered as I was just privy to his process

628
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: as a filmmaker and as a director. By then i'd

629
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: been I'd already been directing theater and all that kind

630
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: of stuff, and I was like, oh my god, the

631
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: way this man works is so unique, so remarkable, so disciplined,

632
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 3: so creative, Oh my god, it was just mind blowing,

633
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: so genuinely. For six months now, I worked with me

634
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: and then separately, you know, I was doing a lot

635
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: of research and a lot of work and and I

636
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: and I do it's important for me to say this,

637
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: uh uh. As much as I I loved playing I

638
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 3: v Walker uh And you know, what a great character

639
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: and there is a supernatural as to to her, and

640
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: you know, and and the movie at large, that's a

641
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: that's a visually impaired character. And I'm not visually impaired.

642
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: And there are like so many dough actors out there

643
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: who would have killed at that part. So I am

644
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: looking forward to you know, more movies happening like The

645
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: Village and for it to be cast in a way

646
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 3: authentic to the character. So it's really important to say that.

647
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: And I and I really at the time, I really appreciated,

648
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: uh and and valued enormously all the incredible individuals you know,

649
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: from the blind community who were I would not have

650
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: been able to do that performance had I not been

651
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: you know, learning from them and talking to them and

652
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: consulting and all that kind of stuff. So very very

653
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: very very grateful and and yes, and and and we

654
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: can do better.

655
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: But I know, I love that you said that I

656
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: thought you were beautiful in the movie.

657
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: I really was such a fan.

658
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: And I also love that you said that too. Are

659
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: your kids kind of wanting to be in industry for sure,

660
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: for sure. Okay, cool. It's funny because my daughter, So,

661
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be an actress from like five

662
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: years old. I was obsessed with the Wizard of Oz,

663
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: I obsessed with Annie. And my daughter got to do

664
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: a production of Annie when she was like so seven,

665
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, this was my dream.

666
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: I never got to do this, and she walked off

667
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: the stage. It was like a local community little thing.

668
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: She walked off the stage, and I said, oh my god,

669
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: how was that? And she was like, I hated it

670
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: so boring?

671
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, so horrified.

672
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: It's not that I want her in the industry, but

673
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: I was like, she just doesn't have that thing right now.

674
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: And I honestly hope that she kind of doesn't right

675
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: because we know what it's like to be in our

676
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: industry is really tough. And she's actually a beautiful artist.

677
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: But I don't think any of my husband's an actress too.

678
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: I don't think our genetics have at all spread to

679
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: the kids with the acting vibe.

680
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: That could change. So I when I was a kid,

681
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: I was like I said, I was kind of like

682
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: a you know, quiet and a dreamer and my dad

683
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: would said that he would go to the he would

684
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: go to the play because he was like a child actor.

685
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: So and I was like a cute little kid, and

686
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: so we was like, Oh, she's gonna be dazzling on

687
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: the street, stand in the back and just like mouths

688
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: and clearly didn't know any of the song, just like

689
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: what yes, And it just wasn't It didn't. It didn't

690
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: switch on for me until until later. There were a

691
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: few kind of things that I was like, whoa, whoa,

692
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: whoa whoa. But it was like I remember I was

693
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: going to an academic camp that my parents were like,

694
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: why are you doing this? Brightce when I was between

695
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: like seventh and eighth grade and like eighth grade and

696
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: ninth grade, and it was at Vassar. It was super

697
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: super fun and they had a theater kind of they

698
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: had like a theater program as part of the summer program.

699
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: But it never occurred to me to sign up for it.

700
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm here to study debate and

701
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 3: philosophy and psychology and I sign up to come to

702
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: Vassar to take college level courses and why would I

703
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: do theater? Like what, like yeah, you know, it's so

704
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: weird that that didn't really occur to me. So I

705
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: wasn't I wasn't really a kid that that was thinking acting.

706
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: I did want to be on a set. All I

707
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: wanted was to be on a set. My parents had

708
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: total control over me because if they even began to

709
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: threaten the possibility of me not being able to go

710
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: to the set and the next day, I was going

711
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: to cooperate.

712
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: What did you love about it?

713
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: Because right now when I bring my kids, they love

714
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: the Crafty truck.

715
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 2: They love it. They're like, they know that there's.

716
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: A bunch of cookies, but other than that, and they

717
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: do like sitting there and listen. But then you know,

718
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: forty five minutes in, they're like, are we going to go? So?

719
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: What was it that you loved about being there as

720
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: a kid?

721
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 3: So Crafty is the perfect gateway. When I was seven,

722
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 3: my first my first like in quotes job on set

723
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: was I because I wanted to help and that was

724
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: kind of the idea to my parents were like, you

725
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: don't get to like hang around unless you're helping because

726
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: no one on everyone on set has a job, and so,

727
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: uh so I would help with squeezing the orange juice

728
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: in the morning at Craft Service. But then I really

729
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: I like, I loved Craft Service so much, and like

730
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: by the time I was eleven, they had to like

731
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: release a memo at some point and they're like, if

732
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: you see right headed children by Craft Service, please guide

733
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: them to a village because they do not belong there.

734
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: When I would, I think it was it was that

735
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: there were like I would go, I would go into

736
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: work in the morning with my dad and he would

737
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: kind of talk through the shot list and he would

738
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: you know, he made it really interesting because I was

739
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: really included in his process, and so I was almost

740
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: like a game. Like I knew that he had had,

741
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: you know, seven setups before lunch and these situations and

742
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: how are they going to figure it out? And the

743
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: actor was dealing with X, Y or Z and I

744
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: had heard that, and so so I was always I

745
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: was always it was very active, and it never felt boring.

746
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: Never felt boring, Okay, going back to the village for

747
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: a moment. I was so kind of trained in my

748
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: head like when you're good, you're on set. When you're

749
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 3: like being punished, you're not on set. That I would

750
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: wrap like with the village and if they had like

751
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: additional setups without me. I would literally be like, can

752
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: I just.

753
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: Sign out and set and hang out and I can.

754
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: Like go and help prep the wicks. Can I just

755
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: get to like going from department to department and and yeah,

756
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: they finally like they were like, they were like, yeah,

757
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: you can out and just hanging your trailer. And I

758
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: was like, no, I either want to be on set,

759
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: but if it's like a close set in this moment,

760
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: I'd rather just go and hang in the trailers. And

761
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I did not feel comfortable leaving until

762
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: everybody else was gone. Wow.

763
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: I have to admit I'm not as professional or as

764
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: passionate as that, because when I get to go, I'm in.

765
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: My car, I'm so tired. Oh yeah, but.

766
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: That's how I am. Now that's totally I like, how

767
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: I am it? No, that's I'm like, yeah, but everyone

768
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: I love it. I light up when I'm yeah, No,

769
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's a lot, it's a lot.

770
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: It is Those are Those are long days, people, They

771
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: can be seventeen hour plus days.

772
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: Acting were tiring than directing, I think, oh, oh a

773
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: lot more tiring than directing.

774
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: Oh that's so interesting, by a lot.

775
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: My opinion.

776
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I've never done.

777
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of actors on our show

778
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: that end up directing, and I've been asked if it's

779
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: something that I'm interested in. I would love to direct

780
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: a comedy. That's what I would like to do. I

781
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: would just that's one of my dreams to be able

782
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: to do that at some point.

783
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: But I'll have.

784
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: To report back what I find more exhausting if I

785
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: get to actually have the honor of doing that one day.

786
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: I have to tell you that my daughter also loves

787
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: you because she loves spooky things. She loves creepy things

788
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: and scary things, and I have held off on letting

789
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: her watch anything scary and then the first movie Listen,

790
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: I don't judge me because maybe it's not appropriate. I

791
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: let her watch earlier this year Jurassic World. Okay, yeah,

792
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: well she's eight. I don't know if it's a little young.

793
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a little young, but we

794
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: watched it. She is so obsessed with that movie and

795
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: her favorite part is my part. And my husband was like,

796
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: you have to tell her that you made us watch

797
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: the slow mo run out of the two where you

798
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: had to open the t Rex cage and then you

799
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: run out slow mo I, like you know when you

800
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: said in a movie theater and you get goosebumps. That

801
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: was a goosebump scene for me, and my daughter loves

802
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: it too.

803
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: So I asked her if.

804
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: She wanted me to ask you anything, And she wanted

805
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: me to ask you if you could pick your favorite

806
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: dinosaur between Blue, who is the he's a lot, yes, yes,

807
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: and the t Rex. And I was like, I'll have

808
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: to ask her.

809
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's a tough tough that's a tough one.

810
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: Because Blue is trainable the t Rex isn't.

811
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: But the t Rex did kind of help say the

812
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: day with Blue in that I don't know, it must.

813
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Be complicated for you. I understand.

814
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: The way the way I think about Rexy is like

815
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: she's really she's the true lead of the entire franchise,

816
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: Like she's in every movie. She's like the true like

817
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: the true lead. She's number one on the call sheet,

818
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: number one on the call shop.

819
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: Yeah she should be Yes.

820
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So I love like I I should. I should

821
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: choose the t Rex because I've ran from her. I

822
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: ended up riding on her back a little bit when

823
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: she was passed out during Fallen Kingdom. There's like definitely

824
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: a lot of connections there, yes, But Blue as as

825
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: a character is so is so exciting because it's it

826
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: sort of gets into like the pets territory where it's like,

827
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is like this is like a

828
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: very dangerous animal where there's a relationship with and and

829
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: especially when boot Blue is not in captivity anymore, it's

830
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 3: like and you see that, like choices are made in

831
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: support of the relationship and the bond between Blue and

832
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: Owen Grady. I'm like all about that. I love I

833
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: love that so much. And I think I always felt

834
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: like it was something that that all of us talked

835
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: about and that Chris Pratt in particular was really focused

836
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: on sort of not not making Blue overly cuddly. Keeping

837
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 3: the danger real is uh is so much a part

838
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: of the peal of appeal of it because then you're like,

839
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: oh my gosh when she's like, you know, trying to

840
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: help out take down the indominous Rex.

841
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: I know, we just saw you.

842
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: We went to it was spring break and we went

843
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: to Universal Studios last week and we just saw you.

844
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: On the ride. Have your kids done that ride? And

845
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: do they are they like that's mom or are they like,

846
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: oh god, that's mom my.

847
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: God? You know what is the creepy thing? And this

848
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: is like classic like how we started with me being

849
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: like like my dad hasn't even yeah, like that's going

850
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: to be coming up. I have no idea. I have

851
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 3: no idea. They have totally been to Universal. They go

852
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 3: to Universal fright night.

853
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: You're in that ride, you're one of the you have

854
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 2: a little thing.

855
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: Where you don't done it.

856
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: They didn't report back anything.

857
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: No, we're impressed, nonplussed, not impressed. You can't even be

858
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: a ride at Universal Studios.

859
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what. How do we win our kids over?

860
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: What can we do? I don't know what we could do.

861
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: There's nothing. There's nothing that we can do. There's there's

862
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: there's nothing. We just have to wait for the hormones

863
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: to settle. And then one.

864
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: Day, in thirty years from now they have kids, Yeah,

865
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: then they'll be on the ride and they'll be like, look,

866
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: there's Grandma, and that'll be the moment.

867
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: It's true. I mean when I when I was a

868
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: kid growing up and my dad was filming Apollo thirteen,

869
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: it was at the Universal back lot, and and I was,

870
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: you know, like helping out on set and stuff like that,

871
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: and I was in charge of getting all the lunch

872
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 3: orders together and your crafty dreams related. Yeah, yeah, And

873
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: when after lunch and after everything was cleaned up, I

874
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 3: would always have like a little break and sometimes I

875
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: would like go into the park and ride the rides,

876
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: which is like so fun. And there was a backdraft

877
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: ride that my dad was in and I remember being

878
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: impressed with that.

879
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: I think you got to ask them. I'd be like,

880
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: I know you guys have been and I know I'm

881
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: on ront.

882
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: Of those rides. We have yet to discuss.

883
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: They must have, they must have.

884
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: I have one last question for you before we go,

885
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: and it's very timely, and since you brought up Apollo thirteen,

886
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: I have to ask, yes, the first all female crew

887
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: that went up into space, Katie Perry. Everyone's talking about it.

888
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: So when they're talking about like space tourism, Now, if

889
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: you were offered the chance to go up into space,

890
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: would you take it?

891
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 2: Because I watched that launch and I was like, there's

892
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: no way, no, there's no way, I'm going, no way.

893
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: No.

894
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't help that you on the set of a

895
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: Pollo thirteen.

896
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's I

897
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 3: think the sensation probably of feeling weightless is you know, unbelievable.

898
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: In all of that, And when they were doing Apollo thirteen,

899
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: they did this thing called the Vomit Commet is what

900
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: they nicknamed it. Where is a plane that would like

901
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: drop and they would get twenty seven seconds of weightlessness?

902
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: Is that how they shot that?

903
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: How they freaking shot that movie? Insane? The insurance would

904
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 3: never cover it now and so and so that kind

905
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: of like weightless thing is wild.

906
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I could do that. I feel like

907
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: though they were only up there for apparently like four minutes,

908
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: it was like four minutes of weightlessness and the terror

909
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: of going up, and then they had the sound audio

910
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: of them coming down. Then are all just screaming. I

911
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: don't even like flying, Like, I don't know if the

912
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: four minutes is worth it, I really don't.

913
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched it. I was not jealous at all.

914
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 3: My mom would love to go to space. She would

915
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: love to go to space. Love it. And my one

916
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: of my nieces, my brother is like terrified because she's

917
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: we can just like all feel it. We're like, oh god,

918
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: she's going to be an astronaut. We can just feel it,

919
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: feel it like that is terrifying. And he's like, she's

920
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: gonna want to go to Mars.

921
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I know, I know, but I

922
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: futurize too with my kids too.

923
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Speaker 2: I would be like this too.

924
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, it's going to be a Venus trip

925
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: when she's twenty one. It's not gonna be Calma anymore.

926
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be Venus. Thank you so much for coming

927
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: on the pod.

928
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: Please everybody check out this incredible documentary Pets on Disney. Plus,

929
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: it makes for such a good family movie night.

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Speaker 2: That's my plan.

931
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Speaker 1: I watched it by myself drinking coffee this morning and

932
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: giggled and felt all the warmth and all the things.

933
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: And I've been wanting. You were on my original guest

934
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: list for this podcast day one, and so I'm just

935
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: so happy that you're finally here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,