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Speaker 1: Can you talk us through your evaluation and your touch

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you know, throughout the whole process evaluating the

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Speaker 2: quarterback prospects. Obviously Jackson was one of them and the

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Speaker 2: being in there for the thirty visits combine kind of

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Speaker 2: get him on Thursday, I had a private visit with him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was it was a very thorough process

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Speaker 3: They'd be able to go through that. Obviously, you get

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Speaker 2: That you really like and you really.

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Speaker 3: You know, thinking has has potential to do something.

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Speaker 2: You know, you take a shot at him, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Ron of things, and as you know, he was your guy.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was late. I'd say it was.

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Speaker 2: Relatively early, just because you're you know, you get the

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Speaker 2: more touch points you have with him, the more your

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Speaker 2: confidence you get, and the more you see him, you know,

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Speaker 2: fitting into your your system and your scheme, and so,

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Speaker 2: you know, I felt really confident about how he operated,

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Speaker 2: how he studied, how he prepared, how you handled himself.

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Speaker 2: And then at the end of the day, his tape

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Speaker 2: and the way that he performed in those in those meetings.

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Speaker 1: On that tape that stood out too.

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Speaker 2: In his gamecause you know, you you watch a lot

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Speaker 2: to all the details of it, but you know, you

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Speaker 2: watch the explosive plays. You watch how he operates in

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Speaker 2: some of the off schedule, off platform plays that he has,

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Speaker 2: and you you know, you kind of watch that together

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Speaker 3: But those are things that stood out to me.

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Speaker 2: You know, his ability to kind of you know, play

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Speaker 3: Things like that. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Like you obviously had to wait through a draft night

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Speaker 3: What was that like for you?

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Speaker 2: You never really know how could go. You don't know

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Speaker 2: we're excited about the players we did, add happy to

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Speaker 2: get happy to have Jackson and you know all the

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Speaker 2: part of the process, part of the league, part of

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Speaker 2: trying to put together a you know, a good squad

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Speaker 4: You you're part of uh Patrick Malmes early in development

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, whenever you draft a quarterback early,

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Speaker 3: Really for any quarternety player you get, you want.

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Speaker 3: Is he on schedule?

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Speaker 2: Is he you know a little bit further behind, do

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Speaker 2: we need to like add or some crack certain things.

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Speaker 2: You try to put these little touch points on Okay,

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Speaker 4: How different would your role be with Dart as the

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Speaker 2: It'll it'll just be different based on just the nature

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Speaker 3: Your teach, your coaching mind.

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Speaker 2: Just like the specific job with the quarterback versus the

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Speaker 2: But being in those meetings with with the quarterbacks and

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Speaker 2: The the great thing about having those veterans is that

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Speaker 2: you don't really need to have to I mean they've

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Speaker 2: for Jackson, it's about you know, getting around those guys,

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Speaker 3: I think those are just great experiences to have.

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Speaker 2: And when you have a veteran in room and throw

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Speaker 3: So it's been a fun room.

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Speaker 2: So you know, so far as the spring has been

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Speaker 6: we've been asking you about Jackson and a lot of.

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Speaker 3: The times he goes to Jackson, but you know, you.

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Speaker 6: Have to also prepare the other quarterbacks to be ready

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Speaker 3: And I know it's only.

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Speaker 3: So for you guys. As a coaching staff, is there that.

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Speaker 6: Delicate balance of making sure that every day you're intentional

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Speaker 3: And get caught up to speed.

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Speaker 1: Mike ru Russ's career, you know, you know what he

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Speaker 3: Certainly last year with the Steelers. So you guys signed him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. I see a lot of things in

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Speaker 3: You see the.

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Speaker 2: Competitiveness that he brings, You see the demeanor that he brings.

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Speaker 6: Is there anything you've seen from Russ that you maybe

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Speaker 3: I'll take just him being around with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know again, I've just washed him from Afar,

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Speaker 2: But being around him in the quarterback room, he's he's great.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he has a really cool perspective, you know,

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Speaker 2: great for me to bounce ideas often because he has

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Speaker 2: right because you've played a lot of ball and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, he can you know, we can challenge

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Speaker 3: In terms of in terms of communication.

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Speaker 2: That's just with Ross, but with the whole quarterback room,

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Speaker 3: What you expect the offense to look like with him?

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Speaker 1: Like in your reaction when Dable said, for at least

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Speaker 3: The first two years. That's that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: The next part of it is, you know, the learning.

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Speaker 3: You're learning every year. You're learning and growing every year.

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Speaker 2: Other play callers across the league, you study them and

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Speaker 3: Men length with Dable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to get into like

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Speaker 2: end up bicking Evan Neil can be a good starting guardian. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Evan's doing a nice job. And you see in transition

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Speaker 2: nice job, you know.

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