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Speaker 2: Okay, Clive, what's up the general nation? Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Action Network podcast. This is the MLB Betting Update. I'm stucky,

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Speaker 2: and joining me today are the emotional Colin Wilson and

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Speaker 2: Sean Zerrero. Colin is sad, Zerillo is mad. We'll get

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Speaker 2: into an I share in both those sentiments. We'll get

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Speaker 2: into some of those reasons. Why, well, I guess you

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Speaker 3: Gonna be the greatest world series in the history of

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball because there's no college football to watch it.

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Speaker 3: Because there's no college football, this be the greatest world

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Speaker 2: We said, it's accurate. We need baseball to finish, and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of uncertainty, which we'll talk about before

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Speaker 2: For those who don't know, By the way, the elephant.

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Speaker 2: Back in the nineteen oh five one of the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants and the Philadelphia Athletics were baseball teams. The

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Speaker 2: New York Giants manager said that the Oakland Athletics were

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Speaker 2: basically a bad investment with no value. And then that

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Speaker 2: year the Philadelphia Athletics, Connie Mack was the manager before

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Speaker 2: they went to the World Series and played the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants, he gave a stuffed elephant as a gift.

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Speaker 2: They were friends to the New York Giants manager and

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Speaker 2: then the Giants ended up winning actually a couple of

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Speaker 2: years later. The rest is history. They had elephants on

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Speaker 2: their uniforms and that's the story there. So yeah, the

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Speaker 2: as we do whenever the A's cash art bets, which

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Speaker 2: they've been doing frequently this year. We'll get to them later,

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Speaker 2: but let me start with Zarillo. How you've been doing

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Speaker 2: so far this year in baseball? What are your overall

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Speaker 2: thoughts before we get into the run environment and humidors.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I clawed my way back to even over the

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Speaker 4: past we so feeling a little bit better about the

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Speaker 4: prognosis of how these bets are going. I mean, my

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Speaker 4: bets generally track with money lines, so for my profit,

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Speaker 4: I should say so hitting thirty percent over the first

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Speaker 4: couple weeks was an ideal back at fifty five percent

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Speaker 4: of the past week, so that's you know, from that

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Speaker 4: fifty percent over the course of the year. Are gonna

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Speaker 4: be pretty happy with money lines, just because I play

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Speaker 4: so much plus money. But I mean, hey, there's there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of shit to talk about from this week.

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Speaker 4: Rule changes with regards to the game being played on

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Speaker 4: the field. Rule changes with regards to how books are

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Speaker 5: Rule changes implemented by Major.

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Speaker 4: League Baseball since the last time we talked that are

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Speaker 4: directly going to affect the outcomes and probabilities of various

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Speaker 4: teams winning the World Series. There's so much get into

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Speaker 4: the There's so much that I'm absolutely furious about with

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Speaker 5: So happy to have baseball back.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to sound like a sports

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Speaker 4: media member who are rooting against sports being back, but

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Speaker 4: at the same time, this is an absolute shit show,

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Speaker 4: and there's things that we need to address to ensure

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Speaker 4: disappear the integrity of baseball betting along with people being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before we get into some of those issues, colin your.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts, Sean alluded to, you know, bookmakers having different rules.

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Speaker 3: We're playing seven inning games on days of doubleheaders. This

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Speaker 3: of money on a college football team and I needed

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Speaker 3: The only place I could find open was the wild

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Speaker 3: Day's In. That's what this Major League Baseball season feels like.

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Speaker 3: It's the wild Wild West, where we have seven inning games,

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Speaker 3: players opting out, can't find you on a suspetus book

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to some of that. Yeah, I'm doing

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Speaker 2: well so far this baseball year. But I never get

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Speaker 2: I'm doing, especially in baseball. It's the highest variance sport

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Speaker 2: and staying mentally stable is one of the most difficult

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Speaker 4: So pretty tough this season to keep even level emotionally

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Speaker 4: when you know you don't know what to expect from

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Speaker 4: that half the parks in baseball are using human orders

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Speaker 2: The Pirates series got canceled. That's fantastic news for me

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Speaker 2: because I keep losing money betting the Pirates, But I

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Speaker 2: don't we're gonna get to the Cardinals. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the hell is gonna happen with them. They are

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Speaker 2: teams have hit a collective under two forty nineteen sixty eight,

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Speaker 2: second time we're bringing up nineteen oh eight, nineteen oh nine.

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Speaker 2: These are some of the numbers that we're seeing. Also,

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Speaker 2: like nineteen seventy two. So some of the theories here,

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Speaker 2: we've learned that there's yesterday today that MLB secretly implemented

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Speaker 2: humid doors in a number of stadiums. You also, you know,

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Speaker 2: we have some new stadiums and some new which we'll

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Speaker 2: get to. You have no fans more shifting. Shifting is

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Speaker 2: You also have just pictures that look ahead of batters. Now,

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Speaker 2: You weren't seeing many different types of pictures people. I mean,

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Speaker 2: So those are all contributing to this reduced run environment.

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Speaker 2: And then this new hitting environment.

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Speaker 4: You still look at the bat of ball data and

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Speaker 4: is about forty points lower. It's held very consistently every

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Speaker 4: single year. The babbit has held very consistently every single year.

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Speaker 4: a twenty twenty season, the league babbit has fallen off

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Speaker 4: is causing offense to drop off completely. Fielders are less

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Speaker 4: Marcello is doing. He's incredibly entertaining to watch anytime he's

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Speaker 5: They've changed the rules of the game.

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Speaker 4: They lowered the mound in the sixties, you know, introduced

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Speaker 5: So I don't know what the plan is going forward.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what their their plan is insofar is

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Speaker 4: testing the data to make sure this is valid. But

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Speaker 4: MLB did switch from track Man to hawk Eye this year,

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Speaker 4: so there's a different caliber going on with regards to

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Speaker 4: It's also capturing more balls in play, so if you

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Speaker 4: better fielders, less distracted fielders, better pitches. It's a confluence

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Speaker 4: really just fucking livid at the fact that MLB apparently

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Speaker 4: hid the fact that they introduced three new humid oors.

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Speaker 4: When when they wanted to put a humid or into Arizona,

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Speaker 4: there was two years of arguments in debate going around,

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Speaker 4: fans getting angry that they were going to do it

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Speaker 4: before they did it, and they did it and it

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Speaker 4: do it. And now I have to read down twenty

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Speaker 4: paragraphs into a Ben Lindberg article where he says, oh,

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Speaker 4: by the way, they also introduced humidors this year. Are

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Speaker 4: I'm not just accepting a bunch of factors are causing

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Speaker 3: Well, it's nice to see Zarrillo come out of his

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Speaker 6: Is this a hitter's park. It's definitely a pitcher's park.

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Speaker 3: It's good for flyball pitchers, which is you know good,

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Speaker 6: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: So on Monday night, the Mariners had ten runs and

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Speaker 3: There's no rhyme or reason. We went through this shit

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Speaker 2: Eye on that. It's a great point. We want to

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Speaker 2: first time. Over recording this, but yeah, you mentioned the roof. Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Zerill your thoughts on we know that Arizona with the

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Speaker 4: So at originally made the park factor of Texas used

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Speaker 4: Home runs are a little bit up there, but it

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Speaker 5: That seems absurd.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Houston Stadium has had a roof

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Speaker 4: If you are looking to get a little bit more

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Speaker 5: In these parks that have humid ores.

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Speaker 4: You know, as far as I know, there's no official

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this about them about Toronto Blue

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Speaker 3: Now it is triple A. It's a launch pad for

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Speaker 3: But if you look at tonight's game, you're gonna listen

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, that's that's a good point because with generally

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Speaker 4: me that the wind is going to change directions mid

435
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Speaker 4: game tonight. So if I see a low scoring game early,

436
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Speaker 4: granted the Jays have been, I mean, there's a lot

437
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Speaker 4: of things that we have to take into consideration just

438
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Speaker 4: besides a game in and of itself. Teams who have

439
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Speaker 4: had days off seem to be struggling when they come back.

440
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Speaker 4: So it's still early in the season. Guys aren't fully

441
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Speaker 4: in tuned. But you know, in terms of taking a

442
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Speaker 4: look at something like how live weather is going to

443
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Speaker 4: change in game. That could be a way to exploit

444
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Speaker 4: an edge that most people aren't looking out for. The

445
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Speaker 4: books certainly isn't going to adjust to a live Wilder change.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I knew that they were opening the

447
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Speaker 2: roof in Arizona before they scored one hundred runs the

448
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Speaker 2: next inning. All right, Yeah, that's a good point of

449
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 2: teams coming back their offensive seem to be struggling. It's

450
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Speaker 2: you gotta be careful with sample sizes. Is always in baseball.

451
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Speaker 2: But like we have like a quarter of the season

452
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Speaker 2: done already, but these these hitters seem to already be

453
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Speaker 2: behind the eight ball, and now they take a week

454
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Speaker 2: or two off. You're not seeing live pitching and different

455
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Speaker 2: pitchers and stuff like that. There's only so much you

456
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Speaker 2: can do to simulate that with your own guys. So

457
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Speaker 2: that's something to keep in mind before we get go

458
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Speaker 2: through a lot of the divisions. Let's talk some of

459
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Speaker 2: these the betting rules. You know, you have always check

460
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Speaker 2: your book, right, So, like there's in Vegas. I know

461
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Speaker 2: I was talking with John Murray Westgate today. Win totals,

462
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Speaker 2: you got to play fifty nine games. We could see

463
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals have some games that they don't end up playing.

464
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Speaker 2: They forfit the season. Who knows what's gonna happen player

465
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Speaker 2: prop Some of them are fifty five fifty six games.

466
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Speaker 2: These games that gets suspenct now after five innings, they're

467
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Speaker 2: going to resume at a later date. The that's oils

468
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Speaker 2: from Sunday is going to resume after they finished five.

469
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Speaker 2: It's going to start on Friday in Vegas. They paid

470
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Speaker 2: them out because they completed five innings. But other books

471
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Speaker 2: they voided. Some books people were saying they avoided and

472
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Speaker 2: lost one side. So it is it's completely just like

473
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Speaker 2: we were saying before. It's it's chaos. It's a while

474
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Speaker 2: wild West, so make sure you check your books. You

475
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Speaker 2: also have this new listed versus action. If you want

476
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Speaker 2: to bet, you know listed picture. If you bet it

477
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Speaker 2: and then you that picture doesn't start, your bet is

478
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Speaker 2: obviously void action. It's a bet no matter what. If

479
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Speaker 2: you have a good model and you rely on it,

480
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Speaker 2: you probably want to use listed. If you have like

481
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Speaker 2: an information edge, maybe action NOL. Some books you could

482
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Speaker 2: find both out there. Some books started with action and

483
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Speaker 2: now are going to list it. And then we have

484
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Speaker 2: these seven inning games, which I still want to look

485
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Speaker 2: for unders in these, because I feel like it's more

486
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Speaker 2: of an incentive to not face the lineup a third time.

487
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Speaker 2: You don't not really worry about middle relief. You can

488
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Speaker 2: go you know your seventy eight nine guys can go

489
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Speaker 2: five six seven, And if your starter is throwing a

490
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Speaker 2: gem like Bower did in one of these, then your

491
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Speaker 2: under is probably looking good.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm making a very uncomfortable decision as to whether

493
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Speaker 4: to take a better price on Action or a worse

494
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Speaker 4: price on listed pictures. And that's not something is better

495
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Speaker 4: that I should have to do. I shouldn't have to

496
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Speaker 4: decide how I'm going to play a worse number because

497
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Speaker 4: this book is deciding to lock in my bet versus.

498
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Speaker 4: This book is deciding, yeah, we're only going to give

499
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Speaker 4: you that bet if these pictures pitch, which is generally

500
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Speaker 4: going back how I bet. I prior to this year,

501
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't bet action. I only bet listed pictures. I

502
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Speaker 4: told people only bet listed pictures because more often than not,

503
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Speaker 4: it feels like you get screwed out of the bet.

504
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Speaker 4: Obviously it goes some your way sometimes, but more often

505
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Speaker 4: than not, it just feels like it goes against you,

506
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Speaker 4: or at least you remember those more so to start with,

507
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Speaker 4: we need industry standards across the board, not just with

508
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Speaker 4: action versus listed pictures. But I'm talking about suspended in

509
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Speaker 4: shortened games. I'm talking about player props, strikeout props over

510
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 4: four and a half innings versus playing a full game wins,

511
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Speaker 4: same deal. We need an amendment to the pitcher wins

512
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Speaker 4: a rule. In baseball, starters are going one in two

513
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Speaker 4: innings more frequently than they ever have before. Obviously an

514
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Speaker 4: increase of openers. Pitchers not as conditioned early in this year.

515
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Speaker 4: But the game is different, you know, scorekeeping needs to

516
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Speaker 4: be different. I don't think pitchers should have to go

517
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Speaker 4: five innings to get a win anymore. And then if

518
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Speaker 4: they don't, it's up to the discretion of the scorekeeper

519
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 4: who to award the win too. But the scorekeeper have

520
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Speaker 4: discretion or just do it whenever the lead hand is.

521
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Speaker 4: But we need a new standard with regards to the

522
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Speaker 4: actual baseball rule. But then on top of that, the

523
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Speaker 4: betting industry, I mean, this is absurd. We have two

524
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Speaker 4: sets of rules. The Orioles Nationals game from the other day.

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Speaker 4: You know the fact that, as you've always mentioned, stucky

526
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Speaker 4: like a total that has been satisfied. I have always

527
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Speaker 4: thought should be paid out regardless of how long the

528
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Speaker 4: game goes. If it hasn't been satisfied, it should be

529
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Speaker 4: refunded if the over is hit like the does go

530
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Speaker 4: back to an advantage for the betters. Right, if you

531
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Speaker 4: expect ray to be in the forecast, like you almost

532
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Speaker 4: have a free roll on and over, knowing that if.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't go over, you're going to get it refunded.

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Speaker 4: But if you're going to tell me that some books

535
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Speaker 4: are going to create the Nationals game pay out the Orioles,

536
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: some books are going to refund it completely, and now

537
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Speaker 4: you have to scramble to figure out where to put

538
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Speaker 4: down your money because you don't know which book's going

539
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Speaker 4: to do what.

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Speaker 5: Or if you read the rules.

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Speaker 4: So just leave it pretty vague and say games are

542
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Speaker 4: official once it goes four and a half innings?

543
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Speaker 5: Well, what does that mean?

544
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Speaker 4: A game is never if major League Baseball and this

545
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Speaker 4: is unique to this year because all games they need

546
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Speaker 4: to be finished. If Major League Baseball says that a

547
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Speaker 4: game is not to the point where one team has

548
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Speaker 4: grabbed a big enough lead and we're going to call

549
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Speaker 4: this game official, how is the book going to call

550
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Speaker 4: your game official and call your bet official. It's very

551
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Speaker 4: rare that Baseball suspends a game, right typically one team

552
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Speaker 4: as a four run lead, they call it. That's it

553
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Speaker 4: games official. But we're in a unique circumstances yere where

554
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Speaker 4: one run games, games that are tied could be suspended.

555
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Speaker 4: And if a team took say a one nothing lead

556
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Speaker 4: in the first inning, and now it's the fifth inning

557
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: and they still have that one nothing lead, and it

558
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Speaker 4: gets suspended, you're gonna lose your bet because of that.

559
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Speaker 4: That seems completely unfair. My argument about the unfairness isn't

560
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Speaker 4: about the rule itself. It's about the fact that we

561
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Speaker 4: have no standard anymore with regards to how that's being

562
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Speaker 4: dolled out, and it's just leading to mass confusion. It's

563
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Speaker 4: leading to people who don't want to bet. It's a

564
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Speaker 4: bad experience for new betters. And from the standpoint of

565
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Speaker 4: Major League Baseball, trying to track young fans trying to

566
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Speaker 4: track better to their game just gonna piss people off.

567
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Speaker 4: So it's on major League Baseball to go to the

568
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Speaker 4: books and say you need to fix this. I'm glad

569
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Speaker 4: that Vegas has apparently adopted a uniform rule, but it's

570
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Speaker 4: not the same a Jersey. I know, DraftKings and fandor

571
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Speaker 4: refunded those bets, and then the league itself just deciding

572
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Speaker 4: to change rules on the fly is going to directly outcome,

573
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Speaker 4: you know, results on the season, results of player props

574
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Speaker 4: seven in games.

575
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Speaker 5: It's all just different.

576
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Speaker 4: I understand that they need to adapt to the environment,

577
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Speaker 4: but that doesn't and that we can't put in standards

578
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Speaker 4: in this industry to make it better and clearer and

579
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Speaker 4: easier for people to get money down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with you. Also, the one thing

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Speaker 2: I did want to mention that I forgot to mention

582
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Speaker 2: Bob bipp we talked about the hitting like this is

583
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Speaker 2: we're looking we're comparing this these numbers two years prior

584
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Speaker 2: when the numbers should be up, because this is August

585
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: in July, this is when Bob episode it's highest and

586
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: hitting numbers are usually the highest, So like it's even skewed.

587
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: It should be skewed a little higher because of that.

588
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Speaker 2: So it's even more extreme than we're making it out

589
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Speaker 2: to be. But the one thing I did want to

590
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Speaker 2: talk about really briefly is the playoff. So they expand

591
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Speaker 2: the playoffs the opening day or the dight before I

592
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Speaker 2: don't know when they announced it was. And opening yeah,

593
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Speaker 2: I'll be more exciting. You know, you'll have you have

594
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Speaker 2: more teams that it's expanded playoffs, but you're going to

595
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Speaker 2: have an opening round series, a three game series. As

596
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Speaker 2: someone who's like, feels really good about my Oakland Athletics

597
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: and all all of our oaklen Athletics features, and I

598
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Speaker 2: really like how strong the are. I mean, it's just

599
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Speaker 2: going to increase a lot of variance. I mean in

600
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Speaker 2: a three game series to start off. And now they're

601
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Speaker 2: talking about potentially doing a playoff bubble where it's just

602
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Speaker 2: who cares. Then if you have the best record during

603
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: the regular season, just get in. There's no home field advantage,

604
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Speaker 2: and in fact there maybe there's fans by them, but

605
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: there's still park advantages and now you construct your awster

606
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: and things of that nature. So the playoff the playoffs

607
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: have been sort of a mess. Any thoughts there?

608
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Speaker 6: The whole playoff structure itself.

609
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Speaker 3: If you don't know, if you didn't read the rules

610
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Speaker 3: when they first came out, you know they're going to

611
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Speaker 3: take eight teams when they're going to take the top

612
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Speaker 3: two seeds from each of the divisions, and then they're

613
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Speaker 3: going to take two wild cards after that. So if

614
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Speaker 3: you look at that, if you go to Zips like

615
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Speaker 3: today as we're podcasting this, they're forecasting six teams in

616
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Speaker 3: the National League to finish with thirty to go thirty

617
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Speaker 3: and thirty. I mean, so this is going to be

618
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Speaker 3: a very, very tight race. But if you look at

619
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Speaker 3: the whole fact that a division can take the second

620
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Speaker 3: seed in you're looking at an Astros team right now

621
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Speaker 3: that is seven and nine and they would be in

622
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, or an Angels team at six and eleven

623
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Speaker 3: they'd be a game and a half out. There's going

624
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Speaker 3: to be a sub five hundred team get into the playoffs.

625
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Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty ten Seahawks. I can't stop thinking about it.

626
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Speaker 4: I don't even know what the advantage is to winning

627
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: your division anymore. You're not going to get a home

628
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Speaker 4: field advantage in the playoffs. There's no point in pressing

629
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Speaker 4: down on your starters at the end of the year.

630
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Speaker 4: Just keep them healthy so and you might even get

631
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Speaker 4: a worse opponent, Like there might be a better team

632
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Speaker 4: that finishes in second place in their division and ends up.

633
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Speaker 5: Playing you as the division winner, and you get screwed.

634
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Speaker 4: Because of it, they should be allowed to hand pick

635
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Speaker 4: their opponents the division winners.

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Speaker 5: I think that's probably the.

637
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Speaker 4: Most echable way to do it, to at least give

638
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Speaker 4: them some sort of advantage because they're not getting home

639
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: field advantage, you know.

640
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Speaker 5: But I think a bubble is the only way to

641
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Speaker 5: do it.

642
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Speaker 4: Jeff pison A had a really good Vita to Day

643
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Speaker 4: kind of explaining why they need to do it, and

644
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Speaker 4: I think it's almost indisputable. Like if one team has

645
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: the same issue that the Cardinals or Tiger's sad or

646
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: said the Marlins, it's going to be a total disaster.

647
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: You can't just kick a team out of the playoffs.

648
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 4: But there's no extra days in the playoffs to add

649
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: games onto you. They only have a limited amount of time,

650
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Speaker 4: so they're gonna have to bubble them.

651
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Speaker 2: You could announce it soon and then do bubbles. But

652
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how you plan for this though, because

653
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: you could, like do a bubble at the one seed stadium,

654
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: but then how do you plan for that without knowing?

655
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't like right, Uh, it's it's very.

656
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 5: Some cities are not conducive to that.

657
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know you're really gonna do a bubble

658
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: in Oakland where their stadiums already falling apart.

659
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: To begin with, I mean I personally, I personally say

660
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: vote yes for personal reasons. All right, let's we'll stop

661
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: bitching for a little bit and we'll get into some

662
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna go. We're gonna run quickly through each division.

663
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: Give a couple thoughts on teams, but you know who

664
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: were buying, who were selling. But before that, let's let's

665
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: have a little fun exercise here and just talk about

666
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: the way too early, but probably not too early because

667
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: it's only a sixty game season awards a quarter of

668
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: the way through, So we'll talk m VP cy Young's rookies,

669
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year's Colin. I'll start with you because

670
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: I know you're interested in this. The ALE Rookie of

671
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: the Year is going to be a fascinated I mean,

672
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: I would say Kyle Lewis is the favorite right now,

673
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: but I laugh hysterically at his numbers. I mean, this

674
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: kid is hitting three seventy three. He just can't miss.

675
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: But he's striking out thirty percent of the time. This

676
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 2: a kid has struck out forty percent at the time

677
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: last year, So he's either striking out or he's getting

678
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: a hit. His Bob Bipp Everyone's Bob Bip is down.

679
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: Kyle Lewis has not had this problem. Is Boby is

680
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: five twelve, So there. I don't know how you can

681
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: sustain this with that with a thirty to forty percent

682
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: strikeout rate, but it's a hell of a start and

683
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: one of the only positives for the Mariners besides Cocucci.

684
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking to bet his velocity's up, and he's been

685
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: a little unlucky. AL Rookie of the Year RaSE Colin,

686
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: and he thoughts, there, yeah, I.

687
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: Know that there is a very strong contingency out there

688
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: on social media that loves Luis Robert, and Luis Robert

689
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: has been okay, but his war has fallen a little

690
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: bit lower than Kyle Lewis. So now it's officially worth

691
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: having a talk. And Zarrillo, you know, sadly, was the

692
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: person that I you know, I jumped on right before

693
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: first pitch and I said, please please please run me

694
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: a Kyle Lewis fifty to one ticket. You know, al

695
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: rookie of the year. No one's talking about him. He

696
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: was on fire to in the last couple of weeks

697
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: of last season, and you know, he's playing center field,

698
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: he's batting.

699
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 6: Third and right.

700
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: His babbit is.

701
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: High for the Mariners right now. But I mean he's

702
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: been mister doing everything for them so far, and his

703
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: war is proving out to that.

704
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 6: And you know, I do expect.

705
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: Some regression to his numbers, and he's hitting in a

706
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: terrible lineup, but I mean it's not like he's taking

707
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 3: on world beaters here with sub five hundred Angels, sub

708
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: five hundred Rangers. I think the division's just going to

709
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: get worse. At what point do the Astros decide that

710
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: they don't want to play this year? I mean, they're

711
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: you know, I think the Astros, you know, I've got

712
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: some a little bit of a mental block because everybody's

713
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: just going to keep pegging them, and they don't have

714
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: any trash cans in their ears to help him swing.

715
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: But you know, I just like Kyle Lewis, and you know,

716
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: from a defensive perspective, and my problem with it is

717
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: and the whole entire having a fifty to one ticket

718
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: versus the entire social media world that loves the the

719
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: city of Chicago and loves Luis Robert, is that Kyle

720
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: loose is getting no pub whatsoever because of where he plays.

721
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: Nobody's watching Mariners baseball, Nobody's staying up that late to

722
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: watch this stuff. But his numbers are excellent right now,

723
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: and I think he deserves way more consideration than Luis

724
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: Robert Israel.

725
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: Do you want to throw any thoughts on Al or

726
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: NL Rookie of the Year.

727
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: Nate Pearson is fully living up to the hype. That

728
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: guy is a future ACE, if not a current ACE.

729
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: Makeup and stuff of Garrett call Ferlander, I mean all

730
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: the top guys. You see it right away. So I

731
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: think he's going to keep dominating the rest of the year.

732
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 4: If that guy rocks a sub three two five era

733
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: and racks up a ton of shrikeouts, he's going to

734
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: be very tough to hold off. I believe Lozardo also

735
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: has rookie status.

736
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: Is is that wrong?

737
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's started to get his first few

738
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: starts now, so he's certainly going to gain hype. There

739
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 4: is always a narrative thing with baseball awards. Trout has

740
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: obviously won the MVP in years where they only won

741
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: seventy four or eighty games, but by and large he's

742
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: awards team to go to players on good teams, So

743
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: it is gonna be tough for Lewis from that perspective,

744
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: just because he's gonna get overlooked. People are not gonna

745
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: be watching as many Mariners games, obviously, they're gonna be

746
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 4: watching much more A's games or the Blue Jays just

747
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 4: because they play on the East Coast and they're in

748
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: the Eastern time zone. So don't overlook the pitchers and

749
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: the Rookie of the Year race. But I would certainly

750
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: say that Lewis should be the front runner right now.

751
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 5: In the ALS.

752
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: Let's shift to MVPs. You have in the AL, Trout

753
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: is still the favorite, although Judge is not too far behind.

754
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: I think Trout is like plus two hundred now and

755
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: he's been absolutely on fire. Aaron Judge is next in line.

756
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: You know. An interesting name is Nelson Cruz who just

757
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: couldn't miss to start the year. Lind Or Chapman are

758
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: also up there. And then in the NL, you've had

759
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: a lot of guys up at the top of the

760
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: odds would to start the year that have faded. Yelich

761
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: has been he was benched. I think at one point

762
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: that's just missed a couple of games. Bellinger was at

763
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: a horrible streak at one point. Yeah, so bets is.

764
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 2: I think that's is still the favorite, but toptist Junior

765
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: now has made a big jump. Any thoughts on MVPs Zereel.

766
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 5: Charlie Blackman.

767
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: If he's read, he's hitting forty four through twenty five percent.

768
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: Of the season and crushing lefties.

769
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: You know, even even a sixty game season, if you

770
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: hit four hundred, I think you're pretty much a lock

771
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 4: to win MVP. Never mind the fact that they're overachieving,

772
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: you know, have a pretty good shot at making the

773
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 4: playoffs at this point. I still think they may have

774
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: some struggles that have them just because I'm not in

775
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: love with their pitching, but they're very competent and complete

776
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: defensive team if a very competent lineup, so I do

777
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: think that they can be tough. And obviously Cores is

778
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: a very unique environment to go and playing for these

779
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: road teams, especially the AL West teams that are not

780
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: accustomed to playing in there.

781
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 5: I'm still really high on SODA's chances.

782
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 4: He's hitting four forty four, I believe also continue to improve.

783
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: He has power upside. If he pulls the.

784
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: Ball more, he could be a home run leader in

785
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: the MLB eventually, but his projected war is as high

786
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: as anybody in the National League except for Bets, you know,

787
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: if he again, going back to narrative, I usually when

788
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: I'm selecting MVPs, and this has worked out in the past,

789
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: you need to find a guy who's kind of on

790
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: an island by himself on his team in terms of production.

791
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 4: And obviously Soto has Trey Turner there, but his supporting

792
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 4: cast kind of pales in comparison to the other guys

793
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 4: who are viable candidates for the award other than probably

794
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: black Men, but black Man has Aeronatto there as well.

795
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: So I think Juan Soto, especially going back to the

796
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: playoffs from last year, he's just kind of gaining this

797
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: status as rightfully a superstar in this sport. He's continuing

798
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: to improve. He'd be the youngest MVP s in Johnny bench.

799
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: But I mean, I'm still fully on board with him

800
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: winning it if the Nationals can get back.

801
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: For the playoffs. Yeah, that's missing those games though. It

802
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: is such a killer, just any games you miss in

803
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: a sixty game season. But yeah, I can't disagree with

804
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: you argument Conn. Any thoughts on MVPs.

805
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: Well, Charlie Blackman does have Trevor Story, and we put

806
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: out on Action a fifty to one ticket on Trevor

807
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Story to win the home run title. So he's only

808
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: two off the pace right now. And that I mean,

809
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: if you want to talk about players right now that

810
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: are leading in war, that are kind of on an

811
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 3: island by themselves, Kyle Lewis is fifth in the league

812
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: in war right now at one point one tatis, you

813
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: know what, it leads the leads in the league in

814
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: war right now at one point six.

815
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 6: But what about Matt Chapman.

816
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean that whole disc from Alex Rodriguez. You know,

817
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: there's Shelle comment and that everybody will about Chapman. Chapman

818
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: right now is zero point nine and war. He's seventh,

819
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: you know, ahead of Mike Trout. Mike Trout obviously should

820
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: be the leader, and he's probably gonna get more votes,

821
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: just blindly get more votes. But I mean, Matt Chapman

822
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: is excellent. You know, he's got the home run number,

823
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: he's got the RBI numbers, and he's got the defense

824
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: to back it up.

825
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 6: He's got war.

826
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: For any of those voters that'd like to look at that, so,

827
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a long shot you might want to

828
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: look at.

829
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say just blindly on Trout by the way

830
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: he's he's He's also the best player in baseball. And

831
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: if Kyle Lewis beats out Trout for MVP, I'll eat him,

832
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: all right, go ahead, bro.

833
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: If Glabor Torre has played third base, he'd be a

834
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 5: better defensive third baseman the g Orge left.

835
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: I could make a case that Gooshell is not a

836
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: top twenty defensive third baseman in baseball right now. It's

837
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: probably he's probably I don't know, between fifteen and twenty,

838
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: but I could make a case that he's twy. Not

839
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: anyone in their right mind could make a case that

840
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: he's even in the same stratosphere galaxy solar system as

841
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: Matt Chapman. Defensively, nobody is aaronato Was. He's kind of

842
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: lost a step like this clear and he's still probably

843
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: the second best. But I mean, Chapman is the he's platinum.

844
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: Chatman keeps getting compared to Matt Wallack, who had a

845
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: seven thirty six career Ops, are you fucking kidding me?

846
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 4: Wallack had two gold gloves in a seven thirty six ops,

847
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: and you're gonna keep comparing him Chapman. Chapman had seventy

848
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 4: five extra base hits this last year. He has I believe,

849
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: the eighth most barrels in baseball since the start of

850
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen season. Completely underrated hitter. I don't care

851
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: if the guy's hitting two forty six. He averages half

852
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: a base per at bat. He's a five hundred slugging percentage.

853
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: There's nothing more you could want from a major league

854
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: baseball player. He takes a little bit of time to appreciate,

855
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: but holy hell. I mean he's probably the second or

856
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: third best player in the sport and barely gets any

857
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: of the recognition for it.

858
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: There's only one player in Major League baseball right now

859
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: that has a higher defensive war than Matt Chapman, and

860
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: that's Marcus Simeon.

861
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 6: But there's a huge difference in offensive war.

862
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: You know, four point two positive four point two for

863
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: Matt Chapman, negative four point two for Marcus Siviy. So

864
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: I mean Chapman's just untouchable.

865
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: And they're also interrelated. I mean, Chapman frees up Semian

866
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: to cover so much more ground up the middle. He

867
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: has so much range into the shortstop hall Semion's able

868
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: to cover up the middle. And also, I mean the

869
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: way they shift those guys completely. They'll leave Chapman as

870
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: one infielder on the left side of the infield, stacked

871
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: the other three on the right side. Honestly, I'm hard

872
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: pressed to find a more exciting play it right now

873
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: than Matt Chapman defending a bunch by himself is the

874
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 4: only defender on the west side of the endfield. It's

875
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: like a freaking freight train coming in.

876
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: Must see TV. Yeah, I hope that we get to

877
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: watch him in October, all right, and then before we

878
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: move on to these divisions cy Young's. I mean, obviously

879
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: you have to put your household names that will be

880
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: in the conversation, you know, such as like a deGrom,

881
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: But you would be hard pressed not to look at

882
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: a lot of the Reds, I mean the Red staff

883
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: they bought in. You know that they have their new

884
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: pitching coach from last year, who I think is one

885
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: of the best in the business that came over from

886
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: the Brewers. They're big believers in all that drive line stuff.

887
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 2: All five of their starters are in the top twenty

888
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: and FIP among starters with at least ten innings, It's

889
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: like one hundred and eighty three starters or something, all

890
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: five in the top twenty. And then the Indians, although

891
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: the Indians are pitchers, are apparently leaving the bubble and

892
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: being sent home. But I mean, Bieber has been outstanding.

893
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: He's ated vel velocity to all of his great breaking

894
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: stuff and all speed stuff. Police sacks always had the

895
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: control the pinpoint accuracy. His stuff is a lot better

896
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: this year. So you know, looking at Cincinnati, I mean,

897
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: Gray's going with thirty seven straight starts and MLB record

898
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: without allowing more than six hits. Him and Lancelot they

899
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: just needed to get out of roth shot in New York.

900
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: Cy Young thought Sorillah.

901
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bieber clearly at the top of the list in

902
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: the AL. He's actually throwing two different curveballs now, which

903
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: is really cool. He's able to throw a harder and

904
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 4: a softer curveball depending on whether he's facing a right

905
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: or left. He can manipulate it in two different ways.

906
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: Cleveland's just an ace factory. Every year, one of these

907
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 4: starter or not one of these starters, All of their

908
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: starters add something for their game. Or tweak something for

909
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: their game, whether it's pitch mix or adding spin on

910
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 4: something to take them to the next level. I mean,

911
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: if Cleveland was the last future I added right before

912
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 4: the season, once I found out we were going to

913
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: a three game playoff series, and I could have the

914
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: potential of clevenger Bieber and then a combination of Carrasco

915
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: and Poleezack in game four, that's that's lights out.

916
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: You know.

917
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: They're their bullpens a little bit shaky, their offense is

918
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: struggled to score runs, but they're gonna be a very

919
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: dangerous team come playoff time.

920
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 5: And I certainly think they'll get there with it. With

921
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 5: the White Sox are playing with.

922
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: The Indians, they and Avantage, they'll have. It hasn't really

923
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: worked out so far this year, you know, and even

924
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: Savally and Pluko have looked better. Is all their switch hitters.

925
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: It's really hard, you know, to bring into specials, even

926
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: if it's just for an inning or you know, a

927
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: starter that's really good to get left us right as

928
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: they could put six or seven switch hitters to start

929
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: their lineup, which you know, that mixed that if they're

930
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: hit their batsket going with their starters that they have

931
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: in October. Definitely a team to be concerned about.

932
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: And they're also playing as good a defense as anybody

933
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: right now. Probably ranked Dodgers, Cubs, and then Cleveland in

934
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: terms of how they've performed to date this year.

935
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: So anything that yeah for me.

936
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: I'll give you two names to fade and not be

937
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: fooled by. Two of the top ex fips in the

938
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: league right now are Aaron Nola and Dylan Bundy. I mean,

939
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: Nola is leading the league in xFIP right now, but

940
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 3: he has the absolute worst bullpen, which.

941
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 6: We'll get to when we do division by division.

942
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: He is the worst bullpen behind him, and he's got

943
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: a babbut right now of two oh six, Dylan Bundy

944
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: fly ball pitcher change from the Orioles going out, play out,

945
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: you know on the West Coast, but his babbitt right

946
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: now is one eighty four. So that's due to regress.

947
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: But those are two names I wouldn't fall for and

948
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: try to take long shots on.

949
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 6: For Cy Young got to.

950
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: Comment on one guy who who I've always faded just

951
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 4: really quick. Tyler Chatwood's a different picture of this year.

952
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: His cutter is freaking nasty. I don't know what he

953
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 4: did do it. But he's throwing like ninety one mile

954
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: an hour sliders a dudes and just getting swings and

955
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 4: misses all over the place. Chatwood's the guy consistently looked

956
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: a fade in the past. He's a way different guy

957
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 4: this year. That Cubs rotation is deeper than people give

958
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 4: it credit for. I don't like that bullpen at all.

959
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: But Chatwood is going to keep performing well and I

960
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 4: would be very hesitant to fade him off of past numbers.

961
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: And he's always had the stuff. He just has to

962
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: locate it unless he's in Kansas City where he got lit.

963
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: Go ahead and the end. To add on to Chatwood, yeah,

964
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: you can tell in the numbers. I mean, he's top

965
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: ten and xFIP right now in the league. But he's

966
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: got a bab bit before seventeen, so I mean, whatever

967
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: he's pitched so far, it should only get better because

968
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: that's a ridiculous number.

969
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 6: So expect him to be hot for the rest of

970
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 6: the stretch.

971
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's move on to NL East. We'll

972
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: go through each division here quickly. Just mentioned a team

973
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: or two bit or two that you want to Marlins

974
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: and Braves. Marlins, Yes, they're in first place. The Texas

975
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: squad Marlins are two and a half games up on

976
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: the Phillies. They're three and a half up on the Nats.

977
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: There's I think that the Phillies pen is actually I mean,

978
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: the Philly starters actually looked really good. Nola like lost

979
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: it all the end of last year, but he really

980
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: impressed me against the Yankees. He struck out what twelve,

981
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: really good against the Braids. Again, those are two really

982
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: good lineups. In his last two starts, Zach Wheeler has

983
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: looked better than I thought. Ethlyn's been good. So their

984
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: starter's been better than I thought. Their offense we knew

985
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: was going to be there. Their bullpen's a disaster. You

986
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: just hope. I mean, Narris can come in with his splitter,

987
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: but I think we have a nine point eighty seven

988
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: bull penny. Alright, that's worse in baseball. So that's been

989
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: a disaster. Braves lose Soroca. They're obviously still in first place.

990
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: We can laugh at the Mets. The Nats are still hungover,

991
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: I feel like, but look, with this expanded playoff and

992
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: those that rotation again, they just got to get in

993
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: with their starters and they're gonna have a shot. They

994
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: got three potential aces that they can throw at you.

995
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: I'll start. I'll start with you as real an't least

996
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: thoughts or anything you want to add.

997
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Braves' rotation is falling apart. Obviously, Soroka

998
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: got hurt and that was unfortunate. But Fulton Avich they

999
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: cut and Nukem is just hot garbage. They have nobody

1000
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: behind Freed for a three game series that you're confident

1001
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 4: in Freezing Ace. He's really freaking good. He's continuing to

1002
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 4: get better. He looks like it. He's got the build

1003
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: for it, he's got the stuff for it, and certainly

1004
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: the metrics to back it up. But two key, two sons,

1005
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 4: you're number two starter. That guy could lose his commanded

1006
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: moments to notice Tki. I think he's underrated. But that's

1007
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: not a guy I want to throw out there in

1008
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: game two of a three game playoff series.

1009
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: My Mets are helpless, you know.

1010
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 4: Brody van Wagen has traded over thirty plus years of

1011
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 4: control time at the major league minimum salary and thirty

1012
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: plus years of control time at arbitration salary for one

1013
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars.

1014
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 5: Of contracts of bad players.

1015
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: He's about one for ten on trades, and apparently the

1016
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: news is saying that this trade deadline is going to

1017
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: define his legacy as metstro under matter. Well, fuck me,

1018
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: we barely have any top fifteen prospects left to trade.

1019
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 5: I don't know what he's gonna do.

1020
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: Like we we have Mauricio and we have him and

1021
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: who's currently on the major league roster. So I'm assuming

1022
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: both those guys are gone for mediocre major league players

1023
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: one year left on their contract. Steve Cohen is thinking

1024
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: about buying the Mets. Steve Cohen obviously on sack capitol.

1025
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 4: If he took one look at Brody's balance sheet, he

1026
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: would fire him on day one. How is a as

1027
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: a The Atlanta Braves quarter over quarter year over here

1028
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: lost sixty million dollars in revenue plus thirty nine to

1029
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: about negative thirty. These are businesses. These are not fantasy

1030
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: baseball teams. You can't go bringing in Robinson Cano, who's

1031
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 4: at best is gonna give you about sixteen million dollars

1032
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 4: of expected value on a twenty four million dollar contract,

1033
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 4: and flip a guy like Jared Kellnick, who's a top

1034
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: ten prospect with six years of control.

1035
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: Who.

1036
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: By the way, the Mets scouting department is so inep

1037
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 4: they didn't realize this guy could be up playing on

1038
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: their team this year because the Mariners are thinking about

1039
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 4: calling them up.

1040
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 5: They just don't want to waste the years of control.

1041
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 4: How is your scouting department so bad and your player

1042
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: development so bad to not scream in your face, bro

1043
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 4: you can't trade this guy.

1044
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: He is literally the future of an organization.

1045
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 4: Obviously, everybody loves to complain about prospects being held onto

1046
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: that don't work out. That's great, Colin, I'm sure you

1047
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: can tell me. If the Royals didn't make the Zach

1048
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: Grinky trade, they don't go on that World Series run.

1049
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 4: There's things that you have to do and things that

1050
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: you don't have to do. Brodyvan Wagon right now is

1051
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: acting like a general manager in the nineties while everybody

1052
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 4: else is acting like a general manager in twenty fifty.

1053
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: He's one hundred years behind in terms of his strategy,

1054
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: his team building strategy, and his asset manager and strategy.

1055
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: It's an absolute joke. It certainly leads up to the ownership,

1056
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 4: but it's no excuse and it's no reason for fans

1057
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 4: to make excuses for him. I don't care that Struman

1058
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: opted out of the season. It was a bad trade

1059
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: to begin with. You don't trade twelve years of service

1060
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 4: time of pitchers, one of whom is about to be

1061
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: in the majors, both of whom are major league minimum,

1062
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: for a year and a half of the guy when

1063
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 4: you're not guaranteed to go to the playoffs. It was

1064
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: a silly trade at the time. He continues to make

1065
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 4: bad moves, and frankly, I'm sick of it, and I'm

1066
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: sick of people defending him.

1067
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: Can't disagree with that anything you said that. I mean,

1068
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: Justin Dunn has been great this year. You've traded him

1069
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: as well for Cano and Closers still.

1070
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 4: Has six years of control left it at three years

1071
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: in major league minimum.

1072
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 5: The guy's six years six starts in.

1073
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: Right promise. No, No, I'm just saying that you have

1074
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: to don't forget about him too. I was saying he

1075
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: has been right this year, but his numbers in the past,

1076
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: high K rate, high K potential, and I like his stuff.

1077
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: Listen, Like he could have had Billy Hamilton for free

1078
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: in the offseason. He ended up just having to trade

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Speaker 4: a prospect for that same thing. With identa at your

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00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: Forrea last year, like they keep seeing guys that they

1081
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 4: could have for free, passing on them and then end

1082
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: up trading prospects for them.

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Speaker 5: That's wrong. Yeah, you don't.

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Speaker 4: You don't trade something of value for something that two

1085
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: months ago the entire league says has no value.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to the NL Central Colin. I'll get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts to start here. First. Cubs are ten and

1095
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: three with a four and a half game lead over

1096
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 2: the Brewers and Reds. They've played the Pirates, Royals, Brewers

1097
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: and Reds, though so far they have major pen problems.

1098
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: Their pen has been a disaster. Kimberl a disaster. This

1099
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: guy kick anyone out. They still them sixteen million last year.

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Speaker 2: Mills and Lester have been good, but two of the

1101
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 2: luckiest pitchers in baseball so far, if you look at

1102
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: their er compared to you know, some of the advanced

1103
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: metrics Cardinals, who knows that they're going to pay fifty

1104
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: five games in forty days. They're gonna get healthier as

1105
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: a result, but playing all those double headers can't be

1106
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Speaker 2: good for them. And then the Reds. I'm still high

1107
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: on them. I still they gonn come back and win

1108
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: this division. This staff has been incredible. We know about

1109
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: Bauer and Gray and Castillo, but even their fourth and

1110
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 2: fifth starters have been good. They're pitching staff. Their starters

1111
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 2: lead MLB with a two point eighty three x fifth.

1112
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: That's drive line, Derek Johnson, all that stuff, and then

1113
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: they just acquired talent all five starters they said before

1114
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: top twenty fifth. They've had some injuries and their offense

1115
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: hasn't really got going yet. Their penn looks disasterus. On

1116
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: the surface, seven point seven to seven era wasn't supposed

1117
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: to be a weakness, but if you look at some

1118
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: of the underlying metrics, very unlucky. You know, some of

1119
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: the underline metrics said they've been middle of the pack,

1120
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Speaker 2: so I expect some positive regression there. I'm still high

1121
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: on the on the on the Reds, I think they're

1122
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: gonna come back and win this division and for the

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Speaker 2: million times, fuck the Pirates, Colin. Any thoughts in the

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00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: NL Central.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll use some ZIPS projections here. They got

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Speaker 3: the Cubs at thirty five wins and the Bruers and

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00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: Reds at thirty wins. I'm still really high on my

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Speaker 3: Reds future. At fifty to one. They have a top

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Speaker 3: five bullpen as far as k percentage, are striking a

1130
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: lot of people out, but the bullpen that he needs

1131
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: to be watched here is definitely the Brewers are sitting

1132
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: around at about thirty seven to one to win the

1133
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: World Series right now, top five pen and x fit,

1134
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: top five pen strikeout percentage. I think bullpens are going

1135
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: to play a major factor in the leading weeks up

1136
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: to the playoffs and in the playoffs. And Brewers at

1137
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: thirty seven to one. That's a really good value on

1138
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 3: a team that is probably going to qualify for the playoffs.

1139
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 3: And I have maybe one of the top bullpens going

1140
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: into it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of agree with you, Stacky. I'm not

1142
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 4: not particularly highing this Bruwiers team. I just don't think

1143
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 4: they're being aggressive enough with how they're using hander Like

1144
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: they counsel that seems to be waiting for a lead

1145
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: and waiting for a.

1146
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 5: Lead and it never comes.

1147
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: You know, you need to find a way to manufacture

1148
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: your team to stay in a game before you actually

1149
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: lose it. So I just wish they were approaching it

1150
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 4: more aggressively like they did two years ago. They seem

1151
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 4: to have pulled back the reins on themselves a lot.

1152
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: But is it by design the right the way the

1153
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: season has been, It could be by design well at

1154
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: the time, though you.

1155
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: Do you just unleash them.

1156
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 4: At the same respect, though we are about to play

1157
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: thirty games in thirty one days, or we're already in

1158
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 4: the midst of that stretch, you do need to save

1159
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 4: bullets at some point. So if you decide to save

1160
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: them early, you know that you're in the NL Central

1161
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 4: where three teams are probably going to qualify because the

1162
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 4: bad teams in the central divisions are so.

1163
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 5: Bad, and you get those free wins.

1164
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: So there is an argument to be made like, all right,

1165
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 4: let's coast, we'll win thirty games get to the wild card.

1166
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter for seedings, so who cares what spot we

1167
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 4: get between one and eight as long as they're one.

1168
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 6: Of the eight.

1169
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: But listen, my biggest issue. I love the new extra

1170
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: ending role. My biggest issue with the new rules is

1171
00:52:59,520 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 4: the three.

1172
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Speaker 5: Bat or minimum because you.

1173
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: Look at a guy like Kimberll come into one game,

1174
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 4: and you already envision a scenario where in the ninth

1175
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: inning of a very important playoff game, somebody comes in

1176
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: with a runner already on first, and it's evident that

1177
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: they throw eight balls on the first eight pitches and

1178
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: they do not have any command at all, And as

1179
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 4: a manager, you were left helpless as your pitcher, who

1180
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: clearly has no command, walks in the game winning run

1181
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: or the go ahead run in the ninth inning because

1182
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: you're not allowed to pull him until he faces the

1183
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: third batter. There's unintended consequences that at Kirk because the

1184
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: rule changes all the time. I don't think we foresaw

1185
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 4: a suspended game where a relief pitcher has to continue

1186
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: his appearance a few days later, potentially playing into that.

1187
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: Maybe you throw a guy in the IL if you

1188
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 4: don't want him to pitch again. The Yankees did that

1189
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: very conveniently with CC Sabathia in the playoffs last year.

1190
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 4: Still want that investigated. But I still think the Reds

1191
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 4: ever running them. They're starting pitching.

1192
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: Is too strong.

1193
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 4: They only seem to score ten runs or no runs

1194
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 4: that there hasn't been much consistency there. I just think

1195
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 4: they're pitchings they're pitching too strong not to get back

1196
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: in it. But you know, in a short sample like this,

1197
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: a four game lead could be intermountable. So as long

1198
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: as the Cubs continue to just kind of play five

1199
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Speaker 4: hundred baseball the rest of the way, they might be

1200
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: tough to overcome.

1201
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Brewers was they better have Christian Yelich wake

1202
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 2: up and fast. I think he's hitting one to fifty

1203
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: on the year.

1204
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 4: I think he got hurt on a swing last year

1205
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 4: when he blew out his knee, and it just it

1206
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: looks like he's a little bit hesitant to unlock that

1207
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 4: swing entirely. He used to be one of the most

1208
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: aggressive first pitch hitters in baseball, and it's it's kind

1209
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 4: of dialing down a little bit.

1210
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 5: So I think you'll see him get his confidence back.

1211
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 4: It's like when a pitcher gets hit by a bad

1212
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 4: ball and then they seem a little hesitant, you know,

1213
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: coming back after getting shot by a batted ball to

1214
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: the head, like you'll see them round back and form yeah.

1215
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 2: Or you can just keep hitting balls near Lui himzuh

1216
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: On the NL West Rockies have a half game lead

1217
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: one of the most surprising teams in baseball so far,

1218
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: over the Dodgers, one and a half up on the Padres.

1219
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say here is the you know,

1220
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: the Rocky I don't think they could sustain this, and

1221
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: the Dodters have it starting pitching issues with injuries and

1222
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: other things. I think the Dodgers are still the fate,

1223
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: the clear favorite to win this division. The Padres are

1224
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: really intriguing team, and they had some Their pen was

1225
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: underperforming early, but I still love their pen. They can

1226
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna about to call up someone who I think

1227
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: can help their rotation as well. The Snakes have been

1228
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: very disappointed. I think their their bats have been dead.

1229
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: I think their bats. There's lineup is one of the

1230
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: best in baseball as far as depth is concerned. I

1231
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: think their lineup will be fine. Their starters not so much.

1232
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: They have a big issue with their rotation. I mean,

1233
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: Merril Kelly has been good underlying metrics say has been average.

1234
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: Gallon I love, and he's been great. I mean, he

1235
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 2: has a National League record eighteen starts, eighteen straight starts

1236
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: to start his career without allowing more than three runs.

1237
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: But Weaver has been a train wreck, mad bomb. I

1238
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with them, but he's either

1239
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 2: done or hurt. And Robbie Raighty that can't locate a pitch.

1240
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: His velocity's up, but he's walked a million guys, so

1241
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: I mean, and they don't have a great bullpen. Archie's

1242
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 2: been great as a closer since the All Star break

1243
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: last year, but I don't think that the Snakes can

1244
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: get there. And what's very intriguing Division one takeaway for user, Yeah,

1245
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: I think.

1246
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 4: How solid the Giants have been. Their bullpen's bad, but

1247
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: their offense is pretty pretty solid. Stremsky's a good hitter.

1248
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 4: Donovan saloons h I mean, top to bottom. So they're

1249
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 4: being run by Farnsahati now who used to be second

1250
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 4: in command for the Dodgers.

1251
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 5: This is his second year there.

1252
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: They're starting to uncover gems for this is what the

1253
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 4: Mets should be doing, very low cost efficiency, who are

1254
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 4: providing plus expected value, and even though the pitching isn't

1255
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: particularly great, they're finding ways to win games. So I

1256
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 4: just I think the Giants were an absolute joke last year,

1257
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 4: and we kind of thought they would be the same

1258
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 4: coming into this year. But they're a little bit more

1259
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 4: competitive than people want to give them credit for it.

1260
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 4: And I think that whole division, top to bottom, is

1261
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 4: really tough. So I think I think the two Western

1262
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 4: divisions kind of have it the toughest.

1263
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 2: In my opinion.

1264
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: I think those those are the most balanced divisions top

1265
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 4: to bottom, and I think trying to get a wildcard

1266
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: on one of those two divisions is going to be tough,

1267
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 4: just because they're really going to beat up on each

1268
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: other all year.

1269
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Ays are the benefit of being four

1270
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: and a half up on the Astros. I am worried

1271
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: about Manaia his velocity. I mean, you can't get to

1272
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: the fourth or fifth inning the Astros. Their pen is decimated.

1273
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: The Angels pitching is just a disaster. The Mariners stink,

1274
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: we know that, and the Rangers are eh.

1275
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 4: So the gap between the teams, I feel like, is

1276
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 4: smaller than it is between the teams and the other divisions.

1277
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 5: Everybody's kind of on.

1278
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: That's fair, Colin, any thoughts on the ALS r L West, Oh.

1279
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 6: The NLS.

1280
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 3: Definitely, there's one team out there right now that, as

1281
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 3: we record this is leading their division. They have the

1282
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: second highest run differential in all of Major League Baseball.

1283
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: They're currently being listened to the thirty two to one

1284
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 3: and Zips projects them to finish off with thirty three wins,

1285
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: which puts them ahead of a huge back in the

1286
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: National League, and that's the Rockies. And the Rockies have

1287
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: played more road games and they have home games. Listen,

1288
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit of you know, look through the

1289
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: first sixteen games. I don't think they're as good as

1290
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: the Dodgers. Their price at thirty two to one, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is a team that should absolutely make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the quality of the teams that they

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Speaker 3: got to play down the stretch. Their run differential is support.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've played in some Pitchers Park so far

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Speaker 3: and their run different trail is second in the league

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Speaker 3: behind the Dodgers. The Rockies number at thirty two to one,

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Speaker 3: I think they're a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: You have a Colin, you talk about bullpens, who do

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Speaker 2: you ultimately trust in their bullpen. Carlos Esty says Daniel Bard.

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Speaker 3: Let's not let's not mention the fact that Way Davis

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Speaker 3: has cost me like eight hundred and fifty fucking dollars

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Speaker 3: so far this year.

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Speaker 6: But uh, you know, we'll fix it. We got a

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Speaker 6: trade deadline coming up. We'll get it fixed.

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Speaker 2: But I like the Rockies price here. Way Davis is cooked,

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Speaker 2: by the way.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I means down about eighty six miles an hour,

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Speaker 4: and that was up from his previous time. Bumgarner is

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Speaker 4: very concerning.

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Speaker 3: Worst x FIP in starters right now. If you look

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Speaker 3: on fan grafts, Bumgardner's like six point eight.

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Speaker 2: It's bad.

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Speaker 6: It's real bad.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and eight starters have had pitched at least

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Speaker 2: ten innings this year. Three of the worst six are

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Speaker 2: on the Diamondbacks, Ray Weaver and mad bum. Uh. Let's

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Speaker 2: let's wrap it up here. A couple questions to go

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Speaker 2: through the al we love the A's insert laugh track

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Speaker 2: about the Astros, to go look at their batting averages

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Speaker 2: and their bullpen injuries. Karma is a bitch, Al east Zarillo,

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Speaker 2: I'll ask you, oh's have been surprising? Colin. I'll get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Red Sox. Pitching stinks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're all their bullpen velocities all down. They had no starters.

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Speaker 2: It's bad Rays are hanging around. Will the Yankees end

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Speaker 2: up running away and hiding and winning the division? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Or no?

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Speaker 2: Why can't stand and stay healthy? He doesn't even play

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Speaker 2: in the field. Good for me.

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty cut yeah, yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 3: pretty cut and dry. I think the you know, the

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Speaker 3: Yankee zips is projecting the Yankees they have thirty five wins,

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Speaker 3: a Razor projected to have thirty two wins. The Yankees

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Speaker 3: are top five and bullpen strikeout percentage of the Rays

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Speaker 3: are top five and bullpen x fip.

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Speaker 6: You know they're not.

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Speaker 3: Yankees are four to one. I wouldn't buy any price

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Speaker 3: on them whatsoever. They're just gonna have to be there.

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Speaker 3: Not with this playoff format. I mean, it's ridiculous to

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Speaker 3: have a four to one out there Rays fifteen to one.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty much there's no value in that either, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think they're kind of build to make

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Speaker 3: a run of the playoffs, but at fifteen to one,

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Speaker 3: I'd rather start buying series price. When we get to

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Speaker 3: the postseason rather than have something long term, long shot

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Speaker 3: like that trying to hedge.

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Speaker 6: But those are your two.

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Speaker 3: Teams, Red Sox, Blue Jays Orioles. Listen, I'd love the

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Speaker 3: Blue Jays to pick it up right now. They're negative

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Speaker 3: thirteen and run differential. That's worst definitely in the division.

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Speaker 3: That's worse out of a Central. But they can't top

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Speaker 3: the Rangers and Mariners. But the Blue Jays just starting

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Speaker 3: getting it done from a hitting perspective. But then again,

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Speaker 3: who can blame them with the uncertainty of their season.

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Speaker 3: They haven't even played at home once yet this year

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Speaker 3: and they're never going to. So you know, I think

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Speaker 3: Yankees raised Way is going to go, but they're just

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Speaker 3: not priced enough for me to buy him.

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Speaker 2: Is reel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I look at the Yankees for a three

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Speaker 4: game playoff series and I think about how i'd price

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Speaker 4: each of those games. Obviously, they're gonna be a substantial

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Speaker 4: favorite with Cole, But when you get to Tanaka and

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Speaker 4: Paxton for Game three, I mean, Packston's velocity was still down.

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Speaker 4: He started pitching with his fastball more in his last

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Speaker 4: start against the Rays and got eleven strikeouts.

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Speaker 5: I still think he's a ticking time bomb.

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Speaker 4: When his secondary stuff isn't working, you're just gonna be

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Speaker 4: able to sit on that fastball and drive it the

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Speaker 4: till he looked at his first start. He just did

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Speaker 4: more command in his last start. So there's listen. Chris

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Speaker 4: Sale had had games where he struck out fourteen last

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Speaker 4: year because the slider was unhittable. We were fading Chris

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Speaker 4: Sale constantly, and it caught up to him. I'm still

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Speaker 4: on the fade packs and train. That velocity is extremely concerning.

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Speaker 4: You don't just drop off four miles an hour from

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Speaker 4: your peak and keep going as you were. Like, he's

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Speaker 4: a guy who thrived on velocity because when he didn't

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Speaker 4: have his secondary stuff he could ge whips with it.

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Speaker 4: Not gonna get those whips anymore. He's gonna have to

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Speaker 4: be pinpoint and get call strikes. So yeah, I'd be

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Speaker 4: concerned about the Yankees in a playoff series just because

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Speaker 4: I know that games two and three are going to

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Speaker 4: be what fifty five percent favorites fifty six percent favorites

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Speaker 4: against the team. You're not going to be a substantial favorite.

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Speaker 4: But then you give me a rotation with I know

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Speaker 4: Morton's hurt right now, but Glasgow, Snell, and Morton, if

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Speaker 4: you pitted those same three starters against the same team

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Speaker 4: that the Yankees were playing, I'd argue that the Rays

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Speaker 4: are going to be a bigger favorite in Games two

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Speaker 4: and three than the Yankees would be. So come three

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Speaker 4: game playoff series, I think the Rays are much more

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Speaker 4: situated to take advantage of something like that than the

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Speaker 4: Yankees are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the and they they argue with the two best

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Speaker 2: pens in baseball. A's padres have some arguments as well,

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Speaker 2: but they're as good as it gets. Al Central Twins

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Speaker 2: are half game up on the Tigers. Yes, that's correct,

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Speaker 2: and Tigers are matching lefties so far this year. It's

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Speaker 2: obviously small sample sizes, but we're quarterway through the year.

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Speaker 2: The Tigers are half came back, Indians are one back.

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Speaker 2: We have you know about their staff. They've had a

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Speaker 2: couple starters that were sitting Clevenger and police act been

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Speaker 2: sent home because they left the bubble the white size

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Speaker 2: quick the question. I mean, the Twins have been really impressive,

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Speaker 2: and they don't have a lot of their veteran pictures

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Speaker 2: yet that they sign. Their offense is obviously just loaded,

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Speaker 2: and Dobek has been unstoppable. But the questions I want

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Speaker 2: to ask you, Colin, I want to get your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the Royals. Are you excited about the royals solar

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Speaker 2: power with Merryfield?

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Speaker 4: Are you.

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Speaker 2: Based on this start? I mean what they did against

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Speaker 2: the Twins? Do you have any helpe left? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, I love them to death and I would love

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Speaker 3: it if they won the World Series. But actually there's

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Speaker 3: a part of me that thinks I kind of want

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Speaker 3: them to stay shitty because I don't want them to

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Speaker 3: sell any good pieces off for a future run now,

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Speaker 3: something like you know Jorge Silaire, If they want to

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Speaker 3: ship him off for pieces to put in the pipeline,

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Speaker 3: that's fine with me, But I mean send at seventy ten,

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Speaker 3: you know, sweeping the Twins. I don't think they've won

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Speaker 3: a game at Kaufin and all their wins have come

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Speaker 3: away from home. But you know that Brady Singer has

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Speaker 3: been great advertise boom because I think the future is bright.

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Speaker 6: For the Royals.

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Speaker 3: We could use some more pieces in the pipeline. I

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Speaker 3: hope they give it a run here and then sell

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Speaker 3: off instead of being buyers. So you know, I would

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Speaker 3: keep betting on Brady Singer first fives, and I would

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Speaker 3: look for the Royals just in certain splits, you know,

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Speaker 3: against certain pitchers, for them to have an outburst offensively,

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Speaker 3: because they're capable of doing it. This is going to

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Speaker 3: be a tight division race. I mean, seven and ten

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Speaker 3: is where the Royals are and the Twins are at

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Speaker 3: eleven and six. I still can't believe the Tigers from

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Speaker 3: ZIPS are projected to have twenty nine wins, just five

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Speaker 3: short of the Twins, and they're two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: five to one to win the World Series. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying the Tiger's gonna win the World Series, but for

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Speaker 3: Zips to have them at twenty nine wins, that's just

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Speaker 3: that they have the White Sox at twenty nine wins.

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Speaker 3: The White Sox have a top five bullpen. As far

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Speaker 3: as xlip goes, they're twenty three to one right now.

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Speaker 3: The Indian staff is going to be really hard to

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Speaker 3: deal with in the playoffs. They're currently sitting in nineteen

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Speaker 3: to one, so that's probably some good value for that

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Speaker 3: kind of starting staff going into the playoffs. The Twins

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Speaker 3: are just comple cletely not priced correctly.

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Speaker 6: At eight to one.

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Speaker 3: You know, you gotta I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: teams to get through in this playoff structure to have

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Speaker 3: a team at eight to one, and but you know

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Speaker 3: that so far their bullpen is top five and strikeout percentage,

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Speaker 3: So you know, lots to like here from the Twins

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Speaker 3: and the White Sox and the Indians. I just cannot

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Speaker 3: believe the Tigers are right now the zips projected to

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Speaker 3: be twenty nine to thirty one.

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Speaker 6: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Best reliever in baseball so far this year, mister Gregory

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Speaker 2: Soto from the Tigers. If you haven't watched him, he's electric.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where he found this from, but he

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Speaker 2: has nine innings on the year, eleven strikeouts, no runs

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Speaker 2: given up, point two to two. Whip Bill just he'll

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Speaker 2: hit you with ninety nine and one hundred and he's

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Speaker 2: painting him. He's locating what you couldn't do before. Thro

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Speaker 2: all thoughts on final thoughts, you had to close out

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Speaker 2: al Central And are you guys, are you still optimistic

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Speaker 2: on the White Sox? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So White Socks have a bunch of injuries right now.

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Speaker 5: Bumber just got hurt. Nick Magical came up immediately got

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Speaker 5: hurt man. Bumber is a huge injury. He's the best

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Speaker 5: reliever on that team.

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Speaker 4: They just signed him to a five year deal in

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Speaker 4: the offseason too, so that was a pretty significant injury,

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Speaker 4: probably more so significant than losing Anderson or I mean,

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Speaker 4: obviously Anderson and everbody a player at an All Star.

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Speaker 4: But they'll get those guys back. They're on the mend,

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Speaker 4: hopefully by September. You know, that's that's being optimistic. I

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Speaker 4: assume you know, they're they're not done. They still have

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Speaker 4: a run of them, their their offense is pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I just not having Kopak or Rodin to fill out

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Speaker 4: the back end of that rotation. I'm way less high

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Speaker 4: on them than I was prior to the season, that's

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 2: You know, is a walking, tick ticking time bomb too.

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Speaker 4: He's absolutely yeah, yeah, outside of a bummer that you know,

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01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 4: that bullpen really doesn't have anything special. So right now

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Speaker 4: they're just kind of an average bullpen without him in there.

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Speaker 4: They're competitive, but they're nothing exceptional at this point. Once

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Speaker 4: you take out the fact that Rodin and Kopeck could

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Speaker 4: have improved and given them more high end starters. So

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Speaker 4: Cease is really going to have to make a jump.

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Speaker 4: And he's looked pretty good is his stuff is phenomenal,

1495
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: hitting ninety nine with ease. But yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 4: just not like a for imposing team that they potentially

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Speaker 4: could have been on paper had everything worked out. I

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Speaker 4: like Collins Royals. I like where they are in their rebuild.

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Speaker 4: They're ahead of the Tigers in the rebuild. Full lineup, singers,

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Speaker 4: cool Bubich has some Alex would do them. They're a

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Speaker 4: competitive team. I think they're gonna stay competitive the rest

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Speaker 4: of the way. The Tigers have major league players on

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: their roster. They signed CJ. Crawn and guys like that

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01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: this offseason, so I'm not fully surprised that they're doing

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01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 4: as well as they are, and they've clearly made improvements everywhere,

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01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 4: figured out how to optimize guys like Soda, who was

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01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 4: an automatic fade for me last year against any lineup

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01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 4: that had like decent right handed hitting. Yeah, it's it's

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01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 4: pretty clearly the Twins division. I'd be surprised if if

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Speaker 4: anybody else took them down, just because Cleveland doesn't hit

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Speaker 4: quite enough in my estimation. But I think Cleveland and

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Speaker 4: Minnesota are clearly the class compared to the rest of

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Speaker 4: these teams. And you know who will see if the

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Speaker 4: Twins just looked like they had no chance of getting

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Speaker 4: past the ages last year in the playoffs, we'll see

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Speaker 4: if things are different this time.

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Speaker 2: Well I'll leave at this. At least the White Sox

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Speaker 2: traded Tatise for James Shields. All right, everyone, thanks everyone

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Speaker 2: for listening. Thanks for joining me, Colin and Zie. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot of our anger and sadness out with

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Speaker 2: college football in limbo and at best it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a limited season. We're gonna have more baseball pod, so

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Speaker 2: we'll definitely have one before the playoffs. We probably have

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Speaker 2: another one in a couple of weeks, so I'm excited

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01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 2: to talk more baseball with these guys. So thanks again

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01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,839
Speaker 2: for listening. Remember leave five star review with an elephant

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Speaker 2: on it and we'll catch you next time. Cheers.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna robot umpires. We're finished talking.