1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: dot com, the radio, plus globilat and on your radio. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Powlett. Stocks for hire as stronger payroll growth 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: calms concerns that slowing momentum in the job market would 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: weigh on the economy. Our coverage continues here on Bloomberg Radio. 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Lots of reaction to today's report. We've got the SMP 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: up twenty nine now to twenty seven again there of 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: one point four percent down. Industrial is up two hundred 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: thirty six points, a gain of one point three percent, 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: and nastack is up seventy five points, a gain of 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: one and a half percent. The tenure up a four 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: thirty seconds, that yield one point three six percent, Gold 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: lower little change down point one percent, dropping a dollar 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: thirty benounced to thirteen sixty and crude oil up eighteen 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: cents of arral it is now at a forty five 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: thirty one for West Texas Intermediate. That's a gain of 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: four tenths of one percent. I'm Charlie Pellott, and that's 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg Business Flash. This is Taking Stock with Pim 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Fox and Kathleen Hayes on Bloomberg Radio. It's been our rollercoaster, 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: Ryan in the labor market the last couple of months. 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: At least, that's the picture we get from the Department 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: of Labor's monthly employment report. We saw in June that 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: jobs searched by two d eight seven thousand, but they 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: had risen only eleven thousand the month before. So which month, 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: which set of numbers tells the true story of where 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: the economy is and where it's heading and is it 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: really that volatile lately? We're gonna put this question out 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: of Chris lou He's Deputy's secretary at the Department of Labor. Chris, 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me. 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: So I'm sure you've gotten that that question all day long. 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Why so volatile? I mean, it's it's frequently a bit volatile, 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: but this is extreme. Well, Kathleen, Look, it's one of 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: the reasons why we don't put too much stock on 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: any one month's numbers. If you look at the three 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: month average, it's about a hundred and seven thousand jobs 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: created per per month. If you look at the year 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: as a whole, it's about a hundred seventy two. So 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I think it's best to take these numbers in the 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: aggregate and realize that with any individual month, UH, they're 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: going to be fluctuations. Now, not often as much as this, 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: but it does show the strength of the U S economy, 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: the resilience of of the U S economy, and so 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of good in these numbers. Chris Lew 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you could tell us where there's been 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: any kind of meeting or conversations that you've had in 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: terms of the strength of the US dollar and what 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: that's doing to US businesses. You're right, you know, it's 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: important to note that these numbers predated Brexit, and while 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: these are very positive numbers, it shows, um, you know, 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: it continues the longest economic recovery and history. There are 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: certainly headwinds, and one of those headwinds is the strong 53 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: US dollar, weakening global demand, and you know, the uncertainty 54 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: that Brexit creates. So we continue to watch what happens 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: not only overseas, but other headwinds here in the United States. UM, 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: but we know what we can do. We know, for instance, 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: infrastructure spending is a great way not only to create 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: good paying jobs, but also uh, to help businesses shift 59 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: their products in the most efficient manner. So there are 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: lots of things we can do. We can increase the 61 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: minimum wage, we can enact paid leaf policy. So we're 62 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: going to focus on what we can hear, always with 63 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: an eye towards um other issues, other factors. Well, you know, 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: but I PM, let's let's follow up on Pim's question 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: though on on the strong dollar, because that's certainly against 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: the pound. Uh. You know, big big move after Brexit, 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: and we know that many US manufacturers say this, this 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: hurts them. It hurts us their ability to sell their 69 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,279 Speaker 1: goods overseas. Now, Uh, there are frequently rumblings, uh, in 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: in Washington, in academia. It's not the most popular view, 71 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: but a lot of people say, you've gotta you've gotta 72 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: do something about how currency arrangements are conducted around the world. 73 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Is there ever any talk about that within the administration? Well, look, 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, if those conversations are happening, they're not happening 75 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: at the Department of Labor. We're focusing on what we 76 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: can focus on, which is to try to provide skills 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: to workers that they can take advantage of this growing economy, 78 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: and uh, the currency issues are what they are, and 79 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: as they said, there are always going to be headwinds 80 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: that we're going to face, not only overseas but here 81 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: UM and certainly the strong dollar makes it more challenging 82 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: for U S. Exporters. But when you look across the board, 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: not only today's numbers, that a lot of the other 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: important indicators, whether it's consumer spending, whether it's auto sales, 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: whether it's on initial unemployment claims UM. It shows the 86 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: continued resilience of this economy. But they're always headwinds. Chris Luke, 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: could you speak to the issue of the Federal reserves 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: debate over whether to raise interest rates if the economy 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: is as well, not robust, but as healthy as it 90 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: is made out to be, at least by this Job's 91 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: report with twenty five basis points of an increase really 92 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: damage the U S economy. You know, we we we 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: make it a practice not to opine on what the 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve should should not do. That's really in their prerogative. 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: What I can tell you is this, just as good 96 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: as these numbers are, there is more work to be done. 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: As we say, all the time. Um, the wages are 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: the unfinished business of this recovery. For on an annualized basis, 99 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: wages have grown two point six percent, and that's one 100 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: of the highest that's been in a long time. But 101 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: that really doesn't make up for the wage tagnation that 102 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: most workers have faced over the last couple of decades. 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: So we know we need to do more on that. 104 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to say that we are at full 105 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: employment and I'll leave that to others, but We're going 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: to continue focusing on providing skills to workers so that 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: they can compete for the job on century you know it, 108 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: We're all for that. I think in this country, let's 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: provide the skills, you know, let's boost community colleges for example. 110 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: There that's been going on for a while now, but 111 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: we still see a big gap. We still see, for 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: example that Java's claims, you know, our way down, but 113 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of jobs that aren't getting filled. Is 114 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: there something lacking? This has been talked about and steps 115 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: are taken, but we still have a big skills gap. 116 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: Does it have to start in in junior high two? 117 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: People in need to get educated better? What needs to 118 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: be done Chris, You're right. This is not something that 119 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: we can do after somebody has finished high school, finished 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: community collegees. This needs to be a whole of government 121 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: approach that really starts all the way from pre K 122 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: up through high school, through community colleges, through colleges, through 123 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: the workforce system. Last months, there were five point eight 124 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: million open jobs in this country. About ten percent of 125 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: them are in the I T sector. Those are great 126 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: paying jobs and when Secretary President I travel around the country, 127 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: we meet with companies all the time that are ready 128 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: to hire, but they can't find the skilled workers they need. Likewise, 129 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: we talk to job seekers who want to to get 130 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: these jobs but lack the skills. And so what we've 131 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: been focusing on is how do we retool the workforce 132 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: system in this country to be more responsive to the 133 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: needs of industry and not only train people for the 134 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: jobs of today, but the jobs of tomorrow. So that 135 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: it requires working with our partners in the federal government 136 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: on how you improve our education system, how we make 137 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: greater use of community colleges, how we ensure um greater 138 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: use of technology like online training bootcamps, coding bootcamps to 139 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: help people get the skills they need you know. I 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: think one of the other big challenges we have in 141 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: this country is that there used to be a time 142 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: when you could train for a job once and then 143 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: you never needed any more training. That's not the economy 144 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: we live in right now. So we need to create 145 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: a culture in which people are willing to get trained 146 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: throughout their entire life. Thank you for spending time with 147 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: us and sharing your views. Chris leu is, Deputy Secretary 148 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: of the U. S Department of Labor. Joining us from Washington, 149 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: d C. Home the Bloomberg and one oh five point 150 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: seven h D two. You're listening to taking Stock. I'm 151 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: pim Fox, my co host Kathleen Hayes, and this is Bloomberg. 152 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Good jobs growth in June after pretty dismal jobs growth 153 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: in May. What's going to happen for the rest of 154 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: the year. What does it mean for FED policy makers? 155 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: What does it mean for the markets? That's coming up 156 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: on taking Stock