WEBVTT - Pats from the Past, Episode 48: Corey Dillon

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<v Speaker 1>It's type for another episode of Patch from the Past podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Smith, along with Paul Barlow please to be joined

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<v Speaker 1>by number twenty eight. Can you believe that number twenty eight?

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<v Speaker 1>It is great to see Corey Dylon here. Corey, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us, man, thanks for having me. Really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to see you. It's been a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you came back in December. I think last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You're here today, you're going into the Bengals Ring of

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<v Speaker 1>Honor or Hall of Fame. It seems like you're reconnecting

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<v Speaker 1>with the franchises that you played with, and that's got

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<v Speaker 1>to make you feel great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been a long time coming. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>went off the reservation, so to say, for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>So just getting back and coming back around organizations, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>So full disclosure, we did try to get you in

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<v Speaker 3>December too. That's one of our one of our few failures. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>see right, Paul, we didn't get them the first time around.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is great.

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<v Speaker 3>I would echo what Matt said. You know, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get into the two thousand and four season, but

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<v Speaker 3>that is a that is one that I think has

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<v Speaker 3>a special place in the heart of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people in this area that that twenty four team was

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<v Speaker 3>a special team and you know, I'm really looking forward

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<v Speaker 3>to getting some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of your man. It was it was great to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of that team. Man, there's so many Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame caliber players on that team. It's it's it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's one of the favorite teams out of my

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<v Speaker 2>whole career I played for. And dude, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>great time. That was. That was one hell of a run.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get to it. You're at April, it's before

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, right. Were there conversations going on. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>think that that was a possibility or did it catch

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<v Speaker 1>you off guard?

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<v Speaker 2>Courty? No, Man, to be honest, I'm at home. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like worst case scenario type things. So I'm thinking, like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I may have to sit out a year or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I think the Raiders was real serious about

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<v Speaker 2>bringing me in, and and that was that was my

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<v Speaker 2>first first option, and that's what I was thinking, like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I might be going to Oakland. So to actually get

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<v Speaker 2>the call from my agent was like and he told

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<v Speaker 2>me like this. He was just like, pack a back,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to Boston. And and and I said for what,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm like, for what we were going to

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<v Speaker 2>bost for. And he just told me, man, shut up,

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<v Speaker 2>just pack a back and meet me at the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>So actually coming down here and and meeting with Bill

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<v Speaker 2>and Scott Pioli, Man, we had a great conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>it was simple, man, It didn't take that long. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, hey, you know, what, do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you could play for us? I said absolutely. We shook

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<v Speaker 2>hands and that was that was it, and the rest

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<v Speaker 2>is history.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the end in Cincinnati, you know, we we

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're only watching from afar, you know, so

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing the highlights where you know, we're hearing the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the chatter, and we were like, well, does

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<v Speaker 3>this guy really want to play? But it got to

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<v Speaker 3>the point where it was so bad for you with

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<v Speaker 3>that organization that you you felt strongly enough as you

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<v Speaker 3>just said that you you thought you might just sit

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<v Speaker 3>out rather than play for them again. It must have

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<v Speaker 3>been it must have felt like a rebirth to come

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<v Speaker 3>here and play for play for the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. It was so refreshing, you know, just coming from

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<v Speaker 2>the situation I came in. We were at ends odds

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<v Speaker 2>ends about just what transpired that whole year. So, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm coming off an injury and and just

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<v Speaker 2>some of the stuff that was going on during that year,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just compounded the situation. So actually to get

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<v Speaker 2>a fresh new start and actually come to an organization

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<v Speaker 2>that winning is everything, I embraced that. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have any preconceived notions? I mean, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's almost like a get out of jail free

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<v Speaker 1>card for you. Maybe you'd have accepted to go anyplace

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<v Speaker 1>hosted Bill, Yeah, but here you're coming to the defending

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl champions. You don't know anything about the organization

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<v Speaker 1>other than they're the defending champs. What was your feeling

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<v Speaker 1>coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, Man, that was a lot of anxiety, to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, because you don't know what to expect.

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<v Speaker 2>They already got something in place and they're rolling. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you got this, You got this notion of like

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<v Speaker 2>what they really need me for? They just want the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl, you know what I mean. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think some people think it's easy to be traded

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<v Speaker 2>to a super Bowl champion. Man, there's more pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>you to make your mark and to contribute to that,

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<v Speaker 2>to that team. So I mean I embraced that situation

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I just wanted to come in and, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, do my part. And for the most part, man,

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<v Speaker 2>my teammates were great. They accepted me, the organization accepted me.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill let me do my theme, man, So it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of worked out.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's interesting that you had something anxiety coming in. Interesting, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So what was you know, what you said that they

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<v Speaker 3>really accepted you. What was the moment that you sort

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<v Speaker 3>of felt accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, some of these players already knew, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>that that kind of that kind of bridged the gap

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<v Speaker 2>of getting comfortable, meaning that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could play like in two thousand and one, they had

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<v Speaker 1>to face him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah. So I mean just breaking the eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and getting to know these guys, and I mean just

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<v Speaker 2>coming here doing training camp and us joking around and

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<v Speaker 2>getting familiar with each other, we kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was just like, oh okay, so some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I hear ain't what they are, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? So yeah, i mean I'm pretty sure coming

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<v Speaker 2>in due to the fact that less Cincinnati, they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>can we trust him? Can is he gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to fit any with us, can he does? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Just things like that of that nature and just coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and they seeing my personality like I'm just like them,

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<v Speaker 2>I think kind of broke the eyes and we started

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<v Speaker 2>we started yelling and they let me do my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was an acclamation period definitely training camp, preseason maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, definitely, I mean, and then on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure people was still thinking wondering if I

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<v Speaker 2>could play as well. So yeah, so it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of things going on, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things that have anxiety about, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>but just being me and my personality, nothing I couldn't handle.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I came in and fit in with

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<v Speaker 2>the guys good.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it really quick in training camp?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously they were a good team, right, But

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<v Speaker 3>I always felt that that old four team was the

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<v Speaker 3>first one that was sort of there was There was

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<v Speaker 3>no asterisks, there was no yeah butts.

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<v Speaker 4>They were just dominant.

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<v Speaker 3>And was there a moment where you just sort of

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<v Speaker 3>felt like, Wow, this team can really be special.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think when we went off to that

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<v Speaker 2>five oh start, man, I was just like, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty damn good. You know what I mean, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Only only the way we lose is if we beat

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves type thing. And I kind of felt that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're dominant on defense and we got great players

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<v Speaker 2>on offense. So I really felt overall, only way we

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<v Speaker 2>losing if we beat our stuff and make mistakes. So

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<v Speaker 2>it during that whole season, I mean, everybody I like,

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<v Speaker 2>I like players holding players accountable offense and defense. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we did all year man, so it it it

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<v Speaker 2>panned out and it kept us focus as just coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and you know the you know the famous quote,

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<v Speaker 2>just do your job, you know, and that's what we

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<v Speaker 2>did and and players held everybody accountable for just doing

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<v Speaker 2>your job. So and if you're off, you're not. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>other players consense that, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the confidence another player will give you when

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<v Speaker 2>you may be struggling a little bit to go out

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<v Speaker 2>there and perform, man means everything that signs up a

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<v Speaker 2>good team.

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<v Speaker 1>You come to New England at an interesting point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody today knows how great Tom Brady was right in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four, and I'm not taking anything away

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<v Speaker 1>from him. He was a two time Super Bowl winning

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback at the time, but he wasn't Tom Brady. What

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<v Speaker 1>did you see out of him, Corey at that point

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<v Speaker 1>in time as a player, you knew he was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good quarterback, but nobody in there wild the dreams

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<v Speaker 1>was ever going to think that what happened happened. What

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<v Speaker 1>did you see that you thought made him great?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Just just being that ultimate competitor, and you could

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<v Speaker 2>see that. I can see that right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see that. I knew it. Just how he prepares,

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<v Speaker 2>he was always first, then laughed out and the way

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<v Speaker 2>he gathered all of us. There's not one player in

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<v Speaker 2>that locker room that wouldn't run through a brick wall

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<v Speaker 2>for Tom Brady. And that's what it's about. He controlled,

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<v Speaker 2>he had that, he had that control over the team,

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<v Speaker 2>where hey, man, let's when he gets going with head

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<v Speaker 2>button people and screaming, let's go man, It's it's exciting

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<v Speaker 2>for your quarterback to see your quarterback to express those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of emotions and energy. Man, it fires everybody up.

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<v Speaker 2>So ultimate leader, ultimate competitor. And I seen it. I

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<v Speaker 2>seen it then. I knew he was gonna be great

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<v Speaker 2>so and he proved it so easily. He proved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know it sounds a little funny because they

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<v Speaker 3>went fourteen and two and three en route to the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl, so it's not like, yes, they locked into it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it kind of got a lot of breaks in

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<v Speaker 3>O three and O four. I kind of looked at

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<v Speaker 3>it as you were the missing piece, like you were

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<v Speaker 3>that one ingredient that made them completely, as you said,

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<v Speaker 3>unbeatable unless you beat yourselves. Can you just remember that

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<v Speaker 3>year just being that league guy franchise record for rushing

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<v Speaker 3>yards I think over sixteen hundred rushing yards in four

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<v Speaker 3>just the dominant way that you guys went about it.

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<v Speaker 3>You could beat teams offensively, defensively, special teams. I used

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<v Speaker 3>to have a joke in the press box. I would decide,

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<v Speaker 3>like first drive of the game, whether or not you

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<v Speaker 3>guys showed up that day, and if the game was over,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a game in Cleveland, I think Bethel

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson returned the opening.

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<v Speaker 4>I looked at my boss and I said, that's game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, that that was the thing. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We can win in so many ways. There's been times

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<v Speaker 2>like during that all four season where we start off

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<v Speaker 2>in five wides. We're not even running the ball, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>go a whole two series. We don't even run the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think that was the scheming of Charlie Wise.

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<v Speaker 2>He he was a genius in running that running that offense, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and dude, it was I felt like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a closer, you know, and so in so

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<v Speaker 2>many ways, like in those grimy games, like you need

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<v Speaker 2>those tough yards, that's where I showed up and showed

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<v Speaker 2>up big. So yeah, we had a we had a

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<v Speaker 2>variety of ways of winning football games and just just

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<v Speaker 2>just knowing that, you know what, at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>these games like that late third quarters, in the fourth quarters,

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<v Speaker 2>I show up big and they gave me the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>they let they let me go and I and I

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<v Speaker 2>ran with it.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the nickname that Puski? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Bruski's the author of the nickname. What's the nickname?

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<v Speaker 2>Clock killing? Yeah, yeah, so it's it's true. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to run a control, controlling on the ground, run out

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<v Speaker 2>that clock and there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was really what a way to play football too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was get a lead, you know, and then just

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<v Speaker 1>hammered home. Trust your defense. That's a pretty decent recipe

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<v Speaker 1>for success.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it. Yeah? It worked it though, for it worked

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<v Speaker 2>all the way to Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Like honestly, for you did feel like a rebirth

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<v Speaker 3>of sorts, you know, to to just come and have

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<v Speaker 3>that much success, both individually and as a team.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe reaffirmed Corey what you were thinking when you

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<v Speaker 1>were in a different space, you know, with Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 1>everything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't suss a record for individual you know, single

0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.000
<v Speaker 3>game rushing, like you had a lot of individual accolades,

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<v Speaker 3>but this, the team success came with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what what dawned on me? I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't understand like like being at an other organization, you

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<v Speaker 2>would hear, you would hear like what other organizations do.

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<v Speaker 2>So I never I never knew what the Patriot Way was.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't. I didn't get that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is you know what I mean like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>is that a code? What's going on? Like? And you

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<v Speaker 2>would hear that from from other places, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up. I'm from Seattle, I know Lawyer mylloy

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been to Willie McGinnis and all these guys

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<v Speaker 2>before I got here. So me actually coming over and

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<v Speaker 2>like in the narrative out there before I even got here, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd never fit in. It's the patriotet. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what the hell that is, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, But getting over here and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>it firsthand and figuring out what it is. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a guy doing his job, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>going out there playing the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Paul certainly in that era right around there,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill had a tremendous amount of success with picking the

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<v Speaker 1>right like not listening to the narrative, Oh, Corey Dillon's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kill your team. You don't want to bring him

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a bad apple. You know that's gonna He's

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<v Speaker 1>a killer for your You know what, let me see

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<v Speaker 1>what I can do with Corey Dillon. Have a talk

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<v Speaker 1>with you, man to man, and as you said, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just do my job.

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it when you look back at that, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's part of Bill's genius?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? I think? Treating a player like a

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<v Speaker 2>player exactly exactly. Listen. One thing about Bill is, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're out there, you're doing your job. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna really, he ain't gonna mess with you. Only time

0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.280
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna deal with you is if you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing. You know what I mean. And for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, he let me come here and grow.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't. Me and Bill had great conversations. You know,

0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I knew what I was doing. I knew my assignment,

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<v Speaker 2>and I prided myself on going out there and executing

0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.400
<v Speaker 2>that part of it. So it wasn't really nothing else

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<v Speaker 2>really to talk about other than xens and o's and

0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.600
<v Speaker 2>preparing me for the next situation. It was never no

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<v Speaker 2>negativity whatsoever. So and he's like that with every player.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as you're doing your job, he's not really good.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to be said.

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<v Speaker 3>So earlier you said something about that team being so

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<v Speaker 3>so talented. You realize the only way we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>screw this up is if we beat ourselves, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that late season game in Miami, oh wow, the Monday night, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys basically did exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I see, I see, I see my image

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<v Speaker 2>going on that trailer. Man, it is way quick. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that game, and and and and since our retirement,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always something with New England in Miami that goes wrong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>weird games, weird games. Yeah, we're we're down there. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what what was we We were fourteen and.

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<v Speaker 3>One, yeah, yep, thirteen and one. Yeah, we have one loss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, we were one loss, twelve thirteen whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And Monday night, Monday night, we're controlling the game. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>is going good. Man, it just weird stuff started happening. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It just interception here, fumble here, and I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 2>like wow. But I tell you what, I tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what I think. Honestly, I don't like losing. I hate losing,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think we needed to lose that game to

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<v Speaker 2>reset and get back focused, because I mean, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>running through the season and you're thirteen and one or whatever,

0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.760
<v Speaker 2>you can get a little complacent, you know what I mean.

0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:26.320
<v Speaker 2>And I think Bill used that game, prime example, to

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<v Speaker 2>reset us, get us back where we need to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That following week of practice was I can only imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, I don't want to lose again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that part of itself us. It got us

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<v Speaker 2>set up for the playoff run.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Paul a lot of fans will look back

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how much argument there is as

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<v Speaker 1>to what the best Patriots team of all time is

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly like what would be the ill fortune?

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<v Speaker 4>That's my vote, right, But if you think.

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<v Speaker 1>About that in the year and Corey, what did this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>On the other side of the ball, Law goes down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Asante goes down, Troy Brown is playing defensive

0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.560
<v Speaker 1>back earth when Moreland. You know, guys are just coming

0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.080
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, but they're making plays and they're being

0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.000
<v Speaker 1>put in a position where maybe they're not getting exposed

0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.840
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that, and the team is coming around

0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you to try to cover up some of those places.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a pretty remarkable part of that team with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the difficulties that.

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<v Speaker 2>You had from a personnel standpoint, I mean, and that's

0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.960
<v Speaker 2>that's just the brilliance of the players we had. We're

0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, could switch. Who Who would ever thought Troy

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<v Speaker 2>Brown can get over there and play corner, right, you

0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.159
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Who would think of that? What

0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.040
<v Speaker 2>coach would think of you know what, Troy, we need

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<v Speaker 2>you at corner this week, and had a confidence of

0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:51.840
<v Speaker 2>putting them in there and letting him play corner. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think overall what was real underrated is we

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of good players. Verse of tile players.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what Bill likes. Players that are versatile

0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and can do many things. And it's that's kind of

0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.920
<v Speaker 2>a genius move. We're gonna just take Troy Bown and

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<v Speaker 2>make him play corner and then for the most part,

0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Troy went out there and held his own so and

0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.600
<v Speaker 2>that shows what kind of player he is, you know

0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.760
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So, And but I think I think

0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.399
<v Speaker 2>that team and like, if you start going through this,

0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:35.040
<v Speaker 2>this whole walk of dynasty, I think some of those players.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that All four team is underrated because

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<v Speaker 2>people didn't know the caliber of players we had. I did.

0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I knew. I worked with him every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So Corey Dillon's in All Pro. Okay, and you

0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.800
<v Speaker 1>were in the Pro Bowl that year and All Pro.

0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows who Corey Dillon is. Here's a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>I think grows under the radar for a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>really emerge that year, and that's David Gibbons. Like who's

0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.160
<v Speaker 1>David give you know, right, and who's David Givens. David

0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Gibbons was a hell of a player in that system,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't he Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I Mean he stepped up big when when Branch

0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 2>went down so and and that's what I'm saying there

0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:18.320
<v Speaker 2>was we had so many talented players on that squad,

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<v Speaker 2>Like when somebody get hurt, somebody'll step back up and

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<v Speaker 2>and and and feel that voided till they get back.

0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I think I think that's that's how we survived, and

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.800
<v Speaker 2>that's where our confidence grew as a team that no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what happens, we're gonna have. The next guy's gonna

0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:40.920
<v Speaker 2>step up and we're gonna keep rolling.

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<v Speaker 3>You get you getting into the playoffs that year first

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<v Speaker 3>game is what I think is probably one of your highlights.

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, the game against the Colts here and the

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.920
<v Speaker 3>terrible weather. You get the great images of you with

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<v Speaker 3>all the mud and stuff all, you know, before we

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 3>had the you know, the field turf put in or

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<v Speaker 3>still natural grass.

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<v Speaker 4>Then was that your first ever playoff game? Did you

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:05.439
<v Speaker 4>have a playoff apparent?

0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 2>First ever playoff game?

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, I think the Colts are still

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.359
<v Speaker 3>chasing you. It had to be really satisfying.

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, yeah it was, man, it was. It was

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.120
<v Speaker 2>a cold one. I think it was some snow flurries here.

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Right at the beginning, just to get Manning off his game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just look and you know what I'm from. I'm

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.800
<v Speaker 2>from Seattle, Man, I'm used to those snowy, cold, muddy games.

0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.720
<v Speaker 2>So I knew it was I knew it was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've gotta do some running. We're gonna be

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.000
<v Speaker 2>on the ground this game. We're gonna do a lot

0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:44.400
<v Speaker 2>of running. So dude, it was after the first initial hit, man,

0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I just settled in and started doing my job. Man,

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.440
<v Speaker 2>And it turned out. I don't know if it's like

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.280
<v Speaker 2>what forty four ground something like that should have had.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, were that I mean, were you on the

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<v Speaker 1>dives of the pilot.

0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:00.360
<v Speaker 2>You know what? Officials came back the following year, I said,

0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:04.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what, this was actually a touchdown. Yeah, so

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I I wish I wish they would have called it,

0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 2>called it right the first time. But you know what,

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.200
<v Speaker 2>we end up winning the game, So that's all that matters.

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:14.960
<v Speaker 1>That image of you diving for the pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>You have kids, Yeah, they see you see that one.

0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Look at d Yeah. My daughter is always like, Dad,

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.680
<v Speaker 2>you didn't play. You weren't good. I'm like, you better

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 2>check this out, come back and watch some film.

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<v Speaker 4>Divisional round.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next game, Corey, you know that was

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that that Indie game is hard fought. The defense really

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.119
<v Speaker 1>shut Manny down. You're going into Pittsburgh where you got

0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 1>thumped in the regular season, you know, and what was

0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:46.639
<v Speaker 1>the confidence level of going back in there and say,

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what did go down in the Pittsburgh game.

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I went down in the first so that was a

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a what was your confidence level like

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:54.440
<v Speaker 1>going into Pittsburgh.

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I missed that Pittsburgh game too, with a

0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:00.240
<v Speaker 2>ham Street in the regular season, so I didn't play

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:04.680
<v Speaker 2>that game as well. And they rumped us pretty good

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 2>up there, and I know, I got some friends up there,

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:11.879
<v Speaker 2>Joey Porter and all that, and they was talking cash,

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what, they were talking cash, And you know

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 2>what our attitude was like, Man, let's let's beat them down.

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Let's beat them down. Let's go out there and jump

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 2>on them early and let them know we're back. We're

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:34.360
<v Speaker 2>we fully loaded, everybody everybody's up, We're not at a disadvantage,

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 2>and let's go show them what we got. And we

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:40.560
<v Speaker 2>jumped out on them quick and they couldn't recover.

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Was that the mindset going in, like you knew that

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 3>you were missing some pieces the first time around, and

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 3>you were fully confiden because they were fifteen and one.

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Listen, Petersburg was pretty good too.

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Right, pretty now.

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Willie used to tell everybody that no one thought you

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.920
<v Speaker 3>guys could win, even though you were favored on the road. Again,

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 3>the fifteen to one team, which told everybody just how

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 3>good people thought that two thousand and four pages.

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I think that I think people recognized

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 2>from the regular season we have people missing and and

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.680
<v Speaker 2>us fully loaded. We match up very well with them,

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 2>and it was just a it was just a war

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>of will at that point. Don't get me wrong. Pitchburgh

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 2>had a stack one hell of a football team, you know,

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 2>but we had players too, so and that was and

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 2>that was the thing. Man, oh man, Let's see let's

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:39.160
<v Speaker 2>see who who who? Who weakends first? And I think

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 2>we jumped out them real good. And by the by

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 2>the third quarterman, that game was, that game was out

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 2>of control. It was it was pretty much in the bag.

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And what was going through your mind then, like, there

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>can't be many better feelings in watching a place empty out.

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>You're beating them really good, as you said, right, and

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you're going to.

0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 2>The Super Bowl. My first initial feeling is they used

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>to they used to kick my butt when I played

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 2>for Cincinnati, so now hey payback. I got you. I

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.640
<v Speaker 2>got you. So that was my that was my first thought.

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Second thought is, man, we just whipped you on the

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 2>biggest stage in the AFC Championship game. After all that

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 2>was said, all that was done in the regular season,

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.719
<v Speaker 2>all the talking. We kind of killed that noise too,

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and then we're off to the super Bowl. It gets

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:36.640
<v Speaker 2>no better than that. It gets no better than going

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 2>up to Hinesfield, beating them on their own turn and

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.120
<v Speaker 2>earning the birth at birth to the super Bowl, super

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Bowl thirty nine.

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 3>And what do you remember about you know that that period,

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 3>heading into Jacksonville and getting ready to take on the Eagles.

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't believe I'm there, you know what I mean,

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 2>a glans It back on where I was last year

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>at that time to where I was then, unbelievable, unbelievable.

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I mean I put into work, I

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 2>put in the work. But even though when you do

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 2>put into work, some people still don't don't get to

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>experience what I was experienced at that moment. So it

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 2>was a blessing, man, It was a blessing, and it

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 2>just reversed back to that handshake between Bill and me

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and Scott Pioli, Like that's the only That's what it

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 2>goes back to. You think you could play for us? Yes?

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, sort of comfortable circle in that quarry, you know. Yeah,

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>there's people doubt their doubters, right, people questioning you could

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it happen? Not only did it happen, but you end

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 1>the year with Lombardi Trophy in your hand. That's got

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>to be pretty satisfying.

0:25:55.160 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, what a feeling? What what a feeling? I

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 2>mean if you it's just coming back full circle like

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 2>from the year before to the end. And believe me,

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>there's there's a there's gonna be a lot of nace

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 2>hears for the rest of your life, you know what

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's just natural. But to but to

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 2>go through what I went through and then the very

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 2>next year be holding up the trophy says says it all.

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that kind of killed a lot

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>of misconception out there about who I am and what

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I can do.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 3>So now moving forward, you you know, you start the

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 3>old five season looking, you know, to win three in

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 3>a row for a three peat. Obviously hasn't been done. Yeah,

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City is going to try to do it this year.

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.719
<v Speaker 2>It ain't gonna happen. Why Why Because it's never happened.

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 2>It's never happened. I don't everybody's shooting for you.

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Did you sense did you get that? Did you get

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a sense that you're getting everybody's best shot?

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 2>In absolutely? Absolutely? I think the four we were getting

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>everybody's best shot. Honestly, everybody's best shot. And I think

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I think the consensus around the the league and to

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 2>most like you know what, we're tired of seeing them

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>win anyway. So I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure teams

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.199
<v Speaker 2>are are gearing up. They're gonna give Kansas City all

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 2>they can handle. I don't, I don't seem I don't

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>see them three p at all.

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Where did you see the pressures? Besides getting everybody's best

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 1>shot to four was magical. Nothing went wrong that year,

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and so you can't just roll the balls back out

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>again in five. You got to, like Bill used to say,

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 1>it's a new year, you gotta put in the work

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and everything like that. Where did you see that thing

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>went wrong?

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Five? I mean there was a lot of injuries. I

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>mean I missed games that that that that year. So yeah,

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean you gotta have you gotta have some luck

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 2>to to complete the mission of winning a Super Bowl

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 2>man and that and and number one, staying healthy is

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 2>is key. Uh, I don't I wasn't healthy. A lot

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>of other players that were down. So we kind of

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 2>we kind of struggled that year. We we still we

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>still made it to the playoffs. I think we went

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>up to Denver. We lost to Denver, which I thought

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>we had that we we would have seen Pittsburgh again,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and oh what a feeling that would have been. That

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>would have been another good one. And I think I

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I think Pittsburgh did they win it that year? Yes, yea. Honestly,

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here, I'm thinking, damn, I could be have

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 2>to have to stoo rings man to be honest with you.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know, just from Afar, I would say,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>you guys look like you're a little lot of gas.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>That too.

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 4>In Denver, you know, a tough place to play, no

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 4>mile high.

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 3>And I think all the sort of attrition of the

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 3>long playoff runs, Yeah, I think caught up to you.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 3>But you want to say you could have had two

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Let's fast forward to six and you got a twenty

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 3>one to three lead late in the second quarter of

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 3>the AFC Championship game.

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, could it?

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 4>I think we might have ruined it for him.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a different year though. Core They drafted

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>back in the first round. Yeah, what you're thinking when

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you saw that happen?

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Nothing like? Okay? I mean, you still got to come

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in here and play, like you know what I mean, Like,

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>just because you were drafted doesn't mean it doesn't mean anything.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>A great player told me this. It doesn't matter what

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>round you're drafted. It matters what you do when you

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>get there. That's a great boomer of sciencen. So you

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 2>gotta still come in here and play. And then at

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>the at the end of the day, what's the worst

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>thing going to happen? Somebody get cut? I mean, I'm

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>not getting cut, So I'm not worried about that aspect

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>of it. So what it boiled down too was and

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what, Hey, we're gonna mix it up. Hey

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>we split carries, and that's fine with me. I never

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>griped about that whatsoever. I kind of thought of it

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 2>as hell, I need a break too sometimes that part

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 2>as well, that part as well, I never took it

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 2>as a as a negative so and then on top

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>of that, man, we embrace guys that's coming in here

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 2>that can help you win. Who doesn't want that. So

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 2>I never looked at it in a negative light. I

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>looked at it as a another teammate here to help

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>us win. And like you said, man, we get up there,

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>we get up there to Andy Man and and I'm thinking,

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 2>then we're going back. And then I don't know what happened, man,

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>That big head Fela with the word and pulled a

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 2>number on us.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Man, And that didn't mean to gloss over one of

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 3>the more underrated playoff victories of the dynasty.

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 4>And that's the week before in San Diego.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh Man, I think I think Ladani is still mad

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>about that. When you're question, we weren't supposed to win

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that game at all, and I think they were the

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>favorites to win it all.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>They were fortune too.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. So and actually going up to San Diego

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and playing one hell of a team, man, that team

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>was good on defense, good on offense, and we were

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 2>we were in a slug fest all four quarters. And

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the actually go up there and come out with the

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>win was was special that was. That was a good

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>win for us. Uh.

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to trivialize it because I think, uh,

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>when you say that you're a part of a trivia question,

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>it trivializes the accomplishment. But I do Paul had mentioned

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>this earlier. I don't know how many Patriots fans right

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>off the top of the head go, oh, single season

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>record rushing record, Corey Dillon sixteen hundred yards. That's a

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>hell of an accomplishment and one you must be very

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>proud of to see that record still stands today.

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm proud, man, I'm just I'm just proud to be

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>a part of the history here. Man, That's what I'm

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 2>proud of. Yeah. I always got the attitude of records

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>are meant to be broken, which they they are. Some

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>young step will come along in here and it clips that.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, I'm an chaerish it since I

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.719
<v Speaker 2>got it now, you know. So it was great, man.

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a reflection on that year, who I played with,

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the people who was around the organization, and to cap

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 2>that that great season of rushing off with a super Bowl. Man,

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>that's that's everything. That's something I never forget, never forget.

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as those six you know, obviously a very disappointing.

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 3>We just talked about it, very disappointing, and you sort

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 3>of have an idea in your mind of what the

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 3>future was going to hold for you.

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I I just had enough, I

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>think at that point, you know, like, yeah, I'm getting older.

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like thirty two, man, I was, I was.

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I was in my late early thirties. I mean, and

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, man, I already gave you so much to

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>this game. I mean, and in my mind, what more

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 2>can I do or what more do I want to do?

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>You know? And at that time, some of the older

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>guys that hang around, you know, catch bad, bad injuries,

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, so and the style of football I like

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to play, Yeah, that was coming. That was coming. So

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I just thought to myself, like, man, this might be

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the best time to shut it down and go figure

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 2>out something else to do with your life.

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Which is what what are you work to these days?

0:33:59.680 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I think?

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>ANSWERED want to know.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm trying to fix this hook I got in

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>golf with the driver. Hey, I get a hold of it.

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, for the most part, I'm putting it out

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>there three hundred plus, but sometimes I have these these

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 2>snap hooks. So that's that's the thing on my agenda lately.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>It's fixing that hook. Yeah. And then other than that, man,

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just living the easy life, man, and

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>just get my kids through through school and things that

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 2>that just a normal, normal life.

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>That's the way it should be, man. Yeah, that's the

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>way it should be.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:40.399
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>And then to be able to come back here, you know,

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I know you're going to be out and fans are

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>going to see your practice, but I think people are

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>going to kind of do a double take, Paul, you know,

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>because unlike a guy like maybe Teddy Troy still in

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the staff, you know, Willie's been around that.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Guys are in the media.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>You guys are in the media, and I think people go,

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Holy Strong, that's clock killing Corey Y. That's here in

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>front of us. That's gonna be a big deal for

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I think for fans around here.

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 5>Corey.

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, I've been on the ground for

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>a decade and people haven't really seen me. So yeah, man,

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 2>it's it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good to

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 2>see some familiar faces. I ain't seen it in a

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>long time, So yeah, man, I'm glad to be back.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 4>How much do you still follow the week?

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I do? I keep I keep track. I keep track, man,

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 2>every time every time the passes on, I'm watching. So

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm on it. I'm on it. You know, I'm just

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>a fan now, I'm a fanboy. Now I could just

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>sit back from the from the living room and still

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>try to call out play. Hey, wow, I'm glad you

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>guys brought that up because I was just doing I

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 2>was just doing some media things with Cincinnati as well,

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>and like I told him, man that that that week,

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting at one now out smart you know. Hey,

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm gonna see both from organizations

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>play and then the best team win. That's all I

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 2>could do. No words, no comment, is no nothing real quick.

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 4>We'll let you go.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Just the way the game is played now as a

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 3>bruising running back does that that bumm you out at

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 3>all the way that's kind of all spread and it's.

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 2>A lot of passing that which I don't It ain't.

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 2>It ain't no power football no more. It's it's more

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 2>passing and I don't And to be honest with you,

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't like how the running back position been devalued.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>So it kind of sucks kind of watching watching all

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<v Speaker 2>these things by committee, you know, but that's where that's

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<v Speaker 2>where we're at. So I gotta I'm I'm still a

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<v Speaker 2>football player and fan and love the game, so gotta

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<v Speaker 2>watch it. Gotta love it and hopefully hopefully power football

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<v Speaker 2>come back and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, the way the games change, that records.

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<v Speaker 2>Are going to be made to be broken. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think so with that running back by committee.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen sixteen hundred yards, it's going to be tough to

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<v Speaker 1>get when you're when you're sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>Those Yeah, yes, I really think so. But I said

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<v Speaker 2>that records, they go find that one stud running back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's God, that's gonna be that throwback and he and

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<v Speaker 2>he he's gonna be able to get it done. Yeah bye.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're doing it by committee, it will never happen, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Coret appreciate the time in great Thank you, thank you,

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