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Speaker 4: Good morning, Sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 4: one here lined up for you today. On today's show,

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Speaker 4: we'll discuss Jason Tatum's surgery and what it means for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, good start, but first the basketball remains great.

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Speaker 4: We'll start in the Eastern Conference and we'll move to

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Speaker 4: that game five thriller between the Thunder and Nuggets in

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Speaker 4: a little bit. But the Pacers task eliminated the Calves

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Speaker 4: one fourteen, one oh five. They advanced back to the

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Speaker 4: Eastern Conference finals. No fluke, says Indiana and their fans.

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Speaker 4: Cleveland stormed out to a big lead. Looked really good there,

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Speaker 4: but in the second quarter it was Tyre's Halibert and

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Speaker 3: They were just hanging back with all five pacers. They

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Speaker 5: The Pacers, just wear you're down. This was a five

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Speaker 5: Cleveland, like, you guys are saying up four a half.

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Speaker 5: that was playing beautiful basketball this entire season. This looked

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Speaker 4: Garland veer around this very soft pick and roll up

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Speaker 4: fifty five seconds into that second half. Nope, nope, nope, nope,

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Speaker 4: We can end this series right now. And you said

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Speaker 4: a TK. They came back with the energy and Kenny

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Speaker 4: Atkinson after the game, he said, quote the duration of

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Speaker 4: their intensity, how long the Pacers can go. They press

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Speaker 4: ton of credit for that. It's extreme ball pressure. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're a full court pressing team. We have our identity

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Speaker 4: screw that, Let's just keep playing the way we've been

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Speaker 4: And they just keep running this like they are on

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Speaker 4: an unbelievable run right now, forty two and sixteen since

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Speaker 4: January first, when you include the playoffs, these two great

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Speaker 4: series for them. They're awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like there could be a different Pacers

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Speaker 4: That getting deeper and deeper too.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Pacers. Obviously, we'll talk about them more as

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Speaker 4: But what do you do if you're Cleveland here? Is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the money is an interesting part of it. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: You love what Evan Mobile has done. So it's the

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Speaker 3: No, they got it. They got him for the Boston

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00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 3: Celtics to be able to switch on to Kristaps Porzingis

433
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,160
Speaker 3: and be tough there. But you saw him in game

434
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,400
Speaker 3: number five. He had problems s guarding Pascalciakam. It's understandable,

435
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 3: but they just went right at him when past Scalciakim

436
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 3: had an opportunity to go at him, And so that

437
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 3: is a problem. Yes, they do need a few more dogs.

438
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 3: That's just the way that it's going there for that team.

439
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 3: It is so interesting the second apron like you can't

440
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 3: take on more money in trades. Okay, that makes sense,

441
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 3: but that you can't trade more than one salary in

442
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,880
Speaker 3: one trade, that hole, you can't aggregate salaries strange, that's

443
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 3: a strange part of it. Like why can't you just

444
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 3: lump together four monstrous contracts for one little tiny one,

445
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 3: you know, like there's ways around it. Anyways, these are

446
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 3: a penalty tough rules there, do you have very tough

447
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 3: rules And yeah, it's totally true that tider room. You

448
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 3: can't bring him back.

449
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 5: You literally can't.

450
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 3: Where you can sign it ten ten mil to pay

451
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 3: sixty two millions out of the playoffs. No, no, no, no,

452
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 3: it's not.

453
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 5: They figured they figured him out. Don't let him mump you.

454
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 5: It's that easy.

455
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just he does all this reaching and stuff.

456
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: He doesn't play physically enough.

457
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 4: He got a chancellor in the second half of last

458
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 4: night's game.

459
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 5: He didn't get a couple of last game of.

460
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was trying to get the arena.

461
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 5: You're right.

462
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, he's at least trying to get

463
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 4: the He did and the arena back in.

464
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 5: Then Haliburton packed him and one the other way.

465
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and uh, and this game got very close,

466
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 4: like I guess it was Mitchell hidden insane three right,

467
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 4: and then drew a three sorry a foul in the corner.

468
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 4: Three shots are on the side. At least he missed

469
00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 4: all three of them.

470
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,239
Speaker 3: But then they go back the other they come right

471
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: back and he hits a corner three.

472
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, to bring it.

473
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 5: He was a lot of big show.

474
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: So that was wild. It went from nine to six.

475
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 3: Then he missed three free throws. Oh this is over.

476
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 3: But then the next play, yeah, he's in the corner,

477
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: hits another three.

478
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 4: What if what if he had hit those or two

479
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 4: of them even? Yeah?

480
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would have helped. He tried. He he

481
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 3: obviously tried every with every single ounce that he had

482
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 3: to get to his first conference finals ever, and it

483
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: has not happened. He had a freaking great series, even

484
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: though he's banged up, even though he didn't shoot well

485
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: in Game five, but he just needed some pals like

486
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: the Pacers did unfortunately.

487
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 4: Okay, could could the Lakers be a team maybe interested

488
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 4: in Jared Allen? They're always looking for a big man,

489
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 4: big center. That's a possibility. I don't know.

490
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 5: Are they just going to offer what they offered for

491
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 5: Mark Williams and what'd you take it? Yeah, you probably

492
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 5: get a better player. Jared Allen's still good. Yeah, it's

493
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 5: just a big time question mark in the playoffs.

494
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then as for Garland, I mean a team

495
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 4: that always comes up someone that could use some scoring

496
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: in the back court is the Orlando Magic. I don't

497
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 4: know what type of deal you're looking at there. Anthony

498
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 4: Black maybe as the p and uh picks of some sort,

499
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 4: but I don't know. It's uh, we can we can

500
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 4: explore that in the offseason. Yeah, lots of.

501
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: Time to do that.

502
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 5: I don't want to do Jonathan Isaac maybe as.

503
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 4: Well, okay, uh anything else from this game, Yeah.

504
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 5: I got some things. I thought an emblematic play was

505
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 5: early in the third quarter when it was like, are

506
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 5: the Calves gonna take this or are the Pacers gonna

507
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 5: take this? Donovan Mitchell gets a steal and man, he

508
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 5: is so slow getting up the court. Turner hustles back

509
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 5: blocks the ball at the rim. Max Strus gets the rebound,

510
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 5: but guess what, there's another guy behind him, Andrew Nemhard

511
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 5: gets the block as well. I thought that was like,

512
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 5: the Pacers are locked in right now. They sense this

513
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 5: game is there for the winning and they're not giving

514
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 5: up even on the easiest plays. But also you could

515
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: tell Mitchell had zero burst. He got that steal that

516
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 5: should have been a breakaway dunk. Yeah, and he got

517
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 5: run down by the biggest guy on the other team.

518
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

519
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 4: And I know he was saying, oh I hit it.

520
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 4: You know it was bang bank.

521
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 5: It was cool.

522
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 4: He didn't hit the backboard and all. That could have

523
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 4: been a goaltending Yeah, But the point is we shouldn't

524
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 4: even been arguing about that. It should have been a

525
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 4: fast break dunk or layup easily, but he slowed down

526
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 4: and the Pacers Yeah, they fought two guys back. That

527
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 4: was awesome. Yeah, that's a great point. Turner was really

528
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: good in this game.

529
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 5: He was awesome this whole series. The best Well, Sakham

530
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 5: was the best big you know in this he was

531
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 5: also awesome in this game. I thought he was a

532
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 5: monster in the third quarter. But Turner played tougher than

533
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 5: anybody on the Cats.

534
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you said even coming in like we were

535
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: talking like, Okay, Mobley and Allen, you know, they they

536
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 4: got to win that matchup the Bigs against Sakam and Turner.

537
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: They didn't come close. They had moments, Mobley had moments,

538
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 4: but overall, you're easily going with Siakam and Turner goes

539
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: over those two guys. How many conference finals is this

540
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 4: going to be for Siakam? After just saying I did

541
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 4: he make more than one with the Raps? Just the one?

542
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: Just the one? Well, I can't remember what he came

543
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: He came into twenty sixteen, so it must have been

544
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: right after three for him, three for him.

545
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

546
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 3: Miles Turner is a guy that people wondered would he

547
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: stay with Indiana, and there was talks about him leaving,

548
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 3: and then they traded h Monts and then he's there,

549
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: and then he just had this reputation of not being

550
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 3: a guy you could rely on. But man, the guy

551
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: just hits big shot after big shot step backs. This

552
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: man loves his step backs, and he hit the absolute

553
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: dagger even though the game was over, he hit the

554
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 3: last corner three. So yeah, he's got this incredible reputation

555
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 3: of guys you can depend on. And maybe we should

556
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: give the refs a little bit of credit for not

557
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: calling a goaltend because that could be a way for

558
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: the referees to go to the video review and see, Okay,

559
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: was it a goaltend or not? You call it and

560
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: then you can go back on it.

561
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 4: So it felt like even they were like, what are

562
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 4: you doing, Mitchell? I mean, why are you slowing down?

563
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 4: Why are you putting us in the position to maybe

564
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 4: have the I'm not going to call it any other

565
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: random notes.

566
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm all random out, Okay, So t K.

567
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 5: The only other thing I got I saw this. I

568
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 5: was rewatching the third quarter on League Pass, so you

569
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 5: get the in arena feeds, and they had like a

570
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 5: celebrity lookalikes camera and there was a guy in the

571
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 5: crowd for Cleveland who was dressed like Abe Lincoln. So

572
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: you know, I looked up a B. Lincoln. Did anybody

573
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 5: else notice this? I guess he just shows up at

574
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: these games regularly dressed like Abe Lincoln. I was like,

575
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 5: is Abe Lincoln a celebrity?

576
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 4: Put him on the cover of US Weekly?

577
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: Like?

578
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 4: Did he look like Abe Lincoln?

579
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 5: Like like like the Yeah he was. He was beefier.

580
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 5: It wasn't skinny like Abe and chat. But he did

581
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: have like the only beard, no mustache, and a dark

582
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 5: black suit.

583
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: Okay, so he's committed to it, for sure.

584
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 5: He's committed to it.

585
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 4: Give the Cavs credit for that, you know, because I

586
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: was just whining about it the other day when the

587
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: home team they give their crowd like white shirts and

588
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: then the road team is wearing a white jersey. Caps

589
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 4: did it right last night? At least they were all

590
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 4: wearing black shirts whatever the handout was, and then they

591
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 4: were in their black jerseys. It looked better, it did,

592
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: And then okay, see they take it next level. We

593
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 4: got the blues and the whites.

594
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: Maybe it was designed for a come in.

595
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 4: So he could blend in. Do it for Abe? That'll

596
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: be the rallying cry next to her on the T shirt. Well,

597
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: they had what they have earlier today. They had in

598
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: the season. Excuse me, they had the frogs. Remember that

599
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 4: was an eternity ago. But okay, remember the frog mascot

600
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 4: that would come out and dance with them a crazy

601
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: right now, like look it up, Look up Cavalier's frog.

602
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: I swear to god that happened when they were on

603
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: their fifteen game win streak. Moonfrog. No, no, no, that's

604
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: moon dog.

605
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: No.

606
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: There was like, for some reason, a frog and I

607
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: don't even know how it started, but there was like

608
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 4: an inflatable mascot frog like dancing with them when they were,

609
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 4: you know, riding high. You're like, wait, now you're shaking

610
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: your head at me.

611
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: Well, this is just a weird search search Cavaliers frog

612
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 5: on eggs and I'm seeing like a wet dog. I'm

613
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 5: seeing a dog's booty. Homer Simpson, we got it.

614
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: The Calves Frog, also known as Froggy, is a viral

615
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: Internet sensation that became a good luck charm for the Cavaliers. Uh.

616
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: She has a person dressed in an inflatable frog costume

617
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 4: who's been celebrating the victories outside of the fieldhouse. Yes,

618
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: it took off. Yes, this was this season confirmed. Okay,

619
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: I'm not crazy.

620
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: Good shout out to Google and not X were searches

621
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: on X much better.

622
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 4: On good good stuff. Okay, let's go to a fantastic,

623
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 4: pivotal Game five in Oka se SGA scores thirty one.

624
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 4: Thunderbeat the Nuggets one to twelve, one oh five. They

625
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: take the three to two lead in the Western Conference semifinals.

626
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: Came down to, obviously, the fourth quarter once again here

627
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: and it was okay See making the big plays. The

628
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: ball movement was there, the shot making was their task,

629
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: and I mean just the nerves were a little bit better.

630
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 4: And yeah it was Jokich versus the rest of the Thunder.

631
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: It felt like, once again.

632
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: Well the nerves are gone for okay. See last year

633
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: Round two against Dallas, they were home. In Game five,

634
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: Dallas got up and Oka See bailed a little bit.

635
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: They just weren't the same type of team, and it

636
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: looked like this could happen. In the first half, Denver

637
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: taking it to them, you know, destroying them on the boards,

638
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: up ten on the board wards and going into the

639
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: fourth quarter didn't look all that good. But kudos to

640
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 3: Mark Dagna playing lou Dort in hindsight, what a great

641
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 3: move while it was happening, No, don't do it now.

642
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: Obviously he put him out there for defense was the

643
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: primary thing played Jamal Murray, who had finally a bad

644
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: quarter in this game. He was one for six and

645
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter he was on that.

646
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: The start of the god he hit that tough Fina

647
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: Way jumper. Dort was in his shorts. He was like, oh,

648
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: this is the Jamal game. But then he cooled off.

649
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: He couldn't hit a three as the game went on.

650
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: But sorry, yeah, no it's and then Lou Dort on

651
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: the other end three monstrous threes in the fourth quarter

652
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: to keep this thing going. Got to mention Jalen Williams

653
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: before he doesn't get mentioned at all, because you know,

654
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: the bocks were not incredible, but this guy coming through

655
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: with the monstrous three, the good one j Dub, Yes,

656
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: j Dubb Jalen Williams obviously, yeah, he probably the best

657
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: series of his career, I mean, the the not good one.

658
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: The other one who played who played possibly yeah he played, yeah, yeah,

659
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: yeah that's what he did. But Shay, I thought you

660
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: could see the growth even in Game three, fourth quarter

661
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: he was one of eight where he tried to go

662
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: for the dagger, and then in game four, I thought

663
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: he was a little bit better at not going for

664
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: the dagger, and same one and the same in this one.

665
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: Even though he hit the dagger.

666
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: He didn't.

667
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: He just let the game happen, and you can usually

668
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: when you're up and you're sorry, when you're the big

669
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: name guy and you're asked, come on, you.

670
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 5: Know, go do it?

671
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: Are you gonna go do it? I thought that's what

672
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: he was in game three when Denver was able to

673
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 3: go up to one this series, and he's grown and

674
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: you could see that dagger triple where he was awesome,

675
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: and it goes from half to half for him because

676
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: in the first half he just wasn't himself. Four turnovers,

677
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: eleven points on eleven shots. He didn't look all that good.

678
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: Second half was monstrous eight of twelve, twenty points and

679
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: that dagger triple. To be along lud Dort and be

680
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: along Jalen Bums and be along chet Holmegrin for the ride.

681
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 3: This looked like a complete team. Look completely different than

682
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: Round two against Matts last year.

683
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: Denver went up twelve with five minutes to go in

684
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: the third quarter and for the remainder of the game,

685
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: Yokich he did his part. He went six for nine

686
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 4: had seventeen points, and the rest of the Nuggets TK

687
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: went two for twenty four, two for twenty four. I

688
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: can remember one, Jamal Bucket. I'm trying. I'm struggling to

689
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 4: remember the other one. But man, that is that's bad

690
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: because Jokich was doing everything else. But holy two for

691
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: twenty four, Yeah, definitely, that's the only one I could remember. Yeah,

692
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: that stretch. But somebody else hit one, and maybe it

693
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: was Gordon whatever, I'm not sure, but it was Yokitchen.

694
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: It was no help from these other guys.

695
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 5: You knew it was a banger because the NBA YouTube

696
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: channel had a duel, Yes, a dual clip for Shay

697
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: Gilles Alexander and Nicola Jokic forty four, fifteen and five

698
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 5: for Jokic. I saw Brad Rowland here and Atlanta said.

699
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: The box score says that Jokic had twenty potential assists

700
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 5: last night. He had five total assists last night. He

701
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 5: was passing the ball. The shots were not dropping. Shay

702
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: Gil Jose Alexander thirty one, six and seven. Watching these

703
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 5: guys trade shots down the stretch was awesome. Jokich HiT's

704
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 5: the three sixty no scope, pure swish ball, goes out

705
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: of the frame on his jumper, knocks it down. Jokers

706
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: wild an incredible shots of the crowd. Oh my goodness, man,

707
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis must have been having nightmares. Yeah, you've seen

708
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 5: that happen a whole bunch of times. The next play

709
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: down was the wide open corner three for Jadab great

710
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 5: screen by Isaiah Hartenstein to catch Jokich underneath. I mean,

711
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: I don't think Jokic was gonna get out there either way,

712
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: but smart to keep him from challenging. Then we had

713
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 5: Michael Porter Junior. What are you doing? Buddy? Ludoor was

714
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: their hero for the thunder the three threes. He had

715
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 5: the save that ended up the ball swings around. It's

716
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: like check gets that weird layup at the rim. Michael

717
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 5: Porter Junior the absolute goat I thought for the Nuggets.

718
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 5: His previous three point attempt was with seven minutes and

719
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 5: forty five seconds left in the third quarter. So by

720
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 5: the time he's taken a shot with eighteen seconds left

721
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 5: in the game, that's an hour an hour and a half.

722
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 5: Maybe I can't believe Jokic trusted him with that shot.

723
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 5: I also can't really believe that Porter took the shot

724
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: so quickly. There was eighteen seconds left on the shot clock.

725
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 5: He did take a MIDI with like six and a

726
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: half minutes left, way short on that one too. But

727
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 5: that was really the difference in this series so far

728
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 5: is that Denver's three point shooters haven't been able to shoot.

729
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 5: Yokic finally knocked him down last night. We said he

730
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 5: was gonna have to hit jumpers to be able to

731
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 5: win in this series. He was really good. But you

732
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 5: look at Porter against the Clippers, he went fifteen to

733
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: thirty four from three. That's forty four percent. So far

734
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 5: in this series, he's seven of twenty seven. Westbrook is

735
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 5: out there as well. Against the Clippers he went thirteen

736
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: of thirty one forty two percent. So far. He is

737
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 5: five for twenty five in this series. That is twenty percent.

738
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 5: I didn't think that the thunder death piece is played

739
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: all that great. Like Jaln Williams was good guarding Jokic.

740
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: He did his part.

741
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 5: Crusoe had a nice run, especially in the first half. Yep,

742
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 5: he was wisely on the bench for Dort in the

743
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 5: fourth quarter, I thought by Mark Dagnall. But the fact

744
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 5: of the matter is those guys at least played. At

745
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 5: least there are some options for Dagnall to get his

746
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: guys just a little bit of rest. You look at

747
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: the second half minutes. Yokic played all twenty four minutes

748
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 5: in the second half. There's no way he can sub out,

749
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 5: and he was still great in the fourth quarter, though

750
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 5: he was very slow on defense. You see a lot

751
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: of these three pointers by the Thunder, and it is

752
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 5: parts where Jokic maybe is dropping the ball defensively. But

753
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 5: Murray and Brown both played twenty two minutes. Gordon played

754
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: nineteen minutes on the flip side. Sga twenty two, JDub nineteen,

755
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: Dort seventeen, Hartenstein seventeen. Like, the differences aren't all that big,

756
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: but those two or three minutes are enough to have

757
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 5: a finishing kick, which the Thunder have had in back

758
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 5: to back wins. Here, two gut check wins coming from

759
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 5: down on the road and then down at home. You

760
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 5: don't want to lose that going back to play in Denver.

761
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: This is a young team. Everybody saying you gotta go

762
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 5: through it, you gotta go through it. They could not

763
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: get through it. Last year, Dallas was hot from three.

764
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: This year Denver is not hot from three, and okay,

765
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 5: see he's executing him fourth quarters.

766
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: It's impressive, huge, like not only big shot making, but

767
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: you brought up one of them. That Dort saving the

768
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 4: ball in the corner. Just huge hustle plays from a

769
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 4: lot of their guys, and maybe that part of it

770
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: that is like that Dagnel can go to his bench

771
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: a little bit more and these guys are a little

772
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: more rested and have a little more juice late in

773
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: the game because Dort saving the ball in the corner

774
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 4: after that missed SJA three, that was big. Hartenstein tipped

775
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: in an offensive rebound off a Chet jumper that fell

776
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 4: short and like Yokic mistimed it got a little too

777
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: much under the rim, but Hartenstein was right there. And

778
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: then Holmegrin blocking Murray floater attempt just awesome week side help.

779
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: After Murray finally got by Dort, you know, and sort

780
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: of was like, wow, he's maybe gonna like actually get

781
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: to the rim here on him. Nope, Chet denied them.

782
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: So those were huge, and yeah, the Yo kich Man,

783
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: he did everything offensively, but two of those Dort threes,

784
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 4: they were gassed, yo, kitch not and part of it's

785
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: the game plan, I get it. Yeah, Dort hasn't been

786
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: able to hit a three all series, so it's like him.

787
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: But like the first Dort moonball three was the one

788
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: where they stopped Aaron Gordon at the rim. It was

789
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: like three or four thunder there maybe a foul, but

790
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: it wasn't called. They come in semi transition. Dort hits

791
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 4: that first one. The second one Jokis just left him

792
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: wide open in the corner, easy shot in rhythm for Dort.

793
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: And then the third one after a few couple like

794
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: empty possessions. I think it was Jail and Williams. He

795
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 4: sort of attacked from the corner and sort of was

796
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 4: going to the paint and you know, Jokic just like

797
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: coming over to help, but it gets caught in no

798
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: man's land, just gets kicked the Dort and he hits

799
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: it on the other side of the floor. So those

800
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: were the three threes that like suddenly it was a

801
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 4: one possession game with six minutes to go in regulation.

802
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 5: But yeah, even the SGA dagger, like Jokic just slow.

803
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: They set a screen, it doesn't work. He's kind of

804
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: just lingering back there. So Hartensteinseck's a second screen, Sga

805
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 5: uses it. There's nobody there, easy pull up, and he

806
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 5: finally got the dagger he's been looking for for three

807
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 5: straight games.

808
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the months I mean Luke, excuse me,

809
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: Jokic was the guy who played every single minute of

810
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 3: the second half, just like he did last game. And

811
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: so yes, he's absolutely guessed. And that's part of the

812
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: reason why Calvin Booth was let go in the front office.

813
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: There just isn't a big to help him out. You

814
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: go to DeAndre Jordan, I mean, Dario Sarge was the play,

815
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: could be the backup center. It hasn't worked out, obviously,

816
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: they just needed some minutes and it has not helped

817
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: at all. But Dagnall making that decision on the okay

818
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: c side of not going to somebody else other than

819
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: lou Dort, who did hit threes in this series. He

820
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: hit multiple threes in games one, in games two, then

821
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: he got a little he got cold, he got super

822
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: cold in games three, Games four. But you could go

823
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: back to halftime, you could say lou Dort should be

824
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: out for Oscruso a half. Cruz was hot he's sitting

825
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: multiple threes so far. Tonight he had a couple threes

826
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: in the first half, so you could say that and

827
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: people were wondering, you can't stop Jamal Murray. He can't

828
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: hit threes. What is he out there for? But you

829
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: go to him. He stayed with it. Yes, the offensive

830
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: rebound at the end was monstrous. So great decisions, obviously.

831
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: Great decision. What a luxury too for Dannal and Oka

832
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: see to be like, well, is it Dort's night or

833
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: Caruso's night? Like, you know, we know they're gonna bring

834
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: it defensively, they are at least going to have the

835
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: energy which one of them is on, which one of

836
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: them is hitting their shot, And yeah he called it

837
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: right there.

838
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: As long as it's not Josh Getty, we're good. You

839
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: whoever out there you can play. So yeah, yeah it

840
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: has worked.

841
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 5: I mean literally Giddy was out there on the court

842
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 5: last year.

843
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's totally true.

844
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean, look, Hartenstein and obviously Caruso have

845
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: been huge and if they go to the conference finals,

846
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: if not to the finals, they're going to be a

847
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: play a big part in that. Uh, Dort too, Like

848
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: I know, Murray Yeah, Murray caught fire there. That was

849
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: the Murray flurry there in the third quarter, early in

850
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: the third quarter. But for all the times we've seen

851
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: the Murray Jokic pick and roll, which does feel a

852
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: lot of the times unstoppable, Dort is the one guy

853
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: that can actually sort of stop it because he just

854
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 4: fights his ass through in a round screens, and he's

855
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 4: fast as hell, and he's strong as hell, and yeah,

856
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: you know he's not above a good flopper too. I

857
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: love that we had a Jokic Dort flop off there

858
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: during the game. That was funny. But a lot of

859
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 4: times when Dort wants to that guy man, he gets

860
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: around a screen and stays with Murray, and like, that's

861
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 4: sort of like you gotta just put so much effort

862
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: into that's how you stop it, or at least slow

863
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: the Yokich Murray two man game up top there.

864
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: He's an incredible screen navigator. Somebody make us screen navigator.

865
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 4: Because you got to try your ass off.

866
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 5: A ton of funny actually, I mean he had an

867
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 5: R and B look at the podium afterwards, his hair

868
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: down the glasses. Yeah, he was looking very stylish. Okay,

869
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 5: so he did an awesome job guarding Murray in the

870
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 5: fourth quarter, they were trying to get chet. Holmgren switched

871
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: onto Yokich the entire time. He want that skinny guy

872
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 5: on him to pick his teeth. But Murray couldn't shake Dort.

873
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 5: Sometimes it was Jadab that ended on him as well,

874
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 5: and he stuck with Murray every single time. The size,

875
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 5: the physicality was definitely given Murray problems. I thought of

876
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 5: all of all of the Denver players, like Murray looked

877
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 5: like he was wearing it quite a bit in the

878
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 5: fourth quarter.

879
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: I mean all those threes that he that stretch where

880
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 4: he got like three three three. He put attempts and

881
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: they were all good looks, but I think they were

882
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: all short, like the legs were going on them. He

883
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: had a couple in the fourth even You're like, he's open,

884
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: he can hit that, and yep, he was clanking it.

885
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: At least he was hitting the rim unlike some of

886
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 4: the other guys. A couple more air airballs from Westbrook,

887
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: some bad ones. Those were two or three feet wide.

888
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 5: These were bad. Wow, almost like should should Peyton Watson

889
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: still be out there? He had a he had a

890
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 5: decent run at the start of the fourth quarter. He

891
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: was making plays at least, but I think he shot

892
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 5: an airball three as well.

893
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: This seemed like his hot three point night where he

894
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: hit won in the first half and Strawther hit one

895
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 3: too in the first half. Yeah, but they were depending

896
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: on those guys in the second half again, which they

897
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: have been doing obviously a lot with this team. Unfortunately,

898
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: they don't have the depth. They don't have the Wiggins, Cason, Wallace, Aaron,

899
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: they play everybody. They give you a Jay will Aaron Wiggins,

900
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: Cason Wallson, a great man.

901
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: He basically say nine or ten the thunder do where

902
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: they got the excuse me, the Nuggets got three buckets

903
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: their bench, and would you say two of them were

904
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 4: definitely in the first half.

905
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 5: Strather's was in the first half.

906
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: His three was for sure, and so I think I

907
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: think Westbrooks was that other bucket we were trying to remember.

908
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: I think he had one at the rim if I

909
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 4: remember correct. They were a little dumping.

910
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but has even taken an Isaiah Joe you out

911
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: of the rotation a little bit. Yeah, because they're playing

912
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: the rest of their depth. There's just too much depth

913
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: on that team.

914
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: My one random note from this game, just because It

915
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 4: was one of the weirder plays we've ever seen, was

916
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 4: Yokic getting called for the offensive foal when he got

917
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: tangled up with j will Big Jaalen Williams and like,

918
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: you know, obviously he thought Jaalen Williams was hooking him,

919
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: but yo Kich was sort of hooking Joe Wims and

920
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: then he sort of like ran with them across the

921
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 4: court and then they were like, I guess we got

922
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: to call something and call it offensive foul.

923
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 5: I'm that offensive?

924
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think they were like because they got

925
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: locked up, like both guys could elect of it, of course, Yeah,

926
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 4: And I think they were like, okay, who's okay? Jokich

927
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: probably could bring his arms down if you wanted to hear,

928
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: and he's going to just run with them up and this.

929
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 5: Guy, this guy's the MVP. He should get the benefit

930
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 5: of it. They should have called it earlier.

931
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: Luckily it didn't have an impact on really anything, thankfully,

932
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're right, you're right they could have called

933
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 4: it early on Jill and Williams. Did they just let

934
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: them stay there like this.

935
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 5: Ran thirty feet? That was hilarious.

936
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: I guess we're gonna call something. You're very weird.

937
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 5: You mentioned the flop off that was awesome. Third quarter

938
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 5: Dort flops on a Michael Porter junior screen offensive foul.

939
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 5: Literally the next Nuggets offensive possession, Dort screens Jokic. Jokic flops.

940
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 5: He knows, he knows when the makeup call is coming.

941
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: He's gonna get it right away. Did the same thing

942
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 5: against Jaco just Alexander Isaiah Hartenstein in Game four. I

943
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: also liked about two minutes and twenty seconds left, Jokic

944
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 5: catches the ball on the right wing, Hartenstein's closing out

945
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 5: on him. Jokic pump fakes and it looks like he

946
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 5: just hits Isaiah Harten. Yeah, I didn't know if if

947
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 5: he really got him or for it was like Chris

948
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: Bosh like, like you got hit and you're faking it. Nonetheless,

949
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 5: Hertenstein's had flies back. Kic goes and hits a top

950
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 5: floater Bank shot over Chat at the rim. That was

951
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 5: and if he did hit him, that is an illegal move.

952
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 5: You can't use the ball as like a weapon. Yeah,

953
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: but again, I don't think we ever saw a good

954
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 5: replay on whether he contacted his his snaws there but

955
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 5: his head, So he either flinched really hard or he

956
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: did get hit, but yeah, Yokic got in there.

957
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 3: Any other notes, I'm just still thinking about Jokic's last shot.

958
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 4: Oh well, the one that Sga hit where Murray was

959
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: draped on him was pretty badass too, Dan one. And

960
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: then that's when Yokic came down and yeah, did the

961
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 4: purouet three after a broken play, didn't that thing like

962
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: get spit out to half court and he had to

963
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 4: go track it down. Then he came up and did

964
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 4: his whole somber shuffle and splashes. It doesn't even like

965
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: hit anything.

966
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 3: Amazing was fun.

967
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: It was a fun game. This is an amazing series.

968
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't want this one to end, and like, thankfully

969
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: this was our only series right now at least that

970
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: was two to two now three two? Okay see? And

971
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: we go back to Denver. You think they got a

972
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 4: you know, a chance to get this back to okay see,

973
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: and it goes seven, like we were.

974
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: Predicting, there's a chance, Yeah, Denver at home, there's a chance.

975
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm feeling okay see for sure though.

976
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 4: I Mean that's they're like, look, I think it's pretty simple.

977
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 4: Somebody's got to hit shots on Denver to go along

978
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: with you'll kitch yeah, because and this is like always

979
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: the case when You'll Catch has forty to forty five

980
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 4: points or if not more, in a playoff game, they

981
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: tend to lose more than they win. It's not the

982
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: recipe they want. They want him to have the ten

983
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 4: to fifteen assists because that means he's always passing it.

984
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: But that means guys are hitting shots. Yeah, that he's

985
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: generating these open looks. So yeah, you need a Michael

986
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: Porter junior bounce back game or or the good Westbrook

987
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: game or the you know, random Christian Brown hits a

988
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 4: couple threes game, you know, like something like that. And

989
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: of course it could happen on Thursday night. Yeah it could.

990
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 4: It could.

991
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: But they're supposed to be good at home.

992
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 4: Okay. See it to go back to something you're saying

993
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 4: the beginning, TK like they are like they it's almost

994
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 4: like these are their reps, right, you know, like their

995
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: experience here because they didn't have a lot of really

996
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 4: close games during the regular season. There's wax teams most

997
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 4: of the times. Now Here in the postseason, games are closer.

998
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: They've had some bad game, one really bad bad coaching decisions,

999
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 4: a bit of a meltdown, but they're growing here as

1000
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: we go on. Over the last two at least.

1001
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 5: They're figuring out how to win. They've been better in

1002
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: the last two fourth quarters, and that was going to

1003
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 5: be Denver's advantage in this series. We got Jokic, we

1004
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 5: can figure it out in fourth quarters if it's close. Instead,

1005
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: they've blown leads in two straight games, so I think

1006
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 5: they still have a chance in game six. They got

1007
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: the big boy back home. Come on, you just got

1008
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 5: to hope for the adage to come true. Role players

1009
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: play better at home because they need somebody else to

1010
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: show up. Like you're saying, they named Michael Porter to

1011
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: Junior have double digit points at the very least, I

1012
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 5: would say, yeah, all right.

1013
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: Let's move to some NBA news here. It is official

1014
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: Celtic star chief and Tatum suffered a torn right achilles

1015
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: ten and during Monday night's playoff loss to the Knicks.

1016
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: Tatum has already undergone surgery and an exact timetable for

1017
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 4: his return not immediately clear. To make a full recovery,

1018
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: we love to see and hear that, but he could

1019
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: be out for a while here. Tass and achilles tear

1020
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 4: typically comes with a recovery timeline of eight to twelve months,

1021
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: So we may not see Tatum at all next season.

1022
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: I know it maybe depends on how the Celtics season goes,

1023
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: but it's very possible we don't see it at all

1024
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: next year.

1025
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, modern medicine is a wonderful thing. Though he could

1026
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: come back. We're talking about eight months from now. I

1027
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: mean that's not too far. It's in the middle of

1028
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 3: the regular season, towards the back end of the regular season,

1029
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: so he could come support this very good team, and

1030
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: you're just gonna ask more of Jaylen Brown and more

1031
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: of Derek White primarily. You know, Christaps Porzingis is still there,

1032
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: Kenny to have a great year. But there's still lots

1033
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: of good, good players on this team.

1034
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: So you don't think the Celtics are taking a quote

1035
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: unquote gap year.

1036
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 3: No next year, not with what they're paying right now,

1037
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: that they don't have an option really.

1038
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: No, that's that would be the option to be trading

1039
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 5: those guys. Yeah, Derek White or Kristaps Porzingis or Drew Holliday.

1040
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 5: I mean, I think any of those three is kind

1041
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 5: of on the table right now. Just because there's not

1042
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 5: a way for them to compete for the championship next year.

1043
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 5: They've already got a wicked high payroll. With a new

1044
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 5: owner coming in, they were gonna have cost cutting moves,

1045
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 5: most likely this summer, depending on how the season went.

1046
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: They could have traded Porzingis after winning back to back titles. Realistically,

1047
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 5: depending on how the new ownership is feeling like, the

1048
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 5: most extreme move would be to trade Jalen Brown tank

1049
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: the season gear up for Tatum's return in twenty six

1050
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 5: to twenty seven. I don't think they'll do that. More

1051
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 5: likely as like maybe Al Horford retires, you look at

1052
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: sending Drew Hollidays three more years somewhere else, because that's

1053
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 5: a guy that can help teams win championships. They would

1054
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: have to think the Porzingis piece, the Derek White piece league.

1055
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 5: I think those guys are potentially available as well. The

1056
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 5: Celtics are obviously a lot more accomplished. They've gone farther

1057
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 5: they won a championship. Tatum has done more. But it's

1058
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 5: not dissimilar to the balls when Derek Rose toward his

1059
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 5: acl where you're like, oh, we've got a championship contender here.

1060
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 5: They look like they're set up for a little bit.

1061
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 5: Uh oh, we lost our number one guy. Now our

1062
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 5: team isn't a championship contender? How do we scramble around that?

1063
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 5: I do think the Celtics team's going to look different

1064
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 5: at the start of next season.

1065
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: I'd argue they are a championship contender. I know it

1066
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like that, but you can end up with

1067
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 3: those guys that we just mentioned and be a four seed,

1068
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: a five seed, you can still have a championship pedigree

1069
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 3: going into the playoffs. You know, you need Tatum obviously

1070
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: to win. And we're talking eight to twelve months, Like

1071
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 3: he could be back in February, he could be back

1072
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: in March. He's not going to look the same and

1073
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: that's unfortunate. But I do think all these guys that

1074
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: were saying Derek White, he could be a number two

1075
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: guy on the team. So him and Jaalen Brown got

1076
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: to work it.

1077
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1078
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: Does this new ownership say we just bought a team,

1079
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: but we've got to rebuild this thing. I mean, I

1080
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: think they'll try and hold onto guys like Porzingis has

1081
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 3: only got one year left. You give it a whirl

1082
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: one more time and see what happens the question. But

1083
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: one is Drew Hollid. He didn't look like he's.

1084
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: Thirty four, he's starting to decline. He has a lot

1085
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 4: of years and money left you and you have guys

1086
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 4: if you're the Celtics, that you feel probably confident in

1087
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: replacing him in his minutes in obviously White and Pritchard.

1088
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 4: You have the two of them together more than makes

1089
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: up for it. So that one to me, But I

1090
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: don't know what you're looking at in return for him,

1091
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: Like Tray's right, Like the big move is like wow,

1092
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 4: it is trading Jalen Brown for pieces and obviously good

1093
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: players and maybe even picks that will help you sort

1094
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 4: of manage your books as you go on here and

1095
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: get very expensive because this is a second Apron team,

1096
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: and you just take the down year and then Tatum

1097
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: hopefully comes back and is back to like nearly one

1098
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: hundred percent as close as he can get in his prime, right,

1099
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 4: and then you sort of like start it over again.

1100
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: But that is drastic and he is a really good player,

1101
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: and maybe he'll be even morally without obviously Tatum there,

1102
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 4: But it's probably these other moves that it's the druis.

1103
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 4: It's the Porzingis, Like you say Porzingis, but the guy

1104
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 4: can't stay healthy either, So it's becoming like it's sort

1105
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 4: of Garland like. It's like, yeah, they're great players, they're

1106
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: really good, but they're never there when we need them unfortunately.

1107
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm referring to him. I'm pointing him ot

1108
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 3: because he only has one year left on a contract.

1109
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: It's not like he's got this monstrous contract for five

1110
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 3: five more years. What are you getting for Porzingis now?

1111
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 3: Probably not a lot. I have thirty million dollars coming

1112
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: off the books, plus all the luxury tax that you

1113
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 3: pay for. It could be the recipe here, That could

1114
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: be the move unless somebody wants to take a chance

1115
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: on Christaps Porzingis. I mean they need a big is

1116
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 3: what after you know, evaluating this holes this whole roster.

1117
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: They need somebody to replace not only Porzingis but Al

1118
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: Horford as he gets old. Who who is playing center

1119
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: for this team in a couple of years.

1120
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 5: I think Cornett's even a free agent, right, yes? Yeah, yeah,

1121
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 5: so they're big rotation can look quite different.

1122
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, how many notable injuries we've had just this

1123
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 4: postseason alone? With now the Tatum injury here the torn

1124
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 4: achilles Damian Lillard with the blood clots and the torn achilles,

1125
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: Curry with the hamstring strain. That's obviously had a huge

1126
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: impact on what's going out going on out West. I

1127
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: guess even Garland, all the cass guys that we've already

1128
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: talked about. Jimmy Butler did have a pelvic contusion, He

1129
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: did miss a game. He in the postseason, John Morant

1130
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: hip contusion. I mean, just I can keep going.

1131
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, Kawhi Leonard played seven of seven games.

1132
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: He did, he did, he did, But you know, you

1133
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: get it's a lot of times. We see it time

1134
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: and time again. It's like, and I'm not saying who's

1135
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: the healthy, healthiest team wins because like look at last year.

1136
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 4: I mean the Celtics weren't fully healthy. They were missing

1137
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 4: a key piece, but they they're star players for the

1138
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: most part, were and it plays a part. And almost

1139
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 4: every championship, it feels like or it can in terms

1140
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 4: of just staying healthy and keeping your core good through

1141
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: the postseason, which is not short. It's like two months

1142
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: long after a grueling regular season. But some of these

1143
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 4: are flukes and some of these are just like I mean,

1144
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 4: even the Tatum one. When you think about it, it's

1145
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 4: like he was lunching for the ball. He's just done

1146
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: it a million times. So what happened on this millionth time? Well,

1147
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: he's played a lot of games. I guess people say

1148
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: that has anyone played more than him over the since

1149
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 4: he came into the league. I don't think so turns

1150
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 4: a regular season and playoffs. Yeah, but it's like, damn,

1151
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 4: just bad luck.

1152
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 5: Just bad luck. Yeah, Drew Smith tore his achilles this year.

1153
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 5: He's played like eight game. It just happens.

1154
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Drew Smith, I'd forgotten about it.

1155
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 5: That's when I had happened to the young guys.

1156
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: Here too, is playing through a shoulder spring until bandaged up.

1157
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: So that is the playoffs and that's postseason. Anything else

1158
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: on this on the Celtics, on Tatum, what it means

1159
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: for the rest of the league, I mean you've talked

1160
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of like, wow, what an opening here?

1161
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: Even more in the Eastern Conference.

1162
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I mean, if you're honest or you're like

1163
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 5: I'd like to stay on an Eastern Conference team, maybe,

1164
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 5: I mean, he plays for one, so that's a that's

1165
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 5: a chance. I also don't necessarily think the Celtics are

1166
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: buried against the Knicks. They're still in a playoff series

1167
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: right now, they are, they are down three to one.

1168
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they looking good, they're going to MSG.

1169
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 5: But this is the perfect time to overlook a team

1170
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 5: when they're missing a guy after an injury. I heard

1171
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 5: Windhorse said, or maybe as Bon Tim said that the

1172
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: Celtics were so down after losing Jason Tatum losing the game.

1173
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 5: Obviously they're on the verge of elimination without their best player.

1174
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 5: That's an easy one to overlook. If you're the New

1175
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 5: York Nick. You know, they had their huge Game three

1176
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 5: that they turtled away as well, So we'll see how

1177
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 5: they work.

1178
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: You're right, you know, if you get it tonight, because

1179
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: you sort of catch the Knicks sleeping, then suddenly you

1180
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 4: go you're back at Madison Square Garden, and it's like

1181
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: then the pressure almost starts to turn to them because

1182
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 4: it's like, you gotta close it out here. You want

1183
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 4: to go Game seven in Boston. Yeah, you're right, it's

1184
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: not over. I just feel the way the Knicks are

1185
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 4: playing to how the Celtics are playing, Yeah, I I

1186
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 4: like their chances to win one of three games.

1187
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 5: I guess, Oh, it's advantage next. Absolutely, I'm talking about

1188
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 5: like in a one game scenario. Yeah, And are they

1189
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 5: going to lose tonight? I don't know, right, maybe Jalen

1190
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 5: Brown goes for forty points in the Celtics ate twenty

1191
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 5: five threes. That's still a reasonable thing to happen, though.

1192
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 5: Tatum is like their number one generator of three pointers,

1193
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 5: So we'll have to see how the playmaking is for

1194
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 5: guys like Drew Holliday and Derek White. Derek White's kind

1195
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 5: of been the beneficiary of a lot of these swing

1196
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 5: swing passes. He's got to be the guy that starts

1197
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 5: the swinging as well.

1198
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 4: Yep. Other news, the Portland Trailblazers are for sale. The

1199
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: estate of former owner Paul Allen announced Tuesday that it

1200
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: has begun a pros to sell the franchise that is

1201
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: expected to bleed into the twenty five to twenty six season.

1202
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 4: All proceeds from the sale will go toward philanth Fullan.

1203
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 5: You know what I'm trying to say, philanthropy.

1204
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 4: Philanthropic is what I was trying to say. Endeavors per

1205
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: Allen's wishes, the team announced, So yeah, Paul Allen co

1206
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: founder of Microsoft. He purchased the Blazers for seventy million

1207
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty eight, and he passed in twenty eighteen.

1208
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 4: Following the death, his estate has run this headed by

1209
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 4: his sister, Jody Allen. But they're saying now tasks that

1210
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 4: they are looking to sell.

1211
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: Interesting who wants it?

1212
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 4: Phil Knight and Nike Cool? Yeah, I guess his son.

1213
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: Maybe he's old, he's eighty seven. I think Phil Knight is,

1214
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: but his son is with Kick Yeah. Whatever it could

1215
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: be in the family here obviously in the area as

1216
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 4: the possibility they Phil Knight did try and buy them

1217
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago with some like real estate mogul,

1218
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: but that never happened and actually probably good on the

1219
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: Blazers and the and the trust to not sell at

1220
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 4: that time and just wait because Celtics are likely selling

1221
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: for what six point one billion, which does elevate all

1222
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 4: team values. Not I don't not the Blazers are going

1223
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: to go for that. But you get my point here.

1224
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: I think they're recently valued. The Blazers are about three

1225
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: point five billion, So can you get three?

1226
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: You get four?

1227
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 4: Something like that?

1228
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 5: You can maybe you can.

1229
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: That's a quick check right from Phil Knight. No prom

1230
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: simple math there.

1231
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: Oh do you think his signature is the Nike check?

1232
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 5: Should just be yea draw?

1233
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, wait to see her.

1234
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 5: I don't think you were meaning to say it, like

1235
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 5: just do it, but just draw it. It's pretty funny.

1236
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: I definitely mean too good.

1237
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 5: Time to get in on the Blazers though they had

1238
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 5: a fun second half of the season. The weird thing

1239
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 5: about it is that all of their veterans were out

1240
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 5: outside of Denny Abdia. But like Ayton didn't play a

1241
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 5: ton down the stretch, Simons didn't play a ton down

1242
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 5: the stretch. Jeremy Grant, this guy is still on the

1243
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 5: books until twenty twenty eight. Unbelievable. Good to be friends

1244
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 5: with Damian Lillard, I suppose. But they got a lot

1245
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 5: of young talent there, and unfortunately they're in the Western Conference,

1246
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 5: so uphill battle for sure. But they were a fun

1247
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 5: young team to watch. I thought in the second half

1248
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 5: Chauncey Billups had him playing defense locked in and that

1249
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 5: was the best they've looked basically since Billups took over.

1250
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, trajectory is upward for sure.

1251
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be interesting to see what Joe Cronin

1252
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: does with the roster period because this coming year is

1253
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: the last year for not Jeremy Grant, but everybody else

1254
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 3: basically not a Danny Avya, probably one of the best

1255
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: dollars per point contract in the league, along with Andrew Neimhart.

1256
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 3: I would throw him in there since we're just talking

1257
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 3: about him, but that guy makes a ridiculous contract. But

1258
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: just him and Jeremy Grant are the only guaranteed ones really,

1259
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: So after this coming year, Eighton's off the book, Simon's

1260
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 3: is off the books, Robert Williams off the books, Matteeth

1261
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: Steibel is no longer there. But then you know you

1262
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: got your young guys still in scoot clinging. Yeah, very bright,

1263
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: very bright future.

1264
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 4: One series down, three to go, two potential closeouts. Tonight,

1265
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 4: Knicks at Celtics seven pm Eastern on TNT, so as

1266
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: we talked about, can the Knicks win this in five

1267
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: or can Boston get it back to Madison Square Garden.

1268
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 4: And then we got the Warriors at Timberwolves at nine p

1269
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 4: thirty on TNT, Minnesota leading three to one, they can

1270
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 4: close out this series, and we know Steph Curry is

1271
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 4: not playing in Game five, so two chances here to

1272
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 4: wrap up these series and Minnesota back to the Western

1273
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 4: Conference Finals and the Knicks to go to their first

1274
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference Finals in a very very long time. That's

1275
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 4: in play tonight.

1276
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 5: I like the series ending in both scenarios tonight.

1277
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, Knicks on the road and Wolves at home.

1278
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 5: Just because I said that Celtics can win doesn't mean

1279
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 5: you're going to say, yeah, but you've covered your bases down.

1280
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 5: They can't win. They absolutely can. But then I got it.

1281
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 4: Okay, so you got Nicks, Wolves where you're going to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm taking the Celtics. Why not? Because I said

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Speaker 3: the same thing about the Cavs yesterday. I felt like

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Speaker 3: they will win one game at home this series, So

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Speaker 3: I'm saying the same thing for the Celtics. They haven't

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Speaker 3: won a home game yet. They've got to do it.

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Speaker 3: They've got it. They've got obviously a great home crowd.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what they can do.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a Jalen Brown game for them.

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Speaker 4: And the second game.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's a toughie. I think I do think

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Speaker 3: it's over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm sort of with you. It feels like

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Speaker 4: they smell blood, that team, and they and the Wolves

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Speaker 4: are like they get to approach this game going, hey,

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Speaker 4: let's just win this now and then there's no Steph

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Speaker 4: Curry coming back to hit like ten threes on us motivator.

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Speaker 4: Let's just do it right now. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 4: Celtics Wolves. I'll take both home teams. I think Boston

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Speaker 4: I like that. Maybe you know we win one for

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Speaker 4: the for Tatum type of vibe from them tonight and

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Speaker 4: that crowd should be electric to behind that squad to

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Speaker 4: maybe get it back there. So Nick Wolves, let's hear

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Speaker 4: from you guys in the stream, team your predictions. We'll

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Speaker 4: be back tomorrow to break down those games. Get into

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Speaker 4: the NBA News. Hopefully you'll join us then at ten

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Speaker 4: a m. Eastern till then Clipper Brose.

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Speaker 5: You heard it here first A great time turn up.

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Speaker 5: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember former teammates could both

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Speaker 3: advance to the conference finals tonight in Anthony Edwards and

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Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns. You think they call each other and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: congratulations on advancing to the conference finals. That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Well, if the nixt win, Siakam could call her text

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Speaker 4: O g Annobi too say hey, man, we're gonna play

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Speaker 4: each other.

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Speaker 5: You think all the Villanova guys will call it Donte

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Speaker 5: divincenz Off.

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Speaker 3: They went, yeah, sounds like a great short.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, say like, especially right before his game. It might

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Speaker 4: be wrapping up. It might he might be, Hey, we

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Speaker 4: made it are Yeah, you make it too. Our commercials

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Speaker 4: on non stop. All right, we'll be back tomorrow morning, guys.

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Speaker 4: Brace the day, people,