WEBVTT - The Return of Jim Crow

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to it could happen here a podcast where the

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<v Speaker 2>thin veneer of democracy that has hitherto veiled the settler

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<v Speaker 2>colony of the United States in the mask of humanity

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<v Speaker 2>is being increasingly ripped away, leaving behind. I think calling

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<v Speaker 2>it a new Jim Crow is that title has already

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<v Speaker 2>been used for something else. But it's a return overtly

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the worst discrimination of the Jim Crow era.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm your host, Miya Wong. Let's talk about what

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<v Speaker 2>is actually at issue here, and that is a recent

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court ruling called Louisiana v. Kalay. On a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of micro level, this is about the question of can

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<v Speaker 2>Louisiana just eliminate the two majority black districts that it

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<v Speaker 2>had in its congressional map in twenty twenty four. Getting

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<v Speaker 2>to this map in the first place was a subject

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<v Speaker 2>of really intense civil rights litigation to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where there were two majority black districts in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. On a macro level, what is that stake

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<v Speaker 2>here is can a state create an electoral map where

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<v Speaker 2>they spread all of the black voters across different districts

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<v Speaker 2>in order to make them a minority in every district,

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<v Speaker 2>thus making it impossible for black voters select the candidate

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<v Speaker 2>if they're choosing. Until now, the answer was no, because

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<v Speaker 2>this is specifically what the Voting Rights Act was passed

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<v Speaker 2>to stop. Like this, specifically like this, This is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the very specific things. I cannot emphasize this enough,

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<v Speaker 2>this specific thing which is spread out the black vote

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<v Speaker 2>across a whole bunch of districts where everyone else is white,

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<v Speaker 2>so that black people cannot choose who they want to elect.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like one of the specific things it was

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<v Speaker 2>designed to stop. Again, up until now, you have not

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<v Speaker 2>been allowed to do this, and this has led to

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<v Speaker 2>the creation of what are called minority majority districts. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a long and complicated history that frankly could be

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<v Speaker 2>its own. It probably is like multiple people's doctoral dissertations.

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<v Speaker 2>The short, short version of what a minority majority district

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<v Speaker 2>is is it's a district where the majority of voters

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<v Speaker 2>are from a minority group, thus allowing people from a

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<v Speaker 2>minority group to select a candidate of their choosing. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of these districts in the South, specifically

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent Republican politicians from making it impossible for black

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<v Speaker 2>voters to elect anyone they chose. And fundamentally, what's at

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<v Speaker 2>stake here, right, is the constitutional right to elect the

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<v Speaker 2>candidates of your choosing if you are part of a

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<v Speaker 2>minority group. Right. This is why all of this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>was passed in the first place, because under what we

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<v Speaker 2>call Jim Crow, it was extremely easy for a white

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<v Speaker 2>majority to simply effectively deny the rights of black people.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is other non white people too, but like

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<v Speaker 2>this is primarily black people. It was it was very,

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to simply deny them from ever getting to

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<v Speaker 2>elect anyone by just drawing maps where a candidate they

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<v Speaker 2>would vote for can never be elected. This is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the basis of Jim Crow over discrimination. The Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court has decided no, Actually, what they decided is that

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<v Speaker 2>if the Republican party that controls the legislature draws a

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<v Speaker 2>map that does the thing we've been talking about, where

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<v Speaker 2>they spread out all of the like specifically the black

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<v Speaker 2>vote into a bunch of districts, so that black people

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<v Speaker 2>can't elect a representative. In order to challenge this as

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<v Speaker 2>violation of your voting rights, you have to prove definitively

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<v Speaker 2>prove that the intent was racism and not literally anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>So for example, and this is this is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's really at issue here, right, you have to prove

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<v Speaker 2>that they specifically wanted to do this out of racism

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<v Speaker 2>and not just because they want to elect Republicans by

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<v Speaker 2>jerrymandering it partisan lee, which is amazingly a thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>legal to do in the United States for reasons that

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<v Speaker 2>are incredibly baffling. And also you have to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to prove that they created this map specifically out of

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<v Speaker 2>the intention to disenfranchise a minority group. And also you

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<v Speaker 2>have to create a map that would allow them to

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<v Speaker 2>achieve whatever other goals they supposedly want, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>again making sure that Republicans have all the seats in

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<v Speaker 2>a state, but also would not be racist. So you

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<v Speaker 2>have to create a map for them that would allow

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<v Speaker 2>them to do this in order to prove that there

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<v Speaker 2>could be another map that achieves their goals of like

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<v Speaker 2>partisan jerrymandering that isn't also racist. It's completely unhinged legally,

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<v Speaker 2>this this is a shambles. We have covered some downright

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<v Speaker 2>like hideous nonsense on this show in terms of Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court decisions, right, Like this Supreme Court has just the

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<v Speaker 2>lowest level of legal literacy in like living memory of

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<v Speaker 2>any Supreme Court. It is astounding the kinds of just

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<v Speaker 2>absolute horseshit they are popping out with this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>maybe their worst ruling, which is difficult to prove because

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<v Speaker 2>there have been so many abhorrent ones. Even just from

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<v Speaker 2>a pure legal perspective, this one is so bad it

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<v Speaker 2>defies belief. So, okay, one of the main issues here

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<v Speaker 2>is Section two of the Voting Rights Act. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna read what it says, Quote, No voting qualifications or

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<v Speaker 2>prerequisite to voting, or standard practice or procedure shall be

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<v Speaker 2>imposed or applied by any state or political subdivision in

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<v Speaker 2>a manner which results keep that in mind later, which

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<v Speaker 2>results in a denial or a bridge of the right

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<v Speaker 2>of any citizen of the United States to vote on

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<v Speaker 2>account of race or color, or in contravention of the

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<v Speaker 2>guarantees set forth in section nineteen seventy three B. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of emphasize this enough, right, So, the way

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<v Speaker 2>this is written is that it says that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>apply qualification or prerequisite to voting, or have any standard

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<v Speaker 2>or practice or procedure cannot be imposed by the state,

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<v Speaker 2>or any other political subdivision that results in the denial

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<v Speaker 2>or abridgment of the rights of citizens, vote and account

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<v Speaker 2>of race. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It specifically says results. It does not say intent. Now

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<v Speaker 3>this is incredibly important because Alito is like, no, fuck that, Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to proven intent.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to quote from a piece of Scotus blog

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<v Speaker 2>by Edward Foley, who has an extremely long title of

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<v Speaker 2>the Charles b Ever Sold in Florence Whitcomb Ever Sold

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<v Speaker 2>share and constitutional law. As the director of Election at

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<v Speaker 2>Law at Ohio State University, You're written a book on

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<v Speaker 2>like poral law. He is a constitutional law professor who

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<v Speaker 2>specifically does election law. He is like, by no means

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<v Speaker 2>a leftist. He's coming into the right of Justice Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>in her dissent in this case. Right, but even he

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to quote what he writes about this. He

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<v Speaker 2>calls this ruling an abomination, which is like a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't really get from like legal people. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't say shit like that. I'm going to quote what

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<v Speaker 2>he says about this quote. The ruling purports to interpret

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<v Speaker 2>the Voting Rights Section two, but it destroys the central

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<v Speaker 2>meaning of the section, converting it into the exact opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of what Congress meant for it to do.

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<v Speaker 4>The one thing that is unambiguous about Section two is

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<v Speaker 4>that the nineteen eighty two amendment to the section's test

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<v Speaker 4>creates a quote results test for determining whether there is

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<v Speaker 4>liability under the section, replacing the intent test that the

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court had previously adopted for Section two claims, as

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<v Speaker 4>the tech states, quote, no standard practice or procedure shall

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<v Speaker 4>be imposed which results in a denial or abridgment of

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<v Speaker 4>the right of any citizen to.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote on account of race. Yet the case defiantly converts

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<v Speaker 2>Section two back to an intention inquiry rather than a

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<v Speaker 2>results analysis. So what happened here, right, To make this

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<v Speaker 2>extremely clear, is that Congress in nineteen eighty two had

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<v Speaker 2>amended this. They amended what this thing said, right because

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court had been adopting a standard of intent, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which means that you have to prove that, like these

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<v Speaker 2>people were like mustache whirling saying the N word in

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<v Speaker 2>fucking clan robes, doing Nazi solutions. You have to like

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<v Speaker 2>prove that they intentionally did this for racist reasons and

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<v Speaker 2>not any other reason. And Congress went back and went, no,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck that if the result of it is racist, then

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do it, even if, like nominally, what you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying out loud is that you're doing this for non

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<v Speaker 2>racist reasons. If the result is racism, then you have

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<v Speaker 2>to not do it. And Alito goes, yeah, no, fuck that,

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<v Speaker 2>We're just like flipping it back to an intent standard

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<v Speaker 2>for no reason other than I want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do racism and help Republican Party win seats. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing that fully talks about is the Court is

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that, like, Congress can't draw from the fifteenth Amendment

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<v Speaker 2>in order in order to like have the Voting Rice

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<v Speaker 2>Act work in the first place, I'm going to quote

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<v Speaker 2>him again. Yeah, the Court in this decision did not

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<v Speaker 2>need to consider the question of Congressional power to enforce

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteenth Amendment. That is because the power of Congress

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<v Speaker 2>to enact Section two with the Voting Rights Amendment for

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<v Speaker 2>the purposes of the case could have been sustained not

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<v Speaker 2>under the Fifteenth Amendment, but under Article one, Section four

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<v Speaker 2>of the Constitution. Congress has full power under Article one,

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<v Speaker 2>section four to enact laws governing the quote, time, place,

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<v Speaker 2>and manner of congressional elections. Thus, Congress can enact a

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<v Speaker 2>prohibition against minority vote dilution for congres national districts under

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<v Speaker 2>a dispriat impact theory without any consideration of discriminatory attent,

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<v Speaker 2>and not rely on the Fifteenth Amendment at all. So, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what does this mean? Right? What Alito is saying is that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh well, actually, Congress doesn't have the authority to like

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<v Speaker 2>write the secution of the Voting Rights Amendment. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the authority to do it under the fifteenth Amendment

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<v Speaker 2>because it like oversteps the rights of states to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like run their own elections. Right, So I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>the thing I did last time with Fully's thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>just read the full Article one, section four of the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, when something says like Article one, section four,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to remember that all of the amendments, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the amendment that got rid of slavery, even like the

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<v Speaker 2>first Amendment, right, the freedom of speech, that's an amendment

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<v Speaker 2>that's not in the original text that had to be

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<v Speaker 2>added onto it. And obviously we have something called the

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<v Speaker 2>Bill of Rights that like you know, was like the

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<v Speaker 2>first ten amendments that was passed with the Constitution. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's not stuff that was like put like a freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of worship that was

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<v Speaker 2>not in the original texts of the Constitution. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the amendments put on. This is something that the people

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<v Speaker 2>who were at the Constitution were like, fuck if this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be in the original thing, right, So Article one,

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<v Speaker 2>Session four, this is from like the original fucking body

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<v Speaker 2>of text of the Constitution says, quote, the times, places

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<v Speaker 2>and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives shall

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<v Speaker 2>be prescribed in each state by the Legislature thereof. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Congress may at any time, by law, make or

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<v Speaker 2>alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing senators.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, obviously they could fucking do the Voting Rights Amendment.

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<v Speaker 3>They literally have the ability, Like it says in Section on,

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<v Speaker 3>Congress may at any time, by law, make or alter

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<v Speaker 3>such regulations. By such regulations they mean the times, places

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<v Speaker 3>and manner of holding elections. They could just do this, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously they can fucking do the Voting Rights Amendment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's literally just there in the cunstumitation. It just

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<v Speaker 3>says that if.

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<v Speaker 2>All like this, it's gibberish.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh my god, you can just read the

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<v Speaker 3>text of the Constitution and it says you can do this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's God holy shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Even from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Perspective of like if you treat the law as real,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just pure Calvin Ball shit, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just Jesus Christ. Okay, you know what's real and

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<v Speaker 2>not Calvin Ball. It's it's these products and services we

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<v Speaker 2>are back. So, okay, what has the result of this been.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been about two weeks since the Court did this decision.

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<v Speaker 2>The Court immediately followed this up by allowing Alabama to

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<v Speaker 2>jerrymander the shit out of their upcoming election. They're doing

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<v Speaker 2>this via again, the shadow docket, which is their ability

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<v Speaker 2>to just be like, no, fuck you, we're not ruling

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<v Speaker 2>on this case out actually issuing a decision, an unsigned,

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<v Speaker 2>one paragraph thing from the court can just dictate what

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<v Speaker 2>the law is. It's great, it's amazing, and by amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Jesus fucking Christ. This happens about a week

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<v Speaker 2>after the original screw Court decision. This shadow docket allows

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama to put in place a map that was already

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<v Speaker 2>found to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be explicitly racially motivated, a thing Alito said in a

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<v Speaker 1>decision that he wouldn't do right. Alito says in a

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<v Speaker 1>decision that he won't overturn a cases that are like

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<v Speaker 1>avert discrimination and b that he wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Overturn this exact case, and then they did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, It's like Jesus Christ, I're.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like, oh my God. So the short version of

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<v Speaker 2>the Alabama conflict I'm drawing here from Slat's story on

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<v Speaker 2>this thing is that Alabama tried to do a map

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<v Speaker 2>that would let them get rid of like both of

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<v Speaker 2>the congressional black Congression candidates in the states by jerymandering

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<v Speaker 2>the black vote. There's a whole bunch of court cases

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<v Speaker 2>about this. In twenty twenty three, the Supreme Court said

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<v Speaker 2>that they couldn't do this and they had to make

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<v Speaker 2>fairer districts that didn't like violate the Voting Rights Act.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was three years ago. This, like the Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court said they had to do this. Here's some Slate quote. Alabama, however,

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<v Speaker 2>refused to comply with that order.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, like they got an order from the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>and refused to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote. So the lower court imposed its own map featuring

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<v Speaker 2>two districts where black voters had a real shot at

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<v Speaker 2>choosing their representative. The court also found that, in defying

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<v Speaker 2>its previous mandate, the Alabama legislature had engaged in intentional

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<v Speaker 2>racial discrimination, violating the Fourteenth Amendments Equal Protection Clause in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to the Voting Rights Act. Up until Monday, this

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<v Speaker 2>decision had prevented the legislature from joining the former Confederate

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<v Speaker 2>States now racing to eliminate black representatives from their congressional delegations.

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama Republicans pressed the Dish Act Court to lift its bar,

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<v Speaker 2>but it refused, so they filed an emergency request at

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court asking permission to read jerrymander black communities

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<v Speaker 2>in light of this decision. Now, I can't emphasize enough

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<v Speaker 2>this vote from when they were granted this position. This

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<v Speaker 2>vote is in like eight days, right, people had already

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<v Speaker 2>started voting for candidates and primaries, right, And Streme Court

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, sure, yeah, you can. You can fucking

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<v Speaker 2>rejerrymander this thing eight days before the election. That's absolutely fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though again I canna emphasize this enough in the ruling,

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<v Speaker 2>Alito specifically said in the majority opinion that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>overturn this exact case, and then they did it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>mind boggling. It used to be, like it really truly did.

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<v Speaker 2>Used to be that if you were going to do

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<v Speaker 2>shit like this, you had to like sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>pretend that you were following some kind of legal order.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you just don't. You can just fucking do

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<v Speaker 2>Calvin ballshit. You can just literally lie about what you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing and you're just saying and then just fucking do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want about it. And obviously, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>Slave points on. This has been pointed out by a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of different outlets. The Supreme Court also had

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<v Speaker 2>used another legal principle to prevent states that would have

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to like make more democratic maps, both in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense of like not being racist and also that

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<v Speaker 2>would elect more democratic politicians. And even though it was

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<v Speaker 2>three months before the election, the court was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually too soon, like it's too close the election

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<v Speaker 2>for you to be changing this stuff. But then also

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<v Speaker 2>now they're just letting Alabama do one of these like

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<v Speaker 2>eight days before an election. So it's so incredibly clear

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<v Speaker 2>about what's happening here is that the Court is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to allow Republican politicians to just straight up rig elections.

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<v Speaker 2>For them by doing gerrymandered districts in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>lets them eliminate the ability of non white people to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a huge fucking deal. Getting the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five Voting Rights Act was one of the major

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<v Speaker 2>achievements of the Civil rights movement. Right, It's like, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest goals of the moderate wing of the

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<v Speaker 2>movement was to have elections in which black people got

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<v Speaker 2>to actually fucking vote and not have their vote intentionally

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<v Speaker 2>diluted so they could never actually elect a candidate. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's being done here, right, And this has been

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<v Speaker 2>pointed out. It's like anyone who's read any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>analysis of racial politics in the US. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>consistent themes of the sort of you know what you

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<v Speaker 2>would call, I guess like the era of black uprising, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of modern era stretching from roughly Ferguson I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could talk about the stuff in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bay before that, or roughly from Ferguson through twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>was that the US was not a democracy before the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty five Voting Rights Act because the principle of

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<v Speaker 2>one person, one vote was not real because you could

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<v Speaker 2>simply disenfranchise anyone from a minority group, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>the status quo of the South, and also like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other parts of the country too, was this

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<v Speaker 2>very overtability of these people to you know, not only

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<v Speaker 2>just like this is this is one of the components

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<v Speaker 2>of segregation. Right. It's not just like imposing segregation legally

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<v Speaker 2>in public spaces, right, it's also you know, like preventing

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<v Speaker 2>it's preventing black people from voting. And this is the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that the Supreme Court ruling has just effectively destroyed. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's the thing that like made it possible to even

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like in the loosest sense possible, called this

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<v Speaker 2>country a democracy. And it's gone. It's just gone. And

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<v Speaker 2>now you know, it's like okay, like what what fucking

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<v Speaker 2>is this now? And you know, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's an even more just extremely overt Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Crow state, this is what the goal of the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>Party has always been, Like they want resegregation. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>the basis of modern Republican politics forever. Right, It's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>dating back to you if you want to look at

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<v Speaker 2>like what trump Ism dessentdsful We've talked about this at

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<v Speaker 2>length on the show. The thing that became the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of religious right was originally born out of like the

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<v Speaker 2>school choice movement. And the thing about the school choice

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<v Speaker 2>movement was that it was an anti integration thing. After

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<v Speaker 2>losing their fight to be able to have whites on

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<v Speaker 2>these schools, a bunch of these sort of right wingers

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<v Speaker 2>were like, Okay, well, we'll just do private schools where

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<v Speaker 2>we can do that. And that's the basis of modern

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<v Speaker 2>Republican politics, right, you know, sort of both evangelicalism and

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the Bush administration and trump Ism and Reagan too.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this shit, and this has been what the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>have done when they've been in power. Right, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot a lot of the Trump administration, like what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing, like all of the stuff about DEI, all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff about wokeness like this is also a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of what doche is doing was trying to make it

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<v Speaker 2>so that black people like couldn't work for the US government. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a huge purge of black women from the

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<v Speaker 2>US government. And you know, now we're seeing this on

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<v Speaker 2>the level of elections and on this level what Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to do with these gerrymandered maps, is remove

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<v Speaker 2>non white people and especially black people from Congress so

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<v Speaker 2>they can just have untrammeled white supremacist rule. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it by claiming both that it's actually partisan. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just partisan jerrymandering, which is legal to disenfranchise black vetters

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<v Speaker 2>because black vetters won't openly vote for the party of

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<v Speaker 2>white supremacy. And they're also claiming that like, not doing

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<v Speaker 2>this is like infringing on the civil rights of white people,

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that like is completely you know, just gibberish

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<v Speaker 2>world turned upside down nonsense. But if they can just

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<v Speaker 2>do that now because they're in power, because the court

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<v Speaker 2>will just let them do this shit. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>think in a way that really has not been conveyed

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<v Speaker 2>in the media in the discourse, like this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of Bleak's moments of this administration, right you know, on

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<v Speaker 2>top of just the multiple gedocides they're committing, right on

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<v Speaker 2>top of you know, just like the ethnic cleansing of

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<v Speaker 2>no white people from the US that ICE is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're what they're doing right now is attempting to end

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<v Speaker 2>multi racial democracy in the US. And obviously, politically, I

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<v Speaker 2>have my critiques of like electoral democracy as a concept,

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<v Speaker 2>but having it just revert back to only white people

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<v Speaker 2>get to decide who politicians are is something even worse

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<v Speaker 2>than what we've had so far. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>seismic shift in just literally what this country is towards

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<v Speaker 2>something that unbelievably an unfathomably weak state of pure white rule.

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<v Speaker 2>And the people who are talking about this think that

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<v Speaker 2>it can be reversed just by voting more, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>it can't. The whole point of this right is to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that elections and you know, whatever the will

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<v Speaker 2>of the people is is incapable of actually affecting the

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<v Speaker 2>white supremacist state because not white people just don't get votes.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't just vote harder your way through all of

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<v Speaker 2>this shit. You have to actually do things. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if we don't want to live in a white supremacist society,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to have to actually take action to combat

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<v Speaker 2>and actually resist the fact that this is like this

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<v Speaker 2>is just a pure white supremacist Jim Crow state. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so this has been cold happened here. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a nonbleaque way to end this, but the common refrain

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<v Speaker 2>is if you've ever asked yourself what you would be

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<v Speaker 2>doing in Nazi Germany, it's right now, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can also add to that right if you've ever

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<v Speaker 2>asked yourself what would you be doing during Jim Crow,

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is whatever the fuck you're doing now, and

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