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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Hell for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 3: Edith State is that woo woom?

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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the solid Verbal Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 4: name is ty Hill, the brand that guy over there.

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Speaker 4: My good friend Dan Rubinstein, still in sunny southern California.

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Speaker 4: Happy Friday, June the nineteenth. Thank you for stopping on,

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Speaker 4: Bye for coming on back to talk more college football.

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Speaker 4: We announced it on the Wednesday show we'd be dropping

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Speaker 4: a show this Friday. Friday has come.

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Speaker 3: Dan and uh, I'm excited about today's show. Well, certainly, Tye,

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Speaker 3: I am as well. And that's for a number of reasons. One,

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Speaker 3: we get to nerd out. I get to nerd out

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Speaker 3: over I guess Oregon football, but not really just offense

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Speaker 3: in general, x's and O stuff in general. Joe moorehead

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Speaker 3: joining the show. Very excited to catch with him. We

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Speaker 3: spoke to him a couple of years ago. But perhaps

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Speaker 3: even more importantly for me, ty I just took a coffee.

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Speaker 3: Napp oh, I feel great. I feel great. So if

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Speaker 3: you want to solve a bunch of world problems right now,

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Speaker 3: before we get into news and before we get into

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Speaker 3: X's and O's scheme. Ready stuff, Lay it on me,

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Speaker 3: Lay it on me. I'm ready.

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Speaker 4: by our good friend Peter Hoffman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would also stress that our show is

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Speaker 3: intended to be listened to at normal speed. Every so

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Speaker 3: often we get an email from somebody saying, did you

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Speaker 3: you gotta slow down. Dan, you're going a mile a

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Speaker 3: minute and we really need you to pause between sentences.

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Speaker 3: And it turns out there listening at two or three times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know how that happens. It has happened

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Speaker 4: to me using various apps. But every now and again,

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Speaker 4: you're right. We got one a couple weeks ago. Gentlemen

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Speaker 4: listened and said, Dan, you talk too fast. You got

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Speaker 4: to slow it down. You're broadcasters. You seem like you're

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Speaker 4: talking normal speed to me. And yeah, sometimes technology please

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Speaker 4: tricks on us. That's part of the beauty in it.

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Speaker 4: On today's show, we're going to discuss some news tidbits,

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Speaker 4: and then we're going to get into a wonderful interview.

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Speaker 4: My question for you, though, is am I able to

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Speaker 4: play my news hit?

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to yell breaking news because I'm just

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Speaker 4: I'm not feeling it today, not feeling that chippery yet,

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Speaker 4: but we got to introduce the sound back in and

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Speaker 4: get things started off on the right foot. Serious subject though,

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Speaker 4: to start here. Thirteen Texas players have tested positive for

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Speaker 4: COVID nineteen. All thirteen of them are now self isolating.

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Speaker 4: Ten more players were identified through contact tracing. They're also

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Speaker 4: in self quarantine, but asymptomatic at this time. According to

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Speaker 4: So it's good that nobody's having to throw everything together,

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Speaker 3: right now, when you have this voluntary workout period, that

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Speaker 4: the gatorbait cheer and associated band performance. There's a racist

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Speaker 3: And if that includes adding Tom Petty to any sort

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Speaker 4: And AIA schools are prohibited from playing before September the twelfth,

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Speaker 4: which means there have been and some scheduling changes, some cancelations.

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Speaker 3: Now they've been straight up canceled. It's something worth monitoring,

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Speaker 3: at least for the short term. Obviously, smaller schools are

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Speaker 3: and so they're taking precautions. I just I hope everything

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Speaker 4: Elsewhere in scheduling news, we have news that Ohio State

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Speaker 4: man in twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight. I

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Speaker 4: did the math. Nick Saban would be seventy five years

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Speaker 3: What a Billy Napier, Luke Fickle matchup, Matt Campbell, Jeremy

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Speaker 3: Pruitt or Mario Christobal matchup. It I couldn't see either coach,

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Speaker 3: at the same time, so hopefully that's still the case

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, Ty, you will

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Speaker 4: doing some backup the Napkin math, and if I am correct, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we'll be in our forties. But this could potentially be

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Speaker 4: a matchup between a fifty seven year old Dabo Sweeney

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Speaker 1: Never know whoaver know?

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Speaker 3: Good math, Ty, good math. And then I think I

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Speaker 3: saw Wazoo and Mississippi State have scheduled a home and

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Speaker 1: I will not be there for that game. No say

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and agree with

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Speaker 3: you on that one tie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he won't be there.

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Speaker 4: And finally, for our new segment this evening, Duke's Mayonnaise.

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Speaker 4: Initially I read this as the school Duke They're mayonnaise,

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Speaker 4: But apparently Duke's Mayonnaise is a brand.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean? Apparently? Come on?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: Really, you didn't know Duke's Mayo. It's a famous mayo brand.

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Speaker 3: I never heard of Duke's. I've heard of Helman's. Wait

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Speaker 3: until I introduced it a Japanese Mayo tie.

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Speaker 4: New title sponsor of the regular season college football game

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Speaker 1: So here is the deal.

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Speaker 4: You can always email us at solid verbal at gmail

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Speaker 4: We're always interested in your feedback. But one of the

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Speaker 1: And we've got one of those today.

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Speaker 3: Don't we not just we've got a pretty major one too.

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Speaker 3: And Joe Morehead, who not just from what he's accomplished.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited about this interview again, going out to Instagram,

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Speaker 3: In and with that I welcome in brand new Oregon

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Speaker 3: how'd the cross country move go? During a pandemic?

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Speaker 2: We bought an RV and packed everyone in including the dog,

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Speaker 3: So other than everything, how is your job right now?

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Speaker 3: How is your profession? I imagine night and day from what

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's been surreal in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: So things don't work out in Starkville, which I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I think it was a combination of things. Location a

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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, it's kind of funny. I haven't really not

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Speaker 2: Oregon had been successful last year offensively, But what can

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Speaker 2: You know, what can we do offensively not only to

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Speaker 3: Something I think is fascinating hearing some head coaches talk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that the change won't be as

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Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say, I'm sure there's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a combination of both. Ultimately, it's

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Speaker 2: You know, Mississippi State we had to be more run

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Speaker 2: only two thousand yard rushers that were on a non

436
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Speaker 2: option based team, and then Jordan was one of the

437
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: top rushers in the country in that ten season. But yeah,

438
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: they're phenomenal backs. And I think Sharm's still in the league,

439
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken.

440
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: How do you start to evaluate new players, new personnel.

441
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: Obviously with Mario Christobaul's background and you have the returning

442
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 3: Outland Trophy winner and Panae sewell, are you looking at

443
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: things from the inside out and saying, this is what

444
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: we have on the line, this is how it will

445
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: dictate what we do as we look at the passing game,

446
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 3: as we look at the running game. You know, do

447
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: you have a luxury that you are dealing in such

448
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: a I guess an offensive line forward grouping at this point.

449
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think games are one up front, regardless of

450
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: the of the league. You know, mose to four or

451
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: five starters, you know, that's something where we feel comfortable

452
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: with the people who are replacing them. It's just right

453
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: now excoose me a lack of repetitions. But if you're

454
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 2: going to start somewhere with an anker the outlet trophy,

455
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: there's certainly a good spot. So, you know, we feel

456
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 2: good about the guys that we have. It's just a

457
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: matter of getting them, getting them practice and reps in

458
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: the system, and hopefully we'll be able to do that

459
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Speaker 2: sometime soon.

460
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Speaker 3: You mentioned changing what the passing game will look like.

461
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: That'll be the thing that looks most different. What did

462
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: you see. I mean, obviously Justin Herbert gets taken in

463
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: the top ten and then they finish really successfully this season.

464
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: What did you see from the passing game last year?

465
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Speaker 3: And where did you see I suppose opportunity for evolution.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the things is we went back and

467
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: kind of watched the game tapes and watched the cutups.

468
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: Is I think that Oregon was really proficient in the

469
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: screen game last year, and not just bubble screens, but

470
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: double screens, wide receiver screens. You know, a bunch of

471
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: really neat stuff there. And then some things in the

472
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 2: play action game that I thought were We're you know,

473
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 2: very efficient and effective. And I think that the part

474
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Speaker 2: what we're going to try to improve the most is

475
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: I we want to be balanced, we want to be efficient,

476
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: and then the thing we need to prove on the most.

477
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: I think these explosiveness, you know, our ability to take

478
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: advantage where people are crowded line of scrimmage, you know,

479
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: and creating one on one matchups on the outside to

480
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: scheme it up and get that thing thrown over.

481
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Speaker 3: People said, essentially, what you are is a teacher, and

482
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Speaker 3: obviously as a teacher, you're only going to be as

483
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: successful as your students are at learning and applying. So

484
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: you're obviously tasked with both coaching and finding players to coach.

485
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 3: How do you how do you find and develop good learners?

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think part of that comes into in the

487
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: recruit process, you know, as you're going through and evaluating guys,

488
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: and it's not just you know, the height, the weight, speed,

489
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: the football ability, but you know, how much do they

490
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: love football? What's your IQ relative to the game and

491
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: their commitment to the preparation aspect of it. But uh,

492
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, to me, you've got to teach to the

493
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: understanding of the guy in the room who understands it

494
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: the least and kind of work from there. So you're right,

495
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: and I hold that kind of title was a teacher

496
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: with great respect, And I think you really if they're

497
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: not getting it. Generally speaking, it's not the player, it's

498
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: the coach. So you got to find a way in

499
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: a generation where kids all learn differently and most effectively

500
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: kind of communicate the information.

501
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: How do you get a sense for I suppose what

502
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: players already know when you're coming into a new program,

503
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: and obviously you know they spoke a different language last year.

504
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: They certainly every every coach teaches differently, so they learned

505
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: in a different way. Perhaps, how do you get a

506
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: sense for what they already know? And is that important

507
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: or do you like, you know, starting from square one

508
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 3: with everybody, so everybody's on the same page.

509
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of it's trans and you'll start with

510
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: bigger group meetings and kind of talk about general philosophy

511
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: and you know, you know, broad strokes ideas, and then

512
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: break it down into your positions and hey, you know

513
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: we're running this play and this is who we're reading

514
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: or this is what we call this coverage? What did

515
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: you call it? And just kind of ask more open

516
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: ended questions for them to explain, you know, rather than

517
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: talking talking with them rather than at them. And I

518
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: think when you have a good discourse and dialogue in

519
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: the room. You know, generally speaking, that that provides the

520
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: coach or a teacher with a pretty good base of understanding,

521
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: you know, kind of kind of fundamentally technique wise and

522
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: scheme wise as well.

523
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Speaker 3: Do you ask those same questions in the recruiting process

524
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: to get a sense for players? Obviously you're both trying

525
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: to convince them to come play for you, but at

526
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: the same time you're trying to convince yourself that they

527
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 3: would make sense as as a person in your program.

528
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: Are you asking them questions to get a sense of

529
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: how they would respond to what you would ask of them.

530
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: I think you tried to as much as you can,

531
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: but I do think it's in my opinion, most critical

532
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: critical at the quarterback position. With what you're asking kids

533
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: to do at this level, and not just in the

534
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: past game, but then the run game, there has to

535
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: be a certain level of commitment to the preparation aspect

536
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: of it is. I tell them it's not a position,

537
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: it's a lifestyle, and you can be good and be

538
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: a part time quarterback, but the ones who generally exceed

539
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: and excel. And there was a real good article I

540
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: read online a couple of days ago by kind of

541
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: somebody the measurable and kind of statistics go into a

542
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: kid in this high school senior year, and then how

543
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: that carries on through college and into the pros and

544
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: certainly some that's going to be subjective, some of that's

545
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: going to be objective. But you try to make is

546
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: informed a of an evaluation as you can.

547
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: Where do you think you've gotten stronger, Where do you

548
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 3: think you've gotten better? As somebody looking for quarterbacks and

549
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: you know, looking what looking for what traits matter to you?

550
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 3: Where what does your evolution look like as a as

551
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: a quarterback and recruiting evaluator.

552
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: I think it's compiling all the information and then you know,

553
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: getting the kid on campus, and there's something to having

554
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: a kid in the room looking out of my eye

555
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: and just kind of getting the feel of that. You know,

556
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: I said, when a quarterback walks in the room, you shouldn't

557
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: have to ask this a quarterback now that that's not

558
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: the deal breaker. But you know, you talk about the

559
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: height to weight, the speed, and then there's a series

560
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: of things in our evaluation process arm strength, touch, accuracy,

561
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: you know, poison the pocket. You know, I want to

562
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: know their record, I want to know completion, percentage, touchdown,

563
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: interception ratio, you know, rushes yards, touchdown, all those things,

564
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: and it's uh, you know it's and that's what I

565
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: guess they call it the inexact science. You know you

566
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: miss sometimes, but you try to make, like I said,

567
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: as informed of a decision as you can based on

568
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: all the information that's available.

569
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: Will you, when you're recruiting, will you show cut ups

570
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: to a receiver, a running back, a quarterback and say

571
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: this is how we you know, this is how we're

572
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 3: going to use you in at the exposition and we're

573
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: going to hammer you hammered defense is using this route?

574
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: Will you? Will you sort of give that visual element?

575
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: Does that seem to help?

576
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, particularly when you're coming from a place where

577
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: you know you weren't there the year before. And uh,

578
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: you know, guys want to know about and rightfully so

579
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: utilization in the scheme and you know there's no better way.

580
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: And we have you know, film from all the different

581
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: places I've been and backing it up by statistics and numbers,

582
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: and you know, when they can kind of it's easy

583
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: to tell them, uh, and talk about what kids, what

584
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: you recall from what you hear, you know, what you

585
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: repeat what you write down. I think they call the

586
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: modalities learning, but I think for them to visually see

587
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: it on the screen. Okay, here's the ex receiver, here's

588
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: the route, here's what it's called. Here's here how we're

589
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: going to get you the ball. And this is what

590
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: the production of this position has been.

591
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Speaker 4: Uh.

592
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: I think that's that's it provides. You talk about decision

593
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: making criteria, It provides the kid, you know, the information

594
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: he needs each relatively scheme.

595
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: One of the things you're credited with, and I think

596
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: rightfully so, is popularizing and taking the RPO game and

597
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: moving it forward, be it at Fordham, be it at

598
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: Penn State, wherever, and when you look at and there's

599
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: a school of thought now that running backs are as

600
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: important as ever, but not necessarily because the running game

601
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: is as important as it's ever been, but more the

602
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: versatility of a running back, the ability to create mismatches

603
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: out of a running back, is more important than ever.

604
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: Is that something you subscribe to that perhaps running the

605
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: ball isn't what it used to be, but the value

606
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: of the running back is as important as it's ever been.

607
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if a guy has that kind of

608
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: positional flexibility, to have a catch the ball out of

609
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: the back of the lineup in the slot. That makes

610
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: you suffer to defend. But historically we've been you know,

611
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: a team that wants to get the ball to the back,

612
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: you know, in a traditional way. But also in year two,

613
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: you know, Penn State, where people were crowd in the box,

614
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: we had to find ways to get saquant on a

615
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: perimeter like you remember from the Michigan game or some

616
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: of the others up in the slot. We were able

617
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: to really grow some things in the RPO game at

618
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: Mississippi State that you know, to the casual like I said,

619
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: people may not even know it's an RPO, but to me,

620
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: the RPO system is really designed to improve your rushing

621
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: and then take advantage of throws when people are over crowdy,

622
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: use a lot of scrimmage.

623
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Speaker 3: Something that's and you mentioned that the sort of the

624
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: positionless aspect, and it used to be that a tweeter

625
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: type player was seen as a negative or a weakness,

626
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: and now it's almost an opportunity to find a position,

627
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: to find a challenger, to find multiple positions to to

628
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: sort of feature that player. Almost like in basketball, how

629
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: you have you know, teams going small. Is that something

630
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: that can be developed or are taught, or do you

631
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: just need to get lucky with a player built a

632
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: very specific way.

633
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

634
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: I think the two positions you've probably seen that show

635
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: up the most is quarterback, where you have you have

636
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: the kind of the dual threat guys I mean who

637
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: are able to beat it with their arms and their legs.

638
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: I think where you're seeing it the most. I think

639
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: we've done a pretty good job is at tight end,

640
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, where their traditional you know,

641
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: got a three point stance, you know, next to the tackle.

642
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: You know, blocking two back power fifty times a game.

643
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: You know those days are just about over, you know

644
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: what I mean. But guys like Mikeasicki, Travis Kelce, you know,

645
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: all those guys who can do those things, but also

646
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: line up off the ball, line up in the spot

647
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: you know, line up is one or two and get

648
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: those mismatches. I think you know, the tight end position

649
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: is the one that's really allowing offenses to have a

650
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: great deal of flexibility without changing personnel.

651
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: Would you say that's a priority, and what you're looking

652
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Speaker 3: to do at Oregon is really maximize what the tight

653
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Speaker 3: end can do in the offense.

654
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Speaker 2: I do, and you know, we've got a bunch of

655
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: good ones, and unfortunately we've only had four practices to see,

656
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: but I think we we did the study. I think

657
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: over the last ten years, the tight ends to this

658
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: offense of average forty five catches a year. So it's

659
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: always been a very integral part of our system. And

660
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: not just like I said, because they have to block,

661
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: back alignment and catch like a receiver. So anytime you

662
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: can find those mismatches and you know, create create opportunities

663
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: for those guys and get the ball down the field,

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Speaker 2: I think that's always important.

665
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Speaker 3: You've now had a number of assistants and gas and

666
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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people now know about, you know,

667
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Speaker 3: the coaching relationship and the friendship you have with Joe

668
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: Brady who was so successful for LSU last year. They

669
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Speaker 3: go on to become coordinators and head coaches and really succeed.

670
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Speaker 3: And you've worked with a lot of successful people on

671
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Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. How much of your creative

672
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Speaker 3: relationships with former colleagues continue when you're no longer working

673
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Speaker 3: together in the same room together, Like, will you watch

674
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Speaker 3: tape of what they're doing and how they're tweaking maybe

675
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Speaker 3: something they learned with or from you.

676
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody saw enough of LSC the Last life.

677
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Speaker 2: But I was actually I was actually texting with with Joe,

678
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: with Joe Brady today a little bit earlier. But yeah,

679
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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at the guys in that ped

680
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: State room, and you know, coach Huf at Alabama, Ricky's

681
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: now the head coach at Odu, Josh at at Michigan,

682
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Speaker 2: Joe Brady, I mean, and so on down the line.

683
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Speaker 2: Those are the great things about the profession. That's not

684
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Speaker 2: just the wins and the losses and all those things,

685
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: but the relationships that you form. And you know, I've

686
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: just been very fortunate to work for a bunch of

687
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: great head coaches and then also have a bunch of

688
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 2: great guys, you know, on our offensive staffs who have

689
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: kind of taken the system and kind of tweaked it

690
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: to their own and grown to have a ton of success.

691
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Speaker 2: That's that's very rewarding.

692
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Speaker 3: What's your idea collection process? Like, obviously it's it's players

693
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: overplay something you mentioned earlier, But are you constantly scouring?

694
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Speaker 3: Do you have gas and you know quality can troll

695
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: guys and you know analysts. Are they constantly scouring? Are

696
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: you telling people to look for you know, what is

697
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: this team had a ton of success in the passing game?

698
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Speaker 3: Would you give me some cutups?

699
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Speaker 2: Are you?

700
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Speaker 3: Is that like a year long process? Is that an

701
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Speaker 3: off season process? What is what does that creative collection

702
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Speaker 3: look like for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of went to the wayside a little

704
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Speaker 2: bit this year, just because I'm sure however called. But

705
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Speaker 2: that's that's usually when during the month of the spring

706
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Speaker 2: evaluation period, kind of that last two weeks April and

707
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Speaker 2: May is when you kind of forge the gas in

708
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Speaker 2: the analysts, and we usually talk about it and say,

709
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: all right, these are the teams that we want to study.

710
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Speaker 2: And while we're out on the road recruiting, those guys

711
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: are breaking down the film. And then when you come

712
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Speaker 2: back in June, after you watch your own cutups, then

713
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Speaker 2: you do your off season studies, and then as you're

714
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Speaker 2: building your menu for Paul Camp, that's usually when you

715
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: integrate some of the ideas of the teams that you studied,

716
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Speaker 2: and you know there's a scheme or two or three.

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Speaker 4: That are.

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Speaker 2: Kind of you know, fit what you do. I mean,

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00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of tremendous ideas out there, but a

720
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: lot of them are just great. You just got to

721
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Speaker 2: make you want to make sure not only you studying

722
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Speaker 2: the right people, but they're ones that if you're going

723
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Speaker 2: to incorporate the idea, that that it's relatively seen, will

724
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Speaker 2: send to your scheme.

725
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Speaker 3: So I assume you've had some time on your hands.

726
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Speaker 3: Who have you watched? Who have you been impressed by?

727
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Speaker 3: If if you've had the opportunity to watch any cutups,

728
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Speaker 3: we haven't.

729
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: We've I've been doing more opponent study and watching ourselves

730
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Speaker 2: and then off season study just because there's not going

731
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Speaker 2: to be time to integrate it, you know, And that's

732
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: the one thing, you know, talk to some people there.

733
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: You've really got to be judicious in your approach. Now

734
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: with no springball, you get some walk throughs, then you

735
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Speaker 2: get Paul Camp. You know, you're really I don't think

736
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: personally you're going to be able to expand the idea base,

737
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: particularly with the year one offense. You're going to need

738
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Speaker 2: to kind of narrow it down to get the necessary

739
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: reps you know, during camp to kind of hit the

740
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Speaker 2: ground run in week one.

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Speaker 3: So not for Oregon, but for I assume pretty much

742
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Speaker 3: every school, especially ones with perhaps new coordinators. Do you anticipate,

743
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Speaker 3: you know, if everything goes off as I think everybody

744
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: hopes this fall, do you anticipate a lot of sort

745
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: of simplified playbooks across the sport man?

746
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Speaker 2: Conventional wisdom would probably dictate that, I don't, you know,

747
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: don't want to kind of make a journalization, but sure,

748
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 2: you know, to me, it'll come down to culture, It'll

749
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: come down to scheme, but most importantly the execution of

750
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: the scheme, and in a lot of ways some simplicity

751
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: always helps with that.

752
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Speaker 3: So now, what's what's next? As far as you can

753
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: tell with installation and practice, you tell me, I mean

754
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Speaker 3: what what do you know?

755
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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: What is what?

757
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Speaker 2: You know?

758
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Speaker 3: As much as you know what right now? Like what

759
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: are you doing next week? What are you doing tomorrow?

760
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Speaker 2: What?

761
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Speaker 3: What is on the schedule?

762
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Speaker 2: I mean, we we've we've uh, you know, we've had

763
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Speaker 2: kids going back to campus kind in waves, just like

764
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: everybody else. But we're not going to be able based

765
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: on the NCAA calendar start because aditionally meeting with them

766
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: again until a little bit further down the road. So

767
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Speaker 2: you know, right now we're recruiting our tails off, we're

768
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Speaker 2: kind of watching the things that we did in springball,

769
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Speaker 2: kind of anticipating that time we're going to be able

770
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Speaker 2: to get back together with them. And you know, then,

771
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Speaker 2: really I'm going to say it's a refresher course, but

772
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Speaker 2: you're not. There's four days worth of spring cutups, so

773
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Speaker 2: you're not going to do that. So you're going to

774
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Speaker 2: kind of take that proposed springball installation calendar that you

775
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: had and we're kind of modifying it to get it

776
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Speaker 2: ready for those walkers and for fall camp.

777
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Speaker 3: Can you be sending out you know, iPad playbooks. Can

778
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: you be sending out notes like what is the process

779
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: like to keep players sort of engaged intellectually with what

780
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 3: they can expect cumfall camp.

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Speaker 2: You know, we kind of cut the time. You know,

782
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: you obviously know there's discretionary weeks and things like that

783
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: whe're not you're not able to get with them, and

784
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: we certainly had heered all of that. But during the time,

785
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Speaker 2: I think all the Zoom meetings that we've done the

786
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: past or whatever timeframe was when we were allowed to,

787
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Speaker 2: you know, really allowed us to slow down and kind

788
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: of be very detail oriented in our teaching and approach.

789
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Speaker 2: And sometimes we would have meetings where we would only

790
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: get through two or three plays, and that was fantastic

791
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Speaker 2: because you were meeting so many times a week for

792
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: a certain amount of time that you weren't rushing to

793
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: get it taught, to get on the field and practice it.

794
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: You were really not bound by any constraint of you know,

795
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: getting on the field, if that makes sense. So you

796
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: could really really slow down the teaching of it, and

797
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Speaker 2: I thought in very difficult times that was a positive

798
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: aspect of it.

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Speaker 3: And something that hasn't slowed down because it never will

800
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Speaker 3: slow down, is recruiting. So you are, you're new to Eugene,

801
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: you're new to a program, you're asked and you know,

802
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's difficult enough to sort of hit the

803
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: ground running with something that's at least at first unfamiliar,

804
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: but you're convincing kids to come play for you, come

805
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: play in a system that they haven't really fully seen

806
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: with the personnel that you now have. How has recruiting

807
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: been in this in this new world? Obviously Oregon has

808
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Speaker 3: has really done a great job thus far, But you know,

809
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Speaker 3: for you personally, what has that experience been like?

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Speaker 2: It's been fantastic. And I remember you know, a few

811
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Speaker 2: years ago the big question was can the guy from

812
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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania come to Mississippi and recruit yep, and we responded

813
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Speaker 2: with three top twenty five classes and three out of

814
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Speaker 2: high shoming classes in school history. So to me, there's

815
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Speaker 2: you start with how much positive you know the city,

816
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: the school, uh, you know, the success coach Chrys, the ball,

817
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Speaker 2: you know, the offensive scheme, you know winning a Rose Bowl,

818
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Speaker 2: you know, finishing number five in the country, and then

819
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Speaker 2: you certainly our track record of success in the system

820
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Speaker 2: over the years. I think he combined all those things

821
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Speaker 2: and you know, makes Oregon a very veriable, very very

822
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Speaker 2: attractive destination for kids who are looking.

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Speaker 3: All right, final question, what have been your impressions in

824
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Speaker 3: this short time of Eugene, Oregon your new hometown. You know,

825
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Speaker 3: have you found meals you like? Have you found parks

826
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Speaker 3: to walk a dog?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: Have you have you found at least some sort of

829
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Speaker 3: routine in a very strange time with a brand new job.

830
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Speaker 2: You're begging for routine because just like Groundhog Day, No,

831
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Speaker 2: I mean it's incredibly temperate. I mean you're situated in

832
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Speaker 2: Eugene that the ocean's forty five minutes to the west.

833
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Speaker 2: You know, there's mountains and trails and kind of outdoorsy stuff,

834
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Speaker 2: which coming from Pittsburgh wasn't really kind of my deal.

835
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Speaker 2: But my family likes that, so as long as they're

836
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Speaker 2: happy with that part of it, I'm happy. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: certainly it's a when I say unique in a very

838
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Speaker 2: positive way, just because there's so many different things to

839
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Speaker 2: do here. We've really kind of taken to Eugene pretty quickly.

840
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Speaker 3: Joe Morehead, thank you very much for your time and

841
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Speaker 3: good luck.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate Dan. Thank you very much.

843
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Speaker 3: All right, that was my conversation with Joe Morehead. Thank

844
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