1 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: Good evening, America. 2 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Wednesday edition of Justin News. No noise, Yep, 3 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: We're just one day away from Thanksgavan. Hopefully you're getting 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: traveling or preparing for some great time with family and friends. 5 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Solomon Report. 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: If you guys, always from Washington, DC and the Wiedofish 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: Coffee dot Com Studios. 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We are just a day before Thanksgiving. 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: We are less than two months from the beginning of 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: the Trump presidency, at least Trump two point zero presidency, 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: and a long time ago. I was reminded when I 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: first came to Washington and met this Democrat, he was 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 2: a Congressman from New Mexico named Bill Richardson, and he said, John, 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: as energy goes, so goes the country. And today we're 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: going to dig a deeper dive. And what that means 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty four, our energy needs are 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: higher than ever, if we're going to win the AI 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: War with China, if we're going to make prices come down, 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: and end energy poverty in America. Tonight we're going to 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: have that very conversation with some of the best experts 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: we can find on the planet. Now, before we get 32 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: to them, let me turn to my amazing coos Amanda Head, 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: who comes in every point at this show and tells 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: us about some headlines of Amanda, you know what's on 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: your mind. I think you've got a lot to think 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: about with energy these days as well. 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 5: And while we focus on the revival of the American 40 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 5: energy sector tonight, we're also going to take a look 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: at what the left is saying about it. And to 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 5: put it simply, while they're really not happy about Republicans 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: plan to ramp up energy because instead of worrying about 44 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 5: things like increasing American energy production to cut down on 45 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 5: costs for all Americans, slash inflation, and rely less on 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 5: other foreign powers, all of which I think most Americans. 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 6: Would agree a good things. 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 5: But they are worried about climate change. They are so 49 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 5: worried about it, in fact, that many Democrats and members 50 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: of the Biden administration were in attendance at the UN's 51 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: Top twenty nine Climate summit just two weeks ago, and 52 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 5: they said some things that just really don't make sense. 53 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 5: Thank for example, Democrat Senator Sheldon Whitehouse who claimed that 54 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 5: there is no way to bring down the cost of oil. 55 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Check it out. 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 7: You simply cannot have energy security if you are dependent 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 7: on a product whose price you can't control domestically. When 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 7: a foreign cartel drives the price of oil and gas, 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 7: it will always be out of America's control. That is 60 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 7: not energy security. 61 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 5: Unless you buy American and then, of course the price 62 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: goes down. But it is very clear that doesn't really 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 5: know exactly what he's talking about, because if America starts 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: producing more oil, more natural gas, really any kind of energy, 65 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 5: and exports that out to the rest of the world, 66 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: we can now set the price of energy around the world, 67 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: and we did that under the first Trump administration. They 68 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 5: also talked a lot at the conference about China, and 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: they claim that if America produces more oil, it actually 70 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 5: plays right into China's hands. And again I don't think 71 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 5: they know what they're talking about. Here's President Trump's pick 72 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 5: for Interior Secretary, Doug Bergham, explaining how producing more oil 73 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: does not help China, it hurts it. 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 8: This administration had blinking, yelling and Kerry go over there 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 8: this summer, and none of them talked about energy with China. 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 8: China imports ten million barrels of oil every day. 77 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: They're the largest importer in the world. 78 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 8: We have an opportunity to be energy dominant in the 79 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 8: United States. If you're going to have a negotiation with China, 80 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 8: the first thing on the table is energy. And instead, 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 8: we've got an energy policy in this country that I 82 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 8: think was written by China. Because we're trying to kill 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 8: the US energy industry, moved all evs and then buy 84 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 8: all our batteries from China. If we're trying to strategically decouple, 85 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 8: then why do we have an energy policy which is 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 8: not good for the environment, Because China's making those batteries 87 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 8: by tearing up the whole planet. In the Congo, in 88 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 8: Indonesia and then they're building them in factories that are 89 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 8: powered by coal, because they're opening a coal plant every 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 8: two weeks in China. 91 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 5: Now it brofer the notion that with the exception of 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 5: folks like Joe manchinin maybe a few other Democrats, they 93 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 5: really don't seem to have a grasp on what energy 94 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 5: production means for this country and it's further effects on 95 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 5: our economy. But we're going to talk all about that 96 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: and much more on today's special episode of Just the 97 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: New no Noise. So, John, I'm going to turn it 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 5: back over to you so we can deal. 99 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 9: With our first guest. 100 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: Boy that great conversation with Governor Burgham, he really gets it. 101 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: He sets a smart guy, an entrepreneur. That's the sort 102 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: of guy that's going to make history in the next 103 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: four years as the energies are. 104 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, nowhere in. 105 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: America is the debate and to be more intense or 106 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: important in the next six months and in Congress when 107 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: it comes to energy. We got a perfect first guest 108 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: to kick us off on that journey. What an exciting 109 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: time to be a conversation about what's around the corner. Yes, 110 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: it's the eve before Thanksgiving, but twenty twenty five has 111 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: so much promise for the American people. 112 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: And I've been up on capitolholl a lot lately. 113 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Such focus, such focus on what the mission needs to be, 114 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: what needs to be done. Very lucky to be joined 115 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: by a member from Congress from one of my favorite states, 116 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: the great state of Minnesota, Congressman Pete Stopper. Congressman, good 117 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: to have you on, sir. 118 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 9: It's great to be with you. John and Amanda. Thanks 119 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 9: for having me. 120 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: It's a great honor. 121 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: You have done so much to help us understand over 122 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: the last couple of years the relationship between energy and 123 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: natural resources and what it costs us downstream, because if 124 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: gas prices or mineral prices go up, everything downstream becomes 125 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: more expensive. Is next year the day of the year 126 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: that the inflation dials get turned down? 127 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 9: Well, listen, I'm excited about the opportunity for next year. 128 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 9: You know what, we just came out the election of 129 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 9: the American people voted the Republicans into the House and 130 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 9: the taken over the Senate, and of course to President 131 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 9: Trump in the world White House. As our forty seven president. 132 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 9: I think that we have an opportunity and I think 133 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 9: a responsibility to put America back on track, and that 134 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 9: means energy independent, critical mineral dominance. We need to be 135 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 9: a mining powerhouse. We need to secure our borders, have 136 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 9: a foreign policy that supports and protects America and our allies. 137 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 9: And the list continues to go on and on, and 138 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 9: I'm really really excited about this opportunity. You know, we've 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 9: had a conference elections late last week and they went 140 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 9: very smooth. As I say, I think on the Republic 141 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 9: in the Republican House, there's peace in our valley, and 142 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 9: we want to deliver for the American people. 143 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: Pretty exciting, absolutely, sir. 144 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: I want to ask you about what this administration is 145 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: going to look like with kind of a new veneer 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 5: on it, because we look back to twenty sixteen and 147 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: Americans ever since then have become really accustomed to having 148 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 5: business people move into Washington and takeover industries. And Chris 149 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 5: Wright as the nominee for Energy Secretary, if he is confirmed, 150 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 5: he'll be the first time and energy executive steps into 151 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: that role. How consequential will that be? 152 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 9: Well, I think it's really good, going to be really consequential. 153 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 9: You know, President Trump has put forth these men and 154 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 9: women that he believes can lead their respective agencies in 155 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 9: a way that puts America first, that fits his agenda 156 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 9: and our agenda, the American agenda. So I'm excited. You know, 157 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 9: the Senate has excuse me, Senate has a lot of 158 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 9: work to do, and you know, come January twentieth, they'll 159 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 9: be confirming these nominees. But I think the most important 160 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 9: thing that we can do is as a Republican party 161 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 9: is get ready for day one. 162 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Don't. 163 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 9: We're not spinning up on day one. We're already preparing legislation, 164 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 9: our priorities, what we need to do to get America 165 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 9: back on track right away. And I know that President 166 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 9: Trump agrees with that. He does not want to spinning 167 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 9: our wheels. You know, we've got a country to save, 168 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 9: and save it we will. 169 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's such a unanimity of what the agenda is 170 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: going to be next year. It's going to be very 171 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: interesting to watch Congress get through it quickly. So you 172 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: talk about mining, and it's such an important thing. When 173 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: we were reminded last week of some of the short 174 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: sightedness of the Obama Biden years back a decade. 175 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Ago, there were these a one to two three agreements. 176 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: We gave a whole bunch of contracts to Russia to 177 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: sell us there uranium, which made our utilities dependent on it. 178 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: And now that Russia's mad at us, they're cutting off 179 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: that supply, leaving our utilities in some pretty big danger 180 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: cuse we kind of closed down our uranium industry. Here, 181 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: what are the important places where mining in America needs 182 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: to go? 183 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: I know, copper uranium or two. I hear a lot. 184 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 9: Well, I think that mining is going to happen throughout 185 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 9: the country. You know, the Biden Harris administration has been 186 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 9: the most anti mining administration in the history of this country, 187 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 9: and we're seeing it. Look at what China did they stop? 188 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 9: They stop selling us their antimony. That antimony is used 189 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 9: for semi chip conductor production and use in our military 190 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 9: explosive ordinances. And and we have antimony in our country. 191 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 9: We just have to have the willingness to mine it. 192 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 9: So you're going to see a Trump administration that's going 193 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 9: to put uh going to make America energy dependent in 194 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 9: a mineral powerhouse, a critical mineral powerhouse, a mining powerhouse. 195 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 9: We have we have opportunities not only in northeastn Minnesota, 196 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 9: we have opportunities in North Dakota, South Dakota, the Great 197 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 9: State of Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, Colorado, Pennsylvania, and 198 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 9: the list continues. 199 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: To go on and on. 200 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 9: You're going to see a renaissance in mining and there's 201 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 9: going to be a change of mindset by the American people. 202 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 9: You know, if it's not grown or if it's not mine, 203 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 9: it doesn't exist. And our really well respected senator from Minnesota, 204 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 9: Senator David Tomasoti, always use that before he passed, and 205 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 9: so I use it here on the hill. If it's 206 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 9: not mine or grown, it doesn't exist. And we have 207 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 9: the biggest untapped copper nickel find in the world in 208 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 9: northeast Minnesota called it's in the Ghluoth Complex and the 209 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 9: Biden administration basically has shut down in band mining and 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 9: that's going to be reversed. 211 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: That's exciting, big news, sir. 212 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 5: There are states like your home state of Minnesota and 213 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: others across this country that when energy supplies are sparse, 214 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: especially during the wintertime, that can really really hurt your 215 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 5: thoughts on Russia announcing that they are going to be 216 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 5: limiting the exports to our country of enriched uranium. I 217 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 5: know that some of the deliveries have already taken place, 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: and they are already set for much of this winter. 219 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 5: But are you concerned that is going to dampen the 220 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: imports and dampen the ability to deliver energy to people 221 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 5: like in your state of Minnesota. 222 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 9: Well absolutely, I mean, we give you example, the state 223 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 9: of Arkansas. Fifty percent of their energy is nuclear and 224 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 9: they purchased one hundred percent of the uranium from Russia. 225 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 9: It's simply unacceptable. You know, it was lack next year, 226 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 9: a year and a half away, actually that I asked 227 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 9: the under Secretary of Energy and the Department of Defense. 228 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 9: I said, what happens if the communist country of China 229 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 9: or other adversarial nations stop selling us to critical minerals? 230 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 9: They said, it would be devastating and dangerous for our country. 231 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 9: Here we are because of the Biden administration. Our country 232 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 9: is behind the eight ball. We've got to catch up. 233 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 9: You know. We have to have permitting reform which will 234 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 9: allow us to not only mine, but process and manufacture 235 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 9: right here in the United States. The Biden administration has 236 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 9: been devastating to the security, the national security of this country, 237 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 9: and we don't have time to waste and I look 238 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 9: forward to the one hundred and nineteenth Congress to change 239 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 9: the direction putting America first, sir. 240 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: One of the other things, I know you've been keeping 241 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: an eye in your own state because a lot of 242 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: Democrats there is election integrity. You can tell us a 243 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: little bit about things that you've seen in your state 244 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 2: that make you a little uncomfortable. 245 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 9: Well, first off, I mean, we need to have free 246 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 9: and fair elections, elections that the citizens can agree with 247 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 9: and will accept them. And right now there's been some 248 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 9: discrepancies in the state of Minnesota. I'm leading a letter 249 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 9: in our delegation to ask our Secretary of State to 250 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 9: look into some of these irregularities that happened during the election. Again, 251 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 9: we want free and fair elections, and we want every 252 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 9: legal vote to count right and every illegal vote not 253 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 9: to count. And we can do that by you know, 254 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 9: putting forth, for instance, identification to vote. You know, I'm 255 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 9: you know, citizenship to vote in federal elections. And I 256 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 9: think that's where the Republicans are looking in the one 257 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 9: hundred nineteenth Congress to put forward those real, real simple 258 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 9: recommendations and legislation that will allow our election results to 259 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 9: be really accepted. By all Americans, so very important. 260 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 5: I love this conversation with election integrity and election security, 261 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 5: national security. I want to ask you quickly before we 262 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 5: let you go, with respective energy security and how that 263 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 5: can impact food prices down the road for the American citizens. 264 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 5: A lot of people don't draw that line, but I 265 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 5: know that you can do that very well for us. 266 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 9: Well, absolutely, it's real simple. I mean, if you stop, 267 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 9: you know, oil exploration and oil production, what's going to 268 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 9: happen is your diesel and gas prices are going to 269 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 9: go up, which is going to cost the food prices 270 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 9: are going to go up. The truckers are not going 271 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 9: to the trucking companies aren't going to eat that. They're 272 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 9: going to pass it on to who we the consumer, 273 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 9: And it just falls down to the American people. And 274 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 9: we're seeing that. It is devastation. It's devastating. And on 275 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 9: the campaign trail, we talked about that we are going 276 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 9: to make energy affordable reliable for the American people, and 277 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 9: they voted for us because we told them we're going 278 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 9: to do that. Now we have to deliver, and I 279 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 9: believe with all certainty we're going to deliver that energy independence, 280 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 9: that affordability, for the middle class and the lower class 281 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 9: so they can live the American dream. And that's our goal. 282 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 9: And that's the opportunity and again responsibility that I think 283 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 9: we have. 284 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: So do we think we'll get some refiner reason the 285 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: next four years too, because I know that's a big concern, 286 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: our ability to refine gas and oil. 287 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: Do you think that's possible? 288 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 9: Yes, it is, John, I mean, we don't have the 289 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 9: refining capacity ran out to beat our needs. And again 290 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 9: we talk about permitting and processing and refining. That's absolutely 291 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 9: part of it. And again we have the opportunity. We 292 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 9: have the natural resources, John, and a manna to harness 293 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 9: the energy in the oil and gas and the minerals 294 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 9: right under our feet here in the United States of America. 295 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 9: And when we have the political will, and we will 296 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 9: under the Trump administration, we can do all those things 297 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 9: that we told the American people that we would do. 298 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: It's a big moment. 299 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: I think next Thanksgivin, We're going to have a lot 300 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: more to be thankful for. So we are thankful for 301 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: all the time you spend with us over the course, 302 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: and you're making us smarter here on this new show. 303 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: And we want to wish you and your family. A 304 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: happy Thanksgi, thanks for joining us, sir. All right, folks 305 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: will take a quick commercial break, will be right back 306 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: after these messages. 307 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to America. 308 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: You just heard Congressman stobb Er say how the role 309 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: that energy and mining and gas exploration are going to 310 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: play in the Trump economy, the Trump two point zero experience. 311 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: Getting energy fixed has a downstream impact on everything else 312 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: in the country. But one of the things is more 313 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: energy production and more energy demand goes up. Is a 314 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: creaky grad, and we do have an old creaky grad. 315 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: Let's be honest about it. It's taking a lot of 316 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: time to get it up to date. Is going to 317 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: need to be fixed. Our next guest is one of 318 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: the true innovators in this space. Grids that used to 319 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: take ten years to get built, heat builds now in 320 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: nine days, joining us from the great company Voltagrid. It's 321 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: president and CEO, Nathan. Great to have you back on 322 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: the show. 323 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, John and Amanda. It's much a pleasure. 324 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: You lit it up the last time you're here. 325 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: I think people were so surprised to find that Wait 326 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: a second, you can build a grid in a few months, 327 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: and you can get through the regulatory process quickly remind 328 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: people why these more portable, modular grids are so important 329 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: in the era that we're in right now. 330 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 10: Well, I think if you think about all of the 331 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 10: electrification movement in the US and whether that's onshoring manufacturing 332 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 10: or a lot of the data center demand that's growing 333 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 10: across multiple states across the US, or you look at 334 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 10: the ev transition and the burden that that's putting on 335 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 10: the grid, ultimately you're seeing the largest power draw increases 336 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 10: that the US is seen in decades being applied to 337 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 10: the grid, and in which the speed of which it's 338 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 10: being applied as well is ultimately putting a strain on 339 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 10: the grid that just can't be fulfilled in conventional manner, 340 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 10: whether that's grid build out or. 341 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: Of grid and grid enhancement programs. 342 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 10: And so I think we're entering a phase where it's 343 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 10: truly exciting, but paired with a big challenge ahead when 344 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 10: we think about grid stability and demand demand response. 345 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 5: Nathan, I love to visualize these things, and I think 346 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 5: when the American people think about the electrical grid, it's 347 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: kind of this nebulous, vague idea of what it even 348 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: looks like when you guys had this rapid production and 349 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 5: deployment of these grids. 350 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: What does it look like? 351 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: What all is involved? 352 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 10: You know, as we think about our kind of modular 353 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 10: grids that we designed built across the US, you know, 354 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 10: the smallest size setups would be like a city of 355 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 10: kind of twenty to thirty thousand people something that example 356 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 10: we're doing in Homa, Louisiana for a grid reinforcement program 357 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 10: for hurricane response. What's happened over the last ultimately nine 358 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 10: to twelve months is we've seen the draw from the 359 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 10: data center industry growing our installation installations up to two 360 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 10: to three four hundred megwatts at a time, which, to 361 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 10: give you a marker, is a small city. And we're 362 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 10: doing that development in anywhere from nine to twelve months, 363 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 10: standing up that entire grid, and so it's truly remarkable 364 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 10: that conventional program would take years and years, you know, 365 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 10: almost north of five to ten years, and we're doing 366 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 10: it in months now, no longer years. So it is 367 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 10: truly remarkable, and it's really an innovation that's been baked 368 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 10: here in the US. 369 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been baked in your company. I mean, what 370 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: you've done is so remarkable. I want to talk a 371 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: little bit about the national security component of the grid, 372 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: and we always talk about their vulnerabilities. 373 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Of course we know that. 374 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: But in order to stay up with China in the 375 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence race it's going to dominate the next generation 376 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: of this world, we got to produce power at levels 377 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: we can't even begin to imagine. 378 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: China is a little bit ahead of us on that. 379 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: How do these micro grids and what you're doing help 380 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: us catch up quicker so that we stay on pair 381 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: with one of our great rivals. 382 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 10: Are Like, if we think about the US competitive advantage, 383 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 10: we think about winning the race against the AI race 384 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 10: against China, there's really one critical input that is going 385 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 10: to solve that, and and that's power. You know, you 386 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 10: think about your your AI chips. You know they run 387 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 10: on electricity. You know, ensuring manufacturing runs on electricity. EV's 388 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 10: run on electricity. So there truly is one fundamental component 389 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 10: that it has to go into the equation UH for 390 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 10: to win the race against China, And and that's building 391 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 10: resilient grid. That's building out the capacity, that's building out 392 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 10: the ability to generate locally when you have transmission distribution problems, 393 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 10: and and that's it you know, a focused government on 394 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 10: driving innovation and driving generation, uh will be the number 395 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 10: one key to winning the race uh right across America. 396 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nathan. 397 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: When you have a great technology like your company does, 398 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: it's also very helpful when you have a business climate 399 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 5: that is conducive to success. 400 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: What is it like for you? 401 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: What has it been the last four years as a 402 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 5: business owner under the Biden administration? And what do you 403 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 5: hope is going to change with President Trump at the top, 404 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 5: and how that can maybe alleviate some of the regulations 405 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 5: and some of the red tape you have to cut through. 406 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 5: Do you anticipate it's going to get better? 407 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 408 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 10: Look, you know, well when we started the company four 409 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 10: years ago, we truly did start it out of our garage. 410 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 10: And I think of how we've morphed and grown over 411 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 10: the last three years in a government situation that you know, 412 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 10: likely wasn't as friendly to fossil fuel development or you know, 413 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 10: clean natural gas power plant development. As I think about 414 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 10: the next foward, you know, looking years, I don't think 415 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 10: we could be in a better position or a better place. 416 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: You know. 417 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 10: Ultimately, volte Grade is probably one of the largest power 418 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 10: providers to the oil and gas industry to reduce emissions 419 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 10: in the American shale industry. You know, you're pairing that 420 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 10: innovation and that success story to enable the American AI 421 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 10: data center industry to go faster and harder to win 422 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 10: the race against China. I think you really can't fundamentally 423 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 10: take two better industries in the US, which is the 424 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 10: American shale industry coupled with American data center industry to 425 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 10: be the ultimate winner and to succeed as a as 426 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 10: a country. So you know, I'm super excited about the 427 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 10: next four years. I think we're going to have a fantastic, 428 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 10: very supportive government that's going to line us up to 429 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 10: make great capital investments and really prosper as a country 430 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 10: and as a team. 431 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: I've been making this prediction for a while, and a 432 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: man and I talk about this a lot, and I've 433 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: even talked about it with President Trump, because I actually 434 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: think that the Trump Administration's approach to energy is actually 435 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: going to lower emissions and be more environmentally friendly than 436 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: all the experiments of the twins and dollars spent thus 437 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: far to do it with a smart grid like what 438 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: volta good builds with natural gas and now maybe some 439 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: more nuclear coming online, power generation go up, and carbon 440 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: emissions can go down, and it can be seamless. Right, 441 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be a twenty five year transition. 442 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: That's absolutely correct. 443 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 10: And as you think about what we've already achieved by 444 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 10: electrifying the oil and gas industry, and if I go 445 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 10: into some of the drillian completions work that we've done, 446 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 10: you know, as we just do a simple conversion from 447 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 10: a diesel based elect track operation to one of our 448 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 10: many electric track operations that we have running, you know, 449 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 10: we're reducing emissions anywhere from thirty to forty percent on 450 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 10: that operation and reducing costs, increasing competitive nature, and increasing safety. 451 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 10: So you take what we've already done in the US 452 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 10: shale industry and you apply that to AI, to data centers, 453 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 10: to the mining industry across the US. 454 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: Like, it's a win for all. 455 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 10: It's a win for the economy, it's a you know, 456 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 10: because we manufacture locally here in the US. It's a 457 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 10: win for our employees, it's a win for our vendors 458 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 10: or US vendors, and it's a win for the country. 459 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: Amazing Nathan. 460 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 5: On November fifth, when President Trump was elected, he was 461 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 5: elected for many reasons, But I think his energy policies 462 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 5: are something that really stood out to a lot of people, 463 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 5: especially when you contrast it with the ridiculousness of green 464 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: energy and putting the cart before the horse and all 465 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 5: of those destructive policies to our own energy economy with 466 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 5: respect to emissions. When it comes to the green lobby, 467 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 5: the clean energy lobby, the climate change lobby, I would 468 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 5: like to think that with that mandate delivered on November fifth, 469 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: that they would kind of like duck back into the shadows. 470 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 5: I don't think that's the case, though. How are they 471 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 5: going to pivot, especially in light of amazing technology like 472 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 5: yours that does actually reduce emissions. 473 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 474 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 10: Look, I ultimately think the world really needs to stop 475 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 10: thinking about energy transition and start thinking more about energy addition. 476 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 10: You know, ultimately, there's never been a point in time 477 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 10: in human history where we've consumed less energy tomorrow as 478 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 10: we did the prior day. And so there's a role 479 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 10: for solar, there's a world for wind, for SMRs, for nuclear, 480 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 10: for fossil fuels, and ultimately I think everything will play 481 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 10: a part and component. But my belief is that you know, 482 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 10: each each energy input into the equation has to stand 483 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 10: on its own two economic legs, because we're no longer 484 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 10: an environment where where the federal government can afford to 485 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 10: subsidize capitally inefficient energy sources, and so the best solution 486 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 10: that's best for the country, that's made in the country, 487 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 10: that benefits the country in itself, should win. And I 488 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 10: think we've entered a time where that the Trump administration 489 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 10: is going to support kind of an all of the 490 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 10: above energy solution right across the board. 491 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: One of the things I hear a lot, Nathan, when 492 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm up on Capitol Hill and even when I'm in 493 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: the Trump transition team talking to people regulatory reform, NEPA reform, 494 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: things that were meant to be good for the environment 495 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: but have slowed down actually environmentally friendly projects. 496 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: Do you think this is. 497 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: A moment where some really good regulatory reform can still 498 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: protect the country but get things sped up a lot, 499 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: a lot faster. 500 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: I absolutely agree. 501 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 10: I think I think we're entering a period where enhanced 502 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 10: government efficiency, with a good capital structure, lower regulations will 503 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 10: ultimately achieve what we need to achieve as as a 504 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 10: as a as a as a country, and as a 505 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 10: group of citizens. And so you know, I am very 506 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 10: optimistic for the next next next four years, And I 507 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 10: think you've seen a lot of this play out in 508 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 10: the in the U S. Shail industry, where you know, 509 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 10: we've done a fantastic job at reducing emissions, you know, 510 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 10: but we're not being compensated for that reduction. We're doing 511 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 10: it because it is the best solution that's in the market, 512 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 10: and capitalism in an efficient system. 513 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 3: Is driving that change. 514 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 10: And my hope is we will see that going forward 515 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 10: and really to the health of the economy. 516 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: Pretty amazing for folks who are excited to learn about 517 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were blown away the 518 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: last time you came on just what. 519 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: You're actually doing. 520 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: What's the best way for people to get information on 521 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: what you're doing at Faltegrid. 522 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we do a great job of keeping 523 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 10: our website up to date. Our LinkedIn is very active 524 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 10: and always looking to feel free to reach out and 525 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 10: always looking forward to discuss the story and tell a 526 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 10: story more. 527 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty exciting. Well, we sure appreciate the time 528 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: you spent with us, Nathan. This is a really innovative 529 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: moment in the history and you're playing you're on the 530 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: front and edges of that. I think it's really exciting. 531 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 2: We'll get you back on after the first year to 532 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: keep up on things. All right, We're gonna take a 533 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: quick commercial break when we come back to President of 534 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: the US A Gas Association. One of our good friends, 535 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: Tim Stewart's going to be here. We got a lot 536 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: to talk about. Drill, Baby, drill, everybody's saying it now. 537 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that right. 538 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: After these messages. 539 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 5: Welcome back to just the news, no noise. We're going 540 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 5: to stay on topic and stay in our deep dive 541 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: into American energy policy, especially now the President Trump is 542 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 5: going to be back in the Oval office. So how 543 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 5: is this administration going to unlock America's energy potential? Joining 544 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 5: us now to discuss that as the President of the 545 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: US Oil and Gas Association, Tim sewartt our, great friend, 546 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 5: thanks for coming back. 547 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: Great to be with you guys. Thanks for doing this. 548 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 5: Bobby, thank you and Tim. You know, when I think 549 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 5: back on the conversations we've had with you the last 550 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: two years, everything has been within the context of if 551 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: President Trump wins the White House again, if President Trump 552 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 5: is back in control of policy on day one, when 553 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 5: President Trump is inaugurated and He's got a stack of 554 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 5: executive orders ready to sign what are going to be 555 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 5: some of the most exciting ones you're looking forward to 556 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 5: for energy. 557 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 11: You know, that's a great thing for us to be 558 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 11: looking forward to. It's something we've waited for for a 559 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 11: long time. 560 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: You know. 561 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 11: The president can control one particular aspect of how energy 562 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 11: is producing the United States as it relates to oil 563 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 11: and gas industry, and that is, how do you how 564 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 11: do you produce a nery? How do you produce oil 565 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 11: and gas off of the federal lands and waters? The 566 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 11: President himself can control what happens on twenty five percent 567 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 11: of almost all of the federal or all of the 568 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 11: US oil and gas assets. And the thing that President 569 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 11: Trump can do on day one is he can breathe 570 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 11: new life. He can put the paddles on the federal 571 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 11: leasing program and shock that system and start leasing again, 572 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 11: which is something the industry desperately needs. When you take 573 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 11: twenty five percent of the energy assets off the table, 574 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 11: like the Biden administration has, it puts a real challenge 575 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 11: and a real pressure on an industry to produce elsewhere 576 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 11: front on private or state lands. You've got to have 577 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 11: that federal component either on shore or offshore, and that's 578 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 11: what we're really excited for. And the great thing is 579 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 11: he can do that almost immediately. We should have robust 580 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 11: lease sales in the first quarter, which is unheard of, 581 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 11: and that's something we're really excited for. 582 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and after a year where we had no leases 583 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: at all, it's just remarkable, and at least in the 584 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: coastal areas. Tim, I want to ask a little bit 585 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: about the team that President Trump is assembly. It doesn't 586 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: feel like your traditional cap There are a lot of 587 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: innovators in this group. There's going to be some thinking 588 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: that normy doesn't come out of government, that comes out 589 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: of government, that the next administration right exactly. 590 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 11: You know, I've been saying people they've been asking what's 591 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 11: it going to be like, and I say, you're not 592 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 11: going to see a Republican administration. You're going to see 593 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 11: a disruptor administration. The people that are populating the decision 594 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 11: making and sort of where the power chart is versus 595 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 11: the organization chart. These are people who have done it 596 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 11: in their past careers, who have gone in and broken 597 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 11: the existing model that was just was calcified and turn 598 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 11: it into something robust. And that's something that we are 599 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 11: really excited to watch happen because it can be done, 600 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 11: and it needs to be done. You know the federal 601 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 11: leasing program. How my company is go and get an 602 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 11: application for a permit to drill. It shouldn't take three 603 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 11: hundred days. Literally, if you were to put in some 604 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 11: permit reform and a permit by rule component where if 605 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 11: you are if you meet the rules, then you can 606 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 11: get the permit and then you level AI on top 607 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 11: of that, there's any the reason why you can get 608 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 11: permits that are turned around in a matter of thirty 609 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 11: six hours instead of three hundred and sixty days. It 610 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 11: can be done, and frankly, we've got to do it 611 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 11: if we want to keep competitive with the rest of 612 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 11: the world in producing energy. 613 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 5: Tim President Trump's pick for Energy Secretary, Chris Wright. I 614 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 5: think he is right in line with what you were saying. 615 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: An innovator, possibly a disruptor, CEO of Liberty Energy, which 616 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 5: tells you a little bit something about how he feels 617 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 5: about energy production here in the US. 618 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: Your thoughts on that pick. 619 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 11: So Chris is a fantastic pick for this reason. He 620 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 11: understands the nuclear industry very very well. Hits on the 621 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 11: boards of small companies that are trying to produce small 622 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 11: modular reactors. He understands the critical mineral supply chain very well, 623 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 11: and in his spare time he actually happened to innovate 624 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 11: the way we do hydraulic fracturing in the United States, 625 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 11: and frankly, it was his innovations and his insight and 626 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 11: inspiration which revolutionized the shale revolution even further. This is 627 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 11: exactly what you want in a Secretary of Energy, somebody 628 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 11: who understands that we need to be producing more of everything, 629 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 11: and he's in a great position to do that. We're 630 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 11: really excited. 631 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: When you look at what Doug Burgham's going to be 632 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: as sort of the national energies are alongside of his 633 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: role at the Interior Department. There's going to be these 634 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: broad precepts that sort of guide all the downstream and 635 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: they sound an awful lot like something you came on 636 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: this show a few months ago talking about the energy 637 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: contract with America. Seems to be endemic in the approach 638 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: that Burgham and others are already talking about being the 639 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: main policy more of everything, you can do it, more cleanly, 640 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: we can do it, and we're going to lower prices 641 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: so that there's no more poverty. 642 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: That was your contract, wasn't it. 643 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 11: Yeah, But again I like to take credit for it, John, 644 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 11: But it's just common sense, isn't it. You and I 645 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 11: talked about this, guys, We've talked about this for months now. 646 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 11: Is that Americans want energy. They want all different types 647 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 11: of energy, but they also want it to be affordable 648 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 11: and dependable more than anything, and they want to make 649 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 11: their own choices. They want to be able to choose 650 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 11: if they cook with electric or gas, for example. And 651 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 11: the fact of the matter is is the United States 652 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 11: is the world's energy superpower. 653 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: We are. 654 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 11: We produce more oil and gas than any anyone else 655 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 11: in the world. We're second coal and geothermal and renewable. 656 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 11: We can do it all. But the fact is is 657 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 11: we've got to be able to give industry the choice 658 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 11: and consumers the choice as well. I think the government's 659 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 11: going to be great about that. Where his position as 660 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 11: energies are, given his background in business what he did, 661 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 11: he can come in and again really sort of shake 662 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 11: the scales off calcified permitting process that it's not just 663 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 11: royal and gas but for everybody. 664 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 5: That's a great point, you know, Tim, I think on 665 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 5: election night, there were a number of pretty much all 666 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 5: of them actually, probably dealership owners across this country that 667 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: breathe a sigh of relief. One of those lesser known 668 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 5: things that I think President Trump is going to do 669 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 5: with respective energy, but something that I think is vitally 670 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 5: important is stripping away that ridiculous EV mandate. How important 671 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 5: is that do you think? 672 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 11: Well, Look, if I'm a CEO of an automaker, I'm 673 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 11: breathe in a sigh of relief because honestly, losing seventy 674 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 11: thousand dollars per EV that I'm trying to sell is 675 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 11: not a not a sustainable business model, is it. I 676 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 11: think what the president President elect Trump has done is 677 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 11: he's given them a graceful exit ramp. He's lifted the 678 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 11: onerous EV sale mandate, and he's uh given given the 679 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 11: the the auto industry the option to innovate somewhere else, 680 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 11: and that's probably going to be in hybrid technology more 681 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 11: than anything, which is exactly what I think we all want. 682 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 11: Having the talk of the the EV seventy five hundred 683 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 11: dollars EV credit's important too, because that's about the only 684 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 11: thing that the Biden administration could hang its hat on. 685 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 11: Telling consumers that you have to buy something, but in 686 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 11: doing so, we'll save you seventy five hundred dollars in 687 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 11: buying something you don't really want. I think the automakers 688 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 11: are going, Okay, let's let let's let us let's do 689 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 11: what we do best. 690 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: Let's sell cars. 691 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 11: Let's let the consumer decide what type of car they 692 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 11: want to buy. And again, I think this is part 693 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 11: of that that disruptive thing, that's disruptive nature of policy. 694 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 11: We're all going to benefit from it. 695 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, if you do a hybrid, 696 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: you're still bringing down carbon emissions. I get forty two 697 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: miles a gallon on a pickup truck. 698 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: That's a hybrid. I've been a big hybrid fan. 699 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: It's so much cheaper, quicker, and faster, and you never 700 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: have to worry where you're going to plug in next. 701 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: It's just so simple. I want to ask this real quickly. 702 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: The regulatory schema. I've heard the word NEAPPA more in 703 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: the last two weeks, and I've heard maybe in the 704 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: last forty years since the Nixon administration went away. My 705 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: National Environmental Protection Act. It was created with good intentions, 706 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: but it's become an Albumtross even the clean energy right. 707 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really has been. 708 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 11: You know, when NEPA was first to pass by Congress, 709 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 11: it was a two page document. 710 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 9: Is a two page bill. 711 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 11: And the unfortunate thing happens if you look back on history, 712 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 11: is the courts actually began to dictate the terms of 713 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 11: NEPA before Congress and the regulatory agencies could, and that's 714 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 11: how we had layer upon layer upon layered decision which 715 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 11: really has sort of just frozen everything in place. There 716 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 11: are a lot of things that really could be exempted categorically, 717 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 11: but the federal agencies, who are so litigation averse, are 718 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 11: so reticent to actually use categorical exclusions for anything as 719 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 11: simple as as repairing a trail in a national park 720 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 11: versus giving one of my guys an oil and gas permit. 721 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 11: That NEPA reform is crucial. That permit reform that the 722 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 11: Senate bill is still working on, I think is crucial 723 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 11: as well. I think Americans going to learn over this 724 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 11: next two or three years that NIPA can actually function 725 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 11: and function well. It can actually preserve the critical components 726 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 11: in the environment, but also can allow for development, economic development, 727 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 11: and particularly I think honestly this administration. John is going 728 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 11: to get us back to the original, the original intent 729 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 11: of NEPA that was passed forty years ago. 730 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big win. 731 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: And some of the chairmen that have been on have 732 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: been saying some of this work might get stuck in 733 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: the reconciliation bill in December, so that the Trump administration 734 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: has a running start. Will be interesting to see if 735 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: they can pull that off with all the other things 736 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 2: that go into a bignest that's needed. 737 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 11: Sorry, that's needed because frankly, if you had that permit 738 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 11: bill done and done now, it means the administration has 739 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 11: got a clear path going forward to. 740 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: Do the other Canny on Jason Smith racing East Grum 741 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 2: and I have a funny feeling he's going to get 742 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: some of that done before the first. 743 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: Of the year. Tim, It's always great to have you on, folks. 744 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: The Energy Contract with America is as relevant as it's 745 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: ever been. It's not only going to be the doctrine 746 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: for President Trump, for any smart state in community. Go 747 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: to Energycontract America dot Com. Energy Contract America dot Com. 748 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: Go download it, talk to your local leaders, make sure 749 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: they know about it. Three simple ideas that have big, 750 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: profound consequences. 751 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: For the country. It's a good thing for you to 752 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: go do. 753 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna take a qui commercial break. Let 754 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: me come back a little more discussion before we quit 755 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: for the day. 756 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: We'll be read back. 757 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 5: Welcome back to just the news, no noise. In the 758 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 5: United States just got finished holding their annual vacation i 759 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 5: mean Climate Change Summit COP twenty nine. It was in 760 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 5: Azerbaijan this year, and quite a lot was discussed, especially 761 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: after the re election and President Trump. Many climate alarmists 762 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 5: there were very worried about what a new Trump administration 763 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 5: might do and joining us. 764 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 6: To talk about this. 765 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 5: As someone who was at that conference, Climate Depot publisher 766 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 5: and former senior staff at the US Senate Environment and 767 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 5: Public Works Committee, Mark Morano, Mark, thanks so much for 768 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 5: being here. 769 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 4: Thank you, happy to be here. 770 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 5: All right, tell us how it went, because John and 771 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 5: I obviously were in Washington a few days after the 772 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 5: election and we saw some pretty dire moods. How was 773 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 5: the mood over at COP twenty nine. 774 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, you've said vacation. At the first part. 775 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 6: They picked the most out of the way high carbon 776 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 6: footprint location for these un climate summers. Last year was Dubai, 777 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 6: Egypt was the year before then it was Scotland, then 778 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 6: it was Madrid. It's been in South America, it's been 779 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 6: in Kenya, It's been. 780 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 4: I mean all over the globe. 781 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 6: I worked in the US Senate Environment Public Works Committee 782 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 6: and the State Department as a Senate staffer. 783 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 4: When we go to these conferences, the one that. 784 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 6: Was in Bali, Indonesia, it was like a seventeen thousand 785 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 6: dollar undred sixteen thousand dollars round trip business class with 786 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 6: a bed that laid down. You know why people like 787 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 6: to go to these and that's exactly what's happened. These 788 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 6: are exotic parties held around the world. This meeting going 789 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 6: into it was billed as money, money, money. It was 790 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 6: all about the UN Climate slush Fund. Right now, the countries, 791 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 6: including the United States, have pledged one hundred billion dollars 792 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 6: a year and as we speak, they're trying to negotiate 793 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 6: the new number. But the UN is talking one trillion 794 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 6: a year to two trillion a year trying to get 795 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 6: that money up. And the idea is this climate slush fund, 796 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 6: which is what this whole conference was about, was to 797 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 6: pay poor nations in Africa, South America not to develop 798 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 6: if you could keep your citizens locked in poverty. The 799 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 6: leaders get a lot of money to keep you locked 800 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 6: in poverty, and then you get to be I'm very 801 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 6: strongly nut zero as your country stays in poverty. That's 802 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 6: how perverse this whole un agenda was and is going on. 803 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: It's still in the final hours now at Baku. 804 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: Is an amazing way of just looking at it and 805 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: pointing out the insanity of it all. There's an extraordinary 806 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot of dire predictions about President Trump. I 807 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 2: saw John Podesta this thing. I saw Jenny Grenholme talk 808 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 2: about it. But I think at the end of the day, 809 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 2: there's an irony about to happen. I suspect as President 810 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: Trump accelerates energy development and we do more nuclear natural 811 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: gas here, he's actually going to probably hit better carbon 812 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: targets than all the money and the trillions that the 813 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: Democrats did while expanding energy and make it cheaper. Is 814 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 2: that just when you look at that nuclear natural gas merger, 815 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: even though he doesn't need to do carbon reductions, He's 816 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: probably gonna achieve some, isn't he He is? 817 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 6: Okay, this is the whole con First of all, you 818 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 6: can go back to nineteen ninety two when George H. W. 819 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 4: Bush. 820 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 6: Yes, it was a Republican president that got us into 821 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 6: this whole UN Climate summit, And look at every president 822 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 6: from Bush, Clinton and Bush again and Obama and co. 823 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 6: Two continues to go up regardless of who anyone votes for. 824 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 6: So this Gris magazine still says Trump wins, that loses. 825 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 6: That was the cover of their magazine. Great, keep that 826 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 6: for nostalgia. But you're exactly right, John. When Donald Trump 827 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 6: was president, he unleashed American energy technology. 828 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 4: And a booming economy. 829 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 6: We had the best environmental standards and the best human 830 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 6: rights record for anything compared to outsourcing all of our 831 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 6: energies from somewhere else, and we led the world in 832 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 6: reducing carbon dioxide emissions. 833 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 4: We were better than the people who stayed. 834 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 6: In the UN Paris Agreement, than the nations who stayed 835 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 6: in and we did it because natural gas through the 836 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 6: technology of fracking, replaced coal. So the US, even though 837 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 6: we were the international pariah donald Trump was the climate denier, 838 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 6: we were doing better than all the other countries. We 839 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 6: were the model in the world, which brings up the 840 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 6: final point. If we actually faced a climate emergency and 841 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 6: carbon dioxide, which we inhale through our mouth. We inhale oxygen, 842 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 6: we excel carbon dioxide. If that were truly creating a 843 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 6: climate emergency. 844 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 4: We'd all be doomed. If we fall the United. 845 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 6: Nations Net zero un paris green New Deal. Instead, what 846 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 6: we need to do is the exact opposite. Regardless of 847 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 6: what you believe on climate, if you actually unleash the 848 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 6: economic growth, technology innovation, and unleash energy, especially energy in 849 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 6: Western nations with the best technology, you will see CO 850 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 6: two emissions. There was actually an analysis out of a 851 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 6: Canadian group carbon taxes raise emissions period because all it 852 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 6: does is force the West to virtue signals, shut down 853 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 6: our energy and outsources the countries without the technology, human 854 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 6: rights records. So everything is up is down, everything is 855 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 6: down is up. The entire narrative it has to be flipped. 856 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: It's completely bonkers. 857 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: And trillions of dollars go down the toilet ball it's 858 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 2: just crazy. 859 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 9: Yep yep. 860 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 5: Speaking of trillions of dollars going down the toilet and 861 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 5: chemicals going downstream. I know that in order to achieve 862 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 5: a better energy landscape, we do have to combine a 863 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 5: bunch of different technologies. But from everything that I've learned 864 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 5: from solar and wind farms in particular, not only do 865 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 5: they produce vast quantities of toxic chemicals, but I mean 866 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 5: for a solar panel, at the end of its life, 867 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 5: we don't really even have a proper way of disposing 868 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 5: of it. How much is that going to play into 869 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 5: any type of new energy plan or do you think 870 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 5: the emphasis will really. 871 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 6: Be on nuclear? Well, I think the episodes will be 872 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 6: on unleashing fossil fuels and nuclear. Nuclear is making a renaissance. 873 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 6: I mean because of artificial intelligence, AI build gates is 874 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 6: buying up the Three Mile Island, which was the pariah 875 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 6: of the entire environmental left for decades. I always said, 876 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 6: if you're worried about global warming, plan Jane Fonda, she's 877 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 6: the one in her movie The China Syndrome, which scared 878 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 6: the world about nuclear And I think with what nuclear 879 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 6: is AI has done because now this new emphasis on 880 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 6: nuclear is it's exposed the folly of solar and wind, 881 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 6: despite all the subsidies, all the mandates, despite them banning 882 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 6: the or trying to ration and shut down the competition, 883 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 6: fossil fuels, solar and wind less than still fourteen percent 884 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 6: of our electrical grid. There's no there there all the 885 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 6: offshore wind that produces barely measurable energy. And what they've 886 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 6: done is they do a sleight of hand. They'll say like, oh, well, 887 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 6: Republican states are benefiting from renewable energy. 888 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: We're spending this. There's all this renewed capacity. None of 889 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 4: it means anything. 890 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 6: It just means the government is funding all these jobs 891 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 6: that are like FDR era government work jobs. Once they 892 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 6: cut the subsidies, all the solar wind jobs dry up 893 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 6: because per unit of energy, they don't even produce anything 894 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 6: that even's on the same chart as any fossil fuel energy. 895 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 4: And the last thing I want to say is because 896 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 4: of AI. 897 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 6: Larry Fink, the CEO of Blackrock, said last April in 898 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 6: twenty twenty four that you cannot run a global economy 899 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 6: on solar and wind. Solar and wind cannot power AI 900 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 6: energy demands because they're too intermittent and not up to 901 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 6: not up to where fossil fuels are. They were forced 902 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 6: to admit that this is a con from the beginning. 903 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 4: Even Larry Fink had to admit it. 904 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 6: Faced with this AI energy demands, which is again creating 905 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 6: a nuclear renaissance, which is where we all welcome. 906 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 3: Amazing, you know, unbelievable. 907 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 9: Mark. 908 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 5: We love having these conversations with you. We've had a 909 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 5: lot of energy conversations lately, and it's just fantastic to 910 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 5: get all of this information. 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The fact that energy production is so integral 950 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 5: to our economy, and when you have, unfortunately a failing 951 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 5: economy like we do now, people are still feeling the heat. 952 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 5: We're paying twenty three percent more for turkeys than we 953 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 5: were October of twenty twenty when President Trump was in office. 954 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 5: People are feeling the heat. But if you reduce the 955 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 5: price of energy because you are producing it in our 956 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 5: homeland and you were even exporting it to other countries, 957 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 5: that affects the supply lines or the supply change, that 958 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 5: affects prices all across the board, and it benefits the 959 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 5: American people. 960 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: It does. 961 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's when Bill Richison told me twenty five 962 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: thirty years ago, it's the tipping point for every Domino 963 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 2: policy down from it. If President Trump brings energy production 964 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: back to superiority here in the United States, everything gets better. 965 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 2: Interest rates come down, inflation comes down, prices come down, 966 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: energy poverty ends for fixed income Americans like seniors are 967 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: very important. 968 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 1: Seniors. It is. It is really the secret. 969 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 2: Ingredient upon which so much of the rest of the 970 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 2: country's policies will be affected by. And that's why I 971 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 2: think President Trump is first and foremost focusing on it. 972 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: You know, there was some interesting dynamics this week with Canada. 973 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 2: The President Trump told Canada, Mexico, you know what, I'm 974 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 2: throwing twenty five percent tarists on ut guys started acting 975 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 2: better and all. Both the Mexican President and the Canadian 976 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: Prime minister called Trump, by the way, hey, we want 977 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: to be good partners. 978 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: One thing to keep an eye in. 979 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 2: With Russia now blocking its uranium supplies to America, We're 980 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 2: going to need to rely on Canada's uranium until we 981 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 2: start our own uranium industry. A lot of people today 982 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 2: talking about nuclear energy post gas equals nirvana for energy policy. 983 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 2: We have no hardly any uranium supplies of our own 984 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 2: and now with Russia cutting us off, So Canada is 985 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 2: going to be a key partner if they behave well. 986 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that is going to be a very very 987 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 5: delicate dance for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, because as we know, 988 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 5: he's you know, he is very similar to Joe Biden, 989 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 5: and that he has rushed to the far left green 990 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 5: energy wing of the Liberal Party in Canada. But he's 991 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 5: got an election coming up next year, so he's going 992 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 5: to have that. 993 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 3: That's going to be a very very. 994 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 5: Delicate dance for him. 995 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 9: Good point with respect to. 996 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 5: The energy production. You know, President Trump, this is something 997 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 5: that I think is at the heart of what he 998 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 5: cares about for the American people. When it comes to 999 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 5: the people who he has instilled. Doug Bergram I think 1000 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 5: is absolutely fantastic. But he's put a number of people 1001 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 5: there in that energy sector. What's Saint Chris right? Do 1002 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 5: you think that those people are going to work together 1003 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 5: very very well to accomplish the things that President Trump wants. 1004 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 5: I know they signed on for this, but do you 1005 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 5: think they're going to work together well? 1006 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: I do. 1007 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 2: I think you have not only three big men with 1008 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 2: big egos and big communication skills, they have a big 1009 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 2: sense of camaraderie and I think they think alike. They 1010 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 2: all share the President's vision that more of everything is 1011 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 2: going to equal a better country. And by the way, 1012 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 2: they also believe you can bring carbon emissions down. You 1013 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 2: heard that today from Tim and from Nathan. Carbon missions 1014 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 2: can come down even as you expand natural gas and nuclear, 1015 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 2: which is something that the Democrats have never achieved. So 1016 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 2: they realize that this is a historic moment. My understanding 1017 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 2: is a relationship between them is great, and I think 1018 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: this is going to be the dream team of energy policy. 1019 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 2: I think people will look back and say, twenty to 1020 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 2: fifty years of American history well have been defined by 1021 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 2: the men in this administration. 1022 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: Of the energy guys. 1023 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, well we all remember when Democrats were trying to 1024 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 5: take away our ovens. Hope you all get your ovens 1025 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 5: stuffed with turkey and all of the good things that 1026 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 5: will come tomorrow. I'm putting on my Joey Triviani pants 1027 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 5: so that I can make sure I have plenty of 1028 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 5: room to pack it in. And we hope you all 1029 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 5: have a wonderful, wonderful Thanksgiving. 1030 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,240 Speaker 3: John, Happy early. 1031 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to you as well. 1032 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 3: Here we are going to be 1033 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 5: Back here tomorrow, absolutely absolutely, and we will be back 1034 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 5: here tomorrow at six pm Eastern, right here on Real 1035 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 5: America's play