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Speaker 1: Phoenix going to drag drag? Was he drugged me that

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Speaker 1: And I was like coming into the game, I know

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Speaker 1: So I kind of was was sleeping on how good

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Speaker 3: It was doing on the lefty hard making if that

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Speaker 3: was just like crafty.

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Speaker 1: He shooting me, he pulling up, getting fouled, and I

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Speaker 1: was just like, damn, just playing the game. I was

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Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting to like, yeah, everybody. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't expecting it to go like that, but he

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Speaker 3: Yo, coming to you live and direct. We're from New Orleans, y'all.

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Speaker 3: We down here and buy you the blackest one always

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Speaker 1: We chose to go to Notre Dame High School, same

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Speaker 2: You went there and then you transferred. What made you

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Speaker 1: Well, I went to a different high school ninth grade,

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Speaker 1: and then I went there because I was like Jkid

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Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't my sophomore year. That was my

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Speaker 2: So you're playing JV and just dressing for for us.

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Speaker 1: just wasn't playing like zero, Wow, So you transferred to

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Speaker 1: get the opportunity. What school you transferred to? Oakland High

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Speaker 1: And when I got there, it was like neighborhood, it

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Speaker 1: It really helped because all my friends had four point zhers.

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Speaker 1: That this is what they do to the school where

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Speaker 1: And private school is like, well don't do this and

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Speaker 1: So that whole summer like AU, I was killing. I

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Speaker 1: You say, Drew Pop, Drew Pops be with my dad, right, So,

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Speaker 1: all the sprints. After that it was over, they was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: He called me like, man, you crazy, and I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: So when you when you get picked by Portland at six,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't mad at it because the league I played in,

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Speaker 3: What made you choose number zero?

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Speaker 2: That's why they call it the letter. Oh that's do.

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Speaker 1: You get to Portland and Brandon Roy and LaMarcus just

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw him the ball every time, and when

439
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm open, I'm not gonna miss Yeah. And that's how

440
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 1: it started. I was like, I'm gonna make the right

441
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 1: place and I'm just not going back down like I'm

442
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna be here for whatever, whatever I gotta be here

443
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: for and try to win some games. We can the

444
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: little markets, y'all click quick as him of the player,

445
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: because I know he eventually left and chose to go

446
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: somewhere else. As him as a player, let's peak on

447
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 1: little Marcus because when I got there, he got drafted.

448
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: When I was there, and he had everything, he just

449
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: didn't have the toughness. And then he got tough, he

450
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: got stronger, he got you know, more competitive. What did

451
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: you see in Latle Marcus when you got the see

452
00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 1: I never I never knew them. It's not tough. So

453
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: like the markers, you knew him as it's different than

454
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: what I did. Because when I got there, I was like, man,

455
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: this motherfucking me tough, Like.

456
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 2: He don't take nothing from nobody.

457
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: Like he's the best player I had ever played with

458
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 1: like that, been up close to like that, because I

459
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: was like, he don't miss no fade aways, every pick.

460
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: Of come off. When I pass on the ball, he

461
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 2: make it every time.

462
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Like he stripped every big man that's trying to do them,

463
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: or he stripped everything, got great hands. He ain't like

464
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: running his mouth. He's just quiet. It was like I

465
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: had never seen nothing like it. So, like I said,

466
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: I was just excited to be the point guard they

467
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: got to play with him. I was like, me and

468
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: him gonna play together. I'm gonna keep getting better so

469
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: I can match him and we're gonna win it. Yeah,

470
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. You and LaMarcus had so much success,

471
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: and then he decided to lead. What was that moment

472
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 1: of time for you? Because I know you looking at

473
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: it like, hey, we just need a few more pieces and.

474
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: Right, were good, you know what I'm saying.

475
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: Then you look back at it now and just what

476
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: he's going through in San Antonio. I feel like he

477
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: never got what he really wanted out of San Antonio.

478
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's when I look back on it, I

479
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: just be like, damn, because my whole thing was I

480
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: was always trying to like just keep getting better, like

481
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: I said, so I can just match him. Yeah, because

482
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: if me and him would have stayed teammates and I

483
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: can get to the level that I'm at now, I'm like, okay,

484
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: we could. We could have for sure got one and

485
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: then maybe we don't lose patuone and we don't lose West,

486
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: and we got CJ. We had a little Barton Alan

487
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: Krabb we had like we had it. Yeah, we had

488
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: it to do it. We just needed to just couple

489
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: stay together. And in San Antonio, He's been to the

490
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals and I've been to the Western Conference Finals,

491
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: but we both came up short. So it's like that

492
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: just show you that, like you need other guys, like

493
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: you need somebody else that can carry it, Like he

494
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: could have carried us, you know, the team that we had,

495
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: and when it came down to it, if he wasn't

496
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: having a night, they wasn't gonna stop both of us

497
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: on the.

498
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: Same night or in the same series. As I was killing.

499
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, our first, our very first playoff against Houston. In

500
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: game one, he had like forty six and eighteen.

501
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: Out this serious, he was crazy.

502
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: He was killing forty six and eighteen and he fouled

503
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: out of Game one at Houston. And this is my

504
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: first playoff game and I ended up with like thirty

505
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: and seven and something. I finished the game off. So

506
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: it's like we could have had a lot of those

507
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: situations where it's like when you go down or when

508
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: you step out, I'll take it over because like when

509
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: you got that That's that's what you see going on

510
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, you were saying that you wanted to

511
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: get to the level that he was. Now you gotta

512
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: ce J. You got a chance to watch him get

513
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: up to the level to compete with you and be

514
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: out there where you can. I don't care if you

515
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: don't depend on nobody else. I got this one souldier

516
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: that I know. It's gonna ride with me. Just he

517
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: CJ is development of his game because he got like

518
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: a he got one of those old school games that

519
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: he just he want everything good, He's everything, do everything,

520
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: so he just he's just nice a lot of game.

521
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: So CJ getting better and watching him develop. What you

522
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: think about where CJ is right now, and that's he

523
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: I seue to get better.

524
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: I love where he is.

525
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I think, like you said, whenever we go out there,

526
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't worry because I know if all else.

527
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: Fails, I'm going to turn the CJ.

528
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: And I know regardless of how he's shooting, how he feels,

529
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: I know he rolling against whoever.

530
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: Like it don't matter if we're playing.

531
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: A non playoff team or if we're playing the Lakers

532
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: or Golden State or whoever. Like I know, we rolling

533
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: with no fear, and I can live with the result

534
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: as long as I know I got that beside me.

535
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: So that's just that's how it is with him and

536
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: we every before every season we come into the season

537
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: and it's like if I snap on you and yell

538
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: at you, I mean you're gonna take it, And if

539
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: you do it to me, I promise you don't going

540
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: to take it. But we got to hold each other

541
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: to that level without taking it personal. If we're gonna

542
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: do it, we gotta do for this team. And we

543
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: talk about like I'm just my fifth All Star game,

544
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: but I want to be an All Star Game with him, right.

545
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Like I go in these locker rooms and I'm seeing teammates.

546
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: Every dude, their teammates. They you know what I'm saying.

547
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: The teams are represented by two players and they got

548
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: one of their teammates with them.

549
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: And every year I'm like this, we need to get

550
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: to this year favorite too. So it's like I want

551
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: to see it happen for you. How did that feel like?

552
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: Because I look at it, I can remember back when

553
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: they was always trying to say that they need to

554
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: split y'all up, and you know, y'all can't play together.

555
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: Y'all two small guards that need the ball. And I

556
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: take my hat off to y'all. You know what I'm saying,

557
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: It definitely is it's a representation of how y'all bond is,

558
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: how y'all rock with each other, because none of that matters.

559
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 3: You just explained to yourself. But how did that feel

560
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: to know that y'all kind of quiet at that whole

561
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: discussion and it's been it's moved on to other things.

562
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: It's not so much about y'all to coexist, and it's

563
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 3: about what other things y'all can do to improve And y'all,

564
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean that takes two of y'all to come together

565
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: and dispel that.

566
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean because we really friends, so like he don't

567
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: hate on me and I don't hate on him.

568
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: I think it's we know that's that's that's a big

569
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: part of it.

570
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: I think that's just what it comes down to.

571
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: I feel like in this era of sports, there's so

572
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: many people that they pretend so hard to be so

573
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: tight that when it comes down, when at the second

574
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: that something come up where one person got to get

575
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: less than the other or this person get more credit,

576
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: like then the truth come out. And I think with

577
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: me and CJ, like we ain't never tried to play

578
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: extra tight or nothing.

579
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: We just let our relationship be what it is.

580
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: Like in the summertime, when I'm about to go somewhere,

581
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: I hit CJ, like I'm finna go here, what you're

582
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna be doing?

583
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: Like we really mess with each other, like it's a

584
00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: year round thing.

585
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, before he was even playing minutes, c J was

586
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: the first two years he wasn't playing at all, and

587
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: we sat next to each other on the plane and

588
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: was kicking it on the plane. So like, we're really friends.

589
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: So we don't if somebody say, oh, they can't play

590
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: together and that has nothing to do with me and him.

591
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: People always gonna talk and when the truth come out,

592
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, Okay, they're really friends. You made

593
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: a statement and said after you hit the playoffs shots

594
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: to gain Okay, see I was in range, like your

595
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: range is the logo.

596
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Like I was like, and I'm really.

597
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: Saying, man, listen, man, listen.

598
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: You shoot, you shoot a nice little wrink I like

599
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: it you.

600
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: Shoot falling in range.

601
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: I can go out there and miss both of them,

602
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: just but it's I like the wrinkles like, what what

603
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: made you? Like, you know, coaches don't listen to new thing.

604
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: They it's like, what made you just start shooting and

605
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: being comfortable with that shot? Because that's a comfortable shot. Like,

606
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: guys got to actually start guarding you at half court.

607
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: It's not that I put my feet on the three

608
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: point line with you and bag out And this is

609
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: part of your game. Now I'm seeing all these games,

610
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: these sixty point games, all this stuff, and you're shooting

611
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: that motherfucker from the logo, Like what how is that

612
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: to add that much range and to add that to

613
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: your game. I mean, I've always shot deep, Like even

614
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: high school college, I've always shot deep because in high

615
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: school I was the best player of my team. In college,

616
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: I was the best player, so teams was always trying

617
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: to stop me. So that was like the cleanest shot

618
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I can get sometimes, so I would just shoot it

619
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: from deep.

620
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

621
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: And then when I got to the league. I think

622
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: it was my my sixth year when we got swept

623
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: by New Orleans in the playoffs. It was a three

624
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: seed and had home court. They swept us, and everybody

625
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: was just killing us. They was killing me, like, oh,

626
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: he didn't show up and all this stuff, but they

627
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: was trapping me, double teaming, three bodies, just loading up.

628
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't Yeah, I couldn't even get a shot off,

629
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: but I was still I wasn't finna just not try it.

630
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: So I was just missing. I couldn't get nothing going.

631
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: But then that summer I was like, I gotta I

632
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: gotta figure something out of the team is just gonna

633
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: keep doing this, And my trainer, Phil Begner, was like,

634
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: we gotta start training further out. We gotta develop your

635
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: game further out so you can give yourself more space.

636
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: So we started off like just doing foundation shooting. So

637
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: I started off shooting deep without jumping, no momentum, nothing,

638
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: just dip, praise up and just without jumping. And then

639
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: we started doing it off the bounce, and then we

640
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: started moving into it, and then we started doing catching

641
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: shoot like quick releases just like under a second, just

642
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: firing them, and then we started doing shooting drills from

643
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: that distance. And then we started ending workouts doing all

644
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: those drills from that distance. So it was like when

645
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: I was tired, when I didn't have momentum, when it

646
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: was the end of the workout, when I was coming

647
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: back to shoot at night for a second workout, we

648
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: was just working at rains just so I could be

649
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: able to play from further out and teams wouldn't have

650
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: to they wouldn't be able to just take my space

651
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: away so easy. So like now teams try to do it. Now,

652
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: they'll run two people at me, but I'm so far

653
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: out when they do it that I just got a

654
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: lot more space, or it's more around the cover, so

655
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: when they start running at me, it's an easy pass.

656
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: Or if they run at me, I can get around

657
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: one of the defenders get to the lower space. So

658
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: that was when it really started. After we got swept

659
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, we got to start

660
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: just working from further out. So it's been like two

661
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: and a half years now where I do it all

662
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: the time, Like even during the season. I still when

663
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: I saw you last year at the USA thing, I

664
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: was waiting for them to get done because I was

665
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: about to shoot right before the playoffs.

666
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: Okay, see, that's when I found out he's kind of

667
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: like me. He was up there against some waters from

668
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: the facility, you know, that's right.

669
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: So it was like just doing it during the season,

670
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: just constantly standing in that routine and just over and

671
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: over and over to where it's just that comfortable.

672
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: Now I'm playing from just a different little effortless.

673
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: It looked like you're shooting the free throw, like you

674
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: don't you know how something are you trying to get

675
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: it there? It's like that's not like your normal shot,

676
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: and that's scary for defenders because like you still got speed.

677
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: So now y'all got to push up and like you say,

678
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: you get around them.

679
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: I can get all the way to the basket.

680
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I got so much wide open space to pass to anybody.

681
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: And when you play from that far out and not

682
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: get around and dude, the help gotta come from first.

683
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: They gotta cover more ground so the play is easier

684
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: to make.

685
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: And big guys got to get out there.

686
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: That's what they got you, the reason they got these

687
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: little centers out right.

688
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: So please, I need you to walk me through the

689
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: walk off series ending. I want to know how you

690
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: was so composed. They're gonna play that for the picture

691
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: for you on the ground. When they grabbing you, they

692
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: going crazy, not.

693
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: Just saying.

694
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: For a person. Game came a little, a little big baby,

695
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: bye bye, y'all, get your out of here.

696
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: It was after I made it.

697
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: I just felt so much inside of me because it

698
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: was so much back and forth in the series, Like

699
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: it was so much back and forth, and not just

700
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: during the games, but like postgame press conferences. It was

701
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: just so much being said that after I did it,

702
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I just like I turned back because I wanted to

703
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: look at their faces.

704
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see like look like yeah.

705
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: I really turned back, And once I did, I just

706
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: waved like I never even thought about waving.

707
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't even know what.

708
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Maybe do you posed a wave the goodbye? That's what

709
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: we do. We win, so we lose something, but this

710
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: is my turn.

711
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: What did you think in the afternoon when you saw

712
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: your you had to happen?

713
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: I did laugh because I didn't.

714
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: I laughed because the moment that it happened, I knew

715
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a mean because I didn't because

716
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even mean to make that face. I just

717
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: was like I was in the power. When I was

718
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: in the power, I looked up and the camera was

719
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: just right there in my face, So I just kind

720
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: of like stared at him. It wasn't even on preference though,

721
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: They just caught my face when it was like that,

722
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: the camera was right there.

723
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: That was your brother running down the side. My brother

724
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: and my sister. They I like their reaction too. I

725
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: brother had to put his drink down when I.

726
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: Saw I was like, Yo, what's wrong with this jid?

727
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: Like he's a straight calm dude.

728
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: That was priceless.

729
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: That was one of them yeah moments like yeah what yeah,

730
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: look John, Yeah.

731
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: What do you think you get your personality? I feel

732
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: like since day one when I started checking you out,

733
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: when you came in, you got like a poise about

734
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 3: yourself where it don't matter even you know what I'm saying,

735
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 3: when somebody coming at you trying to compete talk trash

736
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: like you not you don't really per se engage in

737
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: the trash talk. You got your little subtle isms ahead,

738
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 3: but like you don't really like for me, I look

739
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: at somebody like you, like if I had your type

740
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: of game, it wouldn't be nobody say shit to me

741
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: like you better not up in your mouth Like I

742
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: ain't even have your type of game, And I was

743
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: with everything. You know, y'all talk crap for you, you

744
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: and the next person.

745
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: But that's just because that's who you are.

746
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 1: So what even if it wasn't a basketball game, it'd

747
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: be like that.

748
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: That's how you so like for me.

749
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't think I get my personality from a basketball players,

750
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: from my dad and where I grew up and the

751
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: kind of people I grew up around. So I'm coming

752
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: into a basketball game like it's just a basketball game.

753
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: So if you talking trash to me about basketball, I

754
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: know I can do something about it. I don't gotta

755
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: talk crazy with you and all that. I know you

756
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: ain't gonna scare me, you ain't gonna really move me

757
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: either way. I'm gonna do what I gotta do regardless

758
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: of whatever you're saying. So you're really just psyching yourself

759
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: out more than you doing anything for me. So I

760
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: think that's just where it comes from. I believe in

761
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: what I do as a basketball player, and I know

762
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: what I come from, and I don't come from no

763
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: like punk shit, So when they turn into that, I

764
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: don't be really tripping on it. I don't be moved

765
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: by it at all, especially knowing that a lot of

766
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: these folks ain't about their life. And I think that

767
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: helped you be confident, Like you're more confident when you

768
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: like around the NBA more and you start to see

769
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: different personalities and different body language and different comments that

770
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: people make, and you're like, man, I've seen that before.

771
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: I know that behavior.

772
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: My aggression a lot like in the NBA too, because

773
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: it was like or something something on it on the

774
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: court can get you so mad and you're like, I'm

775
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: at him.

776
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: And you used to be like, oh no, if I

777
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: see him later, I'm getting at them.

778
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: But when you realize you see them guys later or

779
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: you you always passed them by.

780
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: Anyone, never like that.

781
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: That was just the game that night or the boat

782
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: heat might have threw that day.

783
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: He was mad about not getting a car.

784
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in something that didn't have appertain to me.

785
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: And when you kind of see that, it be like

786
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: why entertain it? But sometimes when it happened, you be

787
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: in your mind you like you think I'm a sucker. Yeah,

788
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: you think he ca with me.

789
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna say, because I definitely see every

790
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: once and again you like I said, you got your isms.

791
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: You let him know. I want to say it was

792
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: a few games back, I retweeted you you did something

793
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 3: I ain't know the professional list reader, but you said

794
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: they can't fuck with me. I said, boy, I retweeted

795
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 3: and said, no, they cannot. That was exactly I think

796
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: that this was in the midst of this whole, this

797
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: damn stretch, that's where you was going just.

798
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: Nuts, like the faulty fitty.

799
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: I just say what I mean. Yeah, you know what

800
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't I don't be in nobody face.

801
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't talk talk crazy.

802
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: I have.

803
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: I might have fifty, but I'm not about to be

804
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: saying something I might talk to my own team or

805
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: like the clip you're talking about, I said that to

806
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: the TV crew because they were just looking at me

807
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: when I was walking by. Yeah, but I mean, like,

808
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: I just say what I mean. I ain't saying I

809
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: don't disrespect nobody or nothing like that. A couple of

810
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: years ago, I feel like you was kind of frustrated

811
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: that they weren't giving you the credit that you deserve

812
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: special like with the all Star teams and stuff, and

813
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: I know, like it's a dayn time where it's a

814
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: bunch of point guards. You got the stuffs, you got

815
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: the kyriees, you got all that. From a couple of

816
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: years ago to now, I feel like everybody is really

817
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: knowing like she it's dame time. I'm here, and I'm

818
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: here to we welcome. I'm just as good as the

819
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: stuff and curage and all that stuff to get from them.

820
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Couple of years ago where they really didn't. It was

821
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: a debate whether you supposed to have been All Star,

822
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: which I don't know why now they know, like I'm

823
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: in regardless, Like how does it feel to just get

824
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: that progression and earn some more respect because you keep

825
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: on earning respect every year you play, but instead of

826
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: earning that respect over the year.

827
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it feel good to get to that point.

828
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: But I think I was just frustrated because I was

829
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: younger and I was trying so hard to prove myself

830
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: and trying so hard to show him like I'm just

831
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: nice too, I can do this too, And the more

832
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: that it wasn't being acknowledged, I was just irritated by it.

833
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Like one year I averaged twenty seven, made the playoffs

834
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: and like didn't make it. I'm like I wanted answers,

835
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like y'all need to tell

836
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: me why, Like otherwise y'all hating and y'all in denial,

837
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? Another year, I averaged twenty five

838
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: didn't make it. But at the time, I just was like,

839
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: I think I was just young, because as I've gotten older,

840
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: the more I just stopped caring and just started me

841
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: and handling my business for the reasons that means something

842
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: to me, is like All Star, All Star or something

843
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: like the playoffs Western Conference Finals. I just stopped caring.

844
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: So now it's all in their face. You know what

845
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I'm not saying nothing about it, so

846
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: it's even more powerful. This past summer, you came out

847
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: with an album. Yeah, I never seen like a ball

848
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: player get the type of love and respect like your

849
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: NBA brothers.

850
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: Then came out and like a lot.

851
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Of people from every industry from rap to pop to basketball, football, whatever,

852
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: it was just showing you love for this album and

853
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: a piece of art that you put together. Now you

854
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: can you can listen to the album and kind of

855
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: suck in what you feel about this album, how you

856
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: did yourself, and how you feel about the love that

857
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: everybody was because a lot of people was just reposting it,

858
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: retweeting it, just showing a lot of love, and I

859
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: felt that was dope as hell to show.

860
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: It was really cool.

861
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: I feel good about it because I wrote a lot

862
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: on this album, and I wasn't even planning on putting

863
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: one out. I was just like setting up a studio

864
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: in airbnbs, and I was traveling to train and stuff,

865
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: and I was just recording my first two albums I

866
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: put out. When I came back and listened to him,

867
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: like later, I was like, I like this song. I

868
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: liked that song. Like kind of picking and choosing. Some

869
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: of them just didn't sound as good as they did

870
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: when I recorded them. But with this album, when I

871
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: go back to it now listen to it, I'm like, man,

872
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: this is hard for.

873
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: Real, Like that's why people liked it, because it's actually good.

874
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: But to see like all the support from my peers

875
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: and real artists and actors and comedians and all that stuff,

876
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: I think that's real cool because for one, they don't

877
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: have to do it, and I think it's easy to

878
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: just hate, like all he a basketball player. He make

879
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: money already, and basketball players always want to rap. All

880
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: that did was tell me that they actually listened to

881
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: it and they respected it. So just getting that feedback,

882
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that's cool, you know what I'm saying.

883
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to sell music to oh, I

884
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: need to make more money. It is like I really

885
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: mess with music. I love to do music. So just

886
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: like the support and people acknowledging like this music is hard,

887
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: that's good enough for me. So I think it is

888
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: in that way, it accomplished what I wanted to accomplish

889
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: and which is rare because you know, most people who

890
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: do music, it's about the art too, but it's about

891
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: a dollar.

892
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. With yous like your biggest

893
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: right doing it because I really cared. Because you cared.

894
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: You grew up on hip hop, on the music you love.

895
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: You really loved this and that that goes a long way,

896
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: and that's why I was so happy with the love

897
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: and support of everybody who was just supporting.

898
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: You, you know what I'm saying. And you have the

899
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: opportunity to get one of the Goats.

900
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: To be on your album, and little Wayne, he'd have

901
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: been on all my album on all of it, I

902
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: was what I'm saying. But you had an opportunity to

903
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: get the Goat on your abb and you know, Wayne

904
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: is the gold of our era, you know what I'm saying.

905
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: Rapping and even more solid dude too, man.

906
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: And get an opportunity to perform with him, Like what's

907
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: the big thing about Wayne? Like when you got the

908
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to get with Wayne, it's like, Man, I got

909
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, somebody I've been listening to for so long

910
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: on a song on every album. It's rocking with me,

911
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy because it got to the point where

912
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: me and Wayne where I send him a song like

913
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm working on this and he'll send me three songs

914
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: like all right, rap on this and I'll do the

915
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: verses send them back. So I Didne did like five

916
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: six songs for Wayne that he just got. But I

917
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: think the coolest thing since I've been cool with him

918
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: is like I was in La one time. He was like, man,

919
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: pull up on me at the studio. I'm finna be

920
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm about to be at the studio. And I'm like,

921
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I pull up. You know what I'm saying. Whatever, And

922
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: when you're thinking little Wayne, I'm thinking, I'm finna pull

923
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: up the studio, it's finna be a bunch of people,

924
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes with him. I walked in there

925
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: and it was him, an engineer and one other person

926
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: just in there getting it in and then getting it

927
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: in I'm talking about like, I ain't never seen nobody

928
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: record like that. All the music he was playing, he

929
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: got like it was crazy, Like my I had respect

930
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: to the one million power for him before that, but

931
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: then after that, I was like, just crazy the way

932
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: this dude just record record, record record. He had ESPN

933
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: on the TV. He'll watch it for a second, go

934
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: back in the booth. It was just it was crazy.

935
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: Man.

936
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: I feel like you, one of the guys that's come

937
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: along has kind of made it okay and validated. You

938
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. This generation where you see a

939
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: lot of different guys in the league trying to put

940
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: out music and rapping. You got Victor O, the Deepot singing,

941
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But guys aren't afraid to

942
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying and step into that room

943
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: and say I want to do music or whether it's DJing,

944
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: rapping or whatever. You got guys that's doing it. And I

945
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: feel like you one of the first guys is making

946
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: it acceptable for the generation where when you jump out

947
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 3: there people and you know you got like you say,

948
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: the little one, the titans of the industry really rapping

949
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: you and validating saying that you know what I'm saying

950
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: that you can wrap you got you know what I'm

951
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: saying lyrics and bars. So how does that feel to

952
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: be part of that making it okay? And then just

953
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: just to see all of the other guys, like upcoming rookies,

954
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: like the Marvin Bagley guy seeing him rapping. Actually y'all

955
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: rapping with each other whatever, But you know, like, you know,

956
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: it's all that's that's that's you inspiring though.

957
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's cool because it's people did it

958
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: before I did it, and that made me feel like, man,

959
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: people have done it before, so I'm not doing something

960
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: that hasn't been done. So it was like that made

961
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: me that much more comfortable to just kind of do it.

962
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: It was just a matter of how I planned it

963
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: and how I put it together so people didn't just

964
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: shoot me away as soon as I did it. So

965
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: I like created a platform on Instagram four Bar Friday,

966
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: and I made it a community where a bunch of

967
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: people was doing it, and I just like slowly introduced

968
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: myself and during that time, I was able to show

969
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: my real passion for hip hop and the fact that

970
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm a student or the history of hip hop. I'm

971
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: not just some NBA player throwing my fucking hat in like,

972
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: oh I'm doing I'm doing music now out of nowhere.

973
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm just doing music because I'm an NBA player and

974
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: people are gonna support it. Like I took the same

975
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: steps as any other aspiring artists would. It was like

976
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: I did four Bar Friday for two years. I'm posting

977
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: four bars every Friday, over and over and over, and

978
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm allowing other people to be a part of it.

979
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: Then I was on SoundCloud for two summers dropping songs

980
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: every Monday.

981
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: Be right, putting me up on that.

982
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was doing it on SoundCloud for two years

983
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: and built up a SoundCloud following and I was going

984
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: to Arenas.

985
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: I remember we played in Milwaukee like during that.

986
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: Two years, and they was like SoundCloud rapper, But I'm like,

987
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: but all of y'all know that my shit is on SoundCloud,

988
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: so like just doing what it's supposed to be doing.

989
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: So once that happened, the following summer, I did a show.

990
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: The show sold out in forty five minutes. I sold merch.

991
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: I did a whole concert off SoundCloud music, and everybody

992
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: was like blowing up my social media like do an album,

993
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: you gotta do an album. So I did an album.

994
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Once I did that album, I did a couple more shows.

995
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: I did Vegas, I did Washington. I started just you

996
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: already did Vegas. Did Vegas matter fact, I did Vegas twice.

997
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Straight up, I start really doing it and they was

998
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: paying me to do it.

999
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: Something about your timing time, what you going on to

1000
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: It's one of the dopest parts of that though, Like

1001
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: you spoke on, I love the fact that now that

1002
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: you know in your latest album, you even went back

1003
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: and you bringing some of your artists from four Ball

1004
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: Friday and he's having them a platform and putting them out,

1005
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: giving them afore So that's super hard, Like you do

1006
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: it first created it, yeah, and then started putting it.

1007
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: Then you started each Friday with that because you make

1008
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: it a real platform. It's like, like I said, it's

1009
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: not even about me making money from it, but it's

1010
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: like I love music and the culture of music, So

1011
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: how can I like reach back and do some of

1012
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: these people like it's four War Friday artists that send

1013
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: me music I didn't been on so many people songs

1014
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: that people probably ain't even heard, but they like they

1015
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: got music with me, and it's like other four War

1016
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: Friday artists then connected with other artists and it's like

1017
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: a real community.

1018
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: It's like it's a real thing.

1019
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of rappers and people they

1020
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: just respect the fact that I didn't just jump into it,

1021
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: like listen to me. You know, it was like a

1022
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: real process of any other any other artists.

1023
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: Let's love love.

1024
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 3: You think you got that type of approach from from

1025
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: from your degree in sales, because real methodical and real situated.

1026
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think so, Like I had, I

1027
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: didn't been in every type of class, like my degree

1028
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: is in professional sales and business.

1029
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 2: So the negotiations the more.

1030
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: Know that, Jerry.

1031
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: But that go back to like I was just telling y'all,

1032
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: like having to sell magazine and neighborhood raffle tickets and

1033
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and you coming up to people and

1034
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: they looking at you like what are you doing over here?

1035
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.

1036
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: I seen you here every you was here last summer.

1037
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: Just so you gotta do the kids outside the Dream

1038
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: Hotel have.

1039
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: Some type of mouthpiece, yeah, and you gotta be able

1040
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: to like get people to listen to you. You got

1041
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: to show people like, this is what the return is,

1042
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: this is how I this is why this is valuable.

1043
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: This is the purpose, you know what I'm saying.

1044
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 1: So, like everything that I do, like, if it don't

1045
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: have a real purpose to me, I'm not gonna do

1046
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: it to begin with. So when I do decide to

1047
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: do it, I'm going to have idea and I'm gonna

1048
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: have a plan on how I'm gonna get people to

1049
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: buy into it. And once they do that, they gonna

1050
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: know that it ain't just some phony, random put together ship.

1051
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, Okay, I at least I respect it. So,

1052
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's always good to have a plan with

1053
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: anything you do instead of just going into it. We're

1054
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and all us always wanted to have

1055
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: a nickname.

1056
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: Dame Dollar, Dame Time. Which one you like the most?

1057
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: And how does the feel that just the world know

1058
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: you as your nickname? And just it seems like they

1059
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: connect more to you by calling you Dame Time or

1060
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: Dame Dollar.

1061
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: No that I think they do.

1062
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: Like, Dame Dollar is my rap name, and I gave

1063
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: myself that name, So I think Dame Time just hit

1064
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: harder for me because it's a name I think when

1065
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: people give you a name, that's when it's a real,

1066
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: real like gang behind it. It's people really behind it.

1067
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: Because I didn't ask you that, Like they gave me

1068
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: that off represent like how I represent myself, like on

1069
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: what I was done, and they said, this is what

1070
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: we think of that for not only fans to be

1071
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: saying it, for every time I look on First Take

1072
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: or TV stephen Ate Smith, like Dame Time and the

1073
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: NBA All Star drafted the other day when Brian picked me,

1074
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: he was like, damn time, I'm picking Dame Time. So like,

1075
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: that ain't something that I came up with, It's something

1076
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: that the people came up with.

1077
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: So I think that one just that just hearted.

1078
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1079
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: So you're the first player to be an all the

1080
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: events at All Stars and now you get to perform

1081
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: this that you're taking this step everybody any contest, and

1082
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: now you're about to go out there and hit the stage,

1083
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 3: Like tell me how that feel to how the n

1084
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: B A embrace you and say it. You know at

1085
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: our biggest stage, you know when we got our stars

1086
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 3: or stars out, they're gonna put you on that stage

1087
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: to perform.

1088
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: It's a situation where the NBA deserve a lot of

1089
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: credit because it's a it's something that they just don't do.

1090
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: They have the resources to go and get whatever artists

1091
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: they want and represent the NBA however they want to,

1092
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, and it's a big weekend for the NBA,

1093
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: so for them to be like, we're gonna take one

1094
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: of our players and put them on stage and give

1095
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: them a chance to do something to help himself. So

1096
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: like it's gonna look good on him to have a

1097
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: player that's performing and all that, but like the audience

1098
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: and how many people will be tuned in and all that,

1099
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Like what it could do for me just for my

1100
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: own artists. Like I think that's big of the NBA

1101
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: to allow that to happen. So it's gonna be cool, man.

1102
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

1103
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, the NBA, I feel like we always you know,

1104
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: from from David Stern even Adam Silva, now that the

1105
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: NBA is always done, you know, head and shoulders a

1106
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: best like the best job just promoting our players and

1107
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: allowing us to be who we are and do what

1108
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: we do and really getting behind us with itself.

1109
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: It's getting better, man.

1110
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: Because they had the dress code or y'ad they couldn't wear.

1111
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: The tall keys and no hats and all this stuff.

1112
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: And now it's like, that's why I said they deserve

1113
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: credit because they embracing like who we are, like what

1114
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: we like to do, like dudes showing up with no

1115
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: shirt underneath and just crazy stuff.

1116
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: But believe it or not, believe it or not, we

1117
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: had to wear them suits for y'all to be able

1118
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: to do this, because like if things had gotten so

1119
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: bad at that point, they had to we had the

1120
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: real things in and that's what that allows y'all to

1121
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: be able to go out there and fully express y'allself

1122
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: because like David Stern had to show him like, wait

1123
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: a minute, like they it's not as bad as you think.

1124
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: You can make it look this way. And then you know,

1125
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: once they once, once they got everybody to buy in

1126
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: and see what's really going on, Now you can go

1127
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 3: ahead and do what you do. You know what I'm saying.

1128
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: It's cool now, Yeah, for sure.

1129
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: You stranded on the island outside of your music. What's

1130
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: the three albums that you would love to have? The

1131
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: three albums I would love to have. I'm gonna have

1132
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: the Carter, I'm gonna have mm hmmm.

1133
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: Still madic.

1134
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: And all eyes on me, Pop Pop, did you ever

1135
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 4: think that you will have your own shoe? Hell now,

1136
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: I'll be lying if I said, I'll tell you a

1137
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: story right now. My So, when I got drafted, I

1138
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: went to the Summer League and I was wearing I

1139
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: was wearing Ja's the whole time, Like the whole draft process,

1140
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 4: I was wearing Jordan's. Adidas came with a contract at

1141
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: Summer League and there was way more money than I

1142
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 4: ever heard of us.

1143
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I'm taking it. I'm

1144
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: talking an agent like, let's do that right now. He's

1145
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: like all right. So they show up my hotel room.

1146
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: They give me some d roses. I'm like, cool, what

1147
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: other colors y'all got? Like, give me every shoe, y'all

1148
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: Take every shoe y'all got. So they come in, they

1149
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: give me the shoe. I'm like juice by all the

1150
00:53:58,840 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: shoes they done.

1151
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Brought to my room.

1152
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: Where it was in the first game, where the Eas

1153
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: In the next game, I'm matching them up. So they

1154
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: leave and my agent like, man, you're gonna get a

1155
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: signature shoe in a couple of years. You do what

1156
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: you gotta do, and you do this, you do that,

1157
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: you gonna get a signature. I was like, okay, like

1158
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: I thought when he said it to me, I was like,

1159
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: my attitude was the same as when he told me

1160
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna be a lottery pick. I was just like, y'all,

1161
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: that's the business, y'all just tell y'all just say that

1162
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: shit like anybody, that's your job to tell us, you

1163
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I ain't about to get

1164
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: no shoe. Don't nobody got no shoe. It was like

1165
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: five four or five, dude. So I kind of just

1166
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: shoot it off, like, man, he's lying, saying what you

1167
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: got to say. A couple of years later, they like,

1168
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: I showed up in Arizona add Up. It was like

1169
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: Adidas event on the resort. I showed up and they

1170
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: was just showing a bunch of new merch and socks

1171
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: and all type of stuff uniforms. And then at the

1172
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: end of that, they was like, all right, we need

1173
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: you for an hour after all this is done. I'm

1174
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: like an hour, I'm trying to leave, like' trying to

1175
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: come year. And they took me in the room and

1176
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: it was the beginning stages of my first signature. Shoe

1177
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: and I walked in there and I was like, I'm

1178
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: about to really get a signature shoes like.

1179
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Here.

1180
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: We ended up being in there for a minute. I'm like,

1181
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: can I take this? Can I take a picture it? Yea,

1182
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: I took the sample. I was training the whole summer

1183
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: in the samples, like.

1184
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: You couldn't take them off, man.

1185
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: So it's crazy when the bag kind of chinked in.

1186
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: What did you go and buy that? You thought? I

1187
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 2: was like, whoa, I just played all that for that

1188
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: when I first got in the league.

1189
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you got the money. When I first got

1190
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: the big purchase, like, wh I paid all that? I

1191
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: bought me a Porsche. That was the first Porsch up

1192
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: what you did, Wookie of the year. So that was

1193
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: like a bottle. I bought a Porsche off the rip off,

1194
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: like I bought it. Yep, I bought it. So I

1195
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: bought it so fast that I was still living in

1196
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: Oakland when I bought it, Like I went so like

1197
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: my first the first check I got from the Blazers,

1198
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: I hadn't even played a game yet.

1199
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: I went.

1200
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: I came to Portland in the summer and it was

1201
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: like advanced. So I came to Portland in summer and

1202
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: they handed me the check and I was like with

1203
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: my brother and my older cousin, that's like my brother

1204
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: and we looking at it like.

1205
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: Look all those zero We couldn't believe it. Like I

1206
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: was ready to go spin it all right there.

1207
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: I came back home, got back to Oakland, went to

1208
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: Berlin game, went to that Porsche dealership.

1209
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: I was in there looking at him. I was like.

1210
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Test driving them. I was scared as hell, test driving

1211
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: in porches like.

1212
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 2: You break you by.

1213
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: I got my first card when I was twenty one. Yeah,

1214
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: I had a Grand Prix around twenty one. I bought

1215
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 1: it for fifteen hundred dollars in the p S three

1216
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: man yes two Yeah, some games with it. Nah, it's

1217
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: just the system. Yeah, gameing my system. Real color was

1218
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: the poor Charco gray. How much it call?

1219
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: I still got it? Oh, you still got it. It

1220
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: was a honey h.

1221
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: Cool little six phase you know, something like something like

1222
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: something like for a real player out of these.

1223
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: You know hours I put up in the neighborhood in it.

1224
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: I bought it. Get some classes.

1225
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 3: You had to have some special I gotta pull up

1226
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: for the name.

1227
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: I was too juice to have anything.

1228
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: I went as I left the dealership in it, and

1229
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: I was sped back to Oakland Port, right into the neighborhood,

1230
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: no looking around with nobody outside.

1231
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: I was like, da.

1232
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: Time black supposed to be hot right now?

1233
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: Nobody outside.

1234
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: Did you talk to yourself or you wrapped the whole

1235
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: song and the joy when you first get I know,

1236
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: when I first got my first brand new John talking,

1237
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking all in the rearview. I kind of checking myself.

1238
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: I was looking at every song. I didn't even know

1239
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: how to work the radio. Once I got in it,

1240
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: I was like they was trying to explain to me,

1241
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: like all the different gadgets and all the stuff in.

1242
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: The car, like I gotta go. I was just wasn't listening.

1243
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: I was just like, shurry up and finished talking so

1244
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: I can pull up off this lot. So as soon

1245
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: as he got done explaining everything, he gave me the

1246
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: little manual and all that stuff, I sat it in

1247
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: the passenger seat, got up out of there, and then

1248
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: when I turned it off, I was like, I ain't

1249
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: really know how to do nothing. So I basically had

1250
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: to teach myself how to do everything in there.

1251
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: So when you came up, who did you pat in

1252
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: your game? After? I know you have the GPS, you

1253
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: have the Jason kids from your area? Who kids?

1254
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: All them from Oakland and we all knew they was

1255
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: from Oakland, so it was like we rode for gp.

1256
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: B sh'alla ja kid.

1257
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: Like hook Mitchell, everybody anybody from Oakland. We was LIKEOK, Mitchell, Yeah,

1258
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: you couldn't say nothing about him, but I was always

1259
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 1: more Stephanie Marberry, Ai, Nick van Exel, Kevin Johnson, like.

1260
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: I just saw kJ in the airport this morning.

1261
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: Theas that makes sense them was all I like, loved him, dude,

1262
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you got You.

1263
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: Just named all killers too, you killer.

1264
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: So you've been tearing the whole league up pretty much

1265
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: ripping apart. Who do you enjoy watching right now?

1266
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: Somebody?

1267
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: I mean obviously we all know Lebrons. Gianni's the big

1268
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: boy name, Like who do you sit back and on

1269
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: your off there or whatever? If they play you, like,

1270
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: I want to check this boy out.

1271
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: My favorite player to watch the league is Devin Booker.

1272
00:59:53,680 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: Range Rover. Devin Bookers code is an All Star. And

1273
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: I haven't said nothing. I haven't said nothing about book

1274
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: not making it because like I've been through him, you

1275
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: feel I know exactly how you feel. Like he averaging

1276
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: like twenty seven something right now, I averaged twenty seven

1277
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: and didn't make it. But like, I think it's crazy

1278
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: that he didn't because he's had more years of like

1279
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: killing and not making it than I did at the times. Like,

1280
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how he didn't make it this year. Yeah,

1281
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't get I don't know how.

1282
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how he didn't make it that that's

1283
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: not an All Star. I don't know what I like.

1284
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: I like him.

1285
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: I like his the main of how he played, and

1286
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: he just like he just hoped. He don't be saying

1287
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot. He really productively efficient. I don't I

1288
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: watch him and the other player I watched like often

1289
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: is Bogdanovitch Bogie and Sacramento be nice.

1290
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: To Yeah, I like him. Who's the first person you

1291
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: remember the first dunk owne?

1292
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: You had the first dunk on? I was in summer league?

1293
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: Who and it was Keith Benson. He was only in

1294
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: the league for a couple of years.

1295
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, it was Yeah.

1296
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: He played for Atlanta.

1297
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: He was another mid major big in my first summer

1298
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: league It was like ball got tipped by like right

1299
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: outside the three point line and I caught it, and

1300
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: I just took one dribble from the three of those

1301
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Speaker 1: rolls off one leg and he tried to get it too.

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Speaker 1: He fouled me and everything and we just like our

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Speaker 1: bodies was like tangled up. I went straight through him

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Speaker 1: like a real dunk. When was the first time you

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Speaker 1: met Michael Jordan. I never met Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: O did you like the first person we ever never

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Speaker 2: met Mike?

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Speaker 1: I was when I was in Charlotte. I think it

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Speaker 1: was like my second year we played at Charlotte, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I was walking down the uh. I was walking

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Speaker 1: in going to the to the locker room, and he

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Speaker 1: was a couple of feet behind me. I kind of

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Speaker 1: turned and looked and he just like nod of his head,

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Speaker 1: nod in my head, and I was just like.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I trust y'all had that all like what

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Speaker 2: do I do?

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Speaker 1: And I just kept walking like I'm just gonna keep walking.

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Speaker 1: But I ain't never met him. Oh, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a lot of like this.

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Speaker 1: My eighth year in the league, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: I would have met a lot more people like as

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Speaker 1: far as just famous people.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know nobody.

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Speaker 1: I mean like, I don't know no, I mean I

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Speaker 1: know people like some people, but I don't know nobody.

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Speaker 1: Like man, everybody know you, man, and everybody respects you

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Speaker 1: and your game.

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Speaker 3: So that's all about industry out here. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, industry, You know everybody everybody know him.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's That's truly a lot. What was

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Speaker 2: that movie you was in?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: He was?

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Speaker 3: That was he was in the Perfect Score. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm talking about you. You couldn't even

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Speaker 3: camouflage your right there.

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Speaker 2: Man, the moment right there, boy, you trying to snider

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Speaker 2: up the radar.

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Speaker 3: You didn't seen y'a out here?

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Speaker 2: You else?

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Speaker 1: That kind of killed the show right there. Yeah, talked

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Speaker 1: about when I was then ZeLing all.

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Speaker 3: Right, man. You know we got a special edition black

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Speaker 3: box that the blackest one came up with. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, got a little merching it for your

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Speaker 3: little T shirt, hoodie, knumblehead. And then you know, we

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Speaker 3: got very very special and very gracious sponsors. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, got that good Hennessy vs O

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Speaker 3: people We got the Knuckleheads Edition for you. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Appreciate you learning them to pull up show.

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Speaker 2: Man for sure. Appreciate y'all having me Man The Players

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