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Speaker 2: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Calda Health.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome, welcome, welcome to a Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve, Steve Tasker back in

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Speaker 1: the saddle. Easy for me to say, Welcome back, Steve.

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Speaker 3: How's it going?

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Speaker 4: Everybody gonna be back here going, every fidy has a

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Speaker 4: long weekend.

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Speaker 3: It was great though.

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Speaker 1: Ye the last of your five children are now married.

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Speaker 1: That's right, we had is now married.

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Speaker 4: Long story because we had it was down in the Greenville,

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Speaker 4: South Carolina, wonderful place. I recommend it to everybody who's

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Speaker 4: out there listening, go down and visit. It's a Southern

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Speaker 4: city who really spent a lot of time on what

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Speaker 4: their city was going to look like after the you know,

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Speaker 4: the gentrification and all the textile meals moved and all

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Speaker 4: this stuff.

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Speaker 3: It is wonderful down there anyway.

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Speaker 4: So remember in twenty nineteen the Bills went down into

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Speaker 4: Charlotte Bartinburg, Spartanburg and had dual practices with the Panthers. Right,

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Speaker 4: So we took the show down there is when Murph

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Speaker 4: was doing the show. And we went down there and

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Speaker 4: we and while we were practice one day, one of

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Speaker 4: the fans came out and said, hey, I got this

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Speaker 4: sports bar down there, love to have you guys come out.

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Speaker 4: Let us, you know, give you a dinner and da

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Speaker 4: da da da da. So Murph you know us and

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Speaker 4: Jay Harris and all of the said, yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 3: We went out. That was four years ago.

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Speaker 1: I ended up going with the place of murf Okay,

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Speaker 1: Murph couldn't make it.

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Speaker 3: So we went out there.

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Speaker 4: So then my son and you know, years later obviously,

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Speaker 4: now we're back in Greenville, South Carolina, which is just

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Speaker 4: a tick up from Spartanburg, and the in the new

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Speaker 4: in laws, which wonderful people, Mark and Renee, the three awesome.

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Speaker 4: So they're great fam They got a lot large net

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Speaker 4: group of friends. It was a wonderful weekend. They say,

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Speaker 4: we're going to take you on Sunday, since you're here

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Speaker 4: for the way and we know you're not working.

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Speaker 3: You know, the bills are playing washing We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a watch party and lo and behold we go to

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Speaker 3: the same spot, the same bar. They so like all

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Speaker 3: these good have you back. It was great. It was great.

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Speaker 4: The East Side Bar and grill and we went over

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Speaker 4: and I remember the place right We went. We were

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Speaker 4: in there in the same place, so same great family,

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Speaker 4: great bunch of owned a lot of huge Bills fans

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Speaker 4: watch party and of course you know my whole clan,

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Speaker 4: I mean my wife's brothers, my brothers, all their kids

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Speaker 4: and cousins, and then you know the crew that was

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Speaker 4: there and our whole fan Yeah, we plopped in. They

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Speaker 4: bought a new tent put up out on the ad

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Speaker 4: a tent for us separate, so we could like squeeze

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Speaker 4: in because it's a Bills back.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's crowded in there. Great time, I can't

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Speaker 3: imagine time.

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Speaker 1: And the game only helped.

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Speaker 4: And listen, Yeah, it was the great The game was awesome.

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Speaker 4: Yea one thing after another, Terrell Bernard busting out a

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Speaker 4: j Panessa's play, Josh's finger roll, Steph Diggs absolutely just

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Speaker 4: roping those guys.

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Speaker 3: It was a great game.

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Speaker 4: Was a great game, and they were what two and

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Speaker 4: oh coming in they were It's kind of hard to

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Speaker 4: remember that now because they've played Denver and they'd played

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Speaker 3: So like, okay, and I said this on my it

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Speaker 3: was a step up in weight class for Washington a

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Speaker 3: couple of weight classes. Yeah, yeah, they were.

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Speaker 1: Much like it is for the Bills this week. When

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Speaker 1: you think about who they've played the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: the Commanders and the Raiders, this is a step up

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Speaker 1: as well. It's a this is a heavyweight bout this week,

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Speaker 1: which is why everybody is already talking about it is.

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Speaker 4: It is a big match this And I talked to

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Speaker 4: Maddie Glab today and she's writing an article about, you know,

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Speaker 4: reminiscing about the old rivalry between Don Shula and you know,

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Speaker 4: Marv Levy and Jim and Dan and you know John

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Speaker 3: That crew and Bruce and the mh. This is this

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Speaker 3: is is just like it.

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Speaker 1: We're back, We're right back.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. The Dolphins come in here looking like

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Speaker 4: nobody's ever seen.

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Speaker 1: The two highest scoring offenses in football right now squaring

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Speaker 1: off this weekend. The Bills, oh, by the way, also

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Speaker 1: have the number two defense in football. Yeah, the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: cannot say that. They're rather ordinary. And we'll get into

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Speaker 1: that through the course of today's show.

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Speaker 3: And you've got.

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Speaker 4: Josh who's like nine and two overall in his career

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Speaker 4: against him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll work and.

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Speaker 1: Hope it continues.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this though. We you and I.

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Speaker 4: We've had a lot of fun at to his expense

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Speaker 4: over the year, not not because of his concussions or

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Speaker 3: We you know, we're not. We weren't having been believers, right,

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Speaker 3: hard to take that stance.

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Speaker 1: Well, last year season last year, despite missing five I

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Speaker 1: still qualified because he had enough pass attempts and led

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Speaker 1: the league in passer rating last year. Right now he's

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Speaker 1: leading the league in passer rating again. Yeah, so it's

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Speaker 1: hard to deny what he is. And I was listening

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Speaker 1: as much as we would listening to the morning show

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo with Howard and Joe or Howard Jeremy

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Speaker 1: and Joe, and they were getting calls from people who

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Speaker 1: are claiming the two is a system quarterback. And while

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Speaker 1: that may be true, if he is unbelievably good in

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Speaker 1: the system, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Was Joe Montana's system quarterback under Bill Walsh? Maybe whatever?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I get it.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, extraordinarily good in the system.

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Speaker 4: The thought is that if you take the guy out

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, if you plug somebody else, and

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Speaker 4: they could be just.

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Speaker 3: As good that kind is what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: And physically speaking, you know, Josh got a better arm, okay,

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Speaker 4: better athlete to Okay, I don't know that Josh would

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Speaker 4: be as good as to. I think it would look

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Speaker 4: way different with Josh in there than Tua.

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Speaker 1: I would say. If there is one thing that too

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Speaker 4: Is accuracy too. The guy puts it on the money

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Speaker 4: and when that ball comes out, it's going to where

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Speaker 4: he aims it. So I'm and but when you say that,

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Speaker 4: like you if you plugged, I mean pick your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: If you plug Trevor Lawrence into the Miami offense or

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen, certainly Mahoondall, it would still be a successful offense.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Tua is the reason it's going so well,

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Speaker 4: but he gets some credit for that.

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Speaker 1: He's got to get something.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's I mean it would I just think

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Speaker 4: it would look way different with a different quarterback in

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Speaker 4: that system, because Josh mc or different McDaniel is going

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Speaker 3: I think it looks the way it does because of Tua.

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Speaker 4: And in that regard, you got to say, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 4: the system is because of Tua.

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Speaker 1: I think it looks the way it is because of

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Speaker 1: all the speed they put on the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yes, But the point is, if you're talking about the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: they would ask a different quarterback to do a lot

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Speaker 4: of different things than they asked Tua to do.

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, right, he just has to

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Speaker 1: be a point guard in that offense though, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. And he's a good point guard. I

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Speaker 1: mean almost like John Stockton back there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But uh, and we'll and we'll get into this all

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Speaker 1: week long. We've got Dan Orlowski from ESBN coming up

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Speaker 1: an hour number two. He'll help us kind of dissect

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Speaker 1: what has made the Dolphins offense so successful. I just

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Speaker 1: think their ability to create space by striking fear in

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Speaker 1: defenses with their speed is one of the main reasons

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Speaker 1: why you have people running wide open catching footballs with

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Speaker 1: the biggest windows of separation we've seen all seasons.

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Speaker 4: Right, And I'll say this too, You know when when

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins played extremely well against the Broncos. Broncos couldn't

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Speaker 4: almost couldn't have helped him out anymore than they did.

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Speaker 1: There's defensively, I would agree. Defensively forget Russell Wilson threw

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Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns, and they had two touchdowns nullified by penalty.

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Speaker 1: They scored two touchdowns came back on penalties. So does

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Speaker 1: it make a big difference if it was seventy to

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Speaker 1: thirty five. No, But my point is it's not like

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Speaker 1: the offense for the Broncos didn't have any measure of success.

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Speaker 1: They did. It's just that it turned into a track

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Speaker 1: what happened, And they didn't have anybody that seemingly cared

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Speaker 4: At that point, right, Yeah, Denver absolutely gave up on

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Speaker 4: that game and it showed, and we talked about that.

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Speaker 1: Because it's hard to score seventy. Well, yeah, but against

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Speaker 4: They were sitting guy, I mean, Mike White came in

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Speaker 4: and they were and they and Mike six touched Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 4: They the way it kind of works in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And and you'll know, there's no written rules. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you can do whatever you want. There's this isn't baseball.

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Speaker 4: It's not baseball, where the unwritten rules says this, and

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Speaker 4: everybody gets all upset if you don't follow it. They're no,

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Speaker 4: you can win a thousand to nothing in football if

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Speaker 3: If you don't like it, don't don't let it happen.

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Speaker 1: Don't stop them.

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Speaker 4: But what happens in the NFL is when you get

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Speaker 4: up big Josh sits down toa sits down. You know

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Speaker 4: those guys are you know that you got the three

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Speaker 4: backup offensive lineman playing. You know, that's what happened with Buffalo,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Bates, you know, Ryan vander Martin, Vander Mark and

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Speaker 4: David Edwards, they were all playing. You know they sit

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Speaker 4: everybody down that they can sit, but you don't. If

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Speaker 4: you're gonna go into an NFL game, you're not gonna

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Speaker 4: ask those guys go in there and lay down for anybody.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna go in there and play because they don't

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Speaker 4: gonna play much. They're not Like, you're gonna let Mike

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Speaker 4: White run the offense. Now, you can pick your plays,

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Speaker 4: all right, you might. You're gonna hand it off twice

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Speaker 4: and then on third down if we need to, we'll

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Speaker 4: throw it.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna do. That's how the offense is

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Speaker 3: gonna run.

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Speaker 4: Well, if he goes out there and they're ringing it

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Speaker 4: up on him, that is calling in the dogs. And

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Speaker 4: Care if they go two and fifteen. No, they're fine.

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Speaker 4: They should. They may not because the pressure will be

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Speaker 3: You are done. You are done.

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Speaker 3: You have always done.

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Speaker 4: That's not easy. So you can say what you want

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Speaker 1: Like they have.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna you gotta. That's how it's done.

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Speaker 4: To be able to I mean, if Arizona gets it.

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Speaker 4: Salah is a really smart dude. Nobody's perfect, but he's

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Speaker 4: You gotta do that, Okay, you gotta do That's the way.

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Speaker 4: That's the way life is. What's he gonna do now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna take that much. It's not gonna take much.

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Speaker 1: If they can get competent quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: I know. Bill's fans have seen this before. This is

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Speaker 4: No, there's already been articles coming out and they're the

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Speaker 4: Bit of stuff from Zeke, but not too much. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well, they did not look impressive last week against Arizona,

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Brought to you by Kalida Health, the official

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Speaker 1: Topic of discussion for you at eighth three oh five

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Speaker 1: throws his sixty seven yard touchdown pass. He only threw

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Speaker 1: two passes in the whole game. One goes for sixty

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Speaker 1: seven in a touch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I said, Mike mcgainda did not try

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Speaker 4: and run it up there. But you're not gonna tell

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Speaker 4: your players not to play hard, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike White gets him. What's he gonna do.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna try and put some tape and get a

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Speaker 4: contract he wants, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Broncos could not wait for that game.

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Speaker 1: To get it. Found it interesting that coach McDermott, who

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Speaker 1: was just diving into the Miami tape because he you know,

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Speaker 1: went through yesterday's he went through Sunday's game with Washington first,

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Speaker 1: and you know, corrections and all those things, and he

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Speaker 1: used the word revolutionary for Miami's offense, which is that's

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Speaker 1: high praise. I mean, for a guy that's been in

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Speaker 1: the league over twenty years, calling this off revolutionary is

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Speaker 1: is saying something right. So but we want to know

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Speaker 1: what you think. Eighth three, five fifty two fifty the

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Speaker 1: number to get on board. Got some open lines for

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Speaker 1: you there, But we lead off today with Mark in

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Speaker 1: West Seneca. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Mark here?

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Speaker 1: Owen Bill's life.

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Speaker 6: Good afternoon, guys, Hey Steve, welcome back. Co grabs on

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Speaker 6: bearing off another one of your kids. Thank it sounds

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Speaker 6: like it was a good time. I got a comment

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Speaker 6: about the Jets real quick, and then a question about

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Speaker 6: our defense. The comment about the Jets is, I'm going

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Speaker 6: to give the Jets credit, but grudgingly. First of all,

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Speaker 6: about their their draft. They finally decided to pick the

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Speaker 6: right guys where they picked, you know, picking so high

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Speaker 6: in the draft year after year after year. So I'll

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Speaker 6: give them credit for that. But I mean, finally, after

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Speaker 6: all these attempts, they finally drafted some some viable players.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think they get criticized enough for going

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Speaker 6: out and getting a thirty nine year old quarterback and

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Speaker 6: then not doing anything to fortify their offense the line

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Speaker 6: on the edges. I think it was absolutely ridiculous what

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Speaker 6: they went into the season with that tackle so and

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Speaker 6: I don't think that gets brought up enough. They did

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Speaker 6: a lot of good things, Okay, I give their GM

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Speaker 6: and their coach credit for that, but that mix of

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Speaker 6: that plan upfront for the offense has proven to be disastrous.

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Speaker 6: And my question for our defense is this. And this

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Speaker 6: is grudgingly because we've been playing so well defensively. I'm

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Speaker 6: not all for changing a lot, but I was thinking

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Speaker 6: about this and saying, can you see points in the

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Speaker 6: game where McDermott takes a defensive tackle off the field,

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Speaker 6: depending on the down and distance, which one it would be.

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Speaker 6: If it's a rush, to leave at Oliver in there,

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Speaker 6: if it's pass rush with Floyd and with Rousseau, or

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Speaker 6: if it's early downs, maybe put leaving Jones or whoever

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Speaker 6: in there, and putting another linebacker on the field, maybe

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Speaker 6: even the Williams because he's so athletic and flooding the underneath,

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Speaker 6: underneath crossing zones in still play, Nickel still go on

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Speaker 6: our five DB's, but then go with three linebackers. Also,

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Speaker 6: you think that that's something that's viable and able to

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Speaker 6: be done when it's something you you typically have never

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Speaker 6: done on a short you know, in just a week's.

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Speaker 4: Time, they certainly mark they could put that in and

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Speaker 4: do that scheme. That means you're only rushing three guys basically,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, you're playing a three three five, and yes,

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Speaker 4: that's you can do that. I would say I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: bet on I wouldn't bet on it, but yeah I

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Speaker 4: could because here the thing is that, particularly against this

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Speaker 4: Miami team, I don't think it would fit because of

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Speaker 4: their speed. And you know, you could put eight guys

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Speaker 4: back there and they can take the lid off and

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Speaker 4: stretch the field so far you still got guys playing

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Speaker 4: in space. So the I think the more productive and

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Speaker 4: acceptable way would be to get pressure as quick and

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Speaker 4: as consistent as you can, to make sure the quarterback

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Speaker 4: has to throw the football quick, because if he doesn't

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Speaker 4: have to throw it quick, that means the field gets

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Speaker 4: bigger and bigger as the receivers go further and further

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Speaker 4: away from the line of scrimmage, that you've got to

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Speaker 4: defend more and more ground and longer.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback holds it.

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Speaker 4: The more space and the more space and the more

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Speaker 4: space you're asked to cover, so you got to make

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Speaker 4: the quarterback get rid of the football.

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Speaker 3: Now some quarter Now the teams.

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Speaker 4: Are all built for that, which is why a lot

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Speaker 4: of teams have this quick release, possession type, short throws,

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Speaker 4: long run kind of offenses. So go in the opposite

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Speaker 4: of that, and just putting three pass rushers on the

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Speaker 4: field leaves you susceptible.

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Speaker 3: To having.

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Speaker 4: All three of those guys double teamed and then four

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Speaker 4: eligible receivers running around down the field doing whatever they

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Speaker 4: want and waiting and waiting and waiting, and sooner or later,

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Speaker 4: you just and.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to max protect, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: chip because there's only three guys coming right.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, I would say if you'd take it

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Speaker 4: would take six guys to double team all three of them.

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Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from. You know, you want

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Speaker 1: to get faster on the field, so maybe you put

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Speaker 1: an athletic linebacker out there to cover more ground. The

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Speaker 1: thing is, Miami is so good at stretching you horizontally

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Speaker 1: with their pre snap motion that it forces guys in

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Speaker 1: the back seven to cheat one way or the other,

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Speaker 1: but that that opens up a hole, usually somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and their fast players exploit

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Speaker 1: that because they can fill that space before you can

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Speaker 1: get back and recover to cover it. And that's why,

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Speaker 1: you know, some of the highlights our MSG viewers were

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Speaker 1: watching earlier here in this segment are seeing Tyreek Kill

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Speaker 1: catch the ball. There's nobody around him for ten yards.

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Speaker 1: He takes five steps, there's still nobody in the camera

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Speaker 1: shot right still, So there. The best thing that Mike

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Speaker 1: McDaniel does with his scheming is creates space on the

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Speaker 1: field and he's got the fastest players in the league

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Speaker 1: to fill the space and then vacate it after they

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Speaker 1: have the ball. And if you're not close enough to them,

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Speaker 1: the play's over and it's going to end in the

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Speaker 1: end zone. That's the problem. Right back to the phones

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Speaker 1: and too, Jay in North Buffalo, what do you got

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Speaker 1: for us?

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Speaker 3: Jay?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I just want to say, I think when

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Speaker 7: it comes to like where I'm leaning towards on this game,

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Speaker 7: I think there's a lot that is on our defenses

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Speaker 7: plate more specifically, our head coaches played. You know, this

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Speaker 7: is why we have our head coach as our defensive

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Speaker 7: play caller. You know, the innovation needs to be there,

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Speaker 7: you know, and but you also have to stay.

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Speaker 8: True to your principles.

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Speaker 7: And I'm just telling you guys right now, if we

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Speaker 7: come out with this whole, then but don't break, you know,

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Speaker 7: let them get their yards. You know, we'll we'll see

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Speaker 7: real fast, you know, if the innovation is there from

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Speaker 7: our head coach who's supposed to be great as a

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Speaker 7: defensive play caller. So I'm banking on them this week.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think this is a big game for

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Speaker 7: not just you know, the season and the division, but

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Speaker 7: also for you know, a reputation standpoint. You nice, the

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Speaker 7: Dolphins come out and they hang forty nine on us

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Speaker 7: and make this molks, make this look a good trend.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 7: McDermott needs to step up. He needs to be like

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Speaker 7: Bill Belichick ask and I'm banking on him. I believe

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Speaker 7: in our head coach, so that I'll be insaid and

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Speaker 7: I'll hang up and listen to your comments and go Bill.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Jay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when he says, Ben, but doan Brown know he's said,

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Speaker 4: it may be the thing that you want to do

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Speaker 4: to this Dolphins offense and make him go the long way.

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Speaker 4: If they can put together ten twelve play or fifteen

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Speaker 4: play drive and score off of it, you know, bless

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Speaker 4: their heart, let's see him do it again.

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Speaker 1: That was Belichick's plan two weeks ago. He said, we'll

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Speaker 1: we'll bleed them down the field and then we'll tighten

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Speaker 1: up when we get to the red zone, which is

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Speaker 1: where New England defense is notoriously good year over year

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Speaker 1: over year over year. And that was his game plan

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago. They held them to twenty.

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Speaker 4: Right, and that's what you and holding them to twenty

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Speaker 4: four gives you a chance. Right, you can score twenty four.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna score seven. You're not gonna right, You're

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Speaker 4: not gonna if they score seventy, you're not scoring seventy three.

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Speaker 4: You know you you got to give yourself a chance.

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Speaker 4: Now you can also play complimentary football. And this is

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Speaker 4: where the Bills maybe have it over the Dolphins. The

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Speaker 4: Bill's defense has been good statistically, they have gotten good

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Speaker 4: pass rush, they've got they lead the league in interceptions,

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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. But you're gonna have to beat

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Speaker 4: this Dolphins team with everybody offense, defense, special teams.

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Speaker 3: You got to do it all.

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Speaker 4: So You've got to make sure that you get contributions

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Speaker 4: from your defense and your offense, helping your defense by

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Speaker 4: putting together a couple of long drives and being efficient.

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Speaker 4: And when you get a chance, you gotta score. So

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Speaker 4: you got to put some pressure back on the Dolphins

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Speaker 4: keep the game close. So I think if the Bills

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Speaker 4: are gonna win this game, it's gonna take offense and defense.

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Speaker 4: So last week, I mean, the Miami defense could have

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Speaker 4: sat down, you know, because their offense.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't. Their offense was just unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: They gave up three hundred passing yards through the air

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Speaker 1: and it didn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and they gave up thirteen points. You know.

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Speaker 4: The other they got a touchdown on a kickoff return

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Speaker 4: Denver did at the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you talk about putting perfume on a pig.

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Speaker 4: A kickoff return for a touchdown for the Broncos getting

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Speaker 4: beat by by by fifty seven.

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Speaker 3: No, is that what you think?

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Speaker 1: That's forty finished fifty point games seventy to twenty.

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Speaker 4: They were getting beat by forty three, they were getting

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Speaker 4: beat by forty. No fifty, they were down fifty scored

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Speaker 4: a touchdown to get it twenty to sixty three, and

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Speaker 4: then they gave up another touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad. Uh, we are laid for the break.

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Speaker 1: We have to step aside here, but more of your

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Speaker 1: phone calls when we returned. Which way do your emotions

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Speaker 1: lean for the game this week between the Bills and Dolphins?

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Speaker 1: A worried about the Dolphins offense? Or be confident in

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Speaker 1: the Bills defense? Let us know what you think next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collida Help, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Raady All right back here on One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

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Speaker 1: and our discussion today obviously centers around Bill's Dolphins on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Which way do your emotions lean right now for the

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Speaker 1: game this week? Are you a more worried about the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins offense or be more confident in the Bill's defense?

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Speaker 3: Way?

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Speaker 1: And if you want it One Bill's Live on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet otherwise, give us a call at eight O

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Speaker 1: three oh five point fifty one eight eight five point

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Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board.

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Speaker 1: Got some open lines for you there. We'd lead off

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Speaker 1: this segment with Mark in New Jersey what do you

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Speaker 1: got for us?

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Speaker 3: Mark?

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Steve good to hear you back. I'm

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Speaker 5: more confident than the Bills for just one reason. They're competent.

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Speaker 5: Like that's what's going on in Denver's not competent. That

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Speaker 5: Brandon's daily thing in La San Diego, whatever, it's not.

660
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 5: The guy is not competent. The results bear fruits. Nobody's

661
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 5: seventy points better than another NFL team. The Bills last opponent,

662
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 5: Sam Howe, dropped thirty two unanswered against Denver's defense, mostly

663
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 5: in the second Can you imagine that that kid was horrified,

664
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 5: like he was shook. He threw four picks, could have

665
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 5: been five. Like that same kid that the Bills just

666
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 5: destroyed dropped thirty plus on Denver's defense, and we're here

667
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: just goga over. Yeah, they're fast, all that motion, most

668
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 5: of its eye candy. That team does not I said

669
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: it yesterday. That team does not want to play for

670
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: that head coach. It was. There was so many things

671
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 5: that happened that game. There was a catch Courtland Sutton

672
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 5: made on the sideline that Peyton didn't challenge that he

673
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 5: ended up coming down with ruled it in complete. Sutton fumbled.

674
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 5: Consequently two times later on in the game, there was

675
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 5: two touchdowns, like you alluded to, called back. It was

676
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 5: the perfect storm. It was just it was a Madden game.

677
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 5: A kid that was like a competitive Madden player against

678
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 5: just you know, your run of the mill Mavis kid,

679
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 5: and that can happen to you and Madden. Actually, that's

680
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 5: why everybody we have such a fantasy football Madden centric culture. Now,

681
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 5: that's why everybody's so gog over. I'm way more confident

682
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 5: in what the Bills can just produce from a competent standpoint.

683
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

684
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: That's a great analogy about Sam Howe hanging thirty two

685
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 4: plus on him in the second half. In a half,

686
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: things are bad over there. And it's interesting that a

687
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: coach with the pedigree that Sean Payton has would allow

688
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: that can let that happen. And now it's not on

689
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: the offensive side of the ball, no question.

690
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: And he walked.

691
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 4: He was in there to fix the offense. But the

692
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, who is his name's escaping me Rahi Vance Joseph.

693
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 4: Vance Joseph has also been around the block a couple

694
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 4: of times in the NFL.

695
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: Was a head coach for a minute.

696
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: It's I think indicative of where the roster of the

697
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: Broncos is right now. Their leadership void on the player's

698
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 4: side is showing through big deal a lot. I think

699
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: you're starting to see some discouragement, which is.

700
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, there's no coming back from that.

701
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Well, you saw Garrett Bowles and aid I've.

702
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: Been your seven years. All we've done is lose.

703
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: Is not wrong.

704
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 4: That is, that's a hard place to be because we've

705
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 4: we talked about it a lot on our show about

706
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: what the NFL commands and demands of its players. It

707
00:36:53,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: is a physical, physically demanding, painful game to play, and

708
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: you risk injury. And I know it's a trite and

709
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: cliche thing to say, but you risk injury every play

710
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: and to go out there and be discouraged or in

711
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: a finger quotes cause that you feel as hopeless.

712
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 3: You give up seventy points. You give up seventy That's

713
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: how it happens, right there.

714
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: It is how it happens. I don't think there's any

715
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: question about that. There have to be some forces at work,

716
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, all due respect to Miami's ability to score points,

717
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: there have to be some other forces at work to

718
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: get you there. I mean, that doesn't. As Steve has

719
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: said all the time, the margins in this league from

720
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: the best team in the league to the worst are

721
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: pretty thin because the talent is so good on thirty

722
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: two teams. I mean, you're talking about the best football

723
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: players on the planet, and even the worst teams in

724
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: the league have a handful of guys that are elite.

725
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: So to hang seventy is a rarity, and usually some

726
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: other forces have to come into play, like our cooler

727
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Mark mentioned. But I do like the analogy Sam Hall

728
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: hung thirty two on them in the second half.

729
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

730
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of puts it in a little bit

731
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: better perspective. So well done on that, Mark. Let's go

732
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: to Kevin in Hamburg next week.

733
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: You got Kevin, Hey, guys.

734
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: How you doing. Thanks for taking my call. Sure, I'm

735
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: more worried about the Dolphins offense this year for two reasons.

736
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: Why.

737
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: Number one, they got more experienced with their new coach

738
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: than they had last year. Number one number two, I

739
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: don't think I had to remind you that in that

740
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: last game the two were played up here that week

741
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: before the Christmas blizzard because the Skylar Thompson went with

742
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: somebody else quarterback and the Dolphins. He was doing pretty

743
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: good against us until the white stuff started coming down

744
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: pretty bad. That last three fifty of the game. He was,

745
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, rocking up and down the field on us

746
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: until the white stuff started coming down and they were

747
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't they were covering us, but they weren't, you know,

748
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: the like they were stinking. Then the white stuff came

749
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: down and stuck worse. And they're not gonna be a

750
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: wake up this week to depend on. So I won't

751
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: win me in the home field, but it's gonna be

752
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: one of those game type things.

753
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 4: Also, Yes, I get I get what you're saying, Kevin,

754
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: and I agree with the the early you know that

755
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: early returns on their offense or they are playing very good.

756
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: They do have more continuity. They got another year in

757
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 4: this system. Two has another year Tyreek Jalen Waddle, or

758
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: a year deeper into it. They can do some things

759
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: easier and more efficiently on the fly in adjustments and

760
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: that kind of that's that's the beauty of having a

761
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: lot of guys who are deep in the offense for

762
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 4: a couple of years, because all of a sudden you

763
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: get a quarterback that looks out to his right and

764
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: just and kind of cocks his head like one size

765
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: to the side, and that says a whole conversation to

766
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 4: the guy.

767
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: He did that too.

768
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 4: They know where they were, They know where this head

769
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: cock came from. You know what I mean, tilting your

770
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 4: head and telling him what to do with one small

771
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: twitch of his head can tell the guy a whole

772
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 4: conversation because they've been through this before. That's where Miami's

773
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: getting to with Tyreek and Jalen Waddle. The longer you spend,

774
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 4: the more quickly you can adjust on the fly and

775
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: do something the other defense has never seen before.

776
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: That's all true.

777
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: The stuff about last year when the Bills were stinking

778
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: and that snowstorm and in the last week Brownie and

779
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: I and I continue to maintain this publicly and privately.

780
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: The two wins the Bills got at the end of

781
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 4: the year the Patriots game of the Dolphins game, and

782
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: the loss they took in the playoff, or the win

783
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: they got against the Dolphins in the playoffs. You can

784
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: wipe all the wins and the losses off. They were

785
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: aberrations the entire rest of the season. After the Monday

786
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 4: night game in Cincinnati was an absolute blur for most

787
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 4: of these guys. They weren't the same team. They didn't

788
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 4: practice the same, they didn't prepare the same. They weren't

789
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 4: as ready to play.

790
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: They couldn't practice, they didn't pay in an.

791
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: Emotional state that they allow for it.

792
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 4: They were completely It was like they got dropped on

793
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 4: another planet playing another sport. So the games they won,

794
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: you know, they won the next week against New England.

795
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: He was referring to the Sunday Night game where Tyler

796
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: Bass wins it on a kick at the end. He

797
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: was referring to that game, the Sunday Night Game, which

798
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: was late in the season December. Josh puts the Cape

799
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: on down eleven with four minutes left and somehow pulls

800
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: the game out, gets him into the field goal range

801
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: at the end, and Bass kicks the kick on the

802
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: last play of the game. They went thirty two to

803
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: twenty nine.

804
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: I get you.

805
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: That's the game that Kevin was referring to. It this

806
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: was before the yes, yeah, yeah, but uh yeah, you're

807
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: not wrong. The Dolphins played them tough in both games.

808
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: One games decided by two points, the other games decided

809
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: by three points. I would say, you can argue what

810
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: you want about, you know, the oppressive heat down there

811
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: in Miami back in Week three, but here they had snow,

812
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: and Kevin seems to think that the weather had an

813
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: impact on two at the end of that game.

814
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: No, on the Jet game in Week fourteen, it was

815
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: last week. I'm sorry, no, no, no, that's not right. In

816
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 4: week fifteen, thirty two, twenty nine. Yeah, the one we're seeing.

817
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: We're looking at highlights. Now, this the game and this

818
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: was early in the game. Josh snapped off a nineteen

819
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 4: yard run down inside the ten. And that was the

820
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 4: game that Skyler Thompson quarterbacked for the Fins.

821
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: He did I thought to have played, to have played

822
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: that game.

823
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 3: He was two. It was seventeen at thirty.

824
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen wasn't great.

825
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: He wasn't Yeah, he wasn't great.

826
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: He was a little off.

827
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: It was cold.

828
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, the weather goes both ways. Maybe

829
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: it helped the Bills in that game, and the heat

830
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: obviously helped the Dolphins in the Week three games. So

831
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: make of it what you will. Weather won't be a factor.

832
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: This week's supposed to be seventy three and Sonny, but

833
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: we want to know you let us know where do

834
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: your emotions lean for this game between the Bills and Dolphins.

835
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: More worried about the Dolphins offense or more confident in

836
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: the Bills defense. We got more calls to get to

837
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: when we come back here on one Bill's Live, Stay tuned.

838
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: Ticketmaster is the presenting sponsor of the Buffalo Bills twenty

839
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:23,120
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840
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Let's get right back to the phones at eight O

841
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty and to Ron out in califourn

842
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: I A. How are we doing? Ron?

843
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 10: Hello, thank you for taking my call. Sure, great show.

844
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 10: I'm leaning towards defense. I'll tell you why. Uh correct

845
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 10: me if I'm wrong, But you know, I don't think

846
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 10: Miami's faced. Our defense in a couple of years haven't

847
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 10: been healthy, and they're healthy now. And not only that

848
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 10: with our past rush and you know a front, a

849
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 10: front line and also the middle linebacking combination that we have,

850
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 10: it's just, uh, you know, they might have a sash

851
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 10: splash play here and there against us with the long fields,

852
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 10: but I believe within the anything under the fifty yard line,

853
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 10: it's going to be tough to score against and I

854
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 10: see actually a field goal game. And I'll tell you why.

855
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 10: This is a division game. They're not going to put

856
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 10: no seventy points on We're not putting seventy on them.

857
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 10: They're not putting seventy on us. This is a divisional rivalry.

858
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 10: And I believe my memory goes back to the Super

859
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 10: Bowl with the Giants. You know, we had a high

860
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 10: scoring offense, and how did they handle us? Well, they

861
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 10: basically ran the ball and a up to clock. I

862
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 10: remember that, and I think this is how you handle

863
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 10: a team like this, you know, And this is where

864
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 10: our ground game comes in. They're not used to a

865
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 10: good ground game either from us. So I think we

866
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 10: have a lot of positives going into this game. I'd

867
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 10: like to know how you feel.

868
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a lot of your points are on,

869
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: particularly the one about the defense. People forget back in

870
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: week three that the Bills didn't have five starters on

871
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: defense and no Mitch morson that game in Week three

872
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: and then proceeded to lose five more people where they

873
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: didn't literally had Tommy Doyle playing on a torn acl

874
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: at right guard because they didn't have anybody else to

875
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: put out there otherwise we'd have to throw a tight

876
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Speaker 1: end out there or somebody to play offensive line. And defensively,

877
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: you didn't have Micah Hyde who was already lost for

878
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: the season, Tredevious White was still out on an ACL

879
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: repair you know, rehab whatever, and you were missing three

880
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: other starters on the defensive side of the ball. So yeah,

881
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: and Steve and I have been talking about this all

882
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Speaker 1: off season. The roster this year for the Bills is

883
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: more talented and deeper than it was last year on

884
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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball.

885
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. The Bill's defense is playing really well

886
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: right now. And you're right.

887
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Speaker 4: The basic premise when you've got out a team that

888
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 4: can really ring it up the way that Dolphins can.

889
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: They could do it last year too, is you play

890
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: complimentary football. Certainly, you take big plays if you can

891
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: get them offensively for the Bills, but also the Dolphins

892
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: are twenty fourth against the run, and they've been playing

893
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Speaker 4: teams that have been airing it out on them. I mean,

894
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: Brownie was talking about because he went back and he

895
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Speaker 4: made the point, and he's right.

896
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Speaker 1: All these teams are throwing on him to try to

897
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Speaker 1: get back in the game.

898
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Speaker 4: Yeah, teams were airing it out trying to get back

899
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Speaker 4: in the game. Yur doing that.

900
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: They still can't. They haven't stopped the run at all.

901
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 4: They're twenty fourth against the run when you would think

902
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: nobody's even trying to run on them. So there is

903
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 4: reason for optimism for the Bills offense to be able

904
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Speaker 4: to hang in there.

905
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: Anyway. And we talked about this game last.

906
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Speaker 4: Week, the too A game in week fourteen of twenty

907
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: twenty two. It was a Bills thirty two Dolphins twenty

908
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: nine two against Josh. Josh was twenty five of forty

909
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: for three or four tds, no interceptions.

910
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: He ran for one too, and he ran for one.

911
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 4: And Tua was seventeen to thirty for two thirty four

912
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: two tds, no interception. He had a one o four

913
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Speaker 4: rating and it was twenty nine thirty two in the Bills.

914
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 4: It was twenty nine to twenty nine. The Bills kicked

915
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 4: a field goal at the end to win it. I

916
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: expect this kind of to be that kind of game. Yeah,

917
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be. It's gonna be right there, yep,

918
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Speaker 4: for both these clubs.

919
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Speaker 1: And you made some good points though, Ron, I think

920
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: you're right. I think you're bang On. I think it

921
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Speaker 1: will be a relatively close game, and the odds makers

922
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: feel the same way. What's the spread? Two and a

923
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: half points? So yeah, you're not alone. I think there

924
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: will be a lot of elements to that. Oh it's

925
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Speaker 1: three now, Okay, it was two and a half at

926
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Speaker 1: the beginning of the week for Bills Bill's favorite home favorite,

927
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Speaker 1: which which is basically a pick them.

928
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Speaker 3: It's a pick them game.

929
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Speaker 1: Let's go to market Orchard Park here before the break?

930
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: What do you got Mark?

931
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Speaker 10: Hey?

932
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Speaker 5: How are you Chris? How are you Steve?

933
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Speaker 8: What I'm talking about is the I think this is

934
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Speaker 8: it's gonna be a slug fest and there's no doubt

935
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Speaker 8: about it. It's gonna come down to, I think some coaching.

936
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 8: But when you look at all the factors of how

937
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 8: the Bills are transitioning from last year to this year. Yes,

938
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 8: we lost against the Jets, but that wasn't like uh,

939
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 8: Sean McDermott said, there's sixteen more games to go, and

940
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 8: you see.

941
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Speaker 5: What he is building.

942
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 8: I feel he's got us on the right, you know direction.

943
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 8: But it's gonna matter about us not having injuries. And

944
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 8: I love the idea of putting Josh Allen under center,

945
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 8: because now it's opening up that whole offensive, you know, Lane,

946
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Speaker 8: So I'm gonna let you go with that, all.

947
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Speaker 1: Right, Thanks Mark? Yeah, I mean I think it is

948
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: going to be a fascinating discussion and we'll probably get

949
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: into it more tomorrow. This is literally the head coaches

950
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: going head to head. It's Mike McDaniel and his offense

951
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: against Sean McDermott and his defense, and both head coaches

952
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: are calling it. So you really are gonna watch, probably

953
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: for the first time in a while, two head coaches

954
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: literally match wits in their areas of strength on Sunday.

955
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Speaker 1: I think it's the most intriguing matchup of the entire game,

956
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: and they're not even on the field. That one has

957
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: my attention most of all. We'll talk more about this

958
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: game in our number two with a guy who can

959
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Speaker 1: dice up the x'es and o's for us better than anybody.

960
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Speaker 1: It's ESPN's NFL analyst Dan Orlovski making his weekly appearance

961
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Speaker 1: with us here on One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: today at five hundred Pearl Buffalo dot Com. All right, Dan,

971
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Speaker 1: we're gonna put a bow on the Week three game

972
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Speaker 1: against Washington. You know, and I know you're always dicing

973
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: the offensive tape, but the Bills defensive performance on Sunday

974
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: made Sam Howell look like all the other young quarterbacks

975
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: that seem to face a Sean McDermott defense and they

976
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Speaker 1: don't farewell. Three touchdowns, twenty interceptions in nine games, and

977
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Speaker 1: a passer rating of forty four, and you know, Howell

978
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Speaker 1: had five turnovers. It was it was not a pretty scene. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I think the big thing was they did a really

980
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 12: good job of like winning first downs, you know, and

981
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 12: part of that was I think I said this in

982
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 12: the Raiders game, with their defense, how dominant it felt

983
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Speaker 12: Ed Oliver played.

984
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Speaker 9: Especially on early downs. And it's it's really interesting.

985
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 13: Because if you know, I look at Buffalo's defense and

986
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Speaker 13: I've said this every single time I'm on defense, and

987
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 13: I've said, you cannot judge them until Vaughn comes back.

988
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 13: And the more that I've watched ed play internally this year,

989
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 13: you sit there and go, if they get that at

990
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 13: Oliver on a relatively consistent base on earth basis on

991
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 13: early downs and Vaughan comes back, that's going.

992
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 9: To be huge.

993
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 13: So you know, getting in those early down successful situations

994
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 13: to allow some of that zone coverage to be a

995
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 13: big part of the plan and allow that pass rush.

996
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 9: To kind of be an integral thing. You know, Bernard

997
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 9: is doing a really good job in coverage.

998
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 13: You can make the case that they have the best

999
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 13: are certainly one of the best pass covering linebacker duos

1000
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 13: and football.

1001
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 9: And I think everyone knows my feelings on the run.

1002
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 13: Defense when it comes to those two guys and where

1003
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 13: they're vulnerable and or susceptible in that regard, But pass

1004
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 13: coverage wise, you know, those guys are doing such a

1005
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 13: good job of playing off each other, and so Tradavius's

1006
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 13: interception was fantastic as well, just the athletic play to

1007
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 13: jump over the back. So you know, if that defense

1008
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 13: can win consistently on early downs and then some of

1009
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 13: those simulated pressures that they're kind of picking or the

1010
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 13: fire zones that.

1011
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 9: They're playing with.

1012
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 13: You know, it's it's only going to help their offense

1013
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 13: try to get as many kind of possessions as possible.

1014
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: We talked about this game that happened last week last year,

1015
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 4: Week fourteen, So it was late in the year and

1016
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: it was before the Demorrow Hamlin incident in Cincinnati, so

1017
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: both these teams were kind of you knew their identity

1018
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: and what they were going to look like. It turns

1019
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: out to be a twenty nine to twenty nine game.

1020
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 4: Bills get the ball, go down and kick a field

1021
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 4: goal thirty two to twenty nine to win it at

1022
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: the end. That's kind of what I expect in this one.

1023
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: Hard to keep both clubs off the scoreboard to a

1024
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: great degree, but it's I think this is going to

1025
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: be a division game that kind of comes down to it.

1026
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of what I'm looking at.

1027
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, certainly two of the best teams in football,

1028
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 13: you know, having the opportunity to play against each other.

1029
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 13: The way I look at this one, Steve is first

1030
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 13: of all, when the Bills have the ball, on offense.

1031
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 9: The reality is this, They.

1032
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 13: Are the best pass play action pass offense in football.

1033
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 13: And last week they went and brought six offensive linemen

1034
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 13: in and they ran play action pass and I think

1035
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 13: that does wonders for everybody on their offense.

1036
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 9: And so I think the.

1037
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 13: More that they are willing to do that and willing

1038
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 13: to try to kind of control some of the pressures

1039
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 13: that Miami's defense is going to bring is going to

1040
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 13: be a huge story. You know, Vic Fangio is bringing

1041
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 13: pressures all over the place right now for Miami's defense.

1042
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 13: You see double corners coming on first down, double corners

1043
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 13: on first down, So you know, like, the more that

1044
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 13: you could put a quarterback under center and have you know,

1045
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 13: a couple more people at least initially of the play

1046
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 13: in the protection plan, the more comfortable you feel as

1047
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 13: a guy, Like the more that Josh can get to

1048
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 13: the line of scrimmage and be like, I don't have

1049
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 13: to know exactly what the protection issue is because we

1050
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 13: got seven for seven and those guys will It may

1051
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 13: not be perfect every time, but we got a guy

1052
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 13: for a guy type of thing.

1053
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 9: Instead of standing there and try to analyze everything, so.

1054
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 13: You guys know, I've been so outspoken about putting him

1055
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 13: under center and play action. So not only just Josh's performance,

1056
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 13: but I think everybody's to be able to handle some

1057
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 13: of the early down kind of unique pressures that Vic

1058
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 13: will bring. The second thing is Josh, more than likely

1059
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 13: four times in this.

1060
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 9: Game is going to get all out blitz.

1061
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 13: It's gonna come, and who wins those three or four

1062
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 13: snaps is going to determine in great deal kind of

1063
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 13: who wins the game. Because if Miami kind of like

1064
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 13: what happened in Cincinnati with Money Night football, if Miami

1065
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 13: pitches a shutout that you're stuck as an offense, and

1066
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 13: if you hurt him, you got a great advantage. And

1067
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Speaker 13: then I think for the Bills defense, well, I have

1068
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 13: a ton of respect for our just talked about. I

1069
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 13: think they're phenomenal. Right now, Miami's offense is almost.

1070
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 9: Impossible to stop.

1071
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: In my eyes, I.

1072
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Speaker 13: Don't you can't play man because of the vertical speed

1073
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 13: and the way they motion and get tired running full speed.

1074
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 13: It scares you to death. And you can't play zone

1075
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 13: because what they do. Guys, And I'm going on a

1076
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 13: long time here, but I want to kind of paint

1077
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 13: the picture for everybody. I want everyone to like think

1078
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 13: of an accordion, right, the vertical speed. You have to

1079
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 13: play deep as the top end of your defense, like

1080
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 13: your secondary, your safeties, they have to play a little

1081
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 13: bit abnormally.

1082
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 9: Deep because of that speed.

1083
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 13: And so now this accordion is kind of like stretched

1084
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 13: out before the ball ever.

1085
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 9: Really gets snapped.

1086
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 13: And then they give the second level of defenders Milano

1087
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 13: and Bernard and the Tarren Johnson.

1088
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 9: They give those second level guys so much.

1089
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 13: To see both horizontally with the motions or a guy

1090
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 13: coming across the formation after the snap, and vertically when

1091
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 13: it comes to like okay, ballfake at me. That those guys,

1092
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 13: like if you watch the Broncos defense, on run plays

1093
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 13: so often they they were going backwards and on past.

1094
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 9: Plays so often they were staying.

1095
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 13: Still, and that's how they create some of those massive

1096
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 13: gaps in kind of like that second to third level

1097
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 13: of your defense, that twenty yard world.

1098
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 9: And I think it's.

1099
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 13: A really difficult defense offense to even like philosophically have

1100
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 13: a plan for.

1101
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And even coach McDermott, who was only beginning to

1102
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: dive into the film yesterday when he addressed the media

1103
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: called the Dolphins offense revolutionary, which I thought was a

1104
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: very very complimentary description for Mike McDaniel. And it is

1105
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: going to be interesting because it is quite literally Mike

1106
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: McDaniel and Sean McDermott going head to head in this

1107
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: game offense versus defense in terms of two play callers

1108
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: that have been very good at what they do. You mentioned,

1109
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, possibly blitzing Allen. Josh is no stranger to

1110
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: getting blitzed by Dolphins defense. Is the previous coordinator probably

1111
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: did it too much. Josh makes you pay you blitz Josh.

1112
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: It's a mistake. History has proven that. And his passer

1113
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: rating is through the roof when you bring pressure on him.

1114
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: So okay, it might be, you know, with some measure

1115
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: of you know, trying to be balanced in what they

1116
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: want to do defensively. I'm talking about Miami here. I'm

1117
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: curious because I haven't gotten through the whole Denver game yet, Dan,

1118
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Russell Wilson throws

1119
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: for three hundred yards, they get two touchdowns nullified by penalties.

1120
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: They've got five plays of forty yards or more. Three

1121
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: of them are runs that the Dolphins have against this

1122
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: Denver defense. I'm feeling a whole lot better about, you know,

1123
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo's defense in this thing, knowing how they have been

1124
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: able to neutralize opponents rushing attacks the last couple of

1125
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: weeks to get them in favorable down and distance to

1126
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: go hunt the quarterback. So I don't know. I know,

1127
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: Toya gets it out so fast you rarely get hands

1128
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 1: on him. Anyway, I don't know. It's kind of hard

1129
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: to project because the Bills defense hasn't played great quarterbacks

1130
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: the first three weeks, and by the same token, Miami

1131
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: hasn't played great defenses maybe with the exception of New

1132
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: England the first three weeks. So it's kind of I'm

1133
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: trying to get a gauge on this and I'm having

1134
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: a tough time with it.

1135
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 13: I would say this about so for Buffalo's offense, Miami's

1136
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 13: defense has not been super impressive. I agree with you

1137
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 13: kind of watching the Denver game, everyone you know on

1138
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 13: TV right now is talking about the Broncos and oh

1139
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 13: my gosh, Russell Wilson. They easily should have scored thirty

1140
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 13: five to forty points against Miami's defense.

1141
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: Easily.

1142
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 9: I think Miami's defense is in this world Chris, how

1143
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 9: many like they're all kind.

1144
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 13: Of okay at least, I don't want to say it

1145
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 13: in the way that they're okay getting scored against. I

1146
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 13: think their belief is like how many different they're just

1147
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 13: trying to gain possessions for their offense. They don't really care,

1148
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 13: they're trying to just how many different times are they

1149
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 13: they get capable of getting the ball back for two?

1150
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 9: It because the offense right now.

1151
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 13: Is so explosive, and so I do think that Buffalo's

1152
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 13: offense absolutely can have success, but only if they remember

1153
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 13: kind of what they've done over the past two weeks

1154
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 13: and kind of the way that they've attacked defenses. Buffalo's

1155
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 13: defense is going to be challenged in ways that they

1156
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 13: have not.

1157
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 9: By far off season right, but are with the motions

1158
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 9: and the formations.

1159
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 13: It starts very simply with this, guys, how do they

1160
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 13: handle twenty one personnel, two back, one tight end? Because

1161
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 13: alec Ingold And remember I told you, guys, the Raiders

1162
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 13: got into twenty one and they got into it just

1163
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 13: like run they don't.

1164
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 9: The Dolphins get into twenty one and it.

1165
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 13: Looks like ten where it's almost four wide receivers out

1166
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 13: there or they'll get into twenty one and they're all

1167
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 13: in these crazy formations, emotions and almost like watching Canadian

1168
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 13: football leagues sometimes with some of the stuff that's going on.

1169
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 13: So just how they're going to handle some of the

1170
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 13: kind of unique formations in personnel groupings and how they're

1171
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 13: presented to the defense. They haven't been challenged that way.

1172
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 13: As much as I have a ton of respect for them,

1173
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 13: they haven't.

1174
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: Right, So let me follow up on that. Do you

1175
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: think there is so knowing it's almost impossible to stop it,

1176
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: is there a way for an opposing defense, whether it

1177
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: be the Bills or anybody else, to come up with

1178
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: a way to, at least for part of the game

1179
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: dictate play to Miami with some kind of package, or

1180
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: if you get them in a down and distance you

1181
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: can do this. I'm not asking you for an answer,

1182
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: per se. I'm just asking is there an answer out

1183
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: there where a defense, maybe even for a series or two,

1184
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: dictate to them and at least get a couple of

1185
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: punts off of them, if you know what I'm saying.

1186
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, So New England did a good job. They did,

1187
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 9: you know what?

1188
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 13: Now, Christian Gonzalez, the corner for them, played fantastic in

1189
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 13: man coverage, and they very early down try to double

1190
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 13: Tyreek Hill and said, well, Tyreek's not going to get

1191
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 13: the football and they try to put hands on him

1192
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 13: at the line of scrimmage. Now, that allowed Mike McDaniel

1193
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 13: to adjust in that football game and run the football

1194
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 13: a little bit. New England at times put six guys

1195
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 13: up at the line of scrimmage to.

1196
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 9: Try to discourage some of the quick passing.

1197
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 13: You know, Miami has this one play that they run

1198
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 13: like one hundred and twenty seven times where like those

1199
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 13: stack receivers and the motion inside out full speed, and

1200
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 13: you know, Tua just kind of reads the n man

1201
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 13: on the line of scrimmage and if he goes with

1202
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 13: the motion, he'll throw a little slot hitch, or he'll

1203
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 13: hand the football off, or if the guy stays inside,

1204
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 13: he'll kick it out to the.

1205
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,479
Speaker 9: Sideline right now.

1206
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 13: So New England kind of got caught in between there

1207
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 13: a little bit because they were stacking the line so

1208
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 13: much that horizontally they got spread out.

1209
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 9: I think like probably the two.

1210
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 13: Things is really if you go back and watch the

1211
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 13: Chargers defense last year, and I believe it was on

1212
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 13: Monday Night Football, it might have been Sunday night football.

1213
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 13: But the Chargers defense did everything. They set inside leverage

1214
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 13: on basically every pass concept in man and back hip,

1215
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 13: and it was the dare of over the course of

1216
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 13: the four quarters, are you going to throw the ball

1217
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 13: down the field and outside to perfect locations?

1218
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 9: And I think that's really difficult to do with some

1219
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 9: of the formations and motions.

1220
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 13: But that's the one defense in the last it feels

1221
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 13: like ten games against Miami that has had some type

1222
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 13: of success.

1223
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 4: Whenever we start talking about these offenses and you know

1224
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 4: how prolific they are, and we see them once in

1225
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 4: a while where a team gets hot and man, nobody

1226
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 4: can stop them. And then you start having conversations like

1227
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 4: this where the Bills in order to beat a team

1228
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: like the Dolphins, or anybody to beat a team like

1229
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 4: the Dolphins, you need help. The defense needs help from

1230
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: their offense. You know, the ball eight minute drives, be efficient,

1231
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 4: score when you get the chance, don't punt the ball

1232
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 4: too often, don't turn it over you know what I mean,

1233
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 4: take take all the time you can't and just limit

1234
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 4: their possessions. And I mean that's like from the word go,

1235
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 4: and that's kind of been as kind of stereotypically where

1236
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 4: we get with these conversations. When you have an offense

1237
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 4: it scores, you know, sixty or seventy points, you start thinking, listen,

1238
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 4: if we want to beat them, we can't give them

1239
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: the ball that much.

1240
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was that's like the fascinating kind of I

1241
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 13: guess back and forth with this game, Steve is. So

1242
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 13: it's one of those games where you probably lean on

1243
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 13: maybe being a little bit aggressive on some fourth downs

1244
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 13: for sure, and it brings a conversation a little bit

1245
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 13: back to Josh. This is one of those games where

1246
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 13: you do expect Josh to be very aggressive with the football,

1247
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 13: and you do, and you can understand unless the game

1248
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 13: does and play to a certain style in an unexpected style.

1249
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 13: But remember like last week when he kind of rolls

1250
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 13: out to his right and he throws that bomb down

1251
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 13: the right sideline and it's per I think it was the.

1252
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 9: Gabe Davis like crossing the field. You're gonna need some.

1253
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 13: Of that wow stuff, like you're in comparison to week

1254
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 13: one when it was such a like the like the

1255
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 13: why are you doing that decision making wise? When they

1256
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 13: you know they can't score on our defense right now,

1257
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 13: it's not that feel for this game. And this is

1258
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 13: one of those games where Josh is more than likely

1259
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 13: going to have to do some wow stuff and there's

1260
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 13: gonna be some places where everyone goes no, no, no, no, no, no,

1261
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 13: oh yeah, do that, you know, And it's one of

1262
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 13: those games where you're gonna have to live with that.

1263
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 9: It's different than Week one.

1264
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 13: This is this does fall under the umbrella for me

1265
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 13: of like, Okay, you know you're gonna have to score

1266
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 13: thirty plus at least to win this game likely, you know.

1267
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 13: So this is where you sit there and go, well,

1268
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 13: Josh makes one really like what the heck are you doing?

1269
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 9: Play and it hurts.

1270
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 13: Our football team, but it gives us four of like,

1271
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 13: oh my gosh, you're the only guy in the league

1272
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 13: that could do that.

1273
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 9: This is one of those games where you just live.

1274
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 13: With that one or two boneheaded mistakes or like you

1275
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 13: can't do those because he's gonna need four or five splashes.

1276
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he did in Week fourteen last year.

1277
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: They're down eleven with seven minutes left and he basically

1278
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: puts the Cape on and wins the game for him. Yeah,

1279
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: look at looking I'm eager to dive a little bit

1280
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: more into the Fangio defense. Dan, you touched on it

1281
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: already saying that you know there are some times where

1282
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: they will be unusually aggressive. Is there anything else that

1283
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: sticks out through three weeks from that side of the

1284
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: football for them? I know Van Ginkel is playing inside

1285
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: more now. He used to be more of an outside

1286
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: backer for them, and he's in the middle, presumably to

1287
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: add some more speed in there at the second level,

1288
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: because they've been notoriously slow and victimized in there by teams,

1289
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: not just the Bills, but other teams over the last

1290
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: couple of years. Is there a soft underbelly here to

1291
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: the Dolphins defense that you see to this point.

1292
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 13: I do think they have a favorable matchup with the

1293
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 13: tight ends in this game. I feel like I say

1294
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 13: that on a consistent basis, but I believe it to

1295
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 13: be true again this week because I don't think that

1296
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 13: that is now. The challenge with VIC and the way

1297
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 13: that the Dolphins defense is playing is VIC doesn't give

1298
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 13: you easy completions, and it's not in the aspect of

1299
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 13: like the Jets are different like the Jets.

1300
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 9: The Jets don't give you. The Jets will give you

1301
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 9: like three yard completions, four yard completions. They won't give

1302
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 9: you the ten yard completions.

1303
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 13: The Dolphins under Vic and with some of the personnel

1304
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 13: that they have right now, they're not giving you. They're

1305
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 13: trying to not give you anything. You know, they're trying

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Speaker 13: to take away very much. So the easy throws and

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Speaker 13: challenge you to make the difficult ones.

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Speaker 9: They don't want to give.

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Speaker 13: You three yard They're going to try to play very

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Speaker 13: close close to the shallow or kind of shorter completions

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01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 13: and force you to kind of hold the football and

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Speaker 13: throw it downfield and allow the safeties at Javon Holland

1313
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Speaker 13: to try to have vision downhill. And so I think

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Speaker 13: the challenge for the past game with Buffalo is going

1315
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Speaker 13: to be in the dropback world. I'm not talking about

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01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 13: the play action world, and the dropback world is you

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Speaker 13: know how quickly indecisive Josh is going to be with the.

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Speaker 9: Twelve to fifteen yard throws.

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Speaker 13: And then the placement in relation to where the defender

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Speaker 13: is is going to be huge because the defenders will

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Speaker 13: be close. Like these guys do a really good job

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Speaker 13: in matching past concepts and playing the proper leverages. The

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01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 13: placement of the throat in relation to where Miami's defenders are.

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Speaker 13: That's going to be a big story for this weekend's

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Speaker 13: game two.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So this as this season rolls out and we're three

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01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 4: weeks in, and you know, you always think maybe a

1329
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 4: month in we'll start to find out who these teams are.

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Speaker 4: There's maybe maybe three or four teams, maybe three at

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 4: least they really don't like who they are right now, Denver, Chicago, Arizona.

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Speaker 4: These teams that are, you know, they kind of they're

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Speaker 4: not who they thought they were going to be. They're

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Speaker 4: particularly Denver on a week like this has got to be,

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Speaker 4: you know, on suicide watch. I mean it's rough, it's

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Speaker 4: really rough. What are your thoughts about this first three

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Speaker 4: weeks of the season and how it's played out for you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know if it's all that surprising.

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Speaker 13: I think that the teams that we thought were I

1340
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Speaker 13: guess that some of the surprising things for the early

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Speaker 13: part of the season is I think New England is

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Speaker 13: a very solid football team.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 9: If New England had any.

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Speaker 13: Type of a vertical threat at all, I think they'd

1346
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 13: be a playoff team because of the way that their

1347
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 13: offense is efficient, and the way their defense can get

1348
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 13: after you, and the way their coverage is really good.

1349
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 13: I think if you look at Cincinnati, I called Monday

1350
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 13: Night Football last night with them, they everyone I feel

1351
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 13: is not everyone like writing them off. They are going

1352
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 13: to be very much so in the mix at the end.

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01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 13: They just got to try and survive the next three

1354
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 13: or four weeks with the style of offense they have

1355
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 13: to play in Joe kind of being with the calf.

1356
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 13: But they are going to be very much so right

1357
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 13: where they have been for the past couple of years.

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Speaker 3: I think the.

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Speaker 9: Chiefs defense has been a surprise. You know how young

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Speaker 9: they are.

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Speaker 13: They are carrying the football team a little bit right

1362
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 13: now as this offense try to figure out who they

1363
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 13: are outside of some of the pieces that have been

1364
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 13: departed over the last two years. Jacksonville I think is

1365
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Speaker 13: going to be okay. I thought last week it was

1366
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 13: just to shoot yourself in the foot situation for them.

1367
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Speaker 13: I do believe that they're going to be okay. Ind

1368
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 13: these defense, their pass rushers are a lot better than

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Speaker 13: I thought they were going to be. So that's a

1370
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 13: little bit part of that conversation. You know, Baltimore not

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01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 13: much of the NFC kind of impacts the AFC right now.

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Speaker 4: But talk a little bit about Baltimore, you think from

1373
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: Lamar and how that's going over there a lot of injuries.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Baltimore is a tough gauge right now because of

1375
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 13: those injuries. You know, if I took the left tackle

1376
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 13: for a ton of teams in the NFL and he

1377
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 13: doesn't play, it's gonna have a negative impact on their offense.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 9: So Ronnie Stanley's got to play, and until he does.

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Speaker 13: That, there's this there's this like question mark about who

1381
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 13: Baltimore is consistently. You know, when you watch them play,

1382
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 13: everyone is saying like, it looks like the same offense

1383
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 13: under Greg Roman. I would disagree with that. I think

1384
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 13: they're just still finding their footing. You know, there's to

1385
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 13: consistently get the pass game to be at the same

1386
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 13: time in the same field. There's multiple times where like

1387
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 13: Lamar goes to throw the ball to a player like

1388
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 13: a Zay Flowers and Zay takes two steps in and

1389
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 13: Lamar throws it where he expects him to be. So

1390
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Speaker 13: it's it's gonna take another I said it would take

1391
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 13: four to six weeks for them to really get the

1392
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 13: feel of the timing and the understanding of the past game.

1393
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 13: And there's moments where it is and moments where it isn't.

1394
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Speaker 13: So I still think that offense is going to be

1395
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 13: very explosive as long as they get healthy on their front.

1396
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Speaker 9: Their defense is like the concern for me because I

1397
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 9: don't know. I don't know if I have a high.

1398
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 13: End belief in the perimeter cover people, you know, and

1399
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 13: that's when in this conference, you guys know like you

1400
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 13: got to be able to stop passing games, and I

1401
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 13: don't know if I have a ton of belief in

1402
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 13: Baltimore or in that regard right now.

1403
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: Dan, thanks as always, appreciate the insight. We'll catch up

1404
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: with you next week. This's gonna be a good one.

1405
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 9: Appreciate you, Thanks too much, guys.

1406
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: All right, that's Dan Orlowski joining us ESPN NFL analyst

1407
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I was watching some of the tape

1408
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 1: from last week's Denver Miami game and what he's talking

1409
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: about as one hundred percent true. I have never seen

1410
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: a defensive back giving a ten yard cushion and bailing

1411
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: as quickly as they do when they're lined up opposite Tyreek.

1412
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: The guy's given Tyreek a ten yard cushion. He takes

1413
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: two steps back in his pedal. Tyreek's running straight at

1414
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: him for three steps, and he's bailing on the third

1415
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: step that Tyreek makes and he's still eight yards away

1416
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 1: from him. I don't know if I've ever seen that,

1417
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: maybe against Randy Moss maybe, but I was like, Oh

1418
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: my god, the guy's bailing and the guy's still eight yards.

1419
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: Away from him.

1420
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: How slow is this guy? Yeah, he's this worried. I

1421
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. And Tyreek ended up taking the route

1422
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: across the field anyway, so it didn't really matter. It

1423
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: was like a post pattern and they were playing cover three.

1424
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: They were just playing three deep zone. But I was

1425
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, he's bailing already. I don't

1426
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen that.

1427
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 3: I think that's what you get into a game.

1428
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 4: And it's like you say, you see these guys play

1429
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 4: on film, then you get out there and see him

1430
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 4: live and in person.

1431
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, yeah.

1432
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to be that guy, and ironically doing

1433
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 4: that makes you that guy. Yeah, you know you've got

1434
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 4: to I think these guys underestimate. Certainly, Tyreek can outrun him,

1435
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 4: but he's not going to leave him in the dust

1436
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 4: after three steps. You've got to play aggressive on him

1437
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 4: and see if you can get into him and alter

1438
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 4: their route. And I think one of the things that

1439
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 4: DB's do against faster guys, if you can stay on

1440
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 4: top of them, you got to make them you got

1441
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: to cut their path that they want to go off,

1442
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 4: Like if they want to go past, you make him

1443
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 4: choose a side and do it as late as they can,

1444
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 4: because the ball's got.

1445
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: To leave to his hand early.

1446
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 4: And if you make him cut inside when he was

1447
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 4: thinking he was going to go outside, you know the

1448
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 4: ball's inaccurate.

1449
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 3: You can't do it.

1450
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 4: You got to stay on top of him and force

1451
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 4: him to run around you to get deep.

1452
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: But what McDaniel does to neutralize that approach is he

1453
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,839
Speaker 1: puts him in motion. Sure he comes across the formation

1454
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: they call the snap, and he just he just kind

1455
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 1: of bends the route up the field. He's he's almost

1456
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: full speed already and he just bends the route upfield

1457
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: and you're going backwards. You don't have a chance. And

1458
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: that's why he's dropping those balls in outside the numbers

1459
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: to some degree too, because Dan mentioned The game plan

1460
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: that Brandon Staley had against them and the Chargers game

1461
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 1: last year was brilliant. He shut off the middle of

1462
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: the field to it where he likes to do most

1463
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: of his work and gets the majority of his completions,

1464
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 1: and they couldn't make the adjustment in time and lost

1465
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: that football game. Well week won this year. McDaniel, expecting that,

1466
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,480
Speaker 1: had an answer, and he ran condensed formations with receivers

1467
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: stacked tight to the line of script, tight to the formation,

1468
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: and then he just ran one guy outside if they

1469
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: were overplaying the inside, and usually it was Tyreek, and

1470
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: Tyreek had nothing but green grass out there to exploit

1471
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill with twenty yards a width and eighty

1472
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: yards of depth. Yeah you don't want that.

1473
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to you got it. Because here's the thing.

1474
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 4: If, like I said, if you stay on top of him, yeah, okay,

1475
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 4: he just stops, turns around and you're by that You're

1476
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 4: seven or eight yards away into it.

1477
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 1: Just now he has the ball in space.

1478
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is even worse to lobs the ball out

1479
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 4: there any stand by himself until you can get stopped

1480
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 4: and turn around, go back and get him. It's it's

1481
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 4: a really it's it's a problem.

1482
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big problem. It's a big, big problem.

1483
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how the Bills are going

1484
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: to approach this thing and how much that plan morphs

1485
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: and changes through the course of the game, because you know,

1486
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,879
Speaker 1: you can't, even if you have a good early solution

1487
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: kind of slow them down. You know you're gonna have

1488
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: to change that because McDaniel will make changes during the

1489
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: course of the game as well. All right, break time

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1494
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,160
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1495
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Speaker 1: more imbalanced now fifty six forty four or so, but

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01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the tweet sheeet now brought to

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01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving system

1521
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, and Brian leans off by saying,

1522
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: I was worried until I watched the highlights and saw

1523
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: the kind of effort the Broncos were giving. Safe to say,

1524
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: regardless of how Sunday turns out, that it won't look

1525
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: like that this week. Yeah, you're not alone in that opinion.

1526
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that were actually at

1527
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 1: that game, reporters and the like, who said, oh man,

1528
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: Denver really didn't have much to offer there in the

1529
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: second half in particular, and who knows what's going on

1530
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: behind closed doors there in Denver. We Hear also reports

1531
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: that people aren't thrilled with Sean Payton's my way or

1532
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: the highway approach that he's taken as the new head

1533
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: coach of the Broncos. Vance Joseph is the defensive coordinator.

1534
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: He's in a bunch of hot water now after that

1535
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 1: kind of performance. So maybe there are more things that

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: play there with Denver and how their season has gone,

1537
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: as they have not yet won a football game. But yeah,

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01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: I would expect a much better performance out of the

1539
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills than we saw from the Denver Broncos last week.

1540
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: My goodness.

1541
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, Denver That's just not the way Buffalo rolled

1542
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 4: right out of the gate. That the play we're just

1543
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,919
Speaker 4: looking at. Tyreek Hill goes in for the first touchdown

1544
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: of the game, and Denver had complete blown coverage and

1545
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 4: lack of discipline from their safeties. That won safety grabs

1546
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 4: a crossing rounde and jumps down on a crossing route

1547
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 4: and leaves Tyreek Hill by himself.

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01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: The tackling is awful. Am I wrong about this? This

1549
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: tackling is horrendous. And we're watching some of the highlights

1550
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: for some of our radio listeners, our MSGU viewers have

1551
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: seen some of the highlights from last week's Dolphins Broncos game.

1552
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: The tackling is atrocious. I mean it's atrocious. Guys dropping

1553
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: their heads, not shooting their hands. I mean, it's it's terrible.

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: My god, is it terrible? Yeah, seventy is an anomala

1555
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: for a reason in this league. Yeah, Allen on the

1556
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,959
Speaker 1: tweets sheet says, I'm a little worried because of the Dolphins'

1557
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: speed on offense. I also am worried about penalties. Like

1558
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the Commander's game, stay focused and

1559
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: keep to the game plan. Yeah, once again, you know

1560
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: you look at the bills thirty seven to three victory.

1561
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: The Bills could have hung a fifty burger on Washington easy.

1562
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: The problem was they weren't super productive on first down,

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01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: put them in a lot of long down and distance situations.

1564
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: And then from time to time, not as numerous as

1565
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: Week one against the Jets, but from time to time

1566
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: they had a you know, an unforced error penalty that

1567
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: put him in long down in distance as well, and

1568
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: it bogged down some of the drives. And that's why

1569
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: they had to settle for field goals early in that

1570
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: game rather than getting it in the end zone for touch.

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01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 4: Well even so, I mean they scored twenty one points

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01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter.

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01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: Yes, the floodgates had broken by that.

1574
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 3: And yet, well, that's what happens in the Denver game.

1575
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 4: We scored you know, fifty or thirty eight or forty

1576
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 4: two on a team in an NFL game, They they're done,

1577
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 4: they've given up, and that's you know. So yeah, in

1578
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 4: that case, if you leave Josh in the game at

1579
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 4: the end, they probably would have hung another one on him.

1580
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 4: So that's the way it goes. Yeah, the Denver game,

1581
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 4: it really did get ugly and ridiculous. I mean, you

1582
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 4: got Skyler Thompson through two passes and.

1583
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: One was a sixty Oh no it was it was

1584
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: Mike White.

1585
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 4: Mike White, I'm sorry, through two passes and one was

1586
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 4: a sixty seven yard touchdown.

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 4: I mean Denver wanted that game to be over, and

1589
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 4: they were willing to. They were willing to let Dolphins

1590
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 4: score to make it happen.

1591
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phone today do three oh

1592
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: five fifty. We go to Ryan in Buffalo next. What

1593
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: do you got for us?

1594
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 3: Ryan?

1595
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 14: Tell you guys doing today?

1596
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 3: Doing great?

1597
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:54,520
Speaker 14: Ryan, Thanks for taking my call. I think that everybody's excited.

1598
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 14: I hope everybody's as excited for this game as I am.

1599
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 14: I think this is a true test to see where

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01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 14: our team is really at at this point in the season.

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01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 14: I think that if we can keep Tyreek Hill and

1602
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 14: check and we get the pressure that our defensive line

1603
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 14: has been shown lately, it's definitely not going to be

1604
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 14: as easy as the Redskins. But I think that if

1605
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 14: we get the pressure on Tua and we're in his

1606
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 14: face every play where he can't sit back and just

1607
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 14: pick us apart with Tyreek Hill, that we have a

1608
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 14: really good shot and making a statement in this game.

1609
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 14: Our running game, the developing running game that we have

1610
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 14: going on right now is amazing. It's something that I

1611
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 14: haven't seen in a long time. And I'm really excited

1612
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 14: for this Bills team because you know, last year, everybody

1613
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,879
Speaker 14: was all on our train and the media was talking

1614
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,839
Speaker 14: good about us, and you know we're Super Bowl favorites

1615
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 14: this or that we never played good. When when that's

1616
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 14: the case, you know, I like being under the radar.

1617
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 14: I like them forgetting the moves that we made know

1618
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 14: in the offseason, and I love this new linebacker that

1619
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 14: we got that played lights out last week. So thanks

1620
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 14: for taking my call, guys, all.

1621
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: Right, sure thing, Ryan, Yeah, you're right about the run game.

1622
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: You know who's third in the league and rushing right now, Steve.

1623
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 3: James Cook.

1624
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: James Cook third in the league and rushing with two

1625
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven yards on the ground, So the

1626
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: only a couple of guys ahead of him. One of

1627
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: them's name McCaffrey. So I think he's doing pretty darn good.

1628
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: And that is a new element to Buffalo's offense that

1629
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: Miami did not see much of last year. And I

1630
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: don't think Miami's offense saw the speed and coverage ability

1631
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: to the level we've seen through the first three weeks

1632
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 1: at the linebacker level for the Bills defense. So there

1633
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: are some differences to what the Bills have typically brought

1634
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: to the table. And I do believe that Sean McDermott

1635
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: is going to come up with some exotic things that

1636
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: TUA has not seen from this defense, which over the

1637
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: past few years kind of sits in nickel and you

1638
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: know what you're getting. I don't know that that's the

1639
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: case anymore with this Buffalo defense. I think there is.

1640
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: It's been the exotic nature of some of the calls

1641
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: here and there are new and they're aggressive, and I'm

1642
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: in favor of them. So anything you do to get

1643
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,480
Speaker 1: to or to pack the ball, even once advantage Buffalo.

1644
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 4: The thing that's different about Buffalo this season is exactly

1645
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 4: what we were hoping would happen, not some only three

1646
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 4: weeks in and they've played haven't played very good teams yet,

1647
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 4: but they're number one in the league in interceptions and

1648
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 4: they're number two in the league in sacks.

1649
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: That is that's great.

1650
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 4: You know, that's where you want to be, and that's

1651
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 4: something they haven't been ranked that highly in in years past.

1652
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: So mcdermoccalls defenses that's typically where it ranks. His caroline

1653
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,520
Speaker 1: of defenses were very high in sacks and takeaways.

1654
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 4: So if you're getting a ton of sacks and a

1655
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 4: ton of takeaways, I don't care if they give up

1656
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 4: you know, four hundred yards offensive game. You're getting sacked

1657
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 4: and getting takeaways.

1658
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 5: So be it.

1659
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 3: We'll take the ball.

1660
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: Back to the phones and to Bill and Ken Moore.

1661
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

1662
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 15: Bill, Yeah, a couple of things. Thanks for the call.

1663
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 15: I'm thinking about this passing of Tua. And you've got

1664
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 15: four guys that are six foot six. If you put

1665
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 15: them there, the four linemen they put their hands up.

1666
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 15: You're talking like seven to eight foot of height. And

1667
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 15: that might be a problem for Tua because he's and

1668
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 15: all of a sudden have to figure out is the

1669
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 15: ball to get deflected or knocked down or maybe he

1670
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 15: can't find his receivers if these guys are coming at him.

1671
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 15: And also getting back to that game last night where

1672
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 15: you had the situation where pears so the Rams lost

1673
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 15: two touchdowns on calls. There was a whistle that was

1674
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 15: done after play became a touchdown and the guy did

1675
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 15: not step out of bounds, and they ruled it was

1676
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 15: out of bounds, and so maybe the Bengals should have

1677
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 15: lost that game as opposed to having won up. So

1678
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 15: it was just my comments.

1679
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were fortunate last night, There's no question about it.

1680
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: And unfortunately we see that somewhere around the league every

1681
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: single week. You're just hoping your team isn't the victim

1682
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: of a call or a non call like that, or

1683
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: lack of an overturn call.

1684
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: Right.

1685
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because that was a tight game throughout the

1686
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: tight game, and you hate to see a call like

1687
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: that alter the outcome.

1688
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 4: I and I'll say this, Joe gutted it out. But

1689
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is not playing like himself, and he.

1690
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: Could only play in shotgun. He can't drop back with

1691
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: that calf.

1692
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 4: I think they're really lucky to be getting through with him. Yeah,

1693
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 4: throwing it like he does. I think it's he's just

1694
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 4: you can tell. There was a couple of times when

1695
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 4: they all they're also the modus operandi for him was

1696
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 4: last night, in my opinion, was if he felt there

1697
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 4: was going to be pressure, if somebody got beaten, there

1698
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 4: was still three yards away, and the normal instinct for

1699
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 4: any of us guys coming at you, you kind of

1700
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 4: step and get out of the way and jump out

1701
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 4: of the way or fake him out or take off running.

1702
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 3: Joe wasn't doing that because he can't. He can't do it.

1703
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 4: He knew he would throw the ball away and it

1704
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 4: forced a lot of incompletions just because he couldn't move

1705
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 4: in the pocket to avoid pressure the way he normally does. Yeah,

1706
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 4: even subtle movement, even subtle movement, it was really a

1707
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 4: problem for him. I think that's gonna manifest itself in

1708
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 4: a negative way for the Bengals, And maybe we don't

1709
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 4: really understand it, maybe he's gonna throw some picks or whatever.

1710
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 4: But last night I think it manifested itself in his

1711
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 4: inability to get easier completions when they had a guy

1712
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 4: when the heat normally would have been able to do it.

1713
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, break time for us here, Steve and I were

1714
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: some final thoughts on the tweet seet when we return

1715
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live.

1716
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: Stay to it.

1717
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: All right, Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet here

1718
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Where we've been asking you all day,

1719
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: which way to your emotions? Lean for the game this week,

1720
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: worried about the Dolphins offense or confident in the Bills defense,

1721
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: And Bill says, this Bill's team has gone on the

1722
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: road to Arrowhead and beaten the Chiefs the past two seasons.

1723
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: They won two of three from Miami last year and

1724
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: should have won all three. Is Miami good?

1725
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: Sure?

1726
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: Do they have a crazy offense? Yes? Do the Bills

1727
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: have an amazing d also, Yes? And the Bills oh

1728
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: is tremendous as well. So Bill's basically saying, hold on

1729
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: a second.

1730
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 4: He sounds like a good game, And that's what I

1731
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 4: think is gonna be. I think it's gonna be a

1732
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 4: game for two good football teams. Certainly either one of

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01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 4: these teams. With the way Josh Allen has played historically

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01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 4: against the Dolphins, you never think this Bills team is

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01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 4: gonna be out of it, and certainly the Dolphins never

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01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 4: think you're gonna outscore them or get ahead by so

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01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 4: far they can never come back. This is gonna be

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01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 4: two teams with their foot on the gas pedal on

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01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball all day. Supposed to be

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01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 4: fantastic weather, and I just think this is the kind

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01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 4: of rake this is really to me the first big

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01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 4: regular season game with a little added meaning playoff seeding,

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01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 4: division lead, all of that is on the line.

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01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 3: I guess it's gonna be awesome.

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01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: Ed says, Sure. Miami crushed Denver, but the other two

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01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,959
Speaker 1: wins came by a combined nine points over San Diego

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01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: and New England. And then finally, Chef says, screwby and worried.

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01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: It's exciting that Miami doesn't stink anymore. It was getting boring.

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01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: They were such an easy target. It's gonna be a

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01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 1: big one and we're just getting started this week. Plenty

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01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: more tomorrow. We'll see it one