1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound On. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: We will win back the House, went back the Senate 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: and re elect Governor Brian Champ for four more years. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: It's something that we have to win. We want to win. 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On Politics, Policy and Perspective from DC's top names. 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Kemp has been telling voters throughout the state that listen, 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: let's focus on what's going on here. The Republican governors 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: met recently in Arizona and said they're tired of this 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: vendetta tour and they're gonna take a position against Bloomberg 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Welcome to 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: Primary Day and the fastest hour in politics, as we 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: explore the issues today driving voters to the polls, from inflation, 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: two jobs, and an important conversation ahead with the man 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: who helped orchestrate Barack Obama's re election, Jim Messina, with 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: us today, the CEO of the Messina Group, and with 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: decision day in Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, and Yes, Texas. Bloomberg 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Elections expert Gregorow is going to join us later on 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: several high profile Trump endorsements on the line Tonight, we 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: have analysis from the sound On panel with Bloomberg Politics 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: contributors Geenie Chanzano and Rick Davis with us for the hour. 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to another primary day. The rallies are over, the 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: closing arguments have been made. Voters right now are deciding 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: on issues. It's a magic moment for any campaign operative 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and a very stressful one depending on the day. As 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Jim Messina would tell you, the former campaign manager for 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: President Obama's re election, former deputy chief of staff in 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: the White House, now CEO of the Messina Group, joins 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: us with his view on the issues and the campaigns 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: that are driving this cycle. Several states in play today, 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: and Jim, thank you for being part of this. You 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: were known as the fixer in the Obama White House. 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Famously a white House that included a man named Joe Biden, 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: with inflation and surging, with the pandemic still underway, a 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: domestic agenda that has been severely challenged, Joe Biden's approval 35 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: ratings depending on where you look, low forties, maybe on 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: a bad day, upper thirties. Democrats, Jim, as you know, 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: are bracing for rough mid terms. How would you tell 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden to fix it. Well, a couple of things. 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: The party in power loses an average of three and 40 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: a half Senate seats from twenty six House seats in 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: the last fifty years, so the Democrats kind of come 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: to this, uh, you know, with some real challenges. And then, 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: as you say, Joe, inflation is now the number one 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: political issue. And so what the President needs to do 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: is stay very focused on making sure voters understand he 46 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: gets the inflation issue, he cares about it, he's working 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: on it, and there's showing progress. And then he needs 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: to draw a very sharp contrast between his party and 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: the Republicans in these mid term elections, because if he doesn't, 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: the mid term elections will be a referendum on the 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: incumbent and usually income at rather than to lose those Well, this, 52 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, follows months in which the administration called inflation transitory. 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: The President now and as advisors are pointing to the 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine and COVID as the drivers and who 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: could have expected the war to breakout? Of course, but Jim, 56 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: people know, but in inflation has been a problem since 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: last year. We were talking about this way before Ukraine. 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: The war made things worse does the administration need to 59 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: acknowledge that? Look, I think what's clear is that, you know, 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: I have twelve presidents and prime ministers around the world 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: is my clients, and everyone is dealing with this issue. 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: It's not just the United States because of you know, 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: action or inaction of the Fed or the President or anything. 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: What is true is what voters want is the president 65 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: to give them some very clear objectives about what he's 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: going to do and how he's going to take these steps. 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: And so that's what voters want. I think they want 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: less about the blame game and more to say, hey, 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: what are we doing to make people's lives better? I 70 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: get that part, but when we start hearing about the 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: putin price hike, you know, in in terms like this, 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to acknowledge the whole story, and it 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: can I'm across as disingenuous. No, well, look that is 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: a piece of it, right. It's clearly the war in 75 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: Ukraine made things different, more difficult to supply. Chain is 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: a very big issue out there, and again it's not 77 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: just the United States. Everyone is having these problems around 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: the world and trying to blame. You know, one action 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: by the president is really. The White House has adopted 80 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: the term ultra maga to describe, I guess the right 81 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: wing of the Republican Party. I'm not sure if you 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: can really even draw the lines on this the Trump wing. Uh, 83 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: but also the economic proposals put forward by Senator Rick 84 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: Scott of Florida. He chairs the National Republican Senatorial Committee, 85 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: which might be part of the reason they're The administration though, 86 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: decided to make him the foil. He spoke last weekend 87 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Jim at the Lincoln Reagan Dinner in Newport, New Hampshire. 88 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Love for you to respond to what he said. Here 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: he is. Romando is running commerce. She came antified about 90 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I said, what are you doing for inflation? 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: She said, it's not my fault, it's all the Federal Reserve, 92 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Sectuary Transportation. Bootage came and testified. He said, what are 93 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: you doing about the supply chain? I said, you've only 94 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: been out to the Port and California one time since 95 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: you've been in office. And by the way, Bootage as Ormando. 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: The last time they testified inflation was one point four percent. 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: I think it was, but they took no responsibility. So 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: he's turning this into a competency issue, Jim, much like 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Republicans are with the baby formula shortage. As a campaigner, 100 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: how do you answer that, knowing the amount of time 101 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: you have between now and November. I think you don't. 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: I think what you do is say, here's what we're 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: doing to make things better. I think you don't get 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: a tip for tat. I think you don't want to 105 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: be on the defensive as a campaigner. What you want 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: to do is move an offensive argument. When I run 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: presidential campaigns, I always talk about you have to win 108 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: the economic argument, and the winner of that argument wins 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: the election. And so I think that's what I would 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: stay very focused on if I were the What are 111 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Joe Biden, having been as close to 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: him as you were in the Obama administration to see 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: him at the helm now as a much older man 114 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: and one who's dealing with a very different political climate. Yeah, Look, 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, at some point, you know it's the old 116 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: Chinese curse. May you live in interesting times when the 117 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: challenges in front of him, the challenges, so you know, 118 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: leaders around the world are really really difficult right now, 119 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: and you know you combining COVID a war, inflation. These 120 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: are really big challenges. And the thing that I think 121 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: is good is you've got a pretty steady guy who 122 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: understands the challenges, has been through every single crisis, um, 123 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: and it's gonna not panic and not do dumb things 124 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: and attempt to just get the policy right, because that's 125 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: what presidents have to do. You have to get the 126 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: policy right. Spending time with Jim Messina uh here on 127 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg sound On, I mentioned the primaries Jim big Ones today, 128 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: especially in Georgia. I'm sure you're watching along with everyone 129 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: where we've seen a split between in the Republican Party 130 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: between Trump Nation or I don't know, Ultra Maga and 131 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: establishment Republicans, certainly in the gubernatorial primary, uh where Mike 132 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Pence actually campaigned in person for the incumbent governor, Brian Kemp. 133 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Early voting turnout has tripled since eighteen and thanks to 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: your governor, it is easier to vote and harder to 135 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: cheat than ever before in Georgia history. And that's not 136 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: that's the opposite of what Donald Trump is saying, as 137 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: we heard last evening in a Teletown hall for his candidate. 138 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: Of course, the former Senator for it's something that we 139 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: have to win, we want to win, and we have 140 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: a governor that's done the worst job of any governor 141 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: in probably decades on election integrity. Getting to this story 142 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: from the other side, Jim, how did Democrats exploit the fissure? Well, 143 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: first of all, Georgia is now the most competitive state 144 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: in America. There's more spending in Georgia Senate race and 145 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: the governor's race and any other state. Georgia is now 146 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: the the kind of center of American politics. And you know, 147 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: it's amazing to see Pence campaign against Trump's candidate. I 148 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: guess he's one thing you can say about Pences. He's 149 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: stabbing Trump in the front, not the back. Um. But 150 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: it's something we have just never seen. Democrats are the 151 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: beneficiaries of this. They love this brutal, ugly primary because 152 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: they have a very strong nominee in Stacy Abrahams and 153 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: she's waiting for the winner here. And you know what 154 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: we saw in the in the runoff elections in December 155 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: of last year when Democrats won two cents. These people 156 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: didn't think that they would is there was depressed turnout 157 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: by Republicans because of some of the Trump problems, and 158 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: so the question for Democrats is going to be coming 159 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: out of tonight, how many Republicans actually voted here and 160 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: are the people who lose are they going to be 161 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: pissed and not stay with the Republican nominee in the 162 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: in the general election? Is that something that Democrats should 163 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: hope for. Absolutely? And it's difficult of a year. Um, 164 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: you know, a turnout of one or two points less 165 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: by the Republicans could give the Democrats the Senate seat 166 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: and the governorship. Jim has seen a great opportunity to 167 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: spend some time with you on a primary day. Thanks 168 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: for being with the CEO of the Messinic Group with 169 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: us on the fastest hour in politics. I'm Joe, Matthew 170 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and Washington. Welcome to Sound On. It is the Tuesday edition, 171 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: and we're dealing with some terrible breaking news that I 172 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: want to mention and something that we're going to be 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: touching on with our panel in just a moment. But 174 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: there's been a terrible mass shooting today. It happened in 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: an elementary school in a rural community in Texas. This 176 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: is right outside San Antonio, remembering as well, by the way, 177 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: they're voting there today, that is that's uh, that's uh 178 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: not far from the Quare district here, which goes from 179 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: San Antonio down to the Rio Grand Governor Greg Abbots 180 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: is fourteen students and a teacher were killed gunmen fatally 181 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: shot by police. This is some thing that is unfolding 182 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: right now, and I want to urge you to remember 183 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: we've we've been through stories like these before. Just a 184 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: grain assault in the opening moments here as we get 185 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: actual numbers, because sometimes these things can change. Governor Abbott 186 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: did identify the shooter as an eighteen year old student. 187 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: Uh at the high school, of all the high school 188 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: is where this happened. If we can bring in the 189 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: panel quickly on this, it's something that I'd like to 190 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: be able to hear from Rick and Genie about Bloomberg 191 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: Politics contributors Rick Davis Jeannie Chanzano. Rick, I didn't plan 192 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: to be talking about this. You didn't either. But this 193 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: is a story, obviously that brings up a lot of 194 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: issues here when we think about our security, the availability 195 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: of guns. A lot of campaign issues are driven by 196 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: these shootings. They just they don't always seem to drive 197 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: people to conclusions at the polls. Is this the type 198 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: of thing that that informs someone's decisions at the polls. Well, 199 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: Joe um our show is interrupted it on a more 200 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: and more frequent basis, it seems by these kinds of 201 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: shootings that just rock the communities. And our our prayers 202 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: go out to the people of Vivaldi. I know this 203 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: is an incredible shock to them and and frankly should 204 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: be a shock to every person in the world to 205 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: have this kind of heinous crime occur. And and it 206 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: reminds us that there are issues that revolve around um 207 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: guns and violence in our communities, crime that will be 208 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: a major factor in this year's election. And we talk 209 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: a lot about inflation, we talk a lot about the economy, 210 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: even the war in Ukraine, but but more and more 211 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: people are starting to talk about this kind of needless violence, 212 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: access to weapons, and especially by young people like this 213 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: perpetrator who reports are was eighteen years old and uh 214 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: and and in the crime that has spun up, you know, 215 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of our major cities and here in 216 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: a very thought rural area. Rick and Genie back with 217 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: more from our panel. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. 218 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio as 219 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: we changed course with breaking news. Thanks for joining us. 220 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: A terrible story that is unfolding from Texas. As you 221 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: read on the terminal, fourteen kids, one teacher killed in 222 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: mass Texas school shooting. We heard a short time ago 223 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: from Governor Greg Abbott. There are families who are in 224 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: mourning right now, and instead of Texas is in mourning 225 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: with them. I want to warn you that this is 226 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: still in the early going here, but the governor does 227 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: say that the shooter kill fourteen students and one teacher 228 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: using a handgun. An eighteen year old shooter Valdi High 229 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: School shot and killed by officers. Two officers were hit, 230 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: according to the governor, not hurt seriously. And as we 231 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: were just discussing with Rick Davis, Jennie Schanzana was with 232 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: us as well our panel. There are a lot of 233 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: different ways to get to this, but a lot of 234 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: it feeds, of course, the controversy around crime here in 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: this country. If you flip the coin on that, it 236 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: also feeds the debate around access to guns. Genie, I'd 237 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: like to get your take. We had a moment with Rick, 238 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: but I didn't get to hear from you on this. 239 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: You know, we're supposed to be talking about primary day here, 240 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: and these are big issues that will last through this 241 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: cycle and likely straight through that's right. I mean, it's incomprehensible, 242 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: and I think the government that the governor put it right. 243 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: Horrific and incomprehensible. Fourteen elementary school kids, those are babies 244 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: and their parents are supposed to be uniting with them 245 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: after school. Reportedly Thursday was their last day of this 246 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: school year, and they will never go home. It is 247 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: reminds all of us of Sandy Hook. But this is 248 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: These are not isolated incidents, obviously in the United States, 249 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: and that's the problem. Gun violence in the US has 250 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: surged beginning in This is a continuation of what was 251 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: a horrific weekend, the shootings and Buffalo. But when you 252 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: see this impacting kids and babies, people in school who 253 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: are supposed to be learning, it speaks to everything from 254 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: guns to violence to mental health. A young man apparently 255 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: eighteen year old dead now who did this? Um So 256 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, by every stretch this is something that is 257 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: going to play into these primaries, into these elections, but 258 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: it has going back decades in the United States. We've 259 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: made very few strides at the national level. Great strides 260 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: at the state and local level, but at the national level, 261 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: very few strides. When it comes to either gun control 262 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: or mental health. It has to be addressed, and it 263 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: hasn't yet been, and that is shameful for all of us. 264 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: We're hearing from the White House now. The President has 265 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: been briefed on this as you would suspects. Rick Uh Karine. 266 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: Jean Pierre, the Press Secretary, says his prayers are with 267 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: the families impacted by this awful event, and he will 268 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: speak this evening when he arrives back at the White House. 269 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Is that the right move? Sure? This will be something 270 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: that I think every American wants to um talk about, 271 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: to grieve for the people uh in you double you 272 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: Uvaldi Texas, and and and and I think it's the 273 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: job of the President to try and put some kind 274 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: of focus on this um UM. I think having Joe 275 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: Biden UH and his ability to UH empathize with the 276 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: American public around this, this troubling event, UM is actually 277 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: a really good use of this president's time and attention 278 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: right now. There are so many other crisises that he 279 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: has had to deal with but none probably more important 280 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: than the health and safety of our own people, you know, 281 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: in the country here and and there are so many 282 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: things to unpack from this, so many issues that have 283 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: gone along too long, uh, that haven't been addressed. And 284 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: I think his tone and tenor tonight would be a 285 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: good time to start that discussion and and plan to 286 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: have it throughout the course of of the balance of 287 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: this year at least, because um, we have to find 288 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: solutions of this that that people can sign onto, regardless 289 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: of their ideology or their geography. What are those solutions, Genie? 290 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, are we going to start talking solutions tonight 291 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: or is it too early for that for this president? 292 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's never too early to start talking solutions 293 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: because this is not again an isolated incident. This change 294 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: of politics could backfire. It can backfire. But you know 295 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: what that should be nobody's concern, and particularly this president's. 296 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: We have babies in the United States being killed on 297 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: a daily basis. We have the largest number of mass 298 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: shootings that we've had, and this is going on and on. 299 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: It has to be address. The problem is how is 300 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: it going to be addressed? Can you move anything like 301 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: this through the US Congress today, and sadly the answer 302 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: is no. I mean I sat on television after Sandy 303 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: Hook and said, it is incomprehensible that we will not 304 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: see federal action after you see twenty six babies murdered 305 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: in their school, and yet we saw no federal action, 306 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: much to the dismay of there then President Obama and 307 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: much of the rest of Congress. But that is the 308 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: reality of a Senate in which you have a filibuster 309 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: that was used to stop action, which, by the way, 310 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: large majorities of Americans support common sense gun control. It 311 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: is not a hard thing to pull on or find 312 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: that it's different about this time though. What's different Rick 313 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: from Newtown? Uh, the numbers were even more horrid the stories, 314 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: uh were mainstream people promise change and we're still talking 315 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I think it's it's time. First of all, 316 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: I think that we should have a higher expectation by 317 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: Congress than thinking that this has anything to do you know, 318 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: with with um you know, getting fift more than fifty 319 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: one votes, we should have a hundred votes in the 320 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: United States Senate for change. Right, people have to understand 321 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: that continuing ignorance of this issue, ignoring what is happening 322 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: in our own country, with violence UH significantly increasing over 323 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: the last few years. Needs a direct and and and 324 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: massive attack, massive approach to fixing this problem. It's not 325 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: just hardware, it's also mental illness, and I think all 326 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: those things need to be taken into consider. Another redefining 327 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: story in two. This is Bloomberg broadcasting live from our 328 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: nation's capital, Bloomberg to New York, Bloomberg eleven Frio to Boston, 329 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg one O six one to San Francisco, Bloomberg nine 330 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: sixty to the country, Serious XM General one nine and 331 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: around the globe, the Bloomberg Business app and Bloomberg Radio 332 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: dot Com. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew. 333 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: Another mass shooting changes the conversation in America, this time Texas, 334 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: where fourteen kids and one teacher were killed at the 335 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: hands of an eighteen year old. We're gonna have the 336 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: latest for you. This took place just outside of San Antonio, 337 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: and of course Texas is voting today on this primary 338 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: day with runoffs that will be pivotal in some cases. 339 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Here was an incumbency on the line not far from 340 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: where this happened. We'll have a conversation next with Elections 341 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: reporter Greg Duro. We're all also going to reassemble the panel. 342 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Rick and Jenier with us to help make sense of 343 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: this as the news comes in. We're learning more as 344 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: we go through the hour. We got the latest information 345 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: from the governor Texas. Governor Greg Abbott want you to 346 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: hear this in his words, Uh, an eighteen year old 347 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: mal who resided in Uvaldy is believed that he abandoned 348 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: his vehicle and entered into the rob Elementary School in 349 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: New Valley with with a handgun, and he may also 350 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: had a rifle, but that is not yet confirmed. According 351 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: to my most recent report, UH, he shot and killed horrifically, 352 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: incomprehensibly UH fourteen students UH and killed a teacher. UH. 353 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: Mr Romos the shooter UH he is he Uh he 354 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: himself is deceased. UH and is believed that responding officers 355 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: killed him. It appears that two responding officers were struck 356 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: by rounds but have no serious injuries. UH. The Uvality 357 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Consolidity Independent School District Police Department is the investigating agency 358 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: and we will provide them and the City of u 359 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: Vality substantial investigative and patrol assistance when the process of 360 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: obtaining detail to background information on the subject, and of 361 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: course we'll bring to you more as soon as we do. 362 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: That's Texas Governor Greg Abbott speaking just moments ago with 363 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: reporters about this, giving us the latest news. And it's 364 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: terrible if you're just joining us. Another terrible school shooting, 365 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: this time in elementary school in Texas, Greg Abbott. By 366 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: the way, the governor is currently scheduled to speak at 367 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: an n r A conference this week in Houston, Texas, 368 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: at which Donald Trump will be the headline speaker. And 369 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: of course, look, that's a point of pride for Texas Republicans. 370 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp. If we can move to Georgia here for 371 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: a second. Also, one of the biggest endorsements that he 372 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: was promoting for himself was that of the n r A. 373 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: I mentioned this because of course he's in his primary 374 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: today and in Georgia they're voting in both states. Brian 375 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: camp talked about it just a couple of days ago 376 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: here in his effort to keep the job, which it 377 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: appears he will do with a commanding lead over former 378 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Senator David Purdue. Here he is as George's governor. I've 379 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: been grateful for their support and partnership, and as a 380 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: gun owner in life long member, I'm proud to receive 381 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: their endorsement as we continue to fight every day for 382 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: the constitutional right of all of Jordan's let's bringing Greg Darrow. 383 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: He's been covering the campaign trail UH with abandoned this 384 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: primary season and if you want to know what's happening 385 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: today in a series of states, it's not just the 386 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: three primaries got runoffs in Texas always breaking it down 387 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: by congressional district with great context. Bloomberg Elections reporter Greg Jarrow, 388 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. Greg. We didn't think we'd be 389 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: talking about this, but it is important to note that 390 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: this is a major issue here. There are a couple 391 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: of them tied into this in the midterm election cycle. 392 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: Crime as a potential liability for Democrats, but also access 393 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: to guns. There's nothing more effective than wrapping yourself in 394 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: an n R A indorsement as a Republican candidate. But 395 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: where does that lead the greater conversation about public safety? 396 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Can and get another terrible tragedy 397 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: and other mass shooting and the fact that it was 398 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: at an elementary school just makes it sadly reminiscent of Newtown. 399 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: It seems like it just seems like every time this happens, 400 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: every time we have a mass shooting, all two common 401 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: in our country that you know, it does reignite conversation 402 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: about access to guns and who should have them, but ultimately, 403 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, nothing really happens in legislatures. So I'm I'm 404 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: sure we'll go through this cycle again where it will 405 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: be um, you know, I think recovering from the tragedy. Um. 406 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: But I'm just not sure that it's going to lead 407 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: to any real policy changes. Well, and why would you 408 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: It's never happened if Newtown wouldn't do it. These numbers 409 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: are not as great, and it's a very different political 410 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: climate now. I wonder, though, is you consider the way 411 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: the debate has changed, the conversation has changed on the 412 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: campaign trail within the cycle here Greg we added Roe v. 413 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: Wade a couple of weeks go. We're bringing public safety 414 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: back again here in a big way. We have the 415 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: shootings in New York. Now this, uh, you can't predict. 416 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: It's just a reminder that you cannot predict what is 417 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: going to decide elections. This could balloon into something much 418 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: bigger between now and November. Yes, I think that's right. 419 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean, typically we've got you know, three or four 420 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: major issues that tend to decide elections of the economy 421 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: and jobs. Inflation is really spiked up, um. But you know, 422 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: public safety I think is certainly um an issue that 423 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: has gotten a lot more attention. We are about mass shootings, 424 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: but also attacks on public transit areas like New York 425 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: City and other another jurisdiction. So I think this will 426 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: be certainly a recurring issue and one that will may 427 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: get more attention than otherwise would another election years. This 428 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: took place in Valdi taxes, if I'm saying it right Valdi, 429 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: I think is what I want to say. That congressional 430 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: district is adjacent, I believe, to the one where Henry 431 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: Quare is fighting for his life, going from that kind 432 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: of San Antonio area down to the border. Can can 433 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: we assume that there was voting happening in this area? Right? Yeah? 434 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: So you've all day is about eighty miles west of 435 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: San Antonio, which is a major population center for the 436 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: district where Congressman Henry Choire is in a tough runoff. 437 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: Election against Jessica Cisneros. Most of the vote in Texas 438 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: has cast earlier absentee, but there's still you know a 439 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: number of people in that district runs from San Antonio, 440 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: sub little radio that are certainly still voting. Voting goes 441 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: on until eight o'clock Washington time, and so um. Certainly, 442 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: once news is filtering out, it's going to be weighing 443 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: on the minds of people as they go to the polls. 444 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: This historically, Greg, before you leave us, do issues like 445 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: gun control? Does the issue of gun control change minds 446 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: or galvanize existing opinions When we have a story like this, 447 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: I think it's more of the ladder. I mean, there 448 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: are you look at public opinion polls and you know, 449 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: you see an overwhelming majority of people who support background 450 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: checks for for guns. But it's not a singular voting issue, 451 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: at least not for people on the majority side. But 452 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: it tends to be um an issue that the more 453 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: single issue voters are those who probably more on the 454 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: n r A side than on those who support stronger 455 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: restrictions on gun ownership. Thanks for being with us as always, 456 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: Greg Dree, Elections reporter with Bloomberg Governments. This is Bloomberg. 457 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew 458 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. The Fastest Hour in Politics takes a 459 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: bit of a turn here with the horrible news. Charlie 460 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: was just talking about as we try to understand some 461 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: of the issues that could come from this, particularly in 462 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: a midterm election season. I just saw a tweet from 463 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: Representative Henry Quare, who, as we discussed a few moments 464 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: ago with Greg Darrow, is up for very important primary today. 465 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: Is incumbent see is on the line. This is a 466 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: neighboring congressional districts that stretches from San Antonio to the 467 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Rio Grand Henry Quay are the last, the last pro 468 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: life Democrat in the U. S. House. He tweets, I 469 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: am heartbroken over the mass shooting at rob Elementary School. 470 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: Fifteen families, the South Texas community, and the entire nation 471 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: are in mourning. Let us pray for peace, Let us 472 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: come together, he writes, for our neighbors that need support, 473 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: and let us remember the bright lives we lost today. 474 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: He's up against a more progressive Democrat named Jessica says Narros, 475 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: who happens to be celebrating a twenty nine birthday on 476 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: this primary day. As we reassemble the panel. Rick and 477 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: Jeanie have been with us from the beginning here as 478 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: we first learned about this UH at the beginning of 479 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: the program Bloomberg Politics contributors. When you hear a statement 480 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: like that Rick on a on a primary day, is 481 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: it too much to connect the dots between a story 482 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: like this? Do Does this motivate people to vote, not 483 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: one way or the other, but to just have a 484 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: say in the process today? Yeah, sure. I think these 485 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: are the kinds of issues that galvanize the public around 486 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: being more active in politics. They want to they want 487 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: to have an impact in their community. They want to 488 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: see change, UH and many times it's because they don't 489 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: see the change coming from their elected officials, and so 490 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: they do become more active. Today is actually certainly a 491 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: good day in regards to what we're seeing as far 492 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: as public participation in elections. Massive increases in voting in 493 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: in Georgia, even after arguments were made on the Democratic 494 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: side that the new laws would UH stifle voting. New 495 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: early voting laws that that caused such concern two years 496 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: ago are are producing the greatest um off your election 497 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: turn out that they've ever seen. So with regard to 498 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: the shooting though, Rick and And as a Republican specifically, 499 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: you know the talking points here. Republicans say Democrats relied 500 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: on crime, Democrats say Republicans are irresponsible when it comes 501 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: to guns. How do you win that argument? It's it's 502 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: a game of tic tac toe have as we've proven. Yeah, 503 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: it's it's part of the polarization that we have, not 504 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: just with people's ideology but also UM on on issues 505 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: like this, where if that's the only way you frame 506 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: the debate, then you're never going to find a solution 507 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: to that debate. And UH, twenty years ago, UH, this summer, 508 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: I produced a television commercial that John McCain started in 509 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: that we aired in movie theaters all around the country 510 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: that encouraged parents to lock away their guns now that 511 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: their children were going to be home for this for 512 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: school after school, so that we could create more gun safety, 513 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: something simple that nobody could argue with. Uh. And it 514 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: was the first time a advocacy UM commercial was shown 515 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: in movie theaters. Now that's pretty much all you see. 516 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, what we found 517 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: places where we could get people of the people agree that, 518 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: of course that's an important thing to have a gun 519 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: lock on your gun at home if your kids are 520 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: going to be home for summer. Is that a commercial 521 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: Republican could make today, Jeanie, It is, and they should 522 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: be making it. You know. Unfortunately, what we're looking at 523 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: today is you know, Rick's talking about twenty years ago, 524 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: but let's just look at the numbers. Since two thousand, 525 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: gun production in the United States has tripled. This includes huge, 526 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: huge numbers of these ghost guns, these privately manufactured guns. 527 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: And the report just out the other day by the 528 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms showed that rise to 529 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: eleven point three million in three point nine million. So 530 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: we've had both a rise in horrific math shootings and unfortunately, 531 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: you've all day is going to be added to that 532 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: horrible list Columbine, Newtown, Buffalo. It just keeps adding up. 533 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: And yet at the same time you've seen this rise 534 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: in manufacturing, this rise and purchase and there is no 535 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: effort at the federal level to address this. And Rick's 536 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: talking about a common sense approach. There's a many ideas 537 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: out there, and yet they cannot push it through a U. S. 538 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: Senate at this point that has a filibuster, and that's 539 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. So all of the action 540 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: that's happened, and action has happened, has been at the 541 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: state and local level, at the hands of organizations and 542 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: people who have gotten animated on this issue. But it's 543 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: not enough because guns go over state lines. This is 544 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: starting to come through Washington now. People are are learning 545 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: about this, and it's actually Senator Chris Murphy, Democrat from Connecticut, 546 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: speaking about it emotionally on the Senate floor. Listen to 547 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: him for a moment. What are we doing? Why do 548 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: you spend all this time running for the United State Senate? 549 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Why do you go through all the hassle of getting 550 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: this job, of putting yourself in a position of authority. 551 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: If your answer is that as this slaughter increases, as 552 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: our kids run for their lives, we do nothing. What 553 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: are we doing? Why are you here? These are questions 554 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: Rick that probably deserve answers. Uh, but I'm not sure 555 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: we're going to get any You understand, of course, why 556 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: this country is so jated. You have never seen progress 557 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: on this Yeah, and uh, and and and it's partially 558 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: because of the rhetoric that are our lawmakers take where 559 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: they they insulate themselves by creating an action forcing event 560 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: that nothing can happen, and it would actually be a 561 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: good signal, you know. And this is this is actually 562 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: something I think American public would expect and and it 563 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: doesn't cost anybody anything for the congressional leadership, both Republican 564 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: and Democrat UH to get together and have a summit 565 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: on this to find out ways that we can bridge 566 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: some of these gaps. No guarantees that there's any outcome. 567 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: In fact, arguably, um, maybe there won't be. But but 568 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: it's a shared problem, right. It's one of those things 569 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: that that both Republicans and Democrats in powerful positions, as 570 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: as Senator Murphy says, who's got a sworn obligation to 571 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: protect the country, UH, could get together and have a 572 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: conversation about this where where at least they're talking about it. 573 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like part of this is that this is 574 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: not even a dialogue anymore. Nobody wants to talk about 575 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: it because they feel like some demagogue is going to 576 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: argue with them. Uh. It will be interesting to see 577 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: how some of the other leaders and and you know, 578 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: we talked about Donald Trump all the time, someone who 579 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: has used the gun issue as a way to divide 580 00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: the public, both along economic lines and geographic lines. Um, 581 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: you know what he says today, because it's it's it's 582 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: up to people who are seen as leaders to start 583 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: answering some of these questions, which is, what are we 584 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: going to do about this? Sometimes you don't get a statement, 585 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: which is always interesting with the decisions coming out of 586 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: the Trump camp here. But Jennie, this is why the 587 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: vitriol is such a problem. Right, Look, if you have 588 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: no relationships with people across the aisle, whether you're the 589 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: Biden administration or the Republican leadership on Capitol Hill, how 590 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: are you going to get together on this? If you 591 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: can't figure out baby formula without attacking each other, how 592 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: are you going to deal with something so important and 593 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: so tragic today? It's stunning because again, this is something 594 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: that massive majorities of Americans agree on. You know, you know, 595 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: people do have a strong affinity for Second Amendment rights. 596 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: They believe that people should be allowed to own and 597 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: purchase guns, but they also believe that there should be 598 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: limits to that, and that has been you know, common 599 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: Son's gun control. As we like to say is not 600 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: not something that is looked down at by the vast majorities. 601 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: In fact, they support it. And you know, I would 602 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: just go back to there was a time when kids 603 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: in this country in school, we're preparing for a nuclear attack. 604 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: You know what our kids are preparing for today. Just 605 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: what happened. And you've you've all the we all know it. 606 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: They all go through these lockdown drills. They all know 607 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: what to do if this happens. That is a sad 608 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: commentary on where we are. And by the way, you know, 609 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: as a New Yorker, I will just say we are 610 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: waiting not just for a Supreme Court decision on abortion 611 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: and row, but also on New York State's tougher gun 612 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: control law that is going to be decided by the 613 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: Supreme Court any day now. So there are decisions being 614 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: made at this moment in all areas of the federal level, 615 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: and in the Supreme Court case, we suspect that they 616 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: will likely overturn this New York law. So the federal 617 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: government is taking exactly the wrong approach when it comes 618 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: to making all of us and our kids safe in 619 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: their schools. Well, I know that this is you're coming 620 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: from academia, uh, in in your tenure now, and I 621 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: own a college, Genie, I know this really hits home 622 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: for you as a parent. Any of our our our 623 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: parent listeners know what this means. I can remember the 624 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: first time I got that email from school letting me 625 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: know that they had an active shooter drill, and and 626 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: I remember hearing about this from my child, how they 627 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: hate in the corner while the bad man was going 628 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: down the hall. That kind of stuff is that that's 629 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: that's just sad to think about your kid going through that, 630 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: And it's something that the President is going to need 631 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: to get to Tonight. We just learned, by the way, 632 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: from the White House eight p m. Washington time, the 633 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: President will deliver remarks on what happened today in Texas. 634 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: You can expect to hear his remarks right here on Bloomberg. Rick, 635 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: thank you for the insights today, Jennie, thank you too. 636 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: These things are not easy to talk about, but we're 637 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: awfully lucky. I am, and just like to to be 638 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: surrounded by some of the smartest people, not just smart though, 639 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: great human beings soof helped us get through some tough 640 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: stuff this year. We got another one today and we'll 641 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: have the latest for you ahead on the situation in Texas. 642 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Meet you back here tomorrow. I'm Joe Matthew. This is 643 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: Bloomberg