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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always excited to bring

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Speaker 1: up Otto Graham. At the top of the show. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westleying podcast studio with

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Speaker 1: my friend Patrick Claybon Eric Roberts behind the glass, just

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Speaker 1: coming over from so Far seeing one of the games

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Speaker 1: of the year. And yes, Nick Shook in Cleveland, you

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Speaker 1: dirty dog, you took this game from us, Shook, and

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Speaker 1: you were the one covering the score fest that was

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Speaker 1: Rams Bills today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I took the game from you, but I also

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Speaker 2: gave you the opportunity to go cover your favorite player

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Speaker 2: in the history of football, Gino Snow. Okay, I think

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Speaker 2: it was a fair trade.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that. That's a good tease.

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Speaker 1: We're going NFC West heavy at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I mentioned Otto Graham's name because Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: did something that no one's done since Otto Graham. Surely

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Speaker 1: that would be enough to win the game. Right, Let's

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Speaker 1: go over to so Far so to go in.

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Speaker 4: Regulation, Stafford from the shotgun looking left, rose right, receiver

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Speaker 4: screen cut.

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Speaker 5: Block touchdown cooking a cou touchdownlay with one fifty four remaining.

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Speaker 3: A receiver screen for.

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Speaker 6: A two possession lead over the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: That is our friend JB.

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Speaker 1: Long, I'm kespn Yes, Puka Nakua on another brilliant play

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Speaker 1: call from Sean McVay, more brilliant execution from the.

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Speaker 3: Blockers on the outside. They're so good at that.

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Speaker 1: And yes, this receiver going twelve for one sixty two

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Speaker 1: and a touchdown through the air, also one on the ground.

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Speaker 1: There just aren't many receivers like Puka Nakuah. There's not

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Speaker 1: many players like Matthew Stafford. There's not many players like

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen who might have helped his MVP case on

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Speaker 1: a day where.

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Speaker 3: They didn't win.

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Speaker 1: Forty four to forty two is the final the Rams

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Speaker 1: pull off the upset. Patrick called it all that's something,

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Speaker 1: and yet we go to you shook when you drilled

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Speaker 1: down and think about this game. How did the Rams

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Speaker 1: do it? What was the difference between these two excellent quarterbacks?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 2: The Rams made every play that they needed to make

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Speaker 2: to get the lead that they needed to outlast the Bills.

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Speaker 2: It was the first drive was like a haymaker, a

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Speaker 2: twelve play, seventy yard march that ends in the Kirad

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Speaker 2: Williams touchdown run, and it's just back and forth, back

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Speaker 2: and forth. Then they get the punt block and suddenly

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Speaker 2: they're up by ten points. That was the difference. They

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Speaker 2: needed to have just enough breathing room just to stay

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Speaker 2: out in front of this Bills offense that we know

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Speaker 2: can be very explosive with Josh Allen. Matthew Stafford has

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Speaker 2: a career or a season high three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: passing yards in a season in which he's been very

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Speaker 2: up and down, very hard to pin down. He was

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Speaker 2: very solid today and they came through in the clutch.

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Speaker 2: They faced a fourth and five on that drive, a

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Speaker 2: couple of plays that preceded that Puka Dakua touchdown, Stafford

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Speaker 2: drops back. Tom Brady's already second guessing the decision to

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Speaker 2: go Ford on fourth and five, But as we know,

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Speaker 2: the worst place to be in football is up six

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Speaker 2: with a few minutes left to go, and Sean mcvasas,

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Speaker 2: we're not getting stuck in that position. We're going for it.

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Speaker 2: Stafford drops, he fires a sidearm rocket over the middle

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Speaker 2: to two to two at well, perfect pass, perfect timing.

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Speaker 2: First down. They did everything they needed to in the

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Speaker 2: biggest spots and that's how you beat a team like

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, home field advantage or not. That was

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Speaker 2: what they needed to deliver, and they did, and it

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Speaker 2: took a lot.

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Speaker 7: It took a lot of effort.

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Speaker 8: The last time the Bills lost the game, it was

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Speaker 8: back in Week five to the Texans where Josh Allen

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Speaker 8: had that nine of thirty game. This decidedly not a

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Speaker 8: Josh Allen nine of thirty game. One of the better

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Speaker 8: games that we've seen Josh Allen play, which is saying

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Speaker 8: something considering the caliber football player that it is. And

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Speaker 8: so Bills fans aren't gonna blame their generational quarterback. They're

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Speaker 8: going to look back to that decision that happened. A

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Speaker 8: couple of plays before Puka Nukua goes into the end zone,

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Speaker 8: there's a third down where the Rams are called for

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Speaker 8: a holding. You can either decline the holding penalty and

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Speaker 8: make it fourth in fourth and seven, or you could

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Speaker 8: take the holding penalty, make it third and seventeen.

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Speaker 7: They took the penalty.

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Speaker 8: Stafford gets one completion, He gets the completion that was

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Speaker 8: score and then after they score that touchdown, the Bills

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Speaker 8: drop down the field with no timeouts, they get a

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Speaker 7: For a quarterback sneak and they don't get it, so

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Speaker 8: To use a timeout, which necessitates the on side kick,

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Speaker 8: which leads to the Rams win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of focus in Buffalo and nationally

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Speaker 1: on how Sean McDermott finished that game.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: McDermott hasn't been good in those spots before. It was

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Speaker 1: the wrong decision to call the time out there. The sneak,

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Speaker 1: to me is understandable. Yeah, just because it's Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and it's such a successful play and you're on the

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Speaker 1: you're going to throw it there to save your timeouts

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Speaker 1: and save the time. That said, when they lined up,

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Speaker 1: it was obvious what they were going to do, and

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Speaker 1: the Rams stuffed it earlier in the game, And you

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Speaker 1: have to give the Rams credit for stuffing it. This

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Speaker 1: was a game with very few great defensive plays and

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Speaker 1: they did something not many people have done in that spot.

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Speaker 1: They stuffed it. The problem is then taking the time out,

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Speaker 1: and you would have lost fifteen seconds. But even then,

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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty seconds is less valuable than that time

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Speaker 1: out because that forced them having to go for a

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Speaker 3: I just think Nick, in a game where these two.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks were that good making that the focus is just

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Speaker 1: missing the forest for the trees, because the Bills had

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Speaker 1: a very long shot to win in that scenario. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: there is very little about this game that would have

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Speaker 1: the Rams know that they need to get a first down.

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Speaker 3: We just saw it.

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Speaker 1: The Rams were picking up first downs when they absolutely

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Speaker 1: needed to. That last drive that they went on was

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Speaker 1: a six minute, fifty five second drive where they killed them.

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Speaker 1: So I would have expected Stafford to get it done

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Speaker 1: the Bill's defense, if you want to point fingers, that's

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Speaker 1: solid out of Stafford. This wasn't my game, But man,

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Speaker 1: every other time I looked up, there were other worldly throws.

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Speaker 1: The nineteen yard out he had to pooka the no

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Speaker 1: I mean, Stafford was absolutely sensational. And our friend Jordan

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Speaker 1: rod Rieg is killing herself because she took him off

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Speaker 1: there and he just absolutely balls out. So it's pretty

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Speaker 1: amazing to outshine Josh Allen on.

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Speaker 3: A day like this.

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Speaker 1: Shook yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I've been wanting something like this from him all

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Speaker 2: season because he's just been so volatile. But it was

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Speaker 2: beautiful to see. It was beautiful to see him and

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Speaker 2: Sean McVay working in tandem like we've known them to

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Speaker 2: effectively against a team that you knew you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: go back to what you were talking about, the idea

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Speaker 2: that you were gonna get off the field in the

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Speaker 2: final defensive possession if you actually kept your timeouts, not

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. The Rams with eleven for fifteen on third

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, the type of performance had. It's interesting because

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Speaker 2: in the NFC West, a division that still doesn't want

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Speaker 2: the Rams have been right on the precipice of taking

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Speaker 2: a dirt nap of us bearing them for the season.

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Speaker 2: Yet each time they find a way to fight back,

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Speaker 2: get back on the conversation with wins like this, and

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Speaker 2: this is the best one they've had all season. I

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Speaker 2: know there's a lot of points in the defense wasn't

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Speaker 2: all season, and it just reminds us they're not going away.

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Speaker 2: We have to take them seriously no matter who they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a moment that they had to have.

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Speaker 1: They go to San Francisco on Thursday night. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to the rest of the division shortly, but they are

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Speaker 1: right in it. So many crazy stats in this game.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned out of graam so Josh Allen first quarterback

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Speaker 1: with three touchdowns passing and three touchdowns rushing since Auto Graham,

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Speaker 1: you boy shook. I mean they say the Browns having won,

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Speaker 1: you know, titles, they were winning titles like crazy, and

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Speaker 1: it respective of era. If you look at Auto Graham's

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference page and and you know that they

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Speaker 3: All of his categories are black.

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Speaker 1: There is no other quarterback that has led the league

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Speaker 1: in everything to even the fraction of a degree of

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Speaker 1: Auto Graham. So just shout out to us. I know

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Speaker 1: it was a totally different sport back then, but he

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen can can can bring us. Bring his name up, shooky.

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Speaker 2: I gotta slide in one more trivia question for you

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Speaker 2: guys like to do this autogram more two numbers hide

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Speaker 2: that Pro Football Reference page. Okay, his second number was fourteen.

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Speaker 2: What was his first jersey number?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's probably something stupid if you're

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Speaker 1: telling me seventy nine or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty.

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Speaker 7: It was sixty.

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Speaker 8: Out there balling, we're in sixty at the quarterback spot.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear to look at Stafford since

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Speaker 1: Pokinaka has come back and before because one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons I was surprised Jordan was the one that brought

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Speaker 1: up to you know pick off Stafford because I thought

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Speaker 1: Stafford was playing better over the last few weeks. Now

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Speaker 1: I totally supported it too, but she she wanted to

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Speaker 1: point out it was the right decision at the time,

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Speaker 1: but she she totally regrets it now. But also he

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Speaker 1: unlocks some of Sean mcvay's creativity. Right now, pukin Akua

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Speaker 1: has three hundred and thirty eighty three yards after being

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Speaker 1: the guy in motion since he's come back. That's more

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Speaker 1: than double anyone else in the entire NFL. Their whole

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Speaker 1: setting him up. Jordan pointed out a really clever play

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Speaker 1: where they ran the same screen touchdown the last two

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Speaker 1: the splits are and the alignments, and they just changed

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Speaker 1: these little things. But they call the same play and

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Speaker 1: then it works and the defense doesn't know it. Jordan, actually,

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Speaker 1: the street, Sean, You've seen just.

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Speaker 4: About every game possible from Puka Nakua, and just two

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Speaker 7: He's such an igniter today.

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Speaker 9: I thought, obviously, you know, Matthew was in total command.

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Speaker 9: is what the hell are you talking about? First player

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Speaker 2: Who the hell comes up with that number right there?

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Speaker 3: But that was he was awesome.

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Speaker 8: And and he was singularly the reason that I was

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Speaker 8: look at his route combinations, crosses, wide receiver screens, run

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Speaker 7: He's better than a whole lot of folks.

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Speaker 8: I think the Bills have an issue covering elite wide receivers.

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Speaker 8: If not for the Nico Collins injury, I think Nico

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Speaker 1: You called it it's a rare Patrick cocking. No, not

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Speaker 3: It was it took a lot.

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Speaker 1: Look that this is the first time in NFL history

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Speaker 1: I think our guy Dante pointed out, teams were two

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Speaker 1: an awesome offensive performance. Eric, you saw across the street

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Speaker 10: Yes, my sixth month old baby was there to watch

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Speaker 10: it was great. It was a great game. I walking

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Speaker 3: I want points. I want to have a good time.

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Speaker 10: But in that scenario in my head, the Bills win,

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Speaker 10: every play, every play they needed. I'm watching seventeen on

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 10: He was nasty all game. And you know, it was fun.

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Speaker 10: It was a good time. I go to these games.

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Speaker 3: I watch, I have fun. It was good time.

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Speaker 1: It's hey, you got you got your Dodgers had on

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Speaker 3: They will regroup.

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Speaker 1: This division race, however, in the NFC West is just

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Speaker 5: He's down the thirty the twenty fifteen to ten five

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Speaker 5: The Seahawks came in saying, we gotta find a way

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Speaker 3: Holy catfish. They do. He Holy catfish.

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Speaker 1: When Steve Rabel is getting excite and surprise, it's a

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks get it done in Arizona thirty to eighteen

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Speaker 1: More on that later, but the Cardinals really a devastating

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks players are way better, and after Kyler Murray

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Speaker 8: And not just the difference in the qualities of the

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Speaker 8: it's just very difficult. It's hard enough to play quarterback

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Speaker 7: There was none of that.

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Speaker 8: Just sustained drives to keep the Cardinals from being able

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Speaker 8: This is the Seahawks team we were promised to shoo.

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks team we were promised. You know, I think

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Speaker 2: And this is kind of what happens, which is what

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Speaker 2: they beat them two weeks ago. That's how they part

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Speaker 1: Well, you wanted to be playing really meaning football the

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Speaker 3: This was kind of a death blow for them, I believe.

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Speaker 1: I think Sharbonay's are really steadying force, and it's all good.

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Speaker 1: needed some guys who can win in man coverage. You

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Speaker 1: can win one on one. I'm thinking, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: did take a receiver in the top five, I think

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Speaker 1: you can.

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Speaker 2: I think the scheme doesn't quite work for him. The

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Speaker 2: attempts to get him the football are never really like

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Speaker 2: good opportunities for him to make a play. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of desperation stuff. And then when they get behind and

446
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Speaker 2: schedule on third down, it's a lot of just Kyler

447
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Speaker 2: trying to make a hero player, just praying for a miracle.

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Speaker 2: That's been them the whole year. That's why the running

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Speaker 2: game has mattered so much.

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Speaker 1: I think it's totally fair to be patient with Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a very, very good pro.

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Speaker 1: But I also think it's fair to say, if I

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Speaker 1: was doing the draft again, I would take Malik Neighbors

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Speaker 1: over him. I would take brock Bowers over him.

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Speaker 8: And not to be dismissed, it's just praise for those guys, Yeah, right,

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Speaker 8: especially considering the situation where you just need layups. Everything

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Speaker 8: can't be a home run ball TOMORV and you can

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Speaker 8: throw a screen in the leak. Have brock Bowers running

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Speaker 8: any of the twenty seven different routes and variations that

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Speaker 8: he does, maybe that does more for the offense, But

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Speaker 8: I mean, we're still talking about a Cardinals team that

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Speaker 8: is undermanned in many different capacities.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but they were so close they really could have

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Speaker 1: should have won that Minnesota game. I doubt Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: was watching Greg Olsen talk about the Cardinals when they

466
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Speaker 1: kicked that field goal to go up six last week,

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Speaker 1: but I was thinking about it when the Rams made

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Speaker 1: the opposite decision in this game, and it's like, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals could have won that game, but they're obviously not

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Speaker 1: stacking up. The Seahawks have won four straight. They get

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Speaker 1: the Packers on Sunday Night Football next week, and then

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Speaker 1: they get the Vikings after that, so this division is

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Speaker 1: not gonna be easy for them to win. They have

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Speaker 1: a very tough schedule. They play the Rams in Week eighteen.

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Speaker 1: There's a real solid chance that's going to decide the division,

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Speaker 1: and that that's the final Sunday Night football game of

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Speaker 1: the year. I'm just throwing that out there a month

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Speaker 1: in advance, although you never know, maybe the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers will get back in the mix in this division.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Santa Clara.

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Speaker 9: Play the drive on the Chicago sixteen yard line, third

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Speaker 9: down and four forty got of a shotgun.

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Speaker 3: Looks like froze clock.

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Speaker 11: Jawan Jennings diving into the yng ud touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Sand friend Cusco, Oh, that's our friend, Greg, Papa KNBR

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Speaker 1: Juan Jennings, he's back. I never really left a couple

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Speaker 1: touchdowns for him on the day, seven catches, ninety yards,

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Speaker 1: George Kidtle goes crazy. The forty nine Ers win thirty

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Speaker 1: eight to thirteen. Patrick in a game that had the

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Speaker 1: most dominant first half I can't ever remember. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just maybe it's happened. You could come up with

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Speaker 1: the stats, but it was three hundred and twenty yards

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Speaker 1: for the forty nine Ers, four for the Chicago.

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Speaker 8: Bear and it was very reminiscent of the Thanksgiving game

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Speaker 8: against the Detroit Lions, where if not for a late

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Speaker 8: push at the end of the first half, it would

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Speaker 8: have been a similar type set of of dominance. And

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Speaker 8: then they go out and have another game just like

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Speaker 8: that where the Bears are almost non existent in the

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Speaker 8: first half. Meanwhile, George Kittle has five catches for one

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Speaker 8: hundred and thirty eight yards and I'm googling how many

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Speaker 8: yards Shannon Sharp had in his yardage record for a

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Speaker 8: tight end game and they didn't really need it. Brock

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Speaker 8: Perdy was sixteen or eighteen in the first half had

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Speaker 8: a one hundred and fifty five point eight passer rating,

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Speaker 8: and the Bears come out second half that the offense.

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Speaker 7: Exists at the very least.

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Speaker 8: Caleb hits Romo Dunze for two touchdowns, but this was

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Speaker 8: a game where Isaac Garrindo eventually left the game and

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Speaker 8: so Patrick Taylor and Dubo Samuel are the remaining ball carriers.

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Speaker 7: But despite all that, Brock party left this game as well.

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Speaker 8: Hobbleton's Seamon Low and Hide could not look like even

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Speaker 8: the weird injury predictor doctors who diagnose on video on

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Speaker 8: Twitter probably couldn't even tell you what was going on

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Speaker 8: over Brock. But he comes back into the game and

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Speaker 8: Rock was good. The forty nine ers are good. Thought

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Speaker 8: that they would the Bears would perhaps get the coaching

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Speaker 8: firing bump did not work out for Thomas Brown.

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Speaker 1: Now, I wonder if the coach firing bump it confused

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Speaker 1: us here because it happened when they fired the offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator a couple of weeks ago, and it just didn't

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Speaker 1: happen because they did get a bump offensively for about

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Speaker 1: three weeks, but not here. I mean, the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers came into this game shook, having lost the last

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Speaker 1: two by a combined seventy three points. They didn't have

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams in the game, they did not have Nick

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Speaker 1: Bosa in the game, and yet, yeah, Grendo ends up

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Speaker 1: going for one hundred and twenty eight yards from scrimmage

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Speaker 1: and had a couple long catches actually in addition to

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Speaker 1: running the ball really well before he left with an injury.

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Speaker 3: And it's just a blood bath.

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Speaker 1: And suddenly you think, Okay, they're six and seven and

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Speaker 1: they have a quarterback and.

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Speaker 3: They're not out of this division race either.

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Speaker 2: I think that you can't like how many rungs on

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Speaker 2: a ladder can a coach climb in a season in

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Speaker 2: order to get the bump both times they find one's

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinators, he's climbed to interim head coach. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you can get the bump twice. You can't do it. There,

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Speaker 2: So not surprised. I am surprised that it was as

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Speaker 2: lopsided as it was, just because I thought the Bears

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Speaker 2: would bring more fight on the defensive side against a

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Speaker 2: Niners team that has completely overmatched in recent weeks. On

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Speaker 2: the flip side, I really needed this type of game

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Speaker 2: from brock Purty because he has just not looked largely

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Speaker 2: like himself over the last few weeks so much it

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Speaker 2: hurt my heart. When I dropped him in QB Index

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Speaker 2: this week, I was like, I don't want to put

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Speaker 2: him down there, but he just hasn't done enough down

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Speaker 2: he fell out of the top ten. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: that I can't even remember off the top of my head.

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Speaker 2: He's like mid teens, and this is the type of

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Speaker 2: game that'll make him climb back up. And it's again

554
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Speaker 2: because he's able to use the weapons around him. He's

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Speaker 2: able to use the George Kittles of the world and

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Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings and Gorendo pops off in his first start,

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Speaker 2: a start that he talked about during the week is

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Speaker 2: being he's very prepared for and he's excited to show

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Speaker 2: what he could do well. He showed it today. And

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Speaker 2: I also cautioned that this may be some fools gold,

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Speaker 2: because the forty nine ers team that we saw in

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Speaker 2: the previous weeks is still the team that I think

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Speaker 2: they are. Ultimately, they come back and get a really

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Speaker 2: nice bounce back win, but then they got to play

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Speaker 2: the Rams, the Dolphins the Lions and the Cardinals. Three

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Speaker 2: of those or two of those are division games. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be a tough battle for them. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to make any guarantees that like they're going

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Speaker 2: to climb back in the race. But for one week,

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Speaker 2: it was really nice to see those gold Helmets actually

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Speaker 2: put up a fight and dominate a team as opposed

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Speaker 2: to getting dominated so soundly like they've been in recent weeks.

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Speaker 7: I do have one case for optimism.

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Speaker 8: They got talanoa Whu fung A back for the first

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Speaker 8: time since Week five, able to play this game. Of course,

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Speaker 8: he had the injury late last season, missed the run

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Speaker 8: to the Super Bowl, where the defense has had significant problems.

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Speaker 7: They've they've had guys missing time.

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Speaker 8: Getting him back, perhaps we'll see an improvement on the

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Speaker 8: defensive side.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sets up a really intriguing Thursday night football,

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Speaker 1: Which is all I'm rooting for at this time of

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Speaker 1: year is for the game results to keep setting up

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Speaker 1: the games to have as sending and important value, especially

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Speaker 1: in those primetime windows. And yeah, it's a do or

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Speaker 1: die game for the forty nine ers. You have to

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Speaker 1: win that game if you're the forty nine ers and

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Speaker 1: it's obviously very important for the Rams trying to win

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Speaker 1: this division, but it does at least set it up

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night where if you can then win that

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Speaker 1: game against the Rams, you have a chance. Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: after the game was asked about the kind of the

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Speaker 1: talk about whether he could get traded or you know,

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Speaker 1: about his commitment, and he just said there's no place

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Speaker 1: in the world that he'd rather be more than there,

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Speaker 1: and his family feels just as strong as him, if

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Speaker 1: not stronger. GM John Lynch also dismissed the topic as comical.

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Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere, guys, and for what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: and it's not much, but I do love a little

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Speaker 1: salty unnamed source quote, even if it's not that believable.

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Speaker 1: Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune had a quote from

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Speaker 1: a source that said, Kyle prefers one of these two

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks pretty strongly and just left it at that.

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Speaker 3: And I think he's talking about Brock Party.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about the guy who we probably you know,

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Speaker 1: deserved to be kicked off KB Island, but both him

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Speaker 1: and Stafford with strong responses after being kicked off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he prefers Brock Purty to Caleb Williams, I think

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Speaker 1: was the subtext of this source.

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Speaker 8: Yes, source close to the forty nine ers, not really

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Speaker 8: close to the forty nine ers today at least al

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Speaker 8: Shanahan likes Brock party breaking move right.

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Speaker 1: They will be giving Brock Purtty that bag and that

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Speaker 1: money soon enough. No matter what happens down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: We're just getting going. We started the show with a

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Speaker 1: little NFC West talk. We're gonna come back from the

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Speaker 1: break with one of the most exciting narrative games of

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Speaker 1: the year in many different ways. Yeah, we're talking Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: Re receivers, Right, Sam Donald out of the shot gun.

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Speaker 6: Jones picks up a Blitzer cast right Klatt Addison touch down,

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Speaker 6: Jordan Kaddiston makes it thirty four twenty one and for

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Speaker 6: Sam Donald, that's a high five.

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Speaker 1: Great call there by our friend Paul Allen at KFA

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Speaker 1: N Yes, Sam Donald throws for five touchdow Downs, only

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Speaker 1: had six incompletions three hundred and forty seven yards.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he must have been dinking it, dunking it down the.

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Speaker 1: Field if you only had five in completions. No, he

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Speaker 1: had three plays over forty yards, had another long PI.

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Speaker 3: This band was dealing.

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Speaker 1: He got Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson Monster Fantasy days

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Speaker 1: and on a day where you watch Kirk Cousins throw

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Speaker 1: a couple more interceptions, It's just it's hard not to

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Speaker 1: compare the two because the difference in this game was

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Speaker 1: number one turnovers. You know, the Falcons turnover three times,

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Speaker 1: including a fumble on a kick return in that fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter where the Vikings outscore the Falcons twenty one to nothing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this was a tie game going into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: The Falcons out gained the Vikings overall and were dominant

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Speaker 1: yardage wise in the first half of this game, so

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Speaker 1: it was not as one side as the final score indicated.

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Speaker 1: But the difference was those turnovers, of which Kirk played

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Speaker 1: a prom part and Sam Donald didn't even sniff like

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Speaker 1: a near interception today. And then it was Sam Donald's

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Speaker 1: ability to win versus pressure and win versus the blitz.

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Speaker 1: This has been a theme all season, but that play

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Speaker 1: that he made to evade pressure and then I find

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Speaker 1: Jefferson down the field was fantastic. He ends up going

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Speaker 1: four for six for one hundred and sixty three yards

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Speaker 1: and two touchdowns against pressure. The numbers are very similar

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Speaker 1: against the blitz, and that was the difference. The quarterback

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Speaker 1: who makes all the plays that you ask for him,

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Speaker 1: and now he's making even more shook like Donald is is.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm here, I'm not. I'm not on the island anymore.

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Speaker 1: Like I cannot doubt Sam Donald in any way, shape

656
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Speaker 1: or for him the way he is.

657
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Speaker 3: And what can I do, because I just gotta watch

658
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Speaker 3: the ball. This is the ball. Try to watch the ball.

659
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Speaker 2: Ball, and Sam Donald is playing the ball right now.

660
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Speaker 2: He's playing it well. He plays well under pressure. That's

661
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Speaker 2: been the biggest I think in this season for him

662
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Speaker 2: in his growth, is that the pressure he is no

663
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Speaker 2: longer seeing ghosts. He is now confident on the opposite,

664
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Speaker 2: still delivers, especially in key moments. I mean, there was

665
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Speaker 2: that Cardinals game where he ripped a couple passes down

666
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Speaker 2: the scene, one of them to Jefferson to set up

667
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Speaker 2: that comeback. And then today, by the way, let's just

668
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pitch this right now, they have that big

669
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Speaker 2: obnoxious horn that I hate in Minnesota. How about let's

670
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Speaker 2: add something else to the repertoire an explosion, a sound

671
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: that is like an explosion, a bomb going off, because

672
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Speaker 2: that's what happened in the fourth quarter.

673
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Speaker 8: Of the scene.

674
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Speaker 2: It was tied at twenty eight to twenty eight, twenty

675
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Speaker 2: one to twenty one, excuse me, and it ends up

676
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: forty two to twenty one. They explode, they drop up

677
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Speaker 2: Bob on the Falcons.

678
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Speaker 3: I think the horn is their thing. I vote to

679
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Speaker 3: keep the horn.

680
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: I like the horn and bomb bomb can be this occasional.

681
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: After the third touchdown, I can bumble interception down to

682
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: the last three possessions for the Falcons. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

683
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: end of game for the Vikings. That is how you

684
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Speaker 2: make a statement and prove that you're in the better

685
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Speaker 2: spot than Kirk Cousins.

686
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Speaker 4: Currency.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and ultimately it may just be Kirk Cousins that

688
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Speaker 8: turns out to be the difference in these.

689
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Speaker 1: Suit Okay, it's Getty a little of tents here, it's

690
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Speaker 1: Getty a little inteh the bomb, I'm staring daddy.

691
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Speaker 7: The Vikings were.

692
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 8: About to use the combustibles to get things going and

693
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Speaker 8: do more pillaging and plundering over on the other side

694
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Speaker 8: where Sam Donald to continue the Donald discussion on the run,

695
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Speaker 8: which is next gen stats tracks throws where you're.

696
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Speaker 7: Running eight miles an hour or above.

697
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 8: Didn't have a single incompletion through one hundred and twelve

698
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 8: yards and a touchdown a perfect passer rating.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to the touchdown to Jefferson that I was

700
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Speaker 1: talking about JJ in motion.

701
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Speaker 6: To the rank heard Nate Minnesota sixth or eleven on

702
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Speaker 6: third down.

703
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: Sam under a lot of pressure. How'd you get away

704
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: from that? Now we cruise d justin? What open touchdown?

705
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson for the forty eight yard reception?

706
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: What's Sam Donald?

707
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 6: Was Budini for the day and the Vikings have taken

708
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 6: up twenty thirteen lead.

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Speaker 1: That play was so typical of this game because it

710
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Speaker 1: was a third and eight where Falcons get pressure. I

711
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Speaker 1: promise you the Falcons did so many things well in

712
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Speaker 1: this game. They pressured Sam Donald consistently until the fourth quarter,

713
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Speaker 1: but before that the pressure rate was at like fifty percent.

714
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Speaker 1: Still finished almost at forty, which is very high. They

715
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Speaker 1: got four sacks of Sam. Darnald kirk Cousins outside the

716
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Speaker 1: two interceptions did play well.

717
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Speaker 3: He threw forty three forty four.

718
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Speaker 1: A lot of those throws were down the field and

719
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Speaker 1: the two interceptions were totally on him and killed what

720
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Speaker 1: was otherwise a good performance. But he did make a

721
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: lot of positive plays, and Rahee Morris pointed that out

722
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: after the fact that he was playing better. But the

723
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Speaker 1: secondary of the Falcons, there's no answer. When you have

724
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Speaker 1: to cover, you have to double cover Jefferson. You got

725
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: guys falling all over the place. Meanwhile, Addison's going eight

726
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Speaker 1: for one thirty three and three touchdowns.

727
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and Jordan Addison caught a lot of those balls

728
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Speaker 8: with defenders draped on him. Poor Di Alford on that

729
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Speaker 8: Justin Jefferson play. If you're for watching the broadcast, you

730
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Speaker 8: look up because Sam Donald gets away from pressure, he

731
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Speaker 8: throws the ball. Alfred is futility diving at least seventeen

732
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Speaker 8: yards away from Justin Jefferson. And the reason that happened

733
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Speaker 8: because if you see, if you look at the all

734
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Speaker 8: twenty two, Jefferson's opened very early. Yes, his arm is

735
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Speaker 8: up the whole way. So all Alford SE's is the

736
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Speaker 8: best receiver in the NFL running by himself. So he

737
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 8: just puts his head down. He has no idea where

738
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Speaker 8: the ball is. He just hears the crowd and dives

739
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Speaker 8: in a random direction, which makes for great television. It's

740
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Speaker 8: frustrating for the Falcons defense, which, like you mentioned, so

741
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Speaker 8: five sacks of Justin Herbert, five sackses I mean four

742
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Speaker 8: sacks of Sam Donald. They've almost equaled their season SAT

743
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Speaker 8: production in these last two games. Whatever Raheem Morris figured

744
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 8: out in the by it's been great. The problem is

745
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 8: the quarterback can't sustain drives and make key plays when

746
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Speaker 8: they need him to make them.

747
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Speaker 3: Right.

748
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Speaker 1: The running game was fantastic for the Falcons today as well,

749
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty eight on the ground, Bijon goes

750
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Speaker 1: twenty two for ninety two. Aljier had a couple outstanding

751
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: runs today, ends up with sixty three on the ground

752
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: and Mooney goes deep. It was a little too much

753
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod for my own liking, and he had

754
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: the fumble on the return, but he goes eight for

755
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Speaker 1: ninety eight. There wasn't that much separating but it kind

756
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: of points out like one of these teams is eleven

757
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: and two and has a real chance to be the

758
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: one seed still in the NFC that they just find

759
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: ways to win. I mean, I watched Kevin O'Connell's post

760
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: games locker room speech thinking we'll get something from it.

761
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: It's like five minutes long, and he hands out fifteen

762
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: game balls because there's just so many guys that are

763
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: awesome on this team right now, he can't help himself.

764
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: You're right, Addison has turned into one hundred and seventy

765
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Speaker 1: pounds one of the best contested catch receivers in the league,

766
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Speaker 1: and Jefferson has a monster game. Cashman made a bunch

767
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: of plays, and yes, Kirk Cousins has eight interceptions and

768
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: four fumbles over the last four weeks, which is absolutely brutal.

769
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris was asked again after the game if he's

770
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: thinking about changing his quarterback.

771
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Speaker 7: Kirk Cousins off quarterback.

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Speaker 12: Who have the ability to go watch this tape just

773
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 12: like we do every single week. You know, Kirk played

774
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 12: better than he did the week before. We got a

775
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 12: chance to go out there and focus on us and

776
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 12: get a chance to go out there and really work

777
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 12: on what we do and what we do well, and

778
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 12: we'll do whatever's best to go win football games, and

779
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 12: Kurt's definitely a part of that.

780
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: We've come just three four weeks away from the Falcons

781
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: seemingly having an intermountable lead in the NFC South and

782
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: we'll get to the Bucks later. But they've blown it

783
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: and there's still four weeks to go. They're not out

784
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: of it yet because their schedule, after a tough stretch,

785
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: finally does open up. The toughest team they play the

786
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: rest of the way is at Washington, So division race

787
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: is not over and Kirk is going to be the

788
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: one leading the charge. But my god, there's something special

789
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: happening in Minnesota this season. It is time now for

790
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: the Sunday Drive, presented by the all new hybrid Toyota.

791
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: Camry didn't think that the Panthers would have a chance

792
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: to be making a game winning drive in Philadelphia, but

793
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: they had a chance.

794
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 13: Trips right lower fever of the far side. Could they

795
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 13: even win the game right here?

796
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Speaker 1: But goes Young.

797
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Speaker 7: He's big Chase.

798
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Speaker 13: He's running with the football, still pumping, running, firing and

799
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 13: down Eagles.

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Speaker 4: W slay slay an unbelievable job on the back end.

801
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Speaker 1: That's why he's such a pro slay slay. That's Mike Quick,

802
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: not doing an imitation of like a twelve year old

803
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: girl after you know, seeing their friend do something cool,

804
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: just saying. One of the great cornerbacks of his era

805
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Darius Slay making a big time play. Merril Reese on

806
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: w ip Man. The Eagles gotta lost this game. I

807
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: can't believe it. I was really tempted to make the

808
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: highlight play Xavier lea Get having a chance on a

809
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: dime from Bryce Young with about forty five seconds to go.

810
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: He was going to catch the ball right near the

811
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Speaker 1: goal line. It goes through his hands with the right call.

812
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Speaker 1: But that was the difference between the Eagles, you know,

813
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Speaker 1: having to score a field goal in about thirty seconds

814
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: left and just getting that victory twenty two to sixteen.

815
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Speaker 3: They survive.

816
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: Patrick, you watch this game closely, what stands out the

817
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Speaker 1: most team?

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Speaker 8: What stands out to me was I assumed that the

819
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Speaker 8: windows and Bryce Young has been completing passes and very

820
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 8: tight windows.

821
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Speaker 7: I assumed that they would be closed.

822
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Speaker 8: I didn't know that Bryce's real talent that separates him

823
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Speaker 8: in anticipation would help against this Philadelphia Eagles defense.

824
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: Coach by Vic Vandree, I was wrong.

825
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 8: As much as I believe in Bryce Young, I did

826
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Speaker 8: not think that they would be in this game late,

827
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Speaker 8: especially considering that the Panthers run defense and just how

828
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Speaker 8: bad it has been.

829
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Speaker 7: But Philadelphia couldn't.

830
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Speaker 8: Sustain drives some interesting sex taken by Jalen Hurts where

831
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 8: the pressure is getting to him and he just decides

832
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Speaker 8: to turtle up. I guess perhaps being too careful with

833
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 8: the football, but you mentioned it. There was a fourth

834
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Speaker 8: down where, just like last week, Bryce has to have

835
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Speaker 8: an anticipation hit Adam Thlen on the sideline. If I'm

836
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Speaker 8: not mistaken, I believe it was the same play where

837
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Speaker 8: Adam Thlen converts a fourth down and they set it

838
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 8: up perfectly xavierly get comes open. I'm gonna have to

839
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Speaker 8: check next gen stats to see how often he's running

840
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 8: right to left. Maybe some lack of confidence in that

841
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 8: direction is what causes him to dive for the football

842
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 8: when if he just keeps his stride he walks into

843
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 8: the end zone on a game winner in the closing moments, but.

844
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Speaker 1: In a beautiful throw too that that would have been

845
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: the moment, and it wouldn't have been a game winner.

846
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: It would have been a forty five seconds left for

847
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Speaker 1: the Eagles to get.

848
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Speaker 3: The ball back with one just saying to take the lead.

849
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and anything could happen at that point, but it's.

850
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Speaker 8: I know the Panthers are probably tired of moral victories,

851
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 8: but they added another one today.

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00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Philadelphia stays alive for their bid to get

853
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: that one seed Detroit. With all these tough games down

854
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: the stretch, including the Bills coming up next week, someone

855
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: there is going to be disappointed the Eagles have same

856
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: record as the Vikings. I don't know if you would

857
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: say there's concerns about the passing game. Okay, there are concerns.

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Speaker 3: If A J.

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Speaker 1: Brown has concerns, I'm concerned. Let's let's listen to a J.

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Speaker 1: Brown after the game.

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Speaker 12: Offense was incredit What are some things you think they

862
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 12: need that the offense needs to improve on back passing?

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Speaker 5: Ja, I know everybody wants to get a rid pontres

864
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 5: apology that you know, the receivers, just like running backs,

865
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Speaker 5: want to get in rhythm.

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Speaker 2: How hard is it as a receiver to get into

867
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Speaker 2: a rhythm when you guys.

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Speaker 7: Only throwing the ball twenty times?

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Speaker 1: Incredibly so, I don't know what that song was in

870
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Speaker 1: the background. That was Elliott shore Park's his video there,

871
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: great job, great questions. Both AJ Brown and DeVante Smith

872
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: after the game were pretty frustrated. According to the reporters,

873
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Speaker 1: they are considering they won. Both had four catches, Brown

874
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: for forty three yards, DeVante Smith for thirty seven. The

875
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: Eagles had eighty three net passing yards today and not good.

876
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: If it was like a one week thing, then I

877
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: don't think you'd see that frustration boiling over. But the

878
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: passing game has been disjointed, I would say for the

879
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: last three to four weeks. I don't think it's fair

880
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: to put it on the running game that somehow the

881
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: running games fall the passing games disjointed. It's just it's

882
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: not quite all the way there. Are you concerned at

883
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: all about that shook?

884
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: Yes, because the only reason or the only time I've

885
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: found that they've succeeded through the air has been when

886
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: they've gone up tempo, and they only do that in

887
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: small stretches in games. They did that I think last week,

888
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: and that's usually what unlocks it and what ends up

889
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: being is a lot of consecutive passes to aj Brown

890
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: for eight, ten, fifteen yards and moves the ball down

891
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: the field, and it just happens for small periods in

892
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: a game. It's not consistent. And I think that you

893
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: kind of see both sides of what the Eagles are

894
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: right now, which is like you have Saquon, who's a dog,

895
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: who's a monster, who finishes games incredibly well, who puts

896
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: another great stat line together today to bolster's MVP case.

897
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: And then on the other side, you have the team

898
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: that still can't throw the ball well. It's so much

899
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: that their top two receivers are visibly frustrated after a win,

900
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: like music's playing in the locker room and they're upset

901
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: because they know that they're not where they could be

902
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: right now. And I'm kind of concerned that with a

903
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: month left now, that they're maybe not going to figure

904
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: it out because it's kind of endemic like it's been.

905
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: Most of the season has been like this, save for

906
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: a few stretches there. I mean, I know they've won

907
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: a ton of games in a row, but they haven't

908
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: been perfect through the passing game for a long time.

909
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: And it's been covered up by the fact they have

910
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: Saquon and they have these small stretches. And when you

911
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, suddenly, if a team focuses all

912
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: of its efforts on stopping Saquon, can you revive that

913
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: passing game. It's just a small weakness in a team

914
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: that I have a lot I really highly regard right now,

915
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: especially because of their defense, the way they played, Like

916
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: the fact that the Panthers push them to the limit

917
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: doesn't concern me. It's it's how their offense is operating

918
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: right now and looking ahead.

919
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 8: That's what worries me over On, I think, because the

920
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 8: Eagles are going to lead the league in angry wins

921
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 8: like forever.

922
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: That's just that's a chiefe thing this year.

923
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 8: But fair both both of them, two very good football teams,

924
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 8: decidedly different levels of frustration in the fan basis after wins.

925
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 8: The Panthers have the ball for thirty three minutes in

926
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 8: this game. I mean the Eagles were seven of twelve

927
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 8: on third down. Jalen Hurts only threw the ball twenty

928
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 8: one times, right, so Saquon got twenty carries. They're just

929
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 8: I know, AJ and Davante and everybody wants the ball more.

930
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but twenty one times means he was sacked. How

931
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: many times in this game? Four by the Panthers is

932
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: not good. That's twenty five dropbacks for eighty three yards.

933
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: It's pretty bad.

934
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, it's it's not ideal.

935
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 8: But what I'm saying is I think it's not a

936
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 8: panic button type situation. The Panthers have been in close

937
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 8: games with good teams. Here, they were on the road,

938
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 8: bryce played while they they had an opportunity to win

939
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 8: the game, the Eagles still won the left to sue.

940
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: It was it was an ultimate spot for a bit

941
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 3: of a letdown game.

942
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: They've had a lot of big time games in a row,

943
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: again against good, important competition. They have a tough Steelers

944
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: game next week, and it was a big win to

945
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: try to batten down this NFC East title because you

946
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: just kind of assume at this point they're gonna win it.

947
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: They're up to ninety seven percent to win the NFC East,

948
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: so still very important that they got it done. I

949
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: do think the key factor here is they haven't had

950
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: the trio AJ Brown, Devon de Smith, and Dallas Gatter

951
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: on the same field at the same time very often.

952
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: And there isn't a bigger cliff in terms of from

953
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: your third target to your fourth, and now that you

954
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: take Goddard out of there, then there is on this

955
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: Eagles team, and so I think it's easier to roll

956
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: your coverages to the two wide receivers. Grant Calcotara's their

957
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: third leading receiver. They never have found a third wide receiver,

958
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: and Goddard surprisingly got put on IR. I did not

959
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: know his injury was that serious. So he's out at

960
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: least the next four weeks. I think there is hope

961
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: that he'll be back potentially for the playoffs, but he

962
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: is not going to be helping them until week eighteen

963
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: at the very earliest. Still, they get out of there

964
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: with the win, and yeah, the Panthers, they hold on

965
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: to their spot in tankthon it's crowded. There's seven teams

966
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: there no eight teams with either two or three wins,

967
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: so it's crowded at the bottom and a fourth win

968
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: would have put them in a bad spot. And yeah,

969
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: how about Adam Thielen goes over one hundred yards once again?

970
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: That was the Sunday Drive presented by the all new

971
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: hybrid Toyota Camera. Whatever your vibe, it's a camera vibe.

972
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Learn more at Toyota dot com slash camray. So we

973
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: mentioned the Falcons lost a little earlier, the Bucks coming

974
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: off their by in this incredibly soft portion of their schedule,

975
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 1: could they take advantage against the Raiders.

976
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 14: Six yards to hang on to it, get a fresh

977
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 14: lighted announced third down and six shotgun.

978
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 7: Look, it's out type pass pawn by Man McMillan. How

979
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 7: much funny outside the numbers?

980
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 14: Ten five three two one touchdown, Tampa Bay touchdown, Tampa

981
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 14: Bay fire of the cabbage. That's the tigger, the final mail,

982
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 14: and the Raiders will go home without a way today.

983
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: That's right, Jeene Deckerhoff my man on WFUS. If it's

984
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: a Bucks highlight, it's usually a short Baker Mayfield passed

985
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: all beautifully blocked and a lot of yards after the catch.

986
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: It's just a fact.

987
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: Mayfield goes for two ninety five three touchdowns, does have

988
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: a couple interceptions, and the Raiders hang around longer than

989
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: expect did because the Bucks had such a quick lead

990
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: in this game. But the Bucks win twenty eight to thirteen.

991
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: They are seven and six, and they have sole possession

992
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: of first place in the NFC South Shook any concern

993
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: that they didn't put it away earlier, or do you

994
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: like what you saw out of the Bucks?

995
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: Well, first off, long live the chief Baker Mayfield hater

996
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, glad you are still a top of your throne.

997
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: That was great, nice little dig there, and some of

998
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: it's valid because Baker is doing what we've talked about

999
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: in recent weeks, which is kind of like running out

1000
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: of time. His internal clock has gone off, but he

1001
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: refuses to give up on plays, and it's producing mistakes.

1002
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 2: It's producing an interception in the end zone just before half,

1003
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: really nice played by Klebon Chason to make a pick

1004
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: earlier in the game on a short pass. He tipped

1005
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: up mirror and to himself for the interception. But Baker

1006
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: also fumbles possession away. It's just not very clean. It's

1007
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: not consistent, and for a while we could blame it

1008
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: on the fact he didn't have Mike Evans. Well, Mike

1009
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: Evans is back, and he's he comes in and out

1010
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: of the picture sometimes. They were just talking about on

1011
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: the broadcast how he leaned so much on him, but

1012
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: he wasn't really making much of a difference. He hits

1013
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: him for a pas that I think they end up

1014
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: turning the ball over on that on that series. So

1015
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: it's just it's not as consistent as I would like

1016
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: to see from them, and yet they still win the game.

1017
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: They played with their food for like two and a

1018
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: half quarters in this game today, because they knew they

1019
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: were playing the Raiders. They went out to a fourteen

1020
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: nothing lead. The Raiders made it interesting. They made it

1021
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: fourteen to ten. They scored off of a turnover, and

1022
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: then for a while they were just kind of trading

1023
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: mistakes until one team decaid, you know what, let's finish

1024
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: this thing off. I would like to see the Bucks

1025
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: be a more dominant team against the low league team

1026
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: like the Raiders than they were on Sunday. That starts

1027
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: at quarterback. They also lost Bucky Irving in this game

1028
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: to injury. Rashad White, you know, finishes the job seventeen

1029
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: for ninety and a touchdown. It just wasn't the resounding

1030
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: win I was looking for. It still a win, that's fine.

1031
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: I might be splitting hairs here, But as we get

1032
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: into the stretch run of the season here and they're

1033
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: really trying to finish off this comeback in the NFC South,

1034
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to see more consistency from this offense.

1035
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: And it starts again with the quarterback, who is a

1036
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: never say die guy, but might need to learn how

1037
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: to give up on a player two along the way.

1038
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, there there was a sequence there in the second

1039
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 8: half where Jack Jones gets called for pass interference and

1040
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 8: they go right back at Jack Jones very aggressively does

1041
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 8: Baker Mayfield. This is in the red zone. Jack Jones

1042
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 8: picks it off the ray. The Raiders in this game,

1043
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 8: it told Aidan O'Connell gets a very late hit by

1044
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 8: Elijah Canzy pushed from behind, leaves the game in an

1045
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 8: air cast, and then once it's Desmond Ridder time, essentially

1046
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 8: the game is gonna be over no matter what. The

1047
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 8: Bucks still had to get yards in points in the

1048
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 8: second half to win. There was a Mike Evans thirty

1049
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 8: nine yard catch that ultimately took him to I think

1050
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 8: sixty nine yards, just barely locking up my.

1051
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 7: Write this down, just barely.

1052
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, your.

1053
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: So.

1054
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 8: I thought big Mike was gonna get the ninety five

1055
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 8: or so he needs the average did not finish with

1056
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 8: that because there's some issues in this past game, Gregan.

1057
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's Bucky Irving not necessarily being there.

1058
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 8: They've had injuries be huge this season. They can't quite

1059
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 8: get all the pieces together, but when they do they

1060
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 8: look good. They didn't look good today.

1061
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean they had seven point one yards for play.

1062
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: They get over four hundred yards in the end. The

1063
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: opening script counts too, and Liam Cohen has been among

1064
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: the best in the league at that they team to

1065
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: start their games so fast and their running game being

1066
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: able to get a big run out of Sean Tucker

1067
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: and survive when Bucky Irving goes down is big. Yeah,

1068
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: we're probably getting Desmond Ridder for a month now, which

1069
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: is crazy that the Raiders have to play four more

1070
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: games in this season. Like I was thinking, with some

1071
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: of these games we have coming up. We haven't gotten

1072
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: to the drugs yet, but it's like you would you

1073
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: would want, like it'd be fine to just sim their

1074
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: seasons to the end so they don't need to play. Yeah,

1075
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: but they have to play these other teams that do matter,

1076
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: and that would be a competitive balance problem. So Desmond

1077
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Ridder is gonna play. I guess the positive if you're

1078
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: a Ridder head or a Raiders fan. His numbers were

1079
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: almost identical to Aidan O'Connell. O'Connell eleven for nineteen for

1080
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: one oh four, Ridder twelve for eighteen for one oh one.

1081
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just kind of the same, but we did have.

1082
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 8: Aidan O'Connell's first career scramble yard Oh I'm a four

1083
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 8: yard jaunt for first down. The play took about ten seconds,

1084
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 8: but he got it. An O'Connell has scrambled, but it.

1085
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: Feels like a pyrrhic victory on a day where his

1086
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: leg exploded. Unfortunately.

1087
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, well soon see.

1088
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, get better.

1089
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: Shout out to Michael Mayer two, who had personal troubles

1090
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: earlier this season, was out for personal reasons for a

1091
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: long time. I know there was concerned about him. Now

1092
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: he's coming back and he's playing good football. Seven for

1093
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: sixty eight. There they are at two and eleven, and

1094
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: like I said, the Bucks in first place in the

1095
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: NFC South. I don't think they're necessarily playing any better. Shook.

1096
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: They just got the soft part of their schedule and

1097
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: have taken care of it to their credit.

1098
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: Three and zero.

1099
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: They get a tougher game in La next week, and

1100
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: in the locker room afterwards, they were blaring going back

1101
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: to Cali immediately, so they couldn't even enjoy this win.

1102
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: They were already thinking about next week. That's what That's

1103
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: what winners do.

1104
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: It was it, what version of it was? It was

1105
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: that the biggest Malls one or the lesser known ll

1106
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: cool J song that my mom loves to reference all

1107
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 2: the time.

1108
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 7: It was Biggie.

1109
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm assuming, Okay, I assume so, but I'm old enough

1110
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,959
Speaker 1: that I don't think of that as necessarily the lesson.

1111
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: No, it's the superior version.

1112
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: That's definitely superior. A right, you know what else is superior?

1113
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's talk about them a little bit

1114
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: after the break. Yes, Shook watched his favorite team, the Brownies,

1115
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: face the Steelers for the second time in three weeks.

1116
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 15: Back in a minute, Calvin Austin in motion left to right,

1117
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 15: Wilson gets a snap back looking at a.

1118
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 3: Fire over to the middle of the field.

1119
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 7: It is complete.

1120
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: It is a touchdown.

1121
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh Steelers Pat fryar Booth makes the reception and boots

1122
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 6: them all up into.

1123
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 3: The stands here at Atrashuer Stadium.

1124
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what a great job getting inside position on

1125
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 6: the defensive back then being able to score on that

1126
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 6: scorched and smoking ball road by Russ.

1127
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: That is Craig Wolfley. We didn't get Ron his brother

1128
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: on the show earlier, but we got Craig in there.

1129
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: Rob King on the call as well for WDV. The

1130
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: Steelers get a twenty seven to fourteen victory over the Browns.

1131
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: Takes a little while for this Steelers machine to get going.

1132
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: But did you really think that Mike Tomlin was gonna

1133
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: let this team lose to the grounds twice in three weeks. No,

1134
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. And ultimately shook it was. It

1135
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: was pretty comfortable for US Steelers win.

1136
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they you know, they got up to a slow

1137
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: start early punt, James Winston makes a nice start to

1138
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy for a touchdown, and then they just kind

1139
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: of settled in and became the Steelers again.

1140
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: You know, this is a game.

1141
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: We're coming off of a four hundred yard performance from

1142
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, so everybody's focusing on the Steelers offense and

1143
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: how suddenly explosive they can be with Russ and Russ

1144
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: is having a great stretch of football and he had

1145
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: another strong game today, but he finished with one hundred

1146
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: and fifty eight passing yards. This game was one by

1147
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: their defense. This game was won by Alex high Smith,

1148
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: by TJ. Watt, by Cam Hayward. You could just name

1149
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: all the guys down the list. They made play after play.

1150
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: They capitalized on Jameis Winston risks. They picked him off

1151
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: every time. The Browns looked like they might have had

1152
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: a shot to get back into the game, including when

1153
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: Dustin Hopkins missed two field goals. The Steelers just took

1154
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: advantage and ran away with it. But Russ is playing again,

1155
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: some very solid football, some very high quality football, making

1156
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: passes like that the Pat Freyermouth. It's actually it's become

1157
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: a treat, like as somebody who watched the slow decline

1158
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: of Russ and Seattle and Denver, I thought he was done,

1159
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: and watching him fitness offense and the way that it operates,

1160
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: and how balanced they are because they can run the

1161
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: ball effectively well too, even if the numbers don't show it,

1162
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: they can. It's really fun to watch them. They're a

1163
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: damn good football team. There's nothing I can say about them.

1164
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: That okay, but every game I happen to text with

1165
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: like a Russ Hayter where it's like every game they

1166
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: think it's their game to finally start enjoying, like Russ struggling,

1167
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: and it always starts. It seems like it starts that

1168
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: way half the time, except for against the Bengals, like

1169
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: at one point he had thrown he had dropped back

1170
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: like sixteen times and they had forty six yards, and

1171
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: they were just punting and punting and punting, and he

1172
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: was making you know, bad decisions and stuff, and they

1173
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: always seemed to figure it out to their credit. Like,

1174
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: what do you think it was that that changed in

1175
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: this game for the Browns other than maybe it was

1176
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: just opportunity that the Browns defense could only hold up

1177
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: for so long and the Steelers just kept getting the

1178
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: ball back to him.

1179
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate to say because it sounds super cliche,

1180
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: but halftime adjustments, Like Russ gets to halftime and he's

1181
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 2: completed a grand total of eight passes on sixteen attempts

1182
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: for forty six yards. The Steelers has an offense, I

1183
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: have one hundred and twenty seven yards. The Browns only

1184
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: had one hundred and twenty four. And yet the Steelers

1185
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: had found a way to take a thirteen to seven

1186
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: because their defense and given them short fields. Third quarter arrives,

1187
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: Russ completes six of eight for ninety one and two touchdowns,

1188
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 2: and suddenly it's a landslide victory for them. He figured

1189
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: it out. A lot of that is the adjustments, figuring

1190
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: out what Jim Schwartz is doing, how to capitalize, and

1191
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: then by the fourth quarter, you have Grant delp With

1192
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: looking up to this guy just wondering why, God, why

1193
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: is this happening to us again? The Cleveland Browns, you

1194
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: know a team that that fights hard. I give them credit.

1195
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 2: They fight hard even when they have pretty much nothing

1196
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: to play for it. No matter what kevinste Fancy says

1197
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: on Hard Knocks in season with the AFC North because

1198
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: we're in the playoffs now, no, your season's over.

1199
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: Well that was that was when they technically had not

1200
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: been eliminated, I think was his. Yeah, but when they had,

1201
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: they had to run the table. At that point I did.

1202
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: I did finally get around to watching that, and there

1203
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: were there were more interesting moments in the first ten

1204
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: minutes of AFC North Hard Knocks than the entire Bears season.

1205
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: It's not even close.

1206
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: I would say that one episode was worth more than

1207
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: the entire last two to three Hard Knocks, like the

1208
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: one since Dan Campbell. Basically yeah, I know, but we've

1209
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: seen in season hard Knocks before and they haven't been

1210
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: as good. They had really good access. I'm just saying

1211
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: it was good.

1212
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: Hearing this music. I feel like I need to give

1213
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 2: a speech that's going to end with like a great

1214
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: clincher like Mike Tomlin did as he started that episode.

1215
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: I have to how many speeches I want to have

1216
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: an ex player on to talk about? Is it that

1217
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: necessary to have this many speeches?

1218
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 7: I think producers like speeches.

1219
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: I think I know them. No, I know that from

1220
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: the Hard Knocks perspective, they're fantastic. I'm saying.

1221
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: You're those players, right. How many speeches have you heard

1222
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor say? How many is he making every week?

1223
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: Because we see at least two or three. I mean,

1224
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: just imagine if when we came to work, there was

1225
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: like five speeches a week minimum. I mean because the

1226
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: position coaches, there's like five speeches a day. I think

1227
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: I think the new efficiency, the moneyball in the NFL

1228
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: would be like, let's cut down on the speeches a

1229
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: little bit.

1230
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 7: Our guys. Here's what we're facing today in ever changing

1231
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 7: media landscape. Yeah, that would that would probably that would

1232
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 7: probably drone.

1233
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: On just to touch when you hired me ten years ago.

1234
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: If I had my first day in LA if I

1235
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: watched in the newsroom and you gave me one of

1236
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: those speeches, I'd be like, maybe I shouldn't.

1237
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: It might be good to be honest, maybe we could

1238
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: use a little more on one or two speeches a

1239
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: year in the NFL daily world, better than none, but

1240
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: they have like fifteen a week.

1241
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: Anyways, hard knocks great, great stuff.

1242
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: When I was watching that, you can understand, not that

1243
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: you couldn't just without seeing it, but you can't understand. Well,

1244
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: that's why Mike Tomlin's teams only goes so low, you

1245
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. His attempt to detail and keeping

1246
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: the team together is such a unique combination.

1247
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 3: It's pretty special.

1248
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, and a bunch of guys that know what they're

1249
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 8: doing can execute to a high level and there's really

1250
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 8: never a glaring deficiency. And then on the other side,

1251
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 8: the Brown's trying to figure things out. Positive for the Browns,

1252
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 8: this is I think the best Nick Chubb has looked

1253
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 8: since they returned from his injury. Some of the explosion

1254
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 8: was back, of course Nick Chubb otherworldly athlete. It's gonna

1255
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 8: take tom to try to get back to that. But

1256
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 8: a solid performance. Four yards four plus yards for Gary

1257
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 8: against the good defense. The Browns just overmatched here.

1258
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: And I will say I think the Jerry Judy trade

1259
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: is going to pay off for them. Like the stretches

1260
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: had the last couple of games really, since James has

1261
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: come in, he's looked like the guy that I think

1262
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: they thought they were getting, and he's going to be

1263
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: a key piece of their future, even in a down season.

1264
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, let's let's listen to Andrews Ciciliano's call,

1265
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: just because he's our buddy, and he's going to be

1266
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily on Thursday night recapping that Rams forty

1267
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: nine Ers game.

1268
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: But he was in Pittsburgh on Sunday for the back Winston.

1269
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: The gun has the ball steps up in the pocket,

1270
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: he may run now throwing what Judy has it touchdown?

1271
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy thirty five yards. Jamis on the run as

1272
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: he got to the line of scrimmage, let it go.

1273
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: Shoty caught it at the vibe and waltzed into the

1274
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: end zone. The Jamis creation plays have been surprising.

1275
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: I've been a Jamis fans for a while and he's

1276
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: not a guy who makes a lot of plays on

1277
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: the run, and he's done that this year. And the

1278
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: Lord did listen because he delivered him from pick six's

1279
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: today just two regular old interceptions but no pick six is. Interestingly,

1280
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Sevanski would not commit to Jameis Winston being the

1281
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: starter next week after the so we might be seeing

1282
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: some DTR.

1283
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was just answering it, Meglee.

1284
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1285
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: We might be seeing some DTR at some point. And

1286
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: I did want to point out this note from Bill Barnwell.

1287
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: Canarius Tony played only two snaps in the fourth quarter,

1288
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: both on special teams. On one of them, he did

1289
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: a fair catch and then was flagged for taunting after

1290
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: the fair catch.

1291
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: That's a first. They were down multiple scores at the time.

1292
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: The other play he was in on the fourth quarter,

1293
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: he muffed a punt and the Steelers recovered.

1294
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: Let's go to uh the last game here before we.

1295
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: Get to Sunday night football, at least that involves the

1296
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: team still in the playoff mix. Yes, the Browns are

1297
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: officially eliminated. Would the Jets be officially eliminated on Sunday

1298
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins?

1299
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 7: The tango yolo o shot back to throw?

1300
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: Which protector throws the canzone touchdown?

1301
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 7: Dolphins win? John Smith, what a judge Brown? Donald Smith.

1302
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 3: Two off?

1303
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 7: Good night, Dolphins gotta win.

1304
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: I love the Dolphins song.

1305
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't know the words, but I love how they

1306
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: play it right away and all the fans know it

1307
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: and they sing it and people don't even know about it.

1308
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: It's a cool, cool little thing they got going down

1309
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: there in Miami. They're getting some wins.

1310
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: That was Jimmy Ceffalo and Joe Rose on WBGG.

1311
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: Yes, what a comeback.

1312
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,959
Speaker 1: Not just the Dolphins coming back to win this game

1313
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: at the very end to force overtime. They were also

1314
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: trailing twenty three to fifteen heady into the fourth quarter.

1315
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: But how about this miracle.

1316
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: Comeback for John new Smith no catches in fantasy in regulation,

1317
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: and he finishes with three for forty four and a

1318
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: touchdown on one ot drive. And yes, what a comeback

1319
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: for me and my picks on the Pick Show. Because

1320
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: I took Miami minus five and a half. You didn't

1321
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: think it could happened, But they somehow got into overtime

1322
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: and they covered that score, and so I'm sure there

1323
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: were a lot of people out there with some money

1324
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: on Miami.

1325
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: They got it going. And oh yeah, wait our survivor

1326
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: the music.

1327
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 8: No, Greg has to think about his pick, but I

1328
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 8: have to remind Greg that he's on a team, all right.

1329
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 8: He Steve Wish and myself are on a legendary run

1330
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 8: called Survivor picks and we yes, we together everyone at

1331
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 8: Cheeze Morgaret, we survive.

1332
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 7: Because tua I guess coach Mike Mack remembered that, hey,

1333
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 7: John O. Smith is a huge part of this team.

1334
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 8: In overtime, one of the first plays they throw out

1335
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 8: the quick screen to John OUs Smith gets several yards

1336
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 8: on a first down.

1337
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 7: So what do they do? They go right back, Yeah,

1338
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 7: same exact play.

1339
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 8: John O Smith pops up, starts screaming in everyone's faces,

1340
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 8: where it's like, all right, John ou mode has been engaged,

1341
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 8: and it leads to the to the game winning touchdown.

1342
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 7: But as you mentioned, Greg, it took a lot to

1343
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 7: get there. They're down late.

1344
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 8: The Jets out gained them four hundred and two yards

1345
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 8: to three seventy five. They almost doubled them in rush yardage.

1346
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 8: They held the Fens to one of nine on third down,

1347
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 8: but still on that second to last drive to a

1348
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 8: tongue of Ailoa hooking up with Tyreek Hill, who wasn't

1349
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 8: on the field on the fourth down attempt in Green

1350
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 8: Bay on Thanksgiving, they go to Tyreek on fourth down,

1351
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 8: runs in then back out to it hits him, and

1352
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 8: then Jalen Waddell runs the exact same route on the

1353
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 8: two point conversion.

1354
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 7: They tie the ball game up.

1355
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 8: The Jets sprint down the field for a go ahead

1356
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 8: field goal, but then they don't cover the kickoff return.

1357
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 8: They get a forty eight yard return, leading to Jason

1358
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 8: Sanders sitting in the game to overtime and Aaron Rodgers

1359
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 8: and company never saw.

1360
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 7: The ball because of that John hus Smith takeover that

1361
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 7: we just heard.

1362
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were so many mistakes by the Jets at

1363
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: the end of this game. And I saw the Aaron

1364
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers quote where he said, there's blame to go around,

1365
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, we needed to score thirty in this game,

1366
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: which is his typically pass aggressive way of putting in

1367
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: a little bit on the defense. Aaron Rodgers in the

1368
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: offense lost this game despite it being one of their

1369
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: best games of the season, in part because of how

1370
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: they handled the situation at the end of the game.

1371
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: They had a first in goal, or rather a first

1372
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: in ten with one fourteen left at the twenty seven

1373
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: yard line in a tie game, and they wound up

1374
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: only burning another thirty seconds not even off the clock

1375
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: before they had to kick a field goal. They lose

1376
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: five yards on a run disaster time out by Miami.

1377
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers takes a sack disaster time out by Miami, but

1378
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: at that point, Miami only has one timeout left or

1379
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: no timeouts left. Rather, that was the last time out,

1380
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: and they throw an sideline route to Adams to set

1381
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: up a shorter field goal, but they stopped the clock

1382
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: right there with plenty of time for to go back

1383
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: down on the off the field, especially after that long

1384
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: kick return.

1385
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's been a story of the Jets season.

1386
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 3: If it's not one thing, it's the other.

1387
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: They actually got a good performance out of their offense

1388
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: for much of the day. But I thought on that,

1389
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of these plays Rogers missed open receivers.

1390
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: And I like it too, because, like I said, I

1391
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: want more teams that are alive. The Jets have been eliminated.

1392
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: They have not made the playoffs for fourteen straight years.

1393
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: They are one of six AFC teams to be eliminated.

1394
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: Only one NFC team has been eliminated, that's the Giants.

1395
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: Even the Panthers are technically alive because of the division,

1396
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: but the Dolphins are at least a little bit in

1397
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: the mix here at six and seven, there's a faint

1398
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: heartbeat even if I can't take them seriously because they

1399
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: have no running game in their defense really isn't that

1400
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: good either.

1401
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that like brief period a few weeks

1402
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: ago where we're like, oh, the defense is coming around.

1403
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: Maybe they can actually put it together. Look at them

1404
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: what they did to the Rams. Well, they've won four

1405
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: of the last five. Okay, so that's great, Like that's

1406
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: a start. Now you play Houston, San Francisco, Cleveland and

1407
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: the Jets again, and the Jets are gonna have absolutely

1408
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: nothing to play for in January. Grant, it's gonna be cold,

1409
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: and we know the Dolphins don't like the cold, so

1410
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: we'll see how that game pans out. But yeah, none

1411
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: of these games have really been convincing. All these wins.

1412
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 2: I mean the winner of the Patriots was I guess,

1413
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: but like, I haven't seen them necessarily show me what

1414
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: I needed to see. But they're still so much better

1415
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: than where they were without Tua that I'm gonna take

1416
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: them seriously for the rest of the run a because

1417
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: it's fun to watch me because it ends up with

1418
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: in thrilling finishes like the one on Sunday and see

1419
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: they can have a terrible game and still win and

1420
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: then send the interim coach on the other sideline into

1421
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 2: like just complete apoplectic mode. He just has no idea

1422
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: what to say.

1423
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 7: He's just wow.

1424
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: Our defense played well. They went one for nine on

1425
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: third down. We still lost in overtime. I have no answers.

1426
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: This is a dark season for the Jets, but I

1427
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: like the intrigue. I like the intrigue with the Dolphins

1428
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: because I think that they're a better team than their

1429
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: record suggests. They got some unfortunate injury locked their defense

1430
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: is not good enough, but they're still fun to watch.

1431
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be very intriguing to see what they do.

1432
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, a similiar type performance to in Pieces, without the

1433
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 8: catastrophic mistakes that they made in Green Bay. I think

1434
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 8: at the fourth down touchdown that that's a high leverage play.

1435
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 8: Of course, the entire situation, even getting the ball back,

1436
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 8: might not have happened. But Tula goes thirty three or

1437
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 8: forty seven, three thirty one. Tyreek gets fourteen targets. He

1438
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 8: catches ten of them. Wattle gets twelve, he catches nine

1439
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 8: of them. This is this is the team that we

1440
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 8: thought they could be except we thought they'd be able

1441
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 8: to run the ball. We haven't seen the Jets really

1442
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 8: stop anybody. Right, they won despite of that.

1443
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: Right, The Dolphins are the most consistent team that I've

1444
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: watched over the last seven weeks.

1445
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 3: They are the exact same team every week. They can't

1446
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 3: run the ball.

1447
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: Tua's incredibly efficient is playing at a really high level,

1448
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: and the defense is below average and gives up long

1449
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: drive after long drive no matter who the opponent is

1450
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: like it gets worse against it a really good team

1451
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: like Green Bay, but it's pretty bad each week. So

1452
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: as much as Tua's injury sunk this season, I don't

1453
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: know what the ceiling for this team was anyways, it

1454
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: was probably a six or a seven seed and not

1455
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: really being in the mix and the AFC. But at

1456
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: least they get to play wins, yeah, meaningful games for

1457
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: another couple of weeks. We cannot say the same about

1458
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: the teams in our next two games. Let's go to Tennessee.

1459
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: They running with Big b again to the left side.

1460
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: He gets loose paint into the en zone touchdown. Tank

1461
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: bigsby a score on an inside handoff and the Jaguars

1462
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 3: have taken the lead.

1463
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: With six to forty six to play in the ball game,

1464
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are off the mat.

1465
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 3: Mac Jones big time play Now, No, that was Tank

1466
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: pigs me.

1467
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: He goes eighteen for fifty five in a touchdown. The

1468
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: Jaguars gonna win in Tennessee ten to six over the Titans.

1469
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: Both these teams three and ten, which feels about right.

1470
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: I thought the defining play offensively of this game was

1471
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: me watching Mac Jones slide on a third and thirteen

1472
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: scramble about seven yards short of the first It's like,

1473
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: that's tightened Jaguars football.

1474
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 3: I thought it was maybe Will Levis.

1475
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: Getting absolutely destroyed on the last play of the first half.

1476
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: That felt unnecessary. Thankfully he was able to stay in

1477
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: the game. It looked like he might have been hurt

1478
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: there off a big hit from Josh Heinz Allen.

1479
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: Give me some positives for the Jacks here.

1480
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 8: Patrick, positives is Josh Allen has a chance to get

1481
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 8: three and a half sacks with the remainder of the

1482
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 8: season to tie his Jags single season record.

1483
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: Okay, round seventeen sacks for him? Really, Brian Thomas, I'll

1484
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: answered my own question. Got a ton of targets on

1485
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 1: the stretch.

1486
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 7: I needed help there.

1487
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just saying they like.

1488
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 3: Finally started feeding him the ball down the stretch of

1489
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: this game. He goes eight for eighty six.

1490
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: He is a real deal player, Like I might take

1491
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: him over Marvin Harrison Junior to go back to that

1492
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: right now. That's how good Mark Brian Thomas Junior has looked.

1493
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 8: The Jacks were able to keep Nick Westbrookakine out of

1494
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 8: the end zone on a key fourth down where maybe,

1495
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 8: you know, in hindsight, the Titans would have made a

1496
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 8: different decision about the play calling on that drive. But

1497
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 8: you know, the tank Bigsby called that. You guys heard,

1498
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 8: that was it. That was the touchdown. It went just

1499
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 8: a touchdown. That was the touchdown in this game where

1500
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 8: there wasn't a lot points to speak of, not a

1501
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 8: lot of plays and it's not you know, great defense

1502
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 8: from both teams, just a couple of offenses that were

1503
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 8: fairly inept and a couple of teams that are now

1504
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 8: three and ten.

1505
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was supposed to be an evaluation for Will

1506
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: Levis down the stretch here and.

1507
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: It's been better.

1508
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: But Brian Callahan was asked, you know after the game,

1509
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: after starting his press conference by saying of all the positives,

1510
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep it positive, talking about his

1511
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: defense and a few other things. And then the first

1512
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: question to him was, you just didn't score a touchdown

1513
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: against the last ranked defense in the NFL, and your

1514
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: first reaction is all the positives that were from this game,

1515
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: which is just a brutal spot. The Titans are sixth

1516
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: right now in Tankathon Jacksonville is fifth. Anything you want

1517
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,520
Speaker 1: to throw in here, Shook.

1518
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: We're on a thousand yard Tony Pollard.

1519
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 7: Watch.

1520
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay, he's closing in. He's inside one hundred. Greg, You've

1521
01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: talked about it many times, and I've enjoyed watching his well.

1522
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: I was playing like one of the best better running

1523
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 2: backs in the NFL just by being on this team.

1524
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: Oh and on the jackside, congrats on keeping Nick Westbrook

1525
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 2: Kokeine out of the end zone because he's actually been

1526
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: the guy making touchdown catches.

1527
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: Fil Okay, so there you go.

1528
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 2: This is this is the ANFC South Baby ten to

1529
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: sixer file right there.

1530
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: Man and Mac Jones.

1531
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's just so funny how bad his body

1532
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 1: languages when he's not happy about the play calls that

1533
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: are coming in and It's just like you got to

1534
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 1: get rid of that man, like he looked so annoyed

1535
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: at Doug Peterson.

1536
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: I could just imagine like the mutual.

1537
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: Annoyance sitting between those two men as they close out

1538
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: this season. But they get a win on a day

1539
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: in Duvall where the defense did show up. Let's go

1540
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: to MetLife Stadium where my friend Adam from the Saints

1541
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: Block Party podcast was in the crowd. Oh, what do

1542
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: you see a victory out of his Saints?

1543
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 8: Now, this is his first opportunity between thirty and thirty

1544
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 8: five to tie the game with eleven seconds of that's load.

1545
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 16: I don't think the Saints got it. I think the

1546
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 16: Saints got a piece of it. Missed it, Graham Gallo.

1547
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 16: It came out like a wounded duck. It looked like

1548
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 16: they rushed the mechanics of it. It looked like the

1549
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 16: Giants literally rushed the mechanics of it. And I don't

1550
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 16: know if it was a hot kick. The Saints did

1551
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 16: jump over the line to kind of rush.

1552
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 7: It, but he just missed it.

1553
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: That was duce McAllister, one of my all time favorite

1554
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: Saints along with Mike cos on ww L.

1555
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: Yes, Brian Brasid.

1556
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: What an athletic play from a man that's got to

1557
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: be pushing three bills, jumping over the snapper and blocking

1558
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: that field goal at the end. Now, I'm not saying

1559
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: that Giants are trying to lose, but if you were

1560
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: trying to lose, kind of messing up the final field

1561
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: goal operation at the end would be the way to

1562
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: do it.

1563
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 8: Michael Gobril is the special teams coordinator for the who

1564
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 8: brought this play into the NFL in that win against

1565
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 8: the Seattle Seahawks. It's Dexter Lawrence holding the guard down

1566
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 8: and Isaiah Simmons jumping over, and we saw Miles Garrett

1567
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 8: do it.

1568
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 7: We've seen teams try this.

1569
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 8: If anybody is aware that this is a possibility, it's

1570
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 8: the Giants and Brian Breesy. You know, God bless him

1571
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 8: his vertical again, twenty nine inches is a great vertical.

1572
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 8: It's not Isaiah Simmons or Miles Garrett. He's able to

1573
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 8: get over and through and just get enough of the kick.

1574
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 8: But I wasn't thinking about that until you said it.

1575
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 7: Greg. The Giants should have known that this is a possibility.

1576
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 7: Have your guard bow up a little bit.

1577
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: Great great call by you. I mean, that's the only

1578
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: kind of insight you can get on NFL daily. And yes,

1579
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: Percy is over three hundred and five pounds coming on

1580
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: strong lately. He's a guy that hunts big plays and

1581
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: so he gives up a lot of big plays, and

1582
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: I think he sometimes flashes more than he is a

1583
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: winning player. But over the last month he's been better.

1584
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: He had two quarterback hits in this game, two pass breakups.

1585
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: The Saints were crazy getting after Drew Lock in this game.

1586
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: They had thirteen quarterback hits and thirteen PBUs on Drew Lock.

1587
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: Drew Lock missed his first nine throws in this game.

1588
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: It was the first time since Drew lox old teammate

1589
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: Kendall Hinton, who's not a real NFL quarterback, started a

1590
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: game with nine straight incompletions. He was six for nineteen

1591
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: for fifty two yards at halftime. The Giants only had

1592
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: three points in their first ten drives. And yet, and yet,

1593
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: they were right there on the doorstep from winning this

1594
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: game with two touchdowns in the last five minutes, because

1595
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: the Saints offense was barely any better. Unfortunately, Derek Carr

1596
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: left the game with an injury very late, so that

1597
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: their offensive struggles were with him in the game. In fact,

1598
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: his replacement, Jay Kaner didn't even throw a pass. He

1599
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: just came in and handed it off twice and took

1600
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: a sack in his one series before the Giants got

1601
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: that last chance. So we'll see if Carr can return.

1602
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: They were checking him for a head injury, and then

1603
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: our guys at NFL Network, I believe reported a broken

1604
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: bone in his non throwing hand, so we don't.

1605
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 3: Know what his status will be.

1606
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: But the Saints are five and eight and the Giants disappointed,

1607
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure at the end, but they hold on to

1608
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: the number two pick. According to Tankthon, the Raiders shook

1609
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 1: our right now in the one spot. The Raiders have

1610
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: lost nine straight. The Giants have lost eight straight.

1611
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: That's that's tough.

1612
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: The Bears have lost seven straight. By the way, they

1613
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: were four to two at one point. That's crazy.

1614
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: I mean, anytime you go into a game with Drew

1615
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: Lock as your leading rusher, it's not gonna be good

1616
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: for the Giants. We know who they are right now,

1617
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: and there's not much good to say about the Saints

1618
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: and Derek Carr. I'm like playbo on, I need to

1619
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 2: help here. I don't have anything here.

1620
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 3: I watched this game quite closely. I never will again.

1621
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: Chase Young had about a million quarterback pressures in this

1622
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: game was all over Lock. The way I would describe

1623
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: Drew Lock's first three quarters of this game was every

1624
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: decision he made was bad because he was the wrong one.

1625
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: Like there was one play where he's scrambling and he

1626
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: is fast. It's kind of like an internet joke going

1627
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: out there that they show the white looking Mike Vick

1628
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: on Madden meme every time Drew Locke is running and

1629
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: he ends up with fifty nine yards and he's faster

1630
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: than I remember, but he's fast as hell. But he

1631
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: had a first down just stitting right in front of

1632
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: him on a third in like seven. And then for

1633
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: some reason he tries to beat two guys around the

1634
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: edge that he has no chance to do and ends

1635
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: up like just getting one yard in the play when

1636
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: it was there.

1637
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: So it's just like every decision was bad.

1638
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,839
Speaker 1: And then he almost led them to to a comeback

1639
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: at the end because the Saints they just, I don't know,

1640
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: they look for ways to win games. The most memorable

1641
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: part of this game was Darren Rizzy absolutely upbraiding his

1642
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 1: punter after what was a punt return touchdown called back

1643
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: by penalty that the Giants. But he was just screaming

1644
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: at his punter for so long that Alvin Kamara had

1645
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: to come in and kind of separate it and stop it,

1646
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: like because I was about to call hr like it

1647
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: wasn't right. What was going on between Rizzy and this

1648
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: young punter.

1649
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 7: It was too much.

1650
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 8: It's almost and this is a rookie and I don't

1651
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 8: think Darren Rizzy is spending that much time in any

1652
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 8: other place.

1653
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: Well, he's a special teams guy. Yeah, I mean shy, but.

1654
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 7: It's it's like, at what point are we are working?

1655
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 7: Are we hustling backwards? Yeah?

1656
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: You have a special teams coordinators like that. They're known

1657
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 2: for that. They always the craziest.

1658
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: This was. This was next level by Rizzy and I

1659
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: I have a feeling he will be, you know, saying

1660
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: maybe he needs to come.

1661
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 8: He did any credit at Alvin in the post, Yeah

1662
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 8: for coming up and settling him down.

1663
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 7: He he, you know, he he.

1664
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: It felt like he was taking out other frustrations maybe

1665
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: that were going on in this game, like watching this

1666
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: offense in the running game. It was it was tough,

1667
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 1: but yes, the Saints get the victory. Let's go to

1668
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: a it's more important game. On Sunday night in Arrowhead,

1669
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: we say goodbye to Patrick Claybonn and yes we will

1670
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,839
Speaker 1: remember this Sunday for so many things, but more than anything, Patrick,

1671
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: for your genius rams pick.

1672
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 7: Hey, I did something right, all right.

1673
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: Let it be known to Sunday night.

1674
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 4: A thirty one yard attempt by Matthew Wright to try

1675
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 4: to win the game.

1676
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 3: Ariza will hold, Winchester will snap.

1677
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 7: Cargers are out of timeouts, Winchester snaps it. Placement is

1678
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 7: down rights.

1679
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 11: Kickers out, and the kickers, God, God, God, can the.

1680
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs do it again?

1681
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 11: The third kicker this season to have a walk off

1682
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 11: field goal, and this one wins the game nineteen to

1683
01:17:51,400 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 11: seventeen and gets the Chiefs nine consecutive AFC West championships.

1684
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: Nine straight division titles for the Kansas City Chiefs. That is,

1685
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: Mitch Holtis WDAF For a minute, not even a minute,

1686
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: a fraction of a second, he thought, oh that the

1687
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs actually got unlucky. For once that thing hit the crossbar,

1688
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose at the last second on a crazy

1689
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: fluky special teams play, but no, matthew Wright's kick hits

1690
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: hard off that upright, It bounces all the way.

1691
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 3: To the other side. It goes through nineteen to seventeen.

1692
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: Shookie, It turns out the Chiefs can keep getting away

1693
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: with this, actually, and they will and they will continue.

1694
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: To Yeah, and everybody else is just gonna have to

1695
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: accept it that if Patrick Mahomes has the ball with

1696
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: four minutes left and he's down by a point, he's

1697
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: gonna find a way to convert every third down that

1698
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: you think is impossible. The pass rush is collapsing around him,

1699
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: He's gonna find somebody open. He's going to make a

1700
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: jump pass. He's gonna lea lure four defenders in his

1701
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: face and find Travis Kelsey for a first down. Y'all

1702
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 2: just have to accept it. I'm tired of hearing you

1703
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 2: complain about it. The refs had nothing to do with it.

1704
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 2: This is just Chiefs magic.

1705
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 3: Okay.

1706
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: This one felt a little different to me. Absolutely heartbreaking

1707
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: if you root for the Chargers. But a game I

1708
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: thought was pretty evenly played between the two teams. Obviously,

1709
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense dominating the first half and the Chargers

1710
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 1: quickly responding in a back and forth game, but the

1711
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs get the ball, as you mentioned, with under five

1712
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: minutes to go, and Mahomes earned every bit of that

1713
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: last drive the third and ten where he's scrambling around

1714
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: and making it happen before getting worthy to start the drive.

1715
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: The scramble and then the decision coming out of the

1716
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: two minute warning. The Chiefs have the ball with a

1717
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: third and seven. They could run the ball there and

1718
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: kick the go ahead field goal, but that clock will

1719
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: leave about one twenty for Justin Herbert to go possibly respond.

1720
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: But instead, Andy Reid does give Patrick Mahomes, his guy,

1721
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: the option to throw, and he made it count.

1722
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 4: Mahomes under center, takes the snap. He's back, he's rolling

1723
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 4: to his right, he's looking. He pumps, he's gonna pull

1724
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 4: the football down. Now throws and it's put by Kelsey

1725
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 4: on and me with the first down at the eleven,

1726
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 4: a nine yard game and a first down for the Chiefs.

1727
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: Just what I thought.

1728
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 4: Mahomes was gonna run. He saw Kelsey and dumps it

1729
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 4: off to him for a first down.

1730
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: That play looked like it was done, and as we've

1731
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: seen it so many times before, Mahomes draws up the

1732
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: extra defender by looking like he's gonna run, manages to

1733
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: throw across his body. That was Westwood one, Ryan Radkey,

1734
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: And that's why this one, to me felt like a

1735
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: lot of Chargers Chiefs game. But it wasn't the Chargers

1736
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 1: making some huge bone headed error at the end. It

1737
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: wasn't the Chiefs getting lucky on that drive. It was

1738
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: just the Chiefs offense having a good drive when they

1739
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: absolutely needed it. They barely had the ball in the

1740
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: second half, but they needed to get points on that drive.

1741
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: They got it.

1742
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: And they're the best at that end of game situation.

1743
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: Their EPA per play shook on those third and fourth

1744
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: downs and lat and close situations as the highest in

1745
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: the league. Like they're proving they can do it week

1746
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: after week, and they did it again.

1747
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it starts at the quarterback. I mean, this

1748
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 2: is I've recently had a harder time keeping him up there,

1749
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 2: but this is why QB Index Patrick Mahomes has been

1750
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: in the top five all year. It's not pretty. The

1751
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: statistics don't tell you that he's thrown for four hundred

1752
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 2: yards a game or whatever, but he does stuff like

1753
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: that and that's a rare ability there are a lot

1754
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: of guys that cannot make that happen. But because he

1755
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 2: is playing quarterback for the Chiefs, and it might sound

1756
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: like a broken record, totally fine. He is one of

1757
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: the very few who can get that job done consistently

1758
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 2: under pressure. And even he knows it. He completes that

1759
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 2: pass to Kelsey we just saw on that clip there

1760
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 2: and he's bobbing his head, nod his head. Yeah, I'm

1761
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: still the man. I still did this, and that's why

1762
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 2: they're so difficult to beat. But you're right, it did

1763
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 2: feel the Chargers earned their place in this game. Like

1764
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 2: when they went into the second half. You're listening to

1765
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: collins Worth the first couple of minutes of the third

1766
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: quarter talking about how what are your options available? They've

1767
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: gotten like no first downs in the whole first half,

1768
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 2: you have no running game to speak of, so play

1769
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 2: action's gone. And then they're just like, screw it, We're

1770
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 2: gonna commit to the run and they're just gonna keep

1771
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: pounding the run and pounding the run stubbornly. So and

1772
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 2: it opened up the offense and Justin Herbert was able

1773
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: to work and we got a hell of a game

1774
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: as a result.

1775
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 1: It was a really great game because of the contrast

1776
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 1: between the two halves. The Chargers get six drives, which

1777
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,799
Speaker 1: is a ton. In the first half, they don't score

1778
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: a single point five straight punts, and then they can't capitalize.

1779
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: At the end of the half, they don't Only two

1780
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: of those drives go over thirty yards, you know, one

1781
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: goes for fifty, So they didn't do anything. And then

1782
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: this second half, yes, they set it up by putting

1783
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: those extra blockers in and getting some outside runs going,

1784
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: but they also hit some third and longs. They hit

1785
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: a fourth down to Palmer. I believe it was where

1786
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: it was a pass call. It was a gutsy call

1787
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: a third and long. Stone Smart gets very active. I

1788
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: was listening to Daniel Jeremiah and Matt mney Smith on

1789
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 1: the radio and coming out of halftime, they're like, we

1790
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: need to get Stone Smart more into the game because

1791
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: he's the most athletic pass catcher they have and they

1792
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: just need some juice.

1793
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 3: This Charger's offense, it just lacks juice.

1794
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: And without Lad mcconkee on the field, Stone Smart gets

1795
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: put in there because Will Disley gets hurt. He has

1796
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: a shoulder injury and he never came back and Smart

1797
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: has three big catches for fifty four yards, so they

1798
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: were problem solving. And yeah, they get two straight touchdowns

1799
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: in such quick order and then get a three and

1800
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: out from the chief Sandwich between that and the third

1801
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: quarter and suddenly it's on. And after that it was

1802
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: just three long field goal drives. So I think the

1803
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: Chargers are so it really is a good defense. Cam

1804
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: Hart made that play where he hit DeAndre Hopkins right

1805
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: near the goal line and made them kick a field

1806
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: goal there. They got thirteen quarterback hits against Patrick Mahomes

1807
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs gave up I think twelve or thirteen

1808
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: last week too, so he's getting hit way too inch.

1809
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: They were getting pressure on him. They just couldn't quite

1810
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 1: finish plays enough. But I actually think, man, you shouldn't

1811
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: be taking any moral victories. I'm now talking to myself.

1812
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 3: Out of it. It's ridiculous.

1813
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: What are we talking about moral victories against the Chiefs

1814
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: when you can never win a game in this matchup.

1815
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: I thought they had a chance to cosmically turn it

1816
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: around shook and they didn't.

1817
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 2: Well, they almost did. And they have to feel like

1818
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: a little brother because of the position they've been in

1819
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: for the last better part of the last decade, especially

1820
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: since Patrick Mahomes has been here. And I understand that

1821
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: that's frustrating, as can all you know it could be.

1822
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you are eight and five

1823
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: and you're still in a very good spot right now.

1824
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: You are a much better football team. You're a tougher

1825
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 2: football team. You tried to win the toughness battle and

1826
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: you almost did. If anything, I think it was a

1827
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: stalemate in that department and you just happened to not

1828
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: have the ball last because you couldn't get off the field.

1829
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: And I think that's all positive developments that you can

1830
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: take in those last months where you got to play Tampa,

1831
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 2: you gotta play Denver, and then you play New England

1832
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: and the Raiders. So last two games, I'm counting those

1833
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 2: as wins. You're looking at ten wins. I didn't have

1834
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: the discharged team as a ten win team. That's pretty good.

1835
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 2: Not a moral victory, because that's gonna put you in

1836
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 2: a playoff role or like a spot maybe in contention.

1837
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 2: We'll see how it all shakes out. You're gonna be

1838
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 2: in the mix. And that's way more than I think

1839
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: any of us expected, which is good.

1840
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should make the playoffs.

1841
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: According to the next Gen Stats, they have an eighty

1842
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: nine percent chance of making it. And what that assumes is,

1843
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: look there their favorites against the Bucks. Not an easy game,

1844
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: but their favorites, and they beat the Broncos already, so

1845
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: they have a tiebreaker over them and they'll have a chance.

1846
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 3: They're right in it.

1847
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: But this this would have just been I think because

1848
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: it's the Harbough era, it's new, and it would.

1849
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 3: Have maybe just.

1850
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: There were more on equal footing and even though they

1851
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: weren't catching up. So tough day for Eric Roberts and

1852
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: the bill fans out there who were hoping that they

1853
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: could get a little bit of help. Now that the

1854
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs have a two game lead as the one seed,

1855
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: they're up to eighty one percent chance feels I could

1856
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: be even higher for that to me, to get that

1857
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: one seed and the Chiefs make it happen. And even

1858
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: though there are some things to be concerned about for

1859
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in this game, I mentioned the offensive line

1860
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: giving up all those hits, I do think they're a

1861
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: better offense with the checko. They had a lot of

1862
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: long drives in this game. That's what they do better.

1863
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: Than any team in the NFL.

1864
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 7: Shook.

1865
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: They actually have more plays per drive than any team

1866
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: since the twenty one Chiefs in the NFL, so they

1867
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,480
Speaker 1: know how to maintain the ball. They are a significantly

1868
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: better offense this year, no matter how you slice it,

1869
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: than last year. And they won the Super Bowl last year,

1870
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: so like they were a bad offense last year. You're

1871
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: giving me a funny look, But.

1872
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: No, I'm just surprised that by some of these the

1873
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: revelations within this.

1874
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gree I.

1875
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 3: Mean, they're not perfect, but they're a good team and.

1876
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: They're just methodical and sometimes that doesn't impress people, and

1877
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: that's fine.

1878
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 1: And they're getting it done, and they're they're getting players

1879
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: back healthy. Marquise Hollywood Brown is going to be back

1880
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: at some point. It sounds like in the regular season,

1881
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: this was a fun recap, so shooky, it's so fun.

1882
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 3: We should do it again tomorrow night. Oh you know what,

1883
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 3: I think we will.

1884
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: How about it make it a day.

1885
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: Right, that's it, play the music, Eric Monday night, Bengals

1886
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: still alive for the playoffs and the Cowboys.

1887
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 3: We'll have some fun.

1888
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: We're going to rank some Rookie of the Year candidates

1889
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: then and yeah, when the when the Chiefs are on

1890
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: their third kicker in a month and they're just making

1891
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: the rest of the country go freaking crazy, you know

1892
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: football is back.