1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: about this week's subject of the Disgraceland full episode, River Phoenix, 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: great actors from the nineteen nineties. We've also got a 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: special Disgraceland announcement, and of course we are diving into 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: your voicemails, texts and more and as always, a whole 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: lot of Rosie. All right, disc goes, let's get into it. 15 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: On October thirty first, nineteen ninety three, Tupac Secure was 16 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: charged with two counts of aggravated assault for shooting his 17 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: gune at two off duty police officers the day before. 18 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: Also on October thirty first, nineteen ninety three, English actress 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: Letitia Wright was born. Letitia would go on to act 20 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: in the film Black Panther, a big budget, mainstream superhero 21 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: flick that loosely played homage to the radical Black Panther 22 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: political party from the sixties and the seventies, an organization 23 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: that Tupac Shakura was raised in. Basically, Tupac's mother and 24 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: stepfather were both members of the Marxist Leninist Black Panther 25 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: political group. Federico Fellini, the famous and influential filmmaker, had 26 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: no politics. His films, at least were a political in nature. 27 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: He died on October thirty first, nineteen ninety three. Fellini 28 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: was a major influence on director Tim Burton, and tim 29 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Burton's filmmaking, with its distinctive style, is described as burton 30 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: Esque in the same way that Fellini's filmmaking is described 31 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: as felliniesque. On the day that Federico Fellini died on 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: October thirty first, nineteen ninety three, Tim Burton had the 33 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: number one movie at the box office, A Nightmare Before Christmas. Currently, 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, thirty one years later, the Internet 35 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: is a light with rumors that a live action version 36 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: of Tim Burton's A Nightmare before Christmas is in the works, 37 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: potentially starring Tim Burton's friend in frequent collaborator, Johnny Depp. 38 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Now on October thirty first, nineteen ninety three, Johnny Depp 39 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: was in production with Tim Burton on the biopic ed Wood, 40 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: about the idiosyncratic cult director Who's incredibly Campion and sexploitative 41 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: films Plan nine from Outer Space, Bride of the Monster, 42 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Orgy of the Dead, among others, were most certainly being 43 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: shown on that Halloween weekend back in nineteen ninety three, 44 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: But Johnny Depp was not watching movies. On October thirty first, 45 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, he was on stage playing guitar with 46 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: his band p at his nightclub, the Viper Room on 47 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: the Sunset Strip in Los Angeles. On stage with Johnny 48 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: that night were musicians Al Jorginson from Ministry, Benmontesge from 49 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: Tom Petty's Heartbreakers, Gibe Haynes from The Butthole Surfers, and 50 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: Flee from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. John Fruchiante from 51 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: the Red Hot Chili Peppers got up to play that night, 52 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: but he was so fucked up on drugs that he 53 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: vomited on stage before stumbling off without playing much of 54 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: anything at all. We've detailed all of this to you, 55 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: the parts about the Viper Room in this week's full 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: episode on River Phoenix, who was at that moment in 57 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: the crowd there with John Fruciante, his good friend, on 58 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: October thirty first, nineteen ninety three, and Rivers there in 59 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the audience hoping to get up on stage with his 60 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: guitar to jam with this incredible group of musicians. Now, 61 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: prior to arriving at the Viper Room, River Phoenix and 62 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: John Fruschie, we're on a day's long massive drug binge 63 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: that involved a routine of smoking crack or shooting mainlining 64 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: cocaine and then immediately shooting heroin afterward to level off 65 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: that crack cocaine high. So by the time both met 66 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: arride at the Viper Room on October thirty first, nineteen 67 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: ninety three, they were blitzed, and upon arrival immediately more 68 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: cocaine was provided to them. Now they're high, they're there, 69 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: they're in the audience, p is performing on stage. Okay again, 70 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: that's the butthole surfers guy Gibbie Haynes, says Johnny Depp. 71 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: That's who else? Did I say? Flee al from ministry 72 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who was playing drums, but anyways, p 73 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: is on stage and they're playing a song of the 74 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: song of theirs entitled Michael Stipe. Okay, Michael Stipe from 75 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: ram Now. This is a song that details I've never 76 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: heard it, but I was reading about it this morning. 77 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: It details the absurdity of Hollywood fame, and the song 78 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: name checks, among others, not only Michael Stipe, of course, 79 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: but director Sophia Coppola, but also River Phoenix, who, like 80 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: I said, was in the audience at that moment. He's 81 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: name checked in that song as well. And while he's 82 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: being name checked in that song that's being performed live 83 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: on that stage at that moment, River Phoenix is in 84 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: the audience, overducing now again. As detailed in this week's 85 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: full episode on River Phoenix, River was ushered out onto 86 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: the sidewalk, where he passed out and died. Flee accompanied 87 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: his dead friend to the hospital in the back of 88 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the ambulance the next day. Johnny Depp and everyone else 89 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: with a bold faced name who was at the Viper 90 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Room on October thirty first, nineteen ninety three, left town. 91 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: The next film, The River Phoenix, was to star him 92 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: was Interviewed with a Vampire, but of course River Phoenix 93 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: did not start in that role. Christian Slater did. It's 94 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: hard to argue that the movie wouldn't have been better 95 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: with River Phoenix playing the part of Daniel Malloy. Christian 96 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: Slater made some pretty forgettable films after Interview with a 97 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Van Empire Murder in the First Bed of Roses Julian 98 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: Poe among them. I don't think I've seen any of 99 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: those movies, so I can't really speak to them. But 100 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: the fact that I haven't seen them or been compelled 101 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: to see them, it says something. Now, had River Phoenix 102 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: made Interview with the Vampire, what films would he have 103 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: started afterward? This is very tough to answer, but Interview 104 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: with the Vampire was released in nineteen ninety four, so 105 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: we get some idea of what films were in production 106 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: around in and around that time when River died, when 107 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: Interview with the Vampire was made, when he would have 108 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: been made making it, and then what films were in 109 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: production afterward that we can sort of tell by who's 110 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: starred in them, which roles might have been offered to 111 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: River Phoenix or it might have been available to him. 112 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: I should say okay again. An interview with the Vampire 113 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: was released in nineteen ninety four. After that, Leonardo DiCaprio 114 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: started in nineteen ninety five Basketball Diaries, a role that 115 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: one of you guys I can't remember who, but I apologize, 116 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: just thank you for DM. I mean, one of you 117 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: guys suggested that River would have and perfect in Basketball Diaries, 118 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: and I agree. Also in nineteen ninety five, Brad Pitt 119 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: starred in Seven. Now that's another role that I could 120 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: see River Phoenix in. After that, it starts to get 121 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: real interesting when you imagine River Phoenix maturing into manhood 122 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: and considering what films he would have taken on, what 123 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: films that went to other people? Okay, how about Leonardo 124 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: DiCaprio's role in The Departed from two thousand and six, 125 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: or how about River as part of George Clooney's two 126 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: thousand and one ensemble for Ocean's Eleven. I can see 127 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: him in both these roles, and he would have killed it. 128 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: He was an incredible actor. He was, quite literally, I believe, 129 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: the best of his generation. How these films would have 130 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: turned out with him in them, we'll never know. Of course, 131 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: we won okay, it's you know, we're also not going 132 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: to know who gave River Phoenix that drink on October 133 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: thirty first, that was spiked with heroin and cocaine that 134 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: killed him. This is a subject that we touch upon, 135 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: of course, in the episode. I'm tempted to ask you, guys, 136 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: who you think gave that lethal drink to River Phoenix, 137 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: But I don't want our discourse here to evolve into conjecture. 138 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: The rumors, however, are very compelling, and they're worth looking 139 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: into in your free time. If, of course, I thought 140 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: there was real, corroborating evidence that linked any of the 141 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: Viper Room attendees that night to River Phoenix's death, I 142 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: would say so. But the real proof, the hard proof, 143 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: it just isn't there yet. So all of this is 144 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: relative to that night, October thirty first, nineteen ninety three, 145 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: which is a big part detailed in this week's full 146 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: episode of the Disgraceline podcast on River Phoenix. The River 147 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: Phoenix loss was a hard one for a lot of you. 148 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: I know this because I've heard from you. I've heard 149 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: from you in the DMS, I've heard from you on voicemail, 150 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: I've heard from you via text, next week, I didn't 151 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: plan this. I mean I planned it, but I didn't 152 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: tend for this to be the result. Next week, we've 153 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: got another story about another actor, and it's a tough loss. 154 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: It's coming your way on Tuesday. It's on Matthew Perry, 155 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: whose death is still very much part of the headlines. 156 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: But rather than continue to delve into the sadness connected 157 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: to the loss of a beloved actor, or to delve 158 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: into who or who may not have been culpable in 159 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: the actor's death, because that's still very much a question 160 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: that's out there, I'd like to keep this week's Question 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: of the Week a bit lighter, just because, okay, we 162 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: could do with some lightness after the heaviness of these episodes. 163 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: So when you're listening to the Matthew Perry episode, whether 164 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: or not you're a friend's guy or girl or whatever, 165 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: or whether or not you're you like Seinfeld, Moore or whatever, 166 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: whatever your taste, when you're listening to the Matthew Perry episode, 167 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: obviously we're talking about television. So I want you guys 168 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: to be thinking about what is the greatest television show 169 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: of all time? All Right, that's what I want to 170 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: talk about. In the after party with you guys next week. 171 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: That's what I want to be talking with you guys 172 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: on text about, on voicemail in the DM. In a 173 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: lot of ways, it's a super basic question, of course, 174 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: but in a lot of ways it's an impossible question 175 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: to answer. Also, Friends Seinfeld, their sitcoms, they happen right 176 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: there at the edge of pre peak television. They're kind 177 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: of part of that last generation of I don't want 178 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: to say bad television because obviously Friends in Seinfeld are 179 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: not bad television, and there was some great television being 180 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: made in the nineties. NYPD Blue stands out. There's more. 181 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: If I thought about it for a minute, I could 182 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: come up with some other examples. But what happens after 183 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Friends goes off the air is we get this explosion 184 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: of incredible television where the medium really starts to change. Sopranos, 185 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: The Wire, mad Men, Breaking Bad. All those shows are 186 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: truly great. There's probably five or ten more examples that 187 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: I could listen are also truly great, not good great. 188 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, what are you 189 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: returning to you at night? What are you chilling out with? 190 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: What are you unwhining with at night? Before you crash. 191 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: Is it Breaking Bad or is it Seinfeld? Is it 192 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: the Wire or is it Friends? What is the number 193 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: one greatest television show of all time? It is a 194 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: tough question to answer, but I want you, guys to try. 195 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: I want you to hit me up six one seven 196 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight, leave me a voicemail, 197 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: send me a text. DM me at Disgrace Slam Pod 198 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: on Instagram x Facebook to let me know. I'm gonna 199 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: take a break. I'll be back in a flash with 200 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: your answers from last week's question of the Week. All right, guys, 201 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: before we get into your voicemails and text messages, I 202 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: gotta let you know about something cool we have coming 203 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: up on October ninth. I'm doing a live stream version 204 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: of the Disgrace Slam Podcast. You guys can join me, 205 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: of course, and make this more interactive and fun. I'm 206 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: doing this for you guys. This episode that we're doing, 207 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: it's part of the live stream. It's gonna be on 208 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: Blink one eighty two's Tom DeLong and his obsession with 209 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: aliens and the UFO phenomenon and very non conspiratorial, very 210 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: real impact that Tom DeLong has actually made The contribution 211 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: to Tom DeLong, the guitar player for Blink one eighty two, 212 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: has made to society is pretty fucking mind blowing. And 213 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: this is a very creepy story. It involves shadowy government figures, 214 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: life from other realms, and of course it's Blink one 215 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: eighty two, so it also involves dick jokes, fart jokes, 216 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: all that good stuff. There's even an arrest for the 217 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: true crime heads sort of. Anyhow, the show is October ninth, 218 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. It's less than a month away. You 219 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: guys can get tickets at moment dot co slash Disgraceland. 220 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: It's just fifteen bucks to get in. That's like three 221 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: Fugazi shows from back in nineteen ninety six. But I 222 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: don't think that's helping my argument anyways. This show, okay, 223 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a live stream version of the Disgracelam podcast. 224 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a live stream version of the podcast 225 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: that we usually bring you guys in audio. We're gonna 226 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: be bringing it to you on the screen, and I'm 227 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: not stopping there. I'm gonna be doing a special live 228 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: stream after party. Okay, that's gonna be offered after the 229 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: live stream podcast. That's five bucks to get into, but 230 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: Patreon members get in for free. 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I agree, 250 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: River Phoenix. Some filks might say Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, 251 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: I'm Joe, and Robert de Niro in which you know, 252 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: like who's the great baseball team ever? The New York Yankees. 253 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Well it's kind of like you no shit, But de 254 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: Niro was in Casino, he did a bunk Tale, he 255 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: would did Good Fellows, motherfucking Heat, Jackie Brown fucking Copland, 256 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: which has got to be one of the most underrated 257 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: and underappreciated movies from the nineties if you just look 258 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: at the cast. Amazing films. So not only was he 259 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: the volume of his films, but the quality. You know, 260 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: he was just in a shitload Casina. I think Casino 261 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: just a shitload of great movies. So it might not 262 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: be the most popular pick, but he killed in the nineties. 263 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: You want to say Tom Hanks to Academy Awards, Philadelphia, 264 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: Forrest Gump, a variety of roles, just completely different characters. 265 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, for me, I gotta say just because of 266 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: the you know, that's the quality of all the films 267 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: that he was. He was in in the nineties, So 268 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,479 Speaker 2: that's that man. Appreciate it. 269 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: Nine oh four. Your Yankees comment, it's uh, it's it's 270 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: stinging this Red Sox fan. I cannot argue with you. 271 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't argue with you about your de 272 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Niro pick either. He's not somebody that I would have 273 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: thought of, but when you lay it all out there, 274 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: he truly did kill it in the nineties and Copland 275 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: underrated film. You're absolutely right, incredible film and de Niro's 276 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: role roll in it especially, you blew it just so 277 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: fucking good. Okay, thank you, Barry. Appreciate it real quick, Barry. 278 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: That reminds me. I saw Copland in the theaters when 279 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: it came out. I was on tour with my band 280 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: cast Iron Hike, and we were right around New Jersey, 281 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: New York, and I remember we were all blown away 282 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: by the movie. We were blown away by by Michael 283 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: Rappaport's character Superboy. And we were in New York City. 284 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: We were down We're like little Italy, like Mott Street, 285 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: Prince Street, something like that. We were in our van 286 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: and we had the windows open and we had just 287 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: seen Copland. It was like the night before or that 288 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: day or something. It was really fresh, is the point, 289 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: and we all heard that we heard this voice outside 290 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: the van. We're stopped in traffic, you know, on one 291 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: of these tiny New York City streets, and we hear 292 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: this voice coming through the window, and we all just 293 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: had this look of recognition, like, what the hell's happening 294 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: when we look and it's Michael Rapperport right outside the 295 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: van talking to somebody, and we could hear his voice. 296 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: It was fresh in our mind from of course seeing 297 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: him very recently in Copland. That blew my mind. Anyhow, 298 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: there's a little Copland story for you. Okay, let's let's 299 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: get back into some voicemails here. Last week, of course, 300 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: we released an episode on the NFL and Carol Rosenbloom 301 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: was part of that episode. Carol Rosenbloom was the owner 302 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: of the Baltimore Colts in the Los Angeles Rams. We 303 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: actually got this voicemail from Carol Rosenbloom's nephew. 304 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: Hey, what up? My name is Asher and scrolling through 305 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: my Spotify feet today your podcast came up NOTT NFL 306 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: and the origins of it I knew right away Oom 307 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: was about because my great great uncle is Carol rosen Bloom, 308 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: and I grew up with these stories of him doing 309 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: these crazy things. My grandmother remembers being in the locker 310 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: room meeting all the players. So our uncle was Carol, 311 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: her dad's brother, and we grew up in the family 312 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: with this notion that Carol is a bad, bad guy. 313 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: I'm twenty five years old now, and Carol was not 314 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: liking in the family. 315 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: He was always considered a bad dude. 316 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: We got me going to any more questions. Well, thank 317 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: you very much for the episode. 318 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. Asher. Incredible to hear from you, man. 319 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate you calling in. I'm sure the stories 320 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: that you've heard about your uncle go way beyond the 321 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: ones that we told in the last NFL episode that 322 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: we did in those episodes are pretty fucking nuts. I 323 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: appreciate you calling it and thank you Asher. All right, 324 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: let's do some text guys. Six one seven nine six 325 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: six six three eight you want to leave me a voice? Mialli, 326 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: you want to send me a text? Let's do this 327 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: text from the eight one eight Hey Jake Mickey here, 328 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: long text warning. We have a two party here. Part 329 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: one is in response to your question of who was 330 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: the best actor of the nineteen nineties. I have one 331 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: that I think is just tough to argue against. We've 332 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: got Denzel Washington, Mobetta, Blues, Ricochet, Malcolm X, the Pelican Bris, Philadelphia, 333 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: Crimson Tide, Devil in a Blue Dress, coverage under fire Fall, 334 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: and he got gamed, the Siege, the Bone Collector of 335 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: the Hurricane. And that's only a few. Number two Daniel 336 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: Dave lewis a close second. But my opinion on the 337 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: subject of River Phoenix, I think River is probably the 338 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: James Dean of our generation. Some might say Heath Ledger, 339 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: which is a tough one to disagree with. I don't 340 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: think DiCaprio, Gossling Pit, Matt Damon, Wahlberg, even Joaquen would 341 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: have had as many parts if River were still in 342 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: the mix. That being said, it also would have been 343 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: great to see River join forces with his contemporaries. And 344 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm out as always. Keep doing what you do, Mickey, 345 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: Thanks awesome text. Yeah, you're absolutely right when you rattle 346 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: off those names, When you rattle off DiCaprio, Gossling Pit, 347 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: Matt Damon, Wahlberg, even Joaquim, it's tough. It's tough. It's tough, 348 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: you know. I love all those guys and I love 349 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: what they do what they've done, I should say, throughout 350 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: their career, and it's it's tough to think about what 351 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: would have not been available to them had River Phoenix 352 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: remained alive and working. Great text, Mickey, appreciate you the 353 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: seven three to two text in Hey, good morning from 354 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: the seven three too. Just listen to the after party. 355 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for the Keith Jarrett recommendation. Great stuff. We'll 356 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: explore more, Mark Mark, thanks for the text. I was 357 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: actually listening to Keith Jarrett right before I got on 358 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: the mic, and but I wasn't listening to the song 359 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: or the album that I recommended to you, guys. The 360 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: song was The Rich and the Poor. What I've been 361 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: listening to lately is the Cold Concert. Am I pronouncing 362 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: that the correct way? I don't think I am. It's 363 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: cold as in con Germany Koln. That's from January twenty fourth, 364 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five. The track is actually entitled January twenty four, 365 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, Part two C. Okay, check that out. 366 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Con Concert Keith Jarrett January twenty four, nineteen seventy five, 367 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: Part two C. Guys, this is reminding me of old 368 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: school after party here with the recommendations. I miss the recommendations. 369 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: I kind of want to bring the recommendations back in 370 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: some form. I don't know what. I don't feel like 371 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: the after party is a medium for it, though, because 372 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: this thing is packed. It's jam packed, and I'm always 373 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: making these things too damn long, and Matt's always complaining 374 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: to me they're too long. Man, I got to edit 375 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: this shit. What are you doing? Going on and on 376 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: and on? But hey, you guys, you know we've got 377 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: to talk. But maybe there's another spot for the recommendations 378 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: where I don't know, let's keep talking about that. Six 379 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: point seven nine oh six six six three eight. Send 380 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: me a text, guys, semi a voicemail, send me your records. 381 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: What are you listening to? I want to know? And 382 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: you can also hit me up at disgracelam Pod on X, 383 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: on Instagram, on Facebook, just like G. Todd Monday on 384 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: X who writes, Hey, anyone that's a fan of Al 385 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Davis Casino and the Old Mob needs to check out 386 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: the at disgracelam Pod. The NFL, a dead owner, a 387 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: dead gangster, a league founded on gambling. It's awesome. H G. 388 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: Todd Monday appreciate you man. Thanks, thanks for shouting us 389 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: out on the old Twitter machine. Excuse me the X 390 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: machine at disgracelamd pod on X at disgracelam pod on Instagram, 391 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: at disgracelamp pod on Facebook on Instagram. Johnny Vinyl rights 392 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: regards to the River Phoenix episode, I miss them even 393 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: after all these years. That's how you know. A complete 394 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: stranger who provided some form of art that you connected 395 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: with was that special. When this stranger leaves a void, 396 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: the memory becomes like a railroad that has no passing 397 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: trains anymore. Phoenix was the guy, well said Johnny. See, 398 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: I told you. I told you, guys, I heard from 399 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: you on the River thing. I knew, I know, I 400 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: know it hurts, I know it. I hear you. Six 401 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight. Guys, 402 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: hit me up with your answers to next week's question 403 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: of the Week, which is going to be on what 404 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: is the Greatest Television ever? Okay, I want to know 405 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: at Disgrace lampod on the Socials. I'm going to take 406 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: a quick break, see Matt, I'm getting this wrapped up quickly. 407 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be back in 408 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: the flash with some of your emails and some of 409 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: your reviews. This one comes from Val Vesga Vezga, who writes, Hey, 410 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: I love your podcast and I'm a Britney Spears fan 411 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: slash aspiring law students, so I was very happy to 412 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: listen to the Free Britney episodes. However, I'm concerned through 413 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: exclamation points because you describe the mole at the Free 414 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: Britney protests as wearing short shorts and fishnet tights with 415 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: an old Circus Tour T shirt. And that was me 416 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: pictures attached. I'm not a mole. These are my lifelong 417 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: friends and I was a major part of helping the 418 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: movement get organized, including my change dot org petition with 419 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: eighty thousand signatures that I sent as a nuisance via 420 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: facts to Sam Ingram twice a week. Imagine my surprise 421 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: and horror when you said that for excamation points. I 422 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: know you were just characterizing the unknown mole, but what 423 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: are the chances? Anyway, loved the podcast, just how to 424 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: clear my name? You got it? Val, That's incredible, Thanks Pal. 425 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate the email and the pictures of course. Disgrace 426 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: sampod at gmail dot com. Guys, you want to get 427 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: in touch. Let's do one more of these emails, all right. 428 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: This one comes from Justin, who sends me a picture 429 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: of Phil Lineen from Thin Lizzie and says it's the boys' 430 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: birthday today would have been seventy five. I love thn 431 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: Lizzie for the tenth thousandth frickin' time. Okay, let's see 432 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: what else are we talking about here, Disgrace slam Pot 433 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. You guys, want to send me 434 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: an email? A right? Oh, some reviews. The reviews have 435 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: been great, guys. The best way you can help this show, 436 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: as you know, is to leave a review on Apple 437 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: Podcasts or on Spotify. Okay, this helps with discovery, and 438 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: as you also know, I pick a couple reviewers every week. 439 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: I read them here on air. You hear your names, 440 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: you send me an email, and then I send you 441 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: some merchandise whatever we got lying around, T shirts, pins, patches, 442 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: whatever it is. I'm not making any promises you're gonna 443 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: get something, okay, but you got to hear your name 444 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: and you gotta email me. You gotta be patient. Okay, 445 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: I've getting to you. I am. I promise I'm getting 446 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: to you. Got to some of you already. I'll get 447 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: to some more. Keep the reviews coming, We very much 448 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Chris Hillman on Spotify Rights Jake loved this 449 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: episode on River. Such a great young talent, gone way 450 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: too soon. I watch Stand by Me so many times 451 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: growing up, and it's still one of my favorite movies. 452 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: The mass puking scene is great. A shame River had 453 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: so many addictions and he couldn't overcome. He would have 454 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: been a great actor by today's standards, the best actor 455 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: of the nineteen nineties, though, my pick would be Tom 456 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: Hanks Saving Private and Ryan far As Gump, to name 457 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: a few. Love Disgraceland. Keep up the great work. You 458 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: got it, Chris, appreciate you. Chris, get in touch. We'll 459 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: get you some merch. Kelsey Marie writes on Apple Podcasts, 460 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: simple the best. I think she means simply the best 461 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: five stars. Kelsey goes on to say, my brother and 462 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: I have nine year age gap, so growing up, we 463 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot in common. What we did have 464 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: in common, though, was the love for music our parents 465 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: instilled in us, and now in our thirties and forties, 466 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: we still enjoy sharing new music or rediscovered music with 467 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: each other. When I discovered Disgraceland a few years ago, 468 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: it reminded me so much of the conversations my brother 469 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: and I would have. I shared it with him, and 470 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: now every Thursday, he, my sister in law, my partner, 471 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: and I get together to have an after after party, 472 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: discussing the episodes, curating playlists, and just having a good time. Kelsey, 473 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: you were the best. Your brother's the best, So is 474 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: your sister in law, and so is your partner. Kelsey, 475 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: don't bogart those playlists sharing with us, Okay, hit us 476 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: up at disgrace landpod on. I don't know where where 477 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: where I guess Instagram, where X. Perhaps give us a 478 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: link to the playlist. I'll share them out here. I'll 479 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: direct people to your Spotify or wherever you're putting them together. Guys, 480 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: appreciate the reviews, appreciate the emails. I appreciate the calls. 481 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: I got a question for you. One of the things 482 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: we're thinking about doing here at Disgraceland, for a bunch 483 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: of technical and production reasons that will bore you, is 484 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: moving the full episode a day earlier to Mondays. Honestly, 485 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: I can't see a negative in doing this. But if 486 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: there is some reason that you guys don't want episodes 487 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: on Monday and you prefer them on Tuesdays for some 488 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: reason that they're not considering a good reason, I should say, 489 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: let me know all this would mean to you guys. 490 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: If we shifted this up a day, would be getting 491 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: the episode a day earlier. And I can't see why 492 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: that's a bad thing. So just let me know. That's 493 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: one thing we're considering. Another thing, Like I said, recommendations, 494 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: I missed the recommendation. I'm miss talking to you guys 495 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: about what I'm listening to, what I'm watching, and what 496 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm reading. And yeah, if you got torreccent in my way, 497 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: all right, and uh, I'm thinking I'm noodling, I'm noodling 498 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: on some recommendation stuff for you guys. All Right, this 499 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: episode is hearing, it's end the after party. It's going 500 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: to continue for you All Access members. You know that, 501 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: you non All Access members, you probably know that too. 502 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: You probably also know how you can get the rest 503 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: of this after party, How you can get AD free listening, 504 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: how you can get an extra episode of Disgraceland every month. 505 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: It is by becoming an All Access member, and if 506 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: you do so on Patreon, now you're going to get 507 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: entrance into that after party live stream that I was 508 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: talking about as well. You got to go to disgracelampod 509 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: dot com slash membership to become an all Access member. 510 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: All right. Also from the realm of things that we're 511 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: considering doing here at the show to make this a 512 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: more valuable experience for you guys, is letting the all 513 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: Access members pick the All Access episodes, that extra full 514 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: episode that you're going to get per month. How does 515 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: that sound. That's something we're thinking about doing. Very close 516 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: to pulling the trigger on that disgrace landpod dot com 517 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: slash membership. We're gonna take a quick break back in flash. 518 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: All right, we are back before we wrap up, however, 519 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: go get your tickets Disgraceland live streams coming on October ninth, 520 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: moment dot co slash Disgraceland. All right, I'm about to 521 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: get out, but before I do, before next week's episode 522 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: on Matthew Perry, there will be a rewind episode from 523 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: our archive popping up in your feed. Speaking of the archive, 524 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: we mentioned Benmontage, a keyboard extraordinaire from Tom Petty's Heartbreakers, 525 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: and we of course have an episode on Tom Petty 526 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: in our archive episode number ninety four, released on January 527 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: twenty fifth, twenty twenty two. I love this episode gets 528 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: into the weird Arson involving his house and the burning 529 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: down to his house and all that. You're gonna love it. 530 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: If you haven't heard it, go check that out. We 531 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: also mentioned Flee from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and 532 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: though we don't have an episode on the Chili Peppers, 533 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: we do have an episode on Chet Baker. What does 534 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: Chet Baker fame jazz joke you have to do with 535 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: Flee from the Red Hot Chili Peppers? Well, just as 536 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: Flea acted in My Own Private Idaho with River Phoenix. 537 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: I but he didn't know that, or maybe he did, 538 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: who knows. Flee also appeared alongside Chet Baker in the 539 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: excellent documentary Let's Get Lost. Okay, if you want those 540 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: James Dean of Jazz romance vibes, you want to explore 541 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: the weird deaths of Chet Baker and hear about his 542 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: days as a cat burglar while also being a famed 543 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: trumpet player, then check out our Chet Baker episode from 544 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: September ninth, twenty twenty that's episode number sixty three. We 545 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: also mentioned Sofia Coppola. Sofia Coppola's dad directed The Godfather. 546 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: The Godfather starred al Pacino. Al Pacino Is episode one 547 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight released just a couple of months 548 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: ago on July thirtieth, So you get that for you 549 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: if you're ready for beginning right around that time, Okay, 550 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: July of this year, twenty twenty four, right around the time, 551 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: a little bit after the al Pacino episode, beginning around 552 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: the time we released the Metallica episode, the Britney Murphy 553 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: episode from a couple weeks ago. Right around that time, 554 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: we started to experience a new jump in listenership. So 555 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you to all the 556 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: new listeners out there. I continue to bang this drum 557 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: about our archive, and I want you guys to know 558 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: if you knew, we have episodes for you guys on 559 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: a wide a rare artist. The ones I just mentioned 560 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: here only scratch the surface. Dive into that disgraceing in archive. 561 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: Binja Way, Miles Davis, the Eagles, YouTube, Blondie in excess, 562 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: so so so many more discos all you old time heads, 563 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: you guys who have been spreading the word continuously and 564 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: helping to bring the new listeners in. Thank you. I 565 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you. You know it all right. I get to 566 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: get out of here. So let's recap, shall we. Number 567 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: one right now in your feed our episode on River Phoenix, 568 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: number two coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive, 569 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: and we were talking about Matthew Perry in next week's episode. 570 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: So I want to know from you guys, which is 571 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: the best television show of all time? And why? Hit 572 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: me up? Six one seven nine oh six six six 573 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: three eight leave me voicemail. Sent me a text to 574 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: let me know. Number three merch winners, get in touch. 575 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: You know who you are. Number four get tickets to 576 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: the Disgraceland live stream on October ninth at moment dot 577 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: co slash Disgraceland. Number five. Remember, no one cares about 578 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: great storytelling more than you do. And well that's a disgrace, 579 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: all right. In honor of the subject of our most 580 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: recent episode on River Phoenix, me reading to you the 581 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: Billboard charts from the day River Died October thirty first, 582 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. Number one dream Lover Mariah Carey last 583 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: week one Peak position one weeks on Chart thirteen number two. 584 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: I do anything for love, but I won't do that 585 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: meet off last week three, peak position two weeks on 586 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: chart seven five number three All that She Wants ace 587 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: of base number last week four peak position three weeks 588 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: on Chart A seven peak peak number four just kicks 589 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Skates last three number said to number three Peak positions 590 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: on your last seven seventh last number seven one two 591 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: hours staff side peak position three Sure number six, Quit 592 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: talking and start mixing. You blew it