WEBVTT - NFL Week 14 Reaction: Eagles & Chiefs FALLING APART, Bills NOW OR NEVER, Shedeur drama | Nick Wright 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.120 Welcome in What's Driving the Grid Episode four oh one. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.160 First four hundred episodes of this show, we did the 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:13.880 Chiefs were the pre eminent contender in the NFL. Episode 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.280 four oh one is our first show with the Chiefs 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:21.120 out of contention almost entirely. It's a brave new world 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.400 for the rest of this NFL season, and we'll get 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.119 all into it. This episode of What's Right with the 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.520 Grid is presented to you by boost Mobile demands, how 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.680 are you great? To see you look fantastic? I'm doing 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:40.400 Rested is now officially one month old. The all right, 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.000 this is really embarrassing, and I you know, I have 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.760 strengths and weakness since as a parent now also a grandparent. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.560 Is her birthday November eighth or ninth? It's the ninth, 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:55.160 the ninth. Okay, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.880 But I got one month old pictures yesterday. It was 0:00:59.920 --> 0:01:02.000 the eighth, and I was born. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:08.399 Like was this and a half? Yeah you, but yeah, 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:08.959 she was born. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.600 She was born in the middle of the night the 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:15.319 eighth into the ninth. Got it, Okay, good, I have it. Okay, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.440 that's what I thought. Feel better about it. That picture, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.560 the pictures of your baby were really the only good 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.880 things I got this weekend, So that was good, and 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.520 people did seem to like the way we opened First 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:35.280 Things First yesterday. I don't know who votes on Sports Emmys, 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:40.280 but if Sports Emmys are voted on by quote tweets, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.760 We're crushing. We're gonna We're gonna annihilate it. Uh So 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.960 we do have to get to the Kansady Chiefs. We 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.920 do have to get to uh an unbelievable Monday night 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.080 football game. And I'm just telling you. I said this 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.120 off the air, I'm saying it on the air now. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:03.520 Misery loves company and there is no silver lining to 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.880 this Chief season. But the only way that I'll be 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:13.400 able to survive it is I might turn into the 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.799 next few months a world class hater. I'm just letting 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:22.360 everyone know. I'm letting listen. I've got the I have 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.000 some carve outs. I have a soft spot in my 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.680 heart for Matt Stafford in the Rams. I obviously like 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:33.400 Baker and the Bucks, the Prince and the Jags. Sneaky 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:38.760 just winning games. And you know what, I've always said 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:44.000 that I do believe at some point the Buffalo Bills 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:50.120 are gonna get over and no better time than now. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.520 And again, the hater in me also feels like having 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.079 the yeah but yeah, but you won the super Bowl 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.960 the year Mahomes wasn't in the playoffs. It's like any 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:07.120 super like. Uh So those teams I feel good about 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:12.560 and I can see myself pulling for once the playoffs begin. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:22.320 Everybody else, but most notably the Philadelphia Eagles. Folks, we're 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:28.520 our ship is sinking together. Baltimore Ravens, you're you might 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:33.520 be overboard before me. Cincinnati Bengals. I don't even really 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.480 think about the Bengals anymore, but they did beat the 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.880 Chiefs once upon a time in a playoff game. You 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:45.400 got nine losses already, the we're all we are all 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.120 falling together. I got nothing against the Lions, but you 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.880 know what they're in, so they're fine. We'll get into 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.800 all of it. And then, but most notable, well, it 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.920 doesn't matter, we'll get into all of it. We'll talk 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.280 about the Chiefs in a second. First, this episode of 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:02.680 What's Right and the Card is brought to you by 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.920 Boost Mobile and Straight to Voicemail, of course, is brought 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.400 to you by Boost Mobile. And I do I'm not 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.480 gonna do the thing I did a couple of weeks 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.720 ago where the Chiefs lost, and then I didn't lead 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.680 with the Chiefs. But I am gonna spend ninety seconds 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.799 on the college football Playoff because I thought Miami should 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.560 get in over Notre Dame. I also thought though Notre 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.800 Dame had an argument to get in over Alabama. But 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.839 this is and Jokic's past, Jordan and crisis. Josh Hard 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.920 hands off his kid to Mitchell Robinson. But just real quick, 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.479 Oh that's adorable. I love that. I like I like 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.240 that picture a lot. Go ahead. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:45.960 Oh no, I just said the baby on the shoh yeah, 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.280 give me ninety seconds hear in the college football Playoff 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:50.880 because I just want to get on the record about this, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.560 and we'll put this on the internet if we want to. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:05:00.400 I supported expanding the playoff from four to twelve, not 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.360 because there were ever going to be twelve deserving teams, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:09.160 but because of a year just like this year, where 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:15.440 there is one unimpeachable team that obviously deserves to be 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:21.240 there in Indiana, and then more than three teams that 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.440 have an argument they should be included in a chance 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:30.360 to win the national championship, those being, of course, Ohio State, Georgia, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:37.120 Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss. And there's one more that 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:42.559 I'm forgetting. Uh who was the who was the seventh seed? 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.599 Was it Oklahoma? The I should have oh, A and 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.240 M pardon me A and M and I give the 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.600 and Oklahoma throw them in as well. The whole reason 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.640 for expanding the playoff, apologies to my friends today and 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.880 him my buddy John Lopez, was to make sure you're 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:06.800 not having to choose between Texas Tech and Oregon. The 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.640 whole reason of expanding the playoffs was to make sure 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:15.159 that you're not having to choose between Ole Miss and Georgia, 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.200 even though that wouldn't have been given what Georgia did 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.719 that hard of a decision. The point of the playoff 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:25.080 was not to make sure a team with Miami or 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:31.560 Texas or Notre Dame or BYU or Alabama's resume gets in. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.120 So any of those teams that get in, just be 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:39.680 happy about it. And any of those teams you are 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:45.320 if you are arguing we were tenth, then you've lost. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:51.840 So I just don't care about Notre Dame versus Miami 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.279 versus Alabama. Because the point of the playoff was not 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.880 to accommodate them. The point of the playoff was to 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:03.880 make sure that Texas Tech doesn't get left out for 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:08.800 Oregon or vice versa. The playoff has accomplished that, so 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:13.360 that's what matters here. You expand from four to twelve 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.120 to make sure years like this year, where there are 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.360 six or seven teams that have a legitimate claim their 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.520 top four, all of them get in. That's why you 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.960 do it everyone else. And it's not to say one 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.640 of those teams can't somehow peel a championship. Ohio State 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.160 did it last year, duck not. The point point is 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:43.440 you did not expand the playoff to accommodate the Miamis 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.120 and Notre Dames of twenty twenty five. You expanded the 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.760 playoff to make sure the Ole miss and Oregons of 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:56.720 twenty twenty five didn't get left out. Okay, like rate 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:08.040 subscribe review please. The Chiefs are six and seven. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:15.120 Demosey, Yeah, it's grim. They have lost now four of 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.600 their last five after that game with Houston. This is 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.360 the first time I think it kind of looked like 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.240 the cold was effecting the Chiefs. Old line was cook 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.400 Kelsey had some drops, Rice had some drops, Mahomes was 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.240 limping around. Is there any type of silver lining or 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.320 any type of hope that you're holding on to after 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.400 this last game through the end of the season, All. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:40.560 Right, Well, listen. The hope is like, do they have 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.800 a path to the playoffs? And the answer is yes technically, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.640 but and the simplest way to explain their path to 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.079 the playoffs and then we'll get into what has happened. 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:55.560 But let me just get this out of the way. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:09:01.120 They have to go four and zero home Chargers at Titans, home, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:07.680 Broncos at Raiders. The Colts can't go three and one. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.640 Not worried about that. They're they're I mean, they're thinking 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.600 about starting Philip Rivers. So the Colts part of it, 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:21.480 to me is easy because the Colts have Seahawks, Niners, Jags, Texans. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.240 So the the let's just say the Colts are out 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:32.400 and then the Chargers have to go either zero to 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:38.760 four or one in three, with one of the losses 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:43.000 being to Denver in Week eighteen. The simplest way to 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:47.040 look at can the Chiefs make the playoffs is they 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.640 have to beat the Chargers this weekend. They then have 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.720 to beat the Titans the Broncos and the Raiders, and 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:59.880 the Chargers have to then lose to Denver and Wi 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:06.360 week eighteen and to either the Texans or the Cowboys 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:11.800 in week sixteen seventeen. If that happens, the Chiefs make it. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.839 And when I lay it out that way, I can 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:20.400 tell by the look on Demanda's face it doesn't seem impossible. 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.920 It's like, Okay, Chiefs gotta beat the Chargers, the Titans 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.079 and the Raiders are awful home game against the Broncos. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.080 They could do it. And then for the Chargers, can 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.640 they lose to Denver in week eighteen and to either 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:41.200 the Texans or the Cowboys. It's like, oh, maybe, Like yeah, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:49.360 that's possible. The problem is this, as evidenced by the 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:57.600 Chiefs game Sunday night, the Chiefs are not a reliable 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:09.400 team right now. And they lost Sunday Night for ten 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:20.559 different reasons, and they were all little microcosms for what's 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:25.319 happened all season long that has put them in this 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:31.880 position in no particular order, just kind of running list right. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:36.040 Bad special teams for the first time of this era. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.760 That missed field goal at the end of the first 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:44.920 half ended up being absolutely brutal particularly because if they 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.920 were up thirteen to ten instead of tied ten to ten, 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.400 they wouldn't have gone for that fourth and one, which 0:11:52.640 --> 0:12:00.560 then leads me to some very shaky situational coaching from Andy. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.880 At times, it feels like he has been more aggressive 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.040 than not. It feels like he has been way more 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:14.960 aggressive than any year than years past, yet oddly passive 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:20.280 in the Cowboys game when both teams are moving the 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.280 ball up and down the field, and then insanely aggressive 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.280 in the Texans game when that Texans offense was dead 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.600 on arrival in the second half, like that going for 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:38.080 that fourth down when at that moment Chris Jones has 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:45.320 taken over the game entirely is I hated it in 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.480 real time. I don't care what the analytical model said. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.600 The flow of that game. The Texans were not scoring 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:56.080 again and the Chiefs didn't need to do that. I 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.040 love Andy, but that was a mistake, so that bit 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.520 them in this game. I mentioned Chris Jones. He was 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.880 unreal in the second half of this football game. But 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:11.000 the fact that the Chiefs all year long have only 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.320 been able to generate any type of quarterback pressure when 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:23.400 Chris Jones is dominant is a collective failure. I don't 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.440 know how many times I've talked to Monsey about third 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:32.360 and longs. They gave up a third and sixteen in 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.440 this game they gave up Listen, the third and ten 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:42.120 that they gave up on the pass interference was shaky, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.960 but they gave up a third and eight previously, like 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:51.040 third and long defense was a problem. I'm not Patrick's 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.720 game was odd because obviously the stat line is the 0:13:54.760 --> 0:14:03.280 stat line, and he missed some throws. I also thought 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.720 he had some heroic moments and was the least of 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:15.480 our problems. But he did throw that pit the second pick. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.880 He threw the one in the second half on third 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.200 and six deep down the field Hollywood, Brown's open, and 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:28.000 he underthrows him. The inability to get on the same 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.520 page on the deep ball has been a problem all year, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.240 and when he has gotten on the same page, like 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.720 the bomb to Taekwan Thornton, the perfect sixty yard pass, 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:43.520 Thornton doesn't reel it in. Kelsey has actually been really 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.800 good this year. He's he's second in I think amongst 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.480 Titans and yards and catches, but his bad moments have 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.440 been awful. The drop against Philly that flipped that game, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:04.560 the drop against the Texans that ended this game, the 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.200 total inability to have any run game other than from 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:13.760 Patrick Mahomes aside from Kareem Hunting, the Colts game has 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.440 been a killer. Patrick's led them in rushing four times 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.840 this year. They're owing four in those games all and 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:25.520 so going into this game, you knew the offensive line 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.920 was a problem. They were down three starters. In the 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.040 first play of the game, one of the backups went down. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.400 But honestly, the third string kid that came in as 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.280 a pole, I think is how you say his name? 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.080 It's p O l E, but I don't think it's 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:44.760 pronounced pole played really well. And the Chiefs game plan, 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.320 knowing it was not the quick, quick, quick. They didn't 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:53.360 lose because the offensive line was in shambles. They lost 0:15:53.440 --> 0:16:04.520 because they haven't executed. And this is this is Demand's 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:13.680 why I was so adamant all of last year that 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:18.200 I did not care what the advanced stats said that 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:22.800 that was a great team because winning in the NFL, 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:30.000 we haven't solved it yet through success rate and EPA 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:35.880 per play and DVOA, we just haven't. And it's one 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:41.360 of the beautiful things about Pro football is. It hasn't 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:45.240 been sabermetric to the way baseball has where we just 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:51.280 know everything. And last year's team, yes, of course there 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.440 were some lucky bounces, and yes, of course there were 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.800 a couple of few wins that could have been losses. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:05.960 But overall that team understood, like a great tennis player does, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:11.880 the four or five highest leverage leverage moments of a match, 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.679 and that's when they execute their best. This year, this 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:22.840 Chiefs team has been the exact opposite, and I can go. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:30.199 I can Week one, after being thoroughly outplayed, you have 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.760 the Chargers in a third and fifteen to get the 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:39.439 ball back and Chris Jones doesn't keep containing Herbert runs 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:44.320 and you lose. Week two, you're about to take the 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.840 lead on the goal line and Kelsey doesn't secure the ball, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:56.639 tips it up and it's intercepted the the loss to 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:05.320 the Jags. Patrick doesn't see a lurking d lineman with 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:10.119 a chance to put the game away. It gets picked 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:18.119 sixth and they lose. The loss. Against the Broncos, you 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:22.359 have bow Nicks in a third and eight with a 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:27.960 fourth quarter lead, and you let him complete an easy 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:35.560 pass over the middle of the field. This has happened 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:47.280 all year, and the Texans game was no different. Fourth 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:54.520 and one tie game, ten minutes left, brutal, cold arrowhead 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.479 on fire on your own thirty against a team that 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.800 has not scored in an hour, hour and a half 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:05.560 of real time, and you ran a play with no 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.480 threat of a run against the best pass Russian football. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:18.439 That's how you lose. And so that's just that's just 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:23.040 where they're at. And I'm not going to where I 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.200 will and I don't know if people want to hear 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:30.560 this or not where I will give myself credit, I guess, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:38.080 but not really credit. This is just more an indictment 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.640 on how other people I think either do sports fandom 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:47.240 or media. I'm not going to make any of the 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:55.159 excuses that people made in the other direction when the 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.520 Chiefs were winning. I'm not good like I'm not blaming 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.560 the reps for the best pass interference call that it 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.000 led to seven Texans points. Bad calls happen. I'm not 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.080 saying it's bad luck. I'm not saying this is actually 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:14.720 deep down a great team. They're not. And I talked 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.679 I don't know how much content I did after the 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.200 Cowboys game. You didn't hear you're not. You didn't hear 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:24.120 me say one thing about the officials, because it's the NFL. Man, 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.200 there's up and down officiating every single week. You bake 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.000 that in. If you're not a loser, you don't create 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:38.199 a stupid conspiracy theory and you deal with it. And 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:46.520 that is that's where they're at now. With all that said, Demons, 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:56.919 if they beat the Chargers on Sunday, a flicker of 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:05.119 hope will return, Yeah, because I will. Now there is 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:17.080 a very real possibility of a cruel circumstance staring at me, 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:30.600 which is because again, nothing if the Chargers beat that. Obviously, 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.360 if the Chargers beat the Chiefs, the Chiefs are dead, 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:40.080 but the Chargers could lose their next three, and if 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:44.240 they beat the Broncos, the Chiefs are dead, just dead. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:49.680 I think technically there is a different possibility of the 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.080 whole like AFC South imploding, but I don't think that's 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.879 a real like I'm that involves like the Cardinals and 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.800 the Raiders winning games like so that for all intents 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.840 and purposes, if the Chargers beat the Broncos, the chief 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:05.119 season's over. And that's in week that's in week eighteen, 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:17.159 and my so that's the So that's what I've tried 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.440 to game out in my head of do I think 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:26.280 it's likely the Broncos are not playing for something that week? 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:30.480 So let's actually, you know what, let's just real quick 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:35.560 talk this out right now. Let's do it, because what 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:46.160 what we know is the Broncos have at least right 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:50.280 now well so, but I don't know if that's good 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:54.800 for the Chiefs or not. So here's the deal. If 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:59.480 we're assuming, obviously none of this matters if the Chiefs 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:05.840 don't beat the Broncos, so that puts the Broncos at 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:13.520 three losses. We need Denver to be playing for I can't, 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:15.440 you know what, there's no way to figure this out, 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.960 to be honest with you, because there's too many unknown 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:22.320 tiebreakers because Denver and the Patriots didn't play head to head. 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:30.960 Right now, when Denver and the pats are have the 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:42.200 same record, the Broncos have the tiebreaker. But so let me. 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.400 This kind of seems like what you're saying. 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:50.479 Yeah, I think I think here's what I But here's 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.600 where I don't. Would wouldn't want them to win their 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.560 next two. I wouldn't want them to win their next too. 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.440 If the Patriots are about to go on a bit 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.560 of a swoon, and then it gives the Broncos the 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:05.959 possibility of having the one seed locked up going The 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.639 worst case scenario is the Broncos have the one seed 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:13.240 locked up going into Week eighteen. That's a disaster. The 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.119 So this isn't good podcast content. I'm not going to 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.320 spend more time on this. What I the because I 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:26.840 can't figure out the exact you know, ramifications right what 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:32.879 I so? What would be the Chiefs? So the point 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.640 that I was trying to make was, after all of 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.399 the trash I've talked on the eleven and two Broncos 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:43.000 all year, if they end up being so good that 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.119 not only do they win the division, but they are 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:51.399 able to rest players and that costs the Chiefs a 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.960 spot in the tournament, which again, for that to even 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:59.480 be a possibility, Kansas City's gotta win all of the 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.800 rest of their games. That would be a That'd be 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:05.440 a cruel mistress, I'll tell you that much. But it's 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.000 a position they've put themselves in. Now, I do want 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:14.240 to say one more thing demands before we get to 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:19.880 the other stuff, which is the how does this impact 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.240 the Mahomes goat stuff, and I'm going to try to 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:32.040 do this quickly, but I I don't even think it 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:36.960 is debatable what I'm about to say. It's just very 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:44.640 simple kind of how linear time works. Okay, even when 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:49.439 missing the playoffs this year, if they do, Patrick Mahomes, 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:58.200 by any metric that you choose, stats, wins, postseason success, 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:07.479 championshipschampionship appearances, by any metric, has had the greatest first 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:11.399 eight years as a starter or first nine years of 0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.720 his career of any player in league history, of any quarterback. 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:21.440 That is not a debate. That is just what the 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:29.800 numbers are now. Obviously, in his quest to become the goat, 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:40.600 you have to incorporate two realities. One is the guy 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:45.000 he's chasing beat him twice in the playoffs, and he'll 0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.360 never be able to beat him because he's long retired. 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.680 That hurts. And the other one is the guy he's 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:58.280 chasing played so incredibly long and had such an unbelievable 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:06.560 final ten years that it is unrealistic to think Patrick 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.560 will play nearly as long as Tom, and so he 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:18.600 needed and needs to rack up accomplishments early and really 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.400 be ahead of the pace because almost he's I don't 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.080 think he's going to play ut at least forty five. 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:29.600 So all of that is just factually true, and so 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:37.000 in that regard, this season hurts him a lot. But 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:45.080 one can acknowledge that while also acknowledging that the idea 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:56.840 that Tom Brady or those Pats never had dips or 0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:00.359 maybe not a season quite like this, but to that 0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:05.840 in a moment is erroneous. Patrick has been a starter 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:12.320 for eight years. Let's assume they missed the playoffs this year. 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:21.040 In those eight years, Patrick has more playoff wins eight years. 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:26.520 Is a starter. Side by side Patrick and Tom, they 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:31.920 have the same number of Super Bowl wins. Patrick has 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:40.000 more playoff wins, regular season wins, playoff appearances, regular season MVPs, 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:45.480 Super Bowl MVPs. In those eight seasons, Tom missed the 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:54.320 playoffs twice. Patrick has missed the playoffs potentially once. In 0:28:54.400 --> 0:29:03.560 those eight seasons, there were three years where Tom's team 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.920 I'm sorry, two years where Tom's team did not win 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:13.640 a playoff game, and three years where Tom's team did 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:18.920 not make the conference championship game, and Patrick's eight years. Again, 0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:22.120 assuming they missed the playoffs, there will be one year 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.400 where they didn't want a playoff game and one year 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:31.240 where they didn't make the conference championship game. Now people 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:35.200 listening to this are yelling two things. Well, one of 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:39.200 those years Tom was hurt. Unfair to use that against him. 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.440 It's totally true, and I'm not using it against him. 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:48.120 I am simply doing linear time. First eight seasons, here's 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.560 what they did. And while you wouldn't use the year 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:54.320 he was hurt and they missed the playoffs against him, 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.200 you also certainly are not going to be like that 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.680 helps him, like that the year he didn't play helps him. 0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:06.000 The other thing people say with regularity is well the 0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:11.560 two year when they missed the playoffs in won nine games, 0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:18.920 Tom wasn't Tom. Okay, I mean, that's that's an okay 0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:24.000 opinion to have, but it is a weird opinion to have. 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.280 If the argument, if you are trying to make the 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:34.000 argument that through eight years, Tom was better, then I 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.960 don't think you can make the argument that year two 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:41.400 of that timeline doesn't count because year two Patrick was 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:45.240 so much better than year two Tom. That doesn't make sense. Now, 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.600 if the argument is at the beginning, Tom wasn't his 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.040 fully for himself, and when he became his fully for himself. 0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.960 They never had a year like this. That is true. 0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:59.440 That cuts in both directions, though, because if you're saying 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:05.000 that early Tom doesn't get knocked for a nine and 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:09.720 seven season because he wasn't really Tom Brady yet, then 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.960 you can't then also be like, but all of the 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:16.240 accomplishments count with the same way he does, Like the 0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.200 Super Bowls count for him, the misplayoffs and count against him. 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.840 I'm not gonna do any of that. I'm simply gonna 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.640 line up the eight years next to each other, and 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:29.320 Patrick's first eight years, by any way you cut it, 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:38.600 even with this year included, outstripped Tom's first eight years. Now. Again, 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.440 the obvious argument against that is, yeah, but do you 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.560 think Patrick's next fifteen are gonna look like Tom's? That's 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:49.640 gonna be very, very difficult, But we're not there yet. 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:55.240 And what I would also add is this, you know 0:31:55.320 --> 0:32:02.360 who also didn't think their next that the second decade 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.440 of his career was gonna look like it did for 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:13.560 Tom Brady. Tom Brady and the Patriots, because twenty eleven 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:18.640