Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Grid Episode four oh one.
Speaker 1: First four hundred episodes of this show, we did the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were the pre eminent contender in the NFL. Episode
Speaker 1: four oh one is our first show with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: out of contention almost entirely. It's a brave new world
Speaker 1: for the rest of this NFL season, and we'll get
Speaker 1: all into it. This episode of What's Right with the
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Speaker 1: are you great? To see you look fantastic? I'm doing
Speaker 1: Rested is now officially one month old. The all right,
Speaker 1: this is really embarrassing, and I you know, I have
Speaker 1: strengths and weakness since as a parent now also a grandparent.
Speaker 1: Is her birthday November eighth or ninth? It's the ninth,
Speaker 1: the ninth. Okay, that's what I thought. That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: But I got one month old pictures yesterday. It was
Speaker 1: the eighth, and I was born.
Speaker 2: Like was this and a half? Yeah you, but yeah,
Speaker 2: she was born.
Speaker 1: She was born in the middle of the night the
Speaker 1: eighth into the ninth. Got it, Okay, good, I have it. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Feel better about it. That picture,
Speaker 1: the pictures of your baby were really the only good
Speaker 1: things I got this weekend, So that was good, and
Speaker 1: people did seem to like the way we opened First
Speaker 1: Things First yesterday. I don't know who votes on Sports Emmys,
Speaker 1: but if Sports Emmys are voted on by quote tweets,
Speaker 1: We're crushing. We're gonna We're gonna annihilate it. Uh So
Speaker 1: we do have to get to the Kansady Chiefs. We
Speaker 1: do have to get to uh an unbelievable Monday night
Speaker 1: football game. And I'm just telling you. I said this
Speaker 1: off the air, I'm saying it on the air now.
Speaker 1: Misery loves company and there is no silver lining to
Speaker 1: this Chief season. But the only way that I'll be
Speaker 1: able to survive it is I might turn into the
Speaker 1: next few months a world class hater. I'm just letting
Speaker 1: everyone know. I'm letting listen. I've got the I have
Speaker 1: some carve outs. I have a soft spot in my
Speaker 1: heart for Matt Stafford in the Rams. I obviously like
Speaker 1: Baker and the Bucks, the Prince and the Jags. Sneaky
Speaker 1: just winning games. And you know what, I've always said
Speaker 1: that I do believe at some point the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: are gonna get over and no better time than now.
Speaker 1: And again, the hater in me also feels like having
Speaker 1: the yeah but yeah, but you won the super Bowl
Speaker 1: the year Mahomes wasn't in the playoffs. It's like any
Speaker 1: super like. Uh So those teams I feel good about
Speaker 1: and I can see myself pulling for once the playoffs begin.
Speaker 1: Everybody else, but most notably the Philadelphia Eagles. Folks, we're
Speaker 1: our ship is sinking together. Baltimore Ravens, you're you might
Speaker 1: be overboard before me. Cincinnati Bengals. I don't even really
Speaker 1: think about the Bengals anymore, but they did beat the
Speaker 1: Chiefs once upon a time in a playoff game. You
Speaker 1: got nine losses already, the we're all we are all
Speaker 1: falling together. I got nothing against the Lions, but you
Speaker 1: know what they're in, so they're fine. We'll get into
Speaker 1: all of it. And then, but most notable, well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, we'll get into all of it. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs in a second. First, this episode of
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Speaker 1: gonna do the thing I did a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago where the Chiefs lost, and then I didn't lead
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. But I am gonna spend ninety seconds
Speaker 1: on the college football Playoff because I thought Miami should
Speaker 1: get in over Notre Dame. I also thought though Notre
Speaker 1: Dame had an argument to get in over Alabama. But
Speaker 1: this is and Jokic's past, Jordan and crisis. Josh Hard
Speaker 1: hands off his kid to Mitchell Robinson. But just real quick,
Speaker 1: Oh that's adorable. I love that. I like I like
Speaker 1: that picture a lot. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I just said the baby on the shoh yeah,
Speaker 3: give me ninety seconds hear in the college football Playoff
Speaker 3: because I just want to get on the record about this,
Speaker 3: and we'll put this on the internet if we want to.
Speaker 1: I supported expanding the playoff from four to twelve, not
Speaker 1: because there were ever going to be twelve deserving teams,
Speaker 1: but because of a year just like this year, where
Speaker 1: there is one unimpeachable team that obviously deserves to be
Speaker 1: there in Indiana, and then more than three teams that
Speaker 1: have an argument they should be included in a chance
Speaker 1: to win the national championship, those being, of course, Ohio State, Georgia,
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss. And there's one more that
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting. Uh who was the who was the seventh seed?
Speaker 1: Was it Oklahoma? The I should have oh, A and
Speaker 1: M pardon me A and M and I give the
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma throw them in as well. The whole reason
Speaker 1: for expanding the playoff, apologies to my friends today and
Speaker 1: him my buddy John Lopez, was to make sure you're
Speaker 1: not having to choose between Texas Tech and Oregon. The
Speaker 1: whole reason of expanding the playoffs was to make sure
Speaker 1: that you're not having to choose between Ole Miss and Georgia,
Speaker 1: even though that wouldn't have been given what Georgia did
Speaker 1: that hard of a decision. The point of the playoff
Speaker 1: was not to make sure a team with Miami or
Speaker 1: Texas or Notre Dame or BYU or Alabama's resume gets in.
Speaker 1: So any of those teams that get in, just be
Speaker 1: happy about it. And any of those teams you are
Speaker 1: if you are arguing we were tenth, then you've lost.
Speaker 1: So I just don't care about Notre Dame versus Miami
Speaker 1: versus Alabama. Because the point of the playoff was not
Speaker 1: to accommodate them. The point of the playoff was to
Speaker 1: make sure that Texas Tech doesn't get left out for
Speaker 1: Oregon or vice versa. The playoff has accomplished that, so
Speaker 1: that's what matters here. You expand from four to twelve
Speaker 1: to make sure years like this year, where there are
Speaker 1: six or seven teams that have a legitimate claim their
Speaker 1: top four, all of them get in. That's why you
Speaker 1: do it everyone else. And it's not to say one
Speaker 1: of those teams can't somehow peel a championship. Ohio State
Speaker 1: did it last year, duck not. The point point is
Speaker 1: you did not expand the playoff to accommodate the Miamis
Speaker 1: and Notre Dames of twenty twenty five. You expanded the
Speaker 1: playoff to make sure the Ole miss and Oregons of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five didn't get left out. Okay, like rate
Speaker 1: subscribe review please. The Chiefs are six and seven.
Speaker 2: Demosey, Yeah, it's grim. They have lost now four of
Speaker 2: their last five after that game with Houston. This is
Speaker 2: the first time I think it kind of looked like
Speaker 2: the cold was effecting the Chiefs. Old line was cook
Speaker 2: Kelsey had some drops, Rice had some drops, Mahomes was
Speaker 2: limping around. Is there any type of silver lining or
Speaker 2: any type of hope that you're holding on to after
Speaker 2: this last game through the end of the season, All.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, listen. The hope is like, do they have
Speaker 1: a path to the playoffs? And the answer is yes technically,
Speaker 1: but and the simplest way to explain their path to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and then we'll get into what has happened.
Speaker 1: But let me just get this out of the way.
Speaker 1: They have to go four and zero home Chargers at Titans, home,
Speaker 1: Broncos at Raiders. The Colts can't go three and one.
Speaker 1: Not worried about that. They're they're I mean, they're thinking
Speaker 1: about starting Philip Rivers. So the Colts part of it,
Speaker 1: to me is easy because the Colts have Seahawks, Niners, Jags, Texans.
Speaker 1: So the the let's just say the Colts are out
Speaker 1: and then the Chargers have to go either zero to
Speaker 1: four or one in three, with one of the losses
Speaker 1: being to Denver in Week eighteen. The simplest way to
Speaker 1: look at can the Chiefs make the playoffs is they
Speaker 1: have to beat the Chargers this weekend. They then have
Speaker 1: to beat the Titans the Broncos and the Raiders, and
Speaker 1: the Chargers have to then lose to Denver and Wi
Speaker 1: week eighteen and to either the Texans or the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in week sixteen seventeen. If that happens, the Chiefs make it.
Speaker 1: And when I lay it out that way, I can
Speaker 1: tell by the look on Demanda's face it doesn't seem impossible.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, Chiefs gotta beat the Chargers, the Titans
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are awful home game against the Broncos.
Speaker 1: They could do it. And then for the Chargers, can
Speaker 1: they lose to Denver in week eighteen and to either
Speaker 1: the Texans or the Cowboys. It's like, oh, maybe, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: that's possible. The problem is this, as evidenced by the
Speaker 1: Chiefs game Sunday night, the Chiefs are not a reliable
Speaker 1: team right now. And they lost Sunday Night for ten
Speaker 1: different reasons, and they were all little microcosms for what's
Speaker 1: happened all season long that has put them in this
Speaker 1: position in no particular order, just kind of running list right.
Speaker 1: Bad special teams for the first time of this era.
Speaker 1: That missed field goal at the end of the first
Speaker 1: half ended up being absolutely brutal particularly because if they
Speaker 1: were up thirteen to ten instead of tied ten to ten,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have gone for that fourth and one, which
Speaker 1: then leads me to some very shaky situational coaching from Andy.
Speaker 1: At times, it feels like he has been more aggressive
Speaker 1: than not. It feels like he has been way more
Speaker 1: aggressive than any year than years past, yet oddly passive
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys game when both teams are moving the
Speaker 1: ball up and down the field, and then insanely aggressive
Speaker 1: in the Texans game when that Texans offense was dead
Speaker 1: on arrival in the second half, like that going for
Speaker 1: that fourth down when at that moment Chris Jones has
Speaker 1: taken over the game entirely is I hated it in
Speaker 1: real time. I don't care what the analytical model said.
Speaker 1: The flow of that game. The Texans were not scoring
Speaker 1: again and the Chiefs didn't need to do that. I
Speaker 1: love Andy, but that was a mistake, so that bit
Speaker 1: them in this game. I mentioned Chris Jones. He was
Speaker 1: unreal in the second half of this football game. But
Speaker 1: the fact that the Chiefs all year long have only
Speaker 1: been able to generate any type of quarterback pressure when
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is dominant is a collective failure. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many times I've talked to Monsey about third
Speaker 1: and longs. They gave up a third and sixteen in
Speaker 1: this game they gave up Listen, the third and ten
Speaker 1: that they gave up on the pass interference was shaky,
Speaker 1: but they gave up a third and eight previously, like
Speaker 1: third and long defense was a problem. I'm not Patrick's
Speaker 1: game was odd because obviously the stat line is the
Speaker 1: stat line, and he missed some throws. I also thought
Speaker 1: he had some heroic moments and was the least of
Speaker 1: our problems. But he did throw that pit the second pick.
Speaker 1: He threw the one in the second half on third
Speaker 1: and six deep down the field Hollywood, Brown's open, and
Speaker 1: he underthrows him. The inability to get on the same
Speaker 1: page on the deep ball has been a problem all year,
Speaker 1: and when he has gotten on the same page, like
Speaker 1: the bomb to Taekwan Thornton, the perfect sixty yard pass,
Speaker 1: Thornton doesn't reel it in. Kelsey has actually been really
Speaker 1: good this year. He's he's second in I think amongst
Speaker 1: Titans and yards and catches, but his bad moments have
Speaker 1: been awful. The drop against Philly that flipped that game,
Speaker 1: the drop against the Texans that ended this game, the
Speaker 1: total inability to have any run game other than from
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes aside from Kareem Hunting, the Colts game has
Speaker 1: been a killer. Patrick's led them in rushing four times
Speaker 1: this year. They're owing four in those games all and
Speaker 1: so going into this game, you knew the offensive line
Speaker 1: was a problem. They were down three starters. In the
Speaker 1: first play of the game, one of the backups went down.
Speaker 1: But honestly, the third string kid that came in as
Speaker 1: a pole, I think is how you say his name?
Speaker 1: It's p O l E, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: pronounced pole played really well. And the Chiefs game plan,
Speaker 1: knowing it was not the quick, quick, quick. They didn't
Speaker 1: lose because the offensive line was in shambles. They lost
Speaker 1: because they haven't executed. And this is this is Demand's
Speaker 1: why I was so adamant all of last year that
Speaker 1: I did not care what the advanced stats said that
Speaker 1: that was a great team because winning in the NFL,
Speaker 1: we haven't solved it yet through success rate and EPA
Speaker 1: per play and DVOA, we just haven't. And it's one
Speaker 1: of the beautiful things about Pro football is. It hasn't
Speaker 1: been sabermetric to the way baseball has where we just
Speaker 1: know everything. And last year's team, yes, of course there
Speaker 1: were some lucky bounces, and yes, of course there were
Speaker 1: a couple of few wins that could have been losses.
Speaker 1: But overall that team understood, like a great tennis player does,
Speaker 1: the four or five highest leverage leverage moments of a match,
Speaker 1: and that's when they execute their best. This year, this
Speaker 1: Chiefs team has been the exact opposite, and I can go.
Speaker 1: I can Week one, after being thoroughly outplayed, you have
Speaker 1: the Chargers in a third and fifteen to get the
Speaker 1: ball back and Chris Jones doesn't keep containing Herbert runs
Speaker 1: and you lose. Week two, you're about to take the
Speaker 1: lead on the goal line and Kelsey doesn't secure the ball,
Speaker 1: tips it up and it's intercepted the the loss to
Speaker 1: the Jags. Patrick doesn't see a lurking d lineman with
Speaker 1: a chance to put the game away. It gets picked
Speaker 1: sixth and they lose. The loss. Against the Broncos, you
Speaker 1: have bow Nicks in a third and eight with a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter lead, and you let him complete an easy
Speaker 1: pass over the middle of the field. This has happened
Speaker 1: all year, and the Texans game was no different. Fourth
Speaker 1: and one tie game, ten minutes left, brutal, cold arrowhead
Speaker 1: on fire on your own thirty against a team that
Speaker 1: has not scored in an hour, hour and a half
Speaker 1: of real time, and you ran a play with no
Speaker 1: threat of a run against the best pass Russian football.
Speaker 1: That's how you lose. And so that's just that's just
Speaker 1: where they're at. And I'm not going to where I
Speaker 1: will and I don't know if people want to hear
Speaker 1: this or not where I will give myself credit, I guess,
Speaker 1: but not really credit. This is just more an indictment
Speaker 1: on how other people I think either do sports fandom
Speaker 1: or media. I'm not going to make any of the
Speaker 1: excuses that people made in the other direction when the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were winning. I'm not good like I'm not blaming
Speaker 1: the reps for the best pass interference call that it
Speaker 1: led to seven Texans points. Bad calls happen. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's bad luck. I'm not saying this is actually
Speaker 1: deep down a great team. They're not. And I talked
Speaker 1: I don't know how much content I did after the
Speaker 1: Cowboys game. You didn't hear you're not. You didn't hear
Speaker 1: me say one thing about the officials, because it's the NFL. Man,
Speaker 1: there's up and down officiating every single week. You bake
Speaker 1: that in. If you're not a loser, you don't create
Speaker 1: a stupid conspiracy theory and you deal with it. And
Speaker 1: that is that's where they're at now. With all that said, Demons,
Speaker 1: if they beat the Chargers on Sunday, a flicker of
Speaker 1: hope will return, Yeah, because I will. Now there is
Speaker 1: a very real possibility of a cruel circumstance staring at me,
Speaker 1: which is because again, nothing if the Chargers beat that. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if the Chargers beat the Chiefs, the Chiefs are dead,
Speaker 1: but the Chargers could lose their next three, and if
Speaker 1: they beat the Broncos, the Chiefs are dead, just dead.
Speaker 1: I think technically there is a different possibility of the
Speaker 1: whole like AFC South imploding, but I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a real like I'm that involves like the Cardinals and
Speaker 1: the Raiders winning games like so that for all intents
Speaker 1: and purposes, if the Chargers beat the Broncos, the chief
Speaker 1: season's over. And that's in week that's in week eighteen,
Speaker 1: and my so that's the So that's what I've tried
Speaker 1: to game out in my head of do I think
Speaker 1: it's likely the Broncos are not playing for something that week?
Speaker 1: So let's actually, you know what, let's just real quick
Speaker 1: talk this out right now. Let's do it, because what
Speaker 1: what we know is the Broncos have at least right
Speaker 1: now well so, but I don't know if that's good
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs or not. So here's the deal. If
Speaker 1: we're assuming, obviously none of this matters if the Chiefs
Speaker 1: don't beat the Broncos, so that puts the Broncos at
Speaker 1: three losses. We need Denver to be playing for I can't,
Speaker 1: you know what, there's no way to figure this out,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because there's too many unknown
Speaker 1: tiebreakers because Denver and the Patriots didn't play head to head.
Speaker 1: Right now, when Denver and the pats are have the
Speaker 1: same record, the Broncos have the tiebreaker. But so let me.
Speaker 2: This kind of seems like what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think here's what I But here's
Speaker 1: where I don't. Would wouldn't want them to win their
Speaker 1: next two. I wouldn't want them to win their next too.
Speaker 1: If the Patriots are about to go on a bit
Speaker 1: of a swoon, and then it gives the Broncos the
Speaker 1: possibility of having the one seed locked up going The
Speaker 1: worst case scenario is the Broncos have the one seed
Speaker 1: locked up going into Week eighteen. That's a disaster. The
Speaker 1: So this isn't good podcast content. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: spend more time on this. What I the because I
Speaker 1: can't figure out the exact you know, ramifications right what
Speaker 1: I so? What would be the Chiefs? So the point
Speaker 1: that I was trying to make was, after all of
Speaker 1: the trash I've talked on the eleven and two Broncos
Speaker 1: all year, if they end up being so good that
Speaker 1: not only do they win the division, but they are
Speaker 1: able to rest players and that costs the Chiefs a
Speaker 1: spot in the tournament, which again, for that to even
Speaker 1: be a possibility, Kansas City's gotta win all of the
Speaker 1: rest of their games. That would be a That'd be
Speaker 1: a cruel mistress, I'll tell you that much. But it's
Speaker 1: a position they've put themselves in. Now, I do want
Speaker 1: to say one more thing demands before we get to
Speaker 1: the other stuff, which is the how does this impact
Speaker 1: the Mahomes goat stuff, and I'm going to try to
Speaker 1: do this quickly, but I I don't even think it
Speaker 1: is debatable what I'm about to say. It's just very
Speaker 1: simple kind of how linear time works. Okay, even when
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs this year, if they do, Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: by any metric that you choose, stats, wins, postseason success,
Speaker 1: championshipschampionship appearances, by any metric, has had the greatest first
Speaker 1: eight years as a starter or first nine years of
Speaker 1: his career of any player in league history, of any quarterback.
Speaker 1: That is not a debate. That is just what the
Speaker 1: numbers are now. Obviously, in his quest to become the goat,
Speaker 1: you have to incorporate two realities. One is the guy
Speaker 1: he's chasing beat him twice in the playoffs, and he'll
Speaker 1: never be able to beat him because he's long retired.
Speaker 1: That hurts. And the other one is the guy he's
Speaker 1: chasing played so incredibly long and had such an unbelievable
Speaker 1: final ten years that it is unrealistic to think Patrick
Speaker 1: will play nearly as long as Tom, and so he
Speaker 1: needed and needs to rack up accomplishments early and really
Speaker 1: be ahead of the pace because almost he's I don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to play ut at least forty five.
Speaker 1: So all of that is just factually true, and so
Speaker 1: in that regard, this season hurts him a lot. But
Speaker 1: one can acknowledge that while also acknowledging that the idea
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady or those Pats never had dips or
Speaker 1: maybe not a season quite like this, but to that
Speaker 1: in a moment is erroneous. Patrick has been a starter
Speaker 1: for eight years. Let's assume they missed the playoffs this year.
Speaker 1: In those eight years, Patrick has more playoff wins eight years.
Speaker 1: Is a starter. Side by side Patrick and Tom, they
Speaker 1: have the same number of Super Bowl wins. Patrick has
Speaker 1: more playoff wins, regular season wins, playoff appearances, regular season MVPs,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVPs. In those eight seasons, Tom missed the
Speaker 1: playoffs twice. Patrick has missed the playoffs potentially once. In
Speaker 1: those eight seasons, there were three years where Tom's team
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, two years where Tom's team did not win
Speaker 1: a playoff game, and three years where Tom's team did
Speaker 1: not make the conference championship game, and Patrick's eight years. Again,
Speaker 1: assuming they missed the playoffs, there will be one year
Speaker 1: where they didn't want a playoff game and one year
Speaker 1: where they didn't make the conference championship game. Now people
Speaker 1: listening to this are yelling two things. Well, one of
Speaker 1: those years Tom was hurt. Unfair to use that against him.
Speaker 1: It's totally true, and I'm not using it against him.
Speaker 1: I am simply doing linear time. First eight seasons, here's
Speaker 1: what they did. And while you wouldn't use the year
Speaker 1: he was hurt and they missed the playoffs against him,
Speaker 1: you also certainly are not going to be like that
Speaker 1: helps him, like that the year he didn't play helps him.
Speaker 1: The other thing people say with regularity is well the
Speaker 1: two year when they missed the playoffs in won nine games,
Speaker 1: Tom wasn't Tom. Okay, I mean, that's that's an okay
Speaker 1: opinion to have, but it is a weird opinion to have.
Speaker 1: If the argument, if you are trying to make the
Speaker 1: argument that through eight years, Tom was better, then I
Speaker 1: don't think you can make the argument that year two
Speaker 1: of that timeline doesn't count because year two Patrick was
Speaker 1: so much better than year two Tom. That doesn't make sense. Now,
Speaker 1: if the argument is at the beginning, Tom wasn't his
Speaker 1: fully for himself, and when he became his fully for himself.
Speaker 1: They never had a year like this. That is true.
Speaker 1: That cuts in both directions, though, because if you're saying
Speaker 1: that early Tom doesn't get knocked for a nine and
Speaker 1: seven season because he wasn't really Tom Brady yet, then
Speaker 1: you can't then also be like, but all of the
Speaker 1: accomplishments count with the same way he does, Like the
Speaker 1: Super Bowls count for him, the misplayoffs and count against him.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do any of that. I'm simply gonna
Speaker 1: line up the eight years next to each other, and
Speaker 1: Patrick's first eight years, by any way you cut it,
Speaker 1: even with this year included, outstripped Tom's first eight years. Now. Again,
Speaker 1: the obvious argument against that is, yeah, but do you
Speaker 1: think Patrick's next fifteen are gonna look like Tom's? That's
Speaker 1: gonna be very, very difficult, But we're not there yet.
Speaker 1: And what I would also add is this, you know
Speaker 1: who also didn't think their next that the second decade
Speaker 1: of his career was gonna look like it did for
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Tom Brady and the Patriots, because twenty eleven
Speaker 1: to twenty eighteen was the Pats run that comes closest
Speaker 1: that actually outstrips. Now this Chiefs run twenty eleven to
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. So the Patriots had one to seven seven years,
Speaker 1: three four super Bowl appearances, three championships the Chiefs eighteen
Speaker 1: to twenty five seven years, five super Bowl appearances, three
Speaker 1: championships the Patriots in that time, or eighteen to twenty four,
Speaker 1: I should have said for the Chiefs. Patriots in that
Speaker 1: time missed the playoffs once, didn't make the conference championship
Speaker 1: game two times. The Chiefs missed playoff zero times, didn't
Speaker 1: make the conference championship games zero times. And then there's
Speaker 1: the Patriot run of eleven to eighteen that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: had been chasing eight straight conference championship games, the only
Speaker 1: streak longer than the Chiefs won. Right now, five super
Speaker 1: Bowl appearances same as the Chiefs, three super Bowl victories,
Speaker 1: same as the Chiefs. If the Chiefs missed the playoffs
Speaker 1: this year, then this eight year run they also went
Speaker 1: to three straight Super Bowls like the Chiefs did, then
Speaker 1: this eight eight year run falls just short of that one.
Speaker 1: But notice the timeline I did demanse was one to
Speaker 1: seven and then eleven to eighteen. And the reason I
Speaker 1: did that, and this is again, if people are interested
Speaker 1: in being having a real discussion about the resume side
Speaker 1: by side, You then have to include that in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and twenty ten,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the New England Patriots in those three
Speaker 1: years won a total of zero playoff games. So the
Speaker 1: only reason I bring that up is, let's assume the
Speaker 1: Chiefs missed the playoffs this year in year eight. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the The symmetry of this is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in his seventh year as a starter, walked
Speaker 1: onto the field in the Super Bowl attempting to win
Speaker 1: his fourth championship and cement that team as the greatest
Speaker 1: team in the history of the league. They lost, and
Speaker 1: the next year was a season from hell because Tom
Speaker 1: got his knee blown out in Week one. The next
Speaker 1: year they won ten game and got beat by twenty
Speaker 1: in the wild card round of the playoffs. And the
Speaker 1: next year they were the number one seed and lost
Speaker 1: to Mark Sanchez at home in their first playoff game,
Speaker 1: and then they started the eleven to eighteen eight straight
Speaker 1: conference championship game run. Patrick Mahomes, in his seventh year
Speaker 1: as a starter, walked onto the field trying to win
Speaker 1: his fourth Super Bowl and knowing if we win this game,
Speaker 1: we are the greatest team of all time. They lost,
Speaker 1: and the following year was a season from hell. He
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt, but it looks like they're going to
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs again if Brady is following the Mahomes timeline.
Speaker 1: If Mahomes is following the Brady timeline, that would mean
Speaker 1: the Chiefs don't win a playoff game again until twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight. That the next two years they don't win
Speaker 1: a playoff game. I don't think that's gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: also don't think Patrick's gonna play twenty four years. I
Speaker 1: don't think their careers are going to be identical moving forward.
Speaker 1: But through eight years, it's stunning how similar the overall
Speaker 1: team's success has been. And the Patriots after that seven
Speaker 1: season and then the eight season had to do a
Speaker 1: bit of a reboot. We'll see what the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: to do. So that is the full version of it.
Speaker 1: I that's where we're at, and we'll see if they
Speaker 1: pull me back in with a win Sunday against the Chargers.
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Speaker 1: demand's let's talk a little AFC title window.
Speaker 2: The Bills are now the favorite to win in the
Speaker 2: AFC after their win over the Bengals. Following them are
Speaker 2: the Broncos and the Patriots, but those are obviously younger
Speaker 2: teams with those newer quarterbacks. If Kansas City misses the playoffs,
Speaker 2: who is the favorite to win in the AFC or
Speaker 2: who has the most pressure to win in the AFC.
Speaker 2: Let's say it's the bell I.
Speaker 1: Mean, it's not. Yeah, it's the Bills by a country mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Bills have to make the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1: It's not even that's not a hot take. That's not complex.
Speaker 1: It is if they walk into the playoffs and the
Speaker 1: Ravens aren't there, and Joe Burrow's not there and Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes isn't there, they have to come out of it.
Speaker 1: They have lost in the playoffs to Joe and Patrick
Speaker 1: five consecutive years. Twenty twenty AFC Championship game to Patrick,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, thirteen second game, Divisional Round to Patrick
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two in their stadium in the snow, to
Speaker 1: Joe twenty twenty three, Divisional Round game in their stadium,
Speaker 1: to Patrick, twenty twenty four AFC Championship game at Arrowhead
Speaker 1: to Patrick. If they go to the postseason and standing
Speaker 1: between them is Bo Knicks, is Denver Broncos second year
Speaker 1: stud first playoff appearance, Drake May the Prince and the Jags,
Speaker 1: a more abund offense in Houston who already beat them once,
Speaker 1: and whoever the hell comes out of the AFC north
Speaker 1: forty two year old Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, and
Speaker 1: then the Chargers and Justin Herbert, you have to make
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And I'm telling you right now, Demansey,
Speaker 1: they would be my pick. They've got it. Josh is
Speaker 1: playing great. This is the moment. They would be my pick.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to play them. Wild is pretending like he's
Speaker 1: not scared. He's petrified. And the it would be it
Speaker 1: would be a catastrophe for Buffalo to not make the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And they look listen that the that game
Speaker 1: they played against Cincinnati, that's just what they get. It's
Speaker 1: just gotta be Josh Allen, Live or die with your
Speaker 1: bro will just you know, crazy rhinoceros Josh Allen, and
Speaker 1: he looks awesome, and he the rollercoaster will be back
Speaker 1: to a degree. He'll have some ups and downs. But
Speaker 1: I they shouldn't need here's the here's how I would
Speaker 1: see it playing out. They shouldn't need monster Josh Allen
Speaker 1: performance to go to Pittsburgh and win in round one.
Speaker 1: That should just happen. They should just be able to
Speaker 1: pretty methodically beat them round two. And then if the
Speaker 1: let's just say the Seeds hold and you play Denver
Speaker 1: and New England in round two and three, or New
Speaker 1: England and Denver and round two and three like you know,
Speaker 1: don't know which round round two. Whoever, whenever you play
Speaker 1: bow Nicks, Josh should just be able to make just
Speaker 1: that's it. Don't make mistakes. See if bo Knicks can
Speaker 1: you know, make enough plays? Yes, great defense, and then
Speaker 1: against against the Patriots, I think he'd have to go superhero.
Speaker 1: I think he can do it. And it's just such
Speaker 1: a go ahead.
Speaker 2: They're plus three seventy five to in the AFC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes them like co favorites. They're my they're
Speaker 1: my pick right now. And here is the insane thing
Speaker 1: about the NFL this year to last year. Here's the
Speaker 1: full list of monse of teams that won twelve or
Speaker 1: more games last year and their current situation. The Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions currently out of the playoffs, the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: currently out of the playoffs, the Philadelphia Eagles in the
Speaker 1: midst of a crisis, the Minnesota Vikings awful, the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: pause on them, the Baltimore Ravens disaster, and the Washington
Speaker 1: Commanders season from hell. Seven teams won twelve or more
Speaker 1: games last year. Two of them, Minnesota and Washington, are dead.
Speaker 1: Another two Kansas City and Baltimore are hanging on for
Speaker 1: dear life. Detroit is trying to scrape its way in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is in the midst of a free fall, and
Speaker 1: Buffalo's sitting right there. It could not be better set
Speaker 1: up for them. And that's why I am not taking
Speaker 1: Josh Allen going to his press conference and saying never
Speaker 1: a doubt as a shot at me. I'm taking it
Speaker 1: as he's trying to usher as much good karma as possible.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm good with it. You know,
Speaker 1: if it, if it's gotta be anybody, I'm glad it's
Speaker 1: them actually, like they deserve it now the Rams. We're
Speaker 1: not talking to ANYFC right now. A bunch of NFC
Speaker 1: teams deserve it and are good enough. But just talking
Speaker 1: about the AFC. All right, let's go over to the
Speaker 1: NFC demanse.
Speaker 2: Uh So, it's your first time rooting for the Eagles
Speaker 2: last night and it went pretty poorly because they lost
Speaker 2: the game. I don't know how many turnovers they had
Speaker 2: that game, but that was that was one of the
Speaker 2: craziest games ever see in my life. How bad are
Speaker 2: things in Philly after last night?
Speaker 1: I mean bad enough that the headline for the Philly
Speaker 1: Inquirer today is should they bench Jalen Hurts for Tanner McKee.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty bad rough over there, man right.
Speaker 1: I know nobody wants to hear this from me today,
Speaker 1: but I owe the audience honesty, and even if this
Speaker 1: ole piss off people that already don't like me, so
Speaker 1: be it, because I think deep down everybody knows it,
Speaker 1: particularly people on the team. The Eagles have a jail
Speaker 1: and Hurts problem. He for some reason does not trust
Speaker 1: himself on quick decisions, and because of that, the offense
Speaker 1: does not function properly. And then a game like last
Speaker 1: night comes around where he makes a mistake and its
Speaker 1: snowballs in honestly cartoonish fashion. I mean, the guy had
Speaker 1: thrown two picks on the year. He threw four yesterday,
Speaker 1: including it's first and ten in overtime inside the red zone,
Speaker 1: and he makes a hero play and they lose the
Speaker 1: game because of it. So I don't know, like you
Speaker 1: can't have this much? Is some wrong with the offense?
Speaker 1: Is some wrong with the offense? Aj Brown sounding that alarm?
Speaker 1: None of his teammates know what we didn't hear from
Speaker 1: any of the Eagles, is man? Aj needs to shut up.
Speaker 1: We're fine. It sure felt like a lot of the
Speaker 1: teammates were like, man, I'm glad he's taking those bullets
Speaker 1: because there is something wrong.
Speaker 2: With him exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go three and out more than any team
Speaker 1: on a percentage basis in the NFL in the last decade.
Speaker 1: You have all this talent and it can't just be
Speaker 1: Kevin Petula. It can't be. And I understand Jalen was
Speaker 1: unbelievable in the Super Bowl. I understand Jalen has had
Speaker 1: some truly spectacular, huge games. There's no there's no denying there.
Speaker 1: But the comp I have used repeatedly I will continue
Speaker 1: to use, and it's not they are. It's not identical,
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of similarities. The comp for Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts and this era of Eagles football is Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and the Legion of Doom, the lead of Boom Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Great on the deep shot, good with his legs, good
Speaker 1: in the short stuff, shaky in the intermediate, great defense, winner,
Speaker 1: great running game, wins the Super Bowl, loses the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Jalen did in the reverse order, and for some
Speaker 1: reason or another, the team doesn't seem to fully vibe
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a bunny in the locker room. I
Speaker 2: feel like.
Speaker 1: My positivity rabbit. I thought that was a joke when
Speaker 1: I saw that someone one of our first things. First,
Speaker 1: one of the producers texted that, I think it was
Speaker 1: Dusty Moo's an Eagles fan.
Speaker 2: He thought he got stats. I thought what he thought
Speaker 2: he got sent tailed or something like it was a
Speaker 2: fake Twitter tells.
Speaker 1: Yes exactly. I was like annoyed by it when he
Speaker 1: sent it to me. I'm like, god, I was like, either.
Speaker 2: I checked this stuff, man, correct.
Speaker 1: I thought one of two things. I thought either Dusty
Speaker 1: got duped by the most obvious fake news ever, or
Speaker 1: he was sending a joke. And then I realized it
Speaker 1: was real.
Speaker 2: Came out. Yeah, man, and if it works, it works.
Speaker 2: It didn't work last night though.
Speaker 1: No, And now here's the Chargers side of this is interesting,
Speaker 1: and I never here's the this is so I'm about
Speaker 1: to do something very unfair and borderline unprofessional. I'm just like, no, now,
Speaker 1: but I own the show, so we don't we own
Speaker 1: the show?
Speaker 2: Demons brace myself.
Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna be. It's not what you think.
Speaker 1: I have a great justin Herbert take great ten out
Speaker 1: of ten.
Speaker 2: I honestly feel like I kind of know where you're
Speaker 2: going with it. But what I won't be guessed or anything.
Speaker 1: But no, because here's the deal. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a like world class hater these next few months.
Speaker 1: And this isn't hating on Justin Herbert. I know that
Speaker 1: I am going to be talking Justin Herbert with Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert's number one media apologist, Danny Parkins in about five
Speaker 1: and a half hours, and I don't want him to
Speaker 1: have any extra time to prepare for my argument. So
Speaker 1: I'm saving my Justin Herbert take. I'm telling you guys,
Speaker 1: So that is that I to our wonderful sponsors, to
Speaker 1: all our partners, I promise I'll make up for it,
Speaker 1: but I it is too important to me to try
Speaker 1: to really wamboozle Danny in a few hours that I
Speaker 1: don't want. I don't want. He already has an advantage
Speaker 1: of seeing the to the TV for the first two
Speaker 1: hours of First Things First, get an idea of where
Speaker 1: I'm at on stuff. But the too long, didn't read
Speaker 1: short version of it is it's very, very difficult to
Speaker 1: square the circle of Justin Herbert's biggest critics could not
Speaker 1: hate that game from him last night, and Justin Herbert's
Speaker 1: biggest supporters cannot love that game from him last night.
Speaker 1: That's the short version of it. But he's he has
Speaker 1: now put himself in position, as we talked about earlier
Speaker 1: for the Chargers, where all they have to do is
Speaker 1: not collapse, and he gets a chance at playoff redemption
Speaker 1: and he will be Oh this job. I just realized something.
Speaker 1: There's a decent possibility that the playoff game we get
Speaker 1: if the Chargers make it is Chargers Jags part two
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and part four of the regular of
Speaker 1: their whole careers. And Trevor's three and zero. Oh, that
Speaker 1: would be unbelievable. That would be unbelievable. That's Hobby.
Speaker 2: No, you go, you know, he's kind of he's hurt
Speaker 2: right now, like I just and then come that like
Speaker 2: the I don't know he's playing. He's playing the Texans
Speaker 2: and a couple weeks he's he's got some tough stuff ahead.
Speaker 1: But yeah, tough stufed cheap Chiefs up next. I thought
Speaker 1: he was gritty as hell yesterday with the running. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable the way he his statline was what
Speaker 1: it was, but.
Speaker 2: Always great, did what needed to be done.
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Speaker 2: So my Ravens are slipping further and further out of
Speaker 2: the picture with a divisional loss to the Steelers. After
Speaker 2: the loss to the Steelers, Lamar said that the frustration
Speaker 2: level was through the roof. He still thinks that we
Speaker 2: can we can maybe slip in there if we went
Speaker 2: out with these last four games. I am, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think we can. I don't know how the math and
Speaker 2: stuff works, but I know that we're not completely out
Speaker 2: of it. And let's win these four games and see
Speaker 2: what can happen out of there. And I am gonna
Speaker 2: blame the refs. I am the type of person that
Speaker 2: was what are you doing? Especially Tye say likely somebody
Speaker 2: that's had some questionable history, I guess over the last
Speaker 2: year and a half, Like, why do that dude? Where's
Speaker 2: he going to go? What are you talking about? A
Speaker 2: football move? What do I need to make a football
Speaker 2: move for him? Already in the end zone, there's nowhere
Speaker 2: else to go, but.
Speaker 1: No listen, So here's the thing on that specific call.
Speaker 1: And you know, I hate replay, hate replaying sports. It's
Speaker 1: made sports worse. They promised us with NFL intone replay
Speaker 1: that the call in the field would have precedent and
Speaker 1: it would only be overturned if it was clear and obvious.
Speaker 1: The NFL, by the way, then added this year like, hey,
Speaker 1: even better expedited replay and that's just going to fix
Speaker 1: obvious errors in the Chiefs Texans game X. But the
Speaker 1: ref the call in the field was correct about a spot.
Speaker 1: Expedited replay came in and was like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he got the first down. And then Andy was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me, challenged, and then the refts
Speaker 1: were like our bad expedited replay was wrong. So the
Speaker 1: replay creep has gotten so massive to where it was
Speaker 1: like replay only will be for the Vinny Testaverdi. We
Speaker 1: thought his helmet was the football. We gave him a
Speaker 1: touchdown mistakes, and now it's like we're just gonna get
Speaker 1: buzzed down and base calls off vibes. So I hate,
Speaker 1: I hate it. My opinion on the likely thing is
Speaker 1: whatever the call on the field was should have stood.
Speaker 1: So I do think it was close, and had they
Speaker 1: called it incomplete, I would have argued it should have
Speaker 1: stayed incomplete, right, But for them to call that a
Speaker 1: touchdown and then overturn it, I think it's incorrect. So
Speaker 1: I agree with you that you guys got screwed on
Speaker 1: that call. Yeah, but that's not the problem for Baltimore.
Speaker 1: No problem for Baltimore is they're not good and Lamar
Speaker 1: is playing terribly. And something lost in the weeds of
Speaker 1: this past weekend was that two minute drill Lamar attempted
Speaker 1: to run on Sunday was an abomination. They had the
Speaker 1: ball with a minute fifty six and two timeout and
Speaker 1: a timeout pardon me, at the twenty six yard line
Speaker 1: and they had gone eight yards and there was forty
Speaker 1: five seconds left and they had used their timeout. They
Speaker 1: got the ball with two minutes and a timeout and
Speaker 1: they ran out of time.
Speaker 2: I think we ended up. It was just it was
Speaker 2: like a we weren't gonna be able to staff the
Speaker 2: ball in time or something like that. I feel like
Speaker 2: we're a far off line and how to use the timeout.
Speaker 2: Are you just saying like we shouldn't have been there
Speaker 2: to Yeah, No, what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying is it's lamar job to understand. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't start this drive on the twenty six with a
Speaker 1: minute fifty six left and one timeout, and then three
Speaker 1: minutes of real time later be on the thirty four
Speaker 1: with forty five seconds left to no timeouts. Something disastrous
Speaker 1: has happened. Yeah, listen, Man, Lamar has been bad since
Speaker 1: he came back from the injury, and Harbaugh doesn't know
Speaker 1: what buttons to push. And even if they sneak into
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they are getting clocked in round one. I
Speaker 1: have no faith in that team at all, none. Like
Speaker 1: the only reason they they have a better path to
Speaker 1: the playoffs than Kansas City. But the reason that I
Speaker 1: will hold off the tiniest bit of hope is because
Speaker 1: Kansas City has been such a dominant playoff team. Baltimore's
Speaker 1: been the opposite. Now, maybe you could a argue, oh,
Speaker 1: this year, if they make it, it's gonna be the inverse.
Speaker 1: Bad in the regular season, awesome in the playoffs. At least.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have two games this year, the Ravens game
Speaker 1: and the Lions games. Like, Man, we were awesome on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball for sixty minutes. The Ravens
Speaker 1: have zero games this year. We're like, man, we feel
Speaker 1: great about how both sides of the ball played. The
Speaker 1: closest they came to it was their win against the
Speaker 1: Bears and Lamar didn't play. So I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on there. All right, let's talk Shador.
Speaker 2: Brown's head coach has announced that Shador is going to
Speaker 2: be the starter through the end of the season. Kind
Speaker 2: Of weird that he's making him the start at the
Speaker 2: end of the season because you know, they went for
Speaker 2: that two point conversion at the end of the game
Speaker 2: and Shador was out of the game. What's going on there?
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought Shador played really well. I was impressed,
Speaker 1: had some really nice moments. One awful throw, But that's
Speaker 1: so what is a rookie And that's the tie of
Speaker 1: performance that earns you the job the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: And now we'll see how he is over the next month,
Speaker 1: where to see if he maybe can prove everyone involved
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft process from a team perspective wrong.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing opportunity and I don't listen. I said
Speaker 1: this to Danny on Sunday, and this is the best
Speaker 1: way to explain it, because I do think Shador is
Speaker 1: a good kid, and I do think he's charming, and
Speaker 1: I do think he's well intentioned. Uh the this is
Speaker 1: the best. He just strikes me as like some of
Speaker 1: the things that people dislike about his personality, not the play,
Speaker 1: the personality. I just feel like, oh, I know a
Speaker 1: lot of I've known a lot of people like that.
Speaker 1: It's just like a really rich kid that doesn't quite
Speaker 1: get you know, how doesn't it how the way he
Speaker 1: acts kind of comes across to certain people. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're a bad person, and it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they're like they are ill like they that.
Speaker 2: Do think that some of the stuff that like I'm
Speaker 2: not telling the guy to change or suggesting that he
Speaker 2: should change, but I do think the stuff that people
Speaker 2: have problems with or like the bigger things, it's like
Speaker 2: a very easy thing to turn off for like a
Speaker 2: second or like whatever little minute it might be when
Speaker 2: you're talking.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I do too, and I and I just
Speaker 1: think it is I just think there.
Speaker 2: Are because he's also done it, Like I feel like
Speaker 2: I've seen him do that as well.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but what comes naturally to is what comes
Speaker 1: Actually the kid's a super famous, rich kid with a
Speaker 1: super famous you know dad, and like it just again,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make you a bad person at all. Like
Speaker 1: I just think I think sometimes that I see a
Speaker 1: lot of character traits where I'm like, oh, I knew
Speaker 1: that kid, Like I a kid like that went to
Speaker 1: my school. Basically yeah, yeah, it's a it's a nice
Speaker 1: kid that doesn't that sometimes just says things that people
Speaker 1: around him are like does he even know? Like does
Speaker 1: he get how that sounds? But they don't. That's fine,
Speaker 1: So that part doesn't really matter. It just is what
Speaker 1: it is, liketball, what his play and he and he
Speaker 1: now was gonna have the opportunity to prove that he
Speaker 1: can do it on the field. And I thought he
Speaker 1: was really good on Sunday. Here's the thing on the
Speaker 1: two point conversion call, that was quite simply one of
Speaker 1: the dumbest coaching decisions I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: And it was dumb in every way something can be dumb.
Speaker 1: It was dumb in that it was it looked like
Speaker 1: you had never practiced it. So if the argument is no,
Speaker 1: we've practiced a ton and we were great at it,
Speaker 1: well then there's something wrong with your execution game day.
Speaker 1: So that's first thing. Second thing was it doesn't need
Speaker 1: you don't It doesn't have to be that complicated trying
Speaker 1: to get two yards you have Judkins would look like
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be like a reverse pass. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. By doing that, that was the
Speaker 1: only way you add to the noise surrounding the dumb
Speaker 1: conspiracies with Shador, and you can say, oh, the football
Speaker 1: coach doesn't think about that, doesn't care about that, They
Speaker 1: don't worry about that bullshit. One of the big reasons
Speaker 1: Shador went in the draft as late as he did
Speaker 1: was because teams didn't want all the noise that ca
Speaker 1: came along with drafting him. And so even if you
Speaker 1: are just totally convinced, oh, calling a regular run play,
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying sure has to throw.
Speaker 2: The ball quarterback play. He should have a quarterback and
Speaker 2: a running back on the on the field to say
Speaker 2: it could be either way a pass or run.
Speaker 1: And even and even if you're like, nope, we have
Speaker 1: we have seen the future, and we have a forty
Speaker 1: eight percent chance of getting this by calling a traditional play,
Speaker 1: but a fifty eight percent chance of getting this by
Speaker 1: running this play. It's still not worth it because the
Speaker 1: knock on effect of the they were finally going to
Speaker 1: have a week with minimal outside noise should or played.
Speaker 1: He played well, you named him the starter. The folks
Speaker 1: that are like, they're setting him up to fail, they
Speaker 1: don't like him, you know, the all of it we're
Speaker 1: gonna they had, there was nothing to say. And then
Speaker 1: after leading a fourteen point come back in the final
Speaker 1: two minutes, you call the single wars two point conversion
Speaker 1: anyone's called in the NFL all year. And so Handlan
Speaker 1: Draser is don't attribute to malice what can be attributed
Speaker 1: to stupidity, like don't don't assume someone was out to
Speaker 1: get you or there is a grand conspiracy when it
Speaker 1: could as easily be explained as that was just really dumb.
Speaker 1: And I'm here to tell you that was I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a conspiracy. And this is the biggest indictment
Speaker 1: on Stefanski for some of the things he's done, some
Speaker 1: of the decisions Kevin Stefanski has made in his handling
Speaker 1: of the Browns offense that quarterback room and chador are
Speaker 1: so illogical. People think that there must be a conspiracy
Speaker 1: at hand because he can't be that dumb. It's just
Speaker 1: just so so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I mean, have you ever noticed go ahead to the
Speaker 2: mind keep cutting it right for that read? I mean,
Speaker 2: it sure seems like there's some sabotaging going on around there.
Speaker 2: Seems like there's a little a little bit of somebody
Speaker 2: not liking Shaduur. That's what it seems like to me,
Speaker 2: because how do you know that? It makes no call,
Speaker 2: made no sense at all.
Speaker 1: It seemed like that to a lot of people. And
Speaker 1: I'm just and I'm here to tell you. I think
Speaker 1: the simpler explanation is, despite his Coach of the Year awards,
Speaker 1: the guy the Cleveland Browns keep trotting out there every
Speaker 1: year to be their head coach might not always make
Speaker 1: the best decisions. I don't think it necessarily has to
Speaker 1: be deeper than that, But listen, that's my take. You
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Speaker 1: these other games.
Speaker 2: Lines to feed the Cowboys forty four to thirty.
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. Great win for the Lions. Cowboys not
Speaker 1: dead yet, Cowboy thanks the Eagles. Listen. It's very simple.
Speaker 1: Final four games. Cowboys have to win two more games
Speaker 1: than Philly. That's it. No tie breakers, no nothing, because
Speaker 1: Dallas has a tie. So it's very very simple. If
Speaker 1: Philly goes two and two, Dallas has to go four
Speaker 1: and zero. If Philly goes three and one, Dallas is dead.
Speaker 1: If Philly goes one and three, Dallas has to go
Speaker 1: three and one. Are better. That's how they get in next.
Speaker 2: Packers defeat the Bears twenty eight, twenty one.
Speaker 1: I mean, this game probably deserved more time than we're
Speaker 1: giving it. This was a great game. Jordan Love played awesome.
Speaker 1: Caleb had a miserable first half, a great second half
Speaker 1: and then blew it at the end. I think Caleb
Speaker 1: is not quite there yet, but he still he shows
Speaker 1: you these flashes of brilliance. A huge spot for the Bears.
Speaker 1: In two weeks they get a split with Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Then you make up for this game. You lose to
Speaker 1: Green Bay in two weeks. You can miss the playoffs
Speaker 1: out right.
Speaker 2: Next, Saints defeat the Bucks twenty four to twenty disaster.
Speaker 1: My Bucks are on shaky ground and Baker's been shaky
Speaker 1: for a month. I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: It's not good. I don't like any bit of it.
Speaker 1: It cost me money. Tyler shuck running in the I
Speaker 1: did not enjoy that football game.
Speaker 2: Next, Seahawks defeat the Falcons thirty seven to nine.
Speaker 1: You call this, yeah, Seahawks. Even's unbelievable, and poor Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins had no shot and Sam Darnold at one o'clock
Speaker 1: with nobody watching, look out.
Speaker 2: Next Yo, Shaggs defeat the Colts thirty six nineteen.
Speaker 1: All right. Obviously the news here is Daniel Jones and
Speaker 1: the Achilles, and you feel sick for him. It also
Speaker 1: the Colts. The last month for the Colts franchise, altering
Speaker 1: turn of events. Yeah, trading two first round picks for
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, seeing him go down with the calf strain,
Speaker 1: seeing your team fall apart, and then seeing Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: blows achilles. It's unspeakable how awful this was for them.
Speaker 1: The Jags, on the other hand, are legit really good
Speaker 1: football team. Not quite though, as good as this. Next
Speaker 1: team next to.
Speaker 2: Monsey, Rams defeat the Cardinals forty five to seventeen.
Speaker 1: The Rams are juggernaut right now, just I mean, just
Speaker 1: blowing people out with these.
Speaker 2: Next, Broncos defeat the Raiders twenty four to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Yet, listen, the Broncos, it wasn't as close as this.
Speaker 1: The story on this game is the craziest backdoor cover
Speaker 1: and overhit in the NFL this season. The Broncos beat
Speaker 1: you a bunch of different ways. Man, this was a
Speaker 1: special team's touchdown. I gotta give him credit.
Speaker 2: Next, Vikings to defeat the Commanders thirty one. Oh, I
Speaker 2: didn't see that one coming.
Speaker 1: I got this one dead wrong. I know this will
Speaker 1: really surprise people, but Jayden Daniels got dinged up again.
Speaker 1: Uh and really really brutal season all the way around
Speaker 1: for Commanders.
Speaker 2: Fans.
Speaker 1: I feel badly for him.
Speaker 2: Last one probably shouldn't have been playing. Dolphins defeat the
Speaker 2: Jets thirty four to ten. Spicy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the Dolphins are in a weird spot because
Speaker 1: they have the same record as the Chiefs. They're six
Speaker 1: and seven. But for reasons I don't totally understand, even
Speaker 1: if they went out, they don't make the playoffs in
Speaker 1: any scenario like they have that old athletic. I think
Speaker 1: they just lose all tie breakers to everyone, and so
Speaker 1: the athletic playoff predictor if they went out, gives them
Speaker 1: a two percent chance if they went out, And so
Speaker 1: they're in obviously in really bad bad shape.
Speaker 2: But McDaniel's gone a job next year job yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they say my containers job all right? Before
Speaker 1: we go, I can't wait for this. Guys, are you
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Speaker 1: US's group. It'll probably be Turkey A, but we don't
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Speaker 1: gonna do a ton of discussion of this tournament on
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Speaker 1: other one I liked a lot as not necessarily a
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Speaker 1: All right, demons, let's save the the I want to
Speaker 1: save the comments and questions for Thursday show. But I
Speaker 1: will address this one real quick because I saw it.
Speaker 1: JF asks. Nick. Didn't you say at one point great
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