WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Cover Two 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:02.719 The following. 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.760 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:06.560 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:09.480 Cowboys. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.000 This is Mick. 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:17.520 Shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:22.120 Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:26.880 and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:27.840 And here we go. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.520 It is a back to work Wednesday here at the 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.040 Star in Frisco. And for some of us we are well, 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.240 we didn't go away. We are back to work. Everson 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:41.280 Walls not back to work just yet. He'll be back 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.160 on Thursday. But this is Mick Shots inside the SWBC 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.480 podcast studio. We've already had a Mike McCarthy press conference today. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.400 We have football equipment on a football field and we 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.800 will have football players out there as well, and hopefully 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.560 they have the ivs ready today. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.760 It's pretty warm, it is, and it's going to be warm. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.839 It's supposed to be ninety one today. It's October twenty third, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.720 ninety one. It's already eighty five. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.959 By the way. It's toasty out there, and it just 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.400 seems like the ninety one degree you know, if it 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:23.200 was July twentieth ninety one degrees. Welcome it exactly. IVS 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.080 would not be required. There's something about ninety one degrees 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.280 on October twenty third that makes it more difficult to 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:31.039 stand the heat. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.360 As you can tell, they haven't taken down the tent 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.560 out there that they put that's the air conditioned tent 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.920 with has a lot of ice in it just in case. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.080 So yeah, they been watching the weather and said, no, 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.960 we got to have that maybe till November before we 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:49.680 take it down. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:54.760 And tomorrow's supposed to be similar heat. So I'm assuming 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.720 coach McCarthy he always wants to be outside as much 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.400 as possible. Does he like this heat? 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.920 It shouldn't be hot in San Francisco. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.680 Shope should not be and. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:13.359 He probably doesn't like all the eyeballs that will be 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:19.720 on practice also, by the way, so we'll see what happens. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.119 All the eyeballs that will be Oh oh, I got 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.720 it has nothing to do with the heat, but it 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.080 has to do with twelve story buildings or however, all. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.200 These buildings are exactly I think. I think at times, 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.040 I think even Jason went inside just to cautionary. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.160 But they're prepared to be outside today. Yeah, so you 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:43.520 have a prediction they if they go inside tomorrow. It 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.440 will not be because of the heat. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.400 But they'll say it'll be because of the Yeah, there 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:48.800 you go absolutely all right. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.919 What did you gather from Mike McCarthy's press conference today? 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.080 Get us up to speed and what we need to know. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:03:00.720 Well, let's start with his brief injury report. He said 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.280 Michael Parsons would be with the rehab group at least 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:10.040 start with the rehab group, so we'll see where that goes. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:16.880 He didn't sound really hopeful on Monday that he would 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.640 be back ready to play. He said it was still 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:24.160 up in the air that he needed to see test 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.040 his acceleration. So I think they're going to be cautious 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.799 there and that may be one that you just go, Okay, 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.080 let's see what happens as we go forward and try 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:38.240 to get him to the game. Doron Bland, who was 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:45.040 close to playing against Detroit until his foot grew sore 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.080 from the activity of practice the previous two days, said 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.840 he's going to start off participating in practice on a 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.640 limited basis, so they're going to try to ease him 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:02.120 back in Kaylin Carson and still with the rehab group 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:06.880 with that shoulder, and you know that shoulder sounded like, well, Okay, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.880 you know, he'll be back in a week or so, 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.640 and now it's almost close to a month if he 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.560 doesn't get back for this game, so we'll see what 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:20.919 goes there. And then I thought the significant one, not 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:25.680 that the others aren't. Eric Kendricks said he would be limited, 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:31.200 so I assume that meant limited in practice here he's 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.760 been running, so we'll see where that one goes. That 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.400 would be very good if they could get him back 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.000 on the field. Although Dmoon Clark didn't play all that bad. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.440 I just think that with Kendricks out there, you have, 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.800 you have your director out there, and I think that 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.679 speaks volumes for what he could. 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.839 Add, especially against Kyle Shanahan's offense. 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:01.400 Right, yeah, exactly. So that's where they were with guys 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:08.280 that can get back. I hear that not Osa Marshawn 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:15.360 Kneelan is looking good in his rehab, So maybe when 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:19.280 his four weeks or four games are up, you know, 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.720 you might be able to get him back on the field. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:26.120 Would certainly help the defensive end group if he comes 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:31.679 back and he's you know, healthy enough to get going. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.719 Said an interesting thing when he was talking about the. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.080 Ring and By the way, Kneeland has a knee injury. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.120 Knee injury, right, and he had I think he had 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.039 its scope too. It sounded like so he's off crutches 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.680 and walking around and sounds like he's doing better than 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:59.320 maybe expected. Uh. He talked about the running game and uh, 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.640 you know, the question was something reference to what Jerry 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:08.200 said about run concepts and run plays that were bad. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.560 And he said, I don't think we have bad concepts 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.800 or bad plays. I'll just leave it as that. But 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:21.160 he went on to say he pointed out the Detroit 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.279 game and he said, the first run of the game, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:29.600 he said, we had the wrong declaration. So I'm assuming 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:33.520 that meant the blocking scheme. And I went back and 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.400 looked at it, and you know, you don't know what 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:42.359 everybody's supposed to do. But the play I saw it 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.640 was a run to rico'dondell and he was going right 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.960 and it was a one yard game and the linebacker 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:59.039 was able to make the play. And Angeloni is that 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:04.960 the angel Azeloni? Yeah, Angeloni was a neighbor of ours 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:11.280 time ago. Uh. Anyway, it looked like Cooper Bebee Uh 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.040 spent too much time doubling the defensive tackle and he 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.920 didn't get to the linebacker in time, and the linebacker 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.480 was able to scrape off and make the play. So 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.480 there's a lot of things in the running game that 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.720 I think people don't recognize that have to take place 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.000 to make the run work, and it's not all on 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.680 the running back. So I thought that was interesting one. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.520 I went back and looked at, uh looked at that one. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.520 The other thing that I think they're going to change 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.600 up more, and he he alluded to it on Monday 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.200 that they were going to change some of the individual 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.480 individual drills that they had been doing and doing more 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.640 group drills. So it sounds like they're going to have 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:02.960 more competitive periods in the practices the next two days 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.480 than they normally have. And when I say competitive periods, 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.280 I mean the first defense against the first offense, not 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.200 against the scout team. So that's one of those things 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.800 that I think that they're going to try to change 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:21.240 up and get more as competitive as you're allowed to 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.480 be in practice, knowing that they need to deal with 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:29.680 some of those concepts better than just going against the 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.959 scout team when you're just basically got brother lawing going 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:39.080 on in those plays because you're just practicing plays, you're 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:40.400 not really competing. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.360 I'm going back watching. I know, I'm going back watching 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.160 the first play of the game, and they had Angeloni 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:54.000 and Campbell, two inside linebackers, and I assume when they're 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.400 making the declarations declaring who the middle linebacker is, he 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:02.480 is at thirty four, is at forty six, and watching 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.640 it it and you know, because you've gone back and 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:10.120 looked at it, Babe did not go get the middle linebacker. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.199 He had a nose tackle that was shaded on him. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.520 There started as a double and Angeloni was free to 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.240 run to make the tackle right right. 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.000 So I'm thinking the blocking might have been needed to 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.840 go more to the right and not worry about that 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.560 defensive tackle because he wasn't going to be in the 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:32.600 play where the play was going. And then Angeloni ends 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.360 up making the tackle and there was no hole there. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.360 If the linebacker wasn't there, they could have been a hole. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.400 But it was a one yard game. You know, when 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.200 I went back, and this is one thing that we 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.000 forget is if you look at that first drive of 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.840 the game, in its total that ended up in a 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.520 field goal, they went fifty two yards in six plays, 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.960 so they were moving right down the field, and then 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.240 when they bogged down at first and ten at the eighteen, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.280 when they tried the quick short pass to CD, it 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:12.319 was two yards. Dak tried to throw it into the 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.880 end zone. It was incomplete to CD, and then on 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:21.280 third down they threw it was the whole didn't matter 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.520 what the play was. Zach Martin got called for holding 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:29.800 and so it was declined because it was an incomplete pass. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.120 And now you're kicking a field goal. So they got 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:36.000 to the eighteen and then gained two yards. That just 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:43.520 can't happen. And that's definitely kind of what happened. And 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:51.960 even on the second play, the dB just grabbed Lamb's 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.319 hands and didn't, you know, let him make a move 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:00.520 to be able to pick up the pick up the pass. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:05.880 So yeah, and so then you know, things snowball because 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.880 then you give up a touchdown. And I looked at 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.120 the touchdown and they just got blown off the line 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:17.000 on that sixteen yard run. And Donovan Wilson was sort 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.880 of late coming up, but he was playing single safety 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.360 high and he didn't quite get there. And Leo file 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.800 was they were in three linebackers and he was the 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.959 linebacker to the left and I don't know if they 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.640 expected him to cut across like that and make that 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:38.160 tackle because he was unblocked. But they're just little things 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:42.840 like that. You got to get right. You cannot you know, 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.560 you cannot make those mistakes. So that's one of the 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.040 things I think they're going to be working on. And 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.840 when we mentioned the declarations that the offensive line has 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.280 to adjust when you see the defense, you know how 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.199 the defense at last minute'll shift over one way or another. Well, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.040 now that changes your boxing scheme. You don't have time 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.280 to call it, but you've got to instinctively know where 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:06.760 you're going. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.960 And that's where the lack of experience or lack of 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.640 experience alongside each other place a factor. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.319 Yeah, exactly, you know, and in that game, you're you're 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.520 you know, left guards playing left tackle. You got to 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.560 basically a second year free agent playing left guard and 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.400 a rookie playing center. Uh that that's a lot of 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.439 movement that you got to get straight. He also thought 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.520 that Geiton wouldn't be ready. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.199 That was where I was going, That was where I 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.000 was doing next. I was about to say. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.080 He should be ready to jump into Since. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:45.400 We've gotten updates on these other injured players who have 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:52.000 missed games, and in fact, even Jerry said yesterday probably 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.599 be a game time decision on Sunday whether Parsons and 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.920 Bland will be able to go. And I don't remember 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.840 if he included Kendricks in that or not, but because 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.880 you have to look at how they recover from the 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:09.040 previous day's work. But I think you buried the lead 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.679 because Tyler Geiton being back at practice. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.640 Well it got buried in my list of questions here 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.880 because it finally got asked, right. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:22.960 But specifically this offensive line and the biggest issue I 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.679 think that this team is having right now is what's 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.400 going on up front on the offensive line, and they've 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.080 got to get their five guys out there, and that 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.560 means getting Tyler. If Tyler Geiton is going to be 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.559 your first round draft pick playing, he needs to be playing, 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.719 not just on Sunday, but he needs to be out 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:43.560 there on Wednesday. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.000 And he said about his health, he said he'll be 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:53.240 ready to go full participation, meaning for today, so you know, 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.840 and he was asked about Geiton and where he's at, 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.880 and he goes he needs to take a huge step 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:03.840 in his comfort, He needs to rely on his talent 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.920 and understand that you can do this, he said, you know, 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.560 and he doesn't want him. I think the quote was 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.840 don't want him to spend a whole lot of time 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.520 in the valley, meaning all. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.560 Right, you're going to get beat on plays. That's the valley, right, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.480 but don't spend time there. It's like a cornerback. You 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.440 got to get the last play and get ready for 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:27.720 the next week, like a. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.720 Golfer, like Tony Romo taught us about golf and football, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.280 that you got to let the last shot go and 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.840 concentrate on getting out of the rough on the next shot. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.320 Don't be belaboring the mistake. And I think that's probably 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.880 a thing a young guy will do, is just sit 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.120 there and beat himself up, knowing that he made a 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.720 mistake or got beat. 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And so they they're trying to make 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.480 sure that they haven't missed anybody through the years last century. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.119 So and they've done it by even expanding the committee 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.600 to and so they started with how many one and eighty, 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:35.760 one hundred and eighty something like that. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.040 And then they reduced it to sixty. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:43.200 Yep, And so yesterday they announced it's down to thirty one. 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:47.840 Are they calling it semifinalist or or maybe the semifinalist 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.320 or the next round. Yeah, in a couple of weeks, 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.880 two or three weeks, they'll get it down to ten. 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.600 Ten or twelve, Okay, then they get it to three. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.639 Okay, But two former Cowboys are in the list of 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.480 thirty one. One is Everson Walls and the other Harvey Martin. 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.399 And it's about and there's going to be three that 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.919 will be given to the committee, right which take the 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.840 final rubber stamp YEP, which is typically a rubber stamp. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.120 So they're kind of listening to this committee now. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.119 So it started with one hundred and eighty six or 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.080 something like that, and they're going to whittle it down 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:30.399 to three to give to the final committee at the 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:31.359 Hall of Fame voting. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:35.720 And I'm sure Everson, after having gone through all this, 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.439 is sitting there going, yeah, okay, well just call me. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:45.560 I think he's passed getting emotionally invested in it, just 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:50.720 from the disappointment that I think he's felt over the years. 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:57.159 We'll let him speak about that. But look, here's the 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.840 deal on this Pro Football Hall of Fame. Too many 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:10.520 decisions are made on statistics and analytics, not stories. And 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:17.639 I think to me, the responsibility of the voters is 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:22.240 to preserve the stories of the NFL, and you do 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:27.880 that by putting players like Everson Walls into the Pro 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.200 Football Hall of Fame. It's not all about how many 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.680 Super Bowls you won or didn't win. It's not all 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.480 about how many interceptions you had or different didn't had. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:43.040 It's about the story of a guy that had eleven 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:48.640 interceptions in his rookie year of nineteen eighty one and 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:53.680 forty three years later, let that sink in. Forty three 0:20:54.000 --> 0:21:00.280 years later, nobody has ever had more than eleven interceptions 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.240 in a single season. As a matter of fact, Trayvon 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.840 Diggs a couple of years ago is the only one 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:11.919 to have had eleven and match it. So things like 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:16.520 that need to pre preserved. On how unique his accomplishment 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:21.360 has been. And the fact that he led the NFL 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.000 in interceptions three times, which. 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.919 One only tied by Ed reed Is. It's tied for 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:32.919 the most times to lead in interceptions ed Reid, and. 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:36.199 One of those was during the strike season when he 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:40.720 ended up with in nine games, he had seven interceptions 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.640 and there's no telling how many he would have finished 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:46.160 in that year too. 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.240 But even if you just do the stats on it, 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.199 he's got fifty seven conceptions in his career, I know, 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.679 which is like almost doubling the field. 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.560 And the fact that, by the way, he did win 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.520 a Super Bowl playing for the Giants. And then the 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:05.960 other thing is is part of Everson's story And look, 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:09.840 I know he's on our show, but he donated a 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:15.439 kidney to a former teammate. Who does that? And I 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:19.679 think that's part of the story that the NFL, the 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.880 Pro Football Hall of Fame has to capture. When they 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.679 put the little bios in the highlights of a guy's career, 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.600 that's part of his life and and I think it 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:34.120 gets ignored. And there's too many people that are voting 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:38.520 that no idea or never seen Everson play, And I 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:42.520 think it's just a it's just a crime that he 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.760 can't get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.760 They should go ask Bill Belichick, right Christmas, Belichick game 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.800 up to Gilbrandt several years ago at the Hall of 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:57.239 Fame after Hall of Fame ceremony and said, we need 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.560 to get Everson in into the Hall of Fame. And 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:04.480 of course he played for Belichick, not only with the Giants, 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.520 but also with the Cleveland Browns and back in what 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.760 I think was ever probably ever since second to last 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:12.920 season when he was I think it was with Cleveland, 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:18.240 maybe it was Giants. He was actually sort of the 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:22.520 quarterback on the field. He was, he was the play 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.800 caller basically on the field. If the green dot back 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.840 in those days, Everson would have been the one wearing 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:29.880 the green dot when he converted over to safety. 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:34.640 And if you just look at his story to the NFL. 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:39.160 Out of high school, he decides to go to Grambling, right, 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:43.080 I don't know if he got a scholarship. He'll tell 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.880 you the reason he went there because what turned out 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:50.280 to be his future wife, His girlfriend was going to Grambling, 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.520 and so he decided, Okay, I'm going to Grambling and 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.840 he plays Think about the guys he's played for, Eddie Robinson, 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:03.000 Tom Landry, Bill Parson, Cells and Belichick in his career, 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:09.000 Jimmy and Jimmy for one year. That's pretty good, right, 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:16.440 And so uh yeah, you know, and and I think 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.560 Jimmy has come to grips with what took place and 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:24.520 how uh you know, and finally sort of apologized to 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:28.840 him for his reaction to that play or to the 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.200 play ragizing right. 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.119 So anyway, by the way, the defensive backs that are 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.760 in this final thirty one pretty good back defensive backfield, 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:44.760 which includes Lester Hayes, Albert Lewis, Eddie Medder and Everson Walls. 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.080 That is a pretty good and in fact, Albert Lewis 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:50.200 went to Grambling and so and he was a couple 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.440 of years behind Everson, I believe we'll talk more about 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:58.160 it tomorrow with Everson and then Harvey Martin's the other one. Yeah, 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.800 that is well deserved and and. 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:08.040