1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This is media Match, 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, drumping wisdom and offering sizzling 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Now your host knew. 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: He scrugs, all right, let's ride maybe coming to you 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: from the Star in Frisco, the SWBC podcast studios. 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: Hi, everybody, I am new, he Scrugslaw with Nick Harris 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: is a four wur star Telegraph and the Hall of Famer. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: He is Ed Werder. 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: It was I don't know, maybe I think maybe it 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: was five a little bit five six o'clock in the morning. 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: I was, I was doing some early morning reading. I'm like, 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: well alert, I sluck till eight. I'm like, what a 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: morning to do that? 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: Right? 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: Yes? 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: And I got a text from somebody who runs a 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: look radio station who wanted to know who do you recommend? 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: We talked to from the Steelers, and I was like, 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: oh my god, they must assigned Aaron Rodgers. 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: Okayed, No, they made a trade for Carl Pickens. The 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: Cowboys will send Carl Pickens, Carl who once played here. 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: Hence your confusion, Yes. 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: Who once played her? Why do people call me? But 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: but they know I got a call? I mean they 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: know I got a show at this time. I hate 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: people do that and turn that all. 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 5: Look at this, that's crazy. 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: Suppose I just posted on Twitter that you guys are 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: on this show, so now people want to know how 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: they can find it. 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: Just so you know, Nick, that person consistently will call 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: me at six fifteen. We're not doing TV. 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: I've only gotten three phone calls from this person, and 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 5: one was at midnight, the other one just now, and 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 5: another one at another inopportune times. A he's got an 38 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 5: ability there. 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: Okay, And anybody trying to get ahold of you over there? 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: Not right at the moment. No, My sources are all 41 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: talking to you guys. 42 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: Apparently, so George Pickett's coming to the Cowboys. Cow going 43 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: to send a third round pick in twenty twenty six 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: and a twenty twenty seven fifth round pick to the Steelers, 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 3: Steelers sending back a sixth round pick. Here, I'll start 46 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: with you ed your thoughts on this trade. 47 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Not shocking in that we knew that the biggest hole 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: on the roster was for a number two receiver Op 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: opposite Ceedee Lamb, who if you look at the numbers, 50 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: the biggest disparity in all of football in the NFL 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: in terms of receiving yards is that between Cede Lamb 52 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: and the Cowboys' next best receiver, Jake Ferguson. It's like 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: the biggest golf in the NFL. Everybody else has their 54 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: top two receivers are a wake closer in terms of 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: productivity than that. The thing that's interesting to me is 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: you got a first time head coach in Brian Schottenheimer, 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: a very experienced coach overall in general, but now he's 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: while he gets a player that they they're investing in 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: him in a way they didn't Mike McCarthy. He also 60 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: now has to manage a player who can be difficult 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: even within a game, let alone during the course of 62 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 2: a season or in the locker room during the week, 63 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: like he may not be eligible at the end of 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: the game or at some point during the game. He's 65 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: I think he's the second most penalized receiver in the 66 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: NFL the last three years. But he's a dynamic player, 67 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: a big time playmaker. I mean, I asked somebody here 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: why they did it, said they found a player that 69 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 2: makes the more dynamic causes defense problems. Called him a big, 70 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: talented wide receiver who can win one on one, rare 71 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: body control, excellent ball skills, competitive as hell, and loves football. 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 5: From a football standpoint, it makes a lot of sense. 73 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you look at what George Pickens can do 74 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: as an outside receiver, the type of routes he's had 75 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 5: most success with, and how that lines up with his 76 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: now quarterback in Dak Prescott. From a football perspective, there's 77 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 5: there's it's hard to find anything that is a negative here. 78 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: It's off the field. That's where the risk comes into play, 79 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: and it's it's, uh, you're you're assuming all of this headaches' 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: tuly on in Pittsburgh, there's some Yeah, there's on the 81 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 5: field too. 82 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 83 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Off the field translates onto the field too. And 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 5: you wonder how that's going to work in a culture 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 5: here that Brian Schottenheimer's been trying to build over the 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: last couple of months. It's like, hey, culture first, culture first, 87 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: that will help translate the wins. It's like you potentially 88 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 5: just throw a really bad apple into that talking to 89 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: some people in Pittsburgh and then talking to a player 90 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 5: for the Steelers this morning, trying to get some more 91 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 5: context on George Pickens. This is a guy that is viewed, 92 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 5: as it was told to me, that he's kind of 93 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 5: like the bad kid in class, where the teachers hate him, 94 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 5: but all the kids love him, and he's respected in 95 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 5: the locker room. He has a lot of friends that 96 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 5: are teammates of his from the Steelers' days. But it 97 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: was the run ins with the coaches. It was the 98 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 5: headbutting with the coaches in front office, and they felt 99 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 5: like they were heading tours a crossroads this offseason where 100 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: they either had to pay him or trade him, and 101 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 5: so they went ahead and got ahead of that and 102 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: got compensation for it. Before you know, other teams started 103 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 5: to realize that they were pinned up against the wall 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 5: with him. 105 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: And Mike Tomlin's a pretty highly regarded coach who seems 106 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: to get along extremely well with most players. So you 107 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: have to question whether this immature behavior or unprofessional conduct 108 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: is something that can be coached out of him in 109 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: a situation that he faces now, which is now he's 110 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: got to prove he's a thirty million dollar receiver here. 111 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's another fascinating aspect of it is you 112 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 5: bring him in, he's on an expiring contract. Do you 113 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 5: get the deal done now or do you take the 114 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 5: risk of the one year rental and potentially he's worth 115 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: thirty million dollars next year ed and then your pockets 116 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 5: are getting a little bit even more than knowing that 117 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 5: Tyler Smith is on the horizon, Deron Bland, Jake Ferguson, 118 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 5: if you want to keep these guys around. George Pickens 119 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: now factors into that in a very big way. 120 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: My first thought was, okay, a third round pick, Those 121 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: are valuable Day two pick. Was it too much or 122 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: was it just right? 123 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 6: Nick? 124 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 5: Time will tell from a football perspective. I think it's 125 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 5: just right. But if the thing's off the field, the 126 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: character concerns really start to manifest here, then that's going 127 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: to look back and you're not gonna love the compensation there. 128 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 5: I will give the Cowboys credit. They're taking a risk here, 129 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 5: they're taking a chance, and I don't think you can 130 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 5: discredit for then that down the line. But how exactly 131 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: we look back on this with hindsight being twenty twenty, 132 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: I'm not one hundred percent sure. But as we sit 133 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 5: right now, what is at May seventh, twenty twenty five. 134 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 5: I give the Cowboys front office credit for at least 135 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 5: taking the chance, because I think that's what we've been 136 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 5: parading over the course of the last few years, is like, 137 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: just take the chance on somebody, go ahead and spend 138 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: that draft capital, see what happens. And this has the 139 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 5: potential to actually be an underpay if he performs to 140 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: the level of we know he's capable of, but it 141 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 5: also definitely has a potential to be an overpay. There's 142 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 5: a wide range right there. 143 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: It's a bold move, right and it's one that suggests that, 144 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: at least internally, they think they can win now, Like, 145 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: you don't do this if you're not trying to win 146 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: the division right now. No, Matt, we Tod We talked 147 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: all along about how they've done nothing but losed round 148 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: to Philadelphia, the defending Super Bowl champs, and the Washington Commanders. 149 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: This move narrows that gap in my mind, I mean, 150 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: because this is something they had to have if they're 151 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: going to be an elite offense. They haven't had it 152 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 2: since what they had Amari Cooper or healthy Michael Gallup 153 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: playing there. This they effectively have two number one receivers again, 154 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: Like if you talk about ceedee lamf he goes out, 155 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: can this guy elevate and be a one? Yeah? 156 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely, no question about. He's done it. 157 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: He's been that in Pittsburgh and beside the being motivated 158 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: for the financial payoff at the end of the year 159 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: and securing a long term, big money, guaranteed contract, Like 160 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: he gets to play with the best quarterback by far 161 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: he's played with. I mean, the numbers he's put up 162 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: are pretty amazing, given he's played with three different quarterbacks 163 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh and none of them have played at an 164 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: elite level. 165 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 5: No, can I propose a question, I don't want to 166 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 5: take sure Militari four years, one hundred million dollars. He says, 167 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 5: I'll sign it today. Do you do it? Knowing the 168 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: risk involved? 169 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: I want to see him on the field first, Yeah, 170 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: I'll risk it. I have to pay him thirty million. 171 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 5: And knowing Jerry the same field, Knowing Jerry, he would 172 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: say this. He's saying that about Michael Parsons exactly. 173 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: Well, if you can say that about Michael Barses, you've 174 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: got to say it about Pickens. 175 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: Stay stay in that realm here. So Brian Schottenheimer has 176 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: gone out and said, you know, they want a certain 177 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: type of guy. 178 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: Ed. 179 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: You and I were here when Bill Parcels was around, 180 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: and Bill came in and said that same thing. But 181 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: then Bill would also kind of contradict himself and say, 182 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: say the boy scouts fellas. 183 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 5: See, oh it looks nice. 184 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: So I always took that as if your talent outweighs 185 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: your problems, I'll deal with you with Parcels. Thus Lawrence Taylor. 186 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: Thus when we saw Antonio Brown Bryant get escorted out 187 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: of the building because he threw a jersey Bill's face. 188 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: And so that's what I think about with pickings right now, 189 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: is he's they have this and what they want, but 190 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: you know, we'll make an exception here, and we got 191 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: to make an accept. 192 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: Well, Steelers decided he wasn't worth it anymore. That's why 193 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: he was available. 194 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the cowboys are saying, you know, we'll give 195 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: a three because you know what, we can. 196 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: Get it back. 197 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: That's a compic if he goes somewhere, we need a number. 198 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: Did he sign a contract that rich though if it 199 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: didn't work out for it to be a third round 200 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 5: type competitory pick? Does that make sense? 201 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 202 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: I think it would probably be closer to a fifth 203 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 5: verse six. It just depends on the contract. 204 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: So this is this it's a gamble. It's the gamble. 205 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: But I think if you're a Cowboy fan, you have 206 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: to be happy because you didn't get what you wanted 207 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: in the draft and you get a guy who's got 208 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: number one experience, who's played in this league that you 209 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: can put in on the other side of CD Lamb. 210 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: The Cowboys gave the fans what they wanted essentially in 211 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: my opinion, and Jerry talked about making a deal, and 212 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: here's here's that deal. 213 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: And I assume this is what Brian Schottenheimer wanted and 214 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: what Dak Prescott wanted and how they can whether they 215 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: can manage him effectively remains to be seen. I'm sure 216 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: a lot of that's gonna fall on Dak, right. I mean, 217 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: you don't have a very experienced wide receivers coach. You 218 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: have an inexperienced head coach, and I don't see Ceedee 219 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: Lamb getting in his face and telling you how to 220 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: act in a professional manner. So it's going to fall 221 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: to Dak. But like you said, I mean, it's a 222 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: perfect marriage in terms of the way Dak likes to 223 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: play the position. The vertical ability of this player, you 224 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 2: know he can. He can high point the ball and 225 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: makes contested catches. He scores in the red zone. Da 226 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: loves throwing the gold ball. This guy's as good as 227 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: there is in the league at. 228 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: That I think you have. The more I talk about it, 229 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: and I'm glad I got you guys here to bounce 230 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: these things off. I went from saying man three is 231 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: a lot to looking up the statistics of the player 232 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: and seeing like, Okay, this is a really good football player. 233 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: You needed a number two. He was playing at Pittsburgh 234 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: as a number one. This is a this is this 235 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: is the kind of risk you take. You take a 236 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: risk like this. 237 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: Now we know why they let Jordan Lewis go. 238 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 5: This is the plan all along. His tweet this morning 239 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: cracked me up. 240 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know he he I will miss him, Yeah. 241 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: Because he got He got into the guy's face after 242 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,239 Speaker 2: the game in Pittsburgh last year and said some unflattering 243 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: things about him. And then he winds up what's saying today. 244 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: I guess God knew what he was doing or something. 245 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, God knew what he's doing and put me in Jacksonville. 246 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 5: I think that's what he said. 247 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I think you bring up a really 248 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: good point about. 249 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 6: Who is. 250 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: Who's the person that reaches George Pickens. You need that. 251 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: And I go back to uh be four year time 252 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: Nick Randy Moss when the Cowboys didn't take him, and 253 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: Jerry's been like, we can't take him because our locker 254 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: room looks like and he ends up. He ends up 255 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: in Minnesota with Dennis Green. They've got Chris Carter and 256 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: they got Jake Reed, and Randy Moss was they took 257 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: him under their wing and they they really helped him. 258 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: And thus Randy went on and have an amazing rookie 259 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: year on It was the way to a Hall of 260 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 3: Fame career. And you bring up Dak Prescott here, I 261 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: just wonder who else can can you know? Get to 262 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: Pickens and let him know. Man, you got two things 263 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: going on here. One, you can get yourself a big 264 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: old contract because if you have a great year, Jerry, 265 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: we know Jerry and let stars go. You come up 266 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: here perform like a star. Jerry will pay. 267 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: Jerry loves the stars' offensive stars. 268 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: Yes. And Two, this is the big top man, this 269 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: is the stage you want to be on You're going 270 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: to be on NBC three times. You're going to be 271 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: on Monday Night Football. You gotta plan Thanksgiving, Debbi. All 272 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: this plug, you want, all the you want, all the smoke, 273 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: you want all you want the shine and that people 274 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: look at you and say, hey, he had a great year. 275 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 3: You want to be signing a big old contract. But 276 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: we've seen so many players Nick leave here, who've come 277 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: here and they've gone on other places. Can people see 278 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: him and they're on TV? This is a good opportunity 279 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: for this young man. 280 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. And you wonder how different his approach 281 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 5: will be arriving in Dallas versus how it ended in 282 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh because, like I mentioned earlier, he was prepared to 283 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 5: put that front office out of crossroads this softseason. Does 284 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: he have that same approach coming into here? You know, 285 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 5: the initial indications are no, But what does that look like? 286 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 5: What does that look like for Pickens? What does that 287 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 5: look like for the front office, the coaching staff, Dak Prescott. 288 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 5: All of a sudden, he's got an issue that he 289 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 5: has to handle in Pickens as well. It's not going 290 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: to be smooth sailing best case scenario. So there's gonna 291 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 5: be a lot, and you still have an emotional CD 292 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 5: Lamb too. I'm not saying that it's to the level 293 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 5: of George Pickens, but there's a high probability you have 294 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: two receivers throwing fits on the sideline at any given time. 295 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: And CD has already talked about the way he's gone 296 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: about that in the past. Part in San Francisco. If 297 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: you're there was a bad body language Baltimore last year, Yeah, 298 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 2: and he apologized for it, and he's done it. He 299 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: said what he believes, but he does it in a 300 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: better way now. The thing with the dynamic between Dak 301 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: and Pickens is like Dak's the established leader on this 302 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: football team, and Dak won't be afraid to get in 303 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: his face if necessary. And Dak has the thing that 304 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: Pickens needs. He has the ball. 305 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: We'll take our first break when we come back. A 306 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: lot of excitement about a duo here between Lamb and Pickens. 307 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: Does Jerry know the agent's name yet? 308 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: I'll let you discover that, ed. 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All right, Nick, what 363 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: are you hearing on your reading on your social media 364 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: channels here from fans about this trade. 365 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 5: There seems to be a lot of excitement. There's there's 366 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: always gonna be the pessimist with this fan base, but 367 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: there seems to be a lot of excitement. Honestly, more 368 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 5: excitement than I expected. I thought there would be a 369 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 5: little bit more backlash from a Hey, we could have 370 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 5: gotten a guy that doesn't have the character concerns type approach. 371 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: But it seems that fans are pretty excited about this, 372 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 5: and rightfully so. I mean, like we talked about, from 373 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 5: a football aspect, this could really be a home run. 374 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: And when's the last time they made a move like this. 375 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: I can't even compare it to Stefan Gilmour from a 376 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 5: couple of years ago. It's on a different level, but yes, 377 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 5: I remember for sure, I remember a similar type of 378 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: response I guess to Sewan Gilmore because fans were really 379 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 5: excited about Gilmore. But not like this, not like this 380 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 5: is different. I gosh, the last time they made a 381 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 5: trade that Mary Cooper. Probably it would have to have 382 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 5: to be. 383 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: I mean, this is And we have to remember so 384 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: many people love fantasy football and it becomes the whole thing. 385 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 3: They know who Pickings, They've seen him or they had 386 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: they know him. So it's like, okay, and that same 387 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: thing with you. How are you? 388 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: How are you? How are your I never checked, you 389 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: never see what people are saying about it. 390 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 5: It's a great approach. 391 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: Actually, and out here, mister, I'm mister, I'm too good 392 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: to call to write my fans. 393 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: Me and Skiff, we don't follow anyone else. We only 394 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: care about our own opinions. No, I would say that 395 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: most people have reacted with enthusiasm about the fact that 396 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: the Cowboys have finally done something. Do they ridicule Jerry 397 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: as a matter of normal response as a general manager? Absolutely, 398 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: But I think for the most part people are excited 399 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: that they've made a move of some consequence. 400 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 5: I'll say the approval rating of the Jones is up 401 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: right now? 402 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 12: Is up? 403 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: It is? 404 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: It is up higher than Nico Harrisons. 405 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 5: They have much higher Yes, would. 406 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: You rather have gotten McMillan in the first round of 407 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: the draft and still had your third round pick next year? 408 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: Or would you rather have Pickens and Booker? 409 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: I'm about Booker. 410 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 5: Booker is the reason I say yes, I'm Booker is 411 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 5: the reason. 412 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's one thing to draft a player like that, 413 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: but then when you see the kind of person he 414 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: is on top of that, oh yeah, throw me throw 415 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: me that in the locker room all day long. And 416 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: and when you heard guys talk about how Booker was 417 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 3: leading them during during this the rookie workouts here, stuff 418 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 3: like that. So he's he's coming in here. And you 419 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: had you had a college o see Bill, Bill O'Brien 420 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: on and he talked about how Bill told you before 421 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: you got here, he's going to go down there and 422 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: be a leader. So give me, give me someone like 423 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: that and a guy who comes out immediately the press conversation. 424 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to going up against Jalen Carr. So right. 425 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: I think, hey, man, who's. 426 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: The best guy on the biggest rival in the league. 427 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: Who's the guy swinging the biggest stick. Let me go 428 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: find that guy, you know, give me that prison mentality 429 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: in here, Who's who's who's running the yard? Let me 430 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: go find that guy. I'm all for it all day long. 431 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, captain around here, give me give me Booker 432 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: and Pickens when you put I think. 433 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: The only criticism or the primary criticism of the Booker 434 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: pick in the first round, beyond that he's not a 435 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: tackle and it's not a value position, is you didn't 436 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: address your number one concern, which was receiver, and now 437 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: they have. 438 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: You've done that, so stay there. Ed This number two 439 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: concern was running back on they still need one team 440 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: that the okay that the head coach says you want. 441 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: So you're not satisfied, you don't like the room. 442 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: If they could still get Bryce Young, I would or 443 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: not Bryce Young, Breese Hall, and I would do that 444 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: in a second for reasonable heist. 445 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 5: I think the most pressing need in my opinion now 446 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 5: is one tech I think you got to go address 447 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 5: that one tech spot. Get you a veteran in there, 448 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 5: Just a veteran presence in case Mazzie Smith continues to 449 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 5: not work out. 450 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: Uh, didn't they just draft two guys at that spot? 451 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, a seventh round Yeah. 452 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: But they had a third round pick on one of them. 453 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's great, that's fair. That is fair. King Masote 454 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 5: ethical factor and more. Uh at the at the three 455 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 5: tech spot just given his size and ability. But Jay Toya, 456 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 5: I think he has a legitimate chance to take Mazzi's 457 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: job by the end of the season. If this is 458 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 5: this is now, We're never for Mozzie Smith, it is, 459 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: But I think throwing a veteran into that mix would 460 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 5: certainly help. 461 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: Isn't that when they traditionally go see who's on the couch. 462 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 5: One text are typically the ones on the couch. 463 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: It's a horrible job, and the guys already retired from it, 464 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna bring them back at the no camp, no 465 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: off season. 466 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 5: I don't think Lynn Ball Joseph has had a camp. 467 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 5: It's like twenty fourteen. 468 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: That's not an exactly right, it's cheatos fishing every now 469 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: and then. Huh what how much it's camp almost over? 470 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 5: How much do you weigh Lynvall who worked that out? 471 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: That's for me to know. And you to find out. 472 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: Exactly, Jason Peters, I need to just kind of do 473 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: I need to work out a little bit on the side. Okay, 474 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: So so the running back room you're you're not satisfied with. 475 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: So I think if they've got two third down specialists 476 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: and no real number one, number one running back and 477 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: if you're gonna run the football, like Brian Schottenheimer says, 478 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: is their priority, and that's what justifies to pick a Booker, 479 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: then and I think then you got to get somebody 480 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: at some point. 481 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 3: Giving up your three and your five, well the five 482 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: with the five, yeah, twenty seven, So three and twenty six, 483 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: five and twenty seven. So do you give up your 484 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: annual fourth round pick for now? 485 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: He suffered through that two years in a row. 486 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: Do it three years in a row. I'm telling you, 487 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: I really want to see what Javonte Williams can do 488 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: in camp. I do I do because I feel like 489 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: running back is one of those positions that you can 490 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: get and make a trade for in camp. 491 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: But the Broncos needed a running back after they traded him, 492 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: So why would they Why would Sean Payton get rid 493 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: of a running back if he needed a running. 494 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: Back everybody's got their own you know, their own flavor, 495 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: and he may not like Javonte just doesn't fit me 496 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: what I want. Coaches can be that way at times. 497 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: And yes, we know Sean has done an outstanding job 498 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: with running backs and has a Super Bowl and he 499 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: knows how he knows how to use combinations. He's very good. 500 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: But I just got the feel he just wasn't his 501 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: cup of coffee and he wanted to go get his 502 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: cup of coff which he is Sean Payton and deserves 503 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: every right say hey, I want a guy like this 504 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: that way. 505 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: And I'm just saying if Sean Payton has looked at 506 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: Javonte Williams and experienced him for two years and decided 507 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: after he led Denver and rushing both of those years 508 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: coming off the knee injury, if Sean Payton says I 509 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: need a better player, how does that make him a 510 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: starter in Dallas for a team that wants to run 511 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: the football. 512 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: I think it's a valid point. I think he's probably 513 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 5: the leader in the clubhouse right now. Though if you're 514 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 5: guessing who's rolling out there on the first drive in 515 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 5: Week one, it's probably Javonte Williams. But Jaden Blue and 516 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: film offf a factor into this in a very fascinating 517 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 5: way too. 518 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: If you can get what you got out of Rico Dowdell. 519 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: But I'm not sure they have a runner like Dowdell. 520 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: Who's the guy who's going to get the yards between 521 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: the tackles and get to the five and. 522 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: Six yard runs? 523 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: You don't believe in deuce one, oo's another agit player. 524 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: A couple of turpen sweeps here and there. Look it's fast. 525 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 5: Do you have another receiver to hand the ball off too? 526 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: I mean this, this, this is the fascinating work that 527 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: at this point in time of you got. 528 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: To I mean, they know what they want their offense 529 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: to look like. We don't, right, we haven't seen it yet, 530 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: so we have no we don't know. We just know 531 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: that he has talked about wanting to run the ball 532 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: and what he's wanted in a player at that position, 533 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: Miles Sanders and so far, I don't think it really 534 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 2: fits the kinds of personnality actually have. 535 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you but parcels will causing you got you 536 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: got some jags. Just a guy. They're just guys. 537 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: And they had that last year and they got six 538 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 2: touchdowns with just those. 539 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: Guys they did, and Jerry said the press conference he 540 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: thought it was more of the offensive line was the 541 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: reason why they had those issues than therefore the running back, 542 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: which Jerry basically said, in my opinion, hey man, we 543 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: can throw anybody on back here because if we have 544 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: a good line, they'll be okay. 545 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 5: I think the difference last year is they had a jag. 546 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 5: This year they have jags. They have have you know what, 547 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 5: you're right, You're right, and that can allow for some 548 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 5: multiplicity that in the run game. 549 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean who's I don't know who's got the 550 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: hot hand. I mean we saw Belichick and and his 551 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: offensive corning to Josh McDaniels figure that out for a 552 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: number of years. Here's James White at this point in time. 553 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean they. 554 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: Bring he didn't have any right. 555 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: Got to bring up facts and Hall of Fame quarterback 556 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 3: or Patrick Mahomes in his cast of dude. 557 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 5: So I don't know. 558 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: I mean he he had Marshawn Lynch and they led 559 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: the league in rushing and I don't think they have 560 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: a running back who looks anything like that except the 561 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: rookie that they took late. 562 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: From a physicality, Sam prank for the play style, So. 563 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: There's still more work to do. Potentially, because Jerry did 564 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: this is big. 565 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I think Pickens is big, solves a big problem potentially. 566 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: Arry Yeah. 567 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: In long term, he's only what twenty four to twenty five. 568 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: Just turned twenty four, And I would say, if you're 569 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: a Cowboy fan, you wanted the wide receiver, dress first, 570 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: running back, figure it out, but the white receiver I 571 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 3: thought was the most most important, and they've done that. 572 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: They basically listen to what their fan base saying. We 573 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 3: got to see something, and. 574 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: We've seen since the draft end that a lot of 575 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: teams going out and signing wide receivers. And when Dallas 576 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: wasn't involved in that, it made me think that Jerry 577 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: was really going to follow through on what he said 578 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: before the draft that they did have some substantive discussions 579 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 2: to acquire a receiver, and that's the way it played out. 580 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: Let me ask this question to both of you, Amari Cooper, 581 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen. They're both still out their free agents. Would 582 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: you take a. 583 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 5: Stab knowing what they still need on this team looking 584 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 5: at their cap situation, I would go for some other 585 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 5: needs first, and if hey, Mark Cooper wants to come 586 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 5: here for five million dollars for one year rental. Have 587 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 5: at it, but I don't think that'll be the price 588 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 5: for him at the end of the day. 589 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be surprised if they're still looking at 590 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: any of those veteran receivers. And both of them have 591 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: had issues with either the front office or a member 592 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: of the coaching staff. You know, because Keenan Allen played 593 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: for a couple of them Cowboys assistant coaches when he 594 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: was in Chicago. 595 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: What's going through Jonathan Mingo's head right now? 596 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: This is this is a good thing for Mingo. It 597 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 5: is it allows him to develop a little bit more 598 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: without being thrust into a role that he probably would 599 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 5: not have been ready for. I don't know if he 600 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: knows it, but this is a good thing for Mingo 601 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 5: in my opinion. 602 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing for their entire room 603 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: because it puts them athletically and in terms of talent 604 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 2: in the order they should be in. Like Jalen Tolbert 605 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: had his best season last year, He's fine as a 606 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: three in my mind. Right, Turpin can come in and 607 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: contribute on occasion as a receiver, but doesn't have to 608 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 2: make all the splash plays at the position that Ceedee 609 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: Lamb doesn't make. So yeah, I think I think their 610 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: depth chart looks much better wide receiver now. 611 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 5: Ryan flinnoy is probably the one that it doesn't be 612 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 5: because he's he's probably odd man out when you're looking 613 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 5: at roster cuts at this juncture. 614 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 4: At least he had a great camp last year. 615 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 2: I'm surprised you didn't contribute more during the regular season, right, 616 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: give me your give me your roster right now. 617 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: If you had to just pick your guys. 618 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 5: At receiver, obviously Lamb, Pickins, Turpin, Tolbert Brooks, does it 619 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 5: probably be your foe live because Brooks get I think 620 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 5: gives you more on special teams. That's that's the reason 621 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 5: I take Brooks. 622 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: There any chance you think they take six. 623 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 5: They could, I mean, it's certainly possibility. You would have 624 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 5: to take away from probably the tight end room. I 625 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 5: would have to imagine, uh, you know, does just shott 626 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 5: in Heimer carry four tight ends? Maybe not? Maybe that's 627 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: maybe that's your extra guy. And then in that case, 628 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: that's probably where flinoy sneaks in. 629 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: Because they put on or two of those guys on 630 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: a practice squad. 631 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 5: Oh for sure, I think Flinoy would safely make it 632 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 5: on a practice squad. Tree sha On Holden of course 633 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 5: would safely make it on a practice squad. Brooks would 634 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 5: as well. So yeah, that could give you some flexibility. 635 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 5: But once you're talking about Turp and Mango, those guys 636 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 5: definitely not you wouldn't be able to save on a 637 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 5: practice squad. 638 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 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You know, a veteran edition there 701 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 5: could certainly work. I don't know if trading for a 702 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 5: guy makes the most sense given that you're you've already 703 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 5: spent some draft capital with what we've been talking about 704 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 5: here today. But you know, if an opportunity presents itself, 705 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 5: why not. But I think at the very least go 706 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 5: and get a veteran corner just to elevate the competition. 707 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 5: I think they could use more numbers there. And then 708 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 5: I mentioned the one tech spot, getting a veteran in 709 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 5: that spot as well. Those would be the two biggest 710 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 5: for me running back. I would I if it were me, 711 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 5: I would see what happens early on in camp. I 712 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 5: would see what happens in the preseason and if they, 713 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: if they, if I'm the coaching staff and I feel 714 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 5: like I need to go get another guy, Darien camp, 715 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 5: then I'll go do that and I'll go I'll go 716 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 5: seek out that opportunity. But I'm gonna let these four 717 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 5: guys run and see see if something comes about with it. 718 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree with Nick on the quarterback 719 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: situation still being unresolved, not only who's going to be 720 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: healthy and when, but who's going to play aware like 721 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: who's going to be the slot corner. Now, maybe Matt 722 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: Eberflus already knows all this as far as you know 723 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: how they're going to start camp, but they do have 724 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: some injuries they've got to work through and some young 725 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: players that they've got to evaluate and get better than 726 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: they were last year. But yeah, I think the cornerback 727 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 2: situation has been kind of overlooked by the fans in general. 728 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the defense in general like has 729 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: been was It was a horrific part of their failure 730 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: last year, and a lot of it was injuries. But 731 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: they've they've made a lot of moves on defense in 732 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: free agency and a few in the draft that could 733 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: be really meaningful. But that was a really bad defensive 734 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 2: football team last year. 735 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 5: Let's say what. We have a schedule release coming out 736 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 5: next week we'll know who the Cowboys are playing every 737 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 5: single week of the season. If you look at those 738 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 5: first four games and you see some big time passing 739 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 5: threats receiving threats, it would surprise me if this team 740 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 5: makes it a little bit more urgent to go ahead 741 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: and get another corner, because you have to prepare for 742 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 5: the event that Trayvon Diggs and or Savone Reville are 743 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 5: not ready to start the season. 744 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: I am curious to see if they end up with 745 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: Philadelphia early on. 746 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: Jerry wants from week one, right in the first I mean, look, 747 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: it's Jerry and his guy, Tyler Booker. They both want 748 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: the Eagles. 749 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: So the way NBC has done this thing the past 750 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: couple of years, the Cowboys who've usually been they usually 751 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: get the Cowboys in the first three weeks. Somehow, someway 752 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: they get them in. They will get them in. And 753 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 3: it's a lot of times it's been the Giants, and 754 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: the Giants, you know, the past decade have been good 755 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: enough that they could put that matchup on TV. But 756 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Dallas, two big media markets, you know, I could 757 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 3: see it, and remember they had them, they did Tampa 758 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: two years in a row. You know, when when Tampa 759 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: was defending Super Bowl champions and then the next year 760 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: they did it again. 761 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: So they also like to save the big division games 762 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: for late in the year. 763 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: So you get three NBC games, and the Cowboys are 764 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: always playing one in September and playing one early and 765 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: because they didn't, they missed the playoffs last year. The 766 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: kind of trick I see how they work it is 767 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: they try to get him in early so they don't 768 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 3: get flexed. If they're a playoff team. I think they'll 769 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: be a playoff team, then you'll see, you know, you'll 770 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: see a November game, but if not, they'll try to 771 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: get something September October and then try to maybe hit 772 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 3: something again. 773 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: And you know, real got to see if Aaron Rodgers 774 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: is playing first, so you know how many times to 775 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: put the Steelers on, you. 776 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 3: Know ed it's not a crazy thought, and they're going 777 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: to be on one time definitely for sure on Sunday 778 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: Night Football. But I'm sure, I'm pretty sure they've already 779 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 3: got that game done, ready to go, and it's probably 780 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: going to be a Cincinnati or Baltimore game some you know, 781 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: a divisional game where you know, if Aaron Rodgers isn't 782 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: there Burrow is there, Lamar Jack. They got something to sell. 783 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: They're they're pretty, they're pretty stealth and doing things like that. 784 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: But I would definitely say look for the Cowboys here 785 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 3: within the first three weeks on Sunday Night football. Don't 786 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 3: be surprised if it is Thursday at Philadelphia, And if 787 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: it's not Thursday against Philly, it could be a Sunday 788 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: game Divisional. I mean, I'm thinking Washington and Philly. I 789 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 3: mean one of the two will be on Sunday Night Football. 790 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 3: They're definitely going to do it. It's not going to 791 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 3: be the Giants because the Giant's been bad this shoe. 792 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: But bet your bottom dollar there will be a Sunday 793 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: night football game between the Cowboys in either Philly or. 794 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: Washing So if it's Philly, do they have to go 795 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: get a corner? Like we talked about Gilmore being out 796 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: here when the Cowboys are having their draft press conference 797 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: and they've been in touch with him, in contact with him. 798 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a fascinating one. I say, why not. Yeah, 799 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: you can't have too much depth there, And I think 800 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 5: Gilmore's at a point in his career where if and 801 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 5: when Diggs and Revel do get healthy and they step 802 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 5: in and are able to start, then Gilmore would probably 803 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 5: take a back seat. But also you could have Gilmour 804 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 5: start and let Revel really ease into the situation and 805 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 5: you know, not really have to call on him unless 806 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 5: there's an injury or until his his second year b 807 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 5: And it. 808 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 2: Wouldn't wouldn't be a bad idea to have him influencing 809 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 2: your rookie. 810 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely. 811 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: That was the next thing I was gonna say. If 812 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: there's a guy you want talking to people right there, 813 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: it's a guy like Gilmore, and even a guy like 814 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 3: Gilmore to talk to someone like Pickens to say, hey, look, 815 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 3: you know how to be a professional, how to prolong 816 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: your career, because I mean, we all saw how much 817 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: respect he garnered. I mean, even what Diggs was talking 818 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 3: about changing his diet, and usually you know, your young 819 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: guys wait till later on, but he just saw what 820 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 3: what you know, Hey, look man, whatever it takes. But 821 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 3: I'm big on that. That's just me, that's just my person. 822 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm waiting till later on, just my diet. 823 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: And you look beautiful. When you do, you're gonna look 824 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: like a donna. She's looking great right now, does Gilmour 825 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: live around here. 826 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 5: I am I am unsure, okay, I am much. I 827 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 5: do know that that visit to the Star that we 828 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 5: saw that day, it was there's some there's a lot 829 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 5: of businesses that are on that side of the Star 830 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 5: and that's that's that's what that was in relation to. 831 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so we'll see. 832 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 5: No, I say, bring him in again and for for 833 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 5: real visit. 834 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 2: We'll see. 835 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 3: Hey, look, I I'm a I'm a fan of the play. 836 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: When they talk about culture and talk about that, that's 837 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 3: what you. 838 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 2: Want, professionalism, the epitome of that. 839 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 3: Yes, and I like the idea of what you're saying. Okay, hey, 840 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: Digs revel maybe not ready to go. Put Gilmour in here, 841 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 3: get him going, and then all right, we kind of 842 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: lessen the reps a little bit and keep him a 843 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: little bit fresher during the year because. 844 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: They started seven or eight corners last year, right, I mean, 845 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: that's that's how many corners you need from recent experience, 846 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: like starting pitchers. 847 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 3: In baseball, you can't have enough of them. You just 848 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: can't have enough of him. 849 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 2: So, and he's an older guy, but he played well 850 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 2: for you, and he played started fifteen games in Minnesota. 851 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: Last year in a division where they got some really 852 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 3: good receivers. There's some real good receivers in this league, 853 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: and you got two good quarterbacks, Rookie of the Year 854 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 3: and a Super Bowl MVP. 855 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: So I. 856 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. I would bring in Gilmore for five mil. 857 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 3: Before I'd paint Cooper five million dollars. I agree, I 858 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 3: would do that, and look that way. But there's they 859 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: are in a position right now that they're better than 860 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: they were this off seat, in my opinion's better than 861 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 3: what last year's off season was. They ought. Last year, 862 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: they kind of lied themselves a little bit a lot. 863 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 3: They lied to themselves a lot. They didn't do that 864 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: this offseason, and so I look at what they've done 865 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: here and I said, Okay, these are some positives and 866 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 3: we'll see what else they can do. 867 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, what do we say when when they hired Brian 868 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 2: Schoenheimer was Okay, you're taking a risk hiring You're the 869 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 2: only team that's hiring from within, promoting from within at 870 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: the head coaching position. You just fired a coach who 871 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: won twelve games three years in a row. You got 872 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: to you got to back this decision up. You got 873 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: to help him a chance to succeed, help him, and 874 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: it seems like they've taken that approach. 875 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 5: I think I wrote a column the day of Schottenheimer's 876 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 5: introductory press conference and the headline was literally, yes, they 877 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 5: are taking a risk and hiring Brian Schottenheimer. They are 878 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 5: going to have to take more for him to succeed, 879 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 5: and I would say that they've done that so far 880 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 5: this offseason. 881 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 2: If you write the headlines, I do. 882 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 5: I do, and I'm one writer in America rights headline 883 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 5: I do. It's on you. 884 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: Just send a little recommendation. If you're McCarthy, are you 885 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 3: ticked off? You're like, look at all this? 886 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm pissed off. I'll see it. 887 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 3: Now you have moved Jerry's They buried me, Yeah. 888 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 5: Giving this guy out this name. 889 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: They did nothing to help me coming off a twelve 890 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: win season. Yeah, they keep my job. 891 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, sink or swim and he say. 892 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 2: So now I'm out of the whole league again. 893 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: Back on TV, though, you know, he did some decent 894 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: draft work. 895 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 4: Lost his quarterback twice five years. 896 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 5: It's tough. That's tough. Yeah, yeah it is. But man, also, 897 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 5: I will throw out there though that I think Schottenheimer 898 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 5: is using his influence a lot more than McCarthy did 899 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 5: and the roster construction standpoint of things. Did did the 900 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 5: front office do him any favors? Absolutely not. But I 901 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 5: think Schottenheimer is using this influence that he has as 902 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 5: the head man in this building a little bit more 903 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 5: than the McCarthy did. 904 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 2: And every time he speaks publicly, I think you get 905 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: a sense of how he talked Jerry into making change 906 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: and selecting him. 907 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 3: Look, we've been on no offense. NICKI. You're young, and 908 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 3: we love you. 909 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 5: I respect. 910 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: We've seen a couple of these guys around him. We've 911 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: seen a few of these coaches around here. 912 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 5: Why you can't buy in until the field happens, until 913 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 5: they get on the field. 914 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 3: From a presence standpoint, we haven't had a head coach 915 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 3: with as as much present since Bill Parcells. Campbell wasn't 916 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 3: like that, Jason wasn't like that, and McCarthy wasn't those 917 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 3: last three guys. 918 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: You're killing Somebody told me this week out here, says 919 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: he reminds me a lot of Jason Garrett, only is tougher, 920 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: and he set himself at his press conference right. I 921 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: don't have a problem with disciplining players. I can discipline 922 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: players good. 923 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 4: Good start. 924 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 3: Well, when he talks about he's about relationships. So clearly 925 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: he's going to have to develop a relationship with Pickings 926 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 3: wide receiver because in core, they're all going to have 927 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 3: to put in and we're in here and just find out. 928 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: You look back at it. 929 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 2: I just I saw a clip of a play when 930 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: he was with Georgia and it was the same thing. 931 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 2: He's fighting some guy on the field, an opponent from 932 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: Tennessee on the field, grabbing him by the face mask, 933 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 2: throwing him down down the ground. I mean, the guy's 934 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 2: constantly on the border being ejected. 935 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 6: Man. 936 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 3: Antonio Antonio Brian just came back into my mind of 937 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: just here was a guy who had talent and was 938 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 3: his own worst enemy in not achieving that talent. And 939 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: you know, eventually went from here to San France and 940 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 3: it was out of the league. And you know, people 941 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 3: forget he wore the eighty eight. 942 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 5: That is also goes for Antonio Brown, who when he 943 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 5: left Pittsburgh. I don't think we realized that the issues 944 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 5: that he had in Pittsburgh were only the tip of 945 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 5: the iceberg, because then he goes to New England, he 946 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 5: goes to Tampa and those problems just explode. You hope 947 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 5: history doesn't tell us that that's going to happen with 948 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 5: another Pittsburgh receiver where he gets out of Pittsburgh and 949 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 5: you realize, like, damn, Pittsburgh was really holding this guy. 950 00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 4: They really managed it. 951 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, actually manage him really well. 952 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 3: But Mike Tomlins made us some dudes. He's managed some 953 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 3: interesting characters up there in Pittsburgh, man, And yeah, to 954 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 3: see them leave, I mean a lot of the guys, 955 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 3: especially from a receivers tame point. Remember Mike Wallace was 956 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 3: the guy before Antonio Brown turns down the contract and 957 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 3: they get rid of him and they give that money 958 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: Antonio Brown and becomes becomes a star. But yeah, he's 959 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 3: dealt with that. And then early on when Roethlisberger was 960 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 3: dealing with all his issues and Tomlin Le'Veon Bell, Le'Veon Bell, 961 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 3: I mean, gosh, she's on a lot of them. 962 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, Aaron Rodgers, here we go. 963 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: You know, if there's a dude made Franon Rodgers, it's Tomlin. 964 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 3: And you think about Antonio Brown put together a Hall 965 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 3: of Fame career. I don't think he's getting in but 966 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 3: he put together a resume that they should probably have 967 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 3: to debate and you would know best. You may have 968 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: to debate about it. Roethlisberger, they will have to debate 969 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 3: about it. And Bell basically shot his career all. 970 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 2: Love it all. 971 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 3: You know everybody who left there who wanted out of there. 972 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 3: You never saw them reach that level again like they 973 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 3: did in Pittsburgh, which is kind of one thing concerned 974 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: for me. It's like, you know, there's two people I 975 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: don't know if you want them trading with you. It's 976 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, Andy Reed. They're not giving away the good stuff. 977 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: They're not. They usually are on the winning side of 978 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 3: these deals. 979 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 5: The history would throw a red flag one percent. 980 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: The red challenge flag is out. George Pickens. 981 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you say, hey, some disgruntled receivers who've left Pittsburgh, 982 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 3: how's that worked out? Hasn't worked out? That that that 983 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: came into my mind. But this is this is the 984 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 3: work to me of what Brian Schottenheira has to do 985 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 3: as a head coach. 986 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: Jnio Brown or Tavius Brian Chase, Claypool, Deontay Johnson and 987 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: now George Pickens all traded receivers traded by the Steelers. 988 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 5: We see how Deontay Johnson has become a headache as 989 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,280 Speaker 5: well since leaving Pittsburgh. 990 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 3: Our TV's Brian came down here for half a second 991 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 3: and it didn't work out. Yeah, yeah, that's good one 992 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 3: it Yeah. Uh, but. 993 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 5: That's a tough list to be a part of. That's 994 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 5: a tough list to be a part that it. 995 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: But George Choms can change the narrative on failed stealer 996 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: receivers like Tomlin reje. 997 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 5: One difference is he's a lot younger and he's still 998 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 5: on his rookie deal. And I don't think this was 999 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh giving up on Pickens. I think this was Pittsburgh 1000 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 5: wanting to move off of Pickens. I think there's a 1001 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 5: difference there because they got DK Metcalf, they got their 1002 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 5: outside guy, and they bring in Robert Woods and they're. 1003 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 2: Expecting DK Metcalf's not been easy to manage either, and 1004 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 2: they chose him over and some money over this guy. 1005 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 5: And they're expecting a year two jump from Roman Wilson 1006 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 5: as well. So I think it just made sense for 1007 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 5: them to move off with the impending headache that was 1008 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 5: coming this this offseason. 1009 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 3: Tom I keep asking for it, doesn't he Metcalfe and Rogers. 1010 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 5: Toughest battles to the strongest soldiers. 1011 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: In that division, where seemingly the Ravens got a lot 1012 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 3: better than the draft. So all right, so as we 1013 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 3: get ready to shut down the show, here, did the 1014 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 3: Cowboys gain ground on Philly and Washington ed yes or. 1015 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 4: No with this one move? 1016 00:44:59,560 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 3: Yes? 1017 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Okay? 1018 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 2: Ow overall off season, I don't know about Washington. Washington's 1019 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: made some moves and Philly Philly, you could say maybe 1020 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 2: because Philly was so far in front of them based 1021 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 2: on the scores last year and based on what they 1022 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: did in the postseason. But they lost what five, five 1023 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: or six key defensive players, now that they lost them 1024 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: the year before too, and they overcame it. But there's 1025 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 2: a reason they drafted five defensive players at the start 1026 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 2: of the draft this year. 1027 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 3: Washington addressed their left tackle. 1028 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 2: Got a receiver, and they got another tackle. 1029 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: So I mean, I look at Washington's done, and then saying, 1030 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 3: you know, they're they're doing the right stuff, which I 1031 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 3: think kind of put the Cowboys episode. They had to 1032 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 3: make this train. You had to do something because you're 1033 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 3: watching the two teams ahead of you make moves. 1034 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 5: Don't forget about the Giants. They're making up ground too that. 1035 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 3: You know what, Their defense is definitely good. The quarterback 1036 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 3: still scares me. 1037 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, as it should. 1038 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 3: And if you can't get that right, good luck in 1039 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 3: this division with with the kinds of defensive players in 1040 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: this division. So that's why I look at the Giants like, 1041 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 3: you know, they might be able to win some games, 1042 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 3: but outside this division and then having to go up 1043 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 3: against the AFC West is going to be tough too. 1044 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 3: But they can win some games, but it's gonna be tough, sletting, 1045 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: because this thing keeps getting better and better from a 1046 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 3: defensive standpoint. In this division, you got some some really 1047 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 3: good football players and some and some donkunk I mean, 1048 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 3: think about some of the coordinators in this division. 1049 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 5: It's it's it's impressive. 1050 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, some really good defensive coordinators in this thing. 1051 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 3: Edwarder Man, thanks the cares. Appreciate you do. We scrutched 1052 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 3: Chris bean Man, John Josh you back there, Jazz, he's 1053 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 3: gone so so Jazz. Good luck to you wherever you're 1054 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: at there. We appreciate it. Rolling with you. 1055 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 5: She's a Puerto Rico I saw her in Puerto Rico 1056 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 5: over the weekend, so she uh, living our best life. 1057 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 4: You don't mean you were also in Puerto Rico. 1058 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 5: On the social media assess pool that I engage with 1059 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 5: way too much. 1060 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I saw a company saw you. 1061 00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 4: Shut him down last night. 1062 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1063 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 2: I was wondering if I should reach out to some 1064 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 2: Steelers people when I saw when I was starting hearing this, 1065 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 2: then I read Nick saying it's not happening to leave 1066 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: me alone. 1067 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 5: I was trying to watch the Warriors game. I'm a 1068 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 5: big Jimmy Butler guy. We might, we might let her 1069 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 5: over the course of time. I was just trying to 1070 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 5: watch the game, and I had heard two weeks ago. Yeah, 1071 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 5: we've talked about this, talks of stalk and I'm like, 1072 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 5: it's not happening, guys, just let me watch the game. 1073 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 5: And then sure enough I get a phone call about 1074 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 5: eleven thirty at night, and here we are, live and learn. Yeah, yeah, 1075 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 5: we're still reading. 1076 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 3: No matter what. I appreciate you. We shall see you 1077 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 3: next week. 1078 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1079 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.