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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark with Mr Charles W. Chuck Bryant and

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Speaker 1: for drugs uh medas a lamb. I think that's like

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00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: at a van okay, thumbs up on that um as

425
00:27:54,119 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: a promosine. I think that's like bear okay, uh excellent

426
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: excelazine that's ecstasy and potassium chloride that is UM special

427
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: K the cereal and that needs to be administered sequentially.

428
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: I believe in that order, correct, Yeah, because one of them,

429
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: what was the one with the X uh except excelazine Okay,

430
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: so that one excelazine, Yeah, maybe orig is zelazine. Anytime

431
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: something starts with three consonants, I just get throne one. Um.

432
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: But that if you just give that to a whale,

433
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: it's a sedative, I believe. Right. No, it's a pain killer.

434
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But it can cause thrashing. That is extremely dangerous.

435
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: You Like, the whale's tail is already dangerous enough when

436
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: it's stranded. If you give it a drug that makes

437
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: it involuntarily thrash, you're you're in big trouble. But they

438
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: found that if they administer that stuff after the other two,

439
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: it won't cause thrashing, but we'll have the pain killing effect. Yeah.

440
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: So the medazzolam and the aspromazine. Uh, they use already

441
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: in veterinary services for horses and dogs to calm them down.

442
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: And you know when when you have a dog put down,

443
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: they don't give just one shot. That's a couple of shots.

444
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, ideally, Yeah, they don't even give humans a

445
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: couple of shots these days. Yeah, So they do this,

446
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: you know with dogs, they give one to kind of

447
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: calm the dog down, and then wanted to stop the heartbeat, right,

448
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: and the potassium chloride, the final thing is the one

449
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: that stops the whale's heart. I believe. Yes, the exazzoline

450
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: is the pain relief and anesthesia, and then that final

451
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: potassium chloride is what does it. So the the guys

452
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: who came up with this UM protocol also developed needles,

453
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: like industrial sized needles that can be used. They're attached

454
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: to gardens sprayers. Yeah, that's nuts, right, So you put

455
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: all the drugs in these gardens prayers and then you

456
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: attach a needle to it. And the great thing about

457
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: the needles is that you can insert the needles into

458
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: the veins that are around the fins. You don't need

459
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: to go near the arteries, which which the main artery

460
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: connects the tail of the body. So it's much safer

461
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: to administer these drugs because you're working by the fin,

462
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: which is much less dangerous than say, working by the tail.

463
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: And apparently UM, I don't think that they've actually used

464
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: this protocol on any cetacean yet, but UM brand new.

465
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: It is brand new, but they they are feeling pretty

466
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: pretty good about it, as good as you can feel

467
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: about coming up with a cocktail of drugs to kill

468
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: a whale. But that's just one way of euthanizing whales.

469
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: There's there's other ones. People shoot them with shotguns. Yeah,

470
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: they're certainly more primitive attempts. Uh, that are primitive. Yeah,

471
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: it is. And and there's actually a protocol for shooting

472
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: a whale, and you want to use very high caliber

473
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: bullets projectiles, and if you don't, you're just going to

474
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: hurt that whale because they have a really really strong skull. Yeah,

475
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: that's really tough to penetrate. Um. So there's this thing

476
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: that's been developed called the sweed, the sperm whale euthanasia device.

477
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: Sperm whales have a very thick goal. They're huge whales,

478
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: and this thing is a modified World War two fourteen

479
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: point five millimeter Russian anti tank gun that's been developed

480
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: just to euthanize sperm whales by shooting them in the

481
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: head with this thing. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the

482
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: drug cocktail. There's also exanguination, which is if you don't

483
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: have a drug cocktail and you've got a whale, you

484
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: don't have an anti tank gun, you don't have a

485
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: drug cocktail. The the the preferred method is to exanguinate

486
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: the whale by cutting that major artery that connects the

487
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: tail to its body and basically just letting it bleed out,

488
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: which is sad, but it's better than dying while your

489
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: skin is is burning off, you know. Uh. And so

490
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: we'll finish with um kind of the problem of what

491
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: to do with that dead whale. Uh. And something that

492
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: happened in November nineteen seventy November twelve, specifically in Oregon.

493
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: A lot of people think that it was a made

494
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: up story that they blew up a whale, but it

495
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: really happened, right, And there's actually grainy footage of it

496
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: on YouTube seventy news footage from w no k A

497
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: t U t V right because it's west right, so

498
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: it's k oh is that what that is? W's the east,

499
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: Kay is the west? I never knew that. Uh. So

500
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: you've got um an eight ton forty ft long sperm whale.

501
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: This from Snopes correct. Yes, um. And apparently snobs did

502
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: the real research because there was this long published article

503
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: that everyone kind of referenced over and over as people

504
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: do on the internet. UM, and they realized, you're, like,

505
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: no one ever really called the people that actually did this,

506
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: so let's do that. And they did talked to a

507
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: guy named Ed because it kept coming up on the

508
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: internet and people thought it was number one and it

509
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: just happened, and then number two that it was a

510
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: hoax and an urban legend and an actual urban legend

511
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: developed out of the real thing. Correct. But the real

512
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: story is that on November twel eight to forty ft

513
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: long sperm whale which was dead, washed up on in Florence, Oregon,

514
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: and um it was. You know, a dead whale eventually

515
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: will smell a lot. That's a big problem. And not

516
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: only that, it's it poses a big problem. And that

517
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: if if you have a whale that's like still partially

518
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: in the surf, those sharks come of calling to feed

519
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: on it, and they'll attack anything around there. So it's

520
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: a huge public health problem if you have a big

521
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: dead whale on your beach. Ye. So, um, they think, like,

522
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: all right, we need to get rid of the thing.

523
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: What do we do? Who do we call? Um? The

524
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: Oregon Beaches Public right of Way. So oddly enough, they

525
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: went to the State Highway Division to clean this up.

526
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Uh So they consulted the Department of the Navy, and

527
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: the Navy said blow it up. Yeah. This guy named

528
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: George Thornton was the guy whose shoulders that fell on.

529
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: He was with the Highway Division, and he was like,

530
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: all right, we'll blow it up. I mean they it

531
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: made sense of the time they blew up huge boulders

532
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: that weighed about the same and that's how they that's

533
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: the what they used to calculate how much dynamite to

534
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: blow this whale up. Yeah, I mean, in the weirdest way,

535
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: it did make sense. It totally did. Like they calculated

536
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: that they would need a half a ton of dynamite

537
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: twenty crates worth, and they thought, well, if we stuff

538
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: this stuff on the landward side of the whale, it'll

539
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: blow it out to see how to see. Basically, no

540
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: must know, fuss gonna blow it the smithereens and we'll

541
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: just leave it for the seagulls and you know, the crabs.

542
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: And I think the quote was the crabs and the

543
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: seagulls and what not to eat the tiny particles of blubber,

544
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, no fuss, no must. So on November twelve, uh,

545
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: there were a group of a couple dozen onlookers who

546
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: came to see this. Word got out around Florence, Oregon

547
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: that they were going to blow a whale up. That

548
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: was a pretty fun thing to do in Florence, Oregon

549
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: that day, right, so people people came out to see

550
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: Channel two ka t used. Paul Lindman reported on the scene,

551
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: and he did the whole thing, very tongue in cheap.

552
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 1: This is right out of the gate. They're gonna blow

553
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: a whale up with half a ton of dynamite. This

554
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: guy got the hilarious nous inherent in the idea right

555
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: out of Anchorman pretty much. Uh, And so he called

556
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: it and everybody went and hid behind the dunes about

557
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: a quarter of a mile away, not far enough. No,

558
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: they blew the thing and you got to see this

559
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: footage just just look up exploding whale on YouTube. It

560
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: was a huge explosion and everybody's watching and they're like, yeah,

561
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: somebody goes we and then all of a sudden they're

562
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: like oh some I think a woman says, oh God,

563
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: as whale parts just start raining down on everybody. Yeah,

564
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: it's like that scene in Tremors when they finally blew

565
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: up one of the tremors and they just start, you know,

566
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: getting Of course in Tremors, it was that kind of

567
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: orange blood orange pulp, one of the grab boids. So

568
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: they were called that's what. Oh well, that's what the

569
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: the store owner, the little store owner guy called them.

570
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: They were trying to think of what he called me.

571
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: He's like, what about grab boids? Great movie? Um? Yeah,

572
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: So it basically rained down whale blubber. Uh, some in

573
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: larger pieces than others. And it's remarkable nobody got hurt

574
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: because a three foot by five ft piece landed on

575
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: a buick owned by Walter uman Hoffer and they showed

576
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: the car. It crushed his car. Had he been sitting

577
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: in there, he would have been dead as a doornail. Like,

578
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: it's really lucky no one got killed. Yeah, that could

579
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: have squashed somebody easy, sure. And so everybody is sitting

580
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: there wiping whale blubber and guts and and gristle off

581
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: of their faces and they look over and most of

582
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: the whale is still there. It definitely vaporized part of

583
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: the whale, but most of it was still there. So

584
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: they just buried it on the beach, which is one

585
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: thing you can do with the whale. You can bury

586
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: it on the beach. You can take it to a

587
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: lion fill. You can drag it out to see that's

588
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: the preferred thing, but out and then let it, let

589
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: it sink, which is the natural thing. There's something called

590
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: a whale fall which creates like a temporary ecosystem on

591
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: the seafloor that attracts a bunch of different organisms that

592
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: eat the whale. Right. Um, But it's illegal in the

593
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: US to to tow a whale that's been put down

594
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: with barbiturous out to sea because remember those don't break down,

595
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: so you've got secondary toxicity. So if you put a

596
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: whale down with the cocktail in the US, you have

597
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: to render it, burn it, or bury it in the landfill.

598
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: You can't take it out to sea. But if you

599
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: just shoot in the head, you can drag it out

600
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: to sea and and let it. Say, there's a lot

601
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: of math to be done with dragging it out to

602
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: sea because ostensibly you would tie a rope around its tail,

603
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: pull it out where it would drag along the sea floor. Well,

604
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: hopefully it would float, would it, Sure it wouldn't. The

605
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: reason why is another reason why a dead whale is

606
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: super dangerous because as they decompose, gas builds up, just

607
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: like they do in a decomposing human, and then they

608
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: explode on their own sometimes too that you don't want

609
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: to be standing near either all right, So I guess

610
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: it has to float because otherwise eventually it would start

611
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: pulling that boat down with it, at which point you

612
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: would definitely want to cut bait. Yes, literally, you got

613
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: anything else? No, it's um it's a very sad thing,

614
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that there are people who dedicate their

615
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: lives to this kind of thing. Yeah, if you're into that,

616
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: If you hear that as a call and go check

617
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: out Project Jonah's website. They will be right up your alley.

618
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: You'll probably end up moving to New Zealand, which I

619
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: can attest is a great, great place to visit. I

620
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: want to go. It's great, And I hear it's friendly

621
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: and safe. Yes, and like i've heard it compared to

622
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: like the United States in the nineteen fifties as far

623
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: as like friendliness and safety. Yeah, and just sort of

624
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 1: a bit of a throwback in like the best ways.

625
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: That's what friends of mine have said. Or maybe they

626
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: just mean everyone's drunk all day long, maybe and uh,

627
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: doing drugs and having a good time. This is all

628
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: that happened in the fifties. There's a town in there

629
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: that was built in art like completely art deco in

630
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties. But they're talking about that they use

631
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: art deco to to describe it. No, this is just

632
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: New Zealand as a whole. Okay, well check it out.

633
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: We'll have to go there on tour someday. Absolutely. Okay. Well,

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Speaker 1: since I said we'll go there on tour someday, it's

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Speaker 1: time for listening email. I'm gonna call this general email

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Speaker 1: of interest. That's a good one. Hello, Josh, Chuck, and Jerry.

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Speaker 1: I cannot remember the name of the podcast where there's

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Speaker 1: a crazy doctor. I remember what this was, Um, not

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Speaker 1: Uncle Shlomo Um who got run out of multiple towns,

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Speaker 1: starts up multiple practices and possibly loses his license multiple times.

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Speaker 1: I know if I could remember exactly what he was

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Speaker 1: doing to get run out of these towns, I would

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Speaker 1: remember the podcast. But the right page of twenty it

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Speaker 1: is lost. Do you remember it? No? I was hoping

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Speaker 1: that you would know and that we could delight this listener.

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Speaker 1: I think this guy's confusing us with stuff to blow

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Speaker 1: your mind. What's the lady? I think? Do you think

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Speaker 1: I don't know? It happens from time it's hot. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna finish the email anyway. Um, I know that It's

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Speaker 1: on my list of favorites amongst Satanic Panic of the eighties,

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Speaker 1: great one, Operation Mincemeat another good one, how Bars work,

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Speaker 1: to listen to public Relations and Kitty genevese Boy, those

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Speaker 1: are all some of my favorites too. Uh. And of

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Speaker 1: course the time you guys partied with Billy Boy Gates.

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Speaker 1: That was a great party. Uh. You guys always brighten

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Speaker 1: my day and lead me to become a person whose

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Speaker 1: slogan is so I heard on this podcast dot dot

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Speaker 1: dot there's a t shirt. I'm an architecture student from

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Speaker 1: Auburn University War Eagle even if you don't want to Tigers. Uh. Yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: that's just weird dumb to make up your mind Auburn. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I've listened to you all to keep me going

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Speaker 1: through countless late hours, early mornings and days. But I

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Speaker 1: don't ever leave my studio desk. Also, I have forced

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Speaker 1: many of my classmates to listen to you. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to fellow listener and classmate Corey Subsessic pronounced Sue Basic

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Speaker 1: Subsassic and not through all kinds of letters in there,

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Speaker 1: Corey Sue Basic if you read the son the listener mail. Uh,

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Speaker 1: shout out Corey and I always suggest I always suggest

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Speaker 1: the Satanic Panic as the first episode. That's a good starter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. Anyway, guys, please help me remember my favorite

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Speaker 1: episode and have just a remarkable day. Best of luck

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Speaker 1: to you all in your perspective children and spouses. I

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Speaker 1: don't think she means perspective children. Does she thinks she's

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Speaker 1: been in architecture too long. That's a perspective. Children mean

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Speaker 1: children that have yet to be born. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's happening anytime soon. Uh. That is from Olivia Barrett,

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Speaker 1: she says, signed note Birmingham, Alabama would love to have you.

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Speaker 1: We performed in Birmingham. It was a great show. It

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Speaker 1: was a great show. Maybe we'll come back in day

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Speaker 1: to the great work play eater there. It's a very

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Speaker 1: warm reception. Um, I can't remember. So what I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: is someone writes in to about the crazy doctor who

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Speaker 1: got run out of multiple town start to multiple practices

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Speaker 1: and possibly was this his license multiple times? So idea,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, not a clue. If anyone can remember

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Speaker 1: that and write and tell us will answer Lidia back

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Speaker 1: again on the air and then read jrtan Now, oh well,

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Speaker 1: there you go. That's a heck of a deal. Chair.

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Speaker 1: You know. Well, if you have Livia's answer, you can

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Speaker 1: can also hang out with me. I'm at josh um

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Speaker 1: Clark on Twitter. You can I Alway Chuck on Facebook

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Speaker 1: at Charles W. Chuck Bryant or Stuff you Should Know.

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