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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. We'll skip training camp if

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Speaker 1: contract demands are not mad. Welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined by a room filled with herose,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosatal. What's up? Boys? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Oh Man hit it Irish? Whoa? I won't just survive?

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Speaker 1: Oh you will see me the ride tonight. You can

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Speaker 1: ride my story. Kenny Perry concert, Greg, get out of

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Speaker 1: my shot, chevyot Field just cof Los Angeles, California. Shake

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Speaker 1: the number three seed shield because my roots meet the

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Speaker 1: number two seed fundamentals. Shot at the title, how you

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Speaker 1: feeling west Uh, I'm playing. I'm suiting up. I've got

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Speaker 1: this torn hamstring. My entire back of my leg is

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Speaker 1: black and blue. I'm playing. I didn't play all year

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Speaker 1: just to sit out in the playoffs. You are a

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Speaker 1: master of the craft, and that's why we had a

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Speaker 1: big meeting yesterday. Katy Perry still on. Can we can

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Speaker 1: turn down? Katie? Greg's like it's too commercial, take it off.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get to my spoon show right after this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to stepping so cynical, Greg, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that was the official song of the softball team.

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Speaker 1: It's actually the song of the Olympics, so I've never

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Speaker 1: even heard of it. Uh wait, is that latter part

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Speaker 1: that's true? Yeah, what that's the Olympic That West has

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Speaker 1: never heard of it, that's definitely true. I would have

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Speaker 1: thought that Wes was maybe potentially hamming up this injury

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Speaker 1: like appearance tonight and in heroic fashion, except that you

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Speaker 1: sent a photo of your hamstring and I think it

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Speaker 1: It was disgusting. It was look ten times worse than that.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Well he showed feels better, but it looks worse.

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Speaker 1: He showed it to everyone at Westlemania. You were wearing

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Speaker 1: shorts and uh it's right there. It looks like you

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Speaker 1: were a gunshot wounded beneath the service. I could speak

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Speaker 1: from experience. I had the same injury two months ago,

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Speaker 1: and West coming back on two weeks is a huge risk.

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Speaker 1: Uh not really in terms of reaggravating the injuries. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now what a huge risk of your life? Not really,

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Speaker 1: I'm forty two years old. I'm not risking my career here.

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Speaker 1: This is all I have left to live for from

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Speaker 1: an athletic standpoint, is tonight's playoffs. So we have, yes,

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Speaker 1: we have a um A game, like I said, and

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Speaker 1: then if we win that game, we play the number

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Municipal UH Softball League. So that is the newsroom, Greg,

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Speaker 1: and you could speak to this. You're right in the

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Speaker 1: energy pulsating through the newsroom. It's buzz it's buzzing. There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that the softball team has brought this company

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Speaker 1: for tonight. I questioned the scheduling of the league. I

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Speaker 1: You know, We've we've been building the last couple of months.

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Speaker 1: and we'll each take a couple of swipes some of

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Speaker 1: Let's start with some retirement news. Offensive tackle Eugene Monroe,

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Speaker 1: uh during his twenty eight minute barber shop session. Number five,

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Speaker 1: did you guys know we had a firefight at the wedding.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Did you guys know earth Wind and Fire

427
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Speaker 1: played at the wedding which was amazing? Number four, we're

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Speaker 1: still requesting you to come do a game. Yeah you know,

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Speaker 1: I know we met each other in l A. That

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Speaker 1: THAT'SO long ago and we're a huge, huge fan. So

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Speaker 1: al Pacino please come to a game. I know you're

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Speaker 1: a huge, huge fan of Russell Wilson. I would assume

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Speaker 1: I don't know who else he's to rest, and I

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Speaker 1: like that he assumes that there's a chance al Pacino

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Speaker 1: is watching his Facebook live post. Number three. I always

436
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Speaker 1: see what movies and Microsoft Service pause his manager and

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Speaker 1: I don't. I can't stress us enough. This was an

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Speaker 1: open mind I went into. But in twenty eight minutes,

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Speaker 1: they dropped three exact product placements, naming the entire product.

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Speaker 1: What you heard there and we'll replay here is a

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Speaker 1: reference to a Microsoft Service tablet of some kind. He

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Speaker 1: also referenced his Bows headphones that he likes and referenced

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Speaker 1: a specific brand, The Q thirty five's I believe they were,

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Speaker 1: so that was the purpose of this video. It's just

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Speaker 1: an ad, but they're trying to check you into being

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Speaker 1: natural and things. And then the manager um. The manager

447
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: at one point is bragging that when they go golfing,

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Speaker 1: they break golf etiquette and they like to bring out

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Speaker 1: their bows sound link system, which you could hook up

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Speaker 1: easily to your Bluetooth and get five or six hours

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Speaker 1: straight play all day. Alright, So number three, I always

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Speaker 1: see wife movies sent a Microsoft service like what do

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Speaker 1: you what do you put on it? Godfather, Scarface all So,

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Speaker 1: according to Russell Wilson, he watches Godfather, which is not true,

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Speaker 1: scar a Face in the Wolf of all over and

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Speaker 1: over and over. I mean I would make him maybe

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Speaker 1: a psychopath if you did that as much as you

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Speaker 1: as as you say you did. Number two for those

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Speaker 1: who are not Trevor, it's like a coach guy. For

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Speaker 1: those of you that don't know Trevor, he's like my

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Speaker 1: mental coach guy. And number one by Trevor, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be good times. There's gonna be bad times. There's no

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Speaker 1: such thing as bad times. Mine throw on this moments, right,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be good times. There's gonna be bad times.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as bad times, in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Just moments he's he's down in the mud, wallowing, battling

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump for the lowest bodily battling down Trump for

468
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Speaker 1: the lowest spot on the common man rankings. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: common man about Russell Wilson. There's just everything fake. A well,

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Speaker 1: why did was this? I mean, there's so much like

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Speaker 1: snackable content, as they say out there in that ridiculous term.

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Speaker 1: But in general, there's all these videos we have to

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Speaker 1: choose from, and they they're smart with people's attention spans.

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Speaker 1: They're about four and a half minutes long and you

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Speaker 1: can get everything you need crammed in in that time.

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Speaker 1: Why are they releasing a twenty eight minute barber shop? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know, think piece on video here? Irish, do you

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Speaker 1: have an answer to that? None whatsoever. Like I told

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Speaker 1: you before, I was physically drained after finding all those clips,

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Speaker 1: and the eyes did a great job doing the pre production. Today.

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Speaker 1: My favorite quote was obviously my loving wife. She loves

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Speaker 1: music as well. I listened to her stuff. Here's my

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Speaker 1: only defense, here's my only defense. Because I've been getting

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Speaker 1: a hair cut today. And the one thing that I

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Speaker 1: think about all the time is, oh, man, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to have to talk to anyone during the haircut.

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Speaker 1: Unless once in a while you get someone cut your hair,

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Speaker 1: you feel good. You can maybe have a ch at,

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Speaker 1: but in general, just cut the hair. Let's get in

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Speaker 1: and out. I'll say, how do you have a nice time?

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Speaker 1: Can you make it a half an hour video of

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Speaker 1: this experience? I would never produce. I would hopefully me

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Speaker 1: just be me being quiet. Why is he doing this

494
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Speaker 1: as his way to talk? I don't know. Good luck

495
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Speaker 1: to you. Russell Wilson talk to Trevor. He's like his

496
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Speaker 1: mental coach guy. Last word to Irish my favorite quote

497
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: was no matter what you're doing, you always have to

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Speaker 1: be here wherever you are. Then contradicts himself later in

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Speaker 1: that and says that as a quarterback who has so

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Speaker 1: many things around me at all times, I can't be here.

501
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: Always gotta be looking ahead, And then all the people

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Speaker 1: around him were like, man, that takes such a such

503
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Speaker 1: a gift, it's so special. They're like nodding their head.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the news. NFL Media

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Speaker 1: Corporate re ord alright, we're here, it's Gonda has happened.

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Speaker 1: It's now a segment. Let's here it again, NFL Media

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Speaker 1: corporate or we know the news by now it's broken.

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal has stepped down. Um, well, you know I

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Speaker 1: should let Greg speak for himself there, because there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of buzz on the subreddit that Greg was

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Speaker 1: perhaps the victim of some kind of type of demotion

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Speaker 1: or you know, something along those lines. I'll read one

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Speaker 1: subreddit comment here from a man that goes by Naughty

514
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Speaker 1: Nugget about own in my corporate life when a manager

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Speaker 1: gets his staff yanked yet doesn't get assigned to a

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Speaker 1: well defined role afterwards, he's said to be quote in

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Speaker 1: the penalty box. I have no idea if this is,

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Speaker 1: uh the kind of corporate limbo is what is happening

519
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Speaker 1: to Greg? But I am concerned since it is a

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Speaker 1: dicey place to be, or maybe he just wants to

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Speaker 1: be in a traditional transitional role. Alright, Greg, the floors here,

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Speaker 1: Why don't you clarify what's going on? I don't even

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Speaker 1: know about it. Well, I did get some tweets, tweets

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Speaker 1: saying was I a victim of some sort of power play?

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Speaker 1: And David Eally is now my boss. First of all,

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Speaker 1: there's no power play. Second, David Eally is not my boss. Third,

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Speaker 1: I'm not in any I'm not in any penalty box.

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Speaker 1: If if you had listened to what I said last time,

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Speaker 1: it was about, you know, as Chris and I were saying,

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Speaker 1: heating the call, it was about trying to take advantage

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Speaker 1: of the time left in your life and have a

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Speaker 1: job that you enjoyed more. Essentially, you know what I mean.

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00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: You get a bigger help, You get a bigger kick

534
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: out of writing and watching football than going to meeting.

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Speaker 1: I want to do things that i'm that I enjoy,

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Speaker 1: that that I love to do, that gets me going.

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Speaker 1: And you made it crystal clear at the last podcast

538
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Speaker 1: talk about this. Meetings were not meeting. Meetings were not it.

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00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't overly proud of a lot of the articles

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Speaker 1: and things I've been writing over the last few years,

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Speaker 1: in particular, because you know, you don't have all the

542
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Speaker 1: time in the world that you want to put I

543
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: want to I wanna put my time into making good

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Speaker 1: football content. I'm bad at being a manager. I'm gonna

545
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Speaker 1: try to do this. Disagree there sand is tumbling through

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Speaker 1: the hour glass, Greg, that's that really is true. I

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Speaker 1: do think, I do think we we've all had I've

548
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Speaker 1: been doing this, are you ill on some level for

549
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Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen years? It's good too. At some point

550
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Speaker 1: you realize kind of what you like doing and what

551
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: you don't like doing, and if you can at all

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Speaker 1: seek out what what you do like doing, they go

553
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Speaker 1: for it. If you start giving away your personal possessions,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a major red flag mark. Does I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna use this advice next time? David Eally throws an

556
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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham post. My way, everyone's busy sees the day anyway,

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Speaker 1: So there you go. I thought it was important to

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Speaker 1: give you the floor there and I and people like, oh,

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Speaker 1: is Greg gonna have a new name, a new nickname?

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Speaker 1: My vote is no. I think, uh, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: the full name is the boss? What is emeritus? Sure

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Speaker 1: that's a mouthful, but that's too much so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let's just roll with the boss. How about just emeritus?

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Speaker 1: I think you're known as the boss, you know, unless

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Speaker 1: something great comes along. I agree with Dan. All Right,

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Speaker 1: there's your update NFL Media corporate Alright, moving on, Uh,

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Speaker 1: that gonna be used again. Are we gonna break down

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Speaker 1: different things that have gone We might have to clarify

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Speaker 1: Eli's role at some point, at some point, at some point,

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Speaker 1: but uh, let's move on for now, and time for

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Speaker 1: a new segment, Debunker Bunker, where we take a how

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Speaker 1: did we put it again? Conventional wisdom and turn it

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Speaker 1: on its ear wisdom, turn it on its ear. I

574
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Speaker 1: like that West and say, why, hey, you shouldn't be

575
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: thinking so conventionally? What kind of wisdom is that? Anyway,

576
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Speaker 1: We'll start with Mark Sessler. Get us going. I want

577
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Speaker 1: to go to Dan's team, the New York Jets. You

578
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: know yesterday York Jet blood bath. No, actually, I I

579
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Speaker 1: am going to use something that happened last week is

580
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Speaker 1: a way to prop up the Jets front office and

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Speaker 1: debunk the idea that some are saying that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick's not gonna come back, an unnamed coworker of

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Speaker 1: mine on our in how Slash I Am channel, you

584
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Speaker 1: can bleep that out. Thanks, Brandon, More work for you.

585
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Don't tend to prop up garbage people, More work for you.

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Speaker 1: Uh suggested that Geno Smith would start twelve games. I

587
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Speaker 1: just don't agree, and I'll tell you why, because they

588
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Speaker 1: are going to get it done with Ryan Fitzpatrick. And

589
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Speaker 1: I am telling you that they're going to get it done.

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Speaker 1: I am going against the one person who says it

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Speaker 1: all right, it's great, and I'm just because listen, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, because I think you have a Geno Smith

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Speaker 1: thing going on, and maybe it's an anti Geno Smith

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Speaker 1: thing that I'm going here with here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But my point with with Ryan Fitzpatrick is that there

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Speaker 1: is no way the New York Jets want to put

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith on the field after what happened last year.

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Speaker 1: For Ryan Fitzpatrick. Listen, I have critiqued him. I think

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Speaker 1: it's fair to say we don't think he's a top

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Speaker 1: ten quarterback, but he fits in that offense. They want

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Speaker 1: to see if he can do it again. And not

602
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Speaker 1: a single Jets insider had any knowledge that they were

603
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Speaker 1: gonna sign Mohammed Wilkerson. Nobody came forth with anything, point

604
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Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, and so this Fitzpatrick thing is

605
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Speaker 1: going to happen the same way. Mike mccagnet is not

606
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Speaker 1: the glacier. He moves swiftly in the darkness. He's gonna

607
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Speaker 1: get this done. In the nick of time. But wouldn't

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Speaker 1: wouldn't the convention, the conventional wisdom is I may not

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Speaker 1: have to be done. I may not have played by

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Speaker 1: the I'm the one. I got my point across. I'm

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Speaker 1: in the debunker bunker saying that that Gino Smith is

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Speaker 1: a guy that they can win with, that that Chan

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Speaker 1: Gailey is the key to this whole operation. And whether

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Speaker 1: you got an average middle of the road quarterback journeyman

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick or you got Gene Smith, you're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be in the same time, I was simply debunking your

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Speaker 1: point that let's let's yeah, cut to the heart of this.

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Speaker 1: It's a Greg v Mark thing. Uh. I was shocked

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Speaker 1: by the way, because they were playing a lot of

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Speaker 1: Jet stuff on NFL Network on Wednesday, and I was

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Speaker 1: watching it. I was reminiscing or getting nostalgic for Fitzpatrick, who,

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Speaker 1: besides what happens in Week seventeen, was great for them

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Speaker 1: last year at thirty three toll touchdowns. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: that endlessly. But how many Jets fans, because I tweeted

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Speaker 1: about missing Fitzpatrick, are totally anti fits now and say everything.

626
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Speaker 1: It was kind of overrated. That was the overwhelming sentiment

627
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Speaker 1: from literally dozens of Jets fans who reached out to

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Speaker 1: me saying, you're crazy for you know, pining for this

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Speaker 1: guy because he actually stinks and he got lucky. Is

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Speaker 1: it's self defense though for when he doesn't come back.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I find it hard to really um fall into

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Speaker 1: Jet nation. The fan base is a little crazy to me,

633
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Speaker 1: but I was. I was legitimately surprised so many people

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Speaker 1: are now on the side of management with this when

635
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: he had the season he did. But well, the Ian

636
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: rapport was saying that could go into training camp and

637
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: maybe they'll take a look at Gino for a preseason

638
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: game or two and see how that happens, because that

639
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: will tell you what you need to know. I I

640
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: think if they thought there was that big of a

641
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: gap between Gino and Fitzpatrick, they'd offer they would have

642
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: already offered it more mind, but they also don't have

643
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: any money to offer. That's like a part of this

644
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: too that people keep overlooking. The Jets said tons of

645
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: cap space, this would have been done by now anyway. West.

646
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: I think group think has been the bane of the

647
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: fantasy football communities existence since the Internet became widespread fifty

648
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: years ago, but especially since Twitter became a thing starting

649
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: around two thou two thou nine. All the analysts tend

650
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: to line up behind the same guys or knocked the

651
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: same guys. And I think DeVante Freeman. When the Falcons

652
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: running back coach came out a few weeks ago and said,

653
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: and basically, they're gonna limit Deavonte Freeman's touches or take

654
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: a few touches away and expand Tevin Coleman's rule, there's

655
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: this idea that Freeman just isn't very good. Nobody mentions that.

656
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: The running back coach also said, I expect Freeman to

657
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: have a better year this year, and I know Greg

658
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: agrees with me with me on this. Davante Freeman is

659
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: just quite clearly a much better player than Tevin Coleman,

660
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: and he's the real deal. I don't think Davonte Freeman

661
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: is any kind of one year wonder. I totally agree.

662
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: He's really the inspiration for this, for this concept of

663
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: a segment because I was I was watching Saints Falcon's

664
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: Week seventeen. I don't know, well, I do know why

665
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: I was watching that, but and what recently and one

666
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: one thing that stood out. It just remind me Davante

667
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: Freeman is an incredible running back, Like he is one

668
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: of those guys that made the leap and then some.

669
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: And I think he's going to maintain that because he's

670
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: great like his his ability to make cuts inside a hole,

671
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: outside of holes, explosiveness is power everything. I don't think

672
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: he got enough credit for just how good he is,

673
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to maintain those games he

674
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: had last year. I would say also, like had they

675
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: had a regime change, maybe this kind of thing comes

676
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: into play. Kyle Shanahan loved what he saw, he worked

677
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: well in his system, and Tevin Coleman had his issues

678
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: last year, right he he was just an average looking back,

679
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think Shanahan knew what he had in

680
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Freeman or else. Maybe they wouldn't take Coleman. Very important

681
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: point about Shanahan though, outside of that one year with

682
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: the Browns, he has always had a one back who

683
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: produces over a thousand yards with a lot of carries.

684
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: To me, he's an incredible player. And I think that

685
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: offensive line came together relatively. It's not a it's not

686
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: a power packed like Pro Bowl offensive line, but second year,

687
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: I think they could run. There were a run first

688
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: team last year. Tevin Coleman three fumbles last year off

689
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: eighties seven carries. I mean, he just I think it's

690
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: about trust. If you're Kyle Shanahan and year two, you

691
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: gotta give it to the guy. Freeman's got the trust

692
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: right now. Like if I had to pick one of

693
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Speaker 1: those NFC South running backs, him or Martin, if you

694
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: even want to throw Stewart in there, who who's not

695
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: going to back up his breakout year. I think Freeman

696
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: is a safer bet just because I think he's that

697
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: talented in the team around and everything to stay close

698
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: to the level or at at or better than the

699
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: level he was at than Doug Martin. This Falcon's offense

700
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: is gonna surprise some people this year. I think that's

701
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: another thing that you could find in the debunk or bunker,

702
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, some Falcon's offensive. I'm just saying that's a

703
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: debunking notion right there. You gonna find a lot of

704
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: bottled water. Mohamed Sanusan the debunker bunker too. He's going

705
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: to succeed is the number two. There find a lot

706
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: of granola bars. There still a lot of nonperishables, spam, spam,

707
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things loaded with preservatives. You don't know

708
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: how long you're in the debunker bunk. Would you rather

709
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: perish in whatever you know earth calamity happened, or be

710
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: eating spam? Has a go go on? S No, I

711
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: would rather live, that's a short answer. I don't know

712
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: if I would. That doesn't surprise. The last few minutes

713
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: went against Dan's no falcons talk on the that's not true.

714
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: That's not true. People don't need to hear me talking

715
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: all the time. You guys wanted to do beloved NFC

716
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: South Team. I let you guys do it. Well, you're

717
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: you're and then you know you're just not that excited

718
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: about Davante Freeman. Oh oh, we have a smaller workload

719
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: this year. Is you're gonna wear down down care good

720
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: luck this season? Well that I'm gonna I'm gonna go next.

721
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: This is gonna be my second second thing I found

722
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: in the debunker. But eight and eight team, all right,

723
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: well this is gonna this was gonna be my second

724
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: thing in the debunker bunker. But it's right what you're

725
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, the conventional wisdom is the NFC

726
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: south By like Greg loves this segment because he is

727
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: the ultimate contrarian. He loves to get in that bunker,

728
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: his own personal bunker. Well, we got into it because

729
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: I said, he suggested we should go around twice, and

730
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: I said, now just once, I will see we'll see who,

731
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: We'll see who one we did not. All right, enjoy yourself, Greg,

732
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: go ahead. You skipped me to go. You're so excited.

733
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: But because it was coming, it was it was part

734
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: of the natural flow of conversation here. I'm happy for

735
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: the NFC South is the most exciting division in football going.

736
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: And wow, you got the best sell us on your

737
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: best You got the best quarterbacks first of all, the

738
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: best collection of quarterbacks j Miss Winston, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan,

739
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 1: and Cam Newton. You're not gonna find a better one

740
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: to four. One of the most exciting young quarterbacks in

741
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Winston Drew Brees, who played at a higher level I

742
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: think than people realized last year. Ryan certainly needs to

743
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: get better. Cam Newton the m v P all of

744
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: these teams in an interesting spot. Carolina is trying to

745
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: make that leap, not just from being a dominant number

746
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: one seed last year that made the Super Bowl. They're

747
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: trying to get to where the Patriots and the Seahawks.

748
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: You want to throw the Packers in there as one

749
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: of the teams that's great, annual superpower, annual superpower. That's

750
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: where they're trying to get and they've they've got the

751
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: players and the defense to do it. Then you got

752
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans, which I'm starting to feel a comeback from

753
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: the Saints this year, this last this room, I believe

754
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: I'll pick the Saints to win the division. Except me,

755
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: who was wrong? I had the Falcons. All of us

756
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: were by the way I'm saying, I think the Saints

757
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: they got a lot going on. They're an interesting team,

758
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: but they are at a weird spot. They have Sean

759
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: Payton and it feels like a franchise. Along with the

760
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: foul plkins that have been together a while, the front

761
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: office has been there a while. If things don't go

762
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: well for one of these two teams, the whole thing

763
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: could be blown up and it could be as ugly

764
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: as it could be. So there's a lot of pressure

765
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: on those two teams especially, but I think there's a

766
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: lot of talent on those two teams to surprise you.

767
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Then you have the Buccaneers, who you know, we haven't

768
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: spoken a ton about. Just Jamis Winston's presence and the

769
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: young talent there. I think is interesting top to bottom,

770
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: top to bottom. I think that's the most exciting division

771
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: of football this year. Can we go stay in the

772
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: debunker bunker? Whoa debunk Greg's debunking? Wait? Could two guys

773
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: be the debunker bunker debunking each other? Well, there's gonna

774
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: be three of us in here, Like there's gonna be

775
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: some you know, cannibalism or something going on here. I

776
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: feel like Greg's definition of exciting football includes no defense whatsoever.

777
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: That hits Greg hard because he prides himself on loving

778
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: the game both sides. The Carolina Panthers have Kawan Short,

779
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: they have a secondary. Well, I said the most exciting,

780
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: and you don't necessarily have to have three great defenses

781
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: to be excited. I also think there's a lot on

782
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: the line this year for all these teams, and someone's

783
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: gonna get left out, either the Falcon, Saints, Panthers, one

784
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: or two of those teams are gonna be really disappointed.

785
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have some interesting storyline. My problem

786
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: a little bit is that I look over at the

787
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: a f C, and all four divisions to me, are

788
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: more exciting than the NFC South. I accept your point

789
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: that the Panthers are a fascinating team. Oh yeah, the

790
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: NFC South the race to nine wins, but everything worse,

791
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: but we I believe, Which is another thing people could debunk,

792
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: is that the a f C South has a lot

793
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: going on. You're talking about a division with two dome teams,

794
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: and when you watch Tampa Bay on game pass, the

795
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: sunlight on that field is hideous to watch. So it's

796
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: three teams that are an issore television. The Panthers are fascinating.

797
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't dislike a NFC South teams, but that is

798
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: a bit of a stretch. We'll see if you're at

799
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: the first ever sunlight shot. I've mentioned that to West

800
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: that watching the Bucks on game pass are tough because

801
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: it's just an ugly field from the up above angle,

802
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: not to mention their uniforms, which are the worst in

803
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: professional sports. But you've long loved that division and I

804
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: like that you're sticking up for it. Greg. To me,

805
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: it's like to two teams, the Falcons and Saints, or

806
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: the picture of mediocrity in the NFL. Right now, the Buccaneers,

807
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: they've had such aspire to be the picture of right.

808
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: To me, they have great. They have both have been

809
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: really good very recently, and because of that they could

810
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: get you know, Thomas de meat Afica get fired. A

811
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of things have to go right

812
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: for these teams that have nice like the chances of

813
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: a guy losing his job. All right, I'm gonna go

814
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: and I don't want to. I don't want to get

815
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: things up. Well, you're not really on the Ryan Townehill

816
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: bandwagon anymore? Right? Right? Or are you back? He just

817
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: wrote an article saying, well, he was gonna do great

818
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: this year? Are you back on? Now? Oh? That's right.

819
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm not driving it, but I'm in the back. I'm

820
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: in the back seat thinking everything around him. It's solid.

821
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: You're like Oscar's ata Acosta and Hunter S. Thompson's driving,

822
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: and you know, Handsome Hank is gonna get mad at me,

823
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: even though he's overseas right now and maybe not listening

824
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: because he's always saying I'm taking shots to the Dolphins.

825
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: But it's nothing personal. I've I've heard a lot of

826
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton comparisons when talking about Ryan Tannehill this offseason.

827
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: I think you were one of them, Greg Or maybe

828
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: you were the leader there. And you know, I just

829
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: I just read j A. G. I said, listen, I

830
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: had to listen to your dribble about the NFC South,

831
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: so you can listen to mine. Ji said he's looking

832
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: forward to a dominating season from Ryan Tannehill, and I

833
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: get it. Jarvis Landry is a great player in DeVante

834
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: Parker has got plenty of talent. Kenny Stills is useful,

835
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil maybe sled it solidifies that line. But I'm

836
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: and Adam Gaze, of course, now you got better coaching.

837
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: Everybody calmed down though about this, this Ryan Tannehill freedom tour.

838
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: I need to see, just like a lot of this

839
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: room needed to see Andy Dalton get over the hump

840
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: on the other side of this. Now on the other side,

841
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: I need to see Ryan tann will be anything other

842
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: than the seventeenth or eighteenth the best quarterback in the NFL.

843
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people seem to be ready and

844
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: put him in the top ten. It's very generous. Sevent three.

845
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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, what was your shot? You're gonna take him?

846
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: I feel like Mark and Dan have made this segment.

847
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: Let's take a trip to Greg's previous trips to the

848
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: debunking bunker. Because it's not like there's a lot of

849
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: people out there talking up rides and the Dolphins this year.

850
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: That is not conventional wisdom that the Dolphins is gonna

851
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: be Tannahill's buzzy. You don't think he's buzzy, and I

852
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. Well, I think I think it's the

853
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: minute Adam Gaze got attached to Tannehill, you are there

854
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: is that angle to it, over and over there we're

855
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: gonna see an improvement because he finally has good coaching.

856
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's actually true myself. I think Greg

857
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: should take this as an exceptional compliment that he that

858
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: you guys think that he drives that much of the

859
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: discussion he leads the football is in our life like

860
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: sixty hours a week. Of course, I hold his opinions high.

861
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: They're all around here. Marks felt a little personal to

862
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: mind was I didn't even mention his name. I think

863
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: we know. I think we know what happened with with

864
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: the Geno Smith. We had a little interaction downstairs about

865
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: something and then Mark thought, what is what can I

866
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: come up with to come at Greg, that is not

867
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: the best. I did not even use the best. The

868
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: best you could come up with with Geno Smith, which

869
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: isn't even my quarterback. It's a bit at some point

870
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: and it's dance quarterback. Let's let's pull back the curtain

871
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: a little bit here and where this all started, all

872
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: this animosity was that Greg is planning on writing a

873
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: fantasy column at some point this summer, and he was brainstorming, spitballing,

874
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: and throughout their possible name of the column, the Fantasy

875
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Football Outsider, which is the very name of Mark Sessler,

876
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: at least his role when we have our fantasy extravaganza.

877
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: And Mark snapped at Greg over it. Okay, that's accurate. True,

878
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: they're all two points. And then Greg, I'll give you.

879
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: I'll let you come back at me. I won't see

880
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: the word, but number one Fantasy Football Outsider by the

881
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: guy that started Rotor World, got you number two. There

882
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: are like thousands upon thousands of words in the English language,

883
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: and those are the two that you attached together for

884
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: your column. Your turn retorts. The idea behind the column

885
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: was all I was talking about. I have no title

886
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: for the column. I just was throwing it out. I

887
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: wasn't think that that obviously was not going to be

888
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: the title of the column. Once I actually thought about it,

889
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wait, that's Marks. That's Mark segment.

890
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: That's like the the idea. It doesn't even totally make sense.

891
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: You're right, I'll call you know, come up with another

892
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: name for it. But the idea is definitely not making

893
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: the same sort of analysis that you make on your

894
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: fantasy Outsider quite about Debunker bunker, right, It's essentially debunker

895
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: Bunker for fantasy. That's why. That's why this came up

896
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: to begin with. It's kind of like the hot jock

897
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: that's friends friends with like the average Joe, and then

898
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: the average Joe has a crush on like the bookish

899
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: cute girl in the study hall, and the hot jock

900
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: who could have any girl dates the bookish cute girl

901
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: from study hall, and then the normal guys like Brad

902
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: you can have any girl the fantasy outside man. That

903
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: is the perfect analogy. By the way, my part on

904
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: the fantasy s the fantasy shows about eight seconds long,

905
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: so you can know that little tiny little parcel of

906
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: information I'm going to give needs to keep it. That's

907
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: coming up, by the way, the Fantasy Football extravaganza. Oh

908
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: put down the chisels, irish. We just had that in

909
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: the system. Well, you know our plan was, but I

910
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: had to move all these fantastic, high octane Russell Wilson

911
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: quotes on Greg. Are we back in a good place?

912
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: I think we are. We're in a great place. I

913
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: mean the second I said, and I was like, oh,

914
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: that was dude. But I'm obviously not going to call

915
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: my column that. I'm gonna call it some other names.

916
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: I want to put one thing every situation because in

917
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: that case, to Dan got in there and stirred the pot.

918
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: Just like when I didn't mention your name, Dan stirred

919
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: the pots. So there, that's my only word. That are

920
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: very active in your job. That is true. But even

921
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: without Dan's help, there was an edge coming from this. Yeah.

922
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: Usually I'm I'm pouring what I hope is a subtle

923
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: amount of kerosene on the blaze. In that case, I

924
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: literally just said, this is what happened downstairs this morning,

925
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: Well up to watch the world burn. We should have

926
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: had that red light on his desk this morning. All right,

927
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: good side, guys, Wait till where we don't get to

928
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: go around again. We're doing it twice. Yeah, Greg wanted

929
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: to go around round all right, speed round, speed, round.

930
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: Here we go and alright. This idea that Carson Wentz

931
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: is going to sit out for long periods of time,

932
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: We've been through this with multiple rookie quarterbacks. It was

933
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago that Eagles offense corder A

934
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: frank Reich said his aptitude is off the charts. John D. Philippo,

935
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: qub coach, he's further along from seeing the field standpoint,

936
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: and I thought he would be. This is Philadelphia. He's

937
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: the first round pick. If that team is not roaring

938
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: out to a huge star with Sam Bradford, they're not

939
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: gonna sit there with with Carson Wentz red shirting deep

940
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: in November. Nonsense. Still play sooner than anyone thinks like

941
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: this idea that Jeff Janice is gonna like springboard off

942
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: his one flukey playoff performance and become the Packers number

943
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: three receiver. Not buying it one bit. He is he

944
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: is a physically talented but technically deficient wide receiver. You

945
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: can't rely on those guys. The only reason he was

946
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: on the field to catch that bomb is because Davante

947
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: Adams and Time Montgomery were hurt. The Packers coaching staff

948
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: has been and continues to be higher on Davontae Adams

949
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: in Time Montgomery. Even Jeff Janne It wasn't just one

950
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: by the way he got open twice. He had a

951
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving on one possession. But all right, we'll

952
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: see this something strong. People say Rod doesn't trust him

953
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. Everyone this is a little fantasy football teaser,

954
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of talk. He's saying, take me number one.

955
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Everybody said, oh, we gotta take him top three. I'd

956
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: say pump the brakes a little bit on Todd Gurley.

957
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: He might be on a truly terrible offense. And I

958
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: don't know if, especially if Jared Goff has a long

959
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: way to go, and we know Jeff Fisher is not

960
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: the most gifted offensive mind in the game. There is

961
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: a chance that Todd Gurley is talented as he is,

962
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: gets stuck behind a truly wretched offense. And this has

963
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: to be pushed back a year before he becomes Todd

964
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: Gurley all Pro m v p Endemy Young offensive line.

965
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: It is a great test because I think his talent

966
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: is so exceptional. Can he overcome they don't haven't really

967
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 1: have wide receivers. They don't they don't have a great

968
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: dominant line. I haven't invested a lot in the line.

969
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: We have not heard. We talked. I don't know if

970
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: we can say who it was, but we heard some

971
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: negative things about Goff's development and through the spring that

972
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: they might throw him into the fire when he's not

973
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: ready and that could go Ryan Leaf bad. I'm just saying, Wow,

974
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: Gurley was the first in back, but just that these

975
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: come after me. He's going to be put into the

976
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: game before he has he should be in the game,

977
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: and it could hurt his development. So if if any

978
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: of our social department is listening, exactly equals Leaf dot

979
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: Dan Handen, Uh Girley the first running back taking in

980
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: my draft. The second one Melvin Gordon, And I'm telling you,

981
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: if you're out there, Spice Rack, don't give up on

982
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: this guy. I think Melvin Gordon is gonna come back

983
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: in his second year and he's gonna be strong. Might

984
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: not be the best running back in the league, but

985
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: he's a good running back. I think their offensive line,

986
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: with its absolutely terrible last year, is looking pretty good

987
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: on paper. If they're healthy. I think they're a good

988
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: looking offensive line, a good passing game. I think Melvin

989
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: Gordon is not gonna be the best running back in league,

990
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: but he's gonna get over a thousand yards. He's gonna

991
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: be a good player, and he showed some of that

992
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: if you really watched him running hard towards the end

993
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: of last season. All right, there you go, let's all

994
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: exit the debunker bunker. Good work, guys. That got a

995
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: little Harry in there. I'm not gonna say feelings are heard,

996
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: but it got pretty intense. Uh, cathartic. It was cathartic.

997
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: We all came out of it with a better understanding

998
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: where we were as people, and we shared some opinions. Um,

999
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: that's it for Thursday's edition of The Round the NFL Podcast.

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00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: We will be back Monday. Three shows next week with

1001
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: training camp. With training camp starts next week. It starts

1002
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: next week. Training camp starts on NFL Network. By the way,

1003
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: check that and Wednesday. I think it gets crank and

1004
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: so Wednesday. So we've reached the end of the dark

1005
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: period and that means we are back to work in

1006
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: a full time capacity. So make sure you check it out. Monday.

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00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: Uh check us out at NFL dot com Slash Podcast.

1008
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Speaker 1: Go to the iTunes uh page and leave reviews and

1009
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: uh start high star ratings. Give us the support. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: leave the reviews. The review number. Overall, we gotta get

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Speaker 1: it into the quadruple digits. It's in the nine hundreds somewhere.

1012
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: Almost embarrassing not to be in the quadruple digits. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it. iTunes challenge. Help us out, everybody. Uh, that's it.

1014
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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansis signing off for Quiet Storm not

1015
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: so Quiet Today. The mailman, the boss, and the Irishman

1016
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: behind the glass tell him one day it's fantasy for you,

1017
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: It's really fantasy. You'll be the judge. I am your church.

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Speaker 1: I say the future is ours.