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Speaker 1: Oh Joe.

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Speaker 2: During OTAs this week, aj Brown admitted surprise at its

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Speaker 2: current mindset coming into the league. We're taught we're playing

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Speaker 2: for this reason, We're playing for the trophy, and once

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Speaker 2: we got the trophy, it was just like I thought

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Speaker 2: everything would be fulfilled, like the hard work and everything.

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Speaker 2: But no, it's a journey. It's the journey that matters

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Speaker 2: the most, that means the most, because those are the

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Speaker 2: moments you look back with your teammates. Those are spending

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Speaker 2: time with you, going to war with You're suffering together,

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Speaker 2: you're winning together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean once you look, I wanted to be

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Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl player. Yeah, I want to build all

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Speaker 2: an All Pro player, and I wanted to win a championship.

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Speaker 1: I ain't thinking about no Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: I ain't even realize the Hall of Fame until Mark

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Speaker 2: Kinsler told me in ninety six. Like man, He's like, bro,

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Speaker 2: you could put together a couple more years, you can

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Speaker 2: go to the Hall of Fame. I'm like, what, I like,

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Speaker 2: they take seventh of rounders in the Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: It's like it don't matter where you get drafted, and

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Speaker 2: they go by production.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that was.

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Speaker 2: The first time that I had really even gave a

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Speaker 2: thought now mind you, Ohoe. In ninety one we played

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame game. I went to that

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Speaker 2: very building that my bus resides in, not even thinking. Man,

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Speaker 2: it never even done. Bro, I'm from Glenville, I'm from

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Speaker 2: Savannah State Hall of Fame. Yeah, and Joe Green in

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame by Terry Bradshaw Rogers Stallbach. The

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Speaker 2: greats are the greats in the Hall of Fame legends. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but you realize and it's not good enough to make

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Speaker 2: one Pro Bowl because hell, anybody can do it once.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can you go back when they know you the guy,

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Speaker 2: when they game plan for your ass? Can you get

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Speaker 2: can you become an All pro again when they game

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Speaker 2: planning for you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: When you walk to the middle of field, man, hell

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Speaker 2: of a game, shark man. O Joe, Hey man, you

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Speaker 2: gave us that work today. O. Yo, A, don't worrybody,

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Speaker 2: We'll see your ass again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's what I want. I want where y'all going

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Speaker 1: to meeting on Wednesday. I want you on the.

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Speaker 2: Circle to a that tight end of eighty four. We

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Speaker 2: got to deal with him. And I totally agree with

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Speaker 2: AJ because there's nothing like. That's what you ojo. I

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Speaker 2: never missed the game. I missed the bus rides, the

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Speaker 2: plane rides, the bull drive it in the locker room,

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Speaker 2: in the training room joking and you know, meeting room

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Speaker 2: cracking joke. That's what you because that's what you're never

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Speaker 2: gonna be able to replace. Ever, you never, you never,

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Speaker 2: and you look you're not best east with everybody, but

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna be around ten eleven guys that y'all

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Speaker 2: laughing at joking back.

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Speaker 1: You're never gonna be like that again. It's never gonna

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Speaker 1: be like that again. Oo, No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: And listen and just but what you just talked about about,

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown, I've become a little bit more fond of

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Speaker 3: young boy man as of late, hearing some of the

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Speaker 3: things he's talked about, not going to get into detail

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Speaker 3: on it, but his perspective on life and other and

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Speaker 3: other optics that I've seen him speak on, and he's

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Speaker 3: becoming a huge, huge, huge favorite of mine.

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Speaker 4: Not even the receiver A. J.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the human being, the person, the husband.

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Speaker 3: The person he is, and values and morals in which

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Speaker 3: he stands and said, I never knew that about him.

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Speaker 3: I never knew it about him because I've never had

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to interact with him outside of the game

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Speaker 3: of football. But hearing him and where he stands, you know,

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Speaker 3: and in his beliefs, the very very very admirable from

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Speaker 3: the outside looking in on on on what I thought

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Speaker 3: off the field. Dude, I love dude, man. I love

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Speaker 3: he real sharp yah, and he got a sharp mind.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: So it was a joy to see him in a

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Speaker 3: Than what I expected based on the football player that

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Speaker 2: M h. I mean, I remember we won the Super

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Speaker 2: we broke the NFC. The NFC had run fourteen straight

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Speaker 2: Super bowls, oh shoe. And to win it and to

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Speaker 2: to have the confetti come down to your colors and

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Speaker 2: you got the trophy. Now, think about how many times

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Speaker 2: I've seen the Super Bowl winning team go on the

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Speaker 2: field and get that trophy and everybody's looking at it.

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Speaker 1: Now I finally have it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A small kid from Glennville, Georgia, went to Savannah

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Speaker 2: in glimmer and say, you know what, I know somebody

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Speaker 2: actually played in the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: I probably went to school with him, his brother or

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Speaker 1: That was me and winning that trophy there was.

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Speaker 2: That was that was like that was that was at

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Speaker 2: that point in time, probably the crowning achievement of my career.

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Speaker 2: And I remember going into the off season and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: so I think I think the Super Bowl was damn

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Speaker 2: to OTA's and Mike got up in there like, hey, congratulations, guys,

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Speaker 2: I'm proud of this. I'm proud of you guys. He said,

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Speaker 2: if you want to be special, you got to do

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Speaker 2: do it again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of teams that won win in a row. He said,

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Speaker 2: you want to be remembered. We got to go back

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Speaker 2: to back. And that was the mindset that we adopted.

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Speaker 2: And I remember once to see we came out of

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Speaker 2: And Mike would put one like most teams have their

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Speaker 2: schedule up there, all sixteen games, right, we put one

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Speaker 2: game at a time. He said, this is a sixteen

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Speaker 2: going down, just check it out, just checking them off,

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Speaker 2: checking them off for Joe, checking them off. Thirteen weeks

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Speaker 2: because think about it, we won our last last game, no, yeah,

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Speaker 2: when our last two games ninety seven, Yeah, when our

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. Then we come out, so we

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Speaker 2: win like eighteen straight games. Oh Joe feeling good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: get to the playoffs. But I agree with everything he said.

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Speaker 2: There's something about that moment. And when I get on

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Speaker 2: the phone and I talked to Burns or men Ross

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Speaker 2: Smith call them foots, feed some of them guys, and man,

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Speaker 2: we just hey, man, you repersentch And so we're at

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Speaker 2: the back of the playe. I mean, very few times, Ojo,

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Speaker 2: do we ever talk about the super Bowl game itself.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about going to the game. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: Very seldom do we mention anything about the super Bowl itself.

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Speaker 2: We always talk about the plane ride or man, you

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Speaker 2: remember we got a man we got snowed in and

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Speaker 2: we had to go get people on snowmobiles to go

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Speaker 2: to Buffalo. We get to Buffalo like one thirty two

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Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning and we got a one o'clock game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: bab bet, that was so much fun. Ain't nothing like

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Speaker 2: that and nothing like that. And then when you're in it, Ojo, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't get to enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: You don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't because you're in it and you feel if

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Speaker 2: you enjoy it, it's going to take you out of

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Speaker 2: that mindset of what you need to do to make

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Speaker 1: So man, ain't nothing like that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, aj Brown said he's also upset about the current

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Speaker 2: hair haircut prices in the country. Haircut prices are crazy nowadays.

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Speaker 2: I used to pay twenty dollars for a cut, ay,

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Speaker 2: j ain't no more twenty dollars cut, but we I

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Speaker 2: used to pay five two fitty hey when I but

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Speaker 2: you got to realize on you, I'll get a haircut

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Speaker 2: in the seventies and my brother my grandfather get mad

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Speaker 2: and my brother, you know, four dollars two to five dollars. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we get both of us get a haircut in college.

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Speaker 2: That's all you're giving you a teammate. And now wish'all

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Speaker 2: would play a guy five dollars to cut my hair?

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Speaker 1: They please?

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Speaker 4: What times are different?

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Speaker 1: Brock? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Man, oh Joe, look, I ain't got no problem, you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: good sixty dollars for a cut. I would go ahead

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Speaker 2: tip your forty, oh Joe, dude, be they be wanting

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Speaker 2: two hundred three hundred.

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Speaker 1: To cut me.

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Speaker 4: Man, listen, it's listen.

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Speaker 2: Shot fifteen dollars for apart boy, you know, hold on

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Speaker 2: you talking about that haircut.

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Speaker 3: Twenty dollars, boy to stay said the grocery at the

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Speaker 3: grocery store, what forty?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you well guess what how much are there

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Speaker 2: in the restaurant? Seventy dollars? So at least you got two.

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Speaker 4: Hey, they got to make their money up some kind

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Speaker 4: of way.

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Speaker 2: They ain't got to look, mar you look look a

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Speaker 2: lot of times, a lot of times. What happened, o Joe?

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Speaker 2: Is that if that, if if barbers cut athletes, celevet

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Speaker 2: and entertainers, they want to live that lifestyle. Well, bro,

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Speaker 2: you need you need to play, pick up, a play

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Speaker 2: a sport, You need to act, play an instrument, or dance,

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Speaker 2: sing or something, because you not finna come up on me. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I grow dreds first, I grow dred I get twists,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not paying no three, no cut I don't

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Speaker 2: care if I got twenty thirty fifty sixty million, I'm

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Speaker 2: not paying no three, no cutout, Joe, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot, but just a cut that listen, that's

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Now what we can say is is about our but

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Speaker 3: our our friend not too long ago. Who's down here, mammy,

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Speaker 3: Not that kind of service. Yes, I forgot, I forgot,

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Speaker 3: I forgot an Instagram name. But for that kind of service, yeah,

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars. Now be talking, you can talk. Oh yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: If you will cut it, you will die it. You

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Speaker 3: will give me a facial.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now that I understand.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna get that every time, right, not

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Speaker 3: at the time, but every so often.

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Speaker 4: You know, you got your nice little date night with

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Speaker 4: Now you're good man.

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Speaker 2: Please, man, you think I'm gonna let you gonna be

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Speaker 2: I think you're like forty five fifty ocs of hair?

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Speaker 1: For the whole year. God damn paid the whole year.

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Speaker 2: Because guess what, o Joe, when I say, when I say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I want my time, them will have to move somebody

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Speaker 1: Me to get somebody else in.

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Speaker 4: Hey why are you hey?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I always did that?

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Speaker 4: Are you you complaining about me?

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Speaker 3: Fifty two hundred and you paying for nails, manicures and headcuts?

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Speaker 1: They provide the service. What you doing?

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Speaker 2: I told him, I said I would. I told them, brob,

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Speaker 2: I would pay you money. But oh, you old me

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Speaker 1: Can't pay you.

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Speaker 4: I ain't never heard nobody do that by you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you day o your check this out. I remember

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Speaker 2: I paid. I had ran out because I get like.

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Speaker 2: So I got this package, and that lady runs a

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Speaker 2: give you fifteen. I bought the package, got the job

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Speaker 2: at Foughts. I still got some of the books. I

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, But I like that. I like a

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Speaker 2: we're not going We're gonna get my massage Monday. I

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Speaker 2: should get massages Monday, No, Wednesday and Friday. That's what

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like no what I like. I like structure. I

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Speaker 2: I've already paid you for this time, so hey, don't

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Speaker 2: Come at two forty five, where you know my appointments

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Speaker 2: at three, Because I'm gonna feel some type of way.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be siding. We previously spoke about the reports

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Speaker 2: Scary Terry is not attending Commander's mini camp. All these

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Speaker 2: They're all mandatory, OJO. I would just sit you. Wish

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Speaker 2: you're in.

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Speaker 1: Don't get that money, don't get his money.

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Speaker 4: Can I tell you how you're gonna get his money.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, yeah, I'm gonna tell you how

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Speaker 4: you're gonna get his money.

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Speaker 1: How you gonna get it?

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Speaker 4: Shoot, Jade Damn can go up there?

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Speaker 1: Hello?

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Speaker 4: Who is it in? Jayden? I need my number one quarterback,

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Speaker 4: I need my captain.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,

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Speaker 3: but I know what I need on my end.

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Speaker 4: I need Scary Terry to get that money.

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Speaker 3: So I had that that that safety that so I

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Speaker 3: up the film from last year. I don't understand what

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Speaker 4: Be all right.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna yeah this year, next year, after next year,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna come see you too. And uh, if I

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Speaker 2: it's going. So I'm about I'm trying to get sixty two. Damn,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get hold on. I tried to get Josh.

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Speaker 1: Number sixty two.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen would have signed two years. I'm two years

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Speaker 2: after Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep the market going. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: how much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full

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Speaker 2: of guaranteed? I'll tell you what you ain't gotta give me.

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Speaker 2: You ain't got to give me for three hundred, make

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Speaker 2: How much is full of guaranteed? Two fifty, he got

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Speaker 2: a quarter billy, he got two fifty full of guaranteed. Okay, boom,

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Speaker 2: that's me so six years, three thirty. I don't really

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Speaker 2: care nothing about that. Tell me how much if it floods,

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Speaker 2: I don't care. Tell me what I'm gonna beat, what

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get. So guess what by that time on

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Speaker 2: Joe two seventy five, that gonna be the go al?

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Speaker 1: Right two seventy.

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Speaker 3: Five, Hey, so Dextroud be in that in that ballpark too,

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Speaker 3: then your.

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Speaker 1: Stride up there after the sheets.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely yes, and you better hold pat you Mahome, don't

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Speaker 2: do say you know what, I'm tired. All these jokes

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Speaker 2: make it more than me give me my true value.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: It he know saying he's made it abundantly clear. He's like,

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Speaker 2: he's doing great with money. They've done great by him.

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Speaker 2: He's like, look, I'm just trying to keep this team

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Speaker 2: good players around me.

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Speaker 1: All my Tom Brady as I possibly can.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and plus the money that I make off the

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Speaker 3: And it makes up for what he's not gonna make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing is, Oh Joe, when you

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Speaker 2: look at it, my home boy, he's.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be like Brady.

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Speaker 2: Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not

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Speaker 2: then Matthew Stafford's at three ninety one. Tom Brady way

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Speaker 2: important thing was rings. It wasn't money. Because Tom realized

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Speaker 2: Now he's making thirty five million to thirty seven million

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Speaker 1: For ten years, so he good.

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Speaker 2: So he said, now, now look, I give y'all something

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Speaker 1: I want to see the dude that's gonna catch me

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Speaker 1: with these rings. Who's gonna get eight, who gonna get seven?

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Speaker 2: Who gonna get six While we're talking about it, I'm

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Speaker 2: already there. I'm in the clubhouse, he said. Look, I've

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Speaker 2: already shot under par I'm in the clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: Come catch me. Damn so god, damn tears.

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Speaker 2: Like Look, bro, I have been to the Pro Bowls

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what else y'all want me to do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else I need to do to

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Speaker 4: Your situation is different. He's gonna get his money.

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Speaker 3: It's just about being patient and the timing of when

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Speaker 4: Miss mini camp to make sure you're working out before

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Speaker 3: Start, maybe before training camp. You don't want to miss

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Speaker 1: Don't do that.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure that.

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Speaker 3: The organization understands you're going in a different direction. You're

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Speaker 3: going in a different directions. You had a phenomenal season

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Speaker 3: last year. You got things off, you got things off

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Speaker 3: to a great start. Don't don't eff it up. Don't

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Speaker 3: eff it up, don't piss off the fans. You had

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach Reggie

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Speaker 2: a possible interim head coach if Shane Steichen struggles to

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Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, I like it. You don't like it?

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Speaker 2: Now here's the thing you know they're under you know,

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Speaker 2: Jim ursay rest is soul mister passed away a month ago.

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Speaker 2: His three daughters took over. I think it's oldest, oldest daughter.

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Speaker 2: Although they all have roles, she is the majority. She

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Speaker 2: the NFL wants that be one voice. They want one

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Speaker 2: She's the you know, the oldest, and I guess he

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Speaker 2: you know, put it in a situation where okay, you

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Speaker 1: To go accordingly, but.

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Speaker 2: Got to be very very interesting because it's one thing,

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Speaker 2: like damn, all of a sudden, we're thrust into this

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Speaker 2: six years old, Joe, you want to kind of understand it.

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Speaker 2: But your first year, you got to make that decision.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, they've been around the game. Though, they've

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Speaker 4: Listen, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: Who made the call or who made the decision when

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Speaker 3: Jeff Saturday got.

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Speaker 4: The opportunity, Jim Mercy your mercy.

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Speaker 3: understands the culture and and what what not all the fans,

440
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 3: but what that organization needs to get Indy back to

441
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 3: their winning ways.

442
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

443
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, oh, Joe, you have to understand,

444
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: Jim Mersey had a personal relationship with Jeff Saturday.

445
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: They're just even.

446
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: Though they're around, they don't have the same type of relationships.

447
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: They haven't developed that. And it's different male female, you

448
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying on Joe. So going out, you know,

449
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: mister Ersa, going out and drinking with with with Saturday

450
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: and some of the guys is one thing. That's not

451
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: what they're gonna do. They're not gonna have that same

452
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: dynamic as their father had. And so that's what you know.

453
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: I don't wish I don't want Shane stinking. I don't

454
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: want him the man to lose his job. But I mean,

455
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: this is a situation they're just saying. They're just throwing

456
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: stuff up, like what if he eats struggles.

457
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Yeah, Shane gonna be okay.

458
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 3: Him losing your job is all predicated on how the

459
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: quarterback play is. Yessen the quarterback players, That's all it

460
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: comes down to. That's the idamn want to call it

461
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: the elephant in the room, but that's the guy damn

462
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: elephant in the room. How well is a quarterback player

463
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: gonna play? Because if the quarterback play is bad, he's

464
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: gonna get you fired.

465
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: That's what happens.

466
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: And sometimes they play just good enough to get themselves,

467
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: get the coach fired, and them cut self cut. That's

468
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: where rich Rich used to tell us Richard Smothe with

469
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: our special teams coach, He say, Son, you play just

470
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: well enough to get me cut and you fired. M

471
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: MAL Football release their top ten receivers in the two thousands.

472
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: Number one, Randy Moss, number two, t O number three,

473
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison number four, Big Game, Tory Holt number five.

474
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 4: The Greatest Entertainment of all time.

475
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: Chad o Jo Seko Johnson number six, Hyde's Ward number seven,

476
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: Steve Smith Sr. Number eight, Reggie Wayne number nine, reverendni

477
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: Isaac Bruce number ten, and Kwan Boulder.

478
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: God hold on? Why yet? The hold on? What? Who

479
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: wh wh whoa whoa whoa whoa what?

480
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: Lafe is Gerald yeap listen now Calvin Johnson hold on.

481
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: And there was an argument about this earlier, earlier all

482
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: day on Twitter, obviously on my timeline, because I said,

483
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: the hell if that take me out and put Andre

484
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: Johnson now. They also, I love, I love Van Corna

485
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: what he did for the game, but as something Calvin

486
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: Johnson has to be on there somewhere as well.

487
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: What about laughing Gerald, he just got the third most

488
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: catching the football lady.

489
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: For Gerald has to be there as well. But then

490
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: people said it's the two thousands. So the two thousands,

491
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: I think Mega Tron only got maybe three years because

492
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: I think he came in and I forgot what year

493
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: he got drafted. I think he came in he only

494
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: had three years of.

495
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: How many years?

496
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: How many years are who the years? Was a laughist

497
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: year behind An Kwan because I think I think I

498
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: think Fitz was like one year behind and Kwan.

499
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's it's a mother ship. Derek Mason,

500
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: Derek Derek Mason should be on there too.

501
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: Now I don't think people understand d ma's.

502
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: Putting some work man. What of that man?

503
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: Julio Jones, you're talking about two thousands though Jo and

504
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: Kwan was two thousand and three.

505
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: Then what you're saying Julio won in two thousand. I

506
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: think no, Julio.

507
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: Came into twenty twenty him and aj Green.

508
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah ah.

509
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 4: Ah mm hmm, yeah, I like it. I like it.

510
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 4: I should have I should have been higher though, I

511
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: should matter.

512
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: Okay, who you who you? Who are you replacing you?

513
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: Replacing mass t o uh, Marvin or Tory.

514
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 4: Holt like just off entertainment a loan. I'm number one.

515
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: Who you were taking out?

516
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put I just told you so.

517
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna put you in.

518
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 3: You know when when we talk about numerical order, right,

519
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: doesn't everything start with zero?

520
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: No, it starts with one.

521
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: Okay, but before one is zero?

522
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Who zero is at ZrO You ain't zero, don't want

523
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: to be.

524
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: Zero, so it's me then then t O, then mass

525
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: then whatever order you want to do.

526
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You know zero is the negative number, right, Listen.

527
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: I was.

528
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: I was go have a quick comeback, but I missed it.

529
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet you, I bet you want to be

530
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: so if we ate, so we gotta take we're gonna

531
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: take our Hell no.

532
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: Hed boy, we ain't taking off your floor.

533
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: That's why.

534
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: That's why, Hey, listen, I specifically said entertainment and fun

535
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: value only.

536
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: I'm I'm mad at time.

537
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: That's it, but that's hey, that was a good list.

538
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate enough that I was. I saw all

539
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 2: these guys. That's all these guys, Randy, t O, Marvin

540
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: played against Randy. I never played against t O, played

541
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: against Marvin played against Hope played against O Joe.

542
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: He he what hands on it? What hands on? When

543
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: times get hands?

544
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: Was on that team in ninety eight, Hey, I know

545
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: he's on that team in two thousand.

546
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: Tell Joe what I did, y'all? And we played, y'all.

547
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: That's why I was the name. Nothing lost? How long?

548
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: Who had a big game?

549
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 4: What I did? I did y'all when we played, y'all.

550
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't there in Baltimore.

551
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all what I did to you?

552
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: I think I think you might have had like three

553
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: and how many TVs? How many catches?

554
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: Oh you're having two thousand and one against because we

555
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: beat the Heller?

556
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, pull them numbers up.

557
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 4: Ash.

558
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't no, honey, that's for sure.

559
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: Dout what that was my rookie year.

560
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: That's okay. You learned that talking like you had two?

561
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: I bet how much I had? Ask how much I had?

562
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: What do you have? Ash? Fifty five? Sixty? Young?

563
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: I had about by two thirty?

564
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: No, he didn't play in the Baltimore game.

565
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you might have called a touchdown against

566
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: us in two thousand.

567
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: I sure did. That's what I would do. I catch it.

568
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: That was at Denver then, but we beat hell at y'all?

569
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: Are you were gone?

570
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you had seven targets, three catches for twenty

571
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: eight yards against us?

572
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: What I have? What I have?

573
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: As hey? That boy was skating out there? Huh?

574
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: What against Baltimore? Oh Joe, you do realize, Oh Joe,

575
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: you didn't. Y'all didn't even score. It was zero. Y'all

576
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: had zero again since you like zeros, y'all had on

577
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: ye this was two thousand and one. Yep, seven targets,

578
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: three catches, twenty eight yards.

579
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: What I have? I do? I have mere tub? Sweet

580
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: to happen to the other five catches?

581
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: I ain't catch them?

582
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: Well, first of all you had that was four targets.

583
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: I mean because I said you had seven targets. You

584
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: had three catches, so it wasn't five. You in math

585
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: didn't do too good. That was four you didn't catch.

586
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: No. No, I ain't dropped no ball. Now that's one

587
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: thing I ain't do. I ain't dropped the money. I

588
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: ain't dropped the money. My head on my hands was

589
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: like glue.

590
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: You hit me at a tub? Oh I scored in

591
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: two thousand and one. Oh, that was two thousand oh

592
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I had three targets, three catches thirty two yards ago.

593
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: You see the difference, three targets, three catches.

594
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: Well, you play, hold on, hold on. You gotta understand

595
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 3: what defense I was going against. This was the Baltimore Ravens.

596
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: Man like, I ain't really, I ain't really get y'all skared.

597
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: No, No, you didn't. You didn't. You didn't get in

598
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: the two thousand based Ravens defense. You got the old

599
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: one defense. Y'all missing too many pieces?

600
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: Man, y'all wasn't missing too many?

601
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Oh what did he do? What he do the second time?

602
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: Because that was the home game? I think there? What

603
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: do you doing? Because I think he had a touchdown?

604
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: He might have had a touchdown the second time.

605
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: Every time I play all them and score, Now, that's

606
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do.

607
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: No, you didn't. You had little twenty eight means of

608
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: the yards. You ain't even average.

609
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: The first down came my rookie year. They were just

610
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: introducing me to y'all. You know, when your first meet somebody, Joe,

611
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: they didn't want to get They don't.

612
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: Want to put me out, Oh Joe. The first time

613
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: y'all played, you had one target, no catchers.

614
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: Dah, that's it.

615
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: Oh you know what, because see that's my rookie year,

616
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: so they ain't really introduce me to y'all.

617
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: Oh that was the second time. That WASNTI we're having

618
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: that game?

619
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: What happened?

620
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: What I did?

621
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: What I did?

622
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, eight?

623
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: I had twelve targets, eight catches. Eight You had one target,

624
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: no catches?

625
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: You out there?

626
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: He was out there bullgiving Hey, well year, what year

627
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: was that? Two thousand and one? The year you asked

628
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: my rookie year?

629
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: What got to do?

630
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: What I did after that?

631
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: Though?

632
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: What I did after I don't know.

633
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I was in Denver. Now you want

634
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: to say what we did in different We played y'll

635
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two. Well, yeah, I know, I know,

636
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: I know you lost.

637
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: I did know. I know that. I don't know what

638
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: the numbers, but.

639
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: You lost women numbers look like, asked what I did

640
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 4: to Denver?

641
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got a touchdown?

642
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: What I do? I cast touchdowns? But we beat y'all.

643
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: Okay, we talked about from an individual standpoint, I can't

644
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: control I can't control the team.

645
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: No regular season we played in two thousand and three.

646
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what I did then what I did then,

647
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: because Hey, by the time two thousand and three came, Joe,

648
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: like I had fully arrived, Like I was like.

649
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: A knocked Okay, what was it? What do you do?

650
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: Because that was car I think that that was carsonly

651
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: your Carson with drafted. Hey, hey, what year did you

652
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: change your name though? Too?

653
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: I think maybe two thousand and seven. I just wanted to.

654
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: If you'd played the Baltimore Ravens in two thousand we

655
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: made him change it back.

656
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, listen, I changed my name simply for marketing

657
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: and branding purposes only.

658
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: That's all.

659
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: Two three, Oh, Joe, you had ten targets, six catches,

660
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: ninety five yards of a touchdown.

661
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: That was me. That was all right? What was what

662
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: was what happened was to go.

663
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: Ash thirty to ten was to score.

664
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: Bus stopped.

665
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 4: So I was the only one that scored.

666
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Yes, And it was late in the game when you scored.

667
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: It don't matter how long was that gut in there?

668
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: Sometimes you listen. Sometimes, sometimes you gotta. When you go

669
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: on a date, sometimes you don't. You know, you get

670
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: the first base, sometime you get the second.

671
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: It was, Hey, Joe, I don't want to tell nobody

672
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: but we had to call the dollars off. He scored

673
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: with a minute left in the ball that was still throwing.

674
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: He ain't had no choice but to throw.

675
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what you had.

676
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: You had a choice, you had four quarters and you

677
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: had time to do something before the end.

678
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: We beat the brakes on. Oh, Joe, you still celebrated

679
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: on that one.

680
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, no, listen.

681
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: One thing I always did, Joe, is I never celebrated,

682
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: never did a celebration if you were losing, and only

683
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: if we were to tie the game, or we scored.

684
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: First, or was it to go up. Yeah, yeah, I

685
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: ain't played like that.

686
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: Well, you ain't do no celebrating against on the teams.

687
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: I was on that Ojo, Man, you're lucky.

688
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 4: Listen, you lucky.

689
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: We didn't cross path like at the same time like

690
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: you would use on the back end and I were

691
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: coming in.

692
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: If I play during your era like during man, I

693
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 4: would have sought your ass up.

694
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Boy Oo.

695
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm good for having tubs against Cincinnati.

696
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: Kell.

697
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: You have to understand, you have to understand.

698
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: We played well two thousand, dropped two, and what we

699
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 2: do in two thousands before you got there?

700
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Oo. Then before you got there. We beat the break.

701
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: You have to understand how bad Cincinnati was back then.

702
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: Understand that, Joe, that that's not fair. So with your

703
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: defense still suspect. I mean, y'all got some great offensive

704
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: players with Joe and Chase and Higgins, but.

705
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: That defense is.

706
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: Damn only had one cast though, damn.

707
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh my bad, oh Joe, we beat y'all thirty seven zero.

708
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: In two thousand, I scored twice.

709
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: I scored twice. Already know that I don't like that.

710
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I'm most Daryl Williams.

711
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: He will hey, hey, Dan will get hit boy.

712
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: Not me.

713
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: He talking me in the n z on he had

714
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: the smelled the odorant. Though, I'll make a smell to

715
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: the owneran Joe, They're gonna smell to the Orneran got

716
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: the reference, gonna do that. I had my four catcher.

717
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: I had about four catches about fifty yard two tubs

718
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: man not asistent that in two thousand. No, you talking

719
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: about I'm just the first game I gona touch down.

720
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: The first game, hit him with like a two yard harder.

721
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, the game in Cincinnati, the thirty seven nothing, that's

722
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: when it knocked the Keilly Smith. That's when Robert Nette

723
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: hit a Kelley Smith and knocked him out.

724
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: Of the game. Y'all about have had like forty yards

725
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: that game? The hell you say?

726
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: I called two touchdowns that game in two thousand. I

727
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: did play. Yeah it is it is in two thousand. Yeah,

728
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: let me let me go, Lord have mercy see what

729
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: I said and try to shortchange me my numbers? Joke,

730
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: I ain't played. That's what I think I'm gonna know.

731
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: Uh Ravens.

732
00:35:50,640 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: M hm, okay, what is get them right? Man? Let

733
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: them know?

734
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, ad tried to short change me. We beat them

735
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: twenty seven seven no, no, no, no, Shenon sharp seven

736
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: for sixty sixty six and two touchdowns against who the Ravens.

737
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: I ain't play, y'all. In two thousand that was. That's when,

738
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, that's when Cory Dillon Ramps

739
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: broke the record against the Broncos. He ran for two

740
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: seventy five to seventy six, because the record was Walt

741
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: to Peyton to seventy five. Who broke OJ's record like

742
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: two seventy three? Yeah, but don't worry about it, old Joe, Hey,

743
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: what hey?

744
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: I was that boy?

745
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: But Joe you missed it.

746
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: Saint Kwan Barkley's iconic reverse hurdle is the cover of

747
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: the Madden NFL.

748
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: That's why I mean, Phil this is the sick hold on.

749
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: This is the second straight year a running back has

750
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: been on the cover, Christian McCaffrey being the athlete on

751
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: Madden NFL twenty five that sparked the debate of the

752
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: infamous Madden curse once more.

753
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

754
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: This is the first time a member of the Jacksonville

755
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: Jag has been on the cover of a Madden I'll

756
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: bet as a person being hurdled.

757
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: Damn hey, the person getting hurdle, he he got to

758
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: be upset about that.

759
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 4: Boy, he got to be upset about Oh.

760
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he immortalized. He made it.

761
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: That's like that Jordan push off o Joe Russell.

762
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to push off. He just he just

763
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 4: guided him a little bit out of the way.

764
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: Well he only head that that's what he guided him.

765
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: That's what elb it is it is.

766
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: I just left this place just we were at Geno

767
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 3: State to night and they turned it into ste Kun

768
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: uh Chief Steak.

769
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 4: It was really really, really really dope. Uh.

770
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: Event I was able to congratulate Saquon On being the

771
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 3: cover athlete, and we talked about the Madden Curse.

772
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: Josh Allen was on the cover, didn't get hurt. Win

773
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: not not too long ago, John a couple.

774
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Of years ago.

775
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: He didn't get hurt.

776
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: Pastor Mahome was on the cover previously, he didn't get hurt.

777
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: So I think sa Quon is safe.

778
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: Uh.

779
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: There have been players that have that have had small injuries,

780
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: nothing to where they missed a lot of time. So

781
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: I think we got to do it with the whole

782
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: Madden Curse thing. And Saquan is the one that takes

783
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 3: care of his body, doesn't really get hurt much.

784
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 4: He has in the past, but recently hasn't been hurt.

785
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be all right, And I honestly

786
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: think there's a good chance.

787
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 4: That they might repeat.

788
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: But being at the commanders have gotten better, being that

789
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 3: Dallas has gotten better, you know, obviously adding George Pickings,

790
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm from an offensive standpoint, I'm not.

791
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: Sure how they would look defensively. I'm excited.

792
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what that NFC NFC West looked like.

793
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Man.

794
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: Oh, Jo y'all was good. God, y'all was terrible. Oh ya,

795
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: y'all had one hundred and seventy four total yards.

796
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: That game was at.

797
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 4: That's what they want throwing me the ball.

798
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: You wasn't even there.

799
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I wasn't there yet.

800
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: You better be glad you were.

801
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 4: If I was, if the downcome would have been different.

802
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: I can tell you that.

803
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: YA used to be raising hell when that ball don't

804
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: come your way.

805
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: I think I might have maybe two instances like that one.

806
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: It was a playoff game. We were playing the Steelers.

807
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: When Carson went down, I was very frustrated. So you

808
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: have to get your production from somewhere when a quarterback

809
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: of that magnitude playbook. The playbook changes significantly when the

810
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: second quarterback comes in. So at that point, now I'm

811
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: feeling put me in positions to make up for not

812
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: having him in, and we weren't able to do that

813
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 3: because we were playing the Steelers, and the Steelers that year,

814
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: that five year, that defense, that defense.

815
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 4: Joe, Oh my god.

816
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: So I just wanted to be I wanted him to

817
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: stop allowing them to dictate what we want to do.

818
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: Let's dictate it, y'all will go do nothing.

819
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: So outside of that, I was really frustrated. Joe uh

820
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: that that was one time and it was another time. Oh,

821
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: same game, Joe, I got I got mad in the

822
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: same game.

823
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: Where well that that was the one you were acting to.

824
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: Fooling and a lot of what I just told you. Yeah, hey, Joe, boy,

825
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: See now I could have said something. See I knew

826
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: about this, but I ain't put him out there.

827
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: Joe. At that time, I was on CBS and the word.

828
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: That came back to me, we got You know, I'm

829
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: not one of those I don't have him problem, you know,

830
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: you know, like the ball not coming, I'll be I'll

831
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: be chilling, Joe. Just that game, the magnitude of the game,

832
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: and you allowing them to take us what we want

833
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: to do.

834
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: You thought y'all were going to the Super Bowls.

835
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: I promise you. Hey, Joe, all I needed was the ball. Joe.

836
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: Just put him in the hand. Joe, and listen, I wasn't.

837
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: I wasn't one of those guys at catching one hundred

838
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: and twenty and one hundred and thirty passes a season.

839
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: Ninety you give me three or football is a game.

840
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm good because two of them. Oh, I'm finna get

841
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: Jiggy Jiggy a bunch of catchers, shit