WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Around The Horn 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:13.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, This is nick shot, 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:17.400 streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com and the. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:22.240 Official Dallas Cowboys Act. And now your hosts Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:26.880 Everson Wolves, Nate Newton, and Bill Jones. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:35.960 Another beautiful day for football here in Oxnard, California. Yes, 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.920 it is day number ten of Cowboys training camp. It's 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.800 day number three in pads today, and we are now 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.800 less than ten days away from the first preseason game 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:53.440 for your Dallas Cowboys against the Jacksonville Jaguars a week 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:58.520 from Saturday at AT and T Stadium, Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.400 Nate Newton, and general Man. We have football tonight. In fact, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.320 how about that the Hall of Fame game is tonight 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:07.920 the Jets and the Browns. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:12.560 Actually it's this afternoon, this afternoon for us, or I 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:17.759 think it starts four thirty here. Well that's tonight four 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.200 thirty here, I don't think so. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:28.039 Okay, Cowboys played next Saturday. Wait on us Watson is playing, 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.560 thank you man. But it's football, it is and it's 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:32.160 on TV. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:34.120 Yeah wow. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.759 And Producers Supreme is motioning over here for something I was. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:39.160 Going to tell you. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.759 Remember, DeMarcus is doing the national anthems? Right, that's right. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:43.920 That's the biggest. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:47.440 Thing I'll turn out when Mickey. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:52.840 Yeah, when Mickey sat down here with his uh parka 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.840 and you already got long sleeves on, you got a hoodie. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.520 My phone says he's stressed like seven dress like this. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.880 This broadcast is from Green Bay. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.480 And look he's sitting here with shorts like this like 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:05.280 he's freezing. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:06.200 Wow. 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.040 But when when when Mickey sat down here, he said, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.480 we got to talk about DeMarcus ware, that's right. They said, 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:19.120 what happened to DeMarcus? And I forgot? He's singing the 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:20.280 national anthem today? 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.239 Yes, absolutely. I bet he's more nervous for that than 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.760 having to give his accepting speech. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:27.079 Right. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.760 Hopefully they have the war the words up on the 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:30.320 big board. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.480 You know, if he's confident enough, if he's confident enough 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.240 to volunteer to sing the national anthem, I think he's 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:39.799 got it down. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.560 Do you know Brad Sham's brother, Eric sa national anthem 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:45.919 last night the Rangers game. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.600 Oh okay, all right, And you can see Eric Sham 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.320 on a daily basis at a at the Star and 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.680 given tours. He gives tours out there. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.360 He's not singing, but he's given to her. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.200 Yeah, when he comes, maybe you have to pay extra 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.160 on that tour. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.000 Only with the Cowboys, Right. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.680 Yeah, Nate, what's on your mind this morning? 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.200 Just anything you guys want to talk about. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.680 We tried before the show, we tried to get a 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.040 pre prep with Mick and all he talked about was 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:17.760 DeMarcus Ware And the first thing he did when we 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.959 come on airs, forget about DeMarcus. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.160 Nick, what are we talk about? 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:26.839 When asked me about that, Hey, I know what I see. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:33.440 Let's start here, Okay. Mike Solari, he had an interview yesterday. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.640 I think probably the assistant coaches did interviews with the 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.760 local media after they walked through yesterday. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:46.120 And so I was thinking with Tyron Smith, he talked 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.600 about salary the other day when he actually did an 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.480 interview out there, and he was talking about how he 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:56.080 brings a lot of energy to the room, talked about 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.800 how he is kind of old school and he'll tell 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:05.360 you which needs to be told. But it dawned on 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.560 me with Tyron had gotten here since twenty eleven, Yes, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:15.960 first round pick? How many offensive line coaches. Off the 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.880 top of your head, do you think he's had. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:19.720 Seven? 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.599 Nate right on the Oh, really seven is seven? I 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:32.960 went back and looked it up and it started Bill Callahan, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.080 good coach, great coach, Hudson Howe great. Actually Hudson how. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.400 First, good coach, great coach. Then it was. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:47.960 Paul Alexander a coach, half half a season a coach, 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:55.719 Mark Colombo good coach. Then uh, Frank I skipped Frank 0:04:55.760 --> 0:05:04.039 Pollard was before Mark maybe Collard was in there, and 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:09.240 then Joe Philbin and now Mike Slari. So it's like 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:13.360 almost once every two years he's had a new offensive line. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.919 Offensive line coaches too. And in fact, Mike Solari, for 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:21.960 you longtime Cowboys fans, he was on this staff when 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:23.960 Tom Landry was the head coach, and. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:28.040 I was that came in the players eighty eight. Get 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:29.520 you On special teams. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.120 I was doing a kickoff return yes back then, yeah, 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.800 yeah I was. I was part of the wedge. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.400 Yeah you were the whole way. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.400 Yeah yeah, we we was topping the line. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.320 Go back and check the stat We wasn't joking, bro, 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.080 I was calling whether it was right or left return, 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:47.760 or whether it was reverse whatever. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.040 I was the one calling it. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.520 I wasn't the smartest guy in the world, but I 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.160 could see the different hashes, so I. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.799 Could call you left and right up the middle, Yes, sir, 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.520 very good. So anyway, I just thought that was interesting 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.400 that he's had that many offensive line coaches over the 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:05.719 UH and well respected. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.200 And that's one of the moves that thirty four. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:12.880 Years of coaching in the NFL, thirty four that's ah, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.719 this I should say this is his thirty fourth year. 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.280 So well, the guy who replaced Joe Philbin it may 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.240 not have been in the NFL for thirty four years, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:21.920 but he's got to got to have at least thirty 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.000 four years of experience. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.640 Yeah, and there in college prior to and the and 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.880 the difference in personalities one hundred and eighty degrees right. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:34.360 When you this is this is when you It's all. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.800 About your presentation with offensive linemen, when you walk through 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.160 the door, and how you present yourself go a long 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.400 way with these guys because they if you tell them 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.040 one thing and you're going to be this way, you 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.520 got to be that way. And a lot of coaches 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.760 that I in that first coach you did, the guy 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.120 that went to the Washington Commune. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.920 Callahan, Bill Callahan, I liked. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.039 Him because he didn't play. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.680 If you play well, he gonna tell you played well, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:02.880 but you didn't play great. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.240 And that's what he's looking for. 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.279 And when he work his individual deal, he asks for 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.080 you to get into individuals and get involved. A lot 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.200 of times guys will have do things. We really do 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.360 win the game. In practice. Our preparation is everything as 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.120 a unit because we all has to be on the 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.680 same page. And if that coach ain't getting that over 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.440 real well and giving you scenarios and situations where you 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.760 can adjust in the game real well or transform it 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:30.560 to the transfer. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.120 What's worth what I'm looking for, transition it to the 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.480 game easily. That guy's not doing his job. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.560 And and coach we've had a few coaches Hudson Hall, 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.960 coach y'all Callahan, those guys are great. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.680 Coach clari is up that ilk. You don't need new 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.680 school offensive line coaches. You really don't. All of those 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:52.960 guys should stay old school. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:57.320 Now other other positions, well, I'm serious, other positions right, Uh, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.320 you know I got to do this and to do that. Yeah, 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.679 oh man, we're doing it like this. And coach McCarthy said, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.640 you don't need a lot of padded practices because the 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.160 new NFL requires a little bit more athletic ability because 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.280 the field is we're covering the whole field. But that's 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.240 not really true with the offensive line, you know, because 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.080 we're in a certain area all the time, and we're 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.400 not going past that area a lot of the times, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.880 whether it's a pass or run, we kind of stay 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.600 in that same area. So it's it's a little bit 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.280 more physical. So you do need that old school coach 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.160 that's gonna drill technique, gonna do his drills at a 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.800 high pace, so these guys can be easy to transition. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.840 Just off the top of my head, I'm thinking you 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.559 had five different offensive line coaches with. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:56.439 The coachmar Okay, Jim ring Back, Tony Wise, coach Hudson 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.360 Hawk Okay, and did I have anybody else? 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:05.640 There wasn't somebody between Irkinbach and Tony right, because when 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:10.319 Jimmy got here in the n nine, he bought Tony Wise. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.800 Yes, I had, I had all of my Now my 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:21.280 first jim My coach moral was my least uh, I 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.800 would say, technique guy and now he he You had 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:28.000 to know the plays but technique and getting you prepared 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.760 for a game for the situations that you will face. 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.360 He wasn't great at that, but you were gonna be 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.840 in shape and you were gonna know the plays. Now, 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.319 how you blocked those plays was gonna be up to you. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.160 You know what I'm saying. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:46.280 But Tony Wise, Jim Urknbeck, they made sure you knew 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.480 the technique, the proper way to do it. And coach 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.800 Hudson Hawk was a technician because we had to be. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.320 We were drop step guys. When he got here. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.280 We had to take a step, drop step, get in 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.839 sync and that lined us up always with. 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.240 The running back, especially doing running back plays. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.480 We were always in sync, always in step with the 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.000 running back, so he get. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.920 The proper read for the proper holes. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.520 And I'm telling you I had some of the best, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.679 if not the best. The only guy I missed was 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.240 that guy that left us and went to Washington. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.200 Callahan, that dude. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:25.959 He is one of the best. That's all I can say. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.559 He's not offensive coordinator. He think he is, but he's 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:30.520 offensive line. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:37.400 Coach Mike Solari. I'm just looking at his resume and 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.400 we mentioned when he was he was with the Cowboys, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.200 as the assistant offensive line coach in special teams coach 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.840 in nineteen eighty seven and eighty eight. Prior to that, 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.760 he had coached in college. Listened to his journey now 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.800 go all the way back nineteen seventy six when he 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.000 was the offensive line coach straight out of college at 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.640 Mission Bay High School out here in California, Myra Costa College, 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:03.240 United States International, Boise State, Cincinnati, Kansas, and pitt Then 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.960 to the NFL with the Cowboys in eighty seven, the 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.840 Phoenix Cardinals under Gene Stallings in eighty nine, to Alabama 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.720 with Gene Stallings nineteen ninety and ninety one. Back to 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.800 the NFL, he was with the Niners and their Super 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.760 Bowl in their nineties teams that went up against the 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.000 Nate Newton's Cowboys. Ninety two through ninety six, he was 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.120 the tight ends coach, so he was Brent Jones coach 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.360 with the Niners. Then he went to Kansas City so 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.360 that he would have been with McCarthy there early on 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.160 in ninety seven. With Kansas City, he was there at 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.040 ninety seven through five through seven offensive coordinator at the 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.200 end of his run there. Then goes to Seattle eighth 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:46.000 nine to San Francisco with Harbaugh twenty ten to fourteen, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.520 to Green Bay with McCarthy in twenty fifteen, to the 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.400 Giants in twenty sixteen seventeen, and then back to Seattle 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.280 in eighteen twenty one with Pete Carroll. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:01.120 And what that tells me is whether you a zone 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.920 or a solo block. I call it solo block. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.600 And when you do one on one block and its 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.240 zone block is when you take off and run and 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.200 pick up area man area. So it don't matter what 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.559 offense you in. This guy can coach it and he 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.959 understands what he needs. And a guy like that is 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.320 when you come into the West Coast offense, you have 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.520 to have a guy like that that can adjust everything 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:27.160 because he got to be continually teaching his players. This 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.400 scheme is gonna be different this week because you change 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:30.160 a little bit more. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:31.439 When you go to the West Coast offense. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.520 Was what was his last offensive lineman? 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.439 Yes, what was his. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.079 Last before coming here Seattle? Seattle? 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.240 They were a bunch of bruises And he was not 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.559 coaching last year in Seattle. He was through twenty one. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.719 Right, And a lot of times when the coaches move 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.360 around like that, it has to do with staffs changing, 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.160 the head coach coming in, getting the guy they want. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.439 And why is he here? He was with McCarthy a 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:55.960 couple of times in the past. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:01.640 Right and who you know anyway, So yeah, the assistants 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.040 were available yesterday, probably the only time we I mean 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.520 we can talk to him, but they actually stood, you know, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.040 in front of cameras or whatever. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:15.000 He's your MVP. He's your MVP or he's your goat. Yeah, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:20.000 that's just the bottom line. He he If we go far, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.199 it's gonna be because of Coachlar. If we don't go far, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.000 it's gonna be because of him. In the offensive line, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.520 I just believe that this year. It make you heard 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.199 me say it a thousand times. That's that's I'm basing 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:35.080 this this year of the two things, protecting the ball 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.440 and how offensive line plays, you know. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.760 And he's got a kind of a dual job here, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.440 not only getting the starting five set, but he's also 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.720 has to develop depth on this offensive line. And you know, 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.960 we sit here and go, well, it looks like that 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.480 second offensive line might be pretty good, but now we 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.960 got to see it. Unfortunately for some of those guys, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:06.920 And after watching the first couple team padded practices. You 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.600 had some young guys at tackle, like, well, let's go. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.600 I guess a Dooga is not exactly a young guy, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.800 but he hasn't played that much in the league. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.600 Do we still do yoga? 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:21.720 I haven't seen that. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.960 They better heard him, get some yoga. That kid is, man, 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.160 I've seen ironing boards move by that bro. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:29.120 They do yoga. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.720 They haven't seen it. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.280 That's because they do it where you can't see it. Oh, indoors, No, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:36.240 it's outdoors. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.880 I'm telling you they need to hurry up. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.080 They need to do it twice a day with this kid, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.080 I'm telling you, man, I am. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:44.960 I mean. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.920 This number eleven Okay, he's great. Number eleven is great. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.080 But he lined he lines up at on seventy one 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.960 and don't even don't even acknowledge it. He's like, he 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.800 don't even he just ran that, behd. He don't even 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.160 acknowledge him. He don't touch him, you don't. He's just 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.520 and walk so bothers me. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:17.040 Here's where I was going with that, because Parsons, it 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.520 almost doesn't matter who's lining up at taxing. 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.800 I agree, but at least he has to acknowledge. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.960 Yeah, Tyron, Tyron and steal. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.480 Still at least at least they get a hand on it. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.720 But he's he's abusing the tackles and you gotta understand. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.600 So you got to decide is it Parsons or is 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.000 it you know, these guys struggling. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:42.280 Because I see, well, let's go go right at uh Follower. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:48.760 No problem that he'll not follow on the ground. The 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.360 problem with our offensive line right now, This is with 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.840 Josh Baul, this is with seventy nine. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:55.360 Well, let's go. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.280 You have to at some point jam the guy out 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.120 and fight. You can't continue to give ground. You're gonna 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:04.280 be on. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.000 Top of the quarterback. You have to pick a spot 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.360 and say I'm getting to this spot and you. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:13.080 Gotta fight, and you gotta fight. And these guys are 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.560 too passive and I don't know how you change that. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.200 I don't know how you change that. And I and 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.960 uh cheshamerglocked him. A great Raider player out of Clemson, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.560 first round pick, was with the Raiders, and we was 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.760 watching film and coach do this, Nate technique, this take that, 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.520 And I was a maller. I was a fighter, and 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.360 so I'm trying to do all these technique. I find 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.400 myself just backing up, losing every battle. And then Tony 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.480 Wise stopped me and he said. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:41.560 Hey, look at here, Nate, look at her. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.360 He he rally cussings and hey, Nate, look at here. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.560 But uh, I understand that we're teaching technique and we 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:48.880 want to believe in our technique. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.680 He said, by get. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.240 Something point, you gotta stop and fight this son of it. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.640 You know what I'm saying, right and and and then 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.560 I started winning the battles again. He like, Nate, I'm 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.520 gonna teach you technique and we're gonna have to always 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.720 believe in that. But at some point you have to 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.199 stop and fight and let a person know you. I 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.280 ain't backing up, bro, I got a paras just like you. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:09.480 You know. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.560 And by the way, Chester mcloughtin was coached by Mike 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.760 Solari in Kanesas City. 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:19.280 That's good. 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.280 When did you run across Chester mcglocktay? He just he 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.880 was with the Raiders, Okay, Devens right ninety two through 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.320 ninety seven. He was with the Raiders. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.080 You're talking of a talent that did not reach his potential. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.320 I feel bad. I feel sorry for that kid. I mean, now, 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:36.320 he was a great player. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.639 Hey, you played twelve years in the league. He played 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.080 twelve years in the league and four time Pro bowler. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.440 Off talent alone, he could have been a ten time 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.120 pro bowler if he wanted to. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.600 Six three, three hundred and thirty four pounds. That's why 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:49.280 he's listed here. 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.880 Oh yeah, and in the ball when he wanted the ball, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:53.720 he was nasty. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.320 So there's been a also a well, speaking of Parsons, Yeah, 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:03.679 when he did his interview, he was talking about the 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.239 benefits of having Stefan Gilmore on the team, and they 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.359 were going back and forth and he kept talking about, well, 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.880 I told Gilmore, if if if you covered the way 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.520 you cover, you can get me three more sacks, and 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.800 and and then he told Gilmore, he said, and by 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.880 the way, you're gonna get more interceptions because quarterbacks aren't 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.480 gonna have any time to throw the ball. You know, 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:28.919 you can kind of count on it. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:33.800 So why do I love Parsons? And I don't Basically, 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:35.320 I don't care what he does say. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.920 But why is it why does it always lead back 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:42.880 to I'm the man because he is the man. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.200 Because he is the man that I know that. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:47.880 And that's why I said, I don't care what he's saying, 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.680 because I was like, oh, Gody, he's praising Gilmore. Oh my, 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.600 but so lady, why is background? 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.920 I will help you out too. You know what it 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.800 you know what it reminds. And this defensive front could 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:06.560 be pretty strong, including the linebackers, because they're using the lineback. Well, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:10.000 they started Parsons as a linebacker. Now he's rushing. They 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:15.000 got vander Ash rushing as a defensive end in some situations. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.720 That's gonna be interesting to watch. But that pass rush 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.240 could be awfully good. And you know what it reminded 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:24.000 me of. And stop me if I already told the story. 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:29.400 You remember I Colt came over with the trade from 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.760 herschel Walker, so it had to be like ninety or 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:37.800 ninety one. Everybody was praising the Eagles secondary how good 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.320 they were. So we're in the locker room one day 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.720 and you know Ike, he's pretty funny, and we're in 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.760 the locker room one day and somebody was talking about 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.400 their secondary and Ike goes, well, let me show you 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:57.640 what the Eagle cornerbacks do almost every play. So he 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:05.360 reminded everybody of their front Reggie White, Clyde Simmons in whoever, 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.840 the other fourth guy was, and he goes, here, here's 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.560 what their corners do. So he gets down in his 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.400 stance with his hands on his knees and he back 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.400 pedals right, and he goes, all right, here we go 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:21.320 snap and he steps three steps back. He stands up, 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.760 puts his arms across his chest. I'm good. 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:26.600 I'm good because he knew. 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.439 They didn't have to cover very last, right, especially with 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.480 that front, all right, and so if the Cowboys can 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.560 put a pass rush together like that, now you still 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.400 got to stop the run. But the pressure on opposing 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.480 quarterback is gonna help the secondary. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.480 All right. We're just getting started here on mixed shines 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:49.040 on a beautiful Thursday. Is Thursday, Thursday, Hall of Fame 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:53.680 game Thursday. DeMarcus wearing national anthem Day Thursday. And we're 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:54.440 back at a moment. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.800 I'm Duk Prescott, quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. Blockchain dot 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.200 com is one of the most trusted ways to buy, sell, 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.879 and trade crypto. 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