Speaker 1: One of the biggest pet peeves I have as a
Speaker 1: coach is when you're on a team that's not doing
Speaker 1: very well and the opposing coach whose team is doing
Speaker 1: well walks up to you at the fifty yard line says, man,
Speaker 1: you guys, play hard.
Speaker 2: You I don't want to play hard. I don't to
Speaker 2: you up.
Speaker 1: That's the mindset. No one's talking about how we play
Speaker 1: hard anymore. They're Peyton and that's exactly what you can want.
Speaker 2: Oh that's my coat.
Speaker 3: From the Chris Wesley podcast Studio. It is the season
Speaker 3: finale of the Hard Knocks podcast and Hard Knocks and
Speaker 3: the show the show as well, what's more important decide
Speaker 3: if I had I'm Dan Hansis, by the.
Speaker 4: Way, and I'm Colleen Woolf.
Speaker 3: Hello, that's Colleen wolf and you you grade very high
Speaker 3: on the given factor.
Speaker 5: That was one of my favorite lines from the entire show.
Speaker 5: Also wrote it down.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 3: That one that connected with me because sometimes when you
Speaker 3: work with people or whatever in life, you want to
Speaker 3: make sure that that factor is at a high or
Speaker 3: an acceptable level.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: We all got to be in it to win it.
Speaker 5: I also, just going off of what Robert Sala just
Speaker 5: had to say there when coaches go up to him
Speaker 5: and say, man, you guys play hard? Okay, was it Belichick?
Speaker 5: How many times has Belichick said that to him? Mc
Speaker 5: dermott like, who was it that really got under his skin?
Speaker 5: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest that Jets have had two losing seasons
Speaker 3: under Solace so far, so plenty of coaches have had
Speaker 3: that opportunity to this point, but this is supposed to
Speaker 3: be different. Collien and if I could offer a one
Speaker 3: line synopsis of this fifth and final episode of Hard
Speaker 3: Knocks to kind of an overview of the Jets in
Speaker 3: general what we've seen this summer, that might be all
Speaker 3: as well in Jetland. Or if we want to add
Speaker 3: some dramatic sala Ian Salayan.
Speaker 4: Sal Yeah, sala Ian salah.
Speaker 3: Ian heft, we could call it where foolish crows come
Speaker 3: to suffocate then free fall to their pitiful depths.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, out of context, it was weird, but
Speaker 5: when we saw the full.
Speaker 2: Thing, point is this team believes.
Speaker 3: That's a reflection obviously of the coaching staff led by
Speaker 3: Robert sala and these five weeks served as a snapshot
Speaker 3: of a team Connie an organization that is absolutely certain
Speaker 3: of its place in the NFL right now.
Speaker 4: That confidence has never been higher.
Speaker 2: Which you know, let's get into that a little bit.
Speaker 3: Here's DJ Reid, the cornerback, underrated cornerback of the Jets.
Speaker 3: On Monday, had a zoom call with reporters and he
Speaker 3: said this, I think we have the potential to be
Speaker 3: the best defense in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Just stop there, stop there, we don't need it. But
Speaker 2: he keeps going.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think we can be historical, not just the
Speaker 3: best defense in the league, but I think we could
Speaker 3: be a historical defense like the eighty five, eighty six Bears,
Speaker 3: the lob Seahawks legion of Boom in twenty thirteen. I
Speaker 3: think we could be that dominant if we just put
Speaker 3: all the things together. And that's the side of the ball,
Speaker 3: Colleen that doesn't use Aaron Rodgers, right.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 5: So what I'm kind of getting from you right now
Speaker 5: is like a little a little stress, maybe a little
Speaker 5: anxiety style because everyone is so confident and hard knocks
Speaker 5: really put together this like beautiful image of this Jets
Speaker 5: team that has everything going right, all the pieces are
Speaker 5: in place.
Speaker 4: The future is theirs to grab.
Speaker 5: And take hold of and do whatever they want to
Speaker 5: do with it, you know, unless something catastrophic happens, which
Speaker 5: never happens to the Jets.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's kind of the crux out.
Speaker 3: It's like the Jets, they of the seven game losing
Speaker 3: streak that ends last season and the thirteen year and
Speaker 3: counting playoff drought. They view themselves as major players with
Speaker 3: championship upside. But now here's the hard part, Connie, they actually.
Speaker 2: Have to like do it right.
Speaker 3: So as I've really enjoyed as a fan this entire summer,
Speaker 3: this spring, everything after Rogers's arrival, but I've got i
Speaker 3: gotta like some nerves now and watching this finale and
Speaker 3: seeing how high the confidence is that now they got
Speaker 3: to go and do it. Here's defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick,
Speaker 3: who again gassing up this plane.
Speaker 2: He believes, God, look around, this is it, this is it.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
Speaker 7: It's all we got, it's all we need, guys, am
Speaker 7: I whatever. Twenty plus years in this league, I have
Speaker 7: never been around a collective group with such talent and
Speaker 7: such character. And that's real, Like this is a special
Speaker 7: group in so many ways. It's our time. That's not
Speaker 7: just words on a PowerPoint. It's our time to dominate.
Speaker 7: It's time to go.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: I've bought in, I'm here for it. Listen, of all
Speaker 4: of the teams.
Speaker 2: Talk me down my anxiety down a little bit.
Speaker 5: Well, I understand this because the first time, the year
Speaker 5: that the Eagles won the Super Bowl, they had been
Speaker 5: playing so well and everyone was so high on them,
Speaker 5: and it made me feel so uncomfortable to actually hear
Speaker 5: something positive, right that was real and happening with the Eagles.
Speaker 5: But this team really is set up so well out
Speaker 5: of all of the teams that kind of they grab
Speaker 5: your attention and then they stab you in the heart
Speaker 5: like the Chargers, you know, like you know, the Browns
Speaker 5: have done so many times too. But the Jets actually
Speaker 5: feel like they are about to turn this around. That
Speaker 5: they are the logic checks out the precipice of greatness.
Speaker 5: Here's what I tell listen, they have logic checks out defense.
Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year. I mean, everything is, everything.
Speaker 5: Is set right now for them. The table is set,
Speaker 5: and now they just have to you know, they gotta do.
Speaker 3: They gotta eat, They gotta eat. I mean, should I
Speaker 3: be worried about the wall Finish the wall.
Speaker 4: Finish the wall.
Speaker 2: Finish the wall, all right, the finale.
Speaker 5: So yeah, finish the wall situation, which I kind of love.
Speaker 5: They're going to basically take snapshots and scenes from every
Speaker 5: game every week and then put it on the wall
Speaker 5: that long hallway that we saw in the episode, and
Speaker 5: so they did it for the preseason, and it's kind
Speaker 5: of like their own destiny is in their hands and
Speaker 5: they don't want that hallway to be filled with terrible photos,
Speaker 5: and they wouldn't do that anyway. But I think that
Speaker 5: that this is kind of like a cool, nice thing.
Speaker 5: Also from like an Artsy's Dance Go ahead. I am
Speaker 5: so in on this, Like I wish that I could
Speaker 5: help vote what pictures are going to go up and
Speaker 5: what wallpaper they will be using for each week.
Speaker 2: I like it. I am You are a seventy seven
Speaker 2: year old woman.
Speaker 3: And doryd Toreen Waldenstein trapped in a young woman's body.
Speaker 3: I enjoy that about you. I can picture you in
Speaker 3: an upstair of an old house, in an attic, in
Speaker 3: an attic, locked away in the attic, hardwood floors, heating
Speaker 3: and air conditioning not great, but it's okay because you've
Speaker 3: been given an easel and one window and you're just painting.
Speaker 4: You know, I paint right, yeah, bird watch.
Speaker 2: The bird watch and you paint and it's a tourene corner.
Speaker 5: But the hallway finish the wall. That is a very
Speaker 5: confident plan that they.
Speaker 3: Have right and again I love it. I love that
Speaker 3: this team believes. And when Jeff Ulbrich the DC talks
Speaker 3: about how special the defense is, and when DJ reid
Speaker 3: Uh does the same thing in a conference call with reporters,
Speaker 3: I get it. But I think it's just six days
Speaker 3: to kick off, and anxiety is setting in after what's
Speaker 3: been such a great ride by the way, this hallway
Speaker 3: and a great opening opening shot in the finale. Just
Speaker 3: it's a one hundred yard hallway that butts up against
Speaker 3: the practice field, the main practice field and Leev Schreiber,
Speaker 3: who big year for Leev.
Speaker 2: Let's go give it.
Speaker 3: Up for Leev Schreiber, not only once again and whatever
Speaker 3: Paul Rudd in the Chief season, get off the corner.
Speaker 3: This is Leev's territory. And he got He was in
Speaker 3: the opening credits, cry on sure he Chiron Chiron.
Speaker 4: I was like, cry on.
Speaker 2: That I missed opening Chiron for the first time.
Speaker 3: He took a damn helicopter to the practice field.
Speaker 4: Shout out blade.
Speaker 2: Shout out blade. How much who paid for it?
Speaker 3: Probably the guy with the seven million dollar chain he
Speaker 3: used for thirty five seconds in one episode. But anyway,
Speaker 3: Leev does a great kind of opening monologue here.
Speaker 2: HBO is almost like, how much are we paying? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we gotta get we gotta get the most of him.
Speaker 3: In episode five, here's here's a portion of it not
Speaker 3: from Leev because he's a hugely successful actor and there's
Speaker 3: all sorts of legal loopholes that preclude him from being
Speaker 3: on an NFL media property like this one day maybe,
Speaker 3: but we did get Jason Zumwalt in an old airport.
Speaker 6: It's true. The hall is dead straight, and every NFL
Speaker 6: season has twists, so the metaphor is not perfect, but
Speaker 6: it's not bad. Besides, the most important part of this
Speaker 6: hallway is what lies at its end. Four letters that
Speaker 6: now means something new. J E. T s. Today is
Speaker 6: about learning who's earned the privilege of being called one.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: I love the light music playing in the background.
Speaker 2: Beyond music, is it just me? Or is that his
Speaker 2: best delivery?
Speaker 5: I think he likes an audience apparently he was in
Speaker 5: the airport doing it. Who knows were what little space
Speaker 5: he carved out.
Speaker 2: For He must have looked nuts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably love that.
Speaker 5: I know we were hoping that he would be in
Speaker 5: an actual airplane, that he would have to do it
Speaker 5: from the bathroom.
Speaker 3: With Sumwat's initial plan is flying fly. He was working
Speaker 3: Louisiana heading back up to Connecticut. His initial plan was
Speaker 3: to do it from an airport bathroom. And then he
Speaker 3: and then he said to me, this is this is
Speaker 3: great with Jay. He texted me, I'm gonna send it
Speaker 3: to a guy. He has a guy that would filter
Speaker 3: out the ambient sound of being in an airport bathroom
Speaker 3: or in a plane bathroom. I was like, no, we
Speaker 3: want that, we want the ambiance anyway. Good job by
Speaker 3: Jay all season long, and uh leev, way to go, buddy.
Speaker 3: So and he's teeing up who's gonna make the team? Yeah,
Speaker 3: And the episode kind of starts on a very positive note.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I can't complain you.
Speaker 1: You've been nervous, man.
Speaker 8: How you feeling?
Speaker 6: It's been pretty good? Yeah?
Speaker 9: How do you think the preseason went?
Speaker 4: It's been pretty good, you know, yeah, well.
Speaker 9: You know, the odds are stacked against you from the
Speaker 9: from the jump man. So you did a lot of
Speaker 9: good things this camp man. Yes, so we appreciate your
Speaker 9: hard work. Just want to let you know. Man, you're
Speaker 9: in New York.
Speaker 4: Jet a take out.
Speaker 1: Hell, I know what you earned it you get, You're
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna do a lot of good things for us.
Speaker 2: It's here.
Speaker 4: Should Robert so all have be doing voice work just
Speaker 4: as an aside. I mean, he has a great voice.
Speaker 3: Uh Zumwal doesn't need more Competition's keep him on the sideline.
Speaker 3: That was Xavier Gibson, one of the wide receivers young
Speaker 3: wide outs that made the team. Jason Brownly also made
Speaker 3: the team and also got the fake out treatment by
Speaker 3: Oh by the way, oh Joe Douglas. He's actually with
Speaker 3: the organization. He finally saw in episode five.
Speaker 4: He is alive and well.
Speaker 3: I remember in the twenty ten Jets Hard Knocks Mike
Speaker 3: Tannenbaum the GM at the time, you actually they were
Speaker 3: showing Mike on the field trying to catch as many
Speaker 3: punts as possible in his arms and like stumbling and falling.
Speaker 3: I remember FRANCESSA on New York d be like that's
Speaker 3: a clown. Shown.
Speaker 5: That's why Joe Douglas didn't show up until Nally as
Speaker 5: the Euro Yes, I love this was very wholesome and
Speaker 5: pure because we had mentioned that we hadn't really gotten
Speaker 5: a lot of uh, you know, inner workings of the
Speaker 5: coaches kind of standing on the table for their guys.
Speaker 2: He never did.
Speaker 5: Actually, we had seen that in all of the other
Speaker 5: past Hard Knocks, but not with this one, and the
Speaker 5: Jets were pretty clear about that from the jump. So
Speaker 5: I kind of had a feeling when I saw Jason
Speaker 5: Brownlee go into the office with Joe Douglass for his
Speaker 5: maiden voyage on the show, his first appearance, and Robert
Speaker 5: Sala that this would be a fake out. But then
Speaker 5: it also had me wondering because Jason Brownlee and Xavier
Speaker 5: Gibson are such close friends.
Speaker 4: Jason obviously called.
Speaker 5: Old Xavier to tell him that he made the team,
Speaker 5: and I'm sure he told him exactly what happened, like
Speaker 5: how they faked him out. So I wonder if Xavier
Speaker 5: kind of knew that that was happening or could be
Speaker 5: good question a possibility, because otherwise it was like, really,
Speaker 5: that's what you're going to do.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, these guys think that they're gonna get.
Speaker 2: Cut Here's what Aaron Rodgers said.
Speaker 3: I'm really proud of those guys, and he mentioned how
Speaker 3: they didn't get big signing bonuses, they were disappointed on
Speaker 3: draft day, but to end up with a spot on
Speaker 3: the fifty three, and now we're a week further from
Speaker 3: the cutdown day and week one is coming up on
Speaker 3: Monday night. These guys look like they're safe and they're
Speaker 3: going to be on the fifty three, which is a big,
Speaker 3: a really big moment obviously, and something you don't see often.
Speaker 3: I did think it was really interesting. We never on
Speaker 3: the on the season, we never even heard about Corey Davis. No,
Speaker 3: and the reason on your radar, the reason why Xavier
Speaker 3: Gibson and Jason Browny both make the team. It used
Speaker 3: to be two kids for one spot, and Corey Davis
Speaker 3: retires ruptly, has a big contract, veteran guy, he's had,
Speaker 3: you know, really success, a lot of success and with
Speaker 3: the Titans, not as much with the Jets, but he
Speaker 3: was supposed to be part of it.
Speaker 2: He retires suddenly.
Speaker 3: We never hear about that on the show, or it's
Speaker 3: never really made clear why it became two spots, but
Speaker 3: it is and to the benefit of these guys, they
Speaker 3: get a chance and now we'll see again. It's almost
Speaker 3: weird after this very unprecedented season for Jets fans, We're
Speaker 3: gonna see what these kids can do.
Speaker 2: Are they gonna get run? Is Aaron Rodgers gonna throw
Speaker 2: them the ball?
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 2: See?
Speaker 5: And then also the other rookie that I'm super interested
Speaker 5: in now is the running back.
Speaker 4: Is he Abana Konda? First of all, I just like
Speaker 4: his name is so much fun to see see right
Speaker 4: off the tongue, and he was hurt.
Speaker 5: He was able to come back so quick that thigh injury.
Speaker 5: Where he was on the field, he couldn't even feel
Speaker 5: anyone like touching his leg, you.
Speaker 2: Know how bad.
Speaker 3: Like imagine everyone's gotten like either need or punched in
Speaker 3: the arm by their buddy or some jerk like a
Speaker 3: bu and then it's like, oh, it's sort It's almost like, yeah,
Speaker 3: imagine being need so hard in the thigh that the
Speaker 3: trainer comes out and you can't feel.
Speaker 2: It's a brutal game.
Speaker 4: I can't, I can't.
Speaker 5: I mean he was supposed to be out for a month,
Speaker 5: came back in a week, and then we had a
Speaker 5: chance to meet his family a little bit more nice.
Speaker 4: They're Nigerian.
Speaker 5: They talked about how they love parties, they love to celebrate,
Speaker 5: which I just feel like I would get along so
Speaker 5: well with this whole entire hungry.
Speaker 4: That food looked so bomb.
Speaker 5: I don't know what. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 5: Maybe it was some type of rice would make.
Speaker 3: Me not of this food look bomb? Get it to
Speaker 3: Connie in time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if it was a Nigerian dish
Speaker 5: that they were cooking, but if it was, it could
Speaker 5: have been jallof rice.
Speaker 4: That is something i've Yeah.
Speaker 5: There's also something called puff puff, which is fried sweet
Speaker 5: of fried sweet dough ball, which just looks like maybe isn't.
Speaker 2: That like a zeppee or whatever? Oh?
Speaker 5: Probably was that a New Jersey turn and that sounds cool.
Speaker 5: It's Italian Italian Jersey news.
Speaker 2: Zeppel is like a do you know, Eric Roberts, you're from?
Speaker 2: Where are you from?
Speaker 10: Original Los Angeles?
Speaker 2: Ever heard of it?
Speaker 10: No, no idea.
Speaker 4: It's like you get in the bag. It's great.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That could be a Northeast we'll find out.
Speaker 3: We've we've come back into this cul de sac once more.
Speaker 3: We are Yeah, Tanzel Smart, the defensive tackle who everyone
Speaker 3: really that watched the show.
Speaker 2: He was impossible not to root for. He does not
Speaker 2: make the team.
Speaker 3: We notably do not see this because in you know,
Speaker 3: old Hard Knocks days, there's a GoPro in the coaches
Speaker 3: of the GM's office Brownley Gibson, Like, there's a cameraman
Speaker 3: just like sitting in there hanging with him. Yeah, imagine
Speaker 3: what those guys are thinking. It is like, am I
Speaker 3: about to get cut with his cameraman three feet away
Speaker 3: from me? But they weren't smart. There were no cameras
Speaker 3: for that. We did get though a conversation the fact,
Speaker 3: and it was it was sad. It was sad kind
Speaker 3: of because he's holding his young daughter and we knew,
Speaker 3: just from how NFL Filds did such a great job
Speaker 3: tracking his story how much this would have meant to
Speaker 3: him and changed his life if he made the team.
Speaker 3: He doesn't. He ends up on the practice squad, but
Speaker 3: that was not his goal. Here is Smart.
Speaker 11: You just want to get what you deserve, you know,
Speaker 11: And I feel like I deserve. I deserve to be
Speaker 11: on the fifty three. So if you know, if God
Speaker 11: wanted me to be here, I'll be here. But if not,
Speaker 11: I need to go be on the fifty three. I
Speaker 11: just put a lot of good out there, and that's
Speaker 11: why I read it on even like you see my face,
Speaker 11: I'm not I'm upset, but I'm not like, oh, devastated,
Speaker 11: because at the end of the day, I put everything
Speaker 11: I could into this and it.
Speaker 3: Is that's the human side of what makes the show
Speaker 3: so great. And you know that's hard to watch because
Speaker 3: how real and human it is. He say look at
Speaker 3: my face, and his face tells the real story, right,
Speaker 3: He's crushed.
Speaker 5: He's completely you can hear the frustration, but you can
Speaker 5: also see the defeat. And I think that's like what
Speaker 5: he's getting at when he says, look at my face, Like,
Speaker 5: I'm not crushed, but it's like, yeah, of course he is.
Speaker 5: And he's felt this many times over again, and he
Speaker 5: wants this so bad. And he's holding his daughter, who's
Speaker 5: so sweet and so cute, and he's looking at her
Speaker 5: and it's just like, I want this for him because
Speaker 5: he wants it so bad, so that kind of pulls
Speaker 5: at the heart strings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I always think about. It's one of my
Speaker 3: favorite moments in the history of Hard Knocks. It was
Speaker 3: in the Bengal season. I believe the second Bengal season
Speaker 3: defense another defensive tackle, Terrence Stevens, who is a great
Speaker 3: singer and he's trying to make it on the roster.
Speaker 3: I remember when they would show practices and games. He
Speaker 3: just wasn't necessarily hanging right with the big boys about
Speaker 3: to cry. But he's a great singer and he sings
Speaker 3: this John Mayer song called Gravity, and the lyrics were
Speaker 3: so poigting for the moment, and it's likevity is working
Speaker 3: against me, gravity keeping me down and keep me where
Speaker 3: the light is, which was just like there were so
Speaker 3: many kind of parallels to NFL life. And I thought
Speaker 3: about that again with Tanzel Smart.
Speaker 4: But he ended up on the practice squad.
Speaker 2: And here's the good news.
Speaker 3: And I did the same thing last year because I
Speaker 3: remember I got deja vu. Here is the good news
Speaker 3: for us people that understand the practice squad is not
Speaker 3: where you want to be as an NFL player. But
Speaker 3: according to my quick Internet research, the minimum for players
Speaker 3: who have accrued more than two years in the NFL
Speaker 3: or two seasons, and Tanzel is twenty seven.
Speaker 2: He bounced around a little bit starting the rams.
Speaker 3: You make fifteen four hundred per week, or two hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy seven two hundred dollars for eighteen weeks.
Speaker 2: That the player is a crew two of more seasons.
Speaker 2: So that's not bad. Okay, So that's good for his family,
Speaker 2: that's good for him.
Speaker 3: And if things an opportunity arises, maybe we see him
Speaker 3: at Jetlife Stadium, you know what.
Speaker 4: That feels like a win.
Speaker 5: And I'm hoping for bigger things in the future for
Speaker 5: him and Quincy Williams.
Speaker 2: I don't want to either. Carcuccie Board, Quincy Williams.
Speaker 3: Carcuccie Boards, Will McDonald and Quincy Williams walking off the
Speaker 3: field after the news broke about Tanzel.
Speaker 2: It's business, it's not personal. It's tough. It's tough. All right,
Speaker 2: Let's take a break. We're gonna have a very special guest.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 3: I mean, this has been building for five apps and
Speaker 3: now it is time big reveal.
Speaker 2: After this break, the old man, welcome back.
Speaker 4: What a day.
Speaker 2: How's your dad doing?
Speaker 4: Oh he's great, A wolf awesome ed.
Speaker 2: Wolf saw you?
Speaker 3: Oh he sure did sign that together in the conversation
Speaker 3: a little bit later, but from one father to another,
Speaker 3: he around the NFL. Fans know him well. The man
Speaker 3: that made me a Jets fan for better or that
Speaker 3: made you and made me. You got that right too.
Speaker 3: Cue the music, Eric Roberts.
Speaker 2: His name is Keith. He's stands dad, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: He's a big Jets fan. Wood is he going to
Speaker 2: say the game today? Will he go game today? Hey?
Speaker 3: Joining us now from spring Lake, New Jersey, a mere
Speaker 3: stone's throw from the florm Park headquarters of New York Jets.
Speaker 2: It's Keith Hanss my dad.
Speaker 4: Hey, pop, mister hans is Hello.
Speaker 12: Oh I Dan and Colleen. How you guys doing.
Speaker 2: We're doing well? Better now?
Speaker 3: Yes, we've been wanting to have you on the Hard
Speaker 3: Knocks podcast. We wanted to pick the right spot, and
Speaker 3: I feel like the finale, Dad, is the perfect time
Speaker 3: to bring you in as a Jet fan. Going back
Speaker 3: to the name of days and first of all, what
Speaker 3: were your thoughts, Let's talk about the finale. Anything from
Speaker 3: the finale that really kind of stuck out to you tonight?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 12: Yeah, what a finale?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 12: The thing that I really took from that finale was
Speaker 12: two big things. First of all, when they were walking
Speaker 12: down that hallway, initially right when they and they think
Speaker 12: that was the length of a football field, right right,
Speaker 12: And then when they at the very end they showed
Speaker 12: how then they were sequencing putting pictures in up to
Speaker 12: with the hard knocks, and then they were going to
Speaker 12: put more pictures throughout that hallway as the season progressed.
Speaker 12: I thought that was pretty cool because that was such
Speaker 12: a long hallway. Yeah, it's the big thing I got.
Speaker 12: The biggest thing I got was Salah. I thought when
Speaker 12: his reference to Mount Everest m you know, the analogy
Speaker 12: of you know, climbing to the top of Mount evereston.
Speaker 12: You know, the Jets, you know that they really need
Speaker 12: This is really the first time in so long that
Speaker 12: they have, you know, good hope in the preseason going
Speaker 12: into the season.
Speaker 3: With Rogers, and he pointed out Connie and the rest
Speaker 3: of the team, they've only gotten to the base camp
Speaker 3: right now, there's so much farther to go. And Dad,
Speaker 3: you mentioned that hallway. We talked about the base camp. Huh, right,
Speaker 3: We talked about at the beginning of the show, how
Speaker 3: that hallway and how they're going to put up photos
Speaker 3: celebrating each week, big moments from each week. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like that could backfire if the season doesn't go well,
Speaker 3: But at the same time, they don't think about that
Speaker 3: because there's so much confidence around this team. Can you
Speaker 3: ever remember as a Jets van at an off season
Speaker 3: And they've had a lot of down years, obviously, but
Speaker 3: there have been years where name it through some of
Speaker 3: the Ken O'Brien years, Vinny Testaverdi Pennington, even Mark Sanchez,
Speaker 3: there happened moments of excitement for this this fan base.
Speaker 3: But do you ever remember it ever being like this?
Speaker 12: Well, when it comes to the name of years, you know,
Speaker 12: right after the Super Bowl they made the playoffs and
Speaker 12: then they lost the tough game to Kansas City. And
Speaker 12: then the following season nineteen seventy one, you know, all
Speaker 12: the Jets had really high hopes because they had a
Speaker 12: strong defense and a great offense. And what happens in
Speaker 12: preseason name of trying to make it tackle in those gays.
Speaker 12: Six games were played in preseason, all right, I believe
Speaker 12: tries to make it, Yes, he makes it, tries to
Speaker 12: make it tackle of Mike Lucci, the linebacker of the
Speaker 12: Detroit Lions, and he tears up his knee and he
Speaker 12: missed almost the whole season. So that to me, that
Speaker 12: was like everybody was looking for that season to be
Speaker 12: such a to come back season for them. And then
Speaker 12: of course you know that name. It had a couple
Speaker 12: of more good years, but that was you know, the
Speaker 12: team was never the same.
Speaker 5: Well, listen, I've been watching Danny as you call him,
Speaker 5: and I feel like when you're on and when I'm
Speaker 5: around you, I have to call him Danny. Danny kind
Speaker 5: of worked through different emotions while watching Hard Knocks, going
Speaker 5: from just the excitement of the fact that it was
Speaker 5: about the Jets and then working slowly towards a little
Speaker 5: bit more of a stressed out situation because so much
Speaker 5: is now around the Jets. There's so many spotlights on them.
Speaker 5: So for you, I just want to know your experience.
Speaker 5: Has this show given you more confidence or more anxiety
Speaker 5: about the season coming up?
Speaker 12: No question about it. More confidence, totally more confidence. And
Speaker 12: let me just say one other thing about you know
Speaker 12: about you said how the Jets fortunes? How was I
Speaker 12: looking at the when it comes to Danny, all right,
Speaker 12: that's when the Sanchez years came in. That was big
Speaker 12: post name it that we thought was going to something
Speaker 12: have something happened, But yeah, this, watching this show, I
Speaker 12: was definitely.
Speaker 2: On a high. Yeah, I bet. What about your opinion?
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember being in the garage with you dad
Speaker 3: at my old house in Culver City, and it was
Speaker 3: a Thursday night and I had a TV set up
Speaker 3: and we had the heat lamp set up and it
Speaker 3: was me, you, our dear departed friend Chris Westling, Greg
Speaker 3: and Mark and we were watching the game.
Speaker 2: Colleen was at lambeau Field while this was going on.
Speaker 3: We were talking about the Packers and famously called the coach.
Speaker 2: Lafleura a bearded boy, which was great.
Speaker 3: But also in that conversation that was always brought back
Speaker 3: up that you said that you didn't like Rogers.
Speaker 2: He's arrogant.
Speaker 3: That was the word, Danny, I don't like that Rogers,
Speaker 3: He's arrogant. Has your opinion changed it all on Rogers
Speaker 3: over the past four or five months, or even the
Speaker 3: last five weeks with this show, you.
Speaker 12: Know, you're absolutely right. I did have that feeling because
Speaker 12: he does have that sort of rough edge to him,
Speaker 12: But not seeing the different side of Rogers which we
Speaker 12: saw in Hard Knocks was big. You see how he
Speaker 12: was not only to his teammates but the coaches and
Speaker 12: then players that even in pre season. You see the
Speaker 12: way they all go over to him and embrace him
Speaker 12: and say hello. He says hello to all these guys.
Speaker 12: You know, it's like he's not that same guy that
Speaker 12: had that attitude in Green Bay. I don't know if
Speaker 12: that's what I'm seeing differently, but he's certainly he's a
Speaker 12: totally different guy.
Speaker 2: I think it's a lot guy. I just didn't know him.
Speaker 5: It's like watching Dan at work. Everyone kind of comes
Speaker 5: up to Dan. They gravitate towards him. They're giving him
Speaker 5: high fives when he walks in the building.
Speaker 3: Everybody loves Dam and I'm like Rogers when he was
Speaker 3: the tail end of the packers.
Speaker 2: I just tell everybody to get away from me.
Speaker 5: You know what, the mister Hansas, I have a question
Speaker 5: for you, because for years and years and years, Dan
Speaker 5: has been telling us about his hometown. Where you live now,
Speaker 5: Spring Lake, would you describe it as a cold town
Speaker 5: as Dan has?
Speaker 2: Well, Pearl River is where I.
Speaker 4: Grew up, Pearl River. I'm so sorry. Is that a cult?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 12: That was Danny's description of Pearl River. You know, I
Speaker 12: never saw any coal mines in Pearl River or anything,
Speaker 12: but I guess Danny was referencing it to some other
Speaker 12: things that he was equating it too. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 12: And Colleen, you can call me Keith.
Speaker 4: Please, Okay, great? Great.
Speaker 3: The best part is my dad never really had any
Speaker 3: issue with it, but my mom deb she'd be like,
Speaker 3: I don't like that you call it a cult, Dad,
Speaker 3: before we say goodbye. You know Joe Namath, your two
Speaker 3: heroes growing up, Nameth Mickey Mantle. Okay, name it. Towering
Speaker 3: figure in Jet's history. I think Aaron Rodgers if he ever,
Speaker 3: if this ever ended, best case scenario, and and he
Speaker 3: took this team from where they were last year to
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl title, I think he would have clout
Speaker 3: as a New York athlete that maybe you don't touch
Speaker 3: name it because it was a different era too, but
Speaker 3: he would be a legend in New York. You agree, right,
Speaker 3: like Rogers has a chance to enter rarefied air as
Speaker 3: someone's been watching the New York sports scene for a
Speaker 3: long time. That would put him in a special category
Speaker 3: that only a few enter.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, you know, if he can take this team, which
Speaker 12: you know they have one of the toughest schedules, which
Speaker 12: I know you guys have talked about and if he
Speaker 12: could take him to like eleven or twelve wins of them,
Speaker 12: hopefully for at least eleven, you know, this would put
Speaker 12: him in a total I would definitely be There's no
Speaker 12: other Jet quarterback I'll put it this way, other than
Speaker 12: the name of it that could do what he can do.
Speaker 12: Rogers what I feel. So yes, I would put him
Speaker 12: right up there Jet next to Joe. But who else
Speaker 12: on the Jet the quarterbacks over the years, could even
Speaker 12: you know, could you even put there? You know, Testa
Speaker 12: Verdi had some good years, but you know, pretty much
Speaker 12: they've had some guys that really nothing really and.
Speaker 2: I hope that right, no, nobody really Well.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, I wish that we could
Speaker 5: have Keith on a show every week.
Speaker 4: He's so much.
Speaker 5: Fun, such a blast hanging out with your dad before
Speaker 5: the super Bowl this past season. He told us so
Speaker 5: many stories, It's fun about you growing up and it
Speaker 5: was just like a delight. So anytime you want to
Speaker 5: come on any of these shows, I mean even shows
Speaker 5: that I'm not on, you should come on.
Speaker 2: Very much.
Speaker 12: I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Let's end it this way, Dad, because you introduced Jets
Speaker 3: fandom to me, and I learned a lot about name
Speaker 3: It from you and watching old clips over and over
Speaker 3: and over.
Speaker 2: I was hoping we'd see Joe. I thought.
Speaker 3: I was hoping we'd see him at the Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame enshrinement where two jets went in and they played
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2: We didn't.
Speaker 3: I was almost certain we'd see him on Hard Knocks,
Speaker 3: but we didn't. Hope everything's good with Joe. But since
Speaker 3: we didn't see Joe in these episodes other than a
Speaker 3: little quick clip at the top of the show, at
Speaker 3: the top of the season, I want to play my
Speaker 3: favorite name is clip for you dad, as before we
Speaker 3: say goodbye, Hit it Eric.
Speaker 13: Okay, sometimes they talk about drinking and conniving around with
Speaker 13: ladies and stuff, and it seems almost Unamerican to me
Speaker 13: for a bachelor, not to mar you know, go around
Speaker 13: having a drink with a lady now man, and why
Speaker 13: all of a sudden, that's becoming evil in me, just
Speaker 13: trying to get bye. Look at that shot and.
Speaker 2: He buries the shot, that iconic, he buries the shot.
Speaker 12: He buries the shot. And if that isn't that isn't
Speaker 12: the nineteen seventies, nothing is and that was just typical
Speaker 12: of the way things were in those days that it
Speaker 12: was really good. And I did get to meet Joe
Speaker 12: one time when they used to train in Long Island
Speaker 12: at Hofstra University and was a good friend of mine,
Speaker 12: was on the Hostra football team. And I'll just say
Speaker 12: this one thing quickly. He said, Keith, you want to
Speaker 12: meet Joe. I said, are you kidding me? Are you
Speaker 12: asking me that question? And I said, of course us
Speaker 12: And he says, well, listen, he has to be in
Speaker 12: by eleven o'clock in the dorm. And they were in
Speaker 12: the Hosture dorm. Just would have acologized. And sure enough,
Speaker 12: in a big Cadillac, Joe comes pulling into the parking lot,
Speaker 12: gets out and starts walking up and we're right at
Speaker 12: the doors, and I said, hey, Joe, how you doing?
Speaker 12: Hey my favorite player?
Speaker 2: And here I'm there.
Speaker 12: I'm about eighteeth at this time, right and I'm suck
Speaker 12: get out of here, you know, very friendly, very nice.
Speaker 12: So that's that's my name of the story.
Speaker 2: Wow did he make did he make? Curfew?
Speaker 12: He made it because it was right at eleven so
Speaker 12: and sure enough, like he said, every time, it's the
Speaker 12: same exact thing. The car came peeling into the parking
Speaker 12: lot literally you heard it, and then out of the
Speaker 12: car into the and he got in of course at
Speaker 12: eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, that's a true story.
Speaker 3: Well from one legend to another. Keith Hansas, thank you
Speaker 3: for joining us, Papa.
Speaker 2: We love you, Keith, thank you like that. There you go,
Speaker 2: my dad. I love that Hofstra story.
Speaker 3: To like eighteen year old kids in the seventies waiting
Speaker 3: for the great Joe Namath to roll in.
Speaker 2: So good he said, eleven or twelve wins.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's feeling good.
Speaker 2: But like I will, I will say that.
Speaker 3: If they win eleven games and it, you know, go
Speaker 3: quietly in the playoffs, it won't feel like good enough
Speaker 3: to me. Like I think they the bar is high
Speaker 3: enough now where not only have to get back to
Speaker 3: the lafts. They gotta make a little bit of noise, okay,
Speaker 3: and then you dream big for something beyond that.
Speaker 5: So just making the playoffs would be a disappointment, a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, a little let's get to do you disagree?
Speaker 5: No, I agree with all the fanfare and everything, but
Speaker 5: I think too that is why some teams sometimes don't
Speaker 5: want hard knocks because they think that it's going to
Speaker 5: we'll get to that too much.
Speaker 2: Let's sit up here, let's get to our final MVP.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 3: Votes and this is a major episode for Eric Roberts
Speaker 3: vector voting system.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, first of all, he came into this
Speaker 5: episode extremely strong. He was able to navigate all sorts
Speaker 5: of technological issues going into our screening room. He figured
Speaker 5: out how to work the theater, which neither one of
Speaker 5: us know how to do.
Speaker 4: He just kind of sat there and heckled him while
Speaker 4: he did it.
Speaker 10: That was my favorite part of the really great job
Speaker 10: you guys cheering me on.
Speaker 2: I thought you were.
Speaker 3: I thought you were just setting him up to mention
Speaker 3: that he forgot to turn on our mics at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the taping of this episode.
Speaker 4: You can't win them all.
Speaker 3: Magic of podcasts. Eric's done wonderful work all season. His
Speaker 3: job is to be the mathematician of the group tabulating
Speaker 3: the vector voting system. Let's do our votes for m
Speaker 3: v P and then once we hand out these three
Speaker 3: prize places, Eric will share with us the Hard Knocks MVP.
Speaker 4: Third place for me this week, that's it.
Speaker 5: Robert Sala, the motivator, I would play for that guy
Speaker 5: any day. I like Keith Hansis, loved the Mount Everest analogy.
Speaker 5: At first I thought it was maybe going to be cheesy,
Speaker 5: but the way that he explained it and landed that plane.
Speaker 4: Perfect jets exactly.
Speaker 5: And then you know that that the finish the wall,
Speaker 5: I mean, that has to be his idea. So and
Speaker 5: I think that that is like an onion type idea.
Speaker 5: So third is solid.
Speaker 2: It's kind of putting yourself out there.
Speaker 3: And we talked about it around the NFL that very
Speaker 3: rarely does a coach get three years. If you don't
Speaker 3: make the playoffs any of those first three years, you're gone.
Speaker 2: They have not made the playoffs yet in his first
Speaker 2: two seasons.
Speaker 3: Sala has a lot of pressure on him, but you
Speaker 3: could tell he believes that this is the right team.
Speaker 3: I had him as my second place vote. Okay, so
Speaker 3: Salad does very well in our voting enough to win it.
Speaker 2: We shall see my third place votes.
Speaker 3: A vote go to You know, I I love this
Speaker 3: defensive line, love all season long.
Speaker 2: And by the way, if I.
Speaker 3: Could really, can we just quick aside here if I
Speaker 3: really had to hand out one MVP for MVP for
Speaker 3: season five, it's Colleen.
Speaker 4: Wolf oh Whoa.
Speaker 2: Absolutely nailed her prediction.
Speaker 3: Slash wish that they end Hard Knocks thanks a finale
Speaker 3: with a trip to Broadway. Yeah, and what do we
Speaker 3: see in the first fifteen damn minutes? Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson,
Speaker 3: a host of other players at the MJ Show on Broadway.
Speaker 4: You nailed it, my dream. This is all I wanted.
Speaker 2: It's show business, maybe your box office.
Speaker 5: Like, on one hand, I would love to be like, yes,
Speaker 5: this prediction was so awesome and I knew it was
Speaker 5: going to happen. I saw it before it even happened.
Speaker 5: But also it's like I would like to believe that
Speaker 5: maybe I planted the seed and they were like, you
Speaker 5: know what, that is a great idea call.
Speaker 4: We will all go to Broadway, so, uh, here we are.
Speaker 2: You don't know for sure that's not what happened.
Speaker 5: I know, but either way, this is the power of
Speaker 5: putting things out in the universe and seeing them happen.
Speaker 5: So there this was like, this was so awesome, Like
Speaker 5: I love this defensive line too, and I'll let you
Speaker 5: keep going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say Tanzel Smart was one of
Speaker 3: the people there. Mister Carcucci board himself Michael Clemens. I
Speaker 3: don't know what's Clemens there. I'm not positive, but I.
Speaker 4: More we saw him in a different part of the show.
Speaker 3: A general like shout out to the D Line last week,
Speaker 3: I gave it to Smart kind of representing the D Line.
Speaker 3: I'm giving it to Michael Clemens for a birthday wish
Speaker 3: to Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 2: That kind of sounded like a death threat. Let's listen
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 12: Ah, Damn it is sausage birthday, though, I think so.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Damn.
Speaker 9: Smart, Happy birthday, Happy birthday, Bro, we go happy birthday.
Speaker 2: If you have a great I appreciate it.
Speaker 12: Bro. Not making eye contact, No, won't look at him
Speaker 12: in the eye.
Speaker 2: And there's more to that story.
Speaker 5: By the way Clemens has him by the chest, like
Speaker 5: by his jersey, It's really funny.
Speaker 3: This is Sauce Gardner, who is arguably the greatest young
Speaker 3: defensive star in the sport entering his second season, being
Speaker 3: grabbed by the jersey collar and refusing to make It's
Speaker 3: like my dog when I come home and he chewed
Speaker 3: something up. He just he won't even look at me.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the backstory is between Clemens, and
Speaker 3: it seems very pretty clearly like a bit, but I
Speaker 3: just like the idea that, like, there's a whole other
Speaker 3: thing that's been going on through training camp that we
Speaker 3: were not pretty to.
Speaker 2: So all we have is that with no context. And
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 5: But I also did not see Sauce laughing at the
Speaker 5: at the bit quote unquote.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what the story is.
Speaker 2: Sometimes a bit is only a bit to one side, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: This actually works perfect because my second place vote and
Speaker 5: I guess if we're gonna do D line, so you
Speaker 5: had it for the full D line or clemens on
Speaker 5: behalf Okay, So I'm gonna go with Solomon Thomas here.
Speaker 2: Run.
Speaker 5: He was sort of I would like to think that
Speaker 5: he was the leader in getting this Broadway show and
Speaker 5: the field to happen in general. And they went, they
Speaker 5: saw Michael Jackson. I think Solomon Thomas said that this
Speaker 5: was his fourth time seeing the show, so avid show
Speaker 5: watcher and Broadway guy. But it was just so fun
Speaker 5: to see all of the players out in the wild
Speaker 5: and at a musical too, so they're dancing, they're singing.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to know, though, the people in the
Speaker 5: audience that were sitting behind the players they had to
Speaker 5: deal with all of the hard knocks cameras very annoyed
Speaker 5: about that. That would have been absolutely on my radar.
Speaker 5: So I don't know how they felt about it, but
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 2: Probably not a cheap ticket. No, you know, to the MJ.
Speaker 4: Broadway Show, Nathaniel Hackett had on a sport coat that
Speaker 4: was cute.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they caught Solomon Thomas had a moonwalk. That was
Speaker 5: That was the part that I like though, and he
Speaker 5: was not good at it, but it was funny.
Speaker 3: I should before we move on to our second and
Speaker 3: first place votes, I have a prize for you.
Speaker 2: I have a I have a yeah, a prize or
Speaker 2: a surprise.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a surprise, and it's also an award
Speaker 3: for being so prescient with your prediction. Yes, earlier this season,
Speaker 3: the premiere, in fact, we had a certain player that
Speaker 3: wears number eight on the Jets wearing a certain hat
Speaker 3: that you thought was cool. So behind the scenes here
Speaker 3: at NFL Media, the yes, the hat that says cherish
Speaker 3: the little Things a gift from NFL Media.
Speaker 4: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: I love this.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna wear this all the time. First of all,
Speaker 5: it's black and white. So it's gonna go with so
Speaker 5: many things, including this outfit. Yes, I love baseball hats.
Speaker 5: I love trucker hats. This is going in the rotation.
Speaker 5: I love this.
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 2: All right? What'd you get me?
Speaker 4: My presence is the gift?
Speaker 2: All right? So you deserve that for that prediction.
Speaker 4: L I owe you. Here's this visitor's badge because I
Speaker 4: passed today.
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's perfect. We even, all right?
Speaker 3: I said I had Sola second, Kay, you had second place?
Speaker 4: Solomon Thomas, Solomon.
Speaker 2: Thomas first place.
Speaker 4: Who do you got Aarons same seas? We both have Rogers?
Speaker 5: Just I mean he was a staple throughout this entire series, clearly,
Speaker 5: but the UFO story Loane really drove home my first
Speaker 5: place MVP vote for him.
Speaker 2: I have to say, Colleen, I got something else here?
Speaker 4: What else is over there? That's like Christmas?
Speaker 2: My banana just felt.
Speaker 3: You know how many you know, how many like you
Speaker 3: know how many things have happened this year where I've
Speaker 3: thought to myself or this during this show.
Speaker 2: I feel like this was made for me.
Speaker 3: Like it's a show about the Jets, and you know,
Speaker 3: all these different things this Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: And the UFO tidbit from Aaron.
Speaker 3: Rodgers felt like I was watching Unsolved Mysteries, which is
Speaker 3: like my favorite show forever, Robert Sock forever. I wanted
Speaker 3: to bring in this Leslie Nielsen autographed photo that I believe.
Speaker 3: I want to say this my sister or my brother
Speaker 3: maybe or maybe my cousin who was a family members.
Speaker 2: It's signed.
Speaker 3: My son was born in twenty fourteen, Jack Luck and laughs.
Speaker 3: Leslie Nielsen from Naked Gun, who was prominently discussed by
Speaker 3: Nate Hackett and Company as a legend of the forum.
Speaker 2: Now here's you want to talk about unsolved?
Speaker 4: That's so cool.
Speaker 3: Leslie Nielsen died in twenty ten. H my son was
Speaker 3: born four years later. So I don't know who signed
Speaker 3: this or if Leslie.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just want to say that, Leslie Nielson.
Speaker 4: You got this gift before Jack was born.
Speaker 3: I got it for his his birth. Yes, Leslie Nielsen
Speaker 3: signed eight by ten, four years after Leslie passed. Wow,
Speaker 3: so somebody my son's name did not create like exist
Speaker 3: in the ether when Leslie left us.
Speaker 4: So what an unsolved mystery.
Speaker 3: That's an unsolved mystery. Now another unsolved mystery. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: with his old cow teammate in the New Jersey Woods,
Speaker 3: seeing something that changed them.
Speaker 8: We had this great dinner at his house in Jersey.
Speaker 8: I was making my way to bed. I had like
Speaker 8: a five am wake up, and I was I was
Speaker 8: getting down to bed. I heard this alarm and distance
Speaker 8: going off. It just didn't seem like normal. When I
Speaker 8: heard some rustling downstairs, so I got up, walked downstairs.
Speaker 8: A beautiful night, and Steve and his brother and I
Speaker 8: walked outside and up in the clouds, you know, we
Speaker 8: heard this sound and we saw this tremendously large object
Speaker 8: moving through the sky and it was like a scene
Speaker 8: out of Independence Day when the ships are coming into
Speaker 8: the atmosphere and they're creating this like kind of explosion
Speaker 8: type fire in the sky.
Speaker 4: I am on the edge of my seat.
Speaker 5: My heart is pounding, Aaron, I need more more more.
Speaker 8: I stood frozen to three of us on the front
Speaker 8: stoop of Steve's house, and about thirty seconds later, we
Speaker 8: heard the real recognizable sound of fight jets going that
Speaker 8: seemed to be chasing this object. And again we just
Speaker 8: stood there and just disbelieve. For another few minutes. Nobody
Speaker 8: said a word, and then we all kind of looked
Speaker 8: each other like, did we just see what we think?
Speaker 2: We just saw?
Speaker 8: What was that?
Speaker 4: You saw it? You definitely saw it. That's what it was.
Speaker 4: That was a UFO.
Speaker 3: Now, Rogers obviously has taken his fair share of slings
Speaker 3: and arrows for being a little bit out there. And
Speaker 3: I can understand why a certain like a doubter or
Speaker 3: a skeptic might say, Oh, that's the guy who's going
Speaker 3: to lead you to it for super Bowl in fifty
Speaker 3: five years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're damn right, that's the guy.
Speaker 4: You know why, because he's seen the light.
Speaker 2: Because he's right, He's right.
Speaker 4: That story was insane, you.
Speaker 3: Know what a good music yougo is such a long
Speaker 3: way by the way, that was very stacky and unsought mysteries.
Speaker 2: Good jab bravo as usual.
Speaker 5: They really really set it up well. But I believe him.
Speaker 5: My dad is seen a UFO. And Aaron Rodgers even
Speaker 5: said in that whole retelling of the story that they
Speaker 5: were right by a nuclear power plant, like a few
Speaker 5: miles away from one, and that is a noted.
Speaker 4: Area UFO classic.
Speaker 5: Behavior exactly, And that's where my dad saw his because
Speaker 5: he was in it was in the middle of the night,
Speaker 5: Ed Wolf manning the air traffic control tower a straight
Speaker 5: sho he is. He does not like, he doesn't exaggerate
Speaker 5: about things. He's not a storyteller that like, you know,
Speaker 5: just adds in fake dee for the stake.
Speaker 10: Ever story, Yeah, never.
Speaker 5: And he's even like sometimes a little bashful about telling
Speaker 5: the story. And he's at an air traffic control tower
Speaker 5: in the tower in the middle of the night, and
Speaker 5: it's at a missile silo because that's where he was
Speaker 5: stationed during not and he sees he sees this bright
Speaker 5: light that's not on the radar, and he's sitting with
Speaker 5: someone else and he sees the light zigzag across the
Speaker 5: sky and then disappear. And he turns to the guy
Speaker 5: next to him and he said, did you just see that?
Speaker 5: And the guy goes, unless you want to go to Vietnam,
Speaker 5: we didn't see anything.
Speaker 2: To Vietnam.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, you can only say noam if you
Speaker 2: actually battled.
Speaker 4: Him during NOM he was manning the nuclear missile silo.
Speaker 3: I listen, man, and it's coming out more and more.
Speaker 2: And Dorry and Dorr. Yeah, Ed, I believe you.
Speaker 3: I believe your story, and I believe my quarterback saw
Speaker 3: something he wasn't maybe supposed to say, are we allowed
Speaker 3: to be talking about it?
Speaker 2: Who's watching us? All question?
Speaker 4: They are? Of course they are. I know many people
Speaker 4: who have seen one.
Speaker 3: All right, I think not to take the air out
Speaker 3: of the balloon on this one. But I think it's
Speaker 3: pretty clear who the MVP of the season is. But
Speaker 3: why don't we go five to one Eric Roberts and
Speaker 3: according to the vector voting system? Because I'm just gonna say, Connie, yes, now,
Speaker 3: I don't want to step on it. I have in
Speaker 3: my mind, my mind, who is the runner up? I
Speaker 3: guess that I have. But let's hear okay, I actually.
Speaker 2: Think I know. I'm going to write it down what one, two,
Speaker 2: three is?
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I'll do the same thing.
Speaker 2: All right, there we go.
Speaker 10: So how about you go one to four because after
Speaker 10: four it's event started four thought for you.
Speaker 3: Let me just make sure I have this written down
Speaker 3: for posterity. Okay, I am good, I have my I'm
Speaker 3: like the mentalist right now, I'm writing it down.
Speaker 4: I love that you.
Speaker 5: Call me and Doreen, but like you're writing stuff out
Speaker 5: and you have Leslie Nielsen a framed photo.
Speaker 10: I'm with you. On the writing man, I love I
Speaker 10: love writing.
Speaker 2: There you go, okay.
Speaker 10: Fourth place guys Quinnin Williams with twelve points.
Speaker 3: Q you okay. I would have guessed that too. I
Speaker 3: didn't go to four, but that makes sense. He had
Speaker 3: a great year defensive lineman. It's Sauce Gardner who has
Speaker 3: arguably the highest upside of all these defenders and the
Speaker 3: guy that is the kind of face of the defense.
Speaker 3: But Q is a star who just got paid and
Speaker 3: really showed himself well in this series.
Speaker 4: Is just like a nice guy personality.
Speaker 10: Had a pretty funny line in the last episode, you
Speaker 10: don't love me, you love that I get you sacks right.
Speaker 2: What I do for you to mister Hackett. Yes, third place,
Speaker 2: my name is Nathaniel Hackett. Thanks, thanks to see you
Speaker 2: out here.
Speaker 10: Yep so and then either here was He's always good
Speaker 10: for a good one liner.
Speaker 3: So he you know, that is the power of Nate
Speaker 3: Hackett offensive coordinator and what a great job this show did,
Speaker 3: kind of rehabilitating some of his image after the.
Speaker 5: Broncos Rogers Big Butterfly exactly.
Speaker 2: Me too, hack Okay, So Hackett gets third.
Speaker 3: He consistently he was a little quiet in the finale,
Speaker 3: but overall, week after week was living one liners.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised.
Speaker 10: Second place, second place, guys, Roberts.
Speaker 1: If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.
Speaker 3: That's right, Salah. I think he also quitted himself very well, Connie.
Speaker 5: This season he absolutely did Leader of Men and he
Speaker 5: should be doing way more voice work.
Speaker 3: Well, Jason doesn't need again more competition, which means, of
Speaker 3: course first place. And the last year the winner of
Speaker 3: the Hard Knocks MVP was somebody probably Dan Dan Campbell
Speaker 3: Dan camp This year, twenty twenty three Hard Knocks MVP
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Yes, hees Aaron Rodgers not.
Speaker 4: Gonna be so excited about it.
Speaker 2: Look at this graphic.
Speaker 3: I mean, Eric the dead MIC's at the top of
Speaker 3: the show, completely forgotten. Now, yeah, look at that Hard
Speaker 3: Knocks MVP number. Even a big old smile.
Speaker 5: He's just so happy to receive this honor out of
Speaker 5: all of his honors.
Speaker 4: And look he gets another MVP, which is great.
Speaker 2: And that's that's yeah. It takes us too, Yes, he's
Speaker 2: got five.
Speaker 3: Now takes us to final thoughts of the season, Colleen, Uh,
Speaker 3: what what did he get by?
Speaker 2: How many points did he finish with do you have that?
Speaker 10: Finished with forty two and and Sala had Sala had
Speaker 10: a distant fourteen?
Speaker 2: Whoa, I didn't even I thought we were kind of
Speaker 2: like we're a little.
Speaker 10: The problem was the bread out the like the points
Speaker 10: behind first pretty like so it's never saw like a
Speaker 10: second second second. It was always like Aaron and then
Speaker 10: like a mixed smash.
Speaker 4: Of like see that's the vector voting.
Speaker 2: Vector voting system.
Speaker 3: But that I mean, if we would have come to
Speaker 3: any other conclusion other than Aaron Rodgers is the MVP
Speaker 3: of the show, we would have been it would have
Speaker 3: been the vector voting system would have been torn asunder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the MVP. He deserved to be the MVP.
Speaker 3: Hopefully he's the real MVP in real football, starting next
Speaker 3: Monday night against Robins's Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5: Hold on a second, though, are we paying off? What
Speaker 5: did you have written down here for your productions?
Speaker 2: Close? I had Rogers, Hackett, Sala, what did Hackett at twelve?
Speaker 10: It was fourteen for Sala, Hackett for twelve, Quinnen and
Speaker 10: Hackett both at twelve points.
Speaker 3: And Connie she did it again, you get that hat again.
Speaker 3: I was gonna take the hat away, but now you
Speaker 3: get it. It's mine cherish the little things. Starting with
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers wearing that in episode one, I thought this
Speaker 3: was a great platform for him, and it feeds into
Speaker 3: my final thought, Connie, teams need to relax. Teams need
Speaker 3: to stop taking themselves so seriously. And I include the
Speaker 3: Jets on this. I mean, you are not in charge
Speaker 3: of the Manhattan project here. You You are a football team,
Speaker 3: and Hard Knocks is a program that should not be
Speaker 3: seen as a distraction or in any way an impediment
Speaker 3: to your goals. And the said goal hoisting Lombardi trop
Speaker 3: in February or Connie, to look at it another way,
Speaker 3: if having NFL cameras on your property for like a
Speaker 3: month is enough to sidetrack your summer and somehow booby
Speaker 3: trapped the season to come, you were doomed anyway.
Speaker 5: Got bigger problems to worry about than the Hard Knock count.
Speaker 3: So to all the teams, and I hated it as
Speaker 3: a Hard Knocks lover that the enduring storyline leading up
Speaker 3: to the season was like, who's gonna do it? They
Speaker 3: can't find anybody. Please, Teams look at this as the
Speaker 3: golden opportunity that is so clearly is to show off
Speaker 3: your players and coaching staff and ownership and fans and
Speaker 3: your state of the art facility and your team history.
Speaker 3: In short, let NFL Films cook. You'll be better off
Speaker 3: in the end.
Speaker 5: Yes, isn't this whole thing what we do? We talk
Speaker 5: about a game. A game is entertainment, this show is entertainment.
Speaker 5: We're in show business.
Speaker 3: Or is her just once said you play to win
Speaker 3: the game, you play to be on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
Speaker 3: I nailed that, and you know we did get a
Speaker 3: little bit of less access from the Jets also, And
Speaker 3: I don't want that to be the start of a
Speaker 3: new trend. Now, let these team, let the NFL Film's
Speaker 3: crew do their job, and kind of everybody will win.
Speaker 3: Does he think anybody watched these five episodes of Hard
Speaker 3: Knocks or any of the past season, maybe the Brown season,
Speaker 3: you would come out of it thinking a little different
Speaker 3: about the team. Hugh Jackson and Greg Williams going at
Speaker 3: it behind the sea. Yeah, but it makes it paints
Speaker 3: you in a positive light if you are a team
Speaker 3: that it has its together right.
Speaker 2: And I think the Jets do right now.
Speaker 5: And that's what's so exciting, and I think that it
Speaker 5: shows confidence in an organization. If you say yes to
Speaker 5: Hart Knocks, it shows that you don't have anything to
Speaker 5: hide and you're not worried about distractions because you have
Speaker 5: what it takes to go and win when it actually matters,
Speaker 5: and that this is really just base camp right here
Speaker 5: before we get to Mount Everest. And you know what else,
Speaker 5: I would like to see more off site gatherings like Broadway.
Speaker 5: So to the future producers of Hard Knocks, please take
Speaker 5: us off site and I want more.
Speaker 2: Field Do you want more for see? I don't need
Speaker 2: that as much.
Speaker 3: I thought they'd got a good job of kind of
Speaker 3: raining that in a little bit this season. What I
Speaker 3: would like to see in the future is more behind
Speaker 3: the scenes. I want to see more table pounding and
Speaker 3: things like that. I thought they kind of got it
Speaker 3: just right with We went to Broadway, we did some charcouterie,
Speaker 3: we got some tattoos with Will McDonald.
Speaker 2: It was nice. They did a nice job. It was
Speaker 2: a very enjoyable and it was.
Speaker 5: There and they absolutely crushed the sopranos open like they
Speaker 5: did New York.
Speaker 2: Well that's the other.
Speaker 3: Thing, Like I said, Leslie Nielsen name dropped. Okay, my
Speaker 3: favorite comedic actor ever. Love them so much that from
Speaker 3: Beyond the Grave he autographed the glossy for my newborn son.
Speaker 2: Sopranos probably my favorite show ever. Yeah, Jets my favorite
Speaker 2: team ever.
Speaker 4: You've always loved Hard Knocks too.
Speaker 2: And Colleen my favorite.
Speaker 3: Hey doing a show with you being lucky enough to
Speaker 3: do that, I uh, really it's pretty cool.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm sad that it's over.
Speaker 5: I am too, But I do think that we have
Speaker 5: one more piece of business do we to get to
Speaker 5: do we? Because when I think about New York and
Speaker 5: the Northeast, I think about the food. People always ask me,
Speaker 5: you know, do I miss Philadelphia and Philly right down
Speaker 5: the street from New York. I say, of course, I
Speaker 5: miss my family, but I miss the sandwiches. I missed
Speaker 5: miss cars. Any type of bread please? So WHOA what
Speaker 5: do we have here?
Speaker 2: Get a camera on this?
Speaker 4: Okay, so we have some food being delivered?
Speaker 2: That is what do we got here?
Speaker 4: Colleen, I honestly don't know what we have is. It's
Speaker 4: a tailor pork roll situation.
Speaker 2: It's a tailor pork roll.
Speaker 4: And disco fries.
Speaker 2: Disco fries.
Speaker 5: Disco fries was not like part of my Philadelphia life.
Speaker 5: So thank you so much, Parker.
Speaker 3: What is on a disco fry? Let's that looks like this?
Speaker 3: Well look at this, Colleen, let's get a picture of this.
Speaker 3: This is basically New Jersey staples. Uh, park can you
Speaker 3: get in the shot there?
Speaker 2: Staples?
Speaker 4: Get out?
Speaker 3: I said in but running staples of New Jersey diners.
Speaker 3: There's nothing more in New Jersey than diners.
Speaker 4: And what do we have here?
Speaker 5: So it's like in a breakfast sandwich of sorts with
Speaker 5: is this tailor pork roll?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it?
Speaker 4: And so uh Taylor pork roll like and jeez.
Speaker 3: That's everything you would ever want in a sandwich. And
Speaker 3: Taylor is a brand of pork but everyone just calls.
Speaker 2: It a tailor, right, I don't know.
Speaker 5: My dad calls it tailor pork roll, like the full name,
Speaker 5: which I think is not popular.
Speaker 3: Where did this come from? By the way, it just
Speaker 3: got wheeled in at it into this studio.
Speaker 10: Is courtesy of the huddle are nice people? Have theres
Speaker 10: that the fun fed and hook us up with all
Speaker 10: the great food from upstairs.
Speaker 2: That is love.
Speaker 10: Mauriel put it together. Climb In Schneider had their hands
Speaker 10: in involved in this. You know, I feel like we
Speaker 10: sh a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Try a bite here, right.
Speaker 2: We were eating with the mic is always weird.
Speaker 4: But I don't know. Do we say by and then
Speaker 4: by yeah?
Speaker 2: Why don't we do that again? Yes?
Speaker 3: Thank you to Matt Schnider, everybody behind the scenes here.
Speaker 3: Thank you to Ken Rogers. Yeah, the NFL Films who
Speaker 3: gave us this great.
Speaker 4: Wearing show hard knock shirt.
Speaker 2: Proudly that we are so obviously.
Speaker 3: I hope we express it a door and we hope
Speaker 3: to be back here again next year. Until then, he
Speaker 3: the call, all right, let's get in on its