WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Setting Sights on Detroit 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.120 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:16.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.280 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World head Hours at 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:30.280 the Star in fris Joe Stock. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:36.280 Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up. Welcome 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:40.040 inside the s WBC Morning Studio. This is Talking Cowboys 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.120 Rob Phillips, joined as always by Mickey Spagnola, who's just 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.400 just joining us. Can't running in? You made it? Is 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.000 this your James con look from the Godfather? That's right, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.519 you better watch out. As I was thinking maybe with 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.600 Sonny Sonny of the godfathers Ny the sunny with the vest, 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:01.440 saying dot was he adopted? Was Sunny adopted in god was? 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.839 He wasn't originally a quarter? Oh? I don't. I don't 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.760 remember Tom Hagan the lawyers, lawyer kind of their guys. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:14.400 Sonny was the Yeah, Sonny was thank you. Yeah, that's 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.360 the World Billiards Finals. I don't know which one. You're well, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.920 we'll see what we can do. We're bringing back to vest. 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:21.800 I wish I had that, wish I had that kind 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.759 of style though it is very Chicago Heights, John Gotti, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.920 thank you. Yeah, it's fantastic. Yeah yeah, absolute plastic. You 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.000 wouldn't you would be surprised how many Mafia people were 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.960 residing in Chicago Heights, Illinois. Okay, yeah, way back in 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.399 the day hunts. Yeah, that's we could do a whole 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.000 show about that. We really could. Parcels used to send 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.080 me somebody, he would send me those ones before he's 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.120 New Jersey. I'd have to go visit. We can go 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.080 back into prohibition. How they were making wine in the basements. Yeah, 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.800 probably really good wine. Yeah, probably that's probably the best wine, 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.320 really good wine at that time. Brian brought us welcome in. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.840 Thank you, appreciate that. KENK. Garrison producing as always, and 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.040 Bill Jones might join us during the show. He's got 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.360 some TV obligations. They'll never start on time as per 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:10.360 usual on Wednesday. Not ripping our TV people. No, they won't. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.639 But no, the traffic it was awful this morning. Me 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:19.959 twice as long to get here. Yeah, you can't pedal that, yeah, 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.280 just cross, I might have done faster. Have you ever 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.239 come to work on a ten speed no paper out 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.720 as a kid? Oh yeah, okay, there you go. It 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.679 wasn't the ten speen though, it was just an old 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.720 pedal bike. Yeah. Mber, he did the push lawnmower too 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.400 with the big basket. Did you have the card and 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:43.720 the spokes? Yes, there's baseball cards. Probably something bad, little 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:48.600 Hopscotch mode, hot kid. Sorry, are you dropping a hint? Yeah, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.280 we're gonna get to football, and I think we're gonna 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.000 move on today. We can talk about how the Cowboys 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:58.400 can try to shake loose this rut they're inoffensively. Yeah, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.480 we can get back into that. But we're gonna mix 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.120 in some Detroit Lions because they're back to practice today 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.520 here at the Star and Frisco. They are getting ready 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.639 for Detroit Sunday noon kickoff at at and T Stadium. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.520 And I think it's about time to look at the 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.400 next opponent and see how they can match up with 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.399 those guys Detroit coming off a big win, a huge win, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.360 their first win of the season, beating the defending AFC 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.920 champion Patriots. I think that shocked everybody. Oh yeah, I honestly, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.480 I don't know about you, Mick. I thought they were 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.440 gonna be owing three rolling in here. The Patriots on 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.200 the road usually pretty good, but Patriots saws two in 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.440 a row, by the way, haven't yes, yes, so okay, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.200 so that puts them where they're at. But one and two, yeah, 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.080 one and two. But you know, with Detroit, there's kind 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.120 of a mixed bag with them. You watched them against 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.600 the Jets, they were awful. You watched them against San Francisco. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.960 They did make some improvement and then they found Carrie 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.840 on Johnson running the football in that New England game, 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.760 so they had a little bit better balance. But defensively, 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.880 if you want to focus on that, rob mean, what 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.720 they're doing to you that, Because everybody seems to have 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.800 a question about the Cowboys offense and how this is 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.040 a defense Bill talked about. It was a defense that 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.200 had plays very well in pass defense, but they're bad 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.680 against the run, which is funny because they've got some 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.960 really big inside guys. Now here's Matt Patricia, who is 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.440 a you know, supposedly a three to four guy. He 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.720 could play hybrid, you know, four to three, and they 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.719 list him as a four to three team and a 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.080 lot like the Pats. Yeah, a lot like the Pats. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.760 So you're gonna get but you're gonna get some big 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.040 inside players and they've drafted a couple of them here 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.960 the last couple of years with a Shawn Robinson and 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.920 Sean Hand those two big inside guys they're missing right now. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.760 And we don't know, Mickey, have you heard anything, I 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.240 know you'd like to read. You read the Detroit Free 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.680 Press that they said anything about Ziggy once at all. Yeah, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.800 I haven't seen anything confirmed. If he's shoulder problem there, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.279 he's been out, Yeah, last couple of weeks he's missed 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.760 with a shoulders probably by far the best pass rushing 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.440 by far, the best pass rusher. So yeah, they've they've 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.919 had to kind of work around not having him in carry. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.480 Hider has been back. He's a guy that you have 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.560 to kind of be a concern with. And then the 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.400 guy they traded for Eli Harrold from San Francisco. So 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.120 they've got some guys that have the ability to rush 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.440 the pasture, but it's those big inside guys. So if 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.479 it's if it's about trying to kind of move some bodies, 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.920 big bodies on big bodies, that's what you're gonna get 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:26.000 this weekend from this Lions matchup. You know, they're linebacker 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.000 Jeron Davis that was a first round pick in the 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:33.240 twenty seventeen draft. He's a he's a fine linebacker. He's 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.160 a big linebacker. He's a physical linebacker. He fits in 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.120 what the what you know, that kind of that New 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.919 England system, what they're trying to do in Detroit. He 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.719 can really really run. You better make sure you account 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.560 for him. He's a guy that used on the Blitz 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.440 quite a bit. So cowboys in the passing situations have 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.279 to be aware of twist stunts up front, a lot 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.840 of movement, and then a linebacker like Davis that can 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.080 that can bring a little pressure that way. You know. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.400 The weird thing about that team is the first two 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.120 games they give up seventy eight points. Yeah, and then 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.600 they play Tom Brady and the Patriots and they give 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.680 up ten. Yeah. So I think their offense really help 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.880 helped them in this way. They turned the ball well. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.440 They also they held the ball for thirty nine minutes 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.200 fifteen seconds. That was running the football. Yeah, they had 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:21.680 they they really found some balance there. But defensively, yeah, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.200 you know, I'm going back to they still have Darius 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.239 Slay out there at corner, Diggs is at safety. Gwinn 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.640 uh uh Glover. Quinn is still that, you know, so 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.839 the safeties are not there, they're they're better. I don't 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.160 I'm not gonna say they're great athletes. They're really banger 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.279 kind of guys. If you think about the days of 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.120 Okay having Cavon Frasier play, that's really kind of what 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.320 I look at. You know, Diggs I think is a 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.120 little bit better of a cover guy and with Quinn 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.280 is more of a just come down and hitch you 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.240 kind of guy. So they'll put Digs in more coverage 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.640 than they will Uh Darius Slay still playing at the corner. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.120 They've got some questions what they're gonna do at nickel. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.840 They went with this kid named Tabor who was a 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.600 second round pick early in the season, and then now 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.200 they've gone to this Tavon Wilson who they got from 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.200 New England. That's a general manager general managers from New England, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.640 so probably a guy they picked up there. But there's 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.119 some questions about who will line up and play nickel 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.000 for you there for the for the Lions, So kind 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.440 of keep an eye on that if that means to 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.800 get Cole Beasley kind of back going in, maybe Tavon 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.520 Austin kind of match up some guys that that might 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.320 be a little bit shaky with their with their coverage. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.720 Mickey said it Tom Brady fourteen to twenty six for 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:39.040 one thirty three, lowest total since Week seventeen of twenty 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.040 fourteen when he only played one half, missed some throws, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.480 miscom guys are open. They tried to attack the middle 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.520 of field what I was talking about with they try 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.920 to attack it because of the safety play. The safeties 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.080 are playing deep, and safeties were playing deep because they 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.760 were worried about Grenkowski and they're worried about the deep 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.520 crossing routes. But they were able to get some pressure 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.240 on Brady. They are able to get a little big 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.400 I had to move a little bit, and then it 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.680 kind of made him have to move, and so he 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.720 was making some throws over the middle that they were 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.080 just way way too high, really out of characteristic for 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.560 the types of throws he generally makes. But that just 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.080 shows you, though, a lot of pressure on the Patriots 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.800 because they got down early in this game, like ten 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.280 to nothing, and then and then the Lions just kept 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.040 they stayed in balance, ran their offense. Finally, it looks 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.840 like for Matthew Stafford's sake, looks like they've got a 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.720 legitimate running back now. They haven't really had that since 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.040 a Reggie Bush, if you want to go that far. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.040 I was at Kyle Field last November when Carrie On 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.840 Johnson shredded my aggies'. He's that type of guy. He 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.640 did that a lot last year For Auburn, they play 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.880 a lot of different backs. I mean that's their thing 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.360 that they're really big on trying to use a lot 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.880 of different backs. But to me, I would just play 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.160 carry on Johnson because he can he can catch the football. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:52.720 You know, he's the one guy you could use him 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.840 out of the backfield. Uh, theo Riddics involved. Look, Garrett Blunt, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.679 I think he's seen his excuse me, I think he's 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.520 seen his better days. So, but I wouldn't be surprised 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.880 if you just see a steady diet of Johnson here 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.080 in this football game. So why were they so bad 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.160 against the Jets? I mean, I know Stafford threw four interception. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.720 Yeah that that that turnovers really bad and plus they 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.000 gotta turnover the first play of the game. Darnold throws it. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.559 He's sprints to his right and throws the ball all 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.240 the way back across the field, he goes for a 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.280 pick six, but the game was close to a point. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.439 And then the Jets the turnovers were just too much 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.120 from what I saw with with watching that game. Well, 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.560 they had trouble stopping the run against the Jets too. Yeah, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.559 I mean Crowwell kind of lit them up a little bit. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.800 And uh yea, they gave up forty eight to the Jets, 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.200 gave up thirty to San Francisco. Yeah, lost both those games. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.480 And then look, it's the strange, lady nature of this NFL. No, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.040 that's the team. Yeah, maybe it's the O and two 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.240 teams where two teams did great last week. By the way, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.280 we all could we all could have retired making money 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.800 bet and the uh the O and two teams last week? 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:04.240 So you want to go with the O and three 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.839 this week? I think maybe three left Houston, right, it's 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:13.959 one of them, Houston, Arizona, Houston playing Indie, Is that right? 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.200 Something like that. I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm making 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.880 the third team that I'm trying to keep. I'm trying 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.240 to just pay attention to this team out here. It's 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.680 got figured. They got one win, so they're not dangerous. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.680 Yeah exactly. Well, yeah, and you mentioned it, Mick. Even 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.760 in this last game against New England, Detroit averaged. They 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.360 gave up four point seven yards per carry to the Pats. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.079 So I mean, look, maybe there's opportunities for Zeke and 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.520 this game saddle them up. The Cowboys need more than 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.120 forty plays on offense though, that's all New England got. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.640 They never got in a rhythm. Forty plays. That's extremely, 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.240 extremely low, especially for a Patriots team. How do we 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.680 get this team in a rhythm? Mean, it's where I 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.880 was going between us. How do we get this team 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.000 in a rhythm? Do we have a you know, let's 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.720 try and find some solutions here. You know, I'm I'm 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.679 I'm the big proponent of trying to get number ten 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.599 more involved in the fence. I wrote about that yesterday 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.040 and I snapps up again. Yeah, just give me a 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.160 little juice, Give me a little juice running the football, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.679 are throwing him the football? I'm you know, he you know, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.679 if Troy Aikman's telling me, this guy's better than just 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.280 a toy player, I'm gonna buy Troy Aikman what he's 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.760 selling there. And I see it myself. I think we 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.520 all see it with our own eyes but if we 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.280 went off of what we saw in Oxnard, we saw 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.240 him line up on the outside and make plays. Well, 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.160 we saw him make a big play in the Giants game. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.040 I mean he's capable. I mean he made a couple. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.679 I mean the comeback or out stuff like that. Does 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.520 it it mean? Does it mean can you go no huddle? 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.880 Can you force? Can you force the pace here a 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.360 little bit? I think he is that a I don't 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.560 know if that's if that's the answer, because I used 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.440 so much like a personnel. Yeah, and I kind of 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.640 liked what Zach Martin said yesterday. Yeah, it's like a 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.080 lot of times when you get into ruts, maybe you're 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.640 doing too much, and you pull back and say, okay, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.800 let's do a little bit very well instead of trying 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.280 to do a lot mediocre. And that's and I know 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:07.120 that's that's counter what everybody's saying, because it's true enough. Yeah, exactly, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.040 Well what about just getting back to basics and and 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.520 and doing a better job? Now? That was his point, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.240 and he said, you know, my time in the NFL 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.280 or my time in college, when you struggled, maybe you 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.320 pull back and just say, okay, let's reduce what we're 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.920 trying to do and make it a little bit simpler 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.680 and do it well. Well, that's to Rob's point yesterday 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.880 about four wide receivers, you know, find your find your 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.400 best for, find what really works, find who ever Dak 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.080 Prescott's comfortable with, and go with that. And I don't 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.600 disagree with Zach Martin. But you're right, Mickey, Uh, you 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.559 know Vick and Ventura is not going to be too 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.240 happy with that. Now. It's gonna be calling us, but 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.000 probably calling Zach Martin right now. What heck are you 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.600 talking about? Vic, And give us a call, by the way, Yeah, 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:55.160 we're not exotic enough. And maybe you're trying to do 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.920 too many things and you're not doing And you know 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.880 the same thing with the receivers. Just what you said, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.400 Oh let's get them all involved, and you're getting nobody involved. Yeah. Yeah. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.120 But what I brought up yesterday though, is like do 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.400 they know yet? Do they know have enough guys separated 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.439 beyond the two that we've talked about. We know Beasley, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.640 we know we want to get Tavon Austin more involved 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:20.240 if we're if if we're in charge, but beyond that, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.199 like I think you brought it up yesterday. Is there 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.040 a lot of separation between the rest of the group, 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.040 Well to say, okay, there there isn't, but maybe you 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.920 create separation by I mean I don't. I don't. I 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.560 didn't bring my game stats. Did anybody have more than 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:40.120 five targets wide receivers? Who had the most targets of 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.160 the wide receivers? Was it Thompson Beasley? The team was 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:48.840 eight targets? Seven? Okay? And how many catches? Seven? Seven? After? No, 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.000 hang on after I'm looking at the wrong game book. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:56.240 That was you know, I got like Mickey right now, 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.440 I got way too many papers going on. I don't 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.880 have my game and I didn't bring enough. Yeah, but 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.480 I just off the top of my head, I don't 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.439 think anybody like Michael Gallup one or four. I think 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:12.000 three or four. Yea one mistake and it's glaring. And 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.760 if you get eight maybe, okay, you you dismissed the 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.480 one mistake. When you're only getting four, you don't have 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.000 an opportunity. Same thing with Blake Jarwin. Yeah, you know 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.960 that was one target right turned into a hot potato interception, right, 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.920 you know, So that's what everybody remembers. But if you 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:35.040 don't get enough opportunities. You know, the who was the 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.560 guy that said he was Was it TiO that he 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.080 was a volume receiver. Yeah, you have to throw him 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.400 a lot of passes to catch a lot, catch a lot. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.640 That's that's nothing wrong with the volume opportunities. I got it. 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.360 Beasley led all receivers on the Cowboys with five targets 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:53.880 five three catches. Yeah, there's my point. Swim had the most. No, 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.040 I'm sorry, Zeke had the most eight three catches. Swam 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.640 seven targets. A lot of short stuff in that game, obviously, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.680 and some of that's the way Seattle plays. They play 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.960 like Dallas. They try to they try to shrink the field, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.440 funnel everything inside. Absolutely, but you got to take advantage 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.440 of deep shots when they're there. I mean, ze Seattle targets. Yeah, yes, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.640 I know you hate and you hate the target rule. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.000 I mean where they throw aways. I mean I remember 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.600 him dropping one three catches for eleven yards, stepped out 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.960 of bounces, two out of bounds. That doesn't count as 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.320 a target. Yeah, he caught two out of bounds if 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.000 you want to count that. You know that would have 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:30.600 been and out of bounce on one time, and they 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.200 threw him the ball on the sideline, that's right, and 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.640 that should have been explosive play. The touchdown that got nullified, Yeah, 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.640 that should have been one. But that's not a deep shot. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.520 That was a sense of where you are? Yeah, for sure. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.200 See when I first looked at that and I saw 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:49.720 the play, he ran right past the is the line judge? Yeah, 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.400 whoever the dude is on the line of scrimmage? Right 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.600 the dude, And I said, well, no, wonder he got 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.120 called for it. He probably stepped on the guy's toes. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.440 But it was ten more yards downfield where he ran 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.920 out of bounds before he caught the ball. So it's like, 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:07.320 what are you doing? Yeah, you know, I'm just weird. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.520 Is it is? It? Really? Is it? The big place 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.360 is that? It's that what's hurting us, the explosive place. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.680 I think he's just not enough of. I mean, yeah, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.640 I think you know, I'm asking a question I already 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.000 know the answer to. You need some here and there. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.560 You know, you don't have to throw nine routes all 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.600 day long, but you got to be able to do 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.120 what Seattle did. I mean, cowboys trying to shrink the 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.400 field too. But all of a sudden there's a bust 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.840 in Weston Wilson hits a fifty two yard touchdown. I mean, 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.080 that's that's something you need every now and then, don't 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.120 you think? No, No, I don't disagree with you. I 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.760 can't remember the last time we've seen a receiver catch 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:42.440 a ball on the move and and really go you 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.680 know that that you know that we've seen, you know, 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.960 the slant routes and stuff. It seems like they catch 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.440 the ball for nine and it's that's it, right, there's 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.160 no there's no extension. You know, and say what you 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.920 want about Dez Bryant. That was a violent runner when 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:01.080 he caught a slant. You don't get that extra seven, eight, ten, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.560 fifteen yards that a lot of teams get when they 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.600 throw slants a guy who can break a tackle. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.440 that's been a that's been a big problem for them. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.919 But I also you go back, you know, there's so 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.879 many things, but Mickey's right about the protection. He's been 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.680 saying that from the word go. You know, this offensive 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.360 line has struggled with that. And when when he when 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.520 they struggle, it seems the quarterback struggles, it seems the 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.720 receivers struggle. They can't get everybody playing together. They cannot 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:34.400 get everything to work right altogether. The finish has been 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.119 just horrendous. You said that Monday morning, and it was 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.080 interesting that Jason Garrett I thought he echoed what you said, 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.560 and you know, a different way. I mean, he said, Look, 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.280 there's not one thing wrong with this offense right now. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.359 I mean you go back and watch it, and there's 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:52.240 something different every snap. There's something where you go cod well, oh, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.600 you know, Mickey's right, the guy goes out of bounds, 0:17:55.720 --> 0:18:00.760 the receiver drops a ball that's well thrown. You know, 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.520 it ends up being an interception. You just can't. This 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.400 team just can't survive any of that stuff. And when 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.959 you and when when those things happen, it it leads 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.040 to the fact that they're converting third downs at twenty 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.480 three point five percent. Yeah. That is just like awful 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.640 second worse than the league, behind only Arizona. It's awful. Yeah, 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.680 and you can't. You can't win that way, especially when 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.359 it's manageable and they've had some man and now the 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.440 one game, I'm okay, Carolina, we're behind the Chaine. Right 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.359 to me that they weren't that much behind the Chaine, 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.640 not this last not at all. No. I think they 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.560 had maybe six point third downs where it was third 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:41.560 and five or shorter. Yeah, and I think they only 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.520 got two or three converted. Might be the only three 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.160 they did converted. They caught a huge break on third 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.400 and six with the twelve men on the field penalty 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.600 to make it third and one. This team converts third 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:53.719 and one in their sleeps handed to Z. But what 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.840 happens they don't block the mic linebacker that that they 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.159 just can't have that. It's just it's it's it's those 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.040 things where it's so fresh. I'm sure that you know 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.680 that Joe and Flower Mount is also disappointed watching the 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.080 game and going, you know, gosh, they just don't do 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.080 any You know, they don't because we're the same way. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:12.879 You watch it and we go back and watch it 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.040 again and we're like, oh, man, I didn't notice that. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.080 I didn't know, you know, and you kind of just 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.840 and you're thinking, Okay, now I understand why they're twenty 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.960 three percent on third down because they just don't. They 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:28.040 just don't do enough to even give themselves a chance 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.400 to convert and say and then the other thing is 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.679 is everybody makes a mistake. All teams make mistakes. They 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.159 have plays, but you have to be good enough to 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:41.639 overcome your mistakes. And they're not there yet. No, I 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.119 don't know if they get there. You know sometimes on 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.720 defense they're over there. It's they can overcome their mistakes, 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.080 except when you don't cover a guy on a fifty 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.200 two yard touchdown past. You know, that's kind of hard 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.760 to overcome. Absolutely. Hey, guys, by the way, too, if 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.159 you go back to the lines real quick. I think 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.199 it's gonna be tough to sacked Stafford this week. I 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.200 really do. Why that he gets the ball out of 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.320 his hands so quick. I mean, it's something I was 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.719 watching Mickey just made me think of that with with 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:10.960 the way they play the receivers, you know, with a 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.760 bunch formations and stuff, and they scatter and the ball, 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.520 I mean, it's coming out of there in a hurry. There. 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.920 The only way that I think the Cowboys sacked this 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.240 sack him is if in fact that there's a mistake 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.199 on the outside or they get him, they get him 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.600