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Speaker 1: Hey, Professional Homegirls, hope all is cute. It's Shagara Ebenet

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Speaker 1: and we are back with another episode. As you know,

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Speaker 1: last week was the season finale for season one. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I learned so much and had so so so many

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Speaker 1: A team, okay, I am interested in knowing what were

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Speaker 1: YouTube hold Me Down, Don't hold me up Now. This week,

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Speaker 1: we are having a rewind episode as we revisit the

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Speaker 1: insightful story of our guest experiences working in a sex BROTHO.

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Speaker 2: Okay and y'all, it was some.

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Speaker 1: Teeth prepared to be intrigued, enlightened, and perhaps even surprise

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Speaker 1: child as we dived into this thought provoking topic. Don't

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Speaker 1: miss out on the chance to gain fresh insights and

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Speaker 1: perspectives because I worked in a sex brothel starting now,

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Speaker 1: so I am super excited about this episode because my

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Speaker 1: guests from episode one sixty five I had multiple abortions.

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Speaker 2: Hit me up in my DM saying that she is

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Speaker 2: ready to share her story about working at a sex

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Speaker 2: brothe now remind y'all, I was high as hell off

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Speaker 2: and edible. So I was like, wait, what happened? Yo?

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Speaker 2: It took me so long in the process what you said,

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, wait, what does she say? Oh my? Well,

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Speaker 2: once again, thank you so much for sharing a story. Again,

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Speaker 2: I'm great. Thank you so much for having me. I

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Speaker 2: love the conversations you have. I feel like I'm a

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Speaker 2: part of them when I listen to your show. So right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's just like girl talk and life talk and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's given Oprah from the hood. No, yes, you know,

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Speaker 2: like new aged Oprah, like it's given before Karash. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love it. So thank you again forrabbing me back.

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Speaker 2: And of course, so what made you want to share

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Speaker 2: your story. Well, I've been writing about my story for

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Speaker 2: a while now, yeah, and you know, like being a

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Speaker 2: little more open and about experiences and like processing different things.

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Speaker 2: And it's just such a great like I mean, people,

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Speaker 2: there's these are things people don't know I people don't

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Speaker 2: think of it, and I feel like I have a

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Speaker 2: movie on my hands. But anyway, yeah, it's just a

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Speaker 2: good topic. It's it's a it's a hush hush taboo

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Speaker 2: topic and I live a life that like people don't

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Speaker 1: I always say one of my favorite things about the

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Speaker 1: professional homegirl is one of the main reasons why I

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Speaker 1: encourage people to share these stories because you never know

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Speaker 1: how your storyline can be somebody else's lifeline exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what's up. That's fire. So what were

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on sex workers before you worked at a brothel.

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Speaker 2: Before I worked at a brothel, I was a dancer.

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Speaker 2: M m, so I worked in strip clubs. I had

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Speaker 2: been doing it maybe a few years prior. So it's

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Speaker 2: always been like a green light. You know. Sex workers

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Speaker 2: are real workers. They get through service just like anybody else. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I gotta hang out with you, man, because man, you

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Speaker 2: But I feel like you lived a full life. I

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Speaker 2: It's given diamond, Yeah, the name this overall overall. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like I respect, Like it's a great hustle. It's empowering,

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Speaker 2: like if you're hot, fucking right, I want to ask

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Speaker 2: it's a good one. So what are your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: decriminalizing sex work? Oh? Man, I really it's like it's

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Speaker 2: like it's it's a real job. Like people who do

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Speaker 2: you know, they it could lead to like sex trafficking

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Speaker 2: and like abuse and like just being disployed. And if

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Speaker 2: backs you up, it's safer. It just makes more sense. Right.

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Speaker 2: But because it's you know, it's not really looked at

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Speaker 2: as a traditional profession, and I mean it is the

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Speaker 2: oldest profession, you know, it's like going to get a haircut,

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Speaker 2: but I need like titties in my face, or I

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Speaker 2: need a pedicure, or I need I need a low job. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like any of those things that I could need today

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Speaker 2: and I could pay to get all those awesome Did

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Speaker 2: your friends know about this? Yeah, so my I told

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Speaker 2: my friends. Let's see, they knew I danced, like when

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Speaker 2: I first started dancing. They knew that was a thing,

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Speaker 2: like my siblings working at a brothel. This happened when

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Speaker 2: I was out of the country, so nobody knew about it. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: I let you know, certain people know just because you know,

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Speaker 2: there's so many cool things to talk about, and it's

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Speaker 2: like you have all these fun secrets and you can't

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Speaker 2: have these conversations because you're afraid. Like, look that my

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Speaker 2: friends love me. They know who I am, right, but yes, now,

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Speaker 2: most of like my close friends, they know. What were

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Speaker 2: their reactions. Let's see, I don't think they were surprised.

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Speaker 2: It was cool most because, like you know, I can

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Speaker 2: so I don't even think it was a surprise. It

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Speaker 2: how did that make you feel? How did that work

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Speaker 2: the details. I'm just warm it up. But how long

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Speaker 2: did you work there? Let me think? So, I want

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Speaker 2: to say a total of like three months. M I

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Speaker 2: was abroad. I'm not going to say which country, but

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Speaker 2: in the country I was abroad certain areas it was

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Speaker 2: was just so curious. I'm like, dude, you just gonna

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Speaker 2: try it. So I did it for about three months.

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Speaker 2: So how did you end up there? Like Google? You know,

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Speaker 2: I did a little Google search. I read some reviews

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Speaker 2: of different establishments. I read like blogs from other sex

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Speaker 2: workers and other countries and other you know, just other

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Speaker 2: culture as far as like what you can see online,

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Speaker 2: like you know, like answer questions and I yeah, I

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Speaker 2: jumped on the triumph and took my stuff down there,

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Speaker 2: and it was interesting, you know, not knowing because when

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Speaker 2: you're a dancer, you just go into a club and

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Speaker 2: you say, hi, I would like to dance on your

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Speaker 2: stage this evening like so, and you know, most of

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Speaker 2: the time they audition you a lot of times. Most

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Speaker 2: of the times they do, they'll be like all right,

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Speaker 2: let me see you do a dance or something, or

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Speaker 2: like oh you're hot, come on in like whatever. But

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, like she's the audition for this, yo.

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Speaker 1: That's my next question, like did you have to like

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Speaker 1: because when I was doing research on this, because there

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Speaker 1: are popular sex workers, they talk about their journey and

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Speaker 1: working in sex process and I was like, damn, Like

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Speaker 1: some of them had to like audition, some of them

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Speaker 1: had to like find an application, go on to interview.

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Speaker 2: So what was that process? Like? So the place I

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Speaker 2: what's she called, not the house mom, the head bitch. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: that's great, it's different, it's legal like whatever. So I

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Speaker 2: went in and I think I filled out paperwork, nothing crazy,

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Speaker 2: just like basic like you know, information, and they have

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Speaker 2: to do a background check on you too, right. See,

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Speaker 2: they didn't do a background check on me. I did

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Speaker 2: have a visa for that country, so that they saw

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Speaker 2: to the doctor and get a physical and SCD check

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Speaker 2: against tests all that nine. Yeah, and then after you

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Speaker 2: had like a week or so to get that paperwork

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Speaker 2: are there are going to requirements?

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Speaker 1: Because I know I was reading about Brothos in Nevada.

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Speaker 1: They was saying how you couldn't have any felonies or

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Speaker 1: anything on your record, but then a certain timeframe, so.

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Speaker 2: Because of the visa I had, because the visa I

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Speaker 2: there with felonies. So maybe that like for them was

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Speaker 2: like you know, you're in the clear, you're eligible to

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Speaker 2: be here. You're different, you know, from a different nation. Right.

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Speaker 2: But as far as like their rules, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I'm sure in that country it

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Speaker 2: was it's like the same you got to get a

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Speaker 2: background check and a license and all that at some point.

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Speaker 1: Right, So when you saw, like when you walked into

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Speaker 1: the brotho, like, what did it look like like? Did

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Speaker 1: you like a normal house or was it like sex out.

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Speaker 2: The So it was like a house, this particular one.

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Speaker 2: You go in and it was a house that had

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Speaker 2: two levels and then like a kind of like a

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Speaker 2: second and a half level anyway, but it was like old,

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Speaker 2: old like dark paneling or dark wallpaper. You walk in

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Speaker 2: to the one side, there's like a room with a

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Speaker 2: then like to the left there was like the intro

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Speaker 2: sit in these two separate rooms. There was like a

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Speaker 2: kind of like a dressing room, like a lounge. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But this was like a complete and I've you know,

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Speaker 2: But in the strip club, right, and so it's different.

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Speaker 2: especially because I wasn't from that country, what are you

427
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: doing here? Like right, Like so then you're like telling

428
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: stories and like it's fun.

429
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: But I also feel like it's kind of intimate too,

430
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: Like it is yeah, and not just intimate sexually, but like.

431
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're like shutting off from the whatever it

432
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: is that these people come in for. Like a lot

433
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: of them are coming after work for work after a

434
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: night out at the bar, Like you just went out

435
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: with your boys. You don't want to harass it, Like

436
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: if you don't have harass people at the bar and

437
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: try to get them to come sleep with you and

438
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: then like deal with that in the morning. You just

439
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: want to like go us tonight and like go home, right,

440
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: Like why not go down the street to this place

441
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: and meet someone that you can interact with for thirty

442
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: minutes because that's really all you need and be on

443
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: your way. So there were you know, a lot of

444
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of good conversations. Silly you know,

445
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: people are people are great. That's how I know you

446
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 2: from up north Because you want to say harassed bitches?

447
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: I did. I did, Like, come on, bitch, you not

448
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 2: how we talk of her, and I don't want you know,

449
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: other people that's not that's we don't say things like

450
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: that anymore. But yeah, so up north, like bitches is

451
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: like saying niggas. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm not trying to

452
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: be mean, like yeah, so if she slip up y'all,

453
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: it's it's a term of endearment because I always say bitches.

454
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm not trying to be like, you know, right,

455
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: what there were rules? Where were the rules at the brothels?

456
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: Let's see, what were the rules? No? Unprotected sex? Definitely,

457
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: they really like you know, no unprotected sex. I really

458
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: think that's it. Like no drugs obviously, like no drugs

459
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: or you know, alcohol. There were some brothels that did

460
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: have like bars like downstairs and like they allowed drinking,

461
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: but not all of them were the same. So the

462
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: one I was in, you know, no drinks unless someone's

463
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: like they're coming in, they're paying for the Like, hey,

464
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: this guy's coming, he's paying me x amount of dollars.

465
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: He wants to bring champagne. He's gonna be here for

466
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: four hours, right, you know what I mean. But you know,

467
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: I've had people come in with like their weeed pen

468
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: and like, you know, I've had people's smoke cigarettes. You know,

469
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to do this fucking grass. But as

470
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: far as like rules on what you did behind your

471
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: closed door, like you could really do whatever you want,

472
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: like you know, hm hmmm, as long as you weren't

473
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: doing anything illegal like illegal drugs and you know, like

474
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: that's it, right were you don't any black girl there? No,

475
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: so they're there were a few. Two of them were African,

476
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: but they lived in that country. Hmmm. I think there

477
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: was another African American in there, like at one point,

478
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: but no I wasn't. There's girls from all over and

479
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: like I was so nervous. I thought they were all

480
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: gonna be like these bombshell like big titty like right,

481
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: you know, white girl or like from eastern Europe or something,

482
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: and they blewis I mean there were a lot of

483
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: the girls in there were like a lot of them

484
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: were gay mm hmm and had girlfriends. But they did

485
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: this for work a lot. Yeah, didn't even think of that.

486
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: There were a lot there. Yeah, right, I'm like, okay,

487
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: so I get it though you don't like dick romantically,

488
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: but you'll take dig and like perform for money and

489
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: for a job, and like you know, a lot of

490
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: like hate men. They're gonna like lead them on and

491
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: do whatever. So but they're gonna be somewhat confusing because

492
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: you can't control the body if it reacts as certain way. Yeah.

493
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: And I do remember talking to one girl and she

494
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: said she connects better with women, she's always loved women.

495
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: But she also like was you know, the dancer and

496
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: moved over into the brothel. And then being that it's

497
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: it does it's looked at differently in the country that

498
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: they're in. It was kind of like, ah, it's just

499
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: like another gig, right, you know you kind of look

500
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: at sex as like sometimes I look at it as

501
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: like a sport, Like I'm performing a sport with an

502
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: end goal. My end goal is to get this person

503
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: off and like have as much fun in this chunk

504
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: of time, all right, And it's not like you gotta

505
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: be able to take a way like the romantic part

506
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: of it and the you know, sex is only for procreating, right,

507
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, And what was your schedule like, because I

508
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: know you said that you change your shift, but like,

509
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: did you do this every day or I've worked? It depends,

510
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: Like some weeks I would work maybe three days or

511
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: three nights. I worked. In the beginning it was like five.

512
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: I would go in at five, but then eventually I

513
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: started working like ten to two. There were times where

514
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: you would just be like, I've pulled twelve hour days there.

515
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: Oh wow. There were some times where I was like

516
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: I lost track of time and you're just in it,

517
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: and like even if you're not working the whole time,

518
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: like you might sit there and like I'd bring my

519
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: laptop so it's like all right, well, no one's coming

520
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: in right now. It's kind of dead I'm just gonna

521
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: sit here for three hours. I'm like okay, and then

522
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: someone might pop in, like and just the fuck around

523
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: because no one knows me out here. I don't have

524
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: a life. I do what I want. I'm traveling. There

525
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: were times I just did be in there all day

526
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, all right, you tell down to

527
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: the desk like, I'm off for a couple hours. I'm

528
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: gonna take a nap up in one of these here rooms, right,

529
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run out and get some lunch. I'll be

530
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: back and if someone comes in and you'll be like, okay, yeah,

531
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: put me back in the rotation or whatever, like whatever.

532
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: But my schedule kind of made your own schedule. It

533
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: was tough, though, Like I will say, you know, we're

534
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: meant to sleep at night and be up during the day,

535
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: so m hmmm. It was tough trying to be productive

536
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: during the day and like work out and all that

537
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: and then go into work at ten and then get

538
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: off when the sun's coming up. But then like when

539
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: you get up or when you get off, sometimes you

540
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: can't make it sleep right away. So now you're that's eleven,

541
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: and now you're like, fuck, I didn't sleep but I

542
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: gotta work and get ready. It set, you know, like right,

543
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: little janky a minute, but then you just take days off. Right.

544
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: Did you feel like it was a competitive spirit there

545
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 2: because I can't imagine how many girls were there. No,

546
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: not at all. And that's why I was so chill,

547
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: because at the you know, if you're in a club,

548
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: you're competing, you're up, you're walking around, you gotta get right.

549
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: But here you just go in. Anybody, anybody, this is me.

550
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: Anybody want okay, cool, I'll be over here. Call me.

551
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Like you don't have to like convince anybody anything, because

552
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean, guys just want to get off right when

553
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: you're telling them you're a special at your services, like

554
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: they don't give a fuck, Like come on, I'll give

555
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: you that extra whatever dollars anyway, just like and go yeah,

556
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean. So it wasn't and

557
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: then you know, the girls were there. Was never like oh,

558
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: she's sleeping with my customer or whatever, not that I experienced,

559
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: you know, right, sometimes you have someone that will sleep

560
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: with one girl and then go right back downstairs and

561
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: like pick another one. It's like get like three of

562
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: them in real quick and go home. Yeah, damn. So

563
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: what did a good we look like for you? A

564
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: good week? The most I made in one week was

565
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: about and that was maybe like four shifts. I want

566
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: to say, like eight thousand dollars, nine thousand dollars, bitch,

567
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars before niggas, Oh no, night nights, nights, days, oh,

568
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: four days. I mean it's so good, though, eight thousand dollars.

569
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: I made a lot of money in a very short

570
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: amount of time when I was over there, and obviously

571
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: when I you know, didn't convert to what it, you know, right,

572
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: whatever the money, you know, the conversion kind of made

573
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 2: it look like less. But for what I'm over there,

574
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, doing I'm traveling, I'm not literally just hanging

575
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: out with people at night and right, So wait, so

576
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: how much could you? Was that for three months? How

577
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: much did you make it three months? Oh? Yeah? She

578
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: about to flex on us, yoire no, but now I'm kidding,

579
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 2: I have to be after this episode, bitch is gonna

580
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: be at the brothos man I find out. I want

581
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: to say, in that three months time, I mean about

582
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: like thirty thirty five thousand dollars what which converted to

583
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: twenty some thousand, maybe a little less now I don't

584
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: know what it would convert to because this was years ago,

585
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: but yeah, it was Uh, it was lit. How much

586
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: did you have to pay the brotho? Like, how is

587
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: that system set up? So they would you'd have your

588
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: set whatever the price was, and just like at the club,

589
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 2: they get a certain percentage right then whatever they upgrade,

590
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: if a customer does the deluxe or upgrade, you keep

591
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: all that, you know or any to keep all that.

592
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: So sometimes you might just get a basic you know

593
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: booking and then by the end of it, you've made

594
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: like an extra couple hundred or you know, extraft to

595
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: hear extra whatever they are just in tips and you know,

596
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: talking having a conversation, the person might be like, oh,

597
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: you're cool, here's an extra hundred dollars, go get your

598
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: nails sent. Like but the club had their set percentage

599
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: that they would take, which was it was fair. It

600
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: wasn't as much because I know in Nevada they take

601
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: like they do fifty percent off and want no. Ye,

602
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: it was less than that, Like I wouldn't have been Nevada,

603
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: Like I don't I've never worked in the US doing that.

604
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: This was just a moment in my experiences. But I

605
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: feel like what I've heard about Nevada is it's very

606
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: like I always hear negative things, like they take a

607
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: lot of money. You have to like, yeah, they make

608
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: you work, Like I always hear negative things. Yeah, like

609
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say the owner name, but this nigga

610
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: is taking fifty percent off and you gotta fuck out.

611
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: I said home now, Oh absolutely not. Yeah. I worked

612
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: that was owned by a woman. M there you go,

613
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, owned by a woman. I did work. I

614
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: went to another city one weekend and worked at a

615
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: different place. They took a little bit more money. I

616
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: think it was run by men. It was just like different.

617
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: I feel like I got really lucky with the place

618
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: I went to. It was so laid back and chill

619
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: and like, hmmm, well that ran it were just chill

620
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: like you. Then when I went to the other one,

621
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: it was in like another you know, another city. I'm like, hmmm,

622
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: I wonder what the rest of them are like if

623
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: I go to the city or that city, Like, are

624
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: they more like in your pockets and in your shit?

625
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: But you blessed with a good one? Yeah, So what

626
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: are some things that you wouldn't do. So I am

627
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: not a fan of like anal. Yeah, I ain't doing

628
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: no anal. No, I I'm not kind of thing no anal.

629
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: I mean as far as like any of the like

630
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: the fetish stuff like or like whips and chains and all,

631
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: like you know, you can like tie me up a

632
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: little bit. I don't mind like certain things like that.

633
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: But you know, I feel like anal was the biggest

634
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: and I didn't let people go down on me. Yeah,

635
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: certain people, like there were people that were recurring customers

636
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: or like you know, you just get like a feeling

637
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: and you're just like fuck it, I trust it and

638
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: then you you don't regret it. But not not every

639
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: person could, like you know, and I didn't. I didn't

640
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: kiss unless like they paid me extra. So yeah, it's

641
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: hard to like have sex you're not kissing right, Oh wow, Yeah,

642
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: just kissing is kind of intimate, So you don't know

643
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: what niggas mouths ben right, Like we did provide like

644
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: tooth brushes and flaws and like mouthwash in the rooms too,

645
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: but yeah, anything else I wouldn't do. I don't think

646
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: so really just like anal, but when they go down

647
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: you are they using because they have like condos for

648
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: the tongue, right, they have dental dams. Yeah, yeah, they

649
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: do have dentle dams. So what type of clients did

650
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: you have? Like, but who? So everybody, Like, I mean

651
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: there were like I took a lot of virginities. I

652
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: did took a lot of virginities. People coming from the office,

653
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: people coming from school, people that just everyday, people just

654
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: coming and going. I mean people from India, Asia, Africa,

655
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: all over the world. You know, I'm a lot of

656
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: people didn't know where I was from by looking at me. Yeah,

657
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: kind of because then they're like, oh, I guess I

658
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: gotta find out. But yeah, just people you know, young, old,

659
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: not too I don't think I really had been with

660
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: anyone like super old, but like all I would say

661
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: between the ages of like eighteen, which you had to

662
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: be to get in and like yeah sixty five. So yeah,

663
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: people from from all over really just every day. And

664
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: then you'd be like, dang, like everyday people and they

665
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: just walking down the street and they go on this

666
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: building and here they're getting their dickstock. That's crazy. And

667
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: then me too, like I would leave work and just

668
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: be a regular as bitch, and like you know, I'd

669
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: get off early, so I'd go get breakfast and like

670
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: go do some errands and I'd just be out and about,

671
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: Like no one even knows that I was just up

672
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: like fucking ten different people last night. Like that's just

673
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: crazy to think about. Like what I'm saying, you just

674
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: can't judge a books cover, Like, well, how many pretty

675
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: dicks have you seen? I know you see a lot

676
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: of seen. There's some good ones, Yes, I would say

677
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: I saw more not so good ones, like not like

678
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: there are some pretty ones, but a lot of like

679
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: different shapes and sizes. And I think I want to

680
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: like write a book about this or like make something

681
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: about this because there's so many dick sizes, Like you know,

682
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: you have the ones that like go in like like

683
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: any belly, like any audi kind of situation. They're usually

684
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: found on people that have a little bit more like

685
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: belly fat and like the pupa area. You know. I

686
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: wish I could see our faces. Uh, A lot of

687
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: because of you know, I wasn't in the US, A

688
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: lot of people were not circumcised, which I mean I've

689
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: I've dealt with that like in my personal life before,

690
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: Like I had a partner, you know, way before I

691
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: was working at rothelo that wasn't circumcised. So there's a

692
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: lot of that no no, no, by like any extra

693
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: meat child. Yeah, it's you know, sometimes it's a lot

694
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: like help girl and like I hate stereotype and ship.

695
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: But I had a guy from Africa. I already knew

696
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: it and oh my god, like we had to cancel

697
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: because it just wasn't going at yeah, because it's two

698
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: goddamn big on that extra meat so big we had

699
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: to cancel and he just went on and like picked

700
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: somebody else. But it was just like, I mean, it

701
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, no, we have to this square.

702
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: How big is there? That's like a the size of

703
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 2: the jar amazing jar opening. Oh he would have fucked

704
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 2: your ship up. I know. I was just like it's

705
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: you know, loub and all that. I'm like, it got

706
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: in the shower. I'm like, I listen, nah, money back.

707
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. Nah, what was

708
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: your favorite experience? Oh? Oh, you was in love with

709
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: this one. And I only remember because I just I

710
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: was just writing about it the other day or like

711
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: rereading some of the stuff I've been writing. So I'm

712
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: writing a book about this and about my uh, basically

713
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: taking my journal entries from that time and turning them

714
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: into like short stories.

715
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Abrode can support.

716
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: That's amazing. So I had someone, oh man, he I

717
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: don't even I don't know his name, Like he was

718
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 2: never seen him before, huh. Came in at like five thirty,

719
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: strolling in in the morning, just like I just remember

720
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: being like half awake and like, oh, there's someone here.

721
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: They want to hang okay, And it was just like

722
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: the energy that went between us was like something I

723
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: hadn't experience, and this was a stranger. So it was

724
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: just like like we barely even spoke words to each other,

725
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: but we just had like this really good energy. And

726
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: like I like broke the rules, like I let him

727
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: go down on me. So I was just like, ah,

728
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: I just remember being mesmerized. After he left, he was

729
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: like he was Greek and he had like uh oh

730
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: he was cute too. He was Greek, really cute. Barely

731
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: spoke any words, like we barely exchanged words. It was

732
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: just like energy and I'll never forget that. And like

733
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: when he when he left, I think he was going

734
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: he worked in like like construction or something where you

735
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: get up early as hell, like he's up early, he's

736
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: going into work. He had on like a like a vest,

737
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: like a bright orange like you know, like vest or

738
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: something like work boots, like steal top boots. And he

739
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: came in for forty five minutes and yeah, that was

740
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: it was like a thief in the night or some shit.

741
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: He just came in like, oh, I know what happened.

742
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: He made me square all over the place. Oh wow,

743
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: over at Grinnan. Yeah, it was yeah, I forgot to

744
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: throw down in there that I had like an amazing orgasm.

745
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: It was just like and you know, I don't you

746
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: don't really have them when you're I mean I didn't

747
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: have them every time. It was just kind of like

748
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: you can get you off and get you on your way,

749
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: but right to be able to have like a really

750
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: good one, and like I had to like flip the

751
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: mattress when I was done and like notify the front desk,

752
00:46:53,320 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: like you may want to get someone up there. You

753
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 2: should have been giving him some money, I know, like shit,

754
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: tip you come back. He ever come back and never

755
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: saw him again. That was towards the end of my

756
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: time there, so maybe within a few weeks I was

757
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: like that done. Exploring that country, but I never came back. Wow,

758
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: there was a few. There were a few where it

759
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: was just like like just really nice or like the

760
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: conversation was cool, and then they ended up extending their

761
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: stay and next thing you know, you're just like lying around,

762
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: like not even having set like laying around like talking

763
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: and laughing and like being ridiculous.

764
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 5: Right, nice to meet you, have a nice day.

765
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: What was your worst experience? Oh man, let's see my worst.

766
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: I would I can't think of any in particular, but

767
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: I do know that there were times where it was

768
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: like if someone came in and they were just super wasted.

769
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 2: It's like Friday night, like three am and they're coming

770
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: in with all their boys, and like you know, it's

771
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: when people are just like trying to kiss you and

772
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: that you don't want them to kiss you, and I

773
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: see any come get the fuck out of here, or

774
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: like you got coke dick now and here you are, right,

775
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: that's my.

776
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 6: Problem, Like you got to go, like your coke dick

777
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 6: is not my issue, like right, Those like more like

778
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 6: annoying occurrences where you get like, yeah, someone that's.

779
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Just like off their shit. You're like would you hurry

780
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: or they then they don't come. You're like, well, I don't,

781
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: no one told you to come in here with whiskey decks, Like,

782
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: I don't I know what's saying. You know.

783
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: I feel like when you think about like sex brothels,

784
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: I feel like they get a really bad rep And

785
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: I also think it depends on how you view things

786
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: and what everything's going on, and just your views on

787
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: sex and when it comes to sex work. But I

788
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: feel like for the most part the research I've been

789
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: reading and I feel like a lot of women are

790
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: saying like they feel safe and protected.

791
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because you could easily go do that

792
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: job and work out of a motel or a hotel

793
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: or your house or like right. I know, I've known

794
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: new of girls in the clubs that would like, you know,

795
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: sell themselves in the clubs even like you to or

796
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: meet people later, and like shit gets the shit gets sketchy,

797
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: you know, But you're in an establishment where it's protected.

798
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: There's security cameras, not in your room, but there's cameras,

799
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: and people know that if they go in there and

800
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: start acting up, they're going to get arrested and thrown out.

801
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 2: So it's like you're only dealing with people that are safe. Right,

802
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: You're safe as long as you're in that space. Now,

803
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: if you decide you want to meet someone you met

804
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: at work outside of work, now that's on you, right,

805
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: not saying that we weren't allowed to, but they can't

806
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: protect you if you're not on their property, right, Yeah,

807
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: And what made you decide to leave? I was I

808
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: was going coming back to the United States anyway, Like

809
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: my visa was up. I was coming back to the States.

810
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was expiring, so I wouldn't

811
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: have been legally allowed to work anyway. Mmmm. Would you

812
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 2: go back? Hell? Yeah, I almost went back a couple

813
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: of years ago. I called. I'm like, Yo, this is

814
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: some and so I remember I was there at two

815
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: thousand and whatever. I'm like, if I come over, but

816
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 2: I don't have to work visa, Like can I still work?

817
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: Like we would love to have you because you're amazing,

818
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: But that's illegal, right right? Like all right, fine, but

819
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: if you was a good done a visa, you would

820
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: go back. I mean if I could, Like now at

821
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: the stage of my life, I don't, I don't know,

822
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: Like I think it was that was more of like

823
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't move my life over there to go

824
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: do that. Like that was more of like in the

825
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: moment while I'm here, allowed to go down, let me

826
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: give it a go. But now no, hm hmmm. And

827
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 2: is it hard for you to be intimate in your

828
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: personal life? No? No, No, I feel like I feel

829
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 2: like that. I learned so much from that job about myself,

830
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: about my stance on like sexual empowerment. I learned a

831
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: lot about men, about their bodies, about like I mean,

832
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: cause you're sitting there, you're talking to people about their

833
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: relationships sometimes and it's like, you know, I feel like

834
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 2: all of the experiences I've had in you know, in

835
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: the club and in that environment has really built like

836
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: this confidence and like I don't even know what the

837
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: word I'm looking for is, but you know, when I'm

838
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: in my personal situations, like I know how to make

839
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: people feel good. I know what I like to feel good.

840
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: It feels good to make people feel good, right, It

841
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: feels good knowing that people think you look good and

842
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: feel good, you know what I mean. Like it's intoxicating, Yeah,

843
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: it's intoxicid So, last, but not least, what would you

844
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: say is the biggest lesson you've learned about men from

845
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: working at the sex brothel. They're simple. Mm hmm. Blast niggas,

846
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: last niggas that one. And I don't even want to

847
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: see simple as like oh my god, you're stupid, but like, no,

848
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stay stupid. Right. In many ways, it's

849
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: the biggest thing I've learned because I know you had

850
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: like a lot of like oh my god, like aha moments.

851
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: I think I learned more about myself too. But I

852
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: would say, like for men, yeah, they're they're simple. It

853
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: like they need certain things. A lot of them view

854
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: sex in a way that they don't live. Like a

855
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: lot of them, you know, might be in a relationship.

856
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a lot, but it might

857
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: be in like a monogamous relationship. But like to them,

858
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: like sex is like that okay, Like it's not just

859
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: for one person. Like I've had those conversations where people

860
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: are like, yeah, like I don't know, I'm married, I

861
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: love my wife, Like it's just sex. Like a lot

862
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: of people have that view, which I did not really

863
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: think that way, think think that men were thinking that way.

864
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: M m. Maybe it was the cultures I was dealing

865
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: with too, and like just being in a different country,

866
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: but you know you had a lot of people that

867
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: were not you know, single, right, Well, does that make

868
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: you look at men differently? M m, not really because

869
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: I I feel like not everything is like black and white.

870
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: Every nothing is or isn't. It's just it's gray, you know.

871
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: I can't I can't judge people by what they want

872
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: to do, what they do, you know, whether they're cheating

873
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: or just fulfilling a need or whatever. Like, I try

874
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: really hard to just be like, it is what it is. Like,

875
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: That's what I can't say if I look at you differently,

876
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: like it is what it is? Right? Okay, last and

877
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: at least again, But what's the biggest thing you learned

878
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: about yourself? Then? See the biggest thing I learned about myself. Dang,

879
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: there's something I want to say something, but I mean

880
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: this is anonymous. Yeah, say the biggest thing I learn

881
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: about myself is that I my experiences have definitely affected

882
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: me being a sex worker, whether it was dancing or

883
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: that little stint of brothel, like, it definitely changes my

884
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 2: view on like you know, relationships, gender, roles, sex like everything.

885
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: And I'm learning how to navigate that and I'm learning

886
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: how to how do I put other people in my life,

887
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, in a romantic way or it does it

888
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 2: have to be a romantic way? Like I've been really

889
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 2: learning about, like who am I as a partner or

890
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: as a you know, lover or whatever. No, you got

891
00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: to expand on it. Come on now because you know

892
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm over here, Like, come on, I'm a man eater.

893
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's what That's what comes to mind first,

894
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: But it sounds negative, so I need to change that term.

895
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: I definitely have learned how to get what I want

896
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: right with what I got right sexual form, and just

897
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: really trying to like, and this is why I'm writing

898
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: that book too, because it's like there's so much, there's

899
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: so much to unpack, like what is you know, what

900
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: is it? Like why why did I Why did I

901
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: jump into the sex life in the first place? You know,

902
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 2: But doing the work and then seeing the way it

903
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: affects the people I work with, it's like it's all good.

904
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: Right where do you think that's them from? Though? It's

905
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: funny I was thinking about that when I was just

906
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: today when I like thinking about this interview, and like

907
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: I figured you'd ask me that question, like yeah, I

908
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: don't know, but I wrote it down because that's definitely

909
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: something I want to talk to my therapist. Yeah, a

910
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: spiritual ular. I don't think it's I feel like it

911
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: doesn't come from a most people would think, you know,

912
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: strippers and sex orders, they have like a void that

913
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: they're trying to fill so that they go into these

914
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: this line of work and they're trying to get something.

915
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: They got daddy issues or like whatever it's like, or

916
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: they need to feel loved or like, I don't even

917
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it's any of that, you know. I

918
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: think it just stems from like knowing, like having that

919
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: like sexual power, knowing where women, you know, as women

920
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: were always put down and we're you know, told we

921
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: can't do something, and you know men get to do

922
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: everything and to be able to just like be in control, yeah,

923
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: be in control and like so many different ways, you know,

924
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: in the bed, outside of the bed and the club.

925
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: It's just like it feels good, right, you know. Like,

926
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it comes from lacking love or lacking

927
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, something, or like running away from something like

928
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: I think it's literally just like I'm the fucking shit,

929
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: but you know I'm thinking of you too, because you know,

930
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 2: I go i'vein't gonna therapy on and off like over

931
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: six years. I love my therapist. Yeah, and you know

932
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: a lot of things that we like to do. It

933
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: does stem from somewhere we just don't know until we

934
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: like really like, but there's the reason why you want

935
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: to be in control and you like how it makes

936
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: you feel, and like, you know, it's easy. You ain't

937
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: got to deal with people. You just get what you

938
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: want to keep it moving. Then it comes to fine

939
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: line where it's like is it healthy though? Yeah? And

940
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,479
Speaker 2: see that's where I always make sure. You know, as

941
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: I go through life and do certain things, I do

942
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: stop and I reflect a lot. You know this going

943
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: you know, is this gonna mess me up? Like is

944
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: this unhealthy? Like how will this affect me? Later? My

945
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: first night at the brothel, I literally went home and

946
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: I wrote about it, and I was just like, you know,

947
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: we'll come back to this and see how I feel.

948
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: And like going through my journal and reading like you

949
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: know where I was at those times, like it seemed

950
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: pretty Yeah, I seemed pretty healthy and like in control.

951
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you think you're in control, but you're

952
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: actually out of control, right doing the most and shit

953
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: like there be times like am I doing the most?

954
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: I don't think no, I think we're good. Right. Wait,

955
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm just curious. How did your siblings? Your siblings know

956
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: about this, right mm hmmm. I told them like years later,

957
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: like after they're like okay, Like my sister, one of

958
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: my sisters was like, oh yeah, I mean I kind

959
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: of figure like I didn't doubt it. I wasn't like

960
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: assuming like yeah, and they're just like yeah, why not,

961
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: Like if that's if it's not illegal and you feel

962
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: good about it as long as you're safe. Yeah, And

963
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: it's like for me, like, I don't know if I could,

964
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: that could be my career. Like I met women who

965
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: have been doing it for like ten years, so I

966
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: don't know if I can. That's a lot of nig

967
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 2: that's a lot. You take breaks. You make good money,

968
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: and you take breaks too that. I mean, that's what

969
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: I do with dancing. I would make good money and

970
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: then I take like six months off and write other

971
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: projects and other jobs. But yeah, the siblings were like,

972
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: you know, more power to you. They ain't gonna lie.

973
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: I interviewed a lot of sex workers man, and the money,

974
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, amazing. Yeah, it's not bad. You know.

975
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: I mean you do have your your seasons where it's

976
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: not as lucrative, but that's any other sales job, I guess,

977
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 2: or service job. So but I appreciate you coming on

978
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: the show. Is share your story. I mean, I know

979
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: this is gonna do numbers because I don't know too

980
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: many people that's interviewing women of color. Yeah money, this

981
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: is true too. I just want you know, it's important.

982
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: Like I said before, it's important to have these conversations

983
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: and like just put things out there because people have questions,

984
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: people make assumptions about everything, about all the topics that

985
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 2: you've brought on, and just to you know, clear the

986
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: air for anything or just say like, hey, here's my experience,

987
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: Like whatever you saw on TV or whatever Netflix show

988
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: you were watching might not depict right. Wait, do you

989
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: think that one day sex brothels will be more legal

990
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: and more states? I hope. So, I mean, listen, phg,

991
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: don't work out, y'all. You need a madam. We're about

992
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: to open a brothel. Listens. So funny, I do want

993
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: to interview a man on.

994
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, it's gonna happen though, because I feel like

995
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm getting closer and closer to certain people and my

996
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: my friends there are sex workers.

997
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: They hold you down. So I'm like, come on, y'all, Okay,

998
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. See, I don't know any any like

999
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: uh you know brothels in the US, yeah, overseas, but

1000
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: they all cheer, I'm sure. But see, I feel like

1001
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: a lot of them might be on some illegal ship.

1002
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: But this is anonymous, so it's fine. Yeah, and then

1003
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: I probably have to alter their voice for protection reasons.

1004
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh you can do that. Yeah, I can figure it out.

1005
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: You're trying to messbody, I know, right, you know, taken

1006
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: down right, But yeah, I appreciate you, and I'm definitely

1007
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: when you are ready to share your book, I hope

1008
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: I'm one of the first people to read. Oh yeah,

1009
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: definitely coming back on the show. I'm trying to get

1010
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: it done. I think next year it'll be it'll be

1011
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: out there.

1012
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: So yes, yes, But if y'all have any questions comments

1013
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: of the service, you want to say, hey girl, hey,

1014
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: please email me at hello at the psgpodcast dot com.

1015
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: And until next time, everyone later, bye. Practice safe sex. Yes,

1016
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: don't let these niggas, none of y'all. No, we ain't

1017
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: doing that. Less it's the right one. Now, I'm just

1018
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: playing safe sex, y'all.

1019
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,200
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