WEBVTT - Holding Back for Dramatic Effect

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with on our radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Almost Famous.

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<v Speaker 3>We're here today breaking down every headline that we know

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<v Speaker 3>of in Bachelor Nation. We've done some deep diving this

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<v Speaker 3>week to find out what is exactly happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley's with us today.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously the big news right now, Ashley, as we're starting

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<v Speaker 3>to see teasers, we got some cast members announced for

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<v Speaker 3>this upcoming season of Paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be the tenth season. Ashley. Your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>after seeing the cast.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of the thoughts that I have every year.

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<v Speaker 4>The guys still have yes every year?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you always have this? Oh, yes you do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the guys are going to have a great selection

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<v Speaker 4>of ladies to pick from, and the.

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<v Speaker 5>Girls guys that are on par with what you would

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<v Speaker 5>see if you open the door of a new bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think anybody has ever done disagreed with you

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<v Speaker 3>on that. Okay, I really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, why do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's let's talk about that for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, coming off of each show, we felt that

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<v Speaker 3>way about gen season, so I'm and I think most

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<v Speaker 3>fans did so. I am shocked to see so many

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<v Speaker 3>contestants from Gen season show up to Paradise. I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like they would be kind of for lack of a

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<v Speaker 3>better child, Yeah, exiled, Like, hey, yeah, you're you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going We're not going to be highlighting you any longer.

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<v Speaker 3>You're obviously not bringing in the viewership.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The person that won from your season obviously, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't stand out. But yet we see so many of

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<v Speaker 3>her contestants.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was weird. So all we have is the

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<v Speaker 4>first first sand So these are the people that are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be like in the beginning of episode one.

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<v Speaker 4>It may not even be like all of episode one.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have well we did a whole episode, but

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't. But Trista Fielden for us. Very sweet, Thank you, Trista.

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<v Speaker 4>Go back and listen to that episode. She went through

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<v Speaker 4>them all but quickly. Alex, who we all liked from

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<v Speaker 4>Grand season, Bailey also memorable from Grand season. Brian from

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<v Speaker 4>Gen season. Don't remember him. I'm just gonna do, like

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<v Speaker 4>off the top of my head, like do I remember them?

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<v Speaker 5>Do I not remember them? Do I have to think hard? Dale?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, Dale is gonna be the most memorable of

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<v Speaker 4>everyone because he was the one who left with Claire.

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<v Speaker 4>He's only thirty six now. He was very young during

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<v Speaker 4>Claire season. Hickem hilarious, great facial expressions from Gen season.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeremy from gen Zeason, remember him too? He was fourth,

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<v Speaker 4>he was he made it to hometowns. Just from Joey season.

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<v Speaker 4>I do remember her. She has brown hair right now,

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<v Speaker 4>so you may not remember her at first glance. Jonathan

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<v Speaker 4>also quite memorable from jen season justin glaze. All of

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<v Speaker 4>Justina from Katie's season also had such a public relationship

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<v Speaker 4>with Susie. We we know, we can say we know

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<v Speaker 4>that Susie is coming, but she's definitely gonna be one

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<v Speaker 4>of those people that come on to the Sand a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit later for drama effect. Of course, because they

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<v Speaker 4>hold back a lot of people for drama effect, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't get all the A listers in the first Sand group.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we have Kat who got engaged to John Henry

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<v Speaker 4>last season of Paradise. We do love Kat for a

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<v Speaker 4>dramatic moment. Kyle from Katie season, don't remember him at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Lexi gorgeous girl from Joey's season. She was the one

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<v Speaker 4>who talked about her struggle to maybe not be able

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<v Speaker 4>to have kids?

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<v Speaker 5>Was it PCs?

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<v Speaker 4>I forget what she has, but she has a bad

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<v Speaker 4>and Jimmy Trio's as bad. I remember that Ricky from

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<v Speaker 4>Jen season. I do remember his face, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>remember his storyline with him Sam. I remember he was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a where we weren't sure if he was

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<v Speaker 4>a dick, but he sure had his dickish moment during

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<v Speaker 4>Gen season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but kind of still a question if he was

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<v Speaker 3>or not because it was really against Devin.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh he was against holy crap.

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't really know. Yeah, we don't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we'll wait for Paradise.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Spencer Gen season, Yes, I think he was like

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<v Speaker 4>fifth or something. Remember his face. I know that a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of girls asked for him to be there in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 4>Zoe from Grand season, remember her? She was second runner up,

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<v Speaker 4>which sounds like pageants speak, But you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess there's really a few don't remember them,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are definitely a few randoms and there's a

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<v Speaker 4>few a lesteners. I would say that Jonathan Dale and

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<v Speaker 4>Justin are probably your A list. Maybe Kat be sorry

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<v Speaker 4>to qualify people by listeners, but you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I do know you mean, I I'm

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<v Speaker 3>surprised to see the casting not bring out people more

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<v Speaker 3>like justin Glade.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of them out there. I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>they could have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I loaded the beach up with some guys and

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<v Speaker 3>girls from the past that people were more connected to.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially I mean, I know you said that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get a lot of people on first beach.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was important.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very important for Paradise to start out

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<v Speaker 3>really hot right now with that first episode where people

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<v Speaker 3>are engaged, intrigued and watching people they.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, especially Ashley.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's my twist as we kind of go on

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<v Speaker 3>to the second part of this, I'm surprised they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>bring out people from the past Bachelor and Bachelorette because

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like Paradise, Jesse Palmer, Wells, Hannah Brown are

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<v Speaker 3>all really kind of teasing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Golden's being there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know you asked Hannah if there was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be any flirtation between the Bachelor Bachelorettes and the Goldens.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt like that would be more likely if they

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<v Speaker 3>would have brought out people from the past who are

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<v Speaker 3>maybe closer to forty Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, can you think of any more on the top

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<v Speaker 5>of your head? I have one. Wow, the time my

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<v Speaker 5>head came quick J. P. Rosenbaum. He would have been

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<v Speaker 5>he would have been big.

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been an older ish generation where people

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<v Speaker 4>would be like excited to see him date Ashley post divorce,

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<v Speaker 4>first Bachelor divorce and the divorce ends up on Paradise

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<v Speaker 4>and in between the age of the Goldens and the

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<v Speaker 4>young'ins see.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's the guy even Desire who left Desire

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<v Speaker 3>you know during her season Brooks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I love Brooks. I think Brooks my being in

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<v Speaker 5>a relationship in that case.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not keeping track of all these people, but there

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<v Speaker 3>are some people you could think of that have maybe

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<v Speaker 3>been on Paradise in the last few years that they

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<v Speaker 3>could have brought back that would have been really fun

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<v Speaker 3>to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But they didn't. So Ashley.

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<v Speaker 3>The next headline is kind of is still teasing this

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<v Speaker 3>idea that the Goldens and the Bachelor and Bachelorettes are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be mingling. When you asked Hannah a little

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<v Speaker 3>teaser into that episode you did with her about flirting

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<v Speaker 3>between the two parties.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you say?

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<v Speaker 5>She did her big Hannah Brown smile.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did you pick up on?

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<v Speaker 5>To me? My interpretation was that there's flirting but no relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so yeah, Do you think the show actually wanted relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is this just for conversation's sake?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely think they wanted the conversation out there. I

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<v Speaker 4>think there was a reason that last week there were

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<v Speaker 4>headlines about Jesse wanting it to happen, and then there

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<v Speaker 4>was some reaction from past cast that was like, sir, no,

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<v Speaker 4>that would not be in good taste.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the big news this week and a massive congratulations

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<v Speaker 3>to the two of them. They are sweet kind We've

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<v Speaker 3>been around them multiple times during almost famous events. They're very,

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<v Speaker 3>very genuine people. Zach Shallcross and Katie Bigger are now married.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a Texas wedding. It was not a super

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<v Speaker 3>like publicized event. There was not a lot of lead

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<v Speaker 3>up to this. It came as a shock to many,

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<v Speaker 3>but Ashley, they are now married and we cannot be happier.

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<v Speaker 4>So happy love this And to everybody who said that

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<v Speaker 4>Zach was a lame bachelor choice, well look it was

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<v Speaker 4>meant to be.

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<v Speaker 5>He found his wife through it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that they're gonna I think we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to see them together for a very long time. I

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<v Speaker 4>think yes. I think so too. I love yes forever.

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<v Speaker 4>We get married for forever, and we're really happy for them.

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<v Speaker 4>They actually had only nine people present at their wedding.

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<v Speaker 4>They did allude to us when they talked to us

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<v Speaker 4>a few months ago that it would be kind of

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<v Speaker 4>an elopement. They did a cute little like wedding chapel celebration.

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<v Speaker 4>They did it in front of the nine people at

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<v Speaker 4>like this gorgeous little chapel. You can see the whole

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<v Speaker 4>nine minute video via Bachelor Happy Hours or Bachelor Nation

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<v Speaker 4>on Instagram. Everything was exclusive to Bachelor, so they kind

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<v Speaker 4>of Bachelor definitely was like, Okay, we're gonna make this

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<v Speaker 4>tiny and private, but we're kinda kind of bring back

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<v Speaker 4>the we got married on air thing because every you

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<v Speaker 4>can see like everything as if this was a mini

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<v Speaker 4>televised event for them.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very cute.

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<v Speaker 4>They had this idea that they were going to do

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<v Speaker 4>a bigger wedding and they came across this venue that

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<v Speaker 4>they really liked, but they didn't end up signing the contract,

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<v Speaker 4>and instead they decided to do a photo shoot at

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<v Speaker 4>that venue before the after the intimate little chapel ceremony

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<v Speaker 4>that you'll see it is quite perfect, and it is

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<v Speaker 4>perfectly them. It's very tasteful and intimate, and they've never

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<v Speaker 4>been like big public people, and I think this was

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<v Speaker 4>just very much their style.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like their style. It feels so healthy. Their

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<v Speaker 3>relationship has been healthy since the beginning. I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked to so many contestants who are still friends with Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously they get together still on these girls' trips, and

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<v Speaker 3>they all talk about, you know, how funny it is

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<v Speaker 3>to be around Zach, but also how perfect Katie and

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<v Speaker 3>Zach are together. We would attest that this this actually

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<v Speaker 3>feels like it goes. I mean, we obviously talk about

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<v Speaker 3>them not winning the spotlight at least Zach definitely kind

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<v Speaker 3>of staying away from it and not really buying into

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<v Speaker 3>the batchel role, which is fine. That says a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about him as a person that he just didn't like

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<v Speaker 3>love the attention, and it almost feels like, oh, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the recipe for making a lot of these relationships work

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<v Speaker 3>where you go away from the spotlight, you don't focus

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<v Speaker 3>on the attention, and you focus on your relationship, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you know, we've seen that with a few now

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<v Speaker 3>work out.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie and Zach are kind of definitely went for the

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<v Speaker 4>right reasons. People, they truly had no intention on like

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<v Speaker 4>doing anything with fame after the fact, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't, And it's great and we got to celebrate that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something very respectful and something very much appreciated because

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say that I went down that path myself,

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<v Speaker 3>but I see how their relationship became the priority choice

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<v Speaker 3>in their life and what that did for them as

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<v Speaker 3>a couple, and so congratulations to them. Into non marriage news,

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<v Speaker 3>Dancing with the Stars, Sasha Farber and Gentrans split after

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<v Speaker 3>nearly a year of dating.

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<v Speaker 5>A year is a little exaggerated.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that she broke up with even what's his name,

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<v Speaker 4>and le know what, honestly, I don't even care that

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<v Speaker 4>I just say what's his name because he doesn't need to. No.

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<v Speaker 4>That happened in October, So like if she and Sasha

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<v Speaker 4>became a thing in November during Dancing with the Stars,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been more about half a year.

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<v Speaker 5>But thanks for the drama. Yeah, so they are going

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<v Speaker 5>to remain very good friends. They never actually confirmed confirm

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<v Speaker 5>their romance.

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<v Speaker 4>They just teased a lot of chemistry and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of flirtation on their social media. It's probably the best

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<v Speaker 4>that they never came out officially, put a lot less

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<v Speaker 4>pressure on it. It was more fun and light hearted,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was coming out of a marriage and she

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<v Speaker 4>was coming out of a very public breakup.

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<v Speaker 3>In two news, I was watching the Instagram stories today

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<v Speaker 3>of people sharing their support with Vanessa Grimaldi. You'll remember

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<v Speaker 3>her from Nick's season of The Bachelor. The headline is

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<v Speaker 3>this Bachelor love. Vanessa Grimaldi shares she experienced a second

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<v Speaker 3>miscarrier in a year. She's very emotional in her stories,

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<v Speaker 3>as you would expect, and very thankful for the support

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<v Speaker 3>she's been given.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're just so so sorry and so sad to Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 4>She has had her, as Ben said, her second miscarriage

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<v Speaker 4>this year, but the other one she was private about

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<v Speaker 4>for three months, and she said that right now, being

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<v Speaker 4>that she's like kind of doing a play by play

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<v Speaker 4>of her feelings in lifetime on Instagram, so that she's

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<v Speaker 4>had a whole different support system through all her following

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<v Speaker 4>and so many women who have gone through this situation before.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one in four pregnancies, not even one for women,

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<v Speaker 4>one for pregnancies and in miscarriage, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just feels like a stat we should look into a little.

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<v Speaker 5>Bit, such a crazy stat. I wonder if it's always

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<v Speaker 5>been like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so so well.

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<v Speaker 4>Now people are so public about it just feels like

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<v Speaker 4>it's more often, you know, because it used to be

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<v Speaker 4>such a quiet, silent thing, and you were supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>expect to just deal with your grief. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that a lot of women are so grateful that right

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<v Speaker 4>now it's being talked about. So she has Winston, who

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<v Speaker 4>her two year old, and she's just like, I find

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<v Speaker 4>so much comfort in him.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so grateful for him.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I it makes me even more grateful for him. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>when going through this loss, said that her heart aches

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<v Speaker 4>for the baby that she'll never get to meet, thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about him as a newborn all the first like the

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<v Speaker 4>sleepy snuggles, the little milestones, and she was imagining going

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<v Speaker 4>through those moments again.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is the second.

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<v Speaker 4>Time she found out about a miscarriage through an ultrasound.

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<v Speaker 4>She said that late adds an extra layer of grief

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<v Speaker 4>when that's heavier and more complicated, harder to put into wards.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, we're thinking about Vanessa, and I think you said

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<v Speaker 2>it best. It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels very healthy that now somebody can speak about

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<v Speaker 3>this publicly and feel less alone as they work through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Next headline is Carlie Waddell reveals she's starting a new

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<v Speaker 3>chapter with her family.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>So Carly moved into the house that she's currently in

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<v Speaker 4>or just moving out of when she was going through

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<v Speaker 4>the divorce with Evan. It's already like four years and

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<v Speaker 4>for five yeah, for four and a half years, and

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<v Speaker 4>now she's moving in with her fiance.

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<v Speaker 5>They're so cute together. His name is Todd.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys got to follow her on Instagram to see this.

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<v Speaker 4>They are moving to Lebanon, Tennessee. Ben, how far out

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<v Speaker 4>is that from Nashville.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. I don't think very far.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never heard of Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 2>The geography enough, Yeah, I don't know the geography.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So if they are all going to live together,

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<v Speaker 4>she says she gets to live their three best friends

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<v Speaker 4>now instead of two, and then there's could be two

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<v Speaker 4>dogs and the cat. She's saying goodbye to the house

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<v Speaker 4>that made her a super moom. We know where she's

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<v Speaker 4>so low parented or Charlie learned to walk, and we

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<v Speaker 4>spent lots of Christmases and Easters and Halloween where we

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<v Speaker 4>played dress up, fought tornadoes and loved really hard. We're

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<v Speaker 4>really happy for Carly, Like I love seeing her with

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<v Speaker 4>Todd on Instagram because like you can just the happiness

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<v Speaker 4>is just like just it's so bright, so shining, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's been like that for quite some time now. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not like when Carly has her like month of happiness

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<v Speaker 4>in Bachelor Paradise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great. It's really exciting to see. Congratulations to

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<v Speaker 3>her on this next new chapter. Well, that's been all

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<v Speaker 3>the headlines we have for you today. We're gonna also

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<v Speaker 3>continue to dive in to any Bachelor in Paradise news

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<v Speaker 3>coming your way. We will not be spoiling you, but

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<v Speaker 3>we will be revealing what has been then revealed publicly

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe you just missed in your headlines. But until

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<v Speaker 3>next time, I've been Ben.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been Ashley. Bye, guys, love you.

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